December 5th, 2008
12:37 PM ET
10 years ago

Podcast: Detroit’s plea to lawmakers - “You don’t want all this blood on your hands”

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(CNN) – In the latest installment of CNN=Politics Daily, Barack Obama built his campaign on “change” - change in Washington, change in the way candidates run a presidential campaign, and change in the nation’s history when he is sworn as the first African-American president. But what about change in Chicago? CNN’s Alina Cho has the details.

Also: Controversy surrounds the way the Central Intelligence Agency currently attains information from the most dangerous men in the world. When Obama takes office will he end the use of torture and close Guantanamo, or will he be forced to re-assess for security reasons? CNN’s Kelli Arena asks the president-elect what measures currently employed by the CIA will be tolerated in his upcoming administration.

Plus: He was elected by the people to serve as the 44th president of the United States - but some foes, unswayed by the evidence, continue to insist Barack Obama is ineligible to be sworn in. A lawsuit contesting the president-elect’s status as a natural-born U.S. citizen is being taken all the way to the Supreme Court. CNN’s Kelli Arena reports.

Finally: The Detroit Free Press sends a plea to Congress Thursday: “Invest in America... you don’t want all this blood on your hands.” CNN’s Dana Bash is covering the story.

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soundoff (48 Responses)
  1. No Hillary = No Obama

    They did it to themselves. Let them bite the bullet – it's inevitable anyway – they are not going to be able to sustain.

    December 5, 2008 02:39 pm at 2:39 pm |
  2. J.P.

    Let me see if I understand this correctly...

    Detroit's Big Three automakers build shoddy poorly-designed products that people won't buy and have been doing so for generations, all while being held at gunpoint by the UAW, and as a result their companies are quite literally "in the toilet."

    Now all of a sudden, IT'S THE CONGRESS who will have blood on its hands if it chooses not to invest in and prop up Detroit's Big Three "Buggy-Whip Makers." What exactly am I missing in all this?

    To quote the guy in the movie Zoolander, "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills."

    December 5, 2008 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  3. Mike in Houston

    To the Detroit Free Press:

    The economic blood is on the UAW's and Congress' hands. America can live without an American auto industry that has become simply a fundraising machine for the UAW and the DNC.

    December 5, 2008 02:50 pm at 2:50 pm |
  4. Silence Dogood

    Bail out the auto industry? Polls shows the people do not want it. But Obama has taken lots of corporate donations (funnelled through "individuals"). It will be interesting to see who he listens to.

    December 5, 2008 02:53 pm at 2:53 pm |
  5. Chantel

    Please Blood is already on the Big 3 Hands and the banks. Stop it with scare tactics. I went to a bank today to consolidate my high interest loans. You know what they said, i could refinance my home (eating up my equity of over 20k) and no other options because some of my balances to high. They would also double my current interest rate. i said "Thanks but no thanks". So congress tell the big three to make it on their own, just like every other American has too.

    Obama was born in Hawaii, stop it with the sour grapes. He won, live with it.

    December 5, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  6. the real american

    CIA: Close guantanamo and ban any form of torture. I cannot believe we ever had guantanamo. What a shame to America and our Democracy we claim to have.

    Barak Citizen: This is completely BS. You think he got into the Senate in the first place without proving he was a citizen? He won. Face it. Stop trying to bring up these dumb accusations when our country needs some serious leadership. Its deplorable these people are still trying to find ways to discredit him. Cmon people grow up the election is over.

    Big 3 Bailout: These companies are not effective and have bad leadership. It is thier own fault they are in the mess, let them suffer.

    My Solution to all those losing thier jobs: The government should take the $34 million and instead of giving it to these crooked companies, START NEW COMPANIES THAT BUILD NEW CARS WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY! Employ all the former big 3 employees in these new companies. Now you've kill 3 birds with 1 stone : Energy crisis, Climate change and unemployment. Why has no one thought of this????

    December 5, 2008 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  7. TexasAnnie *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

    As much as I hate the thought of bailing out the Big 3, I'm not sure we can just turn our heads and walk away. It's not the Big 3 that worries me as much as the thousands of small businesses and multi-thousands of employees all down the line that will suffer. The automakers don't "make" their own tires or seat cushions or floor carpet or sound systems or headlights or any number of pieces of auxillary equipment.... it's all bought from some supplier down the line. If the automakers go belly up, then those folks down the line will all be out of jobs too. Even if the automakers do a bankruptcy reorganization, the exisiting creditors will end up eating whatever is currently owed them. That's the kind of "blood" we're looking at- all the folks down the line who don't work for the automakers but whose jobs, salaries, livelihoods, are all tied to the survival of the automakers. I don't think we can turn our heads & walk away. We have to find a way to shore the automakers up (call it a bailout if you want) in order for, not only them but, all the supporting business owners & employees down the line to survive.
    No matter what we do or who we do it for (AIG, banks, automakers, whoever), all these programs need to be structured so that these companies have to ultimately pay this money back to the government.

    December 5, 2008 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  8. Jams nVa

    Torture is immoral under any and all circumstances, no matter if it is performed by a criminal or a government – it is un-American.
    Obama was elected by a large majority of voting Americans and he is to be our next President. To the right-wing-nut-jobs ~ please just go away and enjoy yourself following the circus that is Palintology.
    We can't afford to loose any more industry here in the states, do we want to be a nation of money changers? Save what we can at all costs – buy American. Avoid buying the cheap Chinese plastic crap.

    December 5, 2008 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  9. LB

    Obama's mother was from Kansas, that makes him a US citizen, just the same as any military kid born overseas when their parents are stationed there. Some people just can't accept the facts. McCain wasn't born here in the US either, yet they weren't challenging his citizenship.

    December 5, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  10. gerri

    Rush doesnt have blood on his hands,he loves the people of Detroit.Poor Rush Limbaugh,he has a cold today and is running out of talking points too.We all hope its nothing worse of course,maybe he ate some crow last night and is still gagging today,or maybe it was some counterfeit medicine.

    December 5, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  11. jared

    BIG 3 its your own fault selling the junk crap you call cars . and then you have to take that same pc. of junk to the car mehcanic who is going to take you for a ride when it comes to repairs "HE IS GOING TO RIP YOU OFF. why in the hell do i have to pay $60 for a mechanic to tell me something or whats wrong w/ my transmission BEFORE you fix it .AND THE MAJORITY of the time the mechanic is LIEING. AND BILLING YOU 700 DOLLARS WHEN HE ONLY PUT IN A $ 15 DOLLAR SENSOR IN YOUR TRANSMISSION................... AIN'T THAT RIGHT AAMCO TRANSMISSION. don't take your car their. that 85 $ free promo they got is a ripoff just to get you in the door. go to h............. big 3 i'll think I'll go foreign next time

    December 5, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  12. thomas

    Solution: better vehicles, cheaper vehicles, safer vehicles, better financing, better fuel economy, less maintenance.

    December 5, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  13. demo in PA

    sent them packing
    there cars are second grade junk
    who will buy them?
    not me i did and still paying for repairs

    December 5, 2008 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  14. Former republican army wife

    OK, so if people won't buy a car from a company that declared bankruptcy, what makes the automakers think people would buy a car from a company on life support? A company that needs billions from the government just to survive, is a company that i would never do business with. These companies will receive their bailout and both GM and Chrysler will be at the table next year begging for more cash. Ford has shot at survival because they saw this coming and made a few changes. GM and Chrysler are dinosaurs, overburdened with ridiculous union contracts, and vehicles that are no where near the reliability of foreign vehicles. I love how GM dodged the question asked by congress that if they got federal cash, can they guarantee they move a plant to Mexico. Nice tap dancing GM.

    December 5, 2008 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  15. Breaking News

    @ Thomas,you can come out of the cave now.If you cant find a car out there,your probably not old enough to drive yet or be on the computor without permission.

    December 5, 2008 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  16. obama-mama

    Thomas – ditto

    No car payment should exceed $250/month.....

    December 5, 2008 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  17. Is it Jan 20th yet?

    ..Right.. if the Automakers go out of business the blood will be on hands of Congress, because, presumeably the hands of their CEO's or the AUW had nothing to do with any of this?

    December 5, 2008 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  18. Lifelong Detroiter Not Afraid of the Truth

    The Detroit Free Press is a rag.

    Businesses succeed because people want to buy their stuff at the price offered. Detroit's cars are both undesirable and overpriced, and have been for at least 30 years. It's not complicated.

    December 5, 2008 03:26 pm at 3:26 pm |
  19. Fani from NJ

    How is it that if auto-industry ( or banking or oil industry ) is having record profits, its never "gifts in our hands", but if they're down, its "blood on our hands " ?
    Also, these 3 beggars from GM, Ford and wherever fly corporate jets to beg for money. I think we (viz. the Senators) should remove these bungling mismanagers and replace with others of our choosing.
    Lets see how they feel then when their jobs are in jeopardy and they have no "golden parachutes"

    December 5, 2008 03:26 pm at 3:26 pm |
  20. Eric

    Blood on THEIR hands? The blood is on the hands of a company who has run out of customers. Everyone has their cars and the facts are most families don't need to purchase a new one. Invest the companies money in new ideas, new fuels, and more efficient vehicles. If you sell us something new or something we need we will buy it. Stop pumping out the same restrained vehicles with altered designs and give the people something worth buying. It should not be the taxpayers burden to bail you out when you are the one who has lost ideas on how to make money

    December 5, 2008 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  21. wait a minute

    This is guilt trip 101. As more information comes out, it becomes clearer that the big three don't deserve the taxpayers' help. The most we can do is to send these too many auto workers back to school and move on to better things than making cars nobody wants to buy. They have ignored customers' needs for too many years. They should blame themselves for their own failures.

    December 5, 2008 03:36 pm at 3:36 pm |
  22. California Gold

    The Detroit Free Press sends a plea to Congress Thursday: “Invest in America… you don’t want all this blood on your hands.” This sort of lobbying underscores the arrogance and unanimous denial of responsibility of auto industry management for their failures. Boys, the party is OVER.

    December 5, 2008 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  23. Alabama Voter

    When a possible 6 million people lose their jobs that is when the people are going to wake up and see that even though the CEO's of these companies messed up it is going to effect every state in a way that no one is going to be immune to. People don't realize how much tax money is going to be spent on unemployment and with these people being out of a job who is going to pay taxes then.

    December 5, 2008 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  24. chris nichols

    I am not a fan of the US auto industry. The management has driven the industry to its's knees. If we do not give them a loan, they will go down and bring the US economy with it. Look at the advertising dollars, the computer chips. these will go away with no industry to support them along with your jobs. If this happens I will be waiting with the tar and feathers to face the politicians that let this happen. (if i can afford it)

    December 5, 2008 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  25. Ed, Santa Fe, NM

    then why don't they make a product anyone wants???

    December 5, 2008 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
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