(CNN) - If the Democrats reach their goal of capturing 60 seats in the Senate, North Carolina may be a major reason why.
Freshman Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole is trailing her Democratic opponent, Kay Hagan, by nine points, 53 percent to 44 percent, a new CNN/Time/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Friday suggests. Hagan had a smaller lead in other recent polls in North Carolina.
An already bitter contest turned uglier this week, when an ad by Dole's campaign suggested Hagan was "godless." The Dole campaign says it based its charge on Hagan's attendance at a fundraiser in the home of an advisor to the Godless Americans' political action committee, a group that promotes rights for atheists.
Hagan, a state senator from Greensboro, returned fire, saying she was "absolutely appalled" by the ad, calling it "politics of the worst kind." She also filed a lawsuit to prevent the ad from running.
The poll in North Carolina was conducted before Dole's campaign commercial began airing.
Other factors - such as Dole's age - may favor the challenger, CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said.
"Dole's age has been an undercurent in this race, and our poll shows that she is winning among older voters by six points," he said. "But Hagan has a 13-point edge among voters under the age of 50, and that seems to be one major reason why Dole appears to be in trouble."
Dole is 72.
The Democrats' goal is to capture 60 seats in the Senate. That's the number of votes needed to break a filibuster, a move used in the Senate by the minority party to stall and defeat legislation.
The Democrats currently control 49 seats in the Senate. The chamber's two independents, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, are allied with the Democrats, giving the party a narrow 51-to-49 advantage and control of the Senate.
Another state the Democrats are targeting is Colorado, where the incumbent Republican Senator, Wayne Allard, is retiring.
The new poll suggests that the Democratic candidate, Mark Udall, holds a 10-point lead, 53 percent to 43 percent, over his Republican rival, Bob Schaffer.
Virginia is another state where the incumbent Republican Senator, John Warner, is retiring. Two former governors, Democrat Mark Warner (no relation to John) and Republican James Gilmore, are fighting for the seat. But the new poll suggests the this race is far from even. The survey indicates Warner holds a 28-point lead, 63 percent to 35 percent, over Gilmore.
Georgia is another state, like North Carolina, where the incumbent freshman Republican Senator, Saxby Chambliss, is fighting for his political life.
But the poll suggests he's faring much better than Elizabeth Dole. Chambliss holds a 9-point lead in the survey, 53 percent to 44 percent, over Jim Martin, his Democratic opponent.
The CNN/Time/Opinion Research Corporation surveys were conducted October 23-28, with 667 likely voters in North Carolina, 774 likely voters in Colorado, 721 likely voters in Virginia, and 690 likely voters in Georgia questioned by telephone.
The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points in Colorado, Georgia and Virginia and plus or minus 4 percentage points in North Carolina.
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Search you tube for DEAR MR. OBAMA – best video and most watched video of this election!!! Very inspiring...too bad Obama and liberals have no respect for this young man.
What's good for the republicans to do is good for the democrats. They insist on trying to label Obama...i guess they don't like it when someone else uses their tactics...tuche`
Serves her right. Since when is USA a country only for god loving christians?
Lord help us if we elect ourselves team Obama-Reid-Pelosi with no filbuster protection!!!
This ad was terrible. Do the republicans forget what country we live in??! She is not an athiest but it's ok if she was! They remember the second amendment but somehow freedom of religion eludes them! They are acting like they get to define who is a "real" american. The republican party is the party of lies, fear tactics, and ignorance.
I HAD SOME RESPECT FOR THE DOLES.
I WAS SURPRISED SHE TURNED OUT TO
TO BE JUST ANOTHER REPUBLICAN SKANK.
We really do need the majority to be able to get past republican blocks to important legislation.
That's why even with a democrat majority, we haven't been able to do much – the republicans block and we can't override Bush vetos.
Come on, America. We really need a change. The republicans have showed you how well they can manage this country (i.e. they can't), so please give the democrats a chance.
Could it possibly be worse than Bush's doubling of the debt, a $1.1 to $1.5 trillion deficit this year, being mired in two wars, at the mercy of countries like China to fund our literally crazy spending?
Give us a chance and see what we can do.
WHAT A HORRID OLD CREEP !!!!!!
Dole is devisive & poisionous. The sooner she's gone the better off that state (and the rest of us) will be.
Official definition of terrorist from Merriam Webster:
ter•ror•ism Pronunciation: \ter-ər-i-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
ter•ror•
1: a state of intense fear
2 a: one that inspires fear : scourge b: a frightening aspect c: a cause of anxiety : worry d: an appalling person or thing ; especially : brat
3: reign of terror
4: violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands
By definition a terrorist is anyone who incites fear and terror through lies, false accusations, and other coercion techniques that are not true. So therefore, by official definition Sarah Palin and many of the McCain/Palin supporters are TERRORISTS who keep creating lies and false accusations for the purpose of scaring people not to vote for Obama. You people must be proud.
I'd vote for Hagan purely based on Dole's absurd "Godless" ad
Maybe, just maybe, after this rout of the reptiles from both Houses of Congress, then and only then will the Reptilian party realize America is tired of this type of campaigning.
But, I have to admit, st the risk of being hypocritical, that I honestly hope they don't, I want them out of power for decades.
So, is Dole suggesting that it's not her job as a US Senator to represent "godless" citizens in North Carolina?
Tear down the bridges to nowhere and build bridges that bring us together – DEMOCRATIC TICKET ALL THE WAY.
She should of kept her trap shut. 9 points down and counting.
All that money and Obama is still neck and neck. Other Democrats on the ballot are sailing through compared to him.
Hillary Clinton would be winning this walking away right now.
But the DNC and Howard Dean prefer Mr. O. So they disallowed the primary votes of two states – waited until after they "crowned" our Hero, then gave the states back their votes in time for the coronation.
Instead we have a nail biter. Americans deserve a Democratic administration. Party leaders and Obama do not.
I refuse to reward this political home invasion. A life long Democrat, I can't bring myself to vote for McCain even now.
So, Ralph Nader it is. At least he's an honorable human being.
PS: Elizabeth Dole looks so lifelike in that picture!
DOLE WILL END HER CAREER IN DISGRACE !!!
Boy!! I guess that "Godless" ad isn't working too well after all, huh?
Chris from Hendersonville, NC
The days are over for so called "Christian Republicans" who have been lying and cheating and using their faith to judge and tell others that they are evil, terrorist and what not. Yes, that includes you too..McCain.
How can a real Christian, tell others that they are Godless or evil? Hypocrites and liars and it is funny that Christian really love that.
This serves Dole right. The lies and smears coming from the Republicans just intensify as they get more desperate, and it is a catch 22, because that desperation then turns more people off. It is time to show that those tactics can't change the fact that Enough is Enough.
Right on the heels of this story comes the one of Mike Ditka campaigning with Sarah Palin. He said in Pennsylvania that... "I'm not here because I'm a Republican, which I am, and I'm not here because I'm a conservative, which I am. I'm here because I am an American.” Well, Barack Obama is here because he is an American, too. So what is your point, Ditka, and what are you trying to imply????
I hope Dole loses even if only to make the point that nasty attack ads like the one she's currently running do not work. NC deserves better. Why not talk about the issues?
Out with the OLD and in with the NEW! Go Democrats Go!
we need the house and senate so obama can go to work for america
Dole is a virus. Her comments this past week confirms this statement. Why people put up with this type of behavior is beyond me.
For any voters who cannot decide who to vote for, the Republicans like to make up lies about Obama, but they don’t want to tell the truth about Palin and McCain. Take a look at these clips, this is the truth and it is fact, straight from the candidate’s mouths:
John McCain should drop out of the presidential race for these comments. He actually states that he does not agree with what the American people have to say:
Palin, well this short clip speaks for itself:
McCain on issues
For the life of me, I cannot figure out why these Republican candidates like Dole think they can make these appalling accusations that are completely untrue, and not have a negative reaction from the voters. We are completely tired of negative campaigns. We are appalled by the lying and distortions. We are going to throw the bums out. Mrs. Dole, when you're sitting at home, after you've lost, why not drop a call to Karl Rove, and thank him for teaching you how to be a slime ball. Congratulate him on his effective and thoughtful tactics. You're old school, Dole, and school is about to be let out. Buh bye now....
Cnn another day this is a Republican all republican sdite even repeats of republivans what is going on is tyhe woprd biased ?
Libby Dole should be ashamed of herself for the misleading ad she ran acussing dems of being "god less" and then using someone who sounds like her opponent at the end.
It is time that the repubs be thrown out...all they know how to do is sling mud, lie and line thier own pockets....throw the bums out.
As a Christian (Catholic actually), I am horrified whenever someone tries to use religion as a club for political gain. My personal belief is that Christ would never support this kind of behavior, but even setting that aside, the very nature of Dole's ad puts human being against human being.
So what if Hagan was an atheist? I may be a faithful person, but faith is personal, and in no way impacts a person's ability to do good works as an elected public servant.
Dole should be ashamed of putting forth such an ad, and voters should be using their votes to show America that such tactics are not acceptable. You should vote based on the policies of the candidate, and whether you agree or disagree. It should never be based on fear and other negative campaign tactics.
SOME OF THESE REPUBLICANS WOULD'VE
DONE VERY WELL IN THE NAZI PARTY.
The fact that Dole was lying in her ad is reprehensible.
But the bigger question for me is- Isn't the job of our elected officials to represent ALL Americans, not just the right-wing-religious-conservatives? Is Dole saying atheists don't deserve rights? How about gays? Jews? Muslims?
The entire Republican party is traveling down a dark, scary path. Anyone who truly cares about our country should not follow them!
The Dole attack ad was based "on Hagan's attendance at a fundraiser in the home of an advisor to the Godless Americans' political action committee." What is this, Six Degrees of Smear-a-ration? What a ludicrous stretch. Let's hope Senator Dole, once a well-respected legislator, loses the race.
To the undecided voters:
If you like war, the draft, belligerent foreign policies and divisive politics, vote for McCain
If not, vote for Obama
If you are still not sure, vote for Nader.
"Godless"? What the heck? Is Dole getting out of it also?
What a shame. I liked Bob Dole, but what has happened to his wife. She has obviously gone the way of the rest of the far, right wing conservative christians of the republican party with outright lying and fear tactics.
As a moderate republican I am thoroughly disenchanted with my party and will be changing to an independent after this election. The republicans are still running their campaigns like 20 years ago. We used to be the fiscally conservative party and the democrats were the tax and spend party. This has reversed almost completely since Bush was elected. If the republicans have any hope of surviving in the 21st century, they need to change their platform.
First she ruined the Red Cross and now the country! You GOP must be so verrrrry proud.
She is the worst the country has.
Senator McCain you are no hero, you are in fact a terrorist.
Your campaign advisor & "Transition Chief" William Timmons was a Saddam Hussein lobbyist for 5 years.
You pal around with Gordon Liddy, domestic terrorist.
You are a member of "The Project for a New American Century" – a radical extremist terrorist organization.
Your VP candidate's husband Todd Palin is a domestic terrorist in the Alaskan Independence Party.
You accuse Obama of knowing Rashid Khalidi, yet you yourself have given Rashid Khalidi & the PLO $500,000.00!!! So by your logic, if Obama is a terrorist sympathizer like you claim, then you Senator McCain are a state sponsor of terrorism. You are, by your own twisted logic, a terrorist by your own admittance.
You have met with Chilean Dictator Pinochet, a terrorist.
You're coordinated effort to use FOX NEWS, the Bush Administration, your campaign, Sarah Palin, and The Justice Department to commit voter fraud, voter intimidation, & voter suppression is an act of terrorism.
John McCain you are a disgrace to your uniform, yourself, & to your country.
Send the old cow Liddy Dole out to pasture. Go Hagen Go!
Worst mistake this country needs a this time is Obama being elected.This is the time we need someone that has been tested and knows how to keep us safe. Mccain is the only canidate that can do that job. Mccain's economy deal is even better than the chicago player Obama. Our country does not need a arrogant greenhorn trying to run our country in time of war and maybe more wars.We will be attacked if Obama gets elected.We will be doomed.
Liddy has been on the dole too long. Lining her own pockets and doing nothing for NC.
I sure hope McCain loses. That will teach him for being part of Keating 5 that started all the deregulation – maybe he'll think before he makes any more propaganda tapes AGAINST the US. Maybe he will even retire and quit dividing our nation. GO AWAY McWarmonger. NO NO NO to Iran and the draft. NO NO NO – and quit donating to Kahlidi – you traitor.
Voted early for Obama/Biden – the Constitutional Guys
I am a registered republican in AZ and I am soooo disgusted and ashamed of the republican party because I have been getting robo calls the last 2 days that are viel!!!! What happened to my republican party????? After this is over the republican party better start changing or they are loosing everyone in this country with the exception of the radical right wing and skinheads and extremely wealthy!!!
God Bless Obama/Biden
Dole is just another nut job...I am so tired of religion being thrown into politics...it's hippicritical!! Dole reminds me of an older version of Palin...no brains.
Good...With Obama as President and a 60 seat Senate, we can finally get something done for the U.S.A....Instead of Bush Vetoing every bill that comes across his desk that the Dems sponser....
Mrs. Dole recent and untrue ad about Mrs. Kay Hagan has done her in. I stay in North Carolina and Mrs. Dole really stooped to an all time low when she started questioning Mrs. Hagen stand on God and Faith. She really should be ashamed of herself and apologize.My vote will be for Mrs. Hagan now.
After that last ad,she does not deserve to win !How can the republicans live whith themselves!
peg,tenn
Elizabeth Dole is a crook who needs to be sent back to Kansas to live with her husband...WE DON'T WANT HER HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA! She's proven that she is worthless to the needs of North Carolinians, and this new ad that she has put out, suggesting Kay Hagan is "godless," is DOWNRIGHT DIRTY!
Shame on Senator Dole for this ugly and immoral advertising.
We the people need to condemn this kind of politics with a resounding vote to clear the congress of people who use tactics like this.
Republican or Democrat, we cannot tolerate the politics of division and lies.
Send the message loud and clear that the days of campaigns run on fear and smear are over.
TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!
VOTE OBAMA BIDEN
Someone with common sense should realize divisive politics does not work!
I dont live in NC, but WOW that ad was extremely shocking. The rebuttal was really effective I thought. Anyways, whats with charging people if they believe in god or not, and why does that matter ? I believe in god, but If an Atheist or Agnustic is doing their job and I like their policies, I'll vote for them. Just because you dont believe in god doesnt mean you dont have peoples best interest at heart. And sense when do religiouse people have a monopoly on good government, or policy? The things people do to hold on to power
What esle do u expect from despirate people who would use or say anything including breaking the commandments of God for political gains. Thou shall not call the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Good riddance!! Another one that does not have any policies or plans only attack and smear. Hopefully one of many to lose their seats.
Among the different joys brought to you by this election, the disappearance of this divisive and hateful woman from the national scene is certainly one of the finest.
Considering the lies/slander/distortions etc. coming out of the mouths of the Republicans I would think that it is joke that they would still consider themselves 'Christians' As a Catholic, I was taught it is a SIN to LIE. Someone needs to clue in those fundamentalists in Kentucky that McCain and Palin more closely resemble the "anti-Christ" and not Senator Obama. I voted for honesty, moral integrity, intelligence, judgement ... I voted for Obama!
Dole lost my vote. I'm tired of all the nasty ads.
Dole, you are just like your husband, a loser....
Like President Obama said on Maddow....there are a small subset of Republicans....McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rove etc. who have kidnapped the Republican party....it's not that all Republicans are bad! This woman Dole is one of the McCainBushlike kidnappers......I hope America votes them ALL out of office on Nov. 4th!
More rethuglican hate. Had enough yet America? These people are not true Americans, are not patriotic, and are not trying to help the country in any way. Elizabeth Dole has joined the terrorist within.
Senator Dole sickens me! It's that simple! This is by far the worst direct attack I've seen.
Wall Street workers have given $8 million more to the Democrats than to Republicans during this election year. Sorry Liberals, you can no longer claim that Wall Street is a Republican entity. Losers
Senator Dole,
Please take Lindsey Graham with you.
Dole's latest ad attacking Hagan for accepting money from the Godless America PAC is appalling. Reminds me of the Helms' ad in the first Gantt-Helms Senate contest the weekend before that election, with the rejection letter from an employer, and the voice over about giving the job to someone less qualified, and the letter being crumpled by white hands. I'm ashamed by my elected representatives.
Good for Kay Hagan. This Christian has had enough of religion being used as a club in every election. True Christians don't have to beat you over the head with with it,
5 thumbs down for Elizabeth Dole. Campaigning her opponent as "Godless" is straight out of the sewer. Shame on you Mrs. Dole.
God bless the USA–the mcarthy hate machine will take it's bushes and go back to the indian reservation.
I hope this is the end of her too. When I see the last backside of the last Dole leaving, it will be an added bonus.
Out with the Dole and in with the new.
Lizzie Dole needs to loose just for the Godless ad. Go Kay!
Dole is a sack of vomit. That "godless" ad brings bile into the back of my throat every time I hear about it.
Uh.... "Clinton Supporter" in case you haven't noticed, Senator Clinton and President Clinton both are out campaigning for Barack Obama. If you truly were a supporter as you indicate in you name, you'd be running to the poll to vote for Obama. Think you should change your moniker to "Bigot." Thanks and have a nice day
I heard Dole commercial this morning. She actually had someone impersonate Hagan saying 'There is no god."
Disgusting.
Liddy Dole, another "Out of Touch" Republican.
Go Kay Hagan!!! If I could vote for you I would.
I cannot believe how arrogant and idiotic the Republican candidates are acting in all races. The "pro-American parts" comments and this over-the-top false innuendo on religion is despicable. It seems like the Republicans are self-exploding and are toppling each other down like a row of dominos. Thank you Mrs. Palin for getting the first domino going!!
Anyone else think McCain and Palin could be closet Democrats successfully tearing down the Republican party?!?
When did it become a crime to not believe in a deity. I think it is a shame that Hagan has to be offended about be linked to an atheist organization. It just goes to show that this country still has some very backward tendencies where to be linked to atheist is somehow supposed to be considered a dis qualifier for public office. Frankly, I am fed-up with the whole "gotta be a Xian" approach to politics. When are Xians going to just shut-up about their Jesus?
Whatever happened to the party of Dwight Eisenhower, Everett Dirksen, and yes, even Barry Goldwater? How did they let themselves get hijacked by right-wing wackjobs and evangelical nutcases? There's a good chance the GOP is going to be decimated this election. And although I'm no great friend of the Democratic Party, I'll be glad to see the Republicans disappear forever.
This is the time to give third-party candidates a voice. We need a true opposition party in this country. (A role the Democrats have shamelessly abrogated).
Vote for Ralph Nader!
These geezus freaks like Dole are what's wrong with American politics and America as a whole.
Wake up "Christian" America – The neocons are only using you for their power grab!
I used to like Bob Dole, but never warmed up to her. Just got a feeling about her, and now I know why. Faking your opponent's voice to make a patently false accusation, Libby? For that alone, your constitutents deserve better. Shame on you!
Another Repub scum bag. Is it any wonder their campaign in this country is going to the dogs.
I hope this woman loses BIG time.
Yay! Not long now until we all walk hand-in-hand to our new training wage jobs.
Let's hope that the Democrats that pull it off in all of their races, especially against those like Elizabeth Dole. It must be a Republican thing to go so negative and especially negatives that are untrue.
Elizabeth Dole is worst than John McCain.. She will say or do anything to get re-elected.
Hagan 08'
so, promoting rights for atheists makes you godless?
does promoting rights for blacks make you black?
Ahhh...I LOVE the smell of desperation in the morning- smells like VICTORY!!!
I can't wait for the day that I can vote for an openly godless candidate....
THe Democrats having a lock on the Presidency and Congress – now that should shivers down the spines of every American. Look what Pelosi & Company have done to your 401's; your bank accounts; your credit worthiness. Entitlement programs will run rampant. You will have more people on the dole; more social welfare programs that are ineffectual and it will be tax and spend and you will be picking up the tab for the next 4 to 8 years. Get rid of one deadbeat in the White House and replace him with another. Think twice before you bring the broom out and sweep away the Bushies.
out with the Republicans.....
WE WANT CHANGE
OMG Clinton Supporter would you get over it already.
Time to throw Libby Dole out!!!!
What's the problem with so many OLD Republican candidates?
Is it their AGE, their failing memory or inability to discuss openly about REAL problems affecting the majority of voters?
Why isn't Ms. Dole retiring and tending to her elderly husband?
Good. Dole's filthy, Karl Rove-like stunt of making her opponent out to be godless is disgusting. I am godless and unlike Kay Hagen I have not taught Sunday School for the past 25 years in a Presbyterian church.
Dole is clearly the godless one.
I am an atheist and an American. I thought that our country was about freedom of choice when it came to religion. I thought our country was about defending our rights to freedom? I didn't know that I was a "bad" person for choosing to believe in science and choosing to not affiliate myself with a religion.
You know, radical Muslims believe in god, or allah, as they call him, but are they considered to be "good" and I am not? That seems a bit ridiculous. I am a good, taxpaying, caring, responsible American. Please don't judge me because of my non-religious beliefs. I don't judge church-goers for theirs.
I voted for Obama and Hagan last week before I heard the ad. However, I was so offended I immediately went to Hagan's website and made a contribution.
The reality is that Dole has become completely ineffective. I watched her "ask questions" during the committee meeting for the bailout bill. She read her question. It didn't appear to me she understood what she was reading, even if it was a rather simple question.
I can't believe Clinton supporters are still sitting this out, voting for McCain, or voting for Nader. Any of those options are a vote for McCain. Do you really think McCain will better represent the ideals of the Clinton campaign? Just think Supreme Court. Forget about the issue of taxing existing health care benefits. Too much is at stake.
Matt in NC
From up here…
You are starting to look like IRAQ
The divisions – the hatred – the false accusations.
You are calling each other terrorist s, socialist! and Godless...You are burning and throw things at each other signs and effigies. STOP IT!
It may be normal for a Middle East country in turmoil
BUT we are democratic free countries. SHOW MORE DIGNITY!
This is not Republican it is Repulsive!
Why are there posts that suggest that McCain "knows how to keep us safe"? What has he done to warrant that belief? I know he was a victim and survivor of Vietnam (like my husband who saved over 20 lives before being shot) but what has he done?
What ugliness of character this election cycle hs brought out. This is about as low as we have seen, Sen. Dole, and amounts to nothing less than using religion to falsely terrorize the many Believers in North Carolina. The whole world is watching, did you realize that? This attempt at drumming up intolerance is terrorism.
Terrorism, from our own elected officials, being used on their own constituents. Shameful. Given the lack of respect you are showing for the Senate, your rival, and the people of North Carolina, let me in stead use this term: Skankful. Very fitting, so very sadly fitting.
finally coming clean, eh?
but you lose, CNN., you lose. you're less than irrelevant, LOL.
try and suppress real progressive agenda, i dare ya.
it won't make an ounce of difference. the train has left the station!
you're going down the proverbial toilet, CNN, LOL.
I am so tired of the "I'll say and do anything to get elected" mind set this year. Very sad that we, as voters, have to spend our time sifting through BS rather than evaluating each candidate and their individual, actual, real platforms. So the good news is – don't listen to ads or robocalls. Read, research and evaluate real information – it will take you more time to get to it, but you'll feel much better after.
This election has been handed to Hagan on a silver platter.
Vote Democratic!
Dole..........................uhm...........................why someone please tell me why Republicans are such LIERS? Why tell out-right bold faced LIES? Hasn't 8 years of 2 LIERS in the W.H. made most of SICK? That along with all of $$ stolen from most American's should certianly make everyone sick.
Sen. Obama by a land-slide.
To all those that make comments only about Republican's using so called "scare tactics" and lies, grow up. The Democratic party is no better. I'm not excusing Dole or any Repub, but let's not be hypocritical. Even the almighty Obama lies.
The unfortunate fact is, it is politics as usual from both parties. Neither care about the issues, neither really stand for anything anymore. Who ever wins on Tuesday, it will be a sad day for our country.
Mrs. Dole ran an ugly campaign.
You reap what you sow.
Good on Hagan for launching a lawsuit. Voters, send a message on November 4th that this type of divisive campaigning is not acceptable!
"Liddy" and Gov. Sarah Air-Head both sent packing in four days, folks. Christmas in November is a-comin'!
As a veteran and a christian, I'm outraged that Dole would bear false witness against another christian. The GOP and far right have gone so far out there with the lies, the nastiness, and trying to suppress the vote that, they are no longer following the teachings of Christ.
This made my day. .
North Carolina is lookin' blue from here!
I hope Dole gets routed and sent home packing. What a phony, cheesy smile.
Elizabeth Dole doesn't deserve to be re-elected. That religion stunt she pulled against her opponent is appalling. Time to go home to Bob!
Sad how a once powerful political party has been reduced to rubble by it's own excesses. Oh well.
Elizabeth Dole, John McCain, Sarah Palin – in no particular order have squarely put the face of the republican party to the front and core of what they have to offer.
It is amazing how someone with a straight smiling face can be so shameless to dupe, lie and stoop to the lowest level possible.
To top it all, it is shocking to see some % of voters are still flocking to their camp.
Unnoticed in the election fever, is the pitch to push more deregulations before Bush leaves office. We are indeed in perilous times. Bush wants to leave a lethal legacy for the country even after all the damage he has done and McCain will take mantle from there on.
Drs Dole seems to forget that there is a separation of Church and State, as stated in the Constitution that Congress shall not legislate with respect to any religion. If she cannot master that, how can she be a legislator? Besides, the Constitution guarantees freedoms for us, and not having a religion or not believing in a God is one of those freedoms.
Why is it that politicians feel that religion is such a big issue? I would contend that all politicians should be Atheists. That would be the best application of the principle of Church and State separation. Wouldn't it?
Elizabeth – this is what happens when you try to scare the people instead of encouraging the people. Sadly, you still seem to believe in Rovian tactics – the same tactics that are going to take John McCain down in four days, I hope you also lose.
WOW...she must really, really, really, be desperate!
Bad Lizzy Dole.
Mrs Dole seems to forget that there is a separation of Church and State, as stated in the Constitution that Congress shall not legislate with respect to any religion. If she cannot master that, how can she be a legislator? Besides, the Constitution guarantees freedoms for us, and not having a religion or not believing in a God is one of those freedoms.
It just goes to show that there is no substitute for constant vigilance. For decades, we have "benignly" neglected to stand up to ignorance, hate and prejudice if that confrontation made us uncomfortable. You know, the "don't get involved" ethic. Well, here you have a glowing example of all those years of complacency – the Republican Party has drifted (no, actually SPEEDED) to the far Right, and now has no reservations about comingling Church and State in just about every issue that we encounter. If I'm not mistaken, the Constitution clearly states that religion and politics are to remain separate ..but not according to these folks. To a great degree, we have allowed them to become judges for us all ....legislating MORALITY now, too – every time something doesn't fit into their little comfort zones.
To Clinton Supporter: Get over it! Your candidate lost for the same reasons that McOldy is losing! You are not a dem but a political ploy used by Rove, you are probably a GOP anyway and wouldn't vote for a black man.
this woman and the other nasty person, from here from MN (bachman) who is an embarrasement need to go AWAY
these are the most unamerican people of our times along with Coleman, Rove, Limbaugh, Hennety, and their little mcbush group.. cheney, palin, joe the plumber.. etc..
they are not true conservatives, and or republicans..
I live in North Carolina and 4 years ago I asked why is Elizabeth Dole a senator from NC when she really does not live here. She has never done anything for this state. As soon as there is someone decided to run who really care about the state where she is raising her family, the only thing Liddy Dole can do is try to make Kay Hagan into some ugly, evil, godless, person and the only things she said she would work on for NC are reducing taxes and doing something about the immigration problem. Well Liddy, the immigration problem did not start when you starting running for office again, it started long time ago and you had six years to do something and you did NOTHING. Move over so we can at least try someone new and see if they will do a better job. Hard, great, working Americans are losing their jobs everyday and Liddy thinks she should keep her job when she has been lousy and lazy at it.
I am ashamed of Liz Dole and I bet her husband is also.. Senator Bob Dole is a good and honest man and his wife's comments would never come out of his mouth, or be a thought in his head.. Shame on you Liz
I may be Godless, but isn't that why there's a seperation of church and state?
Jeff in Oregon-
Well said.
Elizabeth Dole will be trashed for her trash and all the trash of the Republican Party on November04. bye–bye –looser.
good point Dr Mimi....
This is what is going to happens in the united states of obama. Reporters cast away , tv stations order to turn off, web pages remove. we might have only one tv channel the obama channel.? His past actions let me believe that this country is going to be turn to a socialist system against our will.
What does one expect from a political party that has lost any sence of decency? The Republican strategy anymore is to smear, sling, and accuse. Enough is enough. Mrs. Dole needs to be retired.
KAY HAGAN FOR SEN. get rid of old face lift wearing Libby Dole!!!!!!! Send her home viagra bob.
This North Carolian cannot wait for Dole to leave-she has been ineffective and a Bush Butt-kisser. Our state is struggling and going downhill!
Her "Godless" ad is reprehensible and I am glad she didn't get my vote!!!!
Geez. Did she not notice this wasn't working for mccain? DST is giving them an extra hour to implode this weekend!
These Republicans will say anything to get a vote. How repugnant to bring Religion into the mix when apparently they have not read their Bible's lately. Read Proverbs 22:16 Nancy
WE HAVE OVERCAME!
For those conservatives fighting or fearing change, I’ve news for you; the GOP brand is in shreds thanks to ………………….fill in the balnk. Currently the GOP brand is as worthless as the once popular “tickle me Elmo”. Obama has already replaced the so called “Reagan Democrats” that we’ve talked about for the last 20+ years with a new brand that we’ll all talk about for many years to come called “Obama Republicans”.
Wow....Republicans are starting to look more and more like your everyday Bully...
Dole, you are a disgrace to Americans everywhere. Enjoy obscurity.
God help us if the democrats win the white house and more seats in the Senate. I am an Independent with moderate (and somewhat conservative) values and views and this country doesn't need to have an ultra liberal president and a democratically controlled congress. We need to have balance otherwise we will lean way too the left. America be careful what you asked for.
I am tired of the putrid hate coming out of bloggers like "SCOTT L" . You haven't said one thing true about Obama or McOldy!
Don't count Dole out. The dull and the ignorant will believe anythhing, even the nasty and unchristian slop that Dole puts out. As long as you call yourself a christian, people will believe anything you say.
Bulldog,
THANK YOU!
Terrorists are alive and well in this country. Their name is REPUBLICAN.
And from these lovely "Christian" Republicans we hear them making claims they know everyones "God" status.
You know we got real tired of this. Go a head and call me "Godless", we know who we are and you just told us what you are.
An interview on MSNBC just spoke the truth about the polls. They are not truthful. The phoce calls go to cell phones also and most phone calls go unanswered. The Iowa university professor said that most polls are not correct, but the media isnt telling everyone what the truth is. So this is another indication that the media is BIAS>>>>>>>>>>>>
As a former Republican, I find it regrettable that the icon of the party is so intellectually tired (or lazy) that she resorts to mindless attack ads. The seat was hers if she had done what she was hired and paid well to do: show up sometimes. Realizing that there is a Western NC and considering having an office there might have changed things.
This trend in the party is widespread. To think that one can substitute a sound bite, or a clever one-liner for preparation and hard work will not last long.
It is important for all Americans to work, think, and prepare, just like a real plumber, not a silly character who cannot show up and then becomes indignant. It is vital that the Republicans return to the party of Eisenhower and Ford and forget this silly courtship with anti-intellectualism.
Change is coming!
Repulsive
Interesting how Dole's ad will actually end up hurting only herself. Oops!!
Congress seems to be full of very selfish and corrupt people.
What if it were true that Senator Dole's opponent didn't believe in Jesus. Jesus would not believe in Ms. Dole's Jesus.
Senator Dole should be booted out.
Senator McCain you are no hero, you are in fact a terrorist.
Your campaign advisor & "Transition Chief" William Timmons was a Saddam Hussein lobbyist for 5 years.
You pal around with Gordon Liddy, domestic terrorist.
You are a member of "The Project for a New American Century" – a radical extremist terrorist organization.
Your VP candidate's husband Todd Palin is a domestic terrorist in the Alaskan Independence Party.
You accuse Obama of knowing Rashid Khalidi, yet you yourself have given Rashid Khalidi & the PLO $500,000.00!!! So by your logic, if Obama is a terrorist sympathizer like you claim, then you Senator McCain are a state sponsor of terrorism. You are, by your own twisted logic, a terrorist by your own admittance.
You have met with Chilean Dictator Pinochet, a terrorist.
You're coordinated effort to use FOX NEWS, the Bush Administration, your campaign, Sarah Palin, and The Justice Department to commit voter fraud, voter intimidation, & voter suppression is an act of terrorism.
John McCain you are a disgrace to your uniform, yourself, & to your country.
Eric October 31st, 2008 1:14 pm ET
"When did it become a crime to not believe in a deity. I think it is a shame that Hagan has to be offended about be linked to an atheist organization. It just goes to show that this country still has some very backward tendencies where to be linked to atheist is somehow supposed to be considered a dis qualifier for public office. Frankly, I am fed-up with the whole "gotta be a Xian" approach to politics. When are Xians going to just shut-up about their Jesus?"
I agree wholeheartedly with Eric. As an atheist, I'm extremely offended by Elizabeth Dole's implication that to be seen with an atheist is akin to being a terrorist or something.... but at the same time, Kay Hagan's response showed she was angry for the wrong reasons.. angry for being called Godless, instead of angry that Dole was bringing it up as a negative reason at all.
People are saying it's historic for a black man to be president, but will we EVER have an atheist president? Unfortunately I don't think so.. funny how there's religious freedom, supposedly, but no freedom for the non-religious.
My Friend's = Send the skanky old cow to pasture with her "gimpy armed" hubby.They can both go back to work on the Dole "Chiquita's Banana" farm, don't they own it Cons?
As a Carolinian, I honestly can't think of anything Dole has done for this state since she became a senator. This ad played on my tv, in my living room, in front of my kids. DISGUSTING!!! I will be so happy when Dole goes down in flames. The era of divisive politics has come to an end. I used to be a McCain fan, I voted for Dole in the last election. What happened to the once honorable McCain we all knew and loved? What happened to Dole, the proud wife of Bob Dole? This is a sad year in American history. Luckily we will have an inauguration and a fresh government to kick off the new year with a fresh start. This election reminds me of flushing the toilet. hit the lever, all the junk goes down the drain, and the fresh water comes in.
Dole deserves to lose after that nasty ad she ran on TV calling her opponent Godless. I'm sick of the Republicans.
Republicans have nothing to offer but mean, nasty, deceitful and devisive politics. I'm surprised Elizabeth Dole stooped to such a low level and succumbed to the Rovian strategy. The party deserves the tidal wave of defeat that will roll in on Tuesday.
I think Elizabeth Dole should spend the next year after she looses this election, looking for a real good lawyer to sue the doctor that perform her terrible facelift. She looks like a complete diferent person.
i pray and hope north carolina will go blue as much i do here in south carolina, from what i hear that mccain is losing grounds here! VOTE DEMOCRAT!!!
i have enough of this so called christian right wingers throwing dirt!! that is totally un-Christ like!!
OBAMA-BIDEN 08 & 12
Scott L,
Once again, you are a very small, angry little man.
Must be awful when the demons come at night.
Poor Republicans.
Go Hagan!
Dole is a disgrace!
Please post this!!!
Republicans think that it's unamerican to be anything other than a Christian, unamerican to serve on a committee that helps american citizens, unamerican to pay higher taxes, unamerican if you're sitting at home jobless even though you just got laid off because of republican policies, unamerican to accept gov't help in the time of need. So unless your Christian, selfish, rich, never had gov't help, employed you are unamerican and unpatriotic by republican standards.
What is it with the old farts "72 saying nasty things? My grandmother is sweet and would never call someone Godless. First McCain, now Dole?
I used to like Liddy Dole. I even once wanted her to run for president. After the low-down, dishonest nature of the attack she made, though, those days are over. Disappointing. This is a season for disappointments, apparently... I used to admire John McCain, too.
Hey Dole,
Nice Botox!! Hey, except for fundraising, when was the last time you visited us in NC? What, you can't remember? That's what I thought.
Hagan '08
This ad and many more that I've seen this year are why I will not vote for a Republican as long as I live. I have never seen so many nasty, despicable ads in a campaign, ever.
What's wrong with being a godless American? I'm one of them, I don't believe in god, does that qisqualify me from being an American, I THINK NOT! Go %-yourself liddy dole!
OB-08
I hope the Republicans lose big time and the message goes out to all politicians that the American people are tired of hateful and divisive campaigns. As the gentleman from Canada said, we're starting to look like a country engaged in sectarian (verbal) warfare.
That 'Godless' ad that the Dole campaign chose to run was pathetic and a lie. Putting up Hagan's picture and having a voice that sounds like Hagan say "There is no God"...I'm not religious at all, but I know that Hagan is, I know that Dole knows that Hagan is, and this shows me (a not religious person) just how low Mrs Dole (like Senator McCain) has CHOSEN to stoop...they are both willing to lose their dignity to try to win an election. The Republican Party used to be a party of respect , even if you disagreed with them. They are not that any longer. They are a patheric party of liars.
Gary,
You guys are doomed by an Obama win? How so?
America survived 8 years of moronic leadership under Bush. I think you guys will be a-ok with Obama for 8 years.
I am Steve the Canadian and I endorse Barack Obama!
Bye, Bye Dole and take that husband with you!
I would never vote for someone like Elizabeth Dole (R-North Carolina). She has become very unpatriotic and dishonest. She is part of the problem. I am hopeful her opponent will defeat her on 11/04/08 so her and Bob can live happily ever after.
Looks to me like she has aged and gained some pounds.
IS EVERYONE FINALLY STARTING TO RECOGNIZE THE DIVISION, HATE, AND HYPOCRICY OF THIS PARTY?!? THEY HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING IN THE BOOK TO MAKE YOU SCARED OF THIS BLACK GUY! HOW LONG SINCE McCAIN TALKED ABOUT ISSUES?!? "WE LOVE THE MILITARY AND IT'S MIGHT" THEY SAY, WHEN BLACKS, HISPANICS, AND LOWER INCOME WHITE FAMILIES STOCK THE ROLLS IN THE MILITARY. HOW DID THE REPUBS PULL THAT OFF?!? i GUESS THAT'S WHY IT'S SOOOOOO EASY FOR THEM TO SEND "THOSE KIDS" OFF TO WAR!
What is it with these old farts at age 72 saying nasty things? My grandmother is a sweet 81 year old and would never call someone Godless. First McCain, now Dole? YUCK! This election year is really nasty. It's time for the Republicans to get out of congress and the white house.
a hahahha, thats what you get for thinking you are gods choosen one!
get lost dole
Go KAY HAGAN!!!
After Mrs. Dole's "GODLESS" ad – I logged on and sent Kay Hagan a $10 donation. And Mrs Dole an email tell her why I'd support a candidate not in my state.
I'm sick and tired of half-truths and lies coming from Republicans, I use to have some respect for – McCain is another one. A once honorable man has sunk to such lows he's unrecognizable.
Dole should be ashamed. Just like her counterparts, she has resorted to lies and foolish attacks. MS Dole, it's time to hang it up and fade from the scene. You reputation is tarnished beyond repair just like your mentor G. Bush.
Dole deserves to lose. I already voted for Kay Hagan!!!
Obama/Biden the only real way to go 08
Dole deserves to lose after stooping to such a dishonest, immoral level in this election. It reminds me why I left the Republican Party. Sad.
Decency '08
I can't believe the depths to which American Politics has sunk. Does anyone remember Separation of Church and State? Elizabeth Dole has become a poster child for the worst kind of politics. Smear your opponent. Lie. Use Religion, which to some of us is sacred, as a weapon. Anything to get elected, eh, Liddy? I honestly have no idea how you look yourself in the mirror. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you don't have the intelligence to be ashamed, I will do it for you. We have become an international laughingstock. I look forward to your imminent and humiliating defeat at the hands of the Godless Kay Hagan. Funny, I don't think God will be stepping in to help you win. Maybe He's disgusted at what you've done in His name.
I am just wondering if a senator must believe in God? If yes, which God? What a pity Mrs. Dole had to get this low to compete.
Let's hope Senator Dole will join Carl Rove and other Republicans who use campaing tactics that are "way out of line"! Most Americans have Finally caught on! Maybe Senator Dole can secure a position on AM Talk Radio?
An Independent for Senator Obama!
North Carolina vote for Kay Hagan and send a clear message to the GOP & Elizabeth Dole that smear & fear tactics don't work.
Statistically the economy does better with a Democrat in the White House – vote Obama/Biden!
Dole used to be a respected name in Republican politics.
All I can say is Conservatives everywhere believe they are entitled to be the "rulers". These people can do and say anything unthinkable to win. I do not even know how they say they believe in god when what they do all against god’s teaching. They are master of spinners. They throw, as much dirt as they can to their opponents, with the hope of some will stick. This is not just Doyle’s strategy look at what McCain is doing. It is despicable.
Run a hate campaign and you get run out of time...fool!
Until Liddy Dole, I never thought I would find anyone worse than Sarah Palin running for office.
just like McSame...desperate and willing to try anything.
While they stare into the abyss of defeat nationwide, all that's left for the GOP now is dirty politics. And the more dirty they play, the more the people voting against the GOP. I say keep up the dirty work GOP, so that we Dems can sweep the country on Nov 4th.
I thought that Elizabeth Dole was a reasonable, moderate woman. Boy was I wrong. What a disgraceful advertisement, on multiple levels. She deserves to lose.
Dole should be ashamed of herself, I hope voters punish her for such horrible tactics.
These people look creepy when they get that skin pulled...
Senator Dole should not be so negative. She fell down hard with other GOP politicians.
I'm not thrilled with Hagen but Dole is pathetic!!! I am so sick of the Republican's Carl Rove tactics!
I also find nothing wrong in Freedom of Religion or a persons right to not have a religion.
I believe in separation of "Church and State" or "Synagogue and State" or "Temple and State".
No one can prove their religion is the right one so why don't we leave it out of our politics?
Elizabeth Dole's add is vile and drags the entire democratic system of elected representation in the gutter. Call her election office at 704-633-0014 or email info@elizabethdole.org and demand she pull her add immediately.
Everyone keeps saying barack will cause our country to get attacked by our enemies.... I believe the opposite.
Think about it. Radical-Let Isalmic terrorist would prefer to have an attack against an American leader who they can cast as a Radical-Right Christian Terrorist whose followers believe it is the will of God to kill/destroy Muslims.
For it is this scenerio that validates Radical-Let Isalmic terrorist belief. Remember they are not afraid of fighting and dying... the are really afraid of truth, peace and unity.
It makes me laugh when Obama and Biden talk about creating jobs.
The trial lawyers and unions both destroy jobs and are a drag on the economy. Those 2 groups are the 2 largest contributors to the democratic party and Obama. If Obama wins its pay back time and we all lose unless you are a lawyer or union member.
AFTER THE ELECTION, WE NEED TO ENSURE A MOVEMENT BEGINS TO ELIMINATE DISTORTIONS, LIES, HATE, AND DIVISION. After elections we are left with a populace divided, with no trust of the newly elected officials, and convinced the "godless", "socialist" or "baby killer" won. In a recent experience, an executive said in a meeting (first hand info) "Barak will ruin my family. I hope someone shoots him." Anyone who perpetuates this division and namecalling, especially when wrong, has to be crushed at the polls to ensure they do not come back. And we need to ensure this type of behavior is totally discounted and that there are consequences.
We've got those Republicans on the run!
Just look at them scurry away like rats with all their obscene wealth in their greedy little paws!
We don’t need their lousy demeaning jobs – we can live off tax refunds.
Anyone seen the PUMAS?
Absouletly appalling. Elizabeth Dole resorting to outright lies.
Liddy, I am so sorry for you that you betray all of your rpincipals in an attempt to retain worldly power, and that you bear false witness against another human.
That, my firends, is Godless.
For over two decades, I admired Elizabeth Dole for what she seemed to represent – decency in politics – and what she did in serving our nation. Her recent desperate blaspehmous attack on her opponent has vastly diminished her. It is one thing to lose with grace and with one's dignity and values intact – and it is entirely another thing to jump into the sewer and get neck deep to fling a few handfuls at your opponent. I feel sorry for her, and for her fall in our esteem. In my eyes, Elizabeth Dole has lost with this action, irrespective of the outcome of the polling on Nov. 4.
Scott L
You are the last person who should mention "no respect"....oh, the irony. Pot, please meet kettle.
Why does she think that she has the right to call anyone godless? I did not think that she could be beaten this year, but now she has made it possible. There is no Christian love in her. She really fits the mold of a Republican regime.
Ridiculous Ms. Dole. Who cares if she is an atheist? The Constitution does not require that people running for Congress subscribe to a certain tenet of beliefs, religious or not. It is an act of desperation. And if she is "Godless" as you claim, isn't it your responsibility as a Christian to witness to her and try to bring her to Christ rather than tearing her down. It amazes and saddens me that the GOP always touts themselves as true Americans, Patriotic, and God-loving, yet can't stand America or most Americans, and their actions are most un-Christian in their treatment of others.
Senator Dole now admits the ad was inadvertent.Apparently that morning by mistake she took her husband's viagra and just could not control her emotions towards her senatorial opponent..
I really think an Obama presidency will allow white people to honestly be critical of a black man, in a mixed audience, based on how he does performs as president without the false stigma of being considered a racist.
I know I will feel quite liberated.
I'm glad Libby is losing.. She needs to lose in a landslide right along with Bachmann and McCain. UGH! Get this people out of office!
We should send both Dole and Michelle Bachmann some place where they can fear-monger and scare each other all they want...but we shouldn't send them back to Washington DC!!!!
AFTER THE ELECTION, WE NEED TO ENSURE A MOVEMENT BEGINS TO ELIMINATE DISTORTIONS, LIES, HATE, AND DIVISION. After elections we are left with a populace divided, with no trust of the newly elected officials, and convinced the "godless", "socialist" or "baby killer" won. In a recent experience, an executive said in a meeting (first hand info) "Barak will ruin my family. I hope someone shoots him." Anyone who perpetuates this division and namecalling, especially when wrong, has to be crushed at the polls to ensure they do not come back. And we need to ensure this type of behavior is totally discounted and that there are consequences.
It's sad that this anti-reason commercial will affect so many voters, and that Hagan is responding not by calling out the hatefulness of Dole's rhetoric, but to run to god and suggest that being called an atheist is slanderous. Not believing in fairy tales should count for a candidate, not against. It's clear that voting America would rather have its outdated views coddled than have the courage to challenge its own beliefs. Science and atheism are rational tenets upon which to govern. Contradictory words in an ancient book are not.
The ad untruthfully suggests that Hagan is an atheist, and she is not. But I'm left with the same question that Colin Powell asked: What if she were an atheist? Where it is written that atheists can't run for public office? As a follower of Jesus, I am compelled to love others and give an answer for the hope that I have with gentleness and respect. As an American, I am committed to the First Amendment, which prohibits the establishment of a religion. I and millions of others can embrace both commitments simultaneously.
Too bad Elizabeth Dole appears to be unwilling or unable to do the same.
The Republicans are in serious need of figuring out what their platforms and issues really are. The lobbiests and special interests have been doing that for them for too many years. The proof of their need for definition is the fact that all they can come up with in their campaigning is lying dirt dished out about their opponents. Where is their statesmanship? Where is their shame? I would be humiliated to lie and dish out dirt like they do. Most people are better people than that, and if they don't have anything real to say, they keep their mouths shut.
Good deal! I hope the fear-mongering, fake-christian, republicans learn a lesson from all of this! Jesus would have never stood for the negativity coming from the McCain campaign or the Dole campaign.
I live just 20 miles from Sen. Dole's home town. You couldn't pay me to vote for Elizabeth Dole. She's done very little for the state, and has lived in George Bush's back pocket for the last 8 years. . Her most recent campaign commercial 'Godless' is absolutely disgusting and full of lies, much like McCain's and Palin's ads. She should be ashamed.
Obama/Biden... and Kay Hagan... in '08'
After seeing the ad, I donated $5 to Kay Hagan and I suggest you do the same. I know $5 isn't much but it's all I can afford right now. Good luck on Tuesday Kay! The nation will be watching!
this evil old lady has had one bad face lift–you could bounce a penny of that face-lol
Go Democrats Go Democrats. We need this race for the White House with a good victory. Vote Democratic.
Just like McCain, Dole is another old fogy who needs to retire. The old days of being a nasty politican should be OVER!
There are probably millions of godless Americans. Tax paying, law abiding godless Americans entitled to representation. There is no law prohibiting them from donating to campaigns that I know of, and no law against a candidate accepting them. It's called separation of church and state. And it's a fundamental aspect of our government. We need to all work very hard to see that it stays that way. VOTE America!
In a campaign season chock full of Republican low blows– all of them fruitless– this was perhaps the most vile. I honestly don't understand how anyone except the very wealthy has the nerve to continue to support the GOP's bankrupt political beliefs after the last eight years.
9/11, Katrina, the bungled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the subprime loan crisis, the banking industry meltdown, and now the bailout that was supposed to loosen the credit market but is instead being hoarded by the very institutions that whined so hard to get them. All products of the Republican Party and it's necrotic philosophy.
Good Lord, how often do you folks need to hit yourselves in the head with a hammer to know it hurts? We've had eight years of this tragic clown act and you want to come back for more? Please, Republicans, do the rest of the nation a favor for once and put country before party and stay home on Election Day.
'Goodbye Elizabeth'...Your dirty tricks are working as well as McCains.
I was utterly digusted by this 'godless' ad put out by Elizabeth Dole. How dare she use God as a tool to advance her political agenda. Does this make our men and women who serve to protect our country less of an American hero if they didn't believe in God?
I'm not from North Carolina but i've donated to the Kay Hagan campaign after seeing this disgusting ad.
When people make insane comments like Dole or th nutcase Congresswoman in Minnisota. The people recognize that these folks do not deserve to be in office. So I'm glad to see their true colors come out. This way the people will notice to never vote for them again.
You reap what you sow....8 years of hate will result in big wins for the dems on Tuesday and when the repubs wonder how this happened, tell them to look in the mirror.....and cringe
I voted for Hagan!
The commercial that the Dole camp released is despicable. I thought Republican candidates in general (there's a nasty senatorial race going on right now in Maryland) had sunk low enough, with their constant use of the term "liberal" like it's a racial epithet. But this one takes the cake, icing, sprinkles, and all. If Mrs. Dole loses, she deserves it.
I could have sworn that McAint's poll standings improved somewhat when he momentarily focused on the issues (i.e. the economy). But when he went back to trashing his opponent again, it was just more of the same, and the polls reflected it. He's reaching at this point; he's done. I for one believe that outcome will be better for America.
And so the wicked witch of the east shouted, "I'll get you, Kay Hagan, you atheist and you're little socialist too" when suddenly the skies opened up and the sea parted, washing the evil witch away.
1. It's below the belt to question someone's religious beliefs, shame on you Dole.
2. Even people who don't believe in God deserve to be heard, this is AMERICA, shame on you Dole.
3. Spend more than 33 days in NC and maybe you could hold your seat, Mrs. Dole.
Dole is an ignoramus. And a poor Christian.
I would never in a million years have expected this from Elizabeth Dole. What on earth is possessing these people to act like this? They have lost all sense of decency. We would never allow this sort of behavior from our children. Why are we tolerating it from our leaders?
I pray that Mrs. Hagan gets the position because Mrs. Dole has gotten very divisive and nasty with her campaign and she is telling lies left and right. Go Hagan
This is my hometown and I have always been proud of NC, please let me continue to speak proudly. Go Ms. Hagen GO!
I think the whole country is going BLUE! Thanks for the help Liz, you idiot
Elizabeth, this is payback for that despicable ad that you have been running. It always amazes me how people can be such vile human beings, and still consider themselves "Christian". Hypocrite
Atheists are citizens in our country...the country that has a Constitutional protection of Freedom of Religion.
The Republican party has reached a new low this year, a low even lower than in 2004. Amazing!
You know, the Nazis also went after the atheists, homosexuals & "elite"/free thinkers.
Of course my preference was for the Democrat in NC but after seeing the Dole ad, I think getting rid of Dole is a must. This kind of dirty sleaze cannot be rewarded. You let it go this time, it just gets dirtier the next time.
Scott L–Give it up already. Last week you were ranting that CNN would not follow up on the McCain worker being "attacked" in Pittsburgh. We no longer need your right wing agenda. The people are speaking and early voting is 2 to 1 Democrat in NC.
Uh-Ummm...Don't we have a constitutional separation of church and state? Don't we have freedom of religion? Are there religious requirements for those who seek public office? The conservative, Bible Thumping fundamentals have ruled long enough...we've got to take back our freedoms by voting Liddy and others like her out (I only WISH it were Lindsey Graham in SC!!!)
Even inside Obama's campaign, some of his people already feel that everything is just about Obama. With over $600 millions raised for the Democratic campaign, Obama has not given any to help out with campaigning at Congress or Senate level or even help out with Clinton's debt. All money has been poured into Obama's image. $600 millions!!!
The most liberal and egotistic candidate ever. You don't help the people sitting in the wagon by screwing the one pulling it. After hours of pulling the wagon, when refreshment comes, the people sitting in the wagon get it first. What a deal.
America, please vote rationally, not emotionally. The whole world envy the US. We have become the greatest nation because of our free entrepreneurial spirit, not big government control as in other nations.
"Thou Shall Reap-eth What Thou Sew-eth" Elizabeth Dole..... Your Bible should have taught you that!
CLEAN THE HOUSE!!! REPUBLICANS ARE A VICIOUS AND RUTHLESS BREED OF PEOPLE!
SHAME ON ELIZABETH DOLE! So what if your opponent is an atheist? That doesn't make her a bad person. There are millions of atheists in the United States who are decent, tax-paying, law-abiding citizens. Look at all the politicians "of faith" who have committed crimes or acted unethically. Sen. Dole's hateful ad is another example of the desperation of the Republicans. They have zero record to run on both nationally and state-wide. They choose to stoop to name-calling and hate speech to fight their losing battle.
Elizabeth Dole is a hideous woman.
Registered Republican "voted" Democrats.
Lizzy Dole is no Christian if she airs trash like that. I am disgusted that she allowed her campaign to place winning above being honorable. I hope Ms Dole learns a lesson after her opponent gets flooded with donations as this is the kind of thing that turns good and honest Republicans against their party and drives them to the other side, as they did with me.
Elizabeth, due to this one single, low-life ad, you deserve to lose. I hope you don't mind that you tarnished the Dole name.
Ms. Dole is reaping the benefits of calling her opponent "Godless.: It's time these types of outrageous remarks be rewarded by the EXIT door.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh good one BULLDOG! Excellent way to point out the ludicrous position of the Republican party.
Introducing( drum roll) the three pumpkin heads for halloween SarahPalin, John McCain and Cindy McShame McCain. Happy halloween to all of the Witches. Go away and never come back na ya hear, He Haw!! Palin, dick, cain and Cin want a bud, all of you must be drunk.
Win Obama Win 08........................................................................
Elizabeth Dole shows her character in this ad when she says she approved the message.....if she's willing to go to this place with an ad, imagine where she is willing to go once in office?
Long live negative campaigning. McCain did not learn from Hillary, and Mrs. Dole does not seem to learn from McCain. Go Republicans (down the drain).
For the life of me I cannot understand why a person would lower themself to this level for 6 years of Senate vote casting. Is her life outside the Senate that boring or terrible that she just cannot face losing her seat? And to go down in history as such a creep (McCarty, anyone?)! Her husband must be horrified at what the Dole name has become.
You left wingers are seriously insane.. all of you..i am seriously considering changing party affiliation to Independant after ive seen and read the vile hatred that has come out of all your mouths. I hope Obama loses..if not we are all screwed big time...
Some how we the American people need to make sure that the Democrats do not obtain the 60 seats. If we end up having a Democrat President and a 60 seat Democrat senate, then the American people are the losers. There will be no "Checks and Balances"
NOBAMA 2008
McCain/Palin 2008
Guess what - in AMERICA it is my right to believe or not in whatever there is or isn't in the way of a God. Send money to Hagan. She only supported my rights.
Leave it to the Republicans to use a false god as a lever.
My opponent is.... a WITCH!
The Republicans are making this the scariest Halloween in years!
Support Kay Hagan (www.kayhagan.com) and tell Dole to go away.
It's time that the Republicans who gave Bush everything he has wanted for the last 8 years now answer for their lack of integrity.
The Republican Party will really have to see if they want to continue to be the party of the past. Clearly being the party of fat, white, uneducated, bigoted, "christian", man is at an end. If they ever decide to be "Goldwater" Republicans who embrace small government, privacy, and protecting people from big business, they will see a future. More than likely they won't see the future and will continue with someone like Palin who represents the worst in Republicans! Will Obama bring Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich into the fold?
I hope she gets smeared for using religion as a political weapon to inspire hate for her opponent. She certainly deserves it.
Reagan never needed to resort to such Rovian tactics.
A junior senator, who had only 142 days of experience in Senate when he declared his candidacy, who supported domestic terrorists and organizations like Acorn, declared 'socialism' through 'spreading the wealth around', supports infanticide and wants to have dinner with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro is going to be the president of United Sates?
Are you kidding?
President Barack HUSSEIN Obama?
If we have a brain in our head, vote McCain!
It will be interesting to see if it occurs to Republicans that one of the primary reasons they'll lose so badly in this election is due to the worst kind of nastiness and dishonesty they've resorted to. The use of Karl Rove tactics is SOOO last century. Part of the change Obama is about running an honorable Presidential campaign. Americans get that you can tell a lot about the man and his plans for the country by how he handles himself under fire. And the sorry Republicans have been firing away, but keep shooting themselves in the foot.
What a disappointment. I expect the negative reaction to Dole's ad will be profound, not just for her but for the entire Republican ticket.
Dole's ad is simply the most unbelievable thing I have ever seen on television.
My wife and I looked at each other in complete disbelief the first time we saw it.
The sky looks Carolina Blue today, and I have a feeling it will be bluer on Tuesday.
Dole should be ashamed of herself. I am sick and tired of the Repubs acting like they have the corner of Faith. And by the way, why is it so many of them say one thing and do another?
Haven't seen a lot of very Christian behaivor out of the Repub party lately – most specifically Dole and Palin....
It's bizarre how several Republican candidates with bipartisan appeal (okay, two) have tarnished their images by stopping to incredibly low lies and smears. I thought of John McCain as an honorable, refreshing candidate in the 2000 election, but his conduct in this one has made me see a sour, divisive candidate who uses smears about the other guy rather than his own substance to win.
And now Libby Dole does this! Good heavens! I didn't follow her that closely, but she seemed decent enough... until now! What a vile thing to do. I mean, good grief, when you're calling a Sunday School teacher godless... what would you do to, say, a Jew?
I am so tired of the rethuglicans using their hate, lies, smears, attacks and divisiveness all in the name of GOD. They are typically the most unGodly people we know with their hearts wrapped in hate. It is disgusting.
I am a PROUD Liberal!
mccain/palin = clueless pathological liars!
After the DIRTY campaign lies and tricks she pulled, she ought to be sent packing back to Kansas. Many of us don't appreciate the kinds of lies candidate has told.
Why is it that the Republicans are trashing their own seats and their party with all the lies, negativity, scandals, and ethics violations? The GOP is looking a lot like the Titanic in its last throes.
DOLE YOU'RE DONE!!!
If we learned anything from this years elections, that the Republicans Can't run on issues........they proclaim they are the Religious Majority with great Values and such good Morales...........but the Republcans have now a few other things they can put claim too..........dishonesty, liers, gutter slinging trash throwers........
What is it with the Republican candidates this year? It seems they like being in power so much that they will do or say anything to keep it, and their supporters are no better. Ashely Todd & Joe the plumber to name a few.
When I heard the "godless" comment, I sent the Hagan campaign $50.
Time for her to leave and she can take McBush with her as she leaves the building
Too bad the story didn't mention Hagan is not only a Sunday school teacher, but also a church elder! The republican party has being taking advantage of evangelicals for years and they keep falling for the party's lies. Let's just hope they don't listen to more lies for supposed Christians that are denouncing true Christians. The republican party is so immoral but evangelicals keep falling for their lies.
My stomach can't take much more of the Republican nasties. God help America!
As soon as I read about this Dole ad, I knew that she would lose her bid for re-election. I have lost a lot of respect for Elizabeth Dole because of this.
Like the stock market we continue to see lower lows by the Republicans. The Doles should, hopefully, fade away into oblivion now (if we're lucky).
Obama/Biden '08
I'm in Utah and I just donated $15. Go get em Kay! What Elizabeth Dole and her campaign did was inexcusable. GROW UP!
Just went to KayHagan.com and donated to her, although I dont live in NC. I and my friends would donate to all victims of witch hunt.
Say NO to witch hunt. Donate to Kay Hagan.
I live in North Carolina and I wish that Dole had never been elected to the senate in the first place. She established residency in NC just to run for congress and has not done a thing to help this state or the people of this state. She started the nastiness with her mean spirited ads and I hope Hagan beats her by forty points.
She lost all the respect for her and for Bob Dole
Add Elizabeth Dole's name to the list of great Republican leadership: George W., Cheney, Rove, McBush, Palin, Joe the Plumber.
Vote for hope, not fear.
Dole should get some plastic surgery on her face.
@ SCOTT L. : sir, please do not JUDGE what we "liberals" think.
FYI to ALL the FAR-RIGHT bloggers: NOT ALL Sen. Obama supporters are LIBERALS! MOST of us, are just sick and tired of the VILE Republican politics!
McCain has been lying in his speeches, in his ads, in his robo-calls just the SAME as Bush did and has!
We, Americans, are SO sick and tired of the politics of hate, lies, fear and division!
We WANT a president who will UNITE us, who OFFERS us CHANGE!
We are sick and tired of the DISASTER the Republicans have made!
SCOTT, you and the other far-right bloggers ONLY attack, LIE and try to cause FEAR. How about talking about the FACTS and issues that face our Nation?
Like $10 TRILLION IN NATIONAL DEBT doubled by Bush/Cheney?
Or what about the FACT that Bush/Cheney are spending $10 BILLION a month in Iraq..........etc., etc., etc.
No, the far-right doesn't GET IT! AMERICANS ARE REJECTING THE POLITICS OF LIES, FEAR, HATE AND DIVISION!
This is to all the Pollsters:
I am been doing a survey on the Black vote. No one has been taking a poll with African Americans, and the few that did get the poll, has been staying they are undecided. Don't be surprized when SC, GA and the rest of the states that has a large Black and Latino community go to the polls. This will be a landslide.
Obama: "A woman shouldn't have to suffer the rest of her life for a mistake she made when she was young."
Mr. Obama, then you are lucky to be here today. You do not understand the value of a human life, your mother did.
What happened, you sold your sole....
You have sealed my vote for McCain.
My trucks aren't running now. I will be glad to help this liar move back to Kansas. I think North Carolina Political Advertising just hit an all time low.
I shudder to think that maybe the Democrats are right. Maybe we Republicans really are this awful.
Tsk tsk tsk Lizzie Dole. For someone who's so christian, you should know its a mortal sin to break the commandment thou shall not bear false witness etc....and what about what Jesus taught...do unto others etc....AND what about the gay old commandment of what comes around goes around girlfriend! You're gonna get hit with a nasty dose of karma.
AND to the poster who made a big stink about Dems getting more donations from Wall St....apparently that must mean big business is more confident in the Dems fixing the economy than the repukes, so in your face with a can of mace!
She deserves it..
McFEAR – Thats all Republicans know!!
THATS IT!!
I live in Indianapolis, and just donate to kay,
Obama 08
Ok so Obama is a muslim and Hagan is an atheist. That leaves Mormon, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Scientologist remaining for the rethuglicans to use.
The fact that the claims in this ad turned out to be blatant lies says much about the desparation of the GOP candidates in this year's elections. I've seen only one GOP candidate who's running an honorable campaign and deserves to be re-elected this year. He is Oregon's Gordon Smith. Most others, whether it's Minnesota's Michele Bachmann, or North Carolina's Dole, have run a disgraceful campaign and should be punished by losing this election. This is the year the GOP learns its lessons. This is the year we can change Washington to work for us, the people of the United States.
People are tired of dirty tactics,code words,and just plain old lies.
Elizabeth Dole is done.
The real issue here is that Sen. Dole seems to believe, like George H.W. Bush did, that atheists don't deserve the same rights as everyone else.
One of the things we hate about Iran is that it's a theocracy, right? Anyone else see the problem here?
I wonder when this country will emerge from the Middle Ages and make religion a NON-ISSUE for elections.
Dole needs to take a trip to the Jefferson Memorial, on which this is inscribed into the second panel: "No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship or ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion. I know but one code of morality for men whether acting singly or collectively."
That means YOU, Elizabeth Dole, are the UNnAmerican, not Kay Hagen.
It just doesn't get any better than this, the repugs are going to get flushed down the toilet, where they belong.
To me it's not about the left or the right it's about job performance and Dole's performance is lacking. I refuse to vote for anyone (age, race, color) that has shown the lack of getting the job done. Dole has done nothing for the state of NC. NOTHING AT ALL!!
We all American.We have to love this country and protect it
when you go somewhere else , you see we are lucky, beacause
we live in USA.,
Whatever happened to THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? God does not need Libby Dole to fight his battles. She needs to clean up her act.
If we do elect the Obama, Reid, and Pelosi team, something to help the average man will come out of it. Lord knows that nothing came of the Bush, Cheney, McCain group except more burdens on the average citizens pocketbooks.
This North Carolinian is appalled by the smear job attempted by Liddy Dole. I always knew she was a smarmy, deceitful guttersnipe. Now the entire world has proof. It's nice to be vindicated.
It is a shame that someone I used to respect like Sen Dole should choose to, and find it necessary to stoop to such tactics. The total failure of the current Admin has brought low the good as well as the bad. Unfortunately, even though Ms. Hagen is a Pres. Sunday school teacher and an Elder in her church, all the public will hear and latch onto is the "Godless" ad. Sheep to the slaughter on a ride of fear generated emotion – retraction at the bottom of page six .
What a pineapple !!
Disgusting on Dole's part, on two grounds:
1) Separation of church and state is written into the Constitution. If Dole wants to compete with Hagan on the basis of faith, let her do so in church.
2) Hagan denies knowing she was meeting with "godless" Americans, but even if she was, so what? These people are not criminals.
I have had it up to here with the effort to suffuse religion into the public sphere. if you want a theocracy, move to Iran.
I hope Liddy Dole loses bigtime.
I'm just shocked the Mrs. Dole would give that add the ok....
I have lost all respect for that lady, I 'm just shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! Here is one more Neo nazi (Dole) disguised as a "Christian".
I'm wondering how many "seminar" writers for Obama are writing comments on this article. Many of the posters are absolutely goofy in their comments.
Godless...She must be watching FOX too much...the sickening lies and right wing propaganda from FOX is poisonous... Ann Coulter must be really proud of Liz Dole today...
Libby is about to pay for her sins.
Republicans can start singing that song that goes "This is the end, my only friend the end...".
GO OUT AND VOTE
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OTHERWISE....
do NOT complain!
I live in NC, and this is another reason why Obama supporters need to make sure they vote. Dole's commercial is guaranteed to mobilize the Religious Right (which is large in NC) to show up and vote on Nov 4th. All of us Obama supporters need to do the same (I have actually already voted, but I suspect many others do not).
ur finished sleaze mistress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 and nobody deserves it more than you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GROW UP
Elizabeth Dole is "shameless."
And please explain to me, Liddy, how you seek to apply a religious litmus test clearly frowned upon in the US Constitution. For a champion of originalism, piously bleating about judges legislating from the bench (unless you like the ourcome) I am baffled by your apparent approval of the application of religion litmus tests. Surely your Harvard law degree has taught you better.
You know, I'm sick and tired of these attacks on people's faith by the GOP! I'm a life-long liberal Democrat and proud of it! I've had a personal relationship with God since I was 3 and went through my spiritual crisis when I was 13. I absolutely despise people who try to tell me what to believe and who think that they're the only ones "going to heaven" because of the particulars of their faith.
Well, in my opinion, they're just a bunch of hypocrites! If they were such great folks, they wouldn't be going around lying about others for political/financial gain!
One state no-one's talking about is Texas. It will be BLUE this year! Another suprise!!
I am completely horrified that Dole would sink this low! The Republican party has lost all morals and is rolling in the gutter!! This is the very type of campaign that caused me to vote for Obama.
dole is the epitome of what is wrong with the republican-we-got-a-monopoly-on- religion crowd. their faith teaches them hate. her crowd does nothing but steal from the sick and the old all in the name of GOD. the jesus i know was a left-wing liberal like me and barack.
Elizabeth Dole should be ashamed of herself. What has happened to
integrity during this election campaign? Is it win at any cost? What kind of
representative do we want to have someone who manipulates the truth
for their own purposes or honesty in government? Let's not let this
happen again.
Between Dole and Bachman is MN, they think Americans are god-hating and anti-American! They both will be banished on Tuesday! We're cleaning house this year!
Nasty Lady... she's going to end her career in disgrace.
I don't know why republicans think it's OK to campaign with nastiness, lies and garbage, and people that vote based on all the negativity should be ashamed of themselves...
To Elizabeth Dole: I had always respected you for your American ideals; You have not destroyed you reputation. My brother in law also got a postcard with this trash message. Bob must be very very unhappy as to you and your advisers. American should run for office with grace and if you lose; there is next time and you still have your respect.
Jon in Calif.
Poor Bob Dole!!!!Bye,Bye Elizabeth!
hugh
I just sent an email to Dole per RAR's suggestion and I sent some money to Kay Hagan.
Hope others can do the same.
Dole should not be allowed to get away with this. I told her how disgusting this is.
To everyone who says elect McCain because he has the experience, experience at what! No one, absolutely no on has any prior experience in dealing a bad economy, bad healthcare, 2 bad wars, bad education. The only one is Bush and he was horrible. But even though I am a democrat, I HAD always admired McCain and would have probably lived with him being elected, that was before he picked Gov. Palin, she is in no way prepared for VP or the Presidency. And the way McCain has run his campaign, I don't even recognize him anymore. He sold himself out for a shot at the commander in chief, you don't give up your core values for anything, no job is worth that. The exact same thing is true with E. Dole, what a horrible thing to do, she doesn't deserve to serve ever again.
It's not Sen Dole's idea. It's the Republican machine.
It's not Sen McCain's idea. It's the Republican machine.
Negative selling is taboo for most individuals. I know, as an industrial salesman, that negative selling never works. it's a turn-off. I have actually received orders from custoemrs where my competition negative sold me and my company. And those customers told me that I got the order because of my competitions' negative selling.
Will the same thing happen to the Republican machine?
I was going to vote for Hagan until I saw this add. It bothers me that she would take money from these shady people.
I was surprised at the ad, but not really offended, since it was clear the voiceovers were not Hagan. And living here, I have yet to see a positive ad from Kay Hagan, so she's not exactly sunshine and roses herself. I think the only one I've seen where she isn't spewing venom about Dole was the one where her name is attached to Obama and Perdue.
There is a third-party option on the ballot for the Senate race, and I have yet to see a nasty Libertarian ad.
Lib Dole has been a disaster for North Carolina and has only been a "rubber stamp" for bush and his policies. Instead of telling us what she would do to help the people in North Carolina; she makes up lies and runs horrific ads because she has done nothing for us and she thinks this is the way to win. I have no respect for her at all, and I thought that Christians were supposed to love one another and not try to tear down someone's character. Do so hope Hagan can be our Senator as we have not had anyone to speak for us for the past many years.
Great news but remember:
Here are the bare facts about polling. History is written by those who show-up. It only counts on election day. 28% of the electorate still thinks George W Bush is doing fine. If they are so numb to think that about George W Bush then that 28% probably does not see Sarah Palin as un-qualified or John McCain as eratic for selecting her. Say what you want about that 28% but they always vote and they always will. If you are okay with letting them decide the election then I guess you could stay home on Tuesday. If only 50% of the electorate votes than that 28% is a majority for McCain. If 60% vote, advatage Obama if 70% of the electorate would vote Obama will have a landslide of epic propotions and a clear mandate for getting our country back on its path to the 21st century.
After Barack Obama getting elected and the defeat of Proposition 8 in California, this is the most important race for me.
Go Kay Hagan!!
On Wednesday the GOP should have a Rove playbook burning party! They'll need to re-surge in a few years as a new party!! Maybe Libertarian will be the next Republican party??
The Republican party is really showing it's true colors during this election and that is what is going to cause them to lose even more seats in the House of Representatives and the Senate in addition to losing the race for the White House.
You would think that her husband would have given her better campaign advice than to run an ad like this, which had the high probability of backfiring like it has. Bob Dole never really dabbled in such hateful adds or politics, even when he was running against Clinton. He may have been known at times as a "hatchet man," but even this would be below him. I'm surprised his wife let this add go out.
depends on what pole you listening too. The liberal news media we face each day has already elected Obama and his crew so don't count your chickens before there hatched.