November 4, 2008
Posted: 04:34 PM ET

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ACORN members rally in Washington last March.
ACORN members rally in Washington last March.

(CNN) — So today I got a letter sent to all Catholic Bishops in the U.S. announcing that due to serious problems at the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the Catholic Campaign for Human Development is suspending all funds to ACORN.

It’s significant because the Catholic Church in the U.S. has given $7.3 million dollars to ACORN projects over the past decade. Just last year, U.S. Catholics gave more than a million dollars to ACORN. And it appears some of that money filtered down to the ACORN office in Las Vegas that made headlines trying to register the Dallas Cowboys football team to vote in Nevada.

The problem for the Catholics is two fold:

1. The Catholic Church is concerned about its own tax exempt status being involved in a group that is now so deeply involved in political support of one candidate.
2. The Catholic Church says questions have arisen about ACORNS financial management, fiscal transparency and accountability.

So, of course, I immediately called ACORN’s spokesperson Scott Levenson, one of many public relations specialists brought on by ACORN to fight all this bad press. And here is Scott’s response to the question about the Catholic bishop’s freezing ACORN funding:

“The facts are wrong and we will no longer participate in a Drew Griffin hatchet job against ACORN.”

Less than an hour later, after our editorial director made a call to ACORN asking if this really was their response, we got this from another public relations specialist ACORN brought on to fight the bad publicity:

“ACORN is grateful to have received CCHD funding for many years, and proud that CCHD has enabled us to help our low income constituency achieve the American Dream. We know that CCHD is reviewing their current funding, and we are in discussions with them about continuing their support.” Steve Kest, ACORN Executive Director

The tension over at ACORN must be so thick you could cut it with a …well, I guess a hatchet.

Filed under: ACORN • Catholic Church


mark   November 4th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

ACORN and all voter reg orgs are required to police the voter apps they collect, the reason they were set aside and so easily "found" by the repubs. Period. I find it so interesting that almost all repubs do not understand this; however, it is 100% correct to support the purging of 30,000 registered voters by repub secs of state (i.e., GA, CO).

I do not know enough about requirements for non-profit status, but if endorsing a candidate or party is not allowed by law, then ACORN should be in trouble. The Catholic Church may take the same view. Justice may be slow, but I do hope this matter is cleared. I, too, would not want my tax dollars wasted.

Steven Carrier   November 4th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

It just shows that the GOP can fool some of the people all of the time.
Acorn registers voters. It does not bring them to the polls. If some one registers Mickey Mouse or the Dallas Cowboys they are REQUIRED to submit the registration forms even if they know they are not valid. Acorn even poionted out the ones they thaught were fraudulant. Failure to do so would be a crime. If Mickey Mouse shows up at the polls then you can worry. Will the Dallas Cowboys fly to Nevada to vote? This to protect people that may have unusual names or share the same name as a celebrity. A good friend of mine a registered Republican and former office holder in Arizona has done a lot work for the Census in the past. In order to get the work done they must hire many temps from the same social strata as Acorn does. If some one sits at home and copies a page out of the phone book. The overwhelming odds are if they show up to vote, they were already registered. Most states require some sort of ID at the polls. All ytou folks in Nevada say hello to the Cowboys for me. This just a GOP smoke screen to purge real voters off the rolls that won't vote for them.

David, Silver Spring, MD   November 4th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

The situation surrounding ACORN suggests it has been politically targeted by the current administration in an attempt to help its fellow Republican candidate. Before accepting or promoting the notion that ACORN is "threatening the fabric of our democracy," as J. McCain put it, one needs to ask

1) Was ACORN attempting to deceive election officials through the submission of invalid registrations?
2) How was ACORN intending to take advantage of the submission of invalid registrations to cast illegal ballots in the election? and
3) What evidence exists that any voter registration actions in which ACORN was intended to benefit one candidate over another?

Unless someone can answer these questions, we shouldn't persist in a witch hunt against ACORN just because right wing radio talkers and partisan agents seek to undermine ACORN, its voter registration efforts, and its reputation.

Independant vet   November 4th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Looks as if not only The Catholics , can not get of one mess an they pile into another . What were they trying to gain by twisting voters to vote for Obama. ? Another little secret that will come out in years . I myself have never downed any Religon. I have always stated . As long as they belive in God, it is better than nothing .

They the , ones that signed on the dotted line , is the one to be held accountable. For I am sure among them , they were not all in favor of giving all them dollars to Acorn for Obama.

God Bless America , an may God protect us from having such an hatefull person , that wants to destroy our freedom , along with our flag. . Please God no Obama.

Candace   November 4th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

People….stop confusing Voter fraud with the stories regarding alleged Voter registration fraud. When and if actual voter fraud is uncovered (that is someone actually showing up to vote as say "Mickey Mouse" for example) that would be an issue. Im sure the actual voter fraud numbers will be very small to non-existent in most states. This is another scare tactic used by the GOP and its supporters. Just a desire to win at any cost regardless of who's reputation they burn to the ground. The Catholic Church should know better and focus more on its other issues like the 'actual' number of molestation cases against its clergy.

Candace   November 4th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

People….stop confusing Voter fraud the stories regarding alleged Voter registration fraud. When and if actual voter fraud is uncovered (that is someone actually showing up to vote as say "Mickey Mouse" for example) that would be an issue. Im sure the actual voter fraud numbers will be very small to non-existent in most states. This is another scare tactic used by the GOP and its supporters. Just a desire to win at any cost regardless of who's reputation they burn to the ground. The Catholic Church should know better and focus more on its other issues like the 'actual' number of molestation cases against its clergy.

Anonymous   November 4th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

People….stop confusing Voter fraud the stories regarding alleged Voter registration fraud. When and if actual voter fraud is uncovered (that is someone actually showing up to vote as say "Mickey Mouse" for example) that would be an issue. Im sure the actual voter fraud numbers will be very small to non-existent in most states. This is another scare tactic used by the GOP and its supporters. Just a desire to win at any cost regardless of who's reputation they burn to the ground. The Catholic Church should know better and focus more on its other issues like the 'actual' number of molestation cases against its clergy.

Patty   November 4th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

That was the saddest post of all, Aimee. The Church tries to help poor people buy homes and then finds out the organization that was supposed to be about helping the poor is out to further their own agenda their own way. So the Church stops supporting them since they are not keeping their end of the bargin. Sounds fair to me.

What's the real reason you're not Catholic anymore?

majikimaje   November 4th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Proven Fact : Michelle Obama, Barak and willam Ayers are all BOARD members of Acorn. Get the real unbiased facts at worldlnetdaily dot com !

FixAcorn   November 4th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

They need to fix ACORN by:
Removing the law that forces ACORN to turn in all registration forms (which is what caused this mess)

Alan J Goldstein   November 4th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Who needs the support of pedophiles?

Marc PDX   November 4th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Sounds like you're hatcheting the Catholic Church to me.

To the Catholic Church: chose your friends carefully. When push comes to shove that's what you may get if you pick unwisely.

The Stallion & The Champ vs. The Old Mule and Winky Half-baked Alaska   November 4th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

John McCain is on videotape addressing ACORN and praising the work they do, so all you right-wing, nutjob hacks shut your ugly pieholes!!! Spawn Insanity and Blowhole O'Reilly are calling you …

John   November 4th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

More fairy stories from the Catholic church don't they have enough of these myths and fairy stories in their Bible

James   November 4th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

judging by the comments people dont know who the hell to blame for this, so how can we be blaming people, both sides are always pulling this crap, and if you havent been on the moon last 8 years it was the Republicans most famous trick, so hows this suddenly become a democrat issue? are people that scared that we wont have a ditz as VP and a senile old man for president? just dont know what to say anymore lol. Seen a sign on tv "use your brain vote McCain" thats funny concidering the smart people didnt vote for him. HAHAHA cry cry cry, thats all we will hear if the dems win this, a nation of whiners will truly emerge, if you listen to their idiotic chants at the rallies it shouldnt surprise you.

Michael M, Phoenix AZ   November 4th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Screw the Catholic Church….ALL religion MUST be kept out of politics…PERIOD!

MCinMD   November 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

The notion that ACORN tried to commit voter fraud by registering the Dallas Cowboys is simply unfounded. Do you really think someone posing as Tony Romo (or Micky Mouse in another case) was going to show up and try to vote? The reality is that ACORN hired some minimum wage workers to do voter registration and some idiot sat down and started filling in registration cards instead of doing the work. Such idiots should be prosecuted. The conservative echo chamber also never points out that ACORN itself has in most cases identified these problem registrations and informed election officials.

John   November 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Ellen in Ohio…I agree, and don't forget to throw in our public universities and schools as well. It is no wonder our youth only vote one party…it is all they are force fed.

True Blue Ohio   November 4th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

ACORN functioned in the same capacity in the 2004 election. They had problems back then. In my opinion, they should not have been allowed to operate given their past history. However, their actions have nothing to do with Barack. They are a third party, the only people responsible for ACORN, is their administration. And the names of those individuals should be released as they were the ones who neglected to provide oversight for their employees. No one else should be held responsible for their incompetence but them.

Agnes Fleming   November 4th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

By the way, Acorn has nothing to do with voting, only helping to register those who are disinclined. It is not about voter fraud, which I am sure we will see plenty of before this night is over, lest we forget Florida in 2008, and that had nothing to do with Acorn. That had to do with George Bush stealing the election along with his brother, Jeb, who was Governor of Florida at the time and Catherine Harris, the real frauds. I wonder what could possibly happen tonight, but nothing like distracting us with Acord?

Nancy   November 4th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Paul, I believe what you mean is martial law. I am concerned that Obama wants to start a special military. hmmmm.. reminds me of something like the KGB. Does anyone have info on that?

jay   November 4th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Drew maybe if you approached them as a nuetral journalist rather than an opinionated populist, you would not have these problems investigating this organization. just a thought.

Granny   November 4th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

David Lopez, get your head out of the sand. The Democratic party under Bill Clinton were the ones that are at fault for the financial crisis. They are the ones that called for fannie mae and freddie mac to reduce the criteria for low income families to make it easier for them to obtain loans. That had nothing to do with Bush. Also, don't forget that the president is not the only one responsible for the recession in our economy. We have had a Democratic congress for the last few years, and they too have to be held accountable. Not a Democrat, but a Republican (John McCain), proposed legislation in 2005 for more oversight into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because he recognized the danger to our economy. The Democrats, including Obama, profited substantially from these two financial giants and they didn't do anything to curtail them.

Puzzled   November 4th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Thank God my church has divorced themselves from these thugs.

Perusing-Through   November 4th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

THE ACORN ACCUSATION HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY OVER BLOWN WITH THE SUPPORT OF JOHN McCAIN, THE GOP, AND KARL ROVIAN COPY-CATS.

When the dust clears, evidence will come to light that proves any unintentional mishaps by Acorn is no greater in percentages than any previous presidential election year. Acorn just got caught up in the GOP drive-by 'character shootings'. John McNasty needed another way to attack Senator Obama's character so he concocted "Acorn-Voter-Fraud" stew and tried to hit Obama with it. Unfortunately Acorn was in the middle of the attack and was caught completely off guard and not ready to defend itself.

Common Sense in Fresno   November 4th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

As stated before, they have to turn in every application received.

This is a non-story, especially in the national scheme of things.

It is refreshing that the Obama campaign has been so lacking in mistakes that this is getting played up.

nitro   November 4th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

You idiots have lied ,stolen and cheated for so long just the thought that it might be happening to you make you sick to your stomach. Well live with it because thats what poor people in this country has had to live with for hundreds of years. Take this time to take a look at yourselves and figure out what it is that you can do to bring this country together. 1country 1 Love

Iowa Conservative   November 4th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Voter Fraud is not really that bad when you take into consideration how much the Electoral College distorts the Popular Vote anyways. I am not saying that they didn't do anything wrong by any means. But, I really think that if we are going to change things…. we should change the system also.

Just a thought…

Richard   November 4th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Republicans ran the economy into the ground. Senator Obama's advisors were top Fannnie Mae/ Fredie Mac executives (and also Democrats).
Banks were forced by federal regulatons to make risky loans to to pople who could not afford them–thanks to Jimmy Carter and strengthened legislation pushed though by President Clinton.

Tax Breaks for the rich–paying out a lower percentage brought in the highest revenue in history in dollars. When it is repealed, expect companies paying higher taxes will lay off workers.

In an interview Senator Obama ackowledge that higher taxes will bring in less dollars but he thought it fairer. What it eans is that the people creating jobs in the country pay more while there is less money in the national coffers to pay for government programs.

Obama warn yesterday that his own energy plans will skyrocket electricity bills (because he opposes coal industry). He's telling us how he will trash America but people still trust him because of his charisma.

J. S.   November 4th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

With all the voter fraud going on–we probably will never know who REALLY won the election—

Cam   November 4th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

This is a call for fair and complete journalism. I mean, many people on here, due to the negligence and bias of Drew Griffin and Lou Dobbs, do not understand the difference between voter REGISTRATION fraud and voter fraud……

Registration fraud, which is what ACORN is accused of, very rarely (like 20 reported cases EVER) results in election fraud. this is a scare tactic from Republicans, pure and simple.

Again, fire Drew Griffin and let him go over to Fox News where he belongs……send Dobbs with him……

maurice   November 4th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

We Are All Real Americans: do you live by a river in egypt called denile? i have seen 2 videos of acorn people in front of crowds saying lets get obama elected.

KJL   November 4th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

One candidate? John McCain was also involved with ACORN, when he thought it was to his advantage.

Missouri in Philly   November 4th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Ben, Are you kidding, 8 years of bad economy? where have you been? The economy has been rocking since recovering from 911… High gas prices and lack of oversight on Fannie and Freddy have put the skids on this economy only recently (and both the failure to drill domestically and failure of key Dem legislators to heed the warning signs about risky lending are to blame). If you want change, the Dem house and Senate is already giving it to you… and when they repeal your tax cuts, everyone will stop spending and the economy will really shut down.

Sue in MI   November 4th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

I fail to see how this organization has enabled anyone to vote more than once. With ID required, and voter roles checked and rechecked, no one can walk into a polling place not their own and vote. Mickey Mouse did not vote today in Florida. I'm sorry Republicans are po'd that they are losing, but McCain and Palin did it to you when they decided to run a negative, evil campaign that turned people off. You may not like Obama, but he has shown himself to be a man who can control his temper, get his points across without bashing the other guy, and who sounds Presidential instead of like the schoolyard bullies shaking his and her fists at the little kids.

Melodie   November 4th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

I'm not Catholic, but I've donated to several of Catholic Charities' relief projects because they do a good job. You can't downplay the importance of getting disenfranchised people involved in the Democratic process. ACORN, however, didn't police itself properly and Catholic Charities is right to pull back. Catholic Charities' donors come from varying political beliefs and Catholic Charities needs to be fiscally responsible on their behalf. Also, to retain their tax-exempt status, churches aren't supposed to participate in the political process (although we all know it's done). I hope that if ACORN proves that the infractions were isolated incidents, and gets a plan in place to ensure that "Mickey Mouse" and other famous characters never again get registered as voters, the nonprofit might qualify for the support of Catholic Charities down the road.

Schneider (I) - CA   November 4th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

The ignorance of some of these comments is blinding! First off, registration fraud was committed AGAINST ACORN, not by them! Secondly, it was ACORN themselves that noted the fraudulent registrations. Thirdly, ACORN does not endorse any political candidates. They may work in lower-income, urban settings which tend to vote a particular way, but the organization as a whole is bi-partisan which is why the Church has been allowed to donate for over a decade. As for the generally loony comments, this country will not turn socialist. Stop listening to Hannity and Limbaugh. Use your brain. Taxes for 95% of WORKING Americans will go DOWN under Obama. And for the rest, their tax rate will just revert back to the level pre-Bush. if you remember that was Clinton. And if I recall correctly, those making $250,000 or more, did just fine under the GOP's public enemy #1. Obama is a capitalist. He supports big businesses, the coal industry, small businesses, the banking industry etc. Most progressives find him to be too corporatist! So before you pin every single ailment on him, give him an honest chance. You may have to ween yourself off of Fox News for a week or so, but you just might find a whole new world out there.

v   November 4th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Ben, 6 out of those 8 years our economy grew steadily. Don't believe brainwashing media, check the statistics. Our unemployemnt rate was 4.5 – 5%, we grew @ the rate of 3% per year… And the last two comparatively bad years somehow coinsided with Democrats-ran Congress. Accident? How about 9% job approval – that's unheard of. Compare this with Palin's numbers and don't blame Bush. Soon you'll see "redistribution of wealth", taxes rising for everybody, money leaving the country, loss of jobs, huge unemployment rates – all that Canada and Western Europe have already for years. All their economic growth happens when our economy is OK. When we turn from the nation of entrepreneurs to the nation of 9 to 5 employees – as Europe did – we will stop existing as the superpower.

phoenix   November 4th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Ah ACORN, the incredibly shrinking story, the incredible shrinking controversy. When will the conservatives stop thugging people away from the polls? Only when they can convince the rest of us there's a problem with "voter fraud." What do they do when there's no problem? Easy! Make one up!

independent for Obama   November 4th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

The Catholic Church can't afford to help ACORN anymore. They have to payout settlements to people who have been molested by priest. And yes I am Catholic.

than   November 4th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

Here's how voter registration drives work. Organizations obtain names and addresses of new voters often paying workers for the number of new registrations they produce. The organizations are required by law to then turn over ALL registration forms to the state regardless of their accuracy. The reason they have to turn in ALL forms is so that they can't choose to exclude people they don't think share their views (e.g. if a Democratic group has a number of registrations where the persons identified themselves as Republicans they can't throw them out and vice-versa.) It is the responsibility of the state to verify the accuracy and that's when names like Mickey Mouse get pulled out of the pile. Handing in a form in Nevada with Tony Romo on it isn't Voter Fraud unless and until someone shows up and actually attempts to vote under that name. If anything ACORN got ripped off by paying workers for bogus names.

nitro   November 4th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

You would have plenty of money if you stop covering up the Priest having sex with little boys.

Ben   November 4th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Does anyone realize that the fake registrations wouldn't have DONE anything…that is, unless you think the Dallas Cowboys were going to go vote in Nevada.

It was lazy employees trying to meet a quota. ACORN is not a sinister, fradulent organization tied to a single candidate. It is an organization that had poor employees.

lori from pa   November 4th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Good ! I think that's good judgment. Acorn definetely needs to be investigated.

wondering   November 4th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

I am wondering…if people believe the GOP has "run our economy into the dirt" – have they really considered Obama's theory of wealth redistribution? Who do they think the wealth will come from and who will it go to???
Please don't tell me it will only be from those with "lots of money". It will be from all of us – but, then, perhaps many of you are the ones who feel you deserve money someone else has earned.
What is next…reparations?

Carlo   November 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

I'm cathloic and pro-obama, but if this group really is found to be that corrupt then I feel it's appropriate for the church to cut off funding. The church it's self simply can not involve it's self with any organization that would engage in corrupt tactics to the end of trying to some how rig an election. Now, putting things into perspective:

1). illegal registrations may or may not be the fault of ACORN as an orginization. It's well known that many individual employee's took it upon them selves to cheat in order to ensure either continued employment or to get more money from the orginization.

2). illlegal registrations are a far cry from rigging an election or allowing illegal votes to be cast. Mickey Mouse won't be allowed to vote any where, and I doubt the Dallas Cowboys would be allowed to vote in nevada.

Now addressing certain specific comments.

Anonymous 4:53pm – Our nation already has gone socialist, you can thank George W Bush for that, as well as both John McCain and Barack Obama for supporting the persidents initative to buy stakes into banks nation wide

The Prophete 4:55 – It's impossible to say which candidate is winning or losing at this point, but as of this AM Obama was up by 7pts.

jake   November 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

The diversity of all the responses illustrates that more than half of the responders are uneducated and do not know who or what to blame or what the problem is. One of them thinks martial law is Marshall law, GO FIGURE.

Spread the wealth   November 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

The Dem's will have gained all the power with the president and a majority in both the house and senate. Now we are on the verge of the great new world order. Tax the rich and give to the poor. From everyone according to their ability given to everyone according to their need. I can't wait to see those fat rich suckers shriek when we jack their 401k and other benefits with a 35%+ tax. The great socialist revolution has begun! Obama will change the corruption inherent in the system and allow those who have nothing to take their fair share. He will force the rich to work for the benefit of the poor. Sacrifice is the call…whether you like it or not. The Catholic Church is running in fear. They know. Time for them and their great wealth to share the burden.
I'm glad ACORN milked them for cash and now it will be their undoing.

helen   November 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

For all those that wonder what the big deal is, it's that there should be no voter registration fraud. If there is, each of the fraudulent votes negate the votes of law abiding citizens.
Additionally, ACORN receiving public aid is dependent upon it being an unbiased organization. If you can readily find videos on the web of ACORN head honchos saying, "let's make sure Obama is elected" then it is no longer an unbiased organization, and the same would be true for if they were solely trying to get a Republican elected.
We should be trying for zero voter fraud tolerance, and that means, gasp, not getting upset when the polling places expect you to have an ID with you.

John M.   November 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Looming socialism? Only Mosques will be tax exempt? Wow. Really? You people are so full of hate that you are making no sense, and just flailing like the intolerant, ignorant reactionaries you are. I cannot wait for Obama to be president and put an end to 8 years of your type of small, pathetic mindset ruling our country and bullying the world. Just like Islamic fundamentalists, you should really crawl back into your caves and mind your business while adults work on the tough decisions.

MBB, Pittsburgh   November 4th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Obama is going to win! Get over it. If you were so concerned maybe you should have prayed for your candidate and if you did consider the posibility that god dosn't support McCain.

J Carter II   November 4th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

I was surprised to see someone renouncing their faith because the Catholic Church refused to fund a corrupt organization. But then again, renunciation of one's Religion will be expected under the Obama's Liberal Cult of Personality. After all, Barry was claimed to be a Maoist.

Jason   November 4th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Too funny. We're seeing the same Republican supression machine in all it's glory in the same critical battleground states and this is waht we get from CNN. There is attempt to steal another election, let's focus our attention there for once CNN! Where is the coverage and outrage over what's taking place once again, closed polls, robo calls announcing different voting dates and locations, emails and texts. What are we a 3rd world country. Do not allowe this to happen again! It's outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!

Non-emotionial thinking   November 4th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Platitudes to john – well said. To Concerned CT voter – know your history before you comment – the GOP or Republicans under Lincoln did free and watch out for the little Guy – even fought a war for it…

HouseDiva   November 4th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

WOW…what a surprise!

NOT!

William   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

ACORN did nothing wrong. The voters they registered that they felt were false, ACORN marked them as suspicious. The law still requires that those be sent to the state, which ACORN did. They is nothing more than a smear campaign by McCain. It is a shame that it is the poor who will pay for McCain's lies.

NO to IRAQ OSAMA   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Ok… so you want to brush over Acorn…What about Ayers?…What about Osama's aunt??? What about his afiliation with Rev Wrong???

Wake up. NO to IRAQ OSAMA. Only the shallow, easily decieved will be bough by the terrorist!!!

Lewis   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

I'd love to see some actual proof that ACORN, as an organization, has done something wrong?

How come you've never interviewed ACORN live on TV? Odd, given the amount of air time CNN has devoted to ACORN that this organization hasn't had its chance to tell its side of the story.

Seems biased journalism to me.

Irene, TX   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

For God sake, we know that Catholic is against Obama because his standing on abortion, that's the only priority Catholic cares about. And dumb enough, Catholic thinks ACORN is supporting Obama. BTW, a lot of priest abused victims out there need your help. I'm proud no longer a Catholic!

Philadelphian trapped in Texas   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

I've seen no evidence in any of this that ACORN staff were complicit in the illegal activities. I think it was bad policy to be paying needy people a set amount per new registrant – it's an inevitable temptation to make up names and signatures. The organization deserves to be punished.

But ACORN has also done a lot of good over the years, having nothing whatsoever to do with the political realm, and I think it's poor policy on the part of the organizations who have historically fuinded them to now cut them off. I can certainly seeing reducing contributions by 10% or even more as a stern admonition, but the poor people of this country need ACORN in the current economy more than ever.

WarrenB   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

ACORN registers new voters. How is that partisan? ACORN sends some fraudulent names, which are caught. No fraudulent votes are cast. The Republican party uses the machinery of voting to disenfranchise large numbers of voters who may not vote Republican. This fraudulently steals two elections for them. Now, think about it — which one is really a problem?

R U kidding me?   November 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Everything has been crooked about this election, ACORN, citizenship, big campaign money. That's how they get in! But be happy, Obama has promised everyone everything. Can't wait to start living on the government, like so many that are voting for him. I'll be waiting for my change.

Julio Frankio   November 4th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Guess, what idiots, it's a few ACORN employees that have registered false voters. The organization fires and prosecutes anyone they find to have registered a fake name.

Regardless, false voter registration doesn't affect the actual outcome of the election. If someone registered Micky Mouse to vote, no Mickey Mouse will actually show up to the polls to vote. Therefore the election isn't hindered in any way.

I can't wait for a Democratic presidency. The Republican party has done enough damage in this country.

Linda   November 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Go after all the crooks involved with Acorn. They need to spend several years in jail.

Selling jets on ebay for America   November 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

They tried to register members of the Cowboys in Vegas?!?!?!
When on earth will the list of liberal dirty tricks run out of room for yet one more bit of voter fraud?

secularjihad   November 4th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Acorn is a red herring. The real voter fraud is what we're seeing in all the battleground states right now: voter rolls purged, absentee ballots not set, poll workers giving incorrect info about ID requirements, machines flipping votes, voter intimidation. ACORN is the distraction to cover the real theft of yet another election.

v   November 4th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Obama is "lesser of two evils"? Poor, naive American-born voters… Go to your neighbors born in the Soviet bloc and find out why they ran away from obamas and such… Try to understandn why, for instance, 80% of the American-Russian community will vote for McCain… We KNOW what socialists REALLY do to freedoms, to economy, to everything… You don't like an executive with 80% job approval in her State? You think Obama will do good in world politics? He is going to "negotiate" with Ahmadinejad… Well, if Munich 1938 taught people anything – it was that you don't sit down to negotiate with a cannibal unless you have a gun pointed at him and negotiations are about his surrender… But Obama, aparently, does not know this… Do you really think he would be able to look Putin in the eyes without blinking and tell him, "Screw you, we will do what is the best for America. And if we need to defend our friends – we will defend them!" John McCain, a war hero, would say that. Obama – a former law instructor – will smile and talk. Smile and talk is all he can do. How does this county elect an unproven Senator who just 4 years ago was absolutely unknown outside Chicago is beyond me… Is it some kind of media brainwashing or a death wish? How can anyone think that a person who for 20 years listened to the racist preacher and only a few months ago under pressure of his election consultants tore his ties with that preacher – how can anyone think that that person will "unite" America??? This is craziness…

Brooklynn   November 4th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

I am a democrat and I dont agree with all liberals. However I dont think one litle precinct of intimidation is going to choose this election..Obama has been leading in the polls for a very long time..Republicans, arent you sick and tired of your nonsense for the past 8 years? Lets give a Democrat a chance to change things up..What do we have to lose anyway? Bush already ruined the last 8 years of our lives..OBAMA WILL WIN FOR SURE..ITS A SAD DAY FOR JOE THE NOT REALLY A PLUMBER AND THE REST OF YOU CONSERVATIVES!! OBAMA 08

Frank Furter   November 4th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

The coverage of the Acorn "scandal" has been biased from the beginning. There has been NO voter fraud perpetrated by Acorn. There has been some "Registration" fraud committed by some members of Acorn. These individuals are singled out and let go. By LAW all voter registration cards Fraudulent or not must be turned in. Acorn verifies registrants and separated the suspected fraudulent ones FOR the Gov.
I am not concerned about Mickey Mouse showing up to the polls and voting. I am concerned about people who don't understand, don't research, yet claim to know about this issue. If you think Pepi Ronni will vote because of Acorn….please stay home.

Really?   November 4th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

To those who claim the Republicans have "run our economy into the dirt" and "ran our country to the verge of another great depression", I have to ask, do you have any idea who has actually been making the financial decisions of the country the last 8 years? Don't get me wrong, I always considered myself a middle-of-the-road Democrat until this year, but then I decided to actually do some research and educate myself and to tell you the truth, what I discovered shocked me. The housing crisis, brought on by "predatory lending", yes, but also an initiative by Democrats to make mortgages available to those who would have been denied them in the past – ie: the people who really couldn't afford them. And the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacle – if you do the research, you will find 17, count 'em, SEVENTEEN, different instances where George W. warned that something needed to be done, they were too big, etc. but nobody heeded the warning and look what happened. Yet these are two major things that "drove the economy into the dirt". And as far as another Great Depression – you're absolutely right, we may very well be headed for another one…and if you look at Obama's tax plan and look a little farther back in history, you will find that his plan mirrors that of Herbert Hoover's…that's right, the one that ACTUALLY drove the country into the Great Depression.

CAB   November 4th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

No he is not my president. My president supports America and is not concerned with what the rest of the world thinks we should do. I don't want to share what I work hard for with someone who does not want to work. I do not want to change the national anthem to something that others around the world will feel better about or change the flag for the same reason. At the end of the day the lesser of two evils is McCain like it or not. At least he is not going to bring America to their knees for the sake of making the rest of the world see a kinder gentler America. I am Catholic, my husband has been to Iraq and fought, and everyone can say what ever they want. They better hope Obama doesn't get in. WHo knows how long you will have that right before he decides it does not look good to the rest of the world.

money_tracker   November 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

This ACORN scandal is the scab on the festering sore. Wait until it is revealed how much money was contributed to the Democratic Campaign via the internet by foreign nationals illegally residing in the US who are prohibited by federal law from contributing to political campaigns. If the election is extremely close be prepared for legal and constitutional battles over the outcome. I hope that whoever wins does so by a clear majority.

Taz   November 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Can we PLEASE have the old CNN back after this is over!!!!!…..just report the news..all of it..the good and bad……
FOX with the Reps….CNN with the Demos……I'm so tired of having to get local news from other countries………….that's my hope…..Yea, I know …..it is not going to happen….

Nathan   November 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

ACORN checks all the registration forms its employees turn in. It flagged all the suspicious-looking forms before submitting them. ACORN is required by law to submit all its registration forms to the government, whether or not they're legitimate. The reason ACORN is under such scrutiny is because ACORN itself reported the falsified registration forms! People — this is not a big deal; the employees who tried to register fake voters have been fired. Obama had nothing to do with this. Stop listening to the false attacks you've been hearing.

Molly   November 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

ACORN is the victim of their own mismanagement. Had they paid attention to what their people were doing this never would have happened. I don't believe all the right wing conspircy, but its not hard to tell they have some terrible management problems.

Michael   November 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Aimee "Just another reason I'm no longer a Catholic."

Because the are not corrupt enough to support ACORN?
Are you a member?

NJ   November 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

ACORN WILL NEVER CLEAN UP ITS HOUSE. THEY BEEN DOING

THIS FOR YEARS. THEY ARE CROOKS.

WORD TO THE WISE BEWARE OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS.

THE FEDERAL FUNDING SHOULD ALSO BE TAKEN AWAY. OUR

TAXES PAY FOR 40% OF ACORNS EXPENSES.

HELL YEAH CLOSE THEM DOWN

Evie   November 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Today's politics are like rooting for your favorite football team. The dirtier they play, the more the fans love it! Whatever happened to the Mr. Smiths' who once graced the Senate and Congress? Electing the first and third most liberal Democratic candidates is proof that we have hit rock bottom! God help us because we certainly don't know how to help ourselves.

Skysaw   November 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Janet-
Your comment made sense until you said what you did about a "single school system." I suppose that means a single PUBLIC school system, presumably where children can be innoculated against their religious parents' values and grow up to be good secularists. That would be the yuck to end all yucks, no thank you. We would never allow such Marxist tenets in this country – would we?

Jose, San Diego   November 4th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

The ACORN spokesman is right, it is a Drew Griffin hatchet job — send him on to Pox News, so he can spend the next 8 years calling for Obama's impeachment.

jayson67   November 4th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Chapman's right. Much more firm evidence over the years, and this season, of actual voter fraud committed by Republicans. Again, registration and voter fraud are not the same thing. Submitting a bogus form will simply be rejected by election officials. On the other hand, collecting voter registration forms in minority areas, then throwing them away is voter fraud. That actually prevents someone from voting. ACORN truly is mickey mouse compared to republican tactics.

Brian   November 4th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Funny that voter registration fraud has gotten so much attention, while actual voter fraud is generally ignored. So much for a liberal media.

The supposed ACORN scandal is silly. Move on.

Mars Lindgren   November 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

The ACORN issue was manufactured by the GOP to undermine an organization that is committed to making sure that low income people have a voice in our democracy, and to create a bs story to take attention away from election fraud that somehow always ends up favoring Republicans. The improper registrations in question were submitted seperately by ACORN, who went through their registrations and marked them as highly suspicious, but was required by law to submit them regardless. The coverage of this non-story has been absolutely pathetic- this is what happens when "news" organizations become entertainment and profits are more important than accurate information. We must cut the organizations complicit in spreading these lies out of our national culture like a cancer.

mac   November 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

So far as I know, at least ACORN hasn't had any pedophile scandals!

Becky   November 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Why is the American Catholic church in bed with the GOP? The little boys didnt work out so well? I think they should loose their tax exempt status for this violation of Church and State….using the Eucharist and their purse as leverage is so Dark ages…

Vicki   November 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

This ACORN issue is something that has been trumped up by republicans so they could pretend to be outraged about it. All ACORN has ever done is register new voters. There is nothing that is illegal about that. The real concern should be the republican voter suppression, voter intimidation, and all other ways that republicans will try to prevent Democrats from voting. It is republicans who do the illegal things, but jump up and down about a group that is trying to do the right thing. Everyone needs to get a clue who are the real friends of voters and voters rights, and who are the real enemies of people who have a right to vote.

Jon   November 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

ACORN could lose it for Obama post-election if any of this winds up in the courts.

inthebasement   November 4th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

And this is relevant how?Separation of Church and State unless your candidate is losing?Diddle the Choir Boys,but vote extremist?SWEET!!!!!!!!!!

Loren in CA   November 4th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

It's odd that, given all of the issues and elections that the Catholic church has tried to influence, this time they're concerned about their tax-exempt status? Get all the churches *completely* out of the political process, or make them pay taxes. Don't let any of them have it both ways.

At the same time, ACORN had better clean house, and I hope that anyone who's committed voter fraud – Republicrat or Demopublican – gets their keister tossed in jail. The last thing we need is yet another reason to doubt our election system, what with vote-flipping in Virginia and surplus Republican votes turning up in Ohio.

Kathy   November 4th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

We should all DEMAND that all gov. funding of ACORN be cut off

Bubba   November 4th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

ACORN seems to be an incredibly inefficient organization. I guess they are hiring unhirables to do makework so their kids won't starve, but maybe they would be better off working for the clown. Don't really care if they get funds or not, and if they vanished maybe something better-run would appear in their place?

Kristin   November 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

You should consider the facts at one point or other, Drew. Seems like you prefer to create controversy rather than report the news. I am rather frustrated with how the media, on both sides, has chosen to present the facts during this campaign. I for one, will turn off my TV for a while. You guys are useless.

DW   November 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

ACORN must submit all filled in registration forms regardless of the presumed validity. They serve a purposed and are not all bad. The church is insincere in their action beacuse they all have and show some political preference. Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

hotmail   November 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Don 't worry about Acorn. After Obama is elected they'll have millions more and all the little investigations will quietly be called off. That's politics Chicago style.

Bob Boyce   November 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

ACORN works to register voters. Isn't that what democracy is all about? The voters themselves decide who they're going to vote for. This isn't partisan, it's democracy. Again–ACORN does not tell people who to vote for, it just gets them registered. Are you afraid of that? And ACORN itself has reported the few instances of illegal behavior by their workers!!!

Connie from Indiana   November 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Today as an old white women who lived in a neighborhood of both whites and colored,having many friends who are black, seeing how people of color have been treated. MLK and JFK being my hero's for trying to make this a better and equal America. Today I am REALLY proud of this country and I am so very proud of Senator Obama for his achievements. I believe we should all come together as a nation behind our new President Obama.Now is not the time to divide our country , but to unite.
GOD BLESS President Obama and Biden.
Connie from"BLUE" Indiana

ken   November 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

For anyone to think that fraudulent voter registrations generated through Acorn has any meaningful effect on the election turnout shows how uninformed most people are. Do your homework before you comment. Take a look at voter supression methods that is where the damage is actually done. Acorn in comparison is a non-issue.

MWAnderson   November 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

One poster commented that they didn't want their money supporting a partisan organization…well, if that's the case, then all fundamentalist christian organizations should start paying taxes immediately!

Bob   November 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

ACORN could have been a much bigger story if the McCain people used it right. This might be the story of the campaign which is Obama and his supporters made enough mistakes but the McCain crew made just as many and they try to make issues of things that were used as tactics and not a strategy. The whole issue of Obama not being trustworthy and saying anything could have been much more impactful if done over a period of time.

rob   November 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

just wait until the dallas cowboys show up to vote!

oh, wait…

think about that for a second: ACORN could register a million fictional voters, but it wouldn't make one iota of difference to the election because fictional people don't vote.

in fact, anyone who gave money to ACORN has done so with the understanding that incentivising voter sign-ups provides an opportunity for theft. but it's theft from the donors themselves. yes, ACORN's bogus signups harm the obama campaign financially but don't help it electorally.

but nevermind all that, ACORN's policy has always been to isolate and report suspect voter registrations.

in brief? this is a non-story.

Krysee   November 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Another Catholic Organization Raping the Nation

Janice Kollarik   November 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

The Catholics were simply trying to help the unfortunate and when they learned their efforts were being used for deceitfulness, they pulled out, as God would want them to do. The tragedy is in the Security of the United States for not investigating a person with so many devient terroristic connections and in the Press of the United States for suppressing it. That person may very soon be entitled to know this country's secret codes for Nuclear warfare. What a tragic error this has all been.

Common Sense   November 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

There is a lot of ignorance on this comment board. First off, YOUR tax dollars do not support tax exempt organizations. tax exempt organizations simply don't pay taxes. If that angers you maybe you should start demanding the hundreds of Fortune 500 companies that that end up paying no taxes start throwing in their share.

Second, ACORN is a low income lobby and organizing group. They've helped force gas companies to quit redlining poor districts, went after predator lending (same sort of lending that brought on the housing collapse.)

And finally, it is not the job of voter registration groups to check names. That is the legal job of the Supervisors of Elections and nobody's voting twice.

Why didn't all you people who've suddenly become concerned with voter fraud stand up when over four thousand votes went to Bush from a county of over 600 in '04? Right, voter frauds not a problem when your side practices it.

Elliot   November 4th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

This is the same ACORN McCain addressed in 2006, congratulating them on a job well done and highlighting their cause, correct? How partisan can they be?

California Gold   November 4th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

I don't have a qualm with a funding organization ensuring a recipient organization isn't involved with shenanigans. People donate to non-profits every year and you can bet donations will dwindle if there is any aire of impropriety. What I will be looking for is the outcome and resolution.

Mike (Philly)   November 4th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

What did you expect to hear from ACORN's PR people ? Rather than admit that they have a problem they would prefer to blame someone else. Time to take responsibility and for the patient to admit themselves into the twelve step program.

angie in dallas 28   November 4th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

4 hours to go!!!

Skysaw   November 4th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Aimee –
Why, because they dropped support for ACORN, or because they supported them in the first place? Your comment is a somewhat humorous non-sequitur until that is resolved..

Lisa P   November 4th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

ACORN has done some good work in the past with some very underserved (to use the favorite euphemism) populations. It's unfortunate that they are having some problems now and that one side is exaggerating those problems and keeping them in the headlines for purely partisan reasons. This story is a prime example — talk about kicking a group when it's down! Let ACORN and the Catholic Church work out their own problems without the free-form mockery from an unhelpful bystander.

jake747   November 4th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

I will be waiting for 1 single piece of evidence of VOTER FRAUD committed by ACORN. The FBI will find nothing. What ACORN has done is hired lots of low skilled workers to meet registration quotas. So, they fill out bogus forms. That's about it. Those registration forms MUST be turned in, by law. ACORN has pointed out problemed forms themselves. The only way it amounts to VOTER FRAUD, is if that card to Mickey Mouse actually gets issued, then Mickey Mouse actually votes. This is nonsense and overblown. ACORN poses no threat. Just wasted paper. Just watch when the FBI issues a report.

tekjannsen76   November 4th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Dung Heap Griffin, when have you shown or demonstrated in your dung heaping investigation anything done wrong by the organization as a whole? The folks that have participated in any wrong doing certainly deserve your unwanted attention and your undilligent skills. You and them are the worst things about America. Hopefully either Obama or god forbid McCain will set about to fix things enough so we no longer have to endure your garbage Dung Heap. You can't even give us the whole picture Heap. I am sure TMZ could use another sleazy "reporter" on their team. Why don't you take you lack of skills there.

Mel Springfield, Oregon   November 4th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Acorn is like unions, they were a good idea once upon a time but they have outlived their purpose and are corrupt.
Get rid of them!

Tim   November 4th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

You know, you would think if you took the time to voice your opinion on an open forum, you would also take the time to research what the heck you are talking about. Look into voter fraud a little bit. Just because Jesus Christ registered to vote doesn't mean he will show up to vote.

Young Voter   November 4th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

So, to be honest I have been telling everyone I am going to vote Obama, but I just couldnt do it when it came time to vote. should I feel guilty?

Cary   November 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

I don't think this would have happened if Wade Rathke's brother hadn't embezzled about $1 million from ACORN which staff decided to hide from the Board. That's what is meant by lack of transparency. It's was a grievous error judgment on ACORN's management's part and now they're paying the price.

Truth   November 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

You people know nothing about Acorn when you speak ill of it. You know nothing about how voter registration is performed and checked for fraud. You people are ignorant sheep bleating about a wolf when it is really another one of you as the real wolf sneaks up behind you.

Joe   November 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Aimee, That is the most ignorant comment I've ever heard come out of anyone's mouth. "another reason why I'm no longer Catholic"
gimme a break!

Gabe   November 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

The tax exemption for Religious groups are for their not-for-profit nature.

Bob   November 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Which is worse: registering as many people as possible, sometimes questionably, or creating fake felon lists to exclude law-abiding minorities from voting? I think the latter is far worse, but do you see any Republican Secretaries of State going to jail for doing so?

Peter (CA)   November 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

And the right wingers continue to foam at the mouth,

Investigate ACORN and see if any charges actually stick. So far, it is all innuendo and right wing spewing of distortions.

If you want to see real voter fraud, look up YPM and the Lincoln Starategy, two groups who were paid for registering Republicans only. They signed up voters who said they were Democrats as Republicans and they destroyed other registrations of Democrats.

Clarice   November 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

What a waste of time. The ACORN mess presented no threat to the election. The Dallas Cowboys could NOT show up to vote in Nevada. The group itself turned over the false registrations to officials. Come on, people! There are real problems to deal with!

Tiff of lithia springs   November 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

IF SOMEONE IS VOTING TWICE THAT IS THE SECRETARY OF STATE FAULT OR WHATEVER BRANCE OF STATE GOV THAT IS RESPONSIBLE.

SURELY THERE IS A WAY TO CROSS REFERANCE VOTING ACTIVITY.

SOME PEOPLE VOTE TWICE WHILE OTHER PEOPLES NAMES ARE GETTING PURGED WHEN THEY VOTED 6 MONTHS AGO IN THE PRIMARIES. ESPECIALLY IN PA AND OH. SOMETHING IS FISHY.

Steve B   November 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

OBAMA
WRIGHT
AYERS
ACORN

connect the dots

Dave   November 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Ah, more on the manufactured ACORN controversy.

Marlene   November 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

I wish someone would explain the "tax exempt status" and rules. When I lived in the DC area, Bill Clinton and other democrats were frequently on the evening news as they gave political speeches from pulpits in African American churches and no one ever questioned it.

Mike   November 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

I'm still confused by this – how does registering the Dallas Cowboys and Mickey Mouse make you a supporter of one candidate over another? Or is this just because they register poor urban people who happen to be the same skin color as one of the two candidates? If that's the case, would they be supporting the other candidate if they were registering poor white folks? This whole topic is ridiculous.

Kel   November 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

I see that the media is trying to divide the great thing that Obama has created over this campaign. I see people of all ages, races, and ideals talking electric about politics and life and working together to fix the real problems of this country. It's not just money, when we all stop putting race, sex, and our differences in the front of our minds, but a person's ideals we can be great, we can change, VOTE FOR CHANGE Vote OBAMA

Donkey Party   November 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

USA Voter November 4th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

I don't think the election should be over until the ACORN mess is resolved. If in fact, one person voted more than once, where is the correctness in that? I'd love to vote more than once, but know that it's not legal and it's unfair.
======================================================

For the love of God people, educate yourselves. ACORN only registers voters. If someone is able to vote twice, it's of no fault of ACORN, but of the voting precint that didn't check their rolls properly.

bhogan   November 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Oh that ACORN! They are bad bad bad and it is only a matter of time before the Batman and his sidekick bring them down.

BTW can someone remind me how a fictional or dead person can actually cast a vote?

Barbara in NC   November 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

They registered voters – they didn't illegally submit votes.

Mark   November 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Why not do a story about how ACORN is planting voters in incorrect polling places, which happen to be traditional GOP strongholds, just to hold up lines for hours. I was in line today when such a person held up our polling for 45 minutes; he barely spoke English, and was not at the correct polling place but would not give the polling workers his address so they could help him go to the correct polling place.

Finally, when he finished his Obama/ACORN duties, he left. Didn't vote obviously, but held up our line awhile. I guess when his antics didn't turn away any of us voters, he figured he would leave and most likely when to another 'incorrect' polling place.

This is a sad, sad day in our proud country's history. Let's hope these next four years fly by fast so we can shove Obama out of office and back where he came from!!

MD voter   November 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

all this goes to prove is that there needs to be a centralized way to register and manage to voter, but i'm guessin' that wouldn't be very popular with certain folks…

just because ACORN registered them, doesn't mean they vote and automatically be democrats either.

BT   November 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

"don't think the election should be over until the ACORN mess is resolved. If in fact, one person voted more than once, where is the correctness in that? I'd love to vote more than once, but know that it's not legal and it's unfair"

educate yourself you sound dumb. so much more fraud occurs then this. like people sending out letters telling people election day is wed or election officials trying to supress the vote its all wrong but if you must comment on this issue, comment on all of the illegal activity in this election on all sides.

turn az blue   November 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

I am Catholic, and this just shows how religious institutions should not be involved with voting.

The Prophete   November 4th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Their candidate is losing no wonder.

Ben   November 4th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Yeah, Republicans have lots of room to talk after the mess in Florida a few years ago. Much like the $400 hair cut which was outrageous but when Palin spent 5 times that on her hair it was OK.

Tyler   November 4th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

If ACORN was harming Nobama's campaign, CNN would have had a different story on it every day just like the "Palin Troopergate". To be honest, I've never had a problem with CNN prior to the past few months. You were my go-to for news.

However, the bias is just too dang much. You guys stink. Fox News leans conservative but at least they report the other side. CNN sucks.

Jarhead   November 4th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

With all the accusations of voter repression against the Republicans, have to wonder why the news media ( including ONN Obama News Network) has not been more diligent in reporting on ACORN. Could it be that because The Annointed One wrote ACORN a check for $800,000 dollars? Or that he once worked for and with ACORN??? Have to wonder why ACORN is under federal investigation in eleven different states.

Chicago   November 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Whomever is doing it and for whatever reason we must root out and prosecute voter fraud.
The key to democracy is one person, one vote.
With suspicion about voter fraud comes suspicion and close-mindedness about the issues.
ACORN had some legitimate issues.
They are all watered down now because of their horrible practices.

John   November 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

>> The onlt thing lacking in this election is Marshall Law and chances are that is comming!

Marshall Law? I didn't see him on the ballot.

Ohhhh…you mean martial law?

contothecore   November 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

The rest of us are happy to hear of your decision.

Reality Check Richmond Virginia   November 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

this is all so over blown. people who don't exist can't vote…..plain and simple. its not physically possible and doesn't rise to the level of the actuall voter suppression that the GOP engages in.

Anonymous   November 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

They allow child molestation and question voter REGISTRATION?

John   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Irritating to me that so many people on this site do not understand the ACORN debacle (probably becuase of the stilted CNN reporting). The problem was that ACORN was processing bogus voter REGISTRATIONS because they were paid according to the number of registrations. There is no suggestion (and little posiibility) of actual voting fraud (i.e., Mickey Mouse showing up to vote). These were bogus registrations done by people interested in making money, not in voting several times.

Valentin - Phoenix, AZ   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Good!! I hope they rip apart ACORN!!

Charlie   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Is the Catholic church a chrch or a corporation? Maybe they should save some of the mone they give to ACORN and pay the kids the molest!!!

Shea   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

A lobbiest group just like Big Oil?? Ummm, Big Oil HAS a lobbying arm but they are chiefly responsible for finding, producing, transporting and refining the stuff that powers the entire world. ACORN just registers fake voters. Not a real good comparison there.

Rob   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

ACORN is an illegal organization that does its best to steal elections for who they want. One can only hope that enough sensible people vote, the best candidate wins (McCain) and this group is disbanded.

But here's something for all of you who are thinking that an Obama win will instantly usher in world peace – watch the riots tonight in Chicago. They'll right if Barry loses (one can only hope), but they'll also riot if he wins, because the morons that voted for him will start to destroy busniesses demanding 'their share'. Think I'm wrong? Talk to me in 24 hours, while they're cleaning up the mess.

And talk about ego! Having a celebration in Grant Park. If the dolt wins the first thing they'll have to do is widen all the doorways to fit his fat head.

Who says history doesn't repeat. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Wonder what Obama will do while America burns? Play some b-ball?

jude   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Ellen in Ohio, does that mean you want to de-fund the Justice Department?
How about we think through the ACORN and other Voting issues in a slightly less hatchet-like way? The tar-and-feathers approach is just unhelpful.

Marge   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

About time they started to crack down on this crooked organizations. Now go after the crooked politicans, guess who, that are running them, or have ran them.

Anonymous   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

I'm catholic and proud of it. This has nothing to do with the church.
This was a group trying to get illegal votes for Obama so he can be elected president. Wait until the government turns socialist. Let's see how you will like it then!!!!!!!1

Tiff of lithia springs   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Well as a democrat I say they need to get their house in order. When you have either corruption or laxed oversight of your operation these are the consequences you have to deal with.

ACORN CLEAN HOUSE!!!!!

john   November 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

GO HILLARY IN 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republican Commentors Miss the Point Again.   November 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

You see ACORN are see red because they're *gasp* registering low income voters…voters who don't seem to like the big corporations very much!

OH NOES!

ACORN has done absolutely nothing wrong with them. McCain befriended them in 2006, and if Obama's connected to them, all it means is good. Getting the downtrodden to the polls is a GOOD thing, unless you're on the side of big corporations.

So props to the Catholic Church for saying they're not cowing to the hatchet job done by the Republican. Christ befriended the POOR not the RICH.

"It will be harder for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than it will be for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Rave   November 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

You should have seen the phone interview with Joe the Scum_bag on CNN. The guy doesn't even make a 3 figure salary, he is not licensed plumber, he owes money to IRS, he owes money to hospitals (unpaid bills), he has no money to buy a business …. Yet he is concerned about taxing people making over $250,000.
He was mad at CNN for asking those questions, but yet he can say whatever he wants about Obama and endorse McCain in public.
That was the best (straight talk) interview , I watched in recent days.
Good Job CNN, shutdown these fake people (McCain's plants)
Anyway now the election is over and OBAMA will win 338 / 200 ..with a possibility of more than 338 electoral votes. 338 GAURANTEED.
Hats Off to you and your campaign Sir.. President Barack Obama ..an Icon for American Hope and Future.
McCain, it is time – you start your mourning ceremony with Palin the pig, Joe the scum_bag, Cheney the robb_er, Bush the Barbarian. YOU GUYS ARE FIRED.

irish   November 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Obama's hands are filthey dirty with this organization , but you sheep following him anyway. He's part of the problem. They interviewed a guy from Philadelphia this morning and he said that when he got to the voting lines he left and came back. He said he had to vote a couple of times. The reporters were pretty uncomfortable trying to correct that one. And it was CNN.

Ben   November 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

In 8 years W ran our country to the verge of another great depression, 4 more years of the same, who would vote for that? The lesser of two evils is Obama, like him or not he is your President at the end of today.

Gmoney   November 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

"The only tax exempt houses of worship after Nov. 4 will be mosques."

Ignorant, fear-mongering, and just flat-out wrong.

You do the honorable candidate who you support a disservice.

John   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Religion, The best business to get into!

CanIcallyouJoe   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

I *literally* just now got back from voting (Obama btw. Suck it Reps.)
Anyways, I used the electronic voting machine again this year… and the one I was at, and the one next to it, NEITHER were printing a paper trail for the selections. I had the people change out the drums and everything, and they said it must have been happening ALL MORNING!!

This even happened in the primaries earlier when I voted for Obama and it showed up as Mitt Romney…. "somehow".

I am on the phone with Election Protection as I type this.

Wow. Election reform. NOW.

I am 23, and am tired of having my voice silenced. It is my generation that has to die for the profit of politicians after all.

Red, Red WHINE!!   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

It certainly seems that the journalist here has a very biased opinion. Very amateur for such an article to be published which is so BLAZINGLY biased that it makes a mockery of Journalism.

For shame on the editors in particular, they should know better then to allow such childish writings be posted.

Mike in NYC   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Though self-interest is certainly a contributing factor here, I applaud the Church's action in this case.

I wonder why the Church would have supported a group like ACORN in the first place. It's not like they've done anything to benefit traditional urban Catholic communities. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Zeppo   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Hey David Lopez,

The economy is in the toilet because in 2000 before Bush, bucket shops were reopened on Wall Street. Voted for unanimously by the Senate and singed by Clinton.

Bucket Shops were banned after the market crash of 1907, they allow wall street to bet on anything and everything without investing anything.

The housing market blew up because Democrats in Congress and ACORN I might add pressured banks to hand out loans to anyone wearing shoes.

Thats why a two bedroom house is going for a half a million in most states.

tom   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

religion==republican—-the two evils in this nation

Cam   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Both Drew Griffin and Lou Dobbs should be immediately fired for their irresponsible and republican-biased journalism regarding ACORN.

Why isn't Drew Griffin doing a simultaneous story on the GOP voter suppression scandals going on?

I personally think Drew Griffin and Lou Dobbs should publicly apologize to ACORN as there is no evidence of widespread fraud or corruption as they have blatantly accused.

Zeppo   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Hey David Lopez,

The economy is in the toilet because in 2000 before Bush, bucket shops were reopened on Wall Street. Voted for unanimously by the Senate and singed by Clinton.

Bucket Shops were banned after the market crash of 1907, they allow wall street to bet on anything and everything without investing anything.

The housing market blew up because Democrats in Congress and ACORN I might add pressured banks to hand out loans to anyone wearing shoes.

Thats why a two bedroom house is going for a half a million in most states.

The Prophecy Fullfilled   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Never doubt the Bible again… It is really happening here and now:

.. “And in the land shall rise the son of Cain” From the north The Deceiver[Palin] a known Beast of false witness, will take the mark of Cain.
Together they seek to spread fear and invoke hate among the refugees of sin.
In their quest for power they will ignore the light of truth shining on the deeds and words they proclaim.
But take heart, for throughout the land the seekers of light shall rise up and not be fooled. With their strength, the mark [Cain] will be cleansed from the earth and no longer hold power to sway the blind.
Can I get an amen…? :)

john   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

I am sure these are well-meaning people who genuinely believe in what they are doing; just like all practioners of the enabling arts.

A. L. Flanagan   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

You know, for all the heat and light on this ACORN thing, there's shockingly little to the story. Some registrars turned in bad names/addresses? That has to happen to every voter registration organization. And the law in many states says ACORN has to turn in the registrations even if they KNOW they're invalid. Nobody has shown even one case where the problems actually would result in an actual fraudulent vote.

Zeppo   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Hey David Lopez,

The economy is in the toilet because in 2000 before Bush, bucket shops were reopened on Wall Street. Voted for unanimously by the Senate and singed by Clinton.

Bucket Shops were banned after the market crash of 1907, they allow wall street to bet on anything and everything without investing anything.

The housing market blew up because Democrats in Congress and ACORN I might add pressured banks to hand out loans to anyone wearing shoes.

Thats why a two bedroom house is going for a half a million in most states.

Chapman   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

With real verifiable accounts of Republican fraud & dirty tricks running rampant this is what CNN puts up??? Those "Dallas Cowboys" ballotts were marked as fraudulant. You know it. The agents who raided know it. Election officials know it. Meanwhile McCain "volunteers" who were representing themselves as such & even signed non disclosure agreements in order to be paid for their work have been exposed as frauds & the MSM goes silent???
You people are insuring your own obscurity as we speak.

Anonymous   November 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

The Democratic congress has 'run the economy into to dirt', with help from Billy boy Clinton who practically forced the banks to give loans to folks who could not afford them. What's really funny is how now that it's too late for the election – you will probably see a lot more honest reporting about ACORN, and many other problems in this country – from such news media like CNN and nearly every other news organization in this country. Obama is not only a Socialist – he borders on being a dictator.

Stephen M   November 4th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

So the Catholic bishops set it up so that all their members are supposed to vote Republican or go to hell (because driving abortion underground is more important than fighting the death penalty, or overseas wars, or poverty, or anything else), but they object to ACORN being partisan?

Hate Church   November 4th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Good, they should use that money to give to families that were wronged by their Pedophiles.

We Are All Real Americans   November 4th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

I don't agree with any of the smears about them, but ACORN has indeed shown itself to be exceedingly sloppy in its methods or the registration problems would not have been so widespread. I wouldn't fund them either, at least not without a major overhaul.

John   November 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Religion, The best business to get into!

Red, Red WHINE!!   November 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

It certainly seems that the journalist here has a very biased opinion. Very amateur for such an article to be published which is so BLAZINGLY biased that it makes a mockery of Journalism.

For shame on the editors in particular, they should know better then to allow such childish writings be posted.

We Are All Real Americans   November 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

I don't agree with any of the smears about them, but ACORN has indeed shown itself to be exceedingly sloppy in its methods or the registration problems would not have been so widespread. I wouldn't fund them either, at least not without a major overhaul.

Hate Church   November 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Good, they should use that money to give to families that were wronged by their Pedophiles.

The Prophecy Fullfilled   November 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Never doubt the Bible again… It is really happening here and now:

.. “And in the land shall rise the son of Cain” From the north The Deceiver[Palin] a known Beast of false witness, will take the mark of Cain.
Together they seek to spread fear and invoke hate among the refugees of sin.
In their quest for power they will ignore the light of truth shining on the deeds and words they proclaim.
But take heart, for throughout the land the seekers of light shall rise up and not be fooled. With their strength, the mark [Cain] will be cleansed from the earth and no longer hold power to sway the blind.
Can I get an amen…? :)

USA   November 4th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Thank you, very pleased to have been read, and to make certain conclusions.

Brian   November 4th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Aimee I would love to know why you think this is bad press for Catholics. I am proud of the church for staying away from the political arena when it comes to a corrupt organization such as ACORN.

Eric C   November 4th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

That the Catholic Church is just now figuring out that they have been supporting a Godless organization that has been designed and structured to subvert Constitutional freedom by fraudulently registering primarily (if not only) one party's voters is not surprising.

Jillian   November 4th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

In the 19th century the Catholic Church was frequently accused of trying to corrupt the Republic and steal the White House.Now ACORN has actually been doing it, and with Church funds.Hmmmmmm

T   November 4th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

A Democratic Congress ran our economy into the ground. And we're just going to fill it up with more of those morons…. who avoid all responsibility for it.

Mickie   November 4th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Like the Catholic Church hasn't been influencing voting for their choice candidate in every election either with providing money or tellling their followers they will go to "H" if they vote for the other candidate. Their tax exempt status should have been removed ages ago.

Chris Hatton   November 4th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Just another reason to become a Catholic. Acorn registered me and I've voted 10 times today. GO Bama Regards the PLO

John   November 4th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Just another reason I don't give money at church, it can end up anywhere. I am sure these are all well-meaning people, like all practioners of the enabling arts.

NJ   November 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

ACORN DOESN'T MERIT ANY FEDERAL OR PRIVATE FUNDING.

TAKE ALL FUNDING AWAY, SO WE CAN GET RID OF THESE

MAGGOTS THAT CALL THEMSELVES MINORITY REFORMERS.

Mitch   November 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

@Aimee:

You're no longer Catholic because they oppose voter fraud?

That's… quite odd.

Obama is the Messiah   November 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

It's about time this is ended. Here and now. I would have liked to have these people prosecuted, but highly unlikely since the party that will be in power subsidized and organized this group of cheaters, liars and law breakers.

The chickens will come home to roost..

Donkey Party   November 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

If the RepubliCONS wouldn't engage in voter intimidation and voter suppression, there wouldn't be any need for groups like ACORN.

Thomas   November 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

I'm so looking forward to sanity returning to this country. CCHD shouldn't be making funding decisions based on the latest Fox News cycle.

Jon   November 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Really? A reason to change your religion is because they stop monitarily supporting a bunch of people likely going to jail over election fraud?

Michel   November 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

I trust the catholic church little with their untrustworthy decisions.
I for one quit funding the church.

NO MORE TAXES   November 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

The only tax exempt houses of worship after Nov. 4 will be mosques.

Splurge   November 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

What? ACORN supports Obama? You're kidding. I'm shocked. CNN has done several stories on ACORN and were never able to speak to this alleged connection. Now who will do a study to determine the one-sided election coverage by CNN? CNN?

Janet, American Abroad   November 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

All religious establishments should pay taxes and not have any special attachments. It doesn't matter what religious group they are. Its about time we stop this pandering to them, in giving them tax exempts and make a single school system for all students.

jrzshor   November 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

beyond the voter registration fraud, didn't one of the family owners/founders steal a million dollars or more?

jrzshor   November 4th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

beyond all the politica stuff and the voter registration fraud, didn't one of the family owners/founders steal a million dollars?

Rave   November 4th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Get Lost and Get a Life..
If not for Organisations like ACORN, even half the people who voted in this election , may not have got a chance to VOTE.
Then , like 2000 Election – President Bush and his Brother Jeb and Uncle Cheney , Sidekick McCain along with Alaska Independence party leader Palin would have clearly rigged this election
YOU GUYS ARE DONE. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT NOW>
OBAMA IS THE HONORABLE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (2008 -16).
And, as I have been saying for past several months – He will be loved not only by Americans , but the Entire world and he will be named one of the best President in United States History.

maurice   November 4th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

they say s@%& rolls down hill. i wonder how many heads will be on the chopping block next year. i believe acorn is nothing more than a lobbiest group just like big oil. its time to clean out all of the trash. and start with fresh new people to run this country and not a bunch of lawyers .

Bryan   November 4th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

just another example of the destruction that ACORN has left in its path as it abuses the electoral process in this country.

David Lopez   November 4th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

If the Republicans have run our economy into the dirt, how can anyone consider voting republican and expect our economy to improve? I may not be in the upper echelon income bracket, but even if I were, I would have to seriously consider voting for Obama. Oh, I already have…hehe.

Darrel from Denver   November 4th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

The Religious Right throwing a tantrum at the command of the Republican party leaders, would be my guess.

ACORN has done nothing wrong, other than to piss off the Republicans. Tilting elections in their direction is their domain and no one elses, it would appear.

Whiners and losers, the lot of them. I am glad I left them this year after 36 years supporting their party. I can't believe I was that stupid.

Ellen in Ohio   November 4th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

I hope ACORN loses their tax exempt status immediately. I don't want my tax dollars supporting a partisan organization.

Paul   November 4th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

The onlt thing lacking in this election is Marshall Law and chances are that is comming!

Mary, Dallas, Texas   November 4th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

The first problem named doesn't seem to be a problem. If they were worried about their tax exempt status, then the bishop would not have asked catholics to vote for McCain.

It would be so nice if people told the truth and shamed the devil.

Proud Republican   November 4th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Obama is a staunch supporter of Acorn. He has been since 1994 when he first voted to fund them with millions of dollars. To this date inspite of what the dems want you to hear Obama is still a big supporter of Acorn. This has been investigated and confirmed. Incidently the Mortgagae crisis began in 1968 with Acorn pushing to give motrgages to minorities that had no businesas getting them. This is what Obama is all about so folks get ready becuse the rollar coaster ride is about to take a major plunge over the next couple of years should the Obama be elected.

JACK   November 4th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

I'm surprised they had anything to donate to ACORN …..after settling all the long over-due little boy rape cases they had to payoff.

Musicpromo Glandale Ca   November 4th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Who cares beside the folks at acorn and the CCHD? Sounds like you missing the big story of the day.?

Deb in Colo   November 4th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

I find it odd that the Catholic Church is worried about their tax exempt status, when they are an actual church.

On the other hand, Focus on the Family, is not a church but a PAC and they're not worried about their status.

Concerned INDEPENDENT CT voter   November 4th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Slash & Burn the little Guy… that's the GOP way… You have to wrestle-away power from their dead hand I guess!

-V

THE END OF AMERICA by OBAMA   November 4th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Acorn is a dishonest ripoff and should not receive money from anyone.
AMERICA WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN!! WRITE TO EVERYONE THAT COUNTS.
obama needs to choke on acorn.

USA Voter   November 4th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

I don't think the election should be over until the ACORN mess is resolved. If in fact, one person voted more than once, where is the correctness in that? I'd love to vote more than once, but know that it's not legal and it's unfair.

Aimee   November 4th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Just another reason I'm no longer a Catholic.

Michael in Houston   November 4th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Wow and the Repubs are already crying foul. So what! The guy was there legally and is doing his job. He didn't tell anyone to leave, he didn't verbally threaten anyone. Wow and you called the Dems Crybabies in 2000? Just admit it, you are mad because a African American will be named President elect in about errrr 5 hours and it makes you sick. Now for all of you Obama haters on here, I have been trying to help you with your adjustment all day, so let's try this again. Ready? 1………………..2……………..3…………..President Obama. No deep breath……………..good now relax…………….see, you feel better already. You betcha (wink)

Michael Bush

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