November 26th, 2008
11:48 AM ET
4 years ago

Franken Loses Crucial Ruling in Minnesota Recount

Franken is looking to include thousands of absentee ballots in the Senate race recount.

Franken is looking to include thousands of absentee ballots in the Senate race recount.

(CNN) - Minnesota's Canvassing Board voted unanimously to reject Franken's request to include thousands of absentee ballots that are not included in the recount in the Minnesota senate race between the Democratic challenger and Republican incumbent Norm Coleman.

The Canvassing Board, which oversees the recount, stressed during a hearing today, that they weren't rejecting the merits made by Franken's attorneys. The panel also indicated that the fight over the exclusion of the absentee ballots from the recount will most likely land in court. Some 12,000 absentee ballots were rejected from the initial vote count because of technicalities and errors.

Franken's campaign argued that the ballots were wrongly rejected. Coleman's team said the board doesn't have the authority to include the disputed ballots in the recount.

Earlier: Uncounted ballots deemed crucial to race's outcome

Filed under: Al Franken • Minnesota • Norm Coleman
soundoff (189 Responses)
  1. Rob

    Funny thing about all you yelling that every vote should count, you fail to add on your criteria that you share with the Franken campaign " long as it's for Franken" Because you know dang well that you, as well as this freak would have any votes for Coleman discounted.

    Facts a fact, Franken lost (Thank God). He's just an incredibly sore loser.

    Go away Al. While the people of Minnesota were unfortunately not smart enough to not vote in a failed community organizer in as president, they are smart enough to not vote in some washed up, foul-mouthed failure of a radio show host.

    Why don't you just go back to NYC and work on another Stuart Smalley movie.

    November 26, 2008 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |
  2. tick...tock....

    Bye Bye Al

    November 26, 2008 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  3. Sylvia

    The way people vote has to change. There is too much room for fraud and unfairness. I hope President-elect Obama nationalizes the election day. It is so important that it should be a holiday. Every state should have the same rules and the same equipment. I heard Washington State has a great system. They vote online so there are no lines and this might be a way of preventing all these other problems because it is tied politically to the election boards and commissions party. This has to change.

    November 26, 2008 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  4. Greg Pottstown, Pa.

    hello November 26th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

    Why GOP always in favour of not counting all this vote, when somebody made some mistake if they are handcaped or old or not educated to understand how to vote.

    You are a little backward. In 2000 Bush wanted to recount all votes, Gore wanted to only recount districts that voted largely for him. This is something that I hear all the time and have looked it up to confirm that bush wanted to recount all votes.

    November 26, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  5. Mike, Syracuse NY

    Let's see, when the DNC didn't count the primary votes of FL and MI it was because they didn't follow the rules. Now when absentee ballots that don't follow the rules are rejected, the Dems say it's Republican cheating. Well which way do you want it, follow the rules, or not. Don't forget, Obama won his first election by getting the other candidates tossed for not following voter rules. He hasn't seemed to care about counting every vote when the votes aren't for him. You Dems take the prize as hypocrits of the century.

    November 26, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  6. Minnesota

    Thank God.

    November 26, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  7. Greg Pottstown, Pa.

    Los November 26th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

    Do you like big government, big oil, war, and voter suppression? Then come join the GOP!

    Go learn some history. Dems are for big govt. it was Obama's entire plan to help the economy. Btw in 2000 reps were for recounting all votes and dems were for only recounting specific districts.

    Your comment tells me that you know only what you see in the media and have no idea why you voted the way you did other than it was the popular thing to do.

    November 26, 2008 02:25 pm at 2:25 pm |
  8. Kim

    Dan TX = UnAmerican

    November 26, 2008 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |

    I guess the GOP machine can still find a way to lie, cheat and steal an election. How these guys can look themselves in tjhe mirror is beyond me.

    November 26, 2008 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  10. Former republican army wife

    OK so Colemans argument is: WHether they were rejected properly or not, too bad, the board has no authority to correct that action, GAME OVER..... Well that doesn't seem too democratic.

    November 26, 2008 02:30 pm at 2:30 pm |
  11. BJ

    If you can't follow the directions on an absentee ballot, what makes you think you are able to make an informed decision regarding your vote?

    In other words, if you're too stupid that you can't follow directions, then you probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.

    November 26, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  12. Melissa

    Mike from NY.... as a lifelong Democrat still disgusted by the hypocrisy of the Obama campaign during the primaries, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

    November 26, 2008 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |

    Look, if you can't execute a ballot properly, then you're not smart enough to have your vote count. Al Franken can lead those 12,000 contested voters in a big group hug and sing "Kumbya" as he's writting a skit for SNL.

    November 26, 2008 02:38 pm at 2:38 pm |
  14. Vigla


    The Dem party hasn't been for big government in 30 years. They do favor actually RUNNING a government properly so it works. Republicans hate government, yet they still want to run it - BADLY.

    November 26, 2008 02:41 pm at 2:41 pm |
  15. Locutus of Borg

    In the end, there can be only one. The Franken Unit will prevail.

    Resistance is Futile.

    November 26, 2008 02:52 pm at 2:52 pm |
  16. smc341


    November 26, 2008 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
  17. Jim

    The Dems have not been for big government in 30 years? Have you not seen Obama's agenda? Pull your head out of the sand and give us a break.

    November 26, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  18. Ken

    One need only go read the post from Dan, TX to realize why an idiot with a list of failures longer than your arm would go to TX and think he could become its governor. From there the idiot-in-charge rallied the rest of the neo-idiots in this country to become president, and in the process dragged this country into its worst self-induced mess in 80 years. And the idiocy just keeps raining: Dan appears to be one of the "real Americans" that Ms. Palin talked of, celebrating stupid and bigoted behavior as if it should be the goal of every American. Dan, thank you, YOU are the example I turn to when I show my children how NOT to behave as American citizens.

    November 26, 2008 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  19. Joe in Austin

    republicans stealing another election

    November 26, 2008 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  20. Wynter

    To Dan from Tx:

    What you did was not only unethical, but illegal in most states. Telling a voter inside a polling place, whether registered or not at the moment, that their vote "might not count" is giving false information thus misrepresenting your position as a poll worker. And secondly, it goes against federal election laws by your actions to verbally reject or dissaude a citizen from voting as you were representing the elections officer and secretary of state. You should be at the very least barred from working in any state or federal election in the future.


    November 26, 2008 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  21. James

    I agree that you are not the sharpest tool in the shed if you can't figure out an absentee ballot. However, if you want America's voice to truly be heard on an election day, then we must be inclusive. After all, America is a country of young and old, rich and poor, native and foreign, smart and yes, stupid. I think instead of throwing all of these votes out they should be individually inspected. If the intent is clear and the voter is eligable and registered, then then the vote should count.

    November 26, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  22. El Perro Loco

    I am trying to figure this out. In this election, the rallying cry is that all of the votes should count, regardless of whether or not they were within the rules. However, in the primaries, the MI and FL votes were cast. But, they didn't count. Why? Because they were not within the rules. So, the rules applied to FL and MI, but they shouldn't apply here. And isn't it interesting that in Obama's first run for office he got his primary opponent's disqualified because of obscure rules violations. So which is it...should we follow the rules or no?

    November 26, 2008 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  23. Casey

    I just think it's a shame that people on here are voicing such rude and unfounded remarks about Franken. Ok, he's cursed before, but I'm pretty sure at least 95+ percent of the public have used a swear word in their day. At least he didn't drop the F-bomb on the floor of the Senate. And as for the argument that he's some stupid comedian; being a political satarist requires acute intellegence, particularly with regards to politics. And as to his choice of profession, I'd like to see more diverstiy in our politicians. I'm tired of our country being lead by lawyers. Plus, where were all of you people when we allowed an actor to be president, or a bodybuilder to be governor of CA? So what if he hasn't been a career politician; I think career politicians have been a major problem for this country.

    November 26, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  24. Craig - Hastings, MN

    I voted for REAL change. That being Dean Barkley. Still,all we get is the same old politics as usual. NEITHER Franken or Coleman is fit to hold the office of U.S. Senator. The Independence Party (NOT Sarah Palin's bunch of loon-balls) did very well in this election and our day is fast approaching.

    November 26, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  25. No Hillary = No Obama

    Next we will be seeing Franken on SNL doing a Daily Affirmation skit about himself.

    November 26, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
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