November 10, 2008
Posted: November 10th, 2008 07:50 PM ET

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MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) - For the second time in a week, Republican incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman's camp is labeling him the winner in Minnesota's far-from-over Senate race.

Coleman leads Democratic challenger Al Franken by just 206 votes as the first round of tallying comes to a close Monday evening.

"Sen. Coleman remains the winner in this election despite unexplained discrepancies in reporting ...that have virtually all benefited the Franken campaign," Coleman spokesman Tom Erickson said in a statement.

That result means little at this point: Minnesota law mandates a recount when the margin of victory in a race is less than .5 percent.

This instance falls well within that gap - more than 2.4 million Minnesotans cast votes in this year's Senate race.

Coleman's lead has shrunk since votes were first tabulated earlier in the week. On Wednesday, he led by 725 votes. Representatives with the Coleman campaign have charged that irregularities in tabulation throughout the week have unfairly benefited their opponent, Al Franken.

Franken spokesman Andy Barr dismissed the claim. "As much as the Coleman campaign would like to play political games and baselessly cast doubt on this process," Barr wrote in an e-mail to CNN, "we will continue to work to ensure that every vote is properly counted."

Barr also suggested that it would be wrong for anyone to declare victory before the statewide hand recount is complete. That process is set to begin November 19, and could last until mid-December.

Filed under: Al Franken • Minnesota • Norm Coleman


Max   November 11th, 2008 12:49 am ET

I like how so many people are accusing Norm Coleman of trying to steal the election.

Coleman has been ahead ever since votes have started coming in. If Franken somehow rearranges a 500-vote loss into a 100-vote victory, will you resist continuing the use of the word "stolen"?

Don't mind me. Just pointing out the inconsistencies in some of your arguments.

Max   November 11th, 2008 12:47 am ET

I like how so many people are accusing Norm Coleman of trying to steal the election.

Coleman has been ahead ever since votes have started coming in. If Franken somehow rearranges a 500-vote loss into a 100-vote victory, will you resist continuing the use of the word "stolen"?

Don't mind me. Just pointing out the inconsistencies in some of your arguments.

Jeff   November 11th, 2008 12:43 am ET

Wow, this Earl guy here is really messed up. Its pretty scary knowing that there are people like that out here.
I think the zoo cage might be a good place to start. That, and some heavy drugs.

Bob Indianapolis, IN   November 11th, 2008 12:42 am ET

Coleman stove leaves the voters cold. Franken will win because "he's good enough. He's smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like him!"

poll watcher   November 11th, 2008 12:30 am ET

Coleman has read his Supreme Court cases! Remember that Bush's claim of victory was instrumental in the circular reasoning behind stopping the recount in Florida, the continuation of which would have produced irremediable harm to "the winner."

MN resident   November 11th, 2008 12:22 am ET

@xargaw

Agreed that the hand recount is best, but didn't the WA '04 governor race only do the hand recount for the Seattle area? Seems like if they missed the votes of those outside the emerald city they didn't care.

MN could be the same - I think each precinct gets to choose whether to recount by machine or by hand. Lets hope they all do a hand recount the first time around and not repeat that WA mess.

Dave J   November 11th, 2008 12:21 am ET

Beware of ACORN shenanigans. That organization holds that the ends justify the means. Franken undoubtedly wants to benefit from ACORN's expertise just like Obama. I'm sure democracy will operate much better when Obama's Civilian Army (aka Gestapo) will watch over us citizens.

No So Fast Rabbit ...   November 11th, 2008 12:20 am ET

Yep, he's a Republican.

Coleman seems to think that if he repeats something enough times in a loud voice, he'll make it TRUE.

Ghost   November 11th, 2008 12:17 am ET

Good luck on the recount Al. Bye bye coleman we don't want you.

Will in Carson City   November 11th, 2008 12:16 am ET

Please tell me that they at least won't be trying to ascertain the will of the voters with dimpled and hanging chads.....

Mtsnowtiger   November 11th, 2008 12:15 am ET

Has anyone noticed when the race is close the Dems miraculously find additional ballots in the recount and keep recounting until the winner is a Dem? Case in point..Look at the Washington state gov race in 04. Dems sued for a recount and after the 3rd try finally got the victory when previously uncounted ballots magically appeared and gave the victory to the Dem. All the legal challenges in the 2000 presidential race requiring 3 recounts that didn't get the result the Dems wanted. Recounts by 2 newspapers (I believe 1 was the Miami paper) long after the race proved Bush in fact did win. If votes are being missed in the counting then criminal charges need to be filed for fixing a race. I'm all for a recount if the race is close, but 1 recount is all that should be required. Anymore than 1 and it looks suspicious especially when 1 party is forcing recounts and court battles. Just an observation.

Kompira   November 11th, 2008 12:14 am ET

It's not that the people from Minnesota are stupid good sir, it's that we have no better candidate to replace Norm with, need to go with the lesser of two evils.

But thank you for immediately jumping to the conclusion that because we vote for someone, automatically makes us dumb.

FrederickMichael   November 11th, 2008 12:05 am ET

Why restrict ourselves to just one recount? Florida's recount in 2000 was just the beginning.

RGG   November 10th, 2008 11:57 pm ET

Coleman, go back to sleep.

Jack Jodell, Minneapolis, MN   November 10th, 2008 11:49 pm ET

The Coleman camp are talking out of their behinds again. Their opportunistic candidate hooked up with the Bush crowd when the going looked good there, and now that it doesn't, the slimy little chameleon has tried to portay himself as an independent moderate. Within a year of occupying the late great Paul Wellstone's seat, he even had the guts and horribly poor taste to proclaim himself a 99% better Senator than Wellstone was. Just another heartless Republican. Bye, bye, Norm-we don't want you anymore. Go spend your retirement on Bush's ranch where you belong!

Riley In Nebraska   November 10th, 2008 11:44 pm ET

I'm pullin for Franken!!!

Del   November 10th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Coleman, you need to give up. The fix is in. I guarantee you two things. CNN will not post this and you will lose. If they can’t fix it during the recount for you to lose, they will take care of it in the courts or the Senate. When will you learn, you can’t play by the rules.

Joel Graham   November 10th, 2008 11:34 pm ET

Norm you need to take some time to find a new place to live. Hint it will not be in the house of a sugardaddy in Washington DC. It will be somewhere in Minnesota. BTW Coleman you suck!

Preston   November 10th, 2008 11:30 pm ET

I honestly think they should consider re-doing the election without any third parties.

But in all honesty, I think after a recount Frank will prevail.

Kathy in Minnesota   November 10th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

I too will be happy once the recount has been done. Mark Ritchie is a good Secretary of State. Al got my vote.

PL   November 10th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Just like a republican if they can't win it fair they steal it.

The Blessed One   November 10th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

Those Republicans sure know how to steal elections.

MiMi   November 10th, 2008 11:26 pm ET

This coming from Coleman, who is about to be indicted for bribery to the tune of $75,000 for his wife, undisclosed vacations and clothing from lobbyists, and abuse of power. He has frequently been cited as one of the top ten most corrupt national leaders. What is wrong with the people of Minnesota? How did Bachmann win? How is this guy even close? Anyone else starting to suspect there was a little Coleman-issued foul play with Wellstone in 2002? Wellstone was clobbering Coleman until tragic events occurred, and Coleman walks into office in the waning days of the election before Wellstone's campaign had a chance to name a replacement. Something stinks with this guy. He's changed political parties like 3 times. Does he stand for ANYTHING?

Milhouse van Houten   November 10th, 2008 11:25 pm ET

"Lies and the lying liars who tell them",go little boy Al,you just keep going.This will work out in your favour.

AJ   November 10th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

Are all you people serious? You actually WANT to elect a raving lunatic like Al Franken to the United States Senate? Just because he's NOT the Republican candidate? Jeez, I had thought that the US had made history when they elected Obama, but now I'm beginning to feel that if Mickey Mouse was on the ballot against a republican he would have won...

Sparko   November 10th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

Tues night Norm told Al to concede, insinuating that allowing a recount was tantamount to questioning the MN election workers who in his veiw then, were beyond reproach. Now that some corrections have been made, which happens in every race in every election, he has changed his tune. What is it Norm? Do you trust the MN system or not? Does he forget that even though he has the most votes, the majority of Minnesotans did not vote for him thanks to a strong 3rd party candidate? Shouldn't his first concern be that every vote counts? Isn't that what freedom and liberty is all about? I expect he will come out the winner in the end but wouldn't it be sweet if Al pulled this elelction off now that Norm has twice declared himself the winner and disparaged the election and counting process in a state known for its fairness. Just shut up Norm and let the law of the state you say you care so much about play out and live with whatever the results are. Take a lesson from McCain and act like an adult.

Charlie   November 10th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

Typical Democrats...constant complaining. If things don't go in their favor, it's a conspiracy. But if things go against the Republicans, it's their own doing. That's all it is with Democrats, is all finger-pointing and placing blame and taking zero accountability on themselves. Sad.

Bob   November 10th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

Why is it whenever an election is this close Democrats always think they won? They always claim there are these unseen "mystery" votes that will appear. Could it be that if Republicans don't watch them every step of the way these votes always do "appear".
You know if Franken was 200 votes ahead they would have sworn him in already.

A Really Conservative Realist   November 10th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Lots of irregularity in the precincts that Al is finding votes in. Appears that lots of folks voted for Franken and not BO. HMMMM. Very interesting. But hey, you dems have never claimed to be ethical.

Real Minnesota Resident   November 10th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Coleman was just trying to save us taxpayers the money it is going to cost to do the recount. Franken is just trying to figure out who will let him perform fraud and add some votes for the win. 77% of Democrats believe that if there is voter fraud it would be a democrat performing it.

Dave   November 10th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

wth is wrong with all of you, saying one or the other should just give up? both candidates have worked hard and long for an oppurtunity to represent Minnesota. Its their right and the right of Minnesotans to have a recount. go blow on an exhaust pipe. you people make me sick

Brian   November 10th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

I think they're both losers, but state law is state law. Does Coleman think he's above the law as he's attempts to circumvent it? Let the process work, you dirtbag.

glenn   November 10th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

57% voted against this incumbent. Seems like the voter are rejecting Mr. Coleman.

NObama   November 10th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

Are people in Minnesota so stupid they want AL FRANKEN to represent them? Can we think about that for a minute? That's like putting Bill O'Reilly in the senate, people that will make a mockery of the government and be useless in solving problems. COME ON!

I HELPED TURN INDIANA BLUE from Chicago   November 10th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

Wow... I love how the Republicans always try to play themselves as the victims of the "liberal media". FOX News spews enough hatred and ignorance to make up for any alleged bias by the other networks.

YES WE DID!

Brad   November 10th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

By the end of this, we'll be hearing that the winner is "me, Al Franken." I think Al speaks for the Everyman, and I'm tired of Republican blowhards always trying to sue their way into office.

ROCHESTER,MN   November 10th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

MR. COLEMAN, DON'T TRY TO STEAL MY VOTE.

Jodi K   November 10th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

He can declare himself the winner all he wants...

and I can declare myself queen of the world. Doesn't make it true.

tmess2   November 10th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

Anybody who has ever been part of a recount knows that some ballots that a machine reads as undervote actually have valid votes under the counting standard.

When a race is this close, it's important to have a full and complete hand count to determine who won. Of course, just as in motor sports or baseball, when you are in the lead, you want the rest of the race called off to avoid the possibility that you actually might lose.

Scott   November 10th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

The Republicans are jumping the gun again.

And I'm not Al Franken

Earl   November 10th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Al Freakin is an idiot, like all the good little marxists that voted for him.
Al Freakin, and the magic negro, and all the rest of the democratic marxists, should get jobs that they're uniquely qualified for, namely
cleaning animal cages, and toilets in the zoo of their choice.

minnesoootan   November 10th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

Norms gotta go. He's gotta go.

Kevin in MN   November 10th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

Coleman should just "shut up" and let the process proceed. The more he whines about the whole thing the more people hope he loses. Can we just have some peace and quiet for a while now that the awful Coleman and Franken ads have finally stopped running? Too bad Barkley didn't win. He's no genius but he's a decent guy who would do a good job.

Jeff in Illinois   November 10th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Awww, poor Senator Coleman...sounds like he's facing a "vast left-wing conspiracy". "unexplained discrepancies in reporting" pfft.

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   November 10th, 2008 10:45 pm ET

Al Franken was once a B-list comedian, but as a Senator he'd be a real joke. I know nothing about this guy Coleman, but he has to better that clown Franken.

Robert in Harford   November 10th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

There are more than 10,000 undervotes left to count/examine. This is even before any recount (inevitable). It is asinine to claim victory with 200 votes with either one of these conditions. It would be equally moronic if Franken tried to call it for himself.

Support Our President   November 10th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Good luck Mr. Franken. President Obama needs you right now and I dearly hope you win. Enough with the Republican already. Go away!

Dan   November 10th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

I don't get it. Does the Coleman campaign think that if they ignore the recount process it will go away?

VETS4Obama   November 10th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

The recount is the law Norm!! Are you sweating it that your voter suppression efforts may not be enough? Go home with Sarah, John and your hero George!

Coleman should give up   November 10th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Let's face it Norm....you lost the race...you're trying to pull a Florida here, cheating you way to the election and trying to deny a recount which will prove it...fall on your sword and go get a job with the rich Iranian who gives you all that illegal dough....I feel sorry for politicians like you.

Margo   November 10th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

Gee Norm, what happened? If Franken was supposedly so wrong for Minnesota, why is there going to be a state ordered recount?

Kat   November 10th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Wow, let's declare victory without the mandated recount...geez, I think I've heard this story before.

Normy, Bush's Biatch   November 10th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

Yet another feeble attempt by Sen. Bush boy to play politics and look foolish. Normy, you may very well lose and MN will be better off because of it.

Anonymous   November 10th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

just a matter of who did tipped the scales less if you catch my drift

James   November 10th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

That's the lowest gap I have seen since this started a week ago.

Paul, Ohio   November 10th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

Let's count the votes before we jump to conclusions

Rose   November 10th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Norm keeps forgetting his vote count went up by several hundred during the canvasing too. Franken's just went up a bit more.

xargaw   November 10th, 2008 10:13 pm ET

I live in Washington State. We went through this in '04 in our Governor's race. The first two machine counts gave a slim lead to the Republican. A complete hand count gave the race to the Democrat. Only a complete hand count can demonstrate accuracy in a close race. Take the necessary time, count by hand and find out who really won, whoever that might be. The integrity of the election is most important. Machine scanners notoriously error as happened in the pre-election testing in Minnesota. A hand count will get it right. Colemen needs to chill and let democracy work.

MN resident   November 10th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Norm and his campaign team...... just ridiculous!!

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