Comments on: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mello in New Mexico http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057881 Mello in New Mexico Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:20:24 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057881 I just do not understand why, considering all of the problems in the world, that there continues to be those who feel that they have to legislate the morality of others. Why not just let people live out their lives in peace? Gay marriage is just not a big deal. People need to get over it. I just do not understand why, considering all of the problems in the world, that there continues to be those who feel that they have to legislate the morality of others. Why not just let people live out their lives in peace? Gay marriage is just not a big deal. People need to get over it.

]]> By: Jonathan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057875 Jonathan Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:20:03 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057875 This is ridiculous. Some things should not be on the ballot and Prop 8 is one of them. People have no right to tell other people who to love or how legal that love is. It looks like the bigoted, conservative bastion wins another one. Well, at least Obama was elected I guess. This is ridiculous. Some things should not be on the ballot and Prop 8 is one of them. People have no right to tell other people who to love or how legal that love is. It looks like the bigoted, conservative bastion wins another one. Well, at least Obama was elected I guess.

]]> By: DeRon Jordan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057872 DeRon Jordan Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:19:51 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057872 Please help me understand something... why is that when a state votes to allow gay marriage it becomes simply that...an allowance, almost like a verbal agreement with very little staying power. But when a state changes its mind later, at that point THEN the extra effort is made to write it into the state constitution and make it much harder for the initiative to be changed back. I'm simply saying be equitable in how voting measures are treated. In both cases the people go out and vote their opinion but in only one instance is the process followed through to completion. To be fair and equal, if a state will take the time to write a "NO" into the constitution, then they should have taken the time to write the "YES" in as well. A "yes" on gay marriage deserves the same difficulty to change by involving a change in the state constitution as a "no" does. If we allowed the states to do this on other issues such as suffrage and segregation, we'd constantly have inequality in the nation every election year. Thankfully, the federal government stepped in and made sure this wouldn't be the case. But for now and most likely for years to come this is precisely how this issue will be treated... decided by whichever way the wind blows. No matter how one feels on the issue, you should be able to see how this is skewed. Please help me understand something... why is that when a state votes to allow gay marriage it becomes simply that...an allowance, almost like a verbal agreement with very little staying power. But when a state changes its mind later, at that point THEN the extra effort is made to write it into the state constitution and make it much harder for the initiative to be changed back.

I'm simply saying be equitable in how voting measures are treated. In both cases the people go out and vote their opinion but in only one instance is the process followed through to completion.

To be fair and equal, if a state will take the time to write a "NO" into the constitution, then they should have taken the time to write the "YES" in as well. A "yes" on gay marriage deserves the same difficulty to change by involving a change in the state constitution as a "no" does.

If we allowed the states to do this on other issues such as suffrage and segregation, we'd constantly have inequality in the nation every election year. Thankfully, the federal government stepped in and made sure this wouldn't be the case. But for now and most likely for years to come this is precisely how this issue will be treated... decided by whichever way the wind blows.

No matter how one feels on the issue, you should be able to see how this is skewed.

]]> By: Sean, Santa Barbara http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057869 Sean, Santa Barbara Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:19:37 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057869 As much as I support the ammendment, I just couldn't bring myslef to vote along side the crazy religious right... I voted No As much as I support the ammendment, I just couldn't bring myslef to vote along side the crazy religious right... I voted No

]]> By: BeHeardVote http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057862 BeHeardVote Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:19:15 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057862 It is very humbling to participate in the celebration of Barack Obama's election, all the while knowing that my fellow citizens have voted to keep me unequal to them - a move that gives them no tangible benefit, yet changes my life immeasurably. If you are not gay and reading this, have you ever had to walk through your own neighborhood and see signs on neighbor's lawns showing not their attack on a tax bill that you support, but an attack on you, a human being? What if I posted a sign that read "Stop the marriage of people who have blue eyes!" Would I not be seen as the ridiculous bigot that I wa? How can it be that such an overwhelming demand for positive change still comes at the expense of anyone that we can still label as "other"? It is very humbling to participate in the celebration of Barack Obama's election, all the while knowing that my fellow citizens have voted to keep me unequal to them – a move that gives them no tangible benefit, yet changes my life immeasurably. If you are not gay and reading this, have you ever had to walk through your own neighborhood and see signs on neighbor's lawns showing not their attack on a tax bill that you support, but an attack on you, a human being? What if I posted a sign that read "Stop the marriage of people who have blue eyes!" Would I not be seen as the ridiculous bigot that I wa? How can it be that such an overwhelming demand for positive change still comes at the expense of anyone that we can still label as "other"?

]]> By: William Cox http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057855 William Cox Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:19:06 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057855 If not today, then someday we will all have the right to marry whom we choose. I'm glad that the President Elect said that gay and straight spoke the answer. If not today, then someday we will all have the right to marry whom we choose. I'm glad that the President Elect said that gay and straight spoke the answer.

]]> By: David http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057849 David Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:18:48 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057849 Um, Why on earth would anyone oppose gay marriage unless they were bigoted. How could two people getting married ever effect you. Its all you straight people in loveless marriages. Your so miserable and you get no pleasure out of it and the only thing you have that you think makes you straight or normal is the fact that your married. You think that if gay people can get married then it strips away your special status. So cmon. Think about it. Does it really matter at all whether gay people can get married. Um,

Why on earth would anyone oppose gay marriage unless they were bigoted. How could two people getting married ever effect you.

Its all you straight people in loveless marriages. Your so miserable and you get no pleasure out of it and the only thing you have that you think makes you straight or normal is the fact that your married.

You think that if gay people can get married then it strips away your special status.

So cmon. Think about it. Does it really matter at all whether gay people can get married.

]]> By: AKP http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057838 AKP Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:18:15 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057838 What century are we living in? PUHLEESE! It's none of our business who marries whom. What century are we living in? PUHLEESE! It's none of our business who marries whom.

]]> By: back to the closet http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057836 back to the closet Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:18:12 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057836 "African-Americans voted for the measure by a 69 percent to 31 percent margin." You would think that African-Americans, given the history of bigotry in this country, would know better. I guess, in the end, bigotry DOES come in all colors. Sad, Sad, Sad "African-Americans voted for the measure by a 69 percent to 31 percent
margin." You would think that African-Americans, given the history of bigotry in this country, would know better. I guess, in the end, bigotry DOES come in all colors. Sad, Sad, Sad

]]> By: THE US OF WHAT? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057827 THE US OF WHAT? Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:17:53 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057827 These Propositions are to confusing and know I mean know one adrressed them not even CNN. So when average people go vote the wording is so coonfusing you don't know if yes means yes for the proposition or no. Its just too confusing period. These Propositions are to confusing and know I mean know one adrressed them not even CNN. So when average people go vote the wording is so coonfusing you don't know if yes means yes for the proposition or no.

Its just too confusing period.

]]> By: Amy http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057825 Amy Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:17:50 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057825 Can someone explain to me why people who aren't gay care at all about whether gay people get married, let alone care enough to take that right away from them? I'm at a loss. Can someone explain to me why people who aren't gay care at all about whether gay people get married, let alone care enough to take that right away from them? I'm at a loss.

]]> By: Jake http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057824 Jake Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:17:48 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057824 ya this is a no brainer, God intended marriage to be between a man and a women. Nowhere does it say in the Bible that gay marriage is ok. It has always been intended for male and female, not same sex. Opposites attract, thats it. ya this is a no brainer, God intended marriage to be between a man and a women. Nowhere does it say in the Bible that gay marriage is ok. It has always been intended for male and female, not same sex. Opposites attract, thats it.

]]> By: Rodney Lester http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057820 Rodney Lester Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:17:40 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057820 This is to all those who voted against gay marriage in all the states: IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! What a concept? This is to all those who voted against gay marriage in all the states: IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! What a concept?

]]> By: Kim http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057819 Kim Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:17:34 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057819 God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Our anatomy works together for a reason! God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Our anatomy works together for a reason!

]]> By: scott http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057814 scott Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:17:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057814 I'm keeping my fingers crossed it fails. I live in upstate NY. I live alone. I'm not marrried. I'm gay. I'm miserabel and want to find someone special and get married. I'm also 54. I've lived most of my life in the closet. How can a state that voted a man as good as Obama into the office of President of These United States also vote for such descrimination? It makes me so sad. I'm keeping my fingers crossed it fails.
I live in upstate NY. I live alone. I'm not marrried. I'm gay. I'm miserabel and want to find someone special and get married. I'm also 54. I've lived most of my life in the closet. How can a state that voted a man as good as Obama into the office of President of These United States also vote for such descrimination? It makes me so sad.

]]> By: Chris http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057799 Chris Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:16:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057799 People's private life has nothing to do with what is going on in this country People's private life has nothing to do with what is going on in this country

]]> By: Dave http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057798 Dave Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:15:59 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057798 Still so far to go. Still so far to go.

]]> By: Jim Capps http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057790 Jim Capps Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:15:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057790 It's stunning to me that African-Americans would vote to eliminate a civil right that already exists. Would they also vote to ban inter-racial marriage? If so, then who could President-elect Barack Obama marry? He's half-white, so he couldn't marry a black woman, and since he's half-black, he couldn't marry a white woman. It's just stunning in its stupidity. It's stunning to me that African-Americans would vote to eliminate a civil right that already exists. Would they also vote to ban inter-racial marriage? If so, then who could President-elect Barack Obama marry? He's half-white, so he couldn't marry a black woman, and since he's half-black, he couldn't marry a white woman. It's just stunning in its stupidity.

]]> By: Ann http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057787 Ann Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:15:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057787 The percentage of African-American voters that voted FOR Prop 8 is astonishing to me. You would think that a group of people that have suffered from so much injustice in their lives would not want others to face the same fate. Just so you know, you have voted FOR prejudice and discrimination. The percentage of African-American voters that voted FOR Prop 8 is astonishing to me. You would think that a group of people that have suffered from so much injustice in their lives would not want others to face the same fate. Just so you know, you have voted FOR prejudice and discrimination.

]]> By: Greg in MN http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057780 Greg in MN Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:14:32 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057780 Why can't people just let other people be happy and get married if they want? I just don't get the push back on this issue. The biggest threat to marriage, as I see it, is divorce. So why don't you ultra-religious folks try to ban that instead? Yeah, good luck with that one! Why can't people just let other people be happy and get married if they want? I just don't get the push back on this issue.

The biggest threat to marriage, as I see it, is divorce. So why don't you ultra-religious folks try to ban that instead? Yeah, good luck with that one!

]]> By: Joanna http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057772 Joanna Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:14:22 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057772 I will never understand why two people would be denied the opportunity to make a life long commitment to each other. I understand that the word "marriage"is a religious right and is not determined by any government. But Why not civil unions that carry the same rights as a marriage. With traditional marriages failing in high numbers, why deny people there happiness if they can find it? I will never understand why two people would be denied the opportunity to make a life long commitment to each other. I understand that the word "marriage"is a religious right and is not determined by any government. But Why not civil unions that carry the same rights as a marriage. With traditional marriages failing in high numbers, why deny people there happiness if they can find it?

]]> By: Ivan Sanchez http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057745 Ivan Sanchez Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:13:22 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057745 Thank God our prayers have been anwered; we now see the begining of a new day! Thank God our prayers have been anwered; we now see the begining of a new day!

]]> By: Roy - IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057738 Roy - IL Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:13:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057738 It is a sad day when people who 'go to church' do not have the capacity to allow two people to care for each other, no matter who those two people are. Look in the mirror and ask youself if the Diety you worship asked you to enforce the universal Love they promised by exclusion, intimidation, and bigotry. The emergence of the 'bully political pulpit' in this country is appalling. Religious teachers who think religion is exclusively Republican are sorely mistaken and misguided. It is a sad day when people who 'go to church' do not have the capacity to allow two people to care for each other, no matter who those two people are. Look in the mirror and ask youself if the Diety you worship asked you to enforce the universal Love they promised by exclusion, intimidation, and bigotry. The emergence of the 'bully political pulpit' in this country is appalling. Religious teachers who think religion is exclusively Republican are sorely mistaken and misguided.

]]> By: Melissa - Pennsylvania http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057736 Melissa - Pennsylvania Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:13:00 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057736 the right to marry is NOT about "beliefs"....it's about RIGHTS. The right of every citizen having the same rules as everyone else. The right of EQUALITY. to deny any citizen the same rights as other citizens is discrimination. the right to marry is NOT about "beliefs"....it's about RIGHTS. The right of every citizen having the same rules as everyone else. The right of EQUALITY. to deny any citizen the same rights as other citizens is discrimination.

]]> By: REPUBLIC OF TEXAS http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057732 REPUBLIC OF TEXAS Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:12:54 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057732 HERE WE GO------------IT BEGINS------------ MORE LIBERAL DOWN FALL OF AMERICA MORALS ARE LOST HERE WE GO----IT BEGINS----

MORE LIBERAL DOWN FALL OF AMERICA

MORALS ARE LOST

]]> By: treazule http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057723 treazule Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:12:19 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057723 I think it is BS! Nothing like hate and bigotry! Should be equal right s for all not just hetro's I think it is BS! Nothing like hate and bigotry!

Should be equal right s for all not just hetro's

]]> By: PaulE in Louisville KY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057721 PaulE in Louisville KY Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:12:06 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057721 Wrap it up in your Bible all you want, it's still hate. It's sad that, in 2008, people are still so ignorant on this issue. Sadly, these folks think they'll get into Heaven by oppressing their fellow man this way. Additionally, these folks probably paint themselves as patriotic, yet this is an extremely anti-American thing to do. Pathetic. Wrap it up in your Bible all you want, it's still hate. It's sad that, in 2008, people are still so ignorant on this issue. Sadly, these folks think they'll get into Heaven by oppressing their fellow man this way. Additionally, these folks probably paint themselves as patriotic, yet this is an extremely anti-American thing to do. Pathetic.

]]> By: WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057718 WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:11:50 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057718 AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT CHANGED LAST NIGHT, AMERICANS WILL PAY THE PRICE FOR NOT BEING EDUCATED BY VOTING FOR OBAMA. BUSINESSES WILL BE GOING UP ON THERE PRODUCT AND CORRUPTION IN THIS COUNTRY WILL GO WAY UP IN ORDER TO SURVIVE. NOW THAT WE PUT A CROOKED MAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AMERICANS MUST LEARN FROM HIM AND BE LIKE HIM WHICH MEANS CORRUPTION WILL BE THE WAY OF LIFE FROM NOW ON AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT CHANGED LAST NIGHT,

AMERICANS WILL PAY THE PRICE FOR NOT BEING EDUCATED BY VOTING FOR OBAMA.

BUSINESSES WILL BE GOING UP ON THERE PRODUCT AND CORRUPTION IN THIS COUNTRY WILL GO WAY UP IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.

NOW THAT WE PUT A CROOKED MAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AMERICANS MUST LEARN FROM HIM AND BE LIKE HIM WHICH MEANS CORRUPTION WILL BE THE WAY OF LIFE FROM NOW ON

]]> By: M http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057715 M Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:11:46 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057715 And my faith in America's progresss is irrevocably shattered. And my faith in America's progresss is irrevocably shattered.

]]> By: Ivan Goldberg http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057693 Ivan Goldberg Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:10:43 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057693 No surprise here. The Northeast should cut away the less educated states and form our own country. No surprise here. The Northeast should cut away the less educated states and form our own country.

]]> By: Ed Q http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057690 Ed Q Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:10:35 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057690 We were married October 11,2008. So for all of us who were fortunate to do so before yesterday, congratulations! For the religious hate groups....you should have hired a more competent lawyer to word you hate legislation. And speaking of "wording", you just lost your victory..... You will not be allowed to "grandfather" your hate legislation. And even if you were allowed, you would then be forced in a civil suit to reimburse me the $6k I spent in the state for my ceremony expenses. Oh my, imagine what that $6k would have been able to do in support of the elder, the abused, the poor......... Run back to your church today, I'm sure you are missing the hate sermon. We were married October 11,2008. So for all of us who were fortunate to do so before yesterday, congratulations! For the religious hate groups....you should have hired a more competent lawyer to word you hate legislation. And speaking of "wording", you just lost your victory.....
You will not be allowed to "grandfather" your hate legislation. And even if you were allowed, you would then be forced in a civil suit to reimburse me the $6k I spent in the state for my ceremony expenses. Oh my, imagine what that $6k would have been able to do in support of the elder, the abused, the poor.........
Run back to your church today, I'm sure you are missing the hate sermon.

]]> By: Shawn - Toronto CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057689 Shawn - Toronto CA Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:10:30 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057689 i will never understand all the discrimination and hatred that still occurs in the US - to each his own - its everyones right to live the way they want - its not the churches decision or a governments decision when it creates zero harm to others - seperate church from state once and for all!!! i will never understand all the discrimination and hatred that still occurs in the US – to each his own – its everyones right to live the way they want – its not the churches decision or a governments decision when it creates zero harm to others – seperate church from state once and for all!!!

]]> By: Jeffrey http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057664 Jeffrey Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:08:59 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057664 The fact that blacks were overwhelmingly for it is unbelieveable. A group of people who knows first hand the pain and shame of discrimination -- to think they would turn around and do the same to another. On the day we elected the first Black President, a day we seemed to have come so far, this shows we have a long way to go on the road of tolerance. The fact that blacks were overwhelmingly for it is unbelieveable. A group of people who knows first hand the pain and shame of discrimination - to think they would turn around and do the same to another.

On the day we elected the first Black President, a day we seemed to have come so far, this shows we have a long way to go on the road of tolerance.

]]> By: cb http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057663 cb Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:08:56 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057663 I don't understand how folks in CA can go to the poll to support change and unity - a vote for inclusion and yet so many voted to discriminate against people in loving relationships. It really smacks of I've got mine - so the heck with you. I think our new president has some tough work ahead of him if his own supporters can justify the same type of discrimination that many of them have faced in their own lives. Shame on them I don't understand how folks in CA can go to the poll to support change and unity – a vote for inclusion and yet so many voted to discriminate against people in loving relationships. It really smacks of I've got mine – so the heck with you. I think our new president has some tough work ahead of him if his own supporters can justify the same type of discrimination that many of them have faced in their own lives. Shame on them

]]> By: Howard http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057661 Howard Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:08:49 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057661 I live in California, I am married and have a child on they way. I think the court will rule it unconstitutional and overturn the rule as they should. I remember in the 80's there was a county in Georgia, Forsyth, that wanted to be all white, the court ruled over the wishes of the majority in that case. Laws that discriminate and do not offer equal treatment to people are unconstitutional. This is a civil rights issue much like interratial marriage, a lot of people fought that as well. Barak proved last night hate dies and prejudice fades. I live in California, I am married and have a child on they way. I think the court will rule it unconstitutional and overturn the rule as they should. I remember in the 80's there was a county in Georgia, Forsyth, that wanted to be all white, the court ruled over the wishes of the majority in that case. Laws that discriminate and do not offer equal treatment to people are unconstitutional. This is a civil rights issue much like interratial marriage, a lot of people fought that as well. Barak proved last night hate dies and prejudice fades.

]]> By: Dave http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057641 Dave Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:07:31 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057641 Are we so insecure in our own relationships that we must refuse to recognize someone elses? Are we so insecure in our own relationships that we must refuse to recognize someone elses?

]]> By: Tim http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057636 Tim Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:07:14 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057636 I am in slight disbelief to read "African-Americans voted for the measure by a 69 percent to 31 percent margin." Since when did white voters become more progressive about equal rights then the minorities? I am in slight disbelief to read "African-Americans voted for the measure by a 69 percent to 31 percent margin." Since when did white voters become more progressive about equal rights then the minorities?

]]> By: Anonymous http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057629 Anonymous Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:06:59 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057629 Gays will be Gays Straights will be Straights but I don't see the Gays reproducing any new support anytime soon.Tough!!!!!!!!!! Gays will be Gays Straights will be Straights but I don't see the Gays reproducing any new support anytime soon.Tough!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Chris http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057626 Chris Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:06:40 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057626 Stop bringing your religion into politics! I am strait, married, and I support gay marriage. As long as two people love each other, who are we to judge? The divorce rate is close to 70% right now. So we are going to let that 70% tell us what love should or should not be? So pathetic. Stop bringing your religion into politics! I am strait, married, and I support gay marriage. As long as two people love each other, who are we to judge? The divorce rate is close to 70% right now. So we are going to let that 70% tell us what love should or should not be? So pathetic.

]]> By: MD, TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057625 MD, TX Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:06:37 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057625 Come on California. Vote for Prop 8. Come on California. Vote for Prop 8.

]]> By: Norman http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057618 Norman Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:06:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057618 I just don't understand how people think it affects their lives so much if two gay people get married. I personally don't see any reason for anyone to get married, but I would never take someones rights away because of who they are. I just don't understand how people think it affects their lives so much if two gay people get married. I personally don't see any reason for anyone to get married, but I would never take someones rights away because of who they are.

]]> By: SWMC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057608 SWMC Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:05:31 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057608 Seems it's won, 350,000 votes is a pretty good lead. Seems it's won, 350,000 votes is a pretty good lead.

]]> By: Melissa J http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057602 Melissa J Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:05:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057602 Why did you phrase it in the negative-voters banned gay marriage? Why not say Voters decided to recognize marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Why did you phrase it in the negative-voters banned gay marriage? Why not say Voters decided to recognize marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

]]> By: Sarav Chithambaram http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057601 Sarav Chithambaram Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:05:16 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057601 When the nation voted for a African American president, it broke the race barrier. When we are rejoicing "Yes we can" and patting our backs on the historic win of Obama, we refuse to acknowledge that hate bacame law in 4 states. CA, FL, AR, AK banning same sex marriage and banning gay adoption and fostering. Are we sending mixed signals to the world? When do we realize gay rights are basic rights and not special rights? When do we realize majority voiting on minority is fundamentally wrong. We have slavery and the Civil war to remind us of that tragedy again and again. Here again, the gay community is waiting with a begging bowl for its basic human rights. Shame on anyone who voted banning gay marriages. Hope you feel proud of yourself for helping to write hate in the state law books. You have denied human rights for the current and future generations. You will be laughed at in the future for your bigotry. When the nation voted for a African American president, it broke the race barrier. When we are rejoicing "Yes we can" and patting our backs on the historic win of Obama, we refuse to acknowledge that hate bacame law in 4 states. CA, FL, AR, AK banning same sex marriage and banning gay adoption and fostering.

Are we sending mixed signals to the world? When do we realize gay rights are basic rights and not special rights? When do we realize majority voiting on minority is fundamentally wrong. We have slavery and the Civil war to remind us of that tragedy again and again.

Here again, the gay community is waiting with a begging bowl for its basic human rights.

Shame on anyone who voted banning gay marriages. Hope you feel proud of yourself for helping to write hate in the state law books. You have denied human rights for the current and future generations. You will be laughed at in the future for your bigotry.

]]> By: Kelly http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057599 Kelly Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:05:13 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057599 If a mormon can have 8 wives and I am supposed to look the other way, why can't I marry the person I love? Hate, lies, discrimination, and homophobia seem to be the new family values of the mormon and catholic church. I thought the bible taught love and tolerance. I hope you teach your children to discriminate well, because this fight isn't over yet. If a mormon can have 8 wives and I am supposed to look the other way, why can't I marry the person I love? Hate, lies, discrimination, and homophobia seem to be the new family values of the mormon and catholic church. I thought the bible taught love and tolerance. I hope you teach your children to discriminate well, because this fight isn't over yet.

]]> By: J. Cannon http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057598 J. Cannon Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:05:06 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057598 Ironic that black voters, who fought so long and so hard to be accepted and to have the same rights as whites, are now the discriminators voting 69% for Prop. 8. And on the very night the first black president is overwhlemingly elected. Ironic that black voters, who fought so long and so hard to be accepted and to have the same rights as whites, are now the discriminators voting 69% for Prop. 8. And on the very night the first black president is overwhlemingly elected.

]]> By: norris_california http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057581 norris_california Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:04:24 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057581 Gay marriage should not be allowed any where in the world, they should have the same rights as any individual but marriage is a tradition from the onset was between a man and a woman. Allowing same sex to do likewise will not make marriage a tradition anymore but rather a trend.A BIG NO TO LBGHT,(lesbians,bi-xuals,gays, homosxuals and Transvestites. It will never become a law, no disrespect to gay folks. PEACE!!!!! Gay marriage should not be allowed any where in the world, they should have the same rights as any individual but marriage is a tradition from the onset was between a man and a woman. Allowing same sex to do likewise will not make marriage a tradition anymore but rather a trend.A BIG NO TO LBGHT,(lesbians,bi-xuals,gays, homosxuals and Transvestites. It will never become a law, no disrespect to gay folks.
PEACE!!!!!

]]> By: Holly http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057579 Holly Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:04:16 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057579 Wow. I am glad that CNN doesn't try to hide their bias. Last night when a NO for Prop. 8 was ahead, CNN was ready to call it. Now that YES is ahead. Its too close to call. Sorry CNN, I know you are disappointed that a PERVERSION of Satan and a DISGRACE was defeated. Wow. I am glad that CNN doesn't try to hide their bias. Last night when a NO for Prop. 8 was ahead, CNN was ready to call it. Now that YES is ahead. Its too close to call. Sorry CNN, I know you are disappointed that a PERVERSION of Satan and a DISGRACE was defeated.

]]> By: Cincinnatian http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057575 Cincinnatian Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:03:59 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057575 For crying out loud, give people the freedom to live their love in peace. Why are we so afraid? For crying out loud, give people the freedom to live their love in peace. Why are we so afraid?

]]> By: Mary http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/ban-on-gay-marriage-in-ca-still-unclear/#comment-2057557 Mary Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:02:36 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=29303#comment-2057557 One man and one woman, Biblical marriage is what they voted for. God hates divorce and according to the Bible there are grounds for divorce but you can not remarry unless your spouse dies. Until death do you part, if you want to be married. Lets make remarrying of divorced people illegal too and see how they like it. One man and one woman, Biblical marriage is what they voted for. God hates divorce and according to the Bible there are grounds for divorce but you can not remarry unless your spouse dies. Until death do you part, if you want to be married. Lets make remarrying of divorced people illegal too and see how they like it.

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