Too bad the McCain couldn't have done as good a job vetting their VP choice.
November 13, 2008 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
Proud to be American
I want to be apart of the Adminstration of true change ..... send me the application I will complete with bells on no worries ;0)
November 13, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
Independent but Leaning
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
November 13, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
Jacob
Looks like if you have a gun or your family member has a gun or if you know some one who owns a gun you can't a get a job with the president-elect.
November 13, 2008 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
M in DC
I agree Will from NYC; the McCain camp dropped the ball in choosing Palin and not properly vetting her. Their campaign had more than enough time to select the best second in command candidate.
November 13, 2008 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
mitch
he has to make sure there are no neocons sneaking in to infect the presidency with stoopidity.
November 13, 2008 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
Jen
Independant but leaning: You are the idiot if you believe all the crap that the GOP was feeding you.
Given the state of our country, I'll gladly take anything that resembles a little socialism right about now.
November 13, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
S from Chicago
I wonder how many of the questions on this application violate some type of employment law...like discrimination based on health...
November 13, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
John
Hey independant where did you flunk out of school?
It amazes me how poorly read the people of this country really are.
November 13, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
Dee
You can LOL at the people who voted for him all you want but he is YOUR President too...if you live out of the country, then your opinion is irrelevant...
No one will have a problem with completing the application nor subjecting themselves to background checks and if they don't they should be smart enough to know not to apply....
It's not like Obama will be personally hiring the people in the lower level positions...geesh....
November 13, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
susie
If Obama had filled out a 7 page questionaire, would he had been able to run for President?
November 13, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
Fabrizio
I think Suzzane Malveaux is hot and apparently she does one hell of a job too.
November 13, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
mitch
indy but leaning= republicanatsi. your party just gave $700,000,000,000.00 to to financial institutions. socialism? your party has spied on its own people, and sent our military into a sovereign nation,based on lies. they have tortured people. so, who is the fan of the german SA? i'm afraid you and yours are the hiltler lovers!
November 13, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
FAYE, NV
Stop hating, he's your President Obama also. The people have voted and it is over. Therefore get over it or move to another Country.
November 13, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
Kim, Charlotte, NC
Independent but Leaning....................I'm sorry. But are you talking about George Bush and Paulson( biggest soclialists), or John McCain palling around with terroist (Sarah Palin and the first Dude).
Join the train of "Hope" and Lean forward!
November 13, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
Maggie from Virginia
The GOP should take notes on how real vetting is done.
November 13, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
No More GOP
I'm really sick of the conservatives saying Obama is a 'socialist.' Socialism has already been enacted by the Republicans when they 'redistributed the wealth' to the rich with Bush's tax cuts for the rich. Why are they so against having an educated man in the White House? Probably because they'll be found out for the lying, corrupt, cronyism crooks they are. Our economy is in the toilet because of their 'Socialism' and failed economic policies. Their only hope is to keep repeating the factless lies that seem to be the only thing they have left.
November 13, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
John J.
Um, I applied through change.gov and saw nothing like this application. There is no PDF questionnaire. There are no requests for tax returns or blog posts. I did fill out a 10 page (give or take) online questionnaire with all the standard questions any new job would ask. Now I may not have received all requests for information yet, but you may want to double check your sources.
November 13, 2008 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
PaulMoATX
I like the transparency and accountability being forged by the Obama administration.
November 13, 2008 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
KKK
--OBAMA AND ALL HIS --G HATING SUPPORTERS.THIS IS THE --ING UNITY OBAMA BRINGS IN HIS SUPPORTERS. THIS COUNTRY IS MORE DIVIDED THAN EVER. THE ONLY UNITY IS IN HIS PARTY, HIS --ING YOUNG SUPPORTERS MAKE THE OTHERSIDE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH UNITY. ITS ALL THE --ING HATERS FAUGHT.THEY HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT THE OTHERSIDE. --YOUR UNITY. THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO FALL WORST THAN EVER. I HOPE THROUGH ALL THE --ING HATERS THAT THE REP'S DONT HELP THE OTHERSIDE AT ALL. LET THEM --THIS COUNTRY UP BY THEMSELVES. THE DEMS BLAME THE REP'S TO LONG ,AND THEY WERE PART OF THE 8YRS. TOO. THATS THE PROBLEM WITH THE DEMS,THEY CANT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR FAUGHTS. JUST LIKE THEIR LEADER TO BE.REP'S TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND WALL STREET WAS A BIG PROBLEM BY THEMSELVES.
November 13, 2008 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
Super D
Ohh the Obama hypocrisy......!
Fork over every detail of your life!
If Barak Hussein Obama had done that on the campaign, he never would have been elected!
Dems have no shame
November 13, 2008 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
Jim in Fllorida
Still attacking Palin, huh, Will in NYC. Consider that source, an Obama lock step area. Keep attacking Palin, you will keep her in the media and in the public eye.
Wonderful that Obama is requiring so much detail from his job applicants.
Too bad Obama hasn't provided the same info himself.
November 13, 2008 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
Big Difference
So the Obama application is a real novel, eh? Then why is the application for corporations to get in on the government bailout money only 2 pages long!?!?! I wish CNN would check up on this.
November 13, 2008 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
Mary from Sarasota FL
But of course, Everyone has to be vetted. Easy one to understand.
November 13, 2008 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
Candy West Virginia
This is understandable as only the best would want the best.
And to Independent but Leaning – you still don't get it that America rejected your 'kind' that lies, cheats, steals, smears and hates. You are part of a dying breed, your voices are being drowned out. See ya, surely wouldn't want to be ya!
November 13, 2008 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
Susan Parker
GO BARACK!!! Finally, we have an administration that believes in vetting the applicants! Finally, an intelligent president-elect.
Thank you Democrats!!!!
November 13, 2008 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
Sarah Palin
I'll answer the questions in my secret language that only Republicans can understand. Who cares what the questions are, I'll give em the straight talk that their just dying for. Here goes...
My concern has been the atrocities there in Darfur and the relevance to me with that issue as we spoke about Africa and some of the countries there that were kind of the people succumbing to the dictators and the corruption of some collapsed governments on the continent, the relevance was Alaska’s investment in Darfur with some of our permanent fund dollars.
November 13, 2008 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
GM
But this forking over of details did not apply to Obama himself, nor did the media demand it, nor did the American people who just put their collective heads in the sand on this one.
Obama is nothing but rhetoric and a bumper sticker slogan.
November 13, 2008 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
Jeanie, CA
He's worth it. No drama Obama.
November 13, 2008 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
GLD321
So they are being thourough. No shock there
November 13, 2008 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
Debbie in DC
I had a friend apply for the FBI and the questions they ask and digging they do is A LOT worse than this. I think Obama is trying to pre-screen folks so if they clearly do not qualify, they do not have to start the FBI process for vettng and security clearances that are time consuming and expensive.
Good move on his part.
November 13, 2008 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
JM
Interesting. That's more information and vetting then Obama's been through.
November 13, 2008 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
jamaicaland-welove
President-Elect Barack Obama is making no mistakes..
Congrats president!!!
November 13, 2008 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
Tex Ann ~~~~~~~
People– it's time to get past the hateful comments.
Has no one noticed the condition this country is in?
We need to start working TOGETHER to get us back on the right track. And CIVILITY might be a really good place to start!!!!!!!!!!
November 13, 2008 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
Now, Now
To Independent but Leaning:
Sour grapes are not becoming.
November 13, 2008 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
Tired of the crying
Independent:
Don't worry about it...I'm sure Klan members like yourself won't be hired either.
November 13, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
MG
He is under more scruitiny than any president-elect historically. It is smart to choose his staff wisely. Some people (Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly) are just waiting to pounce on even the slightest miststep and twist it out of proportion.
November 13, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
Michele
Obviously none of you have ever applied for a DOD job that requires a security clearance. Did you expect a job app at the Commander of Chief's office would be one page. How naive you are.
November 13, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
IowaMom
Independent but Leaning
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
______________________________________________
Still riding on that waive of fear huh?
November 13, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
First Hire
The first person Barack should hire is a fashion consultant for his wife. If Michelle comes out with another scary dress (and a sweater) like that election night number, American women are doomed. Unfortunately she is representing our fashion style–and not in a good way.
November 13, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
Mike, Syracuse NY
Isn't this the party that supports the right to privacy?
November 13, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
NP in NC
While I am an Obama supporter, it is interesting that many of the questioned asked on the application are illegal for most private employers.
November 13, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
Shawn
Quit your whining...My gosh...you right wing nut jobs just can't let it go. You're about as independent as Joe the Loser was...
November 13, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
Travis Johns
FUNNY-
Number 16.... William Ayers?? Didn't matter to Obama why should it affect who he hires!
November 13, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
A New Beginning
Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
"I'm going to pray for you my brother. It appears you have social problem yourself".
November 13, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
ChicagoJosh
i hope my posts here don't hurt my chances
November 13, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
Obama Victim
are you now, or have you ever been a terrorist?? If so, when can you start??
November 13, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
tiffany in ohio
sign me up im an open book...
November 13, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
Quita Harris
To: Independent but Leaning,
Hate to point this out to you but you're an IDIOT!. You obviously need to come with more then insane RND talking point; After 8 years of a government run by criminals, thugs and murders you should silent. It's IDIOTS like you that got us into this mess. You should be arrested along with the entire Bush administration and sent to jail. RIDICULOUS.
November 13, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
GET REAL.
Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
___________
C'mon, your spam is showing... you're nothing but a troll artist, trying to rile us up... if you really believed this, you'd leave the country or at least say something of substance. Begone, flamer.
November 13, 2008 11:44 am at 11:44 am |
MG
Independent but Learning–Here's a list of things you can learn while you are at it:
1. Factcheck.org – will explain that every claim you make in your post is complete fiction.
2. Bigotry is very unflattering.
3. You can disagree with Obama's policies without being so hateful and mean, even if you hero, Palin, can't.
4. Obama is our president regardless of what you think of him, so learn how to respect others, rather than name calling.
5. Only stipid people make points by name-calling. You want to futher your view, educate yourself and make intellegent points.
6. The reason why your party (obvious republican, not indepent) is losing is because there is a serious lack of smart and congenial people in it, just like you.
November 13, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
samwright23
I like how some of their questions are probably ILLEGAL!! Most employers can't ask those questions of their employees. Just like him to go above the law, I guess.
November 13, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
John
LOL.. I just to see the trolls show their hatred for Obama. Anytime i see those post it lets me know that hes doing something right.
November 13, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
Dear Barack
Note to Barack:
If you see Michelle leave the house in the following, lock her in a closet:
1. Print dresses (great style, not for first ladies)
2. Multi-colored dresses (especially like the election nightmare dress)
3. Sweaters of any kind (she needs jackets)
4. Dangling earrings (not appropriate unless it's a formal)
5. Wedge heeled shoes (not appropriate for first lady)
6. Neon dresses (like that red-orange dress she wore to the WH)
7. Stripes of any kind (especially horizontal ones)
8. Tight dresses (unless she's alone with you, this is not good)
Just lock Michelle in the closet and tell the press you don't know what happened to her.
November 13, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
lucinOH
Oh please independent give it a rest. Your tired rhetoric is not going to help things any more than dems gloating over the Obama win. I held my tongue for 8 years while I saw president Bush turn our country towards the biggest downward spiral we've seen in almost 30 years. The least you can do is close your mouth until President-Elect Obama has been in office for at least one year. Another thing, take the energy you use for your tired, boring rhetoric and do something useful in your community for those less fortunate than you. That can be your contribution to change.
November 13, 2008 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
Conservative business owner in NY
So Obama wants people who get his coffee to give out more personal details about themselves than he was willing to give out in a run for President?
November 13, 2008 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
Tired of Spin
Just one question: Why does it say "Clinton" on the left hand side of pg 4 by question 31 under Section IV. Financial information?!
November 13, 2008 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
sabuc in Atlanta
Question 8: “Briefly describe the most controversial matters you have been involved with during the course of your career.”
I'd love to see Palin or McCain try and apply and get by this question with no problems. They'd probably need a couple or sheets to type everything out.
November 13, 2008 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
Adebukola
I requested an application to serve on the Obama/Biden administration on Tuesday, November 11, 2008. This morning I received the application. It took me approximately 30 minutes or less to complete. I would be honored to serve our new President's administration in what ever capacity I qualify for. They even had the Peace Corps as an area for service.
November 13, 2008 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
Brian from Fort Mill, SC
Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
---------------------
You need not apply, because he checks the blogs, too!
If I were you, I'd keep quiet until they make an offer!
November 13, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
Hopeful for Tomorrow
@Independent but Leaning - He's not a socialist. Brian Moore, the candidate for the SOCIALIST PARTY, was a socialist. In fact, Moore stated himself that Obama's policies did not reflect socialism.
As for "ties" to these groups, find reliable sources for them. Reliable sources. Not a post on your cousin's blog.
And as for your last comment, it's obvious that you've already decided to hate the President Elect, and are now trying to justify it with whatever fabricated story you can find.
November 13, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
Kate from Florida
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't the the Republicans use this as an outline for vetting their people? LIKE THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE USA???
November 13, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
Get with it!
Wow....sounds interesting. If I get the job, who gets the paycheck? Hmmm....
November 13, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
Reds from NJ
I wonder if a DWI would exclude someone?
November 13, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
Pat in NM
Agree with Obama or not, he is putting the same comprehensive effort into his employee hiring as he did his campaign. It will be tough to have any skeletons in the closets after truthfully completing this form.
November 13, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
sglman4Obama
I must say, its thorough....everything but blood and urine sampling! LOL
November 13, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
RH
This is just as much (if not more so) about collecting ammunition for use against potential employees who might fall out of favour with the Administration at some point in the future as is it about legitimately checking out applicants.
@"Independent but Leaning" 11:20 am ET:
Grow up.
November 13, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
DOC
Hummm, did Obama give such details to his background I think not. Will the Obama Civil Corp., be asking such details so we don't end up with a new army of Liberal Nazi's, such hypocrocy. 1/21/09, from that date on its Obama/Biden that will be bashed if the Economy and all the related problems don't get better, so lets see THE ONE, Mr Brillance fix and deliver on all his campain speeches.
2012
November 13, 2008 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
jake, San Francisco, CA
re: Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET:
I understand your still hurt. Get over it, sometimes you lose other times you win, it wasn't your term this time around.
November 13, 2008 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
Georgia Gal
Oh. My. Lord.
No way I could work for this administration as I wouldn't be able to come up with half the stuff they are asking for. I mean ... good gosh ... blog posts???
November 13, 2008 11:55 am at 11:55 am |
Sean
Yeah, that's more information than he had to fork over. Oh, and mitch, it's stupidity, not stoopidity.
November 13, 2008 11:55 am at 11:55 am |
GA Independent
It's time to select employees with a bit more than a wink and a handshake and campaign donation – look what the Republicans got – Cheney, Palin, back-biting staffers in the McCain campaign, Lieberman, need we go on?
November 13, 2008 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
Pamela Rainsong
You should see Florida's Pinellas County's Application... Eleven pages. Florida's state application is on-line and is defaulted at four pages, but you can make it longer depending on your job history.
November 13, 2008 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
Alaskan Fame Junkie
Oh can it, Independent.
You have been spouting that nonsense for over a month on here (at least...that's only as long as I've been reading). If you don't know anything about the President-Elect yet, then you haven't been paying attention.
November 13, 2008 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
Change, hahaha
I want a new job with BARACK, all i will receive on payday will be CHANGE.
November 13, 2008 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
Steve - Minneapolis
This is business as usual for a true executive in charge. This kind of appropriate attention to detail is part of the reason the Obama campaign ran nearly flawlessly. Planning is generally better than shooting from the hip when you are in charge of the greatest nation in the free world.
This is going to be such a great administration!
November 13, 2008 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
David
Its no suprise. Look at all the dictators around the world and the similarities.....paranoia, mistrust, disdain for all those around them, and an iron-fisted control of the minions who do his bidding. Thanks to the 52% for voting in Stalin-lite.
November 13, 2008 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
obama #uno
OBAMA RULES THE WORLD, HAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE
November 13, 2008 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
jrzshor
what would they do with obamas answers?
November 13, 2008 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
Mr Canada
On a typical work day, do you wear a) Boxers , or b) Briefs?
Please list the brand and date of purchase of all Underwear.
Has your underwear been fabricated in a foreign nation, if so state the country of fabrication and state your reason for buying foreign underwear.
Has your underwear been involved in any sort of controversy in the past, or does your underwear have any criminal charges against, if so, have they been fully pardoned.
If the above does not apply to you, please state your reasoning for going commando...
hehe, just kidding, I'm impressed with the process though, it would be a little tough to find out all of your blog posts though. Still, I hope it works well.
November 13, 2008 11:59 am at 11:59 am |
Lindsay
Why is it surprising that you have to fill out a thorough application to work for Obama? He's going to be President of the United States. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want any unnecessary scandals. Understandably. Haven't we had enough drama for a while?
November 13, 2008 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
Why????
Independent but Leaning you need to apply for a job with President elect Obama administration and stop the hate. It seems that you really hate yourself because, God say to love thou brother as thou self.
Or maybe you should lean toward the GOP, because their next leader will be the Antichrist. Think goodness I will not be around to see it. I'm praying very hard to be rapture when Jesus returns for his bride.
November 13, 2008 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
Taylor in TX
#59 What does the fact that someone owns a firearm have to do with anything?
I take issue with many of the questions on that "application", good thing I would never fill it out. Obama may be the President-elect and as such will have my respect for the position but not the person. I would like to see his responses to this application.
I can understand vetting someone for any possible conflict of interest for the job, but it looks like they just want the "right" people. Looks kind of discriminating to me.
November 13, 2008 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
TC
Don't see anything wrong with the length of the application. If anyone has ever filled out security clearance paperwork before than they know this is a piece of cake.
November 13, 2008 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
Ken
Hey Independent But Leaning, you can laugh all you want at me. But my man is in power now. So have your little laugh if that makes losers like you feel better.
And just to get the historical perspective correct, Nazi Germany was a RIGHTWING regime that slowly gained power though hate and fear mongering. Sound familiar?.....or are YOU too near the speakers to have any perspective? Mr. Bush, and all his little rightwing lemmings like you, indeed had America going down political and clutural paths that had much in common with Germany of the 1920s. Unlike Germany though, enough of the American people woke up in 2008 and diverted the rightwing [R] disaster that you so fondly continue to support. So keep laughing you neo-moron.
November 13, 2008 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
Todd In Des Moines
@Independent – Your comments are way out of line and completely uncalled for. To equaite Americans, just like yourself, regardless of politicacl affiliation, to Nazi Stormtroopers, is cowardly and you are abusing your First Amendment rights. Just because you can say it, doesn't mean you should parrot Congressman Broun.
As for the Obama application, this is no different than any other government app.
November 13, 2008 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
Application required?
Forking over every detail about your life? Hmmm. Since when did that matter to Obama? In the past, there have only been two questions to work with or be friends with Obama:
1. What is your name?
2. Do you have a pulse?
November 13, 2008 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
therealmarie
With Obama, stupid need not apply. Thank God!
November 13, 2008 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
Ken in Dallas
McCain should have sent Palin this questionnaire before he picked her. Could have saved himself some nasty surprises.
November 13, 2008 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm |
OBAMA
I applied!! but who knows i probably won't get a call, :"-( I'll be positive !!!
November 13, 2008 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm |
Eric
Don't worry. Plenty of jobs available.
I see now that Obama wants money for the automakers and a new czar to oversee (isn't czar typically a communist/socialist term?...hmmm). Anyways, we will have a huge government under Obama. Huge. Plenty of jobs to micromanage every detail. Lots of money will be needed though. Get your checkbooks ready America. 2010, tax cuts expire, all of ours will need to go up to pay for these programs and new jobs. Get ready folks.
November 13, 2008 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm |
tony
not a bad idea at all. u want u job? better be qualify we already have mess to clean up.
November 13, 2008 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
Susan
By the time I fill the application, I can easily graduate with a PhD degree.
Its ridiculous.
November 13, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
FreeNLovIt
This is amazing. With all these extreme measures, our government is still not perfect. My personal viewpoint is #1 as long as you havent killed anyone, you're qualified. If we start to nitpick, nobody qualifies to work for the government.
November 13, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
FreeNLovIt
I have hope. IF Bush and Cheney and their 2000 other applicants, qualify, we all qualify
November 13, 2008 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
Ken
Oh yeh. David and Independent: My socialist-in-chief trumps your nazi-in-chief any day of the year and any year of the century.
November 13, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
george from alaska
i filled out an application for a position with the obama administration and there was no lengthy form asking for the information called for in this article.
November 13, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
ldj
thanks for the heads up! i'll start the app in a hurry!
November 13, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
Common Sense
The application should state "if you are an ignorant racist confederate sympathizer, you need not apply". Or more simply, if you voted for McCain, don't even bother. Like the moron named "Independent but Leaning" or is it "Unintelligent and Learning"?
The country has put up with the failed Bush administration for the past 8 years. Give this new administration a chance and stop your crying and talking garbage. The fear and smear didn't work for McCain and it won't work here.
Other than that, have a nice day.
November 13, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
john marcato
In response to Independent but Leaning:
You have every right to your opinion and your vote for the public officials you support. I do find it concerning however that you comment about Obama being socialist or tied to terrorist or whatever.
While I feel you have every right to say so, I think it really lowers the bar of the national conversation. McCain, George Bush, and every fact finder organization has repudiated these charges and grossly over stated or down right false. Your argument sounds like you just listened to Rush Limbaugh or some other right wing rant show that profits from getting you all riled up. There is no more truth to this than the charge that Sarah Palin is not the mother of her son Trig. Its all just a smoke screen to prevent people like you and I from focusing on the real issues, finding our commonalities, and finding solutions. Best wishes
November 13, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
John Anthony
At least Obama knows how to vet-that's more than could be said for McCain.
November 13, 2008 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm |
Kiah G.
This is the most serious office in America. Why wouldn't it be detailed and thorough. He wants only the best and brightest!
November 13, 2008 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
future socialist country
This is going to be great, I won't even need to getup in the morning and drive an hour to and from work anymore. He will pay my mortgage,gas and health bills. This is the change our grandparents could of used back in the 30's and 40's. If they would of had a president like what we have just voted for, this country would be the most powerful country in the world. Ohhh wait, they would never have voted for someone like this, they actually went to work. Look what they gave us, and look what we will give our grandkids in the future. Hell we probably won't even be here. Wonder what this country will be called? Good job on electing this guy, good thing my company is sending me overseas for several years, and i will not witness this downfall, just hear about it.. have a great time.
November 13, 2008 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
AUSTIN,TX
independent but leaning–you need to let go and move on
November 13, 2008 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
Janey /proud American/michigan
The Great Obama is no longer a news item–boring, boring, boring. All we will hear from now on is which dog he will choose and which private school his girls will go to. Do we have to also support the mother-in-law? And why isn't he attending his grandma's memorial service? As Hilary used to say–the speeches are over-the real Obama will emerge–who will it be? the far left-wing guy or the middle whom he catered to after the primaries?
November 13, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
Danny, Oh
If you have something to hide, go work at McDonald's. This is a government job not Kmart.
If you can't beat, Just join.
November 13, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
nancy hughes
I don't believe this! He doesn't have a background and he wants a lengthy application?
where is his? This is such nonsense, what nerve he has! Well, guess he will accidentally hire someone like himself!
November 13, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
Kev, Golden, CO
Better than "What about George Bush inspires you to serve him?", as we saw in the justice department.
November 13, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
Liviu
Ther are several mistakes in the PDF application.
On page 6 paragraph "VII Domestic Help" the questions (54), (55) and (56) make reference to question (49) and it doesn't make sense.
They should refer to question(53).
November 13, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
Jeremiah
What Hypocricy !!!
Obama's CV is still incomplete despite the 2 long years of Campaigning.
Some questions remain unanswered.
WRIGHT.
AYRES
REZKO
ISLAM.
Now he wants your CV in full !!!
November 13, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
Hopeful for Tomorrow
@Tired of Spin - I don't think it says "Clinton." Looks like "Ch–something" to me. Anyway, that's probably someone else's note and is not on the applications that the applicants receive.
November 13, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
Eric
I beleive Lladmir Putin needs to send Obama his resume!
November 13, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
JO ANN
Great at least he want be surprise later on.
November 13, 2008 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
craig
This is only for his TOP people in the administration. if you've ever applied for a security clearance, which these people need, then most of the information is requested on there.
At least this administration vets the people they want working for them.
November 13, 2008 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
laura
David November 13th, 2008 11:58 am ET
Its no suprise. Look at all the dictators around the world and the similarities…..paranoia, mistrust, disdain for all those around them, and an iron-fisted control of the minions who do his bidding. Thanks to the 52% for voting in Stalin-lite.
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your welcome dear
November 13, 2008 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
CJ in FL
Still attacking the Republicans? You guys won, bask in the glory! Oh, that's right...if you actually stop to think about who you elected, it would scare the gravy out of you.
LOL, suckers! You should have done a better job vetting your Presidential candidate!
November 13, 2008 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
Milhouse van Houten
What were you expecting the application to look like?Any name will do
and maybe your favourite color.
November 13, 2008 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
Jesse from Santa Rosa
Yeah, I think he should just take all of the applicants to a big room and play musical chairs. Those who don't get a chair, don't get hired. That would show that he agrees with some of the tactics employed by the GOP. Also, if I were the first African American President, I would want to know everything about the people wanting to work closely with me. I am sure there are all kinds of evil folks plotting against him right now. It seems like a safety measure more than anything. He makes sound decisions at every turn. He is "The One".
November 13, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
Joe Unger, San Francisco
Sounds like Obama wants to be sure he had true "Obaks" on board.
This sounds just like the Bush administration process when they vetted people in order to only bring aboard true "Bushies." Do they have to sign a loyalty oath (to Obama) also?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
November 13, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
RealityKing
Can you say liberal litmus test??
November 13, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
S. Boatman Warrensburg, Mo.
This Is A Smart Way To Keep Out Stupid Republicans! Mccain Should Have Given Palin A Question Form Like This! Then He Would Have Known She Was Just A Square Jaw Idiot!
November 13, 2008 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
AUSTIN,TX
jm –how do you know how much obama was vetted?
November 13, 2008 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
young and informed independant
Already applied!!!
November 13, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
Jeff
I received the application and it was fairly straightforward. It asked for my job history, references, education, a copy of my resume, and then asked for the industries and agencies in which I've worked. Perhaps this was just step 1 (actually step 2), but I think CNN's reporting of this is a bit inaccurate.
Specifically, the longer "tell us everything" application is standard for anyone seeking a political position. Background checks are standard and, especially for those positions that require confirmation, can be extensive.
This is not something odd or unusual about the Obama administration. What's unusual is the fact that they are accepting applications from anyone. Usually, administrations don't ask for application. They simply seek out individuals (friends, past co-workers, significant campaign workers) that they already know.
November 13, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
Brandon from Ohio
I don't really blame them for having such a long application. They want to ensure they don't get applicants like Palin getting past the interview process like she did w/ John McLiar.
November 13, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
Love My USA/Do You?
Why did n't they do this to BO? The american people are still asking the question, Who is BO?
November 13, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
So what
It's extremely thorough....so what!?! Might as well disclose everything because the media, political figures, etc. will and they will scrutinize every appointment he makes. This way he will know about his appointments' skeletons before it airs on primetime news. I say if you don't like it then don't apply! Simple as that!
November 13, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
Ken
What an honor to be able to serve Mr. Obama and the American public. No question is off limits, we need to completly vet everyone and anyone who has an interest in serving this great nation of ours. We need to make sure that there are no hidden agendas.
November 13, 2008 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
Goodson
If only McCain had made Sarah Palin complete one of those forms.
Maybe she wouldn't have made the ticket.
next time, vet your candidates like the democrats.
democrats are progressives, so their's absolutely no room for error
November 13, 2008 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
30-m-PA-Democrat-voted McCain
No way would I want a job with this man. CBS news put a story this morning stating that Hillary would have won by a wider margin if she was up against McCain. The Democrats picked the weaker candidate. Unbelievable. If the media was actually neutral, Obama wouldn't have made it past the primaries. Also, the CBS news story noted that 26% of Democrats voted for McCain.
November 13, 2008 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
mike
I cannot wait for the liberal media to start eating their own, that being obama. He even thinks about leaving the left to move to the middle they will be at this throat. However, I do not expect him to leave the left so he will have his one term like jimmy carter.
November 13, 2008 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
Meagan
So because Obama wants to make sure the people in his admin have up to date gun registrations and appropriately filed tax returns, he's a dictator? Dems have always had to have a CYA attitude when in office because Repubs look for any and every opportunity to point out their faults and skew their public image.
November 13, 2008 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
Georgia Gal
Yes, this is quite a job application with alot of very personal questions, but its not like these people are applying to work at Wal-Mart, McDonalds or even a high profile company like CNN or someplace like that. These people would be applying for a job to work for the President of the United States. At any time in history a job working for the President should require quite a bit of questioning that you would not receive at another job, but at this time in history I honestly would be surprised if they didn’t ask questions like this.
November 13, 2008 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
Kel in Auburn, AL
This is meaty. President-Elect Obama knows how to run an organization. Especially a government administration. This guy's stuff is watertight.
November 13, 2008 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
Franky
I'm still waiting for that application.
And no, my record is clean and my credentials are like no other. I mean, Warren G. Harding ain't got nothing on me! LOL!! I'll be someone like him...I said "tried", O.K? LOL!!
November 13, 2008 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
Tabi
I can only be satisfied with the application process if I am tapped-in for a position in the Obama administration. I am well qualified though an ordinary citizen.
November 13, 2008 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
dizizi31
Devils in the details just ask Monica what she put on her application. He should probably ask for character references.
November 13, 2008 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
NV
So would the post I made a few days ago about zombies on a gaming forum be held against me? hahaha
November 13, 2008 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
Vikki - San Antonio, TX
I too have received the full application and have seen nothing like this.
It does not look too far out of line but I have one question, where are the first few pages and requests for information?
This document looks a little made up to me, there is no mention of Obama or president elect or transition team until near the end, also the document says Obama transition foundation and everything on change.gov says Obama-Biden Transition team.
What do y'all think?
November 13, 2008 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
tylenol666
Only the Best for the Best!
Go Obama!
November 13, 2008 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
Unafilliated Pagan
Hmmm
1) Yes, many of these questions would be problematic (or possibly illegal) to ask as a private employer. The government plays by different rules.
2) I suspect that this is just an initial screening question set. As TC notes, a full Security Clearance document is considerably longer and much more intrusive. (Also, providing false info on one of those is a Federal offence.)
3) I don't see how owning a gun disqualifies someone. Illegaly owning one might.
3) Yes, this does blur the line between public and private information. And that is troubling. OTOH, I suspect that the responses to this questionnaire will be kept secret (even from misguided FOIA requests). The public does not have a "right to know" about every applicant, and only a limited right to know about actual hires.
4) I think that the Obama administration-preparers are doing the right thing here. They are trying to reduce the chances of a "Nannygate" or other media-driven quasi-scandal like the Clinton and Bush administrations did. It shows to me that this adminstration has apparently learned from the mistakes of the past. (Which won't prevent them from making new ones, or finding new ways to make old mistakes - that's life as a human.)
November 13, 2008 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia
If you have ever applied for a government job, the application is an open book to your life–they leave no stones unturned. And by the time you finished the lengthly application–someone has already filled the position–good luck to the applicants.
November 13, 2008 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
Emily
I wonder how long it will take before we see this questionairre on Myspace bulletins HAHAHAHA.
(Sorry I couldn't help myself)
November 13, 2008 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
john marcato
I think this is pretty much a non issue. Its barely news worthy. Why not replace it with substantive reporting on what experts (not pundits) think about what specific scenarios will play out with certain policy decisions. Like, what will SPECIFICALLY happen if we don't bail out GM.
November 13, 2008 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
Way To Go Mr. President!!!
as for Independent but Leaning.......you still blogging? or you just pulled your head off the sand?
November 13, 2008 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
St Louis for Obama
How is this more vetting than the Pres-elect went through? That doesn't even make any sense. If you believe that you're just not very intelligent. But hey, look who your party picked for VP. Someone who was not vetted or intelligent.
November 13, 2008 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
AMK
did you read the handwriting next to #31, the disclosure of all finances??? it says "Clinton".....ha.
November 13, 2008 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
grahame
In reply it Obama #uno perhaps it would be better to remember.
John F Kennedy when he said,
"Ask not what your country can do for you? But ask what you can do for your country."
While it's obvious you don't like Democrats then you had better get used to it, of course you can always go and live somewhere else.
After all the Republicans picked Sarah Palin/George Bush/Carl Rove/Dick Chaney, and that great military mind Donald (Duck) Rhumsfeld.
I rest my case
November 13, 2008 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
Swede
Now why do they need to know if you, or a family member, own a gun? I shake my head... This is the beginning of a bad 4 years. PE Obama made many promises these last few months, but the realities of the world cannot be ignored, and when he is unable to fulfill all those promises then what? The Pledge states "One nation under God", time to start praying...
November 13, 2008 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
indianapolis
hey david...shouldn't you be more worried about getting out to stock up on your guns...or tuning in to the conservative talk radio haters for some brainwashing...or just some general bad-mouthing of what was a truly landslide of a victory as opposed to the "52%" reference you made? Oh wait, you are doing the latter.
November 13, 2008 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
1/20/13
That will be tough since many people who voted for Obama can not read.......Though I am willing to bet 95% of the people who apply are more qualified to be President then him.
Shouldnt he have to clean up Chicago before he thinks he can clean up th eUS
November 13, 2008 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
Brian from Fort Mill, SC
Get with it! November 13th, 2008 11:51 am ET
Wow….sounds interesting. If I get the job, who gets the paycheck? Hmmm….
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Joe the Plumber gets half, and Hillary Clinton gets the other half (just kidding!)
November 13, 2008 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
Independent but Leaning
Candy West Virginia- I have said nothing untrue. Obama has those connections, and he (not I, but HE) said he wants an armed civilian security force that is as well funded and equipped as the US military. That's exactly what the German S.A. was.
I know the truth hurts, but it's not "lies, cheats, steals, smears and hates," as you call it.
Think of it this way: would you want that force to carry over and answer to a Republican president? Would you have wanted Bush to have raised a civilian para-military force like that?
No. And neither would I.
November 13, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
Scott Tucson
If Obama was just a simple Southside Chicago lawyer applying for a White House position, after filling out this application do you really think he would be selected for a job there??
November 13, 2008 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
Anita from Arizona
Sounds like good vetting skills.... WINK WINK, at the Republicans..
November 13, 2008 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
Jeff, New York, NY
Here comes Barry Hitler...already with this Gestapo like tactics.
God, I love socialism. So easy to spot and the best part is, you get to watch the lambs go to slaughter.
November 13, 2008 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
1/20/13
Will ACORN be providing "temps" you know the dead and home less ones that voted numerous times for him under many names
November 13, 2008 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
Noah
Apparently if you want a job in the Obama White House your resume has to be longer than Obama's!
November 13, 2008 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
Debby
Thanks but no thanks. LOL
November 13, 2008 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
I'm an American American
Obama.. WOO!!! with the changes he supports in the bailout we'll be that much closer to China's socialist economy!!! oh wait... I thought we were a free market..? no wait.. This early trend in policy will have dire consequences down the road. So many radical governmental evolutions began with supposed subtle changes. This form is just to make sure his people are of like minds and will not challenge his policy. Wait.. that kind of sounds like a dating service...
November 13, 2008 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
Angela
I am a federal employee, and yes it takes a LONG time to process an employment application and get hired. So I can only imagine the process when applying for a position that will be in such limelight.
For those of you who have no experience with the Fed. government employment process, stop making this so negative!
November 13, 2008 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
PHS in RI
If McCain knew how to vet like Obama does, Palin would have been dismissed after the first round of interviews.
November 13, 2008 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
Yamini Balachandran
As a Grandma, I was really proud to see a woman on the GOP ticket.
Let us pray that Palin will stand for 2012 and we SURE will elect her this time... I will work for her administration rather
God Bless us all....
(if not anything, I will get to shop in Neiman Marcu )
November 13, 2008 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
Glenn Doty, Columbia, SC
To "Travis Johns"
Concerning question 16; it requires listing any memberships WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS, not WITHIN YOUR LIFETIME.
The idea is that people can make mistakes as a teenager, and be respected members of society FOR 40 YEARS, and they still have quite a bit to offer.
In short: grow up and shut up. The grown-ups are finally back in charge.
November 13, 2008 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
SOUTHERN HOTTIE
I'm waiting for the America Serves opportunities to open up.
Everybody, check out change.gov
I love that our President-Elect is on the up and up on technology.
Well, it looks like we will get the change we wanted. I wonder why everyone i have talked to that is successful, moved their money out of U.S. accounts. Everyone knows he will raise your taxes and penalize those you make a little over 100k. People, that is about the average income for a normal household for a two income family. I noticed the long lines of people who voted that don't work, and will never work. It was all about race, and your uneducated if you think otherwise. Doors are closing for Circuit City, Starbucks, and many more stores. We are screwed, and looking at the stats for the people who voted for The Amazing Obama, you got the idea. Great job guys. You wanted the change, you got it. "we will make it, it may not be today or tomorrow, but we will make it" nothing but a racial statement. MAKE WHAT????????
November 13, 2008 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
Vicky from Milwaukee
Independent by learning. You're an idiot! Go away, Alaska maybe.
November 13, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
jay in milwaukee
To get a job with a major bank I have had to fill out questionnaire almost as long as this. Basically they want to know everything you did, said, bought or owe, for the last 10 years. And this was just to work as a service agent for a bank. So, no shock that to get a job working within a stones throw of the commander of the free world, you have to provide a lot of details about your self. Good. We dont want any unpleasant surprises to pop up.
November 13, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
Old white lady in Birmingham, AL
In this day of extreme partisanship one has to be careful.
November 13, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
forrest kimbrough
The republican leaning weather underground fought abortion rights in the late 60's when barak was eight years old..Bush Mc cain had ties to the PLO and Hamas ..Bush helped Hamas with his nation building demacracy...when elections were held Hamas won..sell your heroin addicted limbaugh theories to some one else were full up till the inauguraion
November 13, 2008 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
msbea
Independent but Leaning..people like you make me sick
November 13, 2008 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
email4kh
This is a reasonable application for someone who doesn't want to end up with someone like Sarah Palin on his staff. McCain could've used this document.
November 13, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
SOUTHERN HOTTIE
....ya think Palin will apply?
November 13, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
Steve
For those of you who are constantly implying that Obama is going to be a dictator I'd suggest three things: 1. Learn about our country's political system 2. Get psychiatric help. 3. Get some sunshine.
All the time you're going crazy about Obama, President Bush just signed into law a regulation that allows police and other law enforcement agencies to spy on you without probable cause, and without telling anyone they're doing it, until they come and drag you away. WHO is promoting a police state?!?!?!
November 13, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
No Phony Independent (AKA GOP)
Independent but leaning..
Can't let it go can you..Shall we talk about your loser in chief "ties" to Keating 5 and inapproriate gifts, etc.. shall we talk about half a mil the rebublican comittee Mccain chaired gave $500,000 to terrorist HAMAS..right wing dingbats and ignorant folks like you are the reason why we have 364 electroral collge votes.. keep it up because we need 2012 as well.. you'll wake up tomorrow and OBAMA will still be POTUS (elect).. Deal with it.
November 13, 2008 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
Youtubby
CNN, again, this is getting ridiculous..I am talking about the Palin coverage. I know that the more people who click on the story, the more you think you have to run the story just so you can get readers. But to be completely honest, the majority of those clicking are clicking to tell you how fed up they are with your coverage of her. So please do us all a favor and stop the madness. I know at least 10 people including myself who have started switching the channel everytime her name comes up on your network. Please lets focus on the important things happening ie the economy, the war, etc. Those are really more desired news stories than Palin this, Palin that. If you dont have a story, heck do one on the soldiers dying in Iraq.
November 13, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
Paul, Riverside, CA
Note to GOP, use this when vetting future VP picks.
November 13, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
paul (staunch Moderate)
This list of requested information is nothing compared to what I went through in getting cleared for my position in the military almost 40 years ago....
November 13, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
Allan G.
How come he doesn't have to fill out a lengthy application. All he had to do was have a fit if anyone asked him of his background, and the media came to his rescue...Stick to issues!...Stick to the issues!....
No way could this guy get a security clearance in my day. Admit to using drugs, or say more than one word to a known communist, let alone terrorist, and... NO CLEARANCE FOR YOU...NEXT
November 13, 2008 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
Joanna
Oh boy, That is a long one. I am working on mine.
November 13, 2008 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
janine
Do people actually know what the meaning of socialism is? Do they know the ties that McCain and Paling have?
LOL at the people who are still calling Obama a socialist. They don't realize that socialism already exists in the United States and these were implemented by Republicans.
November 13, 2008 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
Jeff from Jersey
It's better that they all come clean now rather than wait until they are indicted.Far too many have thought that they wouldn't get caught with their dirty laundry only to find that the smell gave them away.
MR.PRESIDENT-ELECT,
It's a good start.There will be those that will still lie anyway but you'll scare some of the worst off before they get a job they shouldn't have.Those that still lie will have their lies on paper so you can easily give them the boot if it comes out that they did have something to hide.
It's a step in the right direction in getting rid of corruption in government and I applaud you for it!
November 13, 2008 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
Stara
You should be proud of a detail orianted chief, a person who really wants to be a leader, wants to select only the best and surounding himself with the best by vetting properly.
Government is NOT the job of ANY hollow person. It needs a lot of talent and focus such as we see in Obama to start it Right.
November 13, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
Ryan - Troy, MI
Since someone as inexperienced as Obama can become President, maybe I can become the Secretary of State!!
Faye, NV – RELAX!! Everyone bashed McCain and Palin so it's fair to get on Obama a bit. It's just in fun. I'm not leaving this country but if you don't believe in free speech maybe you should go.
November 13, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
Independent
Nothing wrong with being thorough, but it is only fair to note that when people in America (not just right-wing nutjobs, but actual independent thinkers) spoke up and wanted to know the same about Obama, the media and the left-wingers drowned them out. They kept saying how Obama's been in news coverage for the past two years. While that may be true, that doesn't mean the media was giving us anything substantial and this detailed IN the news coverage.
We don't know this much about Obama, and it's my opinion that applying for the job of the president should require more vetting than any other job.
I still support him, though, and like I said there's nothing wrong with this level of vetting. He's our president
November 13, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
Nobama
It's funny how all the followers said he's not my president when Bush was elected but now everyone that doesn't agree with BO has to shut up and take it? Typical liberal; always so "open-minded" and "accepting" unless you don't agree with them and then you are just scum or, worse, a republican. This country is doomed
November 13, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
hitobito
This application is nothing compared to the application and scrutiny I underwent went I went to work for a branch of the US government that specializes in espionage. And I already had a Top Secret Codeword Special Intelligence clearance when I applied! I wonder if that employment would disqualify me for a position in the Obama Administration? Nevermind, I'm way too old now anyway!
November 13, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
jamaica watch
he has a large task, needs the best minds down to the least person to surround him
i have filled out applications that are more than 9 pages, if you want the job, it will not stop you. Go Mr President-elect
November 13, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
Tired of Repubs
I guess, if you can't find anything more substantial to criticize than a page count, Obama must be doing pretty well indeed.
November 13, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
Tom
Why does it say "Clinton" in the margin?
November 13, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
NoPalin
David "paranoia, mistrust, disdain for all around them, iron-fisted control" You have just described the Bush administration to a tee. Fascism personified, and if he had his way, he would be dictator-in-chief. I don't know about you, but I look forward to an administration that reads and understands and lives by the Constitution, instead of the current one that just ignored the parts that held them accountable to US, and rewrote the rest to suit them and their rich cronies around the world. Obama is trying to find qualified, honest, Americans for these jobs, not hiring his cronies and cronies from daddy's administration. I am thankful.
November 13, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
Ian Vandendool
That's tremendous. Think about it, if Obama is that meticulous with the people he brings onto his staff, imagine how tight he'll be fiscally. I'd love to see him uncover a huge pile of taxpayers' money. Think of every dollar put into a bus, every cent of tax on a can of Pepsi, every person's cheque every payday.. every single day taxes are paid and maybe it'll take a democrat to make every dime it go to work.
November 13, 2008 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
Matt
Lets be clear....CNN states this is an application however this is merely a questionaire and we have no clue on what positions this is for? Most likely this is for Cabinet faced positions.
Where is the rest of the documents?
November 13, 2008 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
Liberian in Toronto
To ALL the bloggers complaining about the Obama's vetting questionnaire, how the heck is he going to change how business is done in Washington if he does not put in place a thorough vetting process? Do you guys/ gals favor patronage appointment or do you guys/gals want ALL those with clean record in government? I have read the entire document and there is nothing wrong with the questionnaire, considering what went in the last 8 years of Bush's adminstration...
November 13, 2008 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
Bridgette-PA
Well, I guess I'll never get a job with the Obama Administration because I have defended him for 21 months on the blogs! The things that I have written were not nice. Even though I was defending OBAMA!
November 13, 2008 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
maynard hopkins wi
wHO WOULD WANT TO WORK FOR THIS PERSON ANYWAY. HE HAS TO MANY TIES TO CORRUPT PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE U.S.A.
November 13, 2008 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
Georgia Girl
Obama has to do this because all of you hate filled right wing nuts are going to lie in waiting for any and eveything to jump on him for. God forbid he hired someone that happened to be in the same room as someone who might have done something, then those folks will be all over him. He is just making sure he doesn't give people any reason to start up on him.
November 13, 2008 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
Vic
I'll work for his administration for free!
November 13, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
nancy hughes
I will tell you libs who is doing the vetting...Michelle. She's the boss and is she ever after Whitey. You got what you wished for and now we just have to sit and see what CHANGE AND HOPE mean. So far that's all you voted for or saw in this man's great speeches, hope and change we can believe in! You guys think you are sick of Palin you have no idea how sick we are of those words or obama's loud pastoral voice.
November 13, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
Hillary supporter for obama
It is a smart thing to do and should be done by everyone in office when fielding for jobs... We would be very stupid to hire anyone without knowing their complete background. We wouldn't have so many people with unregistered hand guns or unsafe airports attended by untrained idiots if management were doing the same with their hires!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Too bad the McCain couldn't have done as good a job vetting their VP choice.
I want to be apart of the Adminstration of true change ..... send me the application I will complete with bells on no worries ;0)
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
Looks like if you have a gun or your family member has a gun or if you know some one who owns a gun you can't a get a job with the president-elect.
I agree Will from NYC; the McCain camp dropped the ball in choosing Palin and not properly vetting her. Their campaign had more than enough time to select the best second in command candidate.
he has to make sure there are no neocons sneaking in to infect the presidency with stoopidity.
Independant but leaning: You are the idiot if you believe all the crap that the GOP was feeding you.
Given the state of our country, I'll gladly take anything that resembles a little socialism right about now.
I wonder how many of the questions on this application violate some type of employment law...like discrimination based on health...
Hey independant where did you flunk out of school?
It amazes me how poorly read the people of this country really are.
You can LOL at the people who voted for him all you want but he is YOUR President too...if you live out of the country, then your opinion is irrelevant...
No one will have a problem with completing the application nor subjecting themselves to background checks and if they don't they should be smart enough to know not to apply....
It's not like Obama will be personally hiring the people in the lower level positions...geesh....
If Obama had filled out a 7 page questionaire, would he had been able to run for President?
I think Suzzane Malveaux is hot and apparently she does one hell of a job too.
indy but leaning= republicanatsi. your party just gave $700,000,000,000.00 to to financial institutions. socialism? your party has spied on its own people, and sent our military into a sovereign nation,based on lies. they have tortured people. so, who is the fan of the german SA? i'm afraid you and yours are the hiltler lovers!
Stop hating, he's your President Obama also. The people have voted and it is over. Therefore get over it or move to another Country.
Independent but Leaning....................I'm sorry. But are you talking about George Bush and Paulson( biggest soclialists), or John McCain palling around with terroist (Sarah Palin and the first Dude).
Join the train of "Hope" and Lean forward!
The GOP should take notes on how real vetting is done.
I'm really sick of the conservatives saying Obama is a 'socialist.' Socialism has already been enacted by the Republicans when they 'redistributed the wealth' to the rich with Bush's tax cuts for the rich. Why are they so against having an educated man in the White House? Probably because they'll be found out for the lying, corrupt, cronyism crooks they are. Our economy is in the toilet because of their 'Socialism' and failed economic policies. Their only hope is to keep repeating the factless lies that seem to be the only thing they have left.
Um, I applied through change.gov and saw nothing like this application. There is no PDF questionnaire. There are no requests for tax returns or blog posts. I did fill out a 10 page (give or take) online questionnaire with all the standard questions any new job would ask. Now I may not have received all requests for information yet, but you may want to double check your sources.
I like the transparency and accountability being forged by the Obama administration.
--OBAMA AND ALL HIS --G HATING SUPPORTERS.THIS IS THE --ING UNITY OBAMA BRINGS IN HIS SUPPORTERS. THIS COUNTRY IS MORE DIVIDED THAN EVER. THE ONLY UNITY IS IN HIS PARTY, HIS --ING YOUNG SUPPORTERS MAKE THE OTHERSIDE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH UNITY. ITS ALL THE --ING HATERS FAUGHT.THEY HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT THE OTHERSIDE. --YOUR UNITY. THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO FALL WORST THAN EVER. I HOPE THROUGH ALL THE --ING HATERS THAT THE REP'S DONT HELP THE OTHERSIDE AT ALL. LET THEM --THIS COUNTRY UP BY THEMSELVES. THE DEMS BLAME THE REP'S TO LONG ,AND THEY WERE PART OF THE 8YRS. TOO. THATS THE PROBLEM WITH THE DEMS,THEY CANT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR FAUGHTS. JUST LIKE THEIR LEADER TO BE.REP'S TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND WALL STREET WAS A BIG PROBLEM BY THEMSELVES.
Ohh the Obama hypocrisy......!
Fork over every detail of your life!
If Barak Hussein Obama had done that on the campaign, he never would have been elected!
Dems have no shame
Still attacking Palin, huh, Will in NYC. Consider that source, an Obama lock step area. Keep attacking Palin, you will keep her in the media and in the public eye.
Wonderful that Obama is requiring so much detail from his job applicants.
Too bad Obama hasn't provided the same info himself.
So the Obama application is a real novel, eh? Then why is the application for corporations to get in on the government bailout money only 2 pages long!?!?! I wish CNN would check up on this.
But of course, Everyone has to be vetted. Easy one to understand.
This is understandable as only the best would want the best.
And to Independent but Leaning – you still don't get it that America rejected your 'kind' that lies, cheats, steals, smears and hates. You are part of a dying breed, your voices are being drowned out. See ya, surely wouldn't want to be ya!
GO BARACK!!! Finally, we have an administration that believes in vetting the applicants! Finally, an intelligent president-elect.
Thank you Democrats!!!!
I'll answer the questions in my secret language that only Republicans can understand. Who cares what the questions are, I'll give em the straight talk that their just dying for. Here goes...
My concern has been the atrocities there in Darfur and the relevance to me with that issue as we spoke about Africa and some of the countries there that were kind of the people succumbing to the dictators and the corruption of some collapsed governments on the continent, the relevance was Alaska’s investment in Darfur with some of our permanent fund dollars.
But this forking over of details did not apply to Obama himself, nor did the media demand it, nor did the American people who just put their collective heads in the sand on this one.
Obama is nothing but rhetoric and a bumper sticker slogan.
He's worth it. No drama Obama.
So they are being thourough. No shock there
I had a friend apply for the FBI and the questions they ask and digging they do is A LOT worse than this. I think Obama is trying to pre-screen folks so if they clearly do not qualify, they do not have to start the FBI process for vettng and security clearances that are time consuming and expensive.
Good move on his part.
Interesting. That's more information and vetting then Obama's been through.
President-Elect Barack Obama is making no mistakes..
Congrats president!!!
People– it's time to get past the hateful comments.
Has no one noticed the condition this country is in?
We need to start working TOGETHER to get us back on the right track. And CIVILITY might be a really good place to start!!!!!!!!!!
To Independent but Leaning:
Sour grapes are not becoming.
Independent:
Don't worry about it...I'm sure Klan members like yourself won't be hired either.
He is under more scruitiny than any president-elect historically. It is smart to choose his staff wisely. Some people (Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly) are just waiting to pounce on even the slightest miststep and twist it out of proportion.
Obviously none of you have ever applied for a DOD job that requires a security clearance. Did you expect a job app at the Commander of Chief's office would be one page. How naive you are.
Independent but Leaning
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
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Still riding on that waive of fear huh?
The first person Barack should hire is a fashion consultant for his wife. If Michelle comes out with another scary dress (and a sweater) like that election night number, American women are doomed. Unfortunately she is representing our fashion style–and not in a good way.
Isn't this the party that supports the right to privacy?
While I am an Obama supporter, it is interesting that many of the questioned asked on the application are illegal for most private employers.
Quit your whining...My gosh...you right wing nut jobs just can't let it go. You're about as independent as Joe the Loser was...
FUNNY-
Number 16.... William Ayers?? Didn't matter to Obama why should it affect who he hires!
Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
"I'm going to pray for you my brother. It appears you have social problem yourself".
i hope my posts here don't hurt my chances
are you now, or have you ever been a terrorist?? If so, when can you start??
sign me up im an open book...
To: Independent but Leaning,
Hate to point this out to you but you're an IDIOT!. You obviously need to come with more then insane RND talking point; After 8 years of a government run by criminals, thugs and murders you should silent. It's IDIOTS like you that got us into this mess. You should be arrested along with the entire Bush administration and sent to jail. RIDICULOUS.
Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
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C'mon, your spam is showing... you're nothing but a troll artist, trying to rile us up... if you really believed this, you'd leave the country or at least say something of substance. Begone, flamer.
Independent but Learning–Here's a list of things you can learn while you are at it:
1. Factcheck.org – will explain that every claim you make in your post is complete fiction.
2. Bigotry is very unflattering.
3. You can disagree with Obama's policies without being so hateful and mean, even if you hero, Palin, can't.
4. Obama is our president regardless of what you think of him, so learn how to respect others, rather than name calling.
5. Only stipid people make points by name-calling. You want to futher your view, educate yourself and make intellegent points.
6. The reason why your party (obvious republican, not indepent) is losing is because there is a serious lack of smart and congenial people in it, just like you.
I like how some of their questions are probably ILLEGAL!! Most employers can't ask those questions of their employees. Just like him to go above the law, I guess.
LOL.. I just to see the trolls show their hatred for Obama. Anytime i see those post it lets me know that hes doing something right.
Note to Barack:
If you see Michelle leave the house in the following, lock her in a closet:
1. Print dresses (great style, not for first ladies)
2. Multi-colored dresses (especially like the election nightmare dress)
3. Sweaters of any kind (she needs jackets)
4. Dangling earrings (not appropriate unless it's a formal)
5. Wedge heeled shoes (not appropriate for first lady)
6. Neon dresses (like that red-orange dress she wore to the WH)
7. Stripes of any kind (especially horizontal ones)
8. Tight dresses (unless she's alone with you, this is not good)
Just lock Michelle in the closet and tell the press you don't know what happened to her.
Oh please independent give it a rest. Your tired rhetoric is not going to help things any more than dems gloating over the Obama win. I held my tongue for 8 years while I saw president Bush turn our country towards the biggest downward spiral we've seen in almost 30 years. The least you can do is close your mouth until President-Elect Obama has been in office for at least one year. Another thing, take the energy you use for your tired, boring rhetoric and do something useful in your community for those less fortunate than you. That can be your contribution to change.
So Obama wants people who get his coffee to give out more personal details about themselves than he was willing to give out in a run for President?
Just one question: Why does it say "Clinton" on the left hand side of pg 4 by question 31 under Section IV. Financial information?!
Question 8: “Briefly describe the most controversial matters you have been involved with during the course of your career.”
I'd love to see Palin or McCain try and apply and get by this question with no problems. They'd probably need a couple or sheets to type everything out.
I requested an application to serve on the Obama/Biden administration on Tuesday, November 11, 2008. This morning I received the application. It took me approximately 30 minutes or less to complete. I would be honored to serve our new President's administration in what ever capacity I qualify for. They even had the Peace Corps as an area for service.
Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET
That's great given how little we know about our socialist in chief.
I'm sure nobody with ties to the PLO, Hamas, or domestic terrorists like the Weather Underground will get through the screening process.
LOL at the people who voted for him. I never realized we had so many fans of the German S.A. in America.
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You need not apply, because he checks the blogs, too!
If I were you, I'd keep quiet until they make an offer!
@Independent but Leaning - He's not a socialist. Brian Moore, the candidate for the SOCIALIST PARTY, was a socialist. In fact, Moore stated himself that Obama's policies did not reflect socialism.
As for "ties" to these groups, find reliable sources for them. Reliable sources. Not a post on your cousin's blog.
And as for your last comment, it's obvious that you've already decided to hate the President Elect, and are now trying to justify it with whatever fabricated story you can find.
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't the the Republicans use this as an outline for vetting their people? LIKE THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE USA???
Wow....sounds interesting. If I get the job, who gets the paycheck? Hmmm....
I wonder if a DWI would exclude someone?
Agree with Obama or not, he is putting the same comprehensive effort into his employee hiring as he did his campaign. It will be tough to have any skeletons in the closets after truthfully completing this form.
I must say, its thorough....everything but blood and urine sampling! LOL
This is just as much (if not more so) about collecting ammunition for use against potential employees who might fall out of favour with the Administration at some point in the future as is it about legitimately checking out applicants.
@"Independent but Leaning" 11:20 am ET:
Grow up.
Hummm, did Obama give such details to his background I think not. Will the Obama Civil Corp., be asking such details so we don't end up with a new army of Liberal Nazi's, such hypocrocy. 1/21/09, from that date on its Obama/Biden that will be bashed if the Economy and all the related problems don't get better, so lets see THE ONE, Mr Brillance fix and deliver on all his campain speeches.
2012
re: Independent but Leaning November 13th, 2008 11:20 am ET:
I understand your still hurt. Get over it, sometimes you lose other times you win, it wasn't your term this time around.
Oh. My. Lord.
No way I could work for this administration as I wouldn't be able to come up with half the stuff they are asking for. I mean ... good gosh ... blog posts???
Yeah, that's more information than he had to fork over. Oh, and mitch, it's stupidity, not stoopidity.
It's time to select employees with a bit more than a wink and a handshake and campaign donation – look what the Republicans got – Cheney, Palin, back-biting staffers in the McCain campaign, Lieberman, need we go on?
You should see Florida's Pinellas County's Application... Eleven pages. Florida's state application is on-line and is defaulted at four pages, but you can make it longer depending on your job history.
Oh can it, Independent.
You have been spouting that nonsense for over a month on here (at least...that's only as long as I've been reading). If you don't know anything about the President-Elect yet, then you haven't been paying attention.
I want a new job with BARACK, all i will receive on payday will be CHANGE.
This is business as usual for a true executive in charge. This kind of appropriate attention to detail is part of the reason the Obama campaign ran nearly flawlessly. Planning is generally better than shooting from the hip when you are in charge of the greatest nation in the free world.
This is going to be such a great administration!
Its no suprise. Look at all the dictators around the world and the similarities.....paranoia, mistrust, disdain for all those around them, and an iron-fisted control of the minions who do his bidding. Thanks to the 52% for voting in Stalin-lite.
OBAMA RULES THE WORLD, HAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE
what would they do with obamas answers?
On a typical work day, do you wear a) Boxers , or b) Briefs?
Please list the brand and date of purchase of all Underwear.
Has your underwear been fabricated in a foreign nation, if so state the country of fabrication and state your reason for buying foreign underwear.
Has your underwear been involved in any sort of controversy in the past, or does your underwear have any criminal charges against, if so, have they been fully pardoned.
If the above does not apply to you, please state your reasoning for going commando...
hehe, just kidding, I'm impressed with the process though, it would be a little tough to find out all of your blog posts though. Still, I hope it works well.
Why is it surprising that you have to fill out a thorough application to work for Obama? He's going to be President of the United States. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want any unnecessary scandals. Understandably. Haven't we had enough drama for a while?
Independent but Leaning you need to apply for a job with President elect Obama administration and stop the hate. It seems that you really hate yourself because, God say to love thou brother as thou self.
Or maybe you should lean toward the GOP, because their next leader will be the Antichrist. Think goodness I will not be around to see it. I'm praying very hard to be rapture when Jesus returns for his bride.
#59 What does the fact that someone owns a firearm have to do with anything?
I take issue with many of the questions on that "application", good thing I would never fill it out. Obama may be the President-elect and as such will have my respect for the position but not the person. I would like to see his responses to this application.
I can understand vetting someone for any possible conflict of interest for the job, but it looks like they just want the "right" people. Looks kind of discriminating to me.
Don't see anything wrong with the length of the application. If anyone has ever filled out security clearance paperwork before than they know this is a piece of cake.
Hey Independent But Leaning, you can laugh all you want at me. But my man is in power now. So have your little laugh if that makes losers like you feel better.
And just to get the historical perspective correct, Nazi Germany was a RIGHTWING regime that slowly gained power though hate and fear mongering. Sound familiar?.....or are YOU too near the speakers to have any perspective? Mr. Bush, and all his little rightwing lemmings like you, indeed had America going down political and clutural paths that had much in common with Germany of the 1920s. Unlike Germany though, enough of the American people woke up in 2008 and diverted the rightwing [R] disaster that you so fondly continue to support. So keep laughing you neo-moron.
@Independent – Your comments are way out of line and completely uncalled for. To equaite Americans, just like yourself, regardless of politicacl affiliation, to Nazi Stormtroopers, is cowardly and you are abusing your First Amendment rights. Just because you can say it, doesn't mean you should parrot Congressman Broun.
As for the Obama application, this is no different than any other government app.
Forking over every detail about your life? Hmmm. Since when did that matter to Obama? In the past, there have only been two questions to work with or be friends with Obama:
1. What is your name?
2. Do you have a pulse?
With Obama, stupid need not apply. Thank God!
McCain should have sent Palin this questionnaire before he picked her. Could have saved himself some nasty surprises.
I applied!! but who knows i probably won't get a call, :"-( I'll be positive !!!
Don't worry. Plenty of jobs available.
I see now that Obama wants money for the automakers and a new czar to oversee (isn't czar typically a communist/socialist term?...hmmm). Anyways, we will have a huge government under Obama. Huge. Plenty of jobs to micromanage every detail. Lots of money will be needed though. Get your checkbooks ready America. 2010, tax cuts expire, all of ours will need to go up to pay for these programs and new jobs. Get ready folks.
not a bad idea at all. u want u job? better be qualify we already have mess to clean up.
By the time I fill the application, I can easily graduate with a PhD degree.
Its ridiculous.
This is amazing. With all these extreme measures, our government is still not perfect. My personal viewpoint is #1 as long as you havent killed anyone, you're qualified. If we start to nitpick, nobody qualifies to work for the government.
I have hope. IF Bush and Cheney and their 2000 other applicants, qualify, we all qualify
Oh yeh. David and Independent: My socialist-in-chief trumps your nazi-in-chief any day of the year and any year of the century.
i filled out an application for a position with the obama administration and there was no lengthy form asking for the information called for in this article.
thanks for the heads up! i'll start the app in a hurry!
The application should state "if you are an ignorant racist confederate sympathizer, you need not apply". Or more simply, if you voted for McCain, don't even bother. Like the moron named "Independent but Leaning" or is it "Unintelligent and Learning"?
The country has put up with the failed Bush administration for the past 8 years. Give this new administration a chance and stop your crying and talking garbage. The fear and smear didn't work for McCain and it won't work here.
Other than that, have a nice day.
In response to Independent but Leaning:
You have every right to your opinion and your vote for the public officials you support. I do find it concerning however that you comment about Obama being socialist or tied to terrorist or whatever.
While I feel you have every right to say so, I think it really lowers the bar of the national conversation. McCain, George Bush, and every fact finder organization has repudiated these charges and grossly over stated or down right false. Your argument sounds like you just listened to Rush Limbaugh or some other right wing rant show that profits from getting you all riled up. There is no more truth to this than the charge that Sarah Palin is not the mother of her son Trig. Its all just a smoke screen to prevent people like you and I from focusing on the real issues, finding our commonalities, and finding solutions. Best wishes
At least Obama knows how to vet-that's more than could be said for McCain.
This is the most serious office in America. Why wouldn't it be detailed and thorough. He wants only the best and brightest!
This is going to be great, I won't even need to getup in the morning and drive an hour to and from work anymore. He will pay my mortgage,gas and health bills. This is the change our grandparents could of used back in the 30's and 40's. If they would of had a president like what we have just voted for, this country would be the most powerful country in the world. Ohhh wait, they would never have voted for someone like this, they actually went to work. Look what they gave us, and look what we will give our grandkids in the future. Hell we probably won't even be here. Wonder what this country will be called? Good job on electing this guy, good thing my company is sending me overseas for several years, and i will not witness this downfall, just hear about it.. have a great time.
independent but leaning–you need to let go and move on
The Great Obama is no longer a news item–boring, boring, boring. All we will hear from now on is which dog he will choose and which private school his girls will go to. Do we have to also support the mother-in-law? And why isn't he attending his grandma's memorial service? As Hilary used to say–the speeches are over-the real Obama will emerge–who will it be? the far left-wing guy or the middle whom he catered to after the primaries?
If you have something to hide, go work at McDonald's. This is a government job not Kmart.
If you can't beat, Just join.
I don't believe this! He doesn't have a background and he wants a lengthy application?
where is his? This is such nonsense, what nerve he has! Well, guess he will accidentally hire someone like himself!
Better than "What about George Bush inspires you to serve him?", as we saw in the justice department.
Ther are several mistakes in the PDF application.
On page 6 paragraph "VII Domestic Help" the questions (54), (55) and (56) make reference to question (49) and it doesn't make sense.
They should refer to question(53).
What Hypocricy !!!
Obama's CV is still incomplete despite the 2 long years of Campaigning.
Some questions remain unanswered.
WRIGHT.
AYRES
REZKO
ISLAM.
Now he wants your CV in full !!!
@Tired of Spin - I don't think it says "Clinton." Looks like "Ch–something" to me. Anyway, that's probably someone else's note and is not on the applications that the applicants receive.
I beleive Lladmir Putin needs to send Obama his resume!
Great at least he want be surprise later on.
This is only for his TOP people in the administration. if you've ever applied for a security clearance, which these people need, then most of the information is requested on there.
At least this administration vets the people they want working for them.
David November 13th, 2008 11:58 am ET
Its no suprise. Look at all the dictators around the world and the similarities…..paranoia, mistrust, disdain for all those around them, and an iron-fisted control of the minions who do his bidding. Thanks to the 52% for voting in Stalin-lite.
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your welcome dear
Still attacking the Republicans? You guys won, bask in the glory! Oh, that's right...if you actually stop to think about who you elected, it would scare the gravy out of you.
LOL, suckers! You should have done a better job vetting your Presidential candidate!
What were you expecting the application to look like?Any name will do
and maybe your favourite color.
Yeah, I think he should just take all of the applicants to a big room and play musical chairs. Those who don't get a chair, don't get hired. That would show that he agrees with some of the tactics employed by the GOP. Also, if I were the first African American President, I would want to know everything about the people wanting to work closely with me. I am sure there are all kinds of evil folks plotting against him right now. It seems like a safety measure more than anything. He makes sound decisions at every turn. He is "The One".
Sounds like Obama wants to be sure he had true "Obaks" on board.
This sounds just like the Bush administration process when they vetted people in order to only bring aboard true "Bushies." Do they have to sign a loyalty oath (to Obama) also?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Can you say liberal litmus test??
This Is A Smart Way To Keep Out Stupid Republicans! Mccain Should Have Given Palin A Question Form Like This! Then He Would Have Known She Was Just A Square Jaw Idiot!
jm –how do you know how much obama was vetted?
Already applied!!!
I received the application and it was fairly straightforward. It asked for my job history, references, education, a copy of my resume, and then asked for the industries and agencies in which I've worked. Perhaps this was just step 1 (actually step 2), but I think CNN's reporting of this is a bit inaccurate.
Specifically, the longer "tell us everything" application is standard for anyone seeking a political position. Background checks are standard and, especially for those positions that require confirmation, can be extensive.
This is not something odd or unusual about the Obama administration. What's unusual is the fact that they are accepting applications from anyone. Usually, administrations don't ask for application. They simply seek out individuals (friends, past co-workers, significant campaign workers) that they already know.
I don't really blame them for having such a long application. They want to ensure they don't get applicants like Palin getting past the interview process like she did w/ John McLiar.
Why did n't they do this to BO? The american people are still asking the question, Who is BO?
It's extremely thorough....so what!?! Might as well disclose everything because the media, political figures, etc. will and they will scrutinize every appointment he makes. This way he will know about his appointments' skeletons before it airs on primetime news. I say if you don't like it then don't apply! Simple as that!
What an honor to be able to serve Mr. Obama and the American public. No question is off limits, we need to completly vet everyone and anyone who has an interest in serving this great nation of ours. We need to make sure that there are no hidden agendas.
If only McCain had made Sarah Palin complete one of those forms.
Maybe she wouldn't have made the ticket.
next time, vet your candidates like the democrats.
democrats are progressives, so their's absolutely no room for error
No way would I want a job with this man. CBS news put a story this morning stating that Hillary would have won by a wider margin if she was up against McCain. The Democrats picked the weaker candidate. Unbelievable. If the media was actually neutral, Obama wouldn't have made it past the primaries. Also, the CBS news story noted that 26% of Democrats voted for McCain.
I cannot wait for the liberal media to start eating their own, that being obama. He even thinks about leaving the left to move to the middle they will be at this throat. However, I do not expect him to leave the left so he will have his one term like jimmy carter.
So because Obama wants to make sure the people in his admin have up to date gun registrations and appropriately filed tax returns, he's a dictator? Dems have always had to have a CYA attitude when in office because Repubs look for any and every opportunity to point out their faults and skew their public image.
Yes, this is quite a job application with alot of very personal questions, but its not like these people are applying to work at Wal-Mart, McDonalds or even a high profile company like CNN or someplace like that. These people would be applying for a job to work for the President of the United States. At any time in history a job working for the President should require quite a bit of questioning that you would not receive at another job, but at this time in history I honestly would be surprised if they didn’t ask questions like this.
This is meaty. President-Elect Obama knows how to run an organization. Especially a government administration. This guy's stuff is watertight.
I'm still waiting for that application.
And no, my record is clean and my credentials are like no other. I mean, Warren G. Harding ain't got nothing on me! LOL!! I'll be someone like him...I said "tried", O.K? LOL!!
I can only be satisfied with the application process if I am tapped-in for a position in the Obama administration. I am well qualified though an ordinary citizen.
Devils in the details just ask Monica what she put on her application. He should probably ask for character references.
So would the post I made a few days ago about zombies on a gaming forum be held against me? hahaha
I too have received the full application and have seen nothing like this.
It does not look too far out of line but I have one question, where are the first few pages and requests for information?
This document looks a little made up to me, there is no mention of Obama or president elect or transition team until near the end, also the document says Obama transition foundation and everything on change.gov says Obama-Biden Transition team.
What do y'all think?
Only the Best for the Best!
Go Obama!
Hmmm
1) Yes, many of these questions would be problematic (or possibly illegal) to ask as a private employer. The government plays by different rules.
2) I suspect that this is just an initial screening question set. As TC notes, a full Security Clearance document is considerably longer and much more intrusive. (Also, providing false info on one of those is a Federal offence.)
3) I don't see how owning a gun disqualifies someone. Illegaly owning one might.
3) Yes, this does blur the line between public and private information. And that is troubling. OTOH, I suspect that the responses to this questionnaire will be kept secret (even from misguided FOIA requests). The public does not have a "right to know" about every applicant, and only a limited right to know about actual hires.
4) I think that the Obama administration-preparers are doing the right thing here. They are trying to reduce the chances of a "Nannygate" or other media-driven quasi-scandal like the Clinton and Bush administrations did. It shows to me that this adminstration has apparently learned from the mistakes of the past. (Which won't prevent them from making new ones, or finding new ways to make old mistakes - that's life as a human.)
If you have ever applied for a government job, the application is an open book to your life–they leave no stones unturned. And by the time you finished the lengthly application–someone has already filled the position–good luck to the applicants.
I wonder how long it will take before we see this questionairre on Myspace bulletins HAHAHAHA.
(Sorry I couldn't help myself)
I think this is pretty much a non issue. Its barely news worthy. Why not replace it with substantive reporting on what experts (not pundits) think about what specific scenarios will play out with certain policy decisions. Like, what will SPECIFICALLY happen if we don't bail out GM.
as for Independent but Leaning.......you still blogging? or you just pulled your head off the sand?
How is this more vetting than the Pres-elect went through? That doesn't even make any sense. If you believe that you're just not very intelligent. But hey, look who your party picked for VP. Someone who was not vetted or intelligent.
did you read the handwriting next to #31, the disclosure of all finances??? it says "Clinton".....ha.
In reply it Obama #uno perhaps it would be better to remember.
John F Kennedy when he said,
"Ask not what your country can do for you? But ask what you can do for your country."
While it's obvious you don't like Democrats then you had better get used to it, of course you can always go and live somewhere else.
After all the Republicans picked Sarah Palin/George Bush/Carl Rove/Dick Chaney, and that great military mind Donald (Duck) Rhumsfeld.
I rest my case
Now why do they need to know if you, or a family member, own a gun? I shake my head... This is the beginning of a bad 4 years. PE Obama made many promises these last few months, but the realities of the world cannot be ignored, and when he is unable to fulfill all those promises then what? The Pledge states "One nation under God", time to start praying...
hey david...shouldn't you be more worried about getting out to stock up on your guns...or tuning in to the conservative talk radio haters for some brainwashing...or just some general bad-mouthing of what was a truly landslide of a victory as opposed to the "52%" reference you made? Oh wait, you are doing the latter.
That will be tough since many people who voted for Obama can not read.......Though I am willing to bet 95% of the people who apply are more qualified to be President then him.
Shouldnt he have to clean up Chicago before he thinks he can clean up th eUS
Get with it! November 13th, 2008 11:51 am ET
Wow….sounds interesting. If I get the job, who gets the paycheck? Hmmm….
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Joe the Plumber gets half, and Hillary Clinton gets the other half (just kidding!)
Candy West Virginia- I have said nothing untrue. Obama has those connections, and he (not I, but HE) said he wants an armed civilian security force that is as well funded and equipped as the US military. That's exactly what the German S.A. was.
I know the truth hurts, but it's not "lies, cheats, steals, smears and hates," as you call it.
Think of it this way: would you want that force to carry over and answer to a Republican president? Would you have wanted Bush to have raised a civilian para-military force like that?
No. And neither would I.
If Obama was just a simple Southside Chicago lawyer applying for a White House position, after filling out this application do you really think he would be selected for a job there??
Sounds like good vetting skills.... WINK WINK, at the Republicans..
Here comes Barry Hitler...already with this Gestapo like tactics.
God, I love socialism. So easy to spot and the best part is, you get to watch the lambs go to slaughter.
Will ACORN be providing "temps" you know the dead and home less ones that voted numerous times for him under many names
Apparently if you want a job in the Obama White House your resume has to be longer than Obama's!
Thanks but no thanks. LOL
Obama.. WOO!!! with the changes he supports in the bailout we'll be that much closer to China's socialist economy!!! oh wait... I thought we were a free market..? no wait.. This early trend in policy will have dire consequences down the road. So many radical governmental evolutions began with supposed subtle changes. This form is just to make sure his people are of like minds and will not challenge his policy. Wait.. that kind of sounds like a dating service...
I am a federal employee, and yes it takes a LONG time to process an employment application and get hired. So I can only imagine the process when applying for a position that will be in such limelight.
For those of you who have no experience with the Fed. government employment process, stop making this so negative!
If McCain knew how to vet like Obama does, Palin would have been dismissed after the first round of interviews.
As a Grandma, I was really proud to see a woman on the GOP ticket.
Let us pray that Palin will stand for 2012 and we SURE will elect her this time... I will work for her administration rather
God Bless us all....
(if not anything, I will get to shop in Neiman Marcu
)
To "Travis Johns"
Concerning question 16; it requires listing any memberships WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS, not WITHIN YOUR LIFETIME.
The idea is that people can make mistakes as a teenager, and be respected members of society FOR 40 YEARS, and they still have quite a bit to offer.
In short: grow up and shut up. The grown-ups are finally back in charge.
I'm waiting for the America Serves opportunities to open up.
Everybody, check out change.gov
I love that our President-Elect is on the up and up on technology.
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, it looks like we will get the change we wanted. I wonder why everyone i have talked to that is successful, moved their money out of U.S. accounts. Everyone knows he will raise your taxes and penalize those you make a little over 100k. People, that is about the average income for a normal household for a two income family. I noticed the long lines of people who voted that don't work, and will never work. It was all about race, and your uneducated if you think otherwise. Doors are closing for Circuit City, Starbucks, and many more stores. We are screwed, and looking at the stats for the people who voted for The Amazing Obama, you got the idea. Great job guys. You wanted the change, you got it. "we will make it, it may not be today or tomorrow, but we will make it" nothing but a racial statement. MAKE WHAT????????
Independent by learning. You're an idiot! Go away, Alaska maybe.
To get a job with a major bank I have had to fill out questionnaire almost as long as this. Basically they want to know everything you did, said, bought or owe, for the last 10 years. And this was just to work as a service agent for a bank. So, no shock that to get a job working within a stones throw of the commander of the free world, you have to provide a lot of details about your self. Good. We dont want any unpleasant surprises to pop up.
In this day of extreme partisanship one has to be careful.
The republican leaning weather underground fought abortion rights in the late 60's when barak was eight years old..Bush Mc cain had ties to the PLO and Hamas ..Bush helped Hamas with his nation building demacracy...when elections were held Hamas won..sell your heroin addicted limbaugh theories to some one else were full up till the inauguraion
Independent but Leaning..people like you make me sick
This is a reasonable application for someone who doesn't want to end up with someone like Sarah Palin on his staff. McCain could've used this document.
....ya think Palin will apply?
For those of you who are constantly implying that Obama is going to be a dictator I'd suggest three things: 1. Learn about our country's political system 2. Get psychiatric help. 3. Get some sunshine.
All the time you're going crazy about Obama, President Bush just signed into law a regulation that allows police and other law enforcement agencies to spy on you without probable cause, and without telling anyone they're doing it, until they come and drag you away. WHO is promoting a police state?!?!?!
Independent but leaning..
Can't let it go can you..Shall we talk about your loser in chief "ties" to Keating 5 and inapproriate gifts, etc.. shall we talk about half a mil the rebublican comittee Mccain chaired gave $500,000 to terrorist HAMAS..right wing dingbats and ignorant folks like you are the reason why we have 364 electroral collge votes.. keep it up because we need 2012 as well.. you'll wake up tomorrow and OBAMA will still be POTUS (elect).. Deal with it.
CNN, again, this is getting ridiculous..I am talking about the Palin coverage. I know that the more people who click on the story, the more you think you have to run the story just so you can get readers. But to be completely honest, the majority of those clicking are clicking to tell you how fed up they are with your coverage of her. So please do us all a favor and stop the madness. I know at least 10 people including myself who have started switching the channel everytime her name comes up on your network. Please lets focus on the important things happening ie the economy, the war, etc. Those are really more desired news stories than Palin this, Palin that. If you dont have a story, heck do one on the soldiers dying in Iraq.
Note to GOP, use this when vetting future VP picks.
This list of requested information is nothing compared to what I went through in getting cleared for my position in the military almost 40 years ago....
How come he doesn't have to fill out a lengthy application. All he had to do was have a fit if anyone asked him of his background, and the media came to his rescue...Stick to issues!...Stick to the issues!....
No way could this guy get a security clearance in my day. Admit to using drugs, or say more than one word to a known communist, let alone terrorist, and... NO CLEARANCE FOR YOU...NEXT
Oh boy, That is a long one. I am working on mine.
Do people actually know what the meaning of socialism is? Do they know the ties that McCain and Paling have?
LOL at the people who are still calling Obama a socialist. They don't realize that socialism already exists in the United States and these were implemented by Republicans.
It's better that they all come clean now rather than wait until they are indicted.Far too many have thought that they wouldn't get caught with their dirty laundry only to find that the smell gave them away.
MR.PRESIDENT-ELECT,
It's a good start.There will be those that will still lie anyway but you'll scare some of the worst off before they get a job they shouldn't have.Those that still lie will have their lies on paper so you can easily give them the boot if it comes out that they did have something to hide.
It's a step in the right direction in getting rid of corruption in government and I applaud you for it!
You should be proud of a detail orianted chief, a person who really wants to be a leader, wants to select only the best and surounding himself with the best by vetting properly.
Government is NOT the job of ANY hollow person. It needs a lot of talent and focus such as we see in Obama to start it Right.
Since someone as inexperienced as Obama can become President, maybe I can become the Secretary of State!!
Faye, NV – RELAX!! Everyone bashed McCain and Palin so it's fair to get on Obama a bit. It's just in fun. I'm not leaving this country but if you don't believe in free speech maybe you should go.
Nothing wrong with being thorough, but it is only fair to note that when people in America (not just right-wing nutjobs, but actual independent thinkers) spoke up and wanted to know the same about Obama, the media and the left-wingers drowned them out. They kept saying how Obama's been in news coverage for the past two years. While that may be true, that doesn't mean the media was giving us anything substantial and this detailed IN the news coverage.
We don't know this much about Obama, and it's my opinion that applying for the job of the president should require more vetting than any other job.
I still support him, though, and like I said there's nothing wrong with this level of vetting. He's our president
It's funny how all the followers said he's not my president when Bush was elected but now everyone that doesn't agree with BO has to shut up and take it? Typical liberal; always so "open-minded" and "accepting" unless you don't agree with them and then you are just scum or, worse, a republican. This country is doomed
This application is nothing compared to the application and scrutiny I underwent went I went to work for a branch of the US government that specializes in espionage. And I already had a Top Secret Codeword Special Intelligence clearance when I applied! I wonder if that employment would disqualify me for a position in the Obama Administration? Nevermind, I'm way too old now anyway!
he has a large task, needs the best minds down to the least person to surround him
i have filled out applications that are more than 9 pages, if you want the job, it will not stop you. Go Mr President-elect
I guess, if you can't find anything more substantial to criticize than a page count, Obama must be doing pretty well indeed.
Why does it say "Clinton" in the margin?
David "paranoia, mistrust, disdain for all around them, iron-fisted control" You have just described the Bush administration to a tee. Fascism personified, and if he had his way, he would be dictator-in-chief. I don't know about you, but I look forward to an administration that reads and understands and lives by the Constitution, instead of the current one that just ignored the parts that held them accountable to US, and rewrote the rest to suit them and their rich cronies around the world. Obama is trying to find qualified, honest, Americans for these jobs, not hiring his cronies and cronies from daddy's administration. I am thankful.
That's tremendous. Think about it, if Obama is that meticulous with the people he brings onto his staff, imagine how tight he'll be fiscally. I'd love to see him uncover a huge pile of taxpayers' money. Think of every dollar put into a bus, every cent of tax on a can of Pepsi, every person's cheque every payday.. every single day taxes are paid and maybe it'll take a democrat to make every dime it go to work.
Lets be clear....CNN states this is an application however this is merely a questionaire and we have no clue on what positions this is for? Most likely this is for Cabinet faced positions.
Where is the rest of the documents?
To ALL the bloggers complaining about the Obama's vetting questionnaire, how the heck is he going to change how business is done in Washington if he does not put in place a thorough vetting process? Do you guys/ gals favor patronage appointment or do you guys/gals want ALL those with clean record in government? I have read the entire document and there is nothing wrong with the questionnaire, considering what went in the last 8 years of Bush's adminstration...
Well, I guess I'll never get a job with the Obama Administration because I have defended him for 21 months on the blogs! The things that I have written were not nice. Even though I was defending OBAMA!
wHO WOULD WANT TO WORK FOR THIS PERSON ANYWAY. HE HAS TO MANY TIES TO CORRUPT PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE U.S.A.
Obama has to do this because all of you hate filled right wing nuts are going to lie in waiting for any and eveything to jump on him for. God forbid he hired someone that happened to be in the same room as someone who might have done something, then those folks will be all over him. He is just making sure he doesn't give people any reason to start up on him.
I'll work for his administration for free!
I will tell you libs who is doing the vetting...Michelle. She's the boss and is she ever after Whitey. You got what you wished for and now we just have to sit and see what CHANGE AND HOPE mean. So far that's all you voted for or saw in this man's great speeches, hope and change we can believe in! You guys think you are sick of Palin you have no idea how sick we are of those words or obama's loud pastoral voice.
It is a smart thing to do and should be done by everyone in office when fielding for jobs... We would be very stupid to hire anyone without knowing their complete background. We wouldn't have so many people with unregistered hand guns or unsafe airports attended by untrained idiots if management were doing the same with their hires!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama- SMART MANAGER!