Comments on: Joel Osteen weighs in on Obama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Brent A. Pope http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2159785 Brent A. Pope Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:45:38 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2159785 A Texas (clergy) Man, backing a minority President. If that isn't change, than what is? You go Joel. By the way I bought your Recent #1 best seller and gave it to my Fieance and soon wife to be. She was struggling with life issues. She now has a new found clearity in her purpose on this Earth. A reality check in reality. Joel is a proud Christian with strong values, a man of men, we all could learn from his awsome words. You just have to take the time to listen and absorb.The Bible is also a #1 best seller of all time. A publication you can wrap your head around, with purpose and no fluff. As far as soon to be President Obama, the best of luck and God speed my friend. A Texas (clergy) Man, backing a minority President. If that isn't change, than what is? You go Joel. By the way I bought your Recent #1 best seller and gave it to my Fieance and soon wife to be. She was struggling with life issues. She now has a new found clearity in her purpose on this Earth. A reality check in reality. Joel is a proud Christian with strong values, a man of men, we all could learn from his awsome words. You just have to take the time to listen and absorb.The Bible is also a #1 best seller of all time. A publication you can wrap your head around, with purpose and no fluff. As far as soon to be President Obama, the best of luck and God speed my friend.

]]> By: Brad Burklow, Harrisburg, IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2159033 Brad Burklow, Harrisburg, IL Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:48:02 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2159033 JS, Osteen did not say God would stand for some of Obama's positions. I think he was hinting though that the hard right has tended to be very selective about which biblical to promote, and that they have no corner on morality. He is simply saying Obama has great potential as a leader (duh) and encouraging his congregation and followers to pray for him and support him instead of instinctively rejecting a Democrat. JS, Osteen did not say God would stand for some of Obama's positions. I think he was hinting though that the hard right has tended to be very selective about which biblical to promote, and that they have no corner on morality. He is simply saying Obama has great potential as a leader (duh) and encouraging his congregation and followers to pray for him and support him instead of instinctively rejecting a Democrat.

]]> By: Lori In DFW, Texas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157649 Lori In DFW, Texas Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:59:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157649 I love Joel Osteen and his message. I don't give a rat's behind what his political views are. I think he is smart to avoid taking a firm political stance. I don't want my religion and politics mixed, thank you. The minute he gets into politics is the day I tune out permanently. The preachers who get into politics are the ones who preach hatred, divisiveness and fear. NO THANKS. I love Joel Osteen and his message. I don't give a rat's behind what his political views are. I think he is smart to avoid taking a firm political stance. I don't want my religion and politics mixed, thank you. The minute he gets into politics is the day I tune out permanently. The preachers who get into politics are the ones who preach hatred, divisiveness and fear. NO THANKS.

]]> By: aerovick http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157566 aerovick Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:50:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157566 I think what Osteen meant was that - things happen because God permits them (Lam 3:37 and Ps 33:9). It does not mean that God supports them. God allows us to use the power of our free will. It is up to us to make the choice whether we will do it God's way or not. Whatever our choices are, we will face the consequences. God is still and is always Omnipotent. That Obama is President does not mean God is in support or against but God definitely permits it to happen. At the end of all things, God's plans will still stand and Satan will be put to shame!!! I think what Osteen meant was that – things happen because God permits them (Lam 3:37 and Ps 33:9). It does not mean that God supports them. God allows us to use the power of our free will. It is up to us to make the choice whether we will do it God's way or not. Whatever our choices are, we will face the consequences. God is still and is always Omnipotent. That Obama is President does not mean God is in support or against but God definitely permits it to happen. At the end of all things, God's plans will still stand and Satan will be put to shame!!!

]]> By: rd http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157537 rd Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:46:34 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157537 God doesn't make people do anything. People make their own choices to do wrong things. God may lead people to do certain things, like run for a certain office. But I agree with JS that Obama does not follow Biblical principles, like do not murder. If he makes abortions easier to get and takes no stand against abortion, Obama cannot be considered a great president. We do need to pray for him though. God doesn't make people do anything. People make their own choices to do wrong things. God may lead people to do certain things, like run for a certain office. But I agree with JS that Obama does not follow Biblical principles, like do not murder. If he makes abortions easier to get and takes no stand against abortion, Obama cannot be considered a great president. We do need to pray for him though.

]]> By: aware http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157533 aware Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:45:50 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157533 Joel Osteen of the mega, secular, money rich, be happy, pseudo church has no idea what the results of an Obama presidency will be but we all need to pray according to 2 Chronicles 7:14. "If my people who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." :) Joel Osteen of the mega, secular, money rich, be happy, pseudo church has no idea what the results of an Obama presidency will be but we all need to pray according to 2 Chronicles 7:14.

"If my people who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." :)

]]> By: Denver Dem http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157531 Denver Dem Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:45:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157531 Hold on one second, a religous preacher that is not a democrat basher? Be still my heart. Makes me have faith that the religous nuts are starting to see the light Hold on one second, a religous preacher that is not a democrat basher? Be still my heart. Makes me have faith that the religous nuts are starting to see the light

]]> By: BT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157499 BT Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:43:05 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157499 For clarification he ever said, "that God stands for the positions of Obama." I would argue that God doesn't need a "Christian" in office to accomplish his purpose if you actually read the bible as you are telling Joel Osteen to do, you will find that it was perhaps in leaders that didn't follow stand for the positions of God that allowed his purposes to be accomplished, see pharoah, and the caesars, and a host of other kings in the Old Testament, and even modern day nightmare stories of preachers and leaders of Churches who were living in direct opposition in the ways of God. For the record Jim I am not offended or pissed off in any way by the first comment, it's a good set of questions and I have a question that i'd like to ask you. If you want to take your wife out to dinner, and you make reservations for her at a restaurant, and then on your lunch break you call her and ask her if she'd like to have dinner with and she agrees, does that mean that she does not have free will because you made reservations and already had planned on doing it before she was asked ? For clarification he ever said, "that God stands for the positions of Obama." I would argue that God doesn't need a "Christian" in office to accomplish his purpose if you actually read the bible as you are telling Joel Osteen to do, you will find that it was perhaps in leaders that didn't follow stand for the positions of God that allowed his purposes to be accomplished, see pharoah, and the caesars, and a host of other kings in the Old Testament, and even modern day nightmare stories of preachers and leaders of Churches who were living in direct opposition in the ways of God.

For the record Jim I am not offended or pissed off in any way by the first comment, it's a good set of questions and I have a question that i'd like to ask you. If you want to take your wife out to dinner, and you make reservations for her at a restaurant, and then on your lunch break you call her and ask her if she'd like to have dinner with and she agrees, does that mean that she does not have free will because you made reservations and already had planned on doing it before she was asked ?

]]> By: pauld http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157494 pauld Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:42:05 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157494 God does the right thing as long as it's a Democrat that's elected. God does the right thing as long as it's a Democrat that's elected.

]]> By: Jeanette Scott http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157468 Jeanette Scott Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:38:35 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157468 Thank you Pastor Osteen for your thoughts on President elect Obama. We all need prayers. I also believe and have faith in Mr. Obama. He speaks from the heart. God Bless him. Thank you Pastor Osteen for your thoughts on President elect Obama. We all need prayers. I also believe and have faith in Mr. Obama. He speaks from the heart. God Bless him.

]]> By: Leigh http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157450 Leigh Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:36:36 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157450 I don't believe God makes people sin. I think men and women are evil in their hearts and are prone to sin. I do support Obama, and I am a Christian, but I think everyone has the right to their own beliefs. And personally, I do not care what Joel Osteen thinks or whom he endorses. I think he is a cult leader and he does not impress me one bit. He is getting very wealthy by telling his followers how they will be blessed with riches if they believe. I have never heard him talk about salvation and what is really important. I don't believe God makes people sin. I think men and women are evil in their hearts and are prone to sin. I do support Obama, and I am a Christian, but I think everyone has the right to their own beliefs. And personally, I do not care what Joel Osteen thinks or whom he endorses. I think he is a cult leader and he does not impress me one bit. He is getting very wealthy by telling his followers how they will be blessed with riches if they believe. I have never heard him talk about salvation and what is really important.

]]> By: Kingslough http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157446 Kingslough Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:36:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157446 Church and politics dont mix just as Jesus was asked about giving to ceasar and he kept off by abiding by ceasar. Church and politics dont mix just as Jesus was asked about giving to ceasar and he kept off by abiding by ceasar.

]]> By: Funny people... http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157435 Funny people... Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:34:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157435 It is funny that some use religion to justify everything wrong in their lives and everything right is because of their own doing! Religious people are scary. They tend to not think on their own. Frightning!! It is funny that some use religion to justify everything wrong in their lives and everything right is because of their own doing! Religious people are scary. They tend to not think on their own. Frightning!!

]]> By: ST http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157424 ST Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:33:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157424 JS, I don't think Osteen was leading anyone. He just encouraged people to vote, but did not advise them who to vote for. That was the mistake so many ministers made 4 years ago. Have we not learned our lesson from Bush? I'm glad Obama leaves his religious beliefs out of his politics. I wouldn't want to be governed by a religion. The Constitution should be the only document that governs this land, not the Bible or any other book. JS, I don't think Osteen was leading anyone. He just encouraged people to vote, but did not advise them who to vote for. That was the mistake so many ministers made 4 years ago. Have we not learned our lesson from Bush? I'm glad Obama leaves his religious beliefs out of his politics. I wouldn't want to be governed by a religion. The Constitution should be the only document that governs this land, not the Bible or any other book.

]]> By: Supporting Obama in Georgia http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157419 Supporting Obama in Georgia Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:32:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157419 That is why I love Joel Osteen. Although some "religious" people have been critical of Obama, you must certainly realize that many Christians interpret the Bible differently. That is why we have Protestants and Catholics....Baptists, Presbyterians, Jehovah's Witness, etc, etc, etc... And besides Christianity, we have Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc. Funny thing about Christians in the US, many of them are not "Christ-like"! That is why I love Joel Osteen.

Although some "religious" people have been critical of Obama, you must certainly realize that many Christians interpret the Bible differently. That is why we have Protestants and Catholics....Baptists, Presbyterians, Jehovah's Witness, etc, etc, etc... And besides Christianity, we have Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.

Funny thing about Christians in the US, many of them are not "Christ-like"!

]]> By: Lisa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157381 Lisa Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:27:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157381 Wouldn't trust this man. He is a right wing religious zealot dressed in sheep's clothing. Wouldn't trust this man. He is a right wing religious zealot dressed in sheep's clothing.

]]> By: Rober http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157366 Rober Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:24:35 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157366 God puts people in seats of authtority? So God put Hitler, Musolini, Mugabi, Kruschev Satin, Marx, Lennon and the list goes on JOEL! Joel Osteen is a fake a fraud and tells people what theywant to hear and that is not the truth what Joel states, he better learn more about his teaching and preaching rather than telling us his feelings because his feelings are different from GODS! God puts people in seats of authtority? So God put Hitler, Musolini, Mugabi, Kruschev Satin, Marx, Lennon and the list goes on JOEL!

Joel Osteen is a fake a fraud and tells people what theywant to hear and that is not the truth what Joel states, he better learn more about his teaching and preaching rather than telling us his feelings because his feelings are different from GODS!

]]> By: ELF in SC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157362 ELF in SC Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:24:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157362 Wow, this will spark good discussion/debate. The Bible says that every man shall work out his own soul salvation. If your heart don't condemn you, neither will God. There are enough troubles in the day itself, than to become so disturbed with what anyone says about what God did and did not allow. I believe that He is sovereign (not that this word is spelled correctly but hopefully you get the picture). We are living in a messed up world and we better be about getting our own business straight. After death, according to the Bible, there is judgment. You have a choice to believe what you'd like to believe as well have an opinion about whatever you'd like to have an opinion about. That's America and that's the freedom God offers. Wow, this will spark good discussion/debate. The Bible says that every man shall work out his own soul salvation. If your heart don't condemn you, neither will God. There are enough troubles in the day itself, than to become so disturbed with what anyone says about what God did and did not allow. I believe that He is sovereign (not that this word is spelled correctly but hopefully you get the picture). We are living in a messed up world and we better be about getting our own business straight. After death, according to the Bible, there is judgment. You have a choice to believe what you'd like to believe as well have an opinion about whatever you'd like to have an opinion about. That's America and that's the freedom God offers.

]]> By: Briana the college student http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157355 Briana the college student Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:22:38 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157355 Joel Osteen is right. We need to pray that our leaders do what is right for all of us. Joel Osteen is right. We need to pray that our leaders do what is right for all of us.

]]> By: A. DeHaven http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157351 A. DeHaven Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:22:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157351 Gods does not make anyone do anything... sheeesssh!! But He does ALLOW things. We are created with a free will - human kind does as it pleases, hence the evil in the world. What we choose to do in our fallen condition, God also chooses to allow, unfortunately for those who get hurt in the process. We all have the choice to live for God according to His Word, or... not. Some do, most do not. Thus the mess this world is in. And just for the record, I do not think Obama is a great person. I think he is basically evil and will work, at first, to win the trust of the right, and then lower the boom when the time is right. In my opinion, he is not to be trusted. He refuses to so much as establish his place of birth, letting the controversy fly (among many other nebulous answers to important questions). I am utterly and completely dismayed at how much he has gotten away with... I mean, why is there not some entity to which presidential candidates, among others, are accountable for such things as proving origin of birth? Or is there...? And if so, why has he not been required to provide this documentation? This country is a mess. Gods does not make anyone do anything... sheeesssh!! But He does ALLOW things. We are created with a free will – human kind does as it pleases, hence the evil in the world. What we choose to do in our fallen condition, God also chooses to allow, unfortunately for those who get hurt in the process. We all have the choice to live for God according to His Word, or... not. Some do, most do not. Thus the mess this world is in. And just for the record, I do not think Obama is a great person. I think he is basically evil and will work, at first, to win the trust of the right, and then lower the boom when the time is right. In my opinion, he is not to be trusted. He refuses to so much as establish his place of birth, letting the controversy fly (among many other nebulous answers to important questions). I am utterly and completely dismayed at how much he has gotten away with... I mean, why is there not some entity to which presidential candidates, among others, are accountable for such things as proving origin of birth? Or is there...? And if so, why has he not been required to provide this documentation? This country is a mess.

]]> By: Lee http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157350 Lee Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:22:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157350 Joel Osteen is a young pastor but quite frankly wiser than most evangelical leaders of the day. I don't know about you but I don't want politics in the pulpit. Joel understands that politics is divisive and he fares a much better chance to reach a diverse group of people with the Gospel by staying away from politics. Good for you Pastor Osteen! Joel Osteen is a young pastor but quite frankly wiser than most evangelical leaders of the day. I don't know about you but I don't want politics in the pulpit. Joel understands that politics is divisive and he fares a much better chance to reach a diverse group of people with the Gospel by staying away from politics.
Good for you Pastor Osteen!

]]> By: Nik http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157339 Nik Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:21:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157339 I love Joel Osteen! We all know you voted for Obama, Pastor Osteen. I love Joel Osteen! We all know you voted for Obama, Pastor Osteen.

]]> By: Marvin http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157335 Marvin Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:20:05 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157335 I agree with Mr. Osteen in that God allows people to be put in a position of great power. Even in biblical days, the leaders didn't always do what God wanted them to do, but he still blessed them and the people that they lead. If you can't see that Obama has God behind him, then you need to go get your eyes examined. I agree with Mr. Osteen in that God allows people to be put in a position of great power. Even in biblical days, the leaders didn't always do what God wanted them to do, but he still blessed them and the people that they lead. If you can't see that Obama has God behind him, then you need to go get your eyes examined.

]]> By: Mike from Canada http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157321 Mike from Canada Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:18:04 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157321 So, if God is the one who gets to put the right people in office, that means that there was no need for an election in the first place, and that around 120 million votes were wasted -- along with lots of money, time and effort. Also, since God is the one who chooses who gets into office, I really have to question his/her/its judgement because God thought Bush was the right person to be in office for two terms, and look what happened to the U.S and the world. So, if God is the one who gets to put the right people in office, that means that there was no need for an election in the first place, and that around 120 million votes were wasted - along with lots of money, time and effort. Also, since God is the one who chooses who gets into office, I really have to question his/her/its judgement because God thought Bush was the right person to be in office for two terms, and look what happened to the U.S and the world.

]]> By: Donna http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157315 Donna Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:17:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157315 Oh come on Joel. I thought you were a preacher of God's word - how can you when you back Obama who believes in partial birth abortion and then not helping those poor babies that do survive. Oh come on Joel. I thought you were a preacher of God's word – how can you when you back Obama who believes in partial birth abortion and then not helping those poor babies that do survive.

]]> By: Welcome Turner http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157304 Welcome Turner Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:15:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157304 Would it be safe then to say God made a mistake in putting George W. Bush in place as president for the last 8yrs? I think Obama will be a great president, but saying God put him in place is a little beyond. Men and women create a lot of this mess we find ourselves in and it appears to give us comfort to interject God in the conversation. Would it be safe then to say God made a mistake in putting George W. Bush in place as president for the last 8yrs? I think Obama will be a great president, but saying God put him in place is a little beyond. Men and women create a lot of this mess we find ourselves in and it appears to give us comfort to interject God in the conversation.

]]> By: DR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157268 DR Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:09:54 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157268 Actually JS, G-d will stand for the positions that G-d deems necessary, not what JS deems the right (and Biblical) position...or what any other person deems to be G-d's position on certain issues. I believe that the primary position that you would argue is against G-d's will is the abortion issue, but that argument falls flat since our beloved president of the last eight years had the opportunity to change that policy but did nothing. Where was the backbone there, eh? It is the president's job to uphold the Constitution, not an interpretation of the Bible or other religious text. Actually JS, G-d will stand for the positions that G-d deems necessary, not what JS deems the right (and Biblical) position...or what any other person deems to be G-d's position on certain issues. I believe that the primary position that you would argue is against G-d's will is the abortion issue, but that argument falls flat since our beloved president of the last eight years had the opportunity to change that policy but did nothing. Where was the backbone there, eh?

It is the president's job to uphold the Constitution, not an interpretation of the Bible or other religious text.

]]> By: FreeNLovIt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157243 FreeNLovIt Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:06:46 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157243 To JS Obama has a weak Christian background. I dont think that he has a personal relationship with God. He knows a few principles but he's clueless as to what God really stands for. He's what the Bible calls a 'lukewarm' Christian. The people that really understand the basic principles of Christianity will have to be the Conservative Party of the Republican Party. However, they're a bit MESSED up. I understand why homosexual is wrong and abortion is wrong, but they DONT do anything to advance God's cause of helping the poor and needy of America. It's all about the Rich. There's just something wrong. The closest person that I can think of that is a well-rounded Christian is Mike Huckabee. He seems to understand his obligation of 'doing the right thing'. The obligation of what and how God expects us to treat everyone. He seems like a fair guy. To JS

Obama has a weak Christian background. I dont think that he has a personal relationship with God. He knows a few principles but he's clueless as to what God really stands for. He's what the Bible calls a 'lukewarm' Christian. The people that really understand the basic principles of Christianity will have to be the Conservative Party of the Republican Party. However, they're a bit MESSED up. I understand why homosexual is wrong and abortion is wrong, but they DONT do anything to advance God's cause of helping the poor and needy of America. It's all about the Rich. There's just something wrong. The closest person that I can think of that is a well-rounded Christian is Mike Huckabee. He seems to understand his obligation of 'doing the right thing'. The obligation of what and how God expects us to treat everyone. He seems like a fair guy.

]]> By: grahame http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157233 grahame Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:05:57 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157233 Oh Wonderful! So God's to blame for GW Bush, Donald Rhumsfeld, Lon Chaney, and all the gang. Poor God gets the blame for everything including persecution of the Christians and the Jews and genocide everywhere. However, I hope Obama can fix all of this. I personally am just waiting for Sarah Palin to stick the knife in. Tell me please is she a product of God's great plan for the USA or is she just another of God's little jokes? Oh Wonderful!
So God's to blame for GW Bush, Donald Rhumsfeld, Lon Chaney, and all the gang. Poor God gets the blame for everything including persecution of the Christians and the Jews and genocide everywhere.

However, I hope Obama can fix all of this. I personally am just waiting for Sarah Palin to stick the knife in. Tell me please is she a product of God's great plan for the USA or is she just another of God's little jokes?

]]> By: Jason http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157221 Jason Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:02:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157221 Mr. Osteen is right though...you shouldn't do politics from the pulpit. But you shouldn't preach religion from your political office either. No, I'm not saying that Pres-elect Obama has done that. But plenty of others across the nation get themselves voted into office (as has happened with the KS state school board) solely so they can push their religious views onto a single issue. Mr. Osteen is right though...you shouldn't do politics from the pulpit. But you shouldn't preach religion from your political office either. No, I'm not saying that Pres-elect Obama has done that. But plenty of others across the nation get themselves voted into office (as has happened with the KS state school board) solely so they can push their religious views onto a single issue.

]]> By: ladyc803 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157217 ladyc803 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:02:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157217 God did let Obama win this presidency for a reason....Our ways are not always God's. The Lord has a plan for ALL our lifes. God do have a plan for President Obama and as long as he let the God leave him in the right direction he will do fine! God did let Obama win this presidency for a reason....Our ways are not always God's. The Lord has a plan for ALL our lifes. God do have a plan for President Obama and as long as he let the God leave him in the right direction he will do fine!

]]> By: Rave http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157206 Rave Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:00:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157206 Who is this clown now ? Who is this clown now ?

]]> By: Ohio for Obama- Suburbs http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157207 Ohio for Obama- Suburbs Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:00:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157207 This is to Jim Post. If a man/woman not living in the Word of GOD everyday of their life, you put yourself in position to SIN and judge others. We need more man/woman of GOD, because the evil sin is planted in too many lost souls that is set to destroy others. Look at your daily news for evidence. This is to Jim Post. If a man/woman not living in the Word of GOD everyday of their life, you put yourself in position to SIN and judge others. We need more man/woman of GOD, because the evil sin is planted in too many lost souls that is set to destroy others. Look at your daily news for evidence.

]]> By: FreeNLovIt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157201 FreeNLovIt Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:00:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157201 To Jim Russia threw out God and shut the doors of every church. For fourty years, they woke up to generations of men that lived in darkness and can only do and think EVIL. Russia since then, opened the doors of all churches. Men needs the light of God, otherwise, it cannot be a complete Being. The Good News today is being preached to men in the prisons of Russia. As humans, we are responsible for our own actions and God is there to help us if we ask, seek and pray. To Jim

Russia threw out God and shut the doors of every church. For fourty years, they woke up to generations of men that lived in darkness and can only do and think EVIL. Russia since then, opened the doors of all churches. Men needs the light of God, otherwise, it cannot be a complete Being. The Good News today is being preached to men in the prisons of Russia. As humans, we are responsible for our own actions and God is there to help us if we ask, seek and pray.

]]> By: Terrance http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157190 Terrance Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:59:36 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157190 Hummm. So God put Hitler, Chavez, Hussien, et. al. in office too? And here I thought he was perfect.............. Hummm. So God put Hitler, Chavez, Hussien, et. al. in office too?

And here I thought he was perfect..............

]]> By: proudliberal http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157188 proudliberal Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:59:06 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157188 God does not vote! ......[He is not even registered] God does not vote! ......[He is not even registered]

]]> By: Irma in North Carolina http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157186 Irma in North Carolina Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:58:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157186 Well Sarah Palin thought it was going to be a task from God to get her and John Mccain elected. Thank God it was a task of God to let them loose the election. It seems to be God didnt like all her hate rallys that she was having that endangerd obamas life. Well Sarah Palin thought it was going to be a task from God to get her and John Mccain elected. Thank God it was a task of God to let them loose the election. It seems to be God didnt like all her hate rallys that she was having that endangerd obamas life.

]]> By: ladyc803 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157184 ladyc803 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:58:38 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157184 Jim get a life! sound you have bagget Jim get a life! sound you have bagget

]]> By: SOUTHERN HOTTIE http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157180 SOUTHERN HOTTIE Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:58:02 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157180 Separation of Church and State. GOP members for some reason just don't get that. Separation of Church and State.

GOP members for some reason just don't get that.

]]> By: Debbie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157172 Debbie Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:57:20 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157172 Finally - a "mega-preacher" who has common sense. Praise the Lord! Finally – a "mega-preacher" who has common sense. Praise the Lord!

]]> By: FreeNLovIt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157169 FreeNLovIt Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:57:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157169 To Jim We were created 'Perfect' and had a perfect union with God. Eve disobeyed and ate of the forbidden fruit and gave it to Adam to eat too. Ever since then, sin entered the world. As a human race, we live constantly in the world that has to choose good or evil. The best God can do is give us the Bible and give us Jesus as a sacrifice. Through Christ, we can come to God and ask to help us live above our sins and to guide us with our lives until Revelation is fulfilled. As Romans said 'where sin abounded.. GRACE abounded'... There's enough love to counteract EVIL. To Jim

We were created 'Perfect' and had a perfect union with God. Eve disobeyed and ate of the forbidden fruit and gave it to Adam to eat too. Ever since then, sin entered the world. As a human race, we live constantly in the world that has to choose good or evil. The best God can do is give us the Bible and give us Jesus as a sacrifice. Through Christ, we can come to God and ask to help us live above our sins and to guide us with our lives until Revelation is fulfilled. As Romans said 'where sin abounded.. GRACE abounded'... There's enough love to counteract EVIL.

]]> By: SOUTHERN HOTTIE http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157162 SOUTHERN HOTTIE Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:56:16 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157162 JOEL OSTEEN ROCKS! JOEL OSTEEN ROCKS!

]]> By: Alan - Kentucky http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157159 Alan - Kentucky Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:55:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157159 God does allow leaders to take office. To me this is very clear in the election of Obama. The U.S. as a nation has rejected God (right Jim) and has embraced a totally secular way of thinking. In a sense, God has granted us what we have ask for. A leader that totally supports the killing of unwanted children for money (stem cell research) a leader that supports the perversion of gay marriage, a leader that denies the existance of God through the support of evolution being taught to our children. So, as a nation that was founded on Biblical principles (despite what you have been taught in govt schools) how can we continue to expect to be blessed. You see Jim God doesn't cause all of the bad things of the world, sin does. He allows each and every person the choice. God does allow leaders to take office. To me this is very clear in the election of Obama. The U.S. as a nation has rejected God (right Jim) and has embraced a totally secular way of thinking. In a sense, God has granted us what we have ask for. A leader that totally supports the killing of unwanted children for money (stem cell research) a leader that supports the perversion of gay marriage, a leader that denies the existance of God through the support of evolution being taught to our children. So, as a nation that was founded on Biblical principles (despite what you have been taught in govt schools) how can we continue to expect to be blessed. You see Jim God doesn't cause all of the bad things of the world, sin does. He allows each and every person the choice.

]]> By: Stacy from Loudoun County VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157154 Stacy from Loudoun County VA Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:55:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157154 Here is a novel idea. Let the Bible be the Bible and be a book for personal guidance. Let the Government be the Government and have the Constitution and Bill of Rights for its guidance. How about not letting the two intersect? The founders of this country intended it to be that way...let's give it a spin and see how it works. I know the right wingers hate this but the President puts his hand on the Bible to swear to uphold the Constitution, not the other way around. The Bible seems to cause division in this country, but the Constitution brings us together...that is something we need more of in this country right now. Here is a novel idea. Let the Bible be the Bible and be a book for personal guidance. Let the Government be the Government and have the Constitution and Bill of Rights for its guidance. How about not letting the two intersect? The founders of this country intended it to be that way...let's give it a spin and see how it works. I know the right wingers hate this but the President puts his hand on the Bible to swear to uphold the Constitution, not the other way around. The Bible seems to cause division in this country, but the Constitution brings us together...that is something we need more of in this country right now.

]]> By: Garry http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157153 Garry Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:55:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157153 The church has no business in politics. PERIOD No-one has the right BUT god to decide who is good and who is bad and who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. The holier than thous who think they know what he (god) thinks are in need of serious help. We see exactly what religion and politics have done to this country..keep religion in the pulpit and out of the White House. It is one thing to believe in God, it is another to push it down the throats of others (Bush). The church has no business in politics. PERIOD
No-one has the right BUT god to decide who is good and who is bad and who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.
The holier than thous who think they know what he (god) thinks are in need of serious help.
We see exactly what religion and politics have done to this country..keep religion in the pulpit and out of the White House. It is one thing to believe in God, it is another to push it down the throats of others (Bush).

]]> By: Kevin http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157152 Kevin Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:55:19 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157152 That's why I like Pastor Osteen. I am a Christian, I support President Obama and I know God sent him to us to stop the coruption and ungodly acts of President Bush. Bush was the devil in sheeps clothes, and God has saved our Nation and our people by sending us President Obama. God Speed President Obama, we pray that the will and might of Gods hand guide you into this new generation. God bring confort to those who cannot afford health care or put food on the table, God bring comfort to those family's who are losing their young men and women in Iraq and Afgahnastan and those children being killed every day. God bring wisdom to our new President to lead us out of this time of economic nightmares and into a land of new prosperity. God be with our Nation, our President and our people. That's why I like Pastor Osteen. I am a Christian, I support President Obama and I know God sent him to us to stop the coruption and ungodly acts of President Bush. Bush was the devil in sheeps clothes, and God has saved our Nation and our people by sending us President Obama. God Speed President Obama, we pray that the will and might of Gods hand guide you into this new generation. God bring confort to those who cannot afford health care or put food on the table, God bring comfort to those family's who are losing their young men and women in Iraq and Afgahnastan and those children being killed every day. God bring wisdom to our new President to lead us out of this time of economic nightmares and into a land of new prosperity.
God be with our Nation, our President and our people.

]]> By: FreeNLovIt http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157145 FreeNLovIt Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:54:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157145 Joel answers to God. He does not have to answer to men. And God does put the right people in office to ALWAYS of course, to advance a greater cause, whether it'd be good or bad. Proverbs 16 "The Lord works out everything for his own ends - even the wicked for a day of disaster". Obama is our FIRST WORLD Prez on the stage. Joel answers to God. He does not have to answer to men. And God does put the right people in office to ALWAYS of course, to advance a greater cause, whether it'd be good or bad. Proverbs 16 "The Lord works out everything for his own ends – even the wicked for a day of disaster". Obama is our FIRST WORLD Prez on the stage.

]]> By: MICK from MESA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157116 MICK from MESA Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:51:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157116 Another religious fraud heard from. All this Osteen con artist is good for is blowing sunshine up our skirts and now he's trying to get another 15 mins. of fame by saying Obama getting elected is "god's will". God had nothing to do with it - a great campaign, money and the voters did it... Another religious fraud heard from. All this Osteen con artist is good for is blowing sunshine up our skirts and now he's trying to get another 15 mins. of fame by saying Obama getting elected is "god's will".

God had nothing to do with it – a great campaign, money and the voters did it...

]]> By: Chris http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157098 Chris Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:50:19 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157098 Commenter Jim seems to think that his post will upset people. However, it is the post by JS that bothers me more. Jim does not believe and states his reasons for it. Although I disagree with his conclusions, he is honest about them. JS on the other hand has interpreted (actually misinterpreted) the bible for all to see. JS has totally ignored the teachings of Jesus in favor of his/her own beliefs in the misguided effort to judge. There are many, like myself, who believe that Obama lives and supports Jesus' teachings as well as or better than any politician alive today (which I admit isn't saying much). Obama may not have perfect biblical stances, but to me they are far more Christlike than those of McCain or Palin. By the way, God does not put the "right people in office". Human leaders are a human creation. We choose our own leaders, and we are free to make the wrong choices. Commenter Jim seems to think that his post will upset people. However, it is the post by JS that bothers me more. Jim does not believe and states his reasons for it. Although I disagree with his conclusions, he is honest about them. JS on the other hand has interpreted (actually misinterpreted) the bible for all to see. JS has totally ignored the teachings of Jesus in favor of his/her own beliefs in the misguided effort to judge. There are many, like myself, who believe that Obama lives and supports Jesus' teachings as well as or better than any politician alive today (which I admit isn't saying much). Obama may not have perfect biblical stances, but to me they are far more Christlike than those of McCain or Palin.

By the way, God does not put the "right people in office". Human leaders are a human creation. We choose our own leaders, and we are free to make the wrong choices.

]]> By: Chris http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/09/joel-osteen-weighs-in-on-obama/#comment-2157090 Chris Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:49:16 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=32194#comment-2157090 They might not say it directly... but they urge people to make the "right" decision (aka Republican) and remind people that Obama "could be" a Muslim. Was Jesus ever a bigot?? They might not say it directly... but they urge people to make the "right" decision (aka Republican) and remind people that Obama "could be" a Muslim.

Was Jesus ever a bigot??

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