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This is starting to really spook me. Cheney presiding over this idiotic vote stuff, like the election in Nov was a fraud or something. Everytime I read the news it is more bs from the current admin. or some hypergreedy bastard. Is anyone having a hard time sleeping at night these days and not just cause of economic circumstances? Is anyone feeling like we're teetering on the edge of some sick fascist/marxist takeover? How much more vicious perpetrations are we going to see before Jan 20? More and more I feel so edgy for our country. Is anyone elses nerves all ajingle these days?

Welcome to the Obama era!! After January 20th, it will be solely him to determine his own legacy. From what we have seen so far, he is pretty capable of being a great president. Now, I would like to give suggestion to whomever still questioning his citizenship, labelling him as socialist,..., STOP and be mature!!

To "C the Change":

Abolishing the electoral college and going by popular vote would be the worst possible thing we could do. Popular vote means allowing CA and NY to drown out the voices of small states like WY, VT, ND, and DE. Nothing makes me cringe more than this idea of "one person one vote".

We are a nation of STATES, which are each partially sovereign nations of people. The electoral college allows all states to have some say, while still giving them some proportional influence. Plus, going by popular vote would mean that Obama would have never campaigned in Indiana or Colorado!

By the way, I am a die hard Dem and Obama supporter, but I'm also a strong defender of what the Founders intended us to be: A Federation of States, and not a uniform democracy.

Ok. Whatever your personal opinions are, at this rate they don't matter. Obama is the president elect and there is nothing you can do about it. You shouldn't be mad or disappointed, because it is what it is. If you wanted mccain, i am sorry, but obama is president. You should be supporting him in all the descisions he makes because it is your country, as well as his. You have a right to be disappointed, but you also have a right to realize the truth and move on.

RichMo December 15th, 2008 1:28 pm ET: Get over yourself already. What decisions did your parents make on your behalf as a toddler that we can now hold against you. Please use your head for more than keeping your ears apart.

I believe that the people behind the ridiculous lawsuits questioning Obama’s citizenship are doing this based on discrimination, not because of his race but because of his name. I am certain that if his name was Barry Jenkins or Barack Johnson none of these frivolous lawsuits would ever have been filed.

I don’t know what I like better; the fact that Barack Hussein Obama will be President or that the haters have to deal with him for the next 4-8 years.

And to those whose opinions are rock solid that will never let this go, look on the bright side. If you’re right then you can run Arnold in 2012, talk about landslide.

Alex

I wish they would switch their votes, considering obama still has no experience and is not the best fit for president!
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Keep wishing.

So what they're saying is that these "electors" are basically going to waste a whole day and our taxpayer money to go cast votes that count for absolutely nothing?

Would it be constitutional to remove this vote that counts for absolutely nothing?

@ Kevin

It works both ways buddy. The electoral college also prevents geographic representation from overpowering population representation. I know it makes you sad, but we also don't elect people based on silly maps coloring in entire counties either red or blue based on what the majority of people in that county voted. Fact is, many people in red or blue counties voted the opposite of the color of that county on that map you're looking at to make your fake point. I know it's hard to accept, but the world's not black and white...nor is it red or blue.

Good grief, can you desperate losers get off the birth certificate thing? It doesn't matter if Obama was born on Mars, if either parent was a US citizen at the time of his birth. The whole argument stinks.

Republican dreams of one-party rule are over.

'Nuff said.

@ Florio

Just so you know, he has a birth certificate and it has been verified by the appropriate officials in Hawaii. The lawsuits you people are depending on to end your nightmare of America becoming a freer and more open society are all just fabrications and conspiracy theories and the SCOTUS has said as much by rejecting the appeals as it has. And just so you know, as well, that is a FINAL decision. Trying to bring further challenges to his citizenship or challenges to legislation he has signed based on an underlying challenge to his citizenship...that's not going to get you ANYWHERE...and it certainly won't lock up the administration and waste our time out of spite. The country will keep on chugging forward without you.

THANK GOODNESS THE RETHUGLICANS COULDN'T STEAL THE ELECTION THIS YEAR. THEY ARE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME WITH IT. I CAN SEE THE VEINS POPPING OUT OF THEIR HEADS....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.......WOOOOOO

Hurry up and vote this idiot in so that we can begin his impeachment process. Impeach OBAMA! 2008 the year that Acorn stole the election!

@ RichMo

And BTW...you should probably READ THINGS before speaking in such an uninformed manner. There is plenty of case law and other legal writings defining and contemplating what it means to be a "natural born" citizen. You, sir, have it all wrong.

You are just adorable.

The days of right wing, hateful, ignorant nuts is mercifully coming to a close.

@ RichMo

If indeed the GOP and all the nasty morons out there (because yes, there are nice morons too) find themselves a lawyer or two who shares their equally narrow-minded world view and they challenge every law Obama signs on the basis of this fake citizenship issue, the SCOTUS will reject them all outright, just like it is doing with these appeals. Youre' welcome to go about breaking laws as your version of protest, however, as I would love to see people like you spend lots of time out of circulation with the rest of rational society.

@ WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW:

WHAZZZZZZZUPPPPPP?

Get off the birth certificate thingee already – it has been addressed, redressed, and there ain't gonna be any more investigations on it–no matter how many times you write posts to CNN bringing it up so stop it already.

I think the Electoral College is good in some ways, but can be very corrupt at some points. I mean really, its the Electoral College that made Bush the president...

Obama is a clear winner, and really our great luck to have finally a great president after you know what.
But for future the outdated electoral college system must be replaced by national election. One person is one vote, very simple. No matter whether it is California or Alabama or Indiana. One person – one vote.

Rich Mo and Florio,

You both need a life.

I wish they would switch their votes, considering obama still has no experience and is not the best fit for president!

Reading through these comments makes me sad for America. A bunch of half-wit intellectual wannabes trying to undermine the validity of an incoming president that even the staunchest republicans know deep down was the best choice. Cry wolf somewhere else you children. If his legitimacy to be president was even close to questionable, it would have been found out and reported a thousand times over. You think the vetting process to become president isn't the most stringent anywhere?? Get real. You can all eat your words when Obama turns this steaming mess Bush left us with into something at least halfway decent.

And, now that everyone who matter has verified that Obama was born in Hawaii (not Kenya or Mars or wherever....) here is what the GOP bloggers will hit us with next – Obama's mother had a (gasp) C-section, therefore he is not a 'natural born' US citizen!!!, blah blah blah....get over it

OMG! Whiners please give it up! Obama IS the 44th President of the USA like it or not! Now, let us all work together to clean up this mess that our country is in.

Lots of love to you all... and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

RichMo-December 15th, 2008 1:30 pm ET
Read the laws before spilling your ignorance.
Dual citizenship at birth is really common and natural given the fact that his father was Kenyan (and never wanted to change his citizenship) and his mother was American. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it illegal.
Secondly, the Supreme Court has already ruled many times on the issue of American citizenship, and at least twice on the issue of dual citizenship, and IF any of the legal chalenges on Obama's citizenship or elegibility was strong and good enough (as in 'it's not hateful biased hot air but has its legal values'), then they would have accepted the case and discussed it, regardless of the political implicarions.
Finally, anyone can challenge in court a President's decision, as long as he/she/they have base for it and the legal right to, so what's new?

do away with the electoral college it hasnt always worked....look at 2000 and 2004. not only that the population of the electoral college can over throw the will and votes of the greater population. just by a canidate winning several key states and not the popular vote..............

I'm looking forward to the inauguration and the positive, forward looking programs that Obama has in store for us. Now we will have a real chance to resolve the long-term problems that have come to a crisis point.

May God bless you and keep you, President-elect Obama, your staff, this country, and each and every person reading this.

Abolish the electoral college!

ONE vote in Wyoming is equal to FOUR votes in California.
UNFAIR and UNDEMOCRATIC!!!

I support the Electoral College! When I witnessed the millions of simply confused people vote for McCain and Palin I understand why we have to have a way to make sure we do not have and Old Dying man and a Woman how does not know African is not a country. The Obama election is one of the few time in recent history that the American people actually go it right. Remember the crazy lady who said Obama was Arab – she truly believed that based on the lies she has read and heard. When have to have a system that protects our country and constitution from ideas that are dangerous.

Lord, give it a rest "Welcome to the Obama Show".

Exactly what is the system that Obama has figured out? The electoral college has worked the same for every presidential election and the idea is very simple. Nothing to figure out there.

Misinformed fifteen year olds from Canada can start their anti-Obama hate blogs now

WOW!!!!!!!! We can do a B******** Vote Like This!!!!! But no one did this for the Idiot we have in office now!!!!!!!! I can't believe he won 2 terms in Popular vote!!!!!!! Now that Bush has screwed up the country, we IDIOTS THINKING OBAMA CAN MAKE IT WORSE!!!!??????? GET A CLUE IDIOTS!!!!!!!! WHERE YOU ARE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BUCKET AS THE US TRUELY IS!!!!!!!! WHERE ELSE CAN YOU GO BUT UP!!!!!!!!!

I agree that electing our president should reflect the will of the people. However, we need to remember that this country is a republic, not a democracy. The difference is that we are made up of sovereign states, and it is the states who "vote" for president. In the good old days, the state legislators voted for the electors.

There are several important reasons why the current system works, but the biggest reason is that is forces candidates to campaign and win nation-wide. If a straight popular vote was used, all a candidate would have to do is get votes from the east and west coasts and ignore everyone in between.

The fatc that every state plays a role in electing the President. A lot of people in other countries find that interesting even cool. As states come in with projections, its like watching a sporting event. Its greta to have a system that produces excitement and interest. The EC vote is just a formality. If there was any change, I think maybe the disbanding of the office of Elector but still use the Electoral College as a calculaor or points system. 270 points to win. Which is pretty much what it is now. Only difference of change would be, there would be no formal electors voting. Still, we are a Federal Representative Democratic Republic, which means we delegate representatives to speak for the people. The Electoral College reflects that.

BEFORE YOU VOTE MAKE SURE THAT OBAMA HAS A REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND IT IS VERIFIED.

ALSO CHECK THE RECORDS OF BIRTH IN KENYA!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats alreadt been done. Have you ever heard of the State of Hawaii. I was there I know it exists, and they already certified his Birth Certificate. It's people like you THAT WASTE TIME AND MONEY, NOT THE ELECTORS. THANK yOU iNDIANA

Hey,

The shoe the the was thrown at Prez Bush was meant for the chezzey GOP cheese ball party.

SUPPORT OBAMA....GO OBAMA...GO.

Jelious GOP

For all those opposed to the Electoral College concept..... thankfully, our founding fathers foresaw the power of regionalism and instituted this method of selecting our president. The day is not far off when all the votes in California and New York alone may be enough to elect a president if it were one man-one vote. Voyes from the rest of the country would be rendered meaningless. If you don't belive this, take a quick look at USA Today's county-by-county map of the election.... and see how very little blue there is.

Here's a thought.
What if some of the electors who were supposed to vote for McCain, switch their vote for Obama instead?

Didn't this happen when Hillary's superdelegates switched over to Obama during the Primaries?

The electoral college is a good thing. It makes sure that Congress, not the President is the direct represenative and voice of the people. Look at Venezuela and Russia. They directly elect their presidents and they have a virtual dictatorship each. Also, we have a federalist system, so keeping the states in the process is very important.

The Electoral college is a a very neat and cool system. I support it. And Electors have always voted according to their states. These faithless electors and whatever are far and in between and never affect the outcome. The media is just trying to raise controversy and we fall right for it. And it gives us a balance. Otherwise, if we just relied on the popular vote, candidates would just run in big states. I like the fact that swing states have become a reality. No country does everything solely on a popular vote. Prime Ministers are elected based on an electoral college where what ever party wins the most seats in Parliament or Congress. We have to stop playing the victim. None of these systems take away from your vote. Even proportional representation votes for the party more than the person but it still doesnt harm democracy. So lets stop whining and celebrate a new era. Sometimes i think Democracy has created a nation of whiners.

If any of you is interested in learning more about the Electoral College, the National Archives website has all the information.

Sure it is an antiquated system, but it does work.

There have been over 700 proposed amendments to the Constitution (more than for any issue) and none of them have survived.

In order to change the Constitution we would need 3/4 of all the states to ratify it. Many of the smaller states would not support this.

All in all, it aint that bad of a system.

With all the problems we have running elections, until we come up with a better system, we might as well stick to the Electoral College.

CNN wouldn't be trying to create some drama where it's not needed would they?

@WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEFORE YOU VOTE MAKE SURE THAT OBAMA HAS A REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND IT IS VERIFIED.

ALSO CHECK THE RECORDS OF BIRTH IN KENYA!!!!!!!!!!!

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You need to get a grip of yourself, really!

The Electoral College absolutely still makes sense. The President is elected as the executive of the collective STATES, not of the individuals who reside therein. This conce[pt has fallen out of contemporary awareness but is still consitutionally valid. Our representatives are in Congress, and they are elected by popular vote.

@ Welcome to the Obama Show!!!

I think we can put you in the same romper room facility as Palin...complete with bib, helmet and sippy cup.

Joey – he already is my President (elect). And yes the Electoral College was just as useless when President Bush was elected, both of them, both times. As were ALL of the law siuts in 2000, AL GORE'S included (yes Virginia, Al Gore and the Democrats had their share of election law suits in 2000, they just ignore that part). Anyway, it's just a bit of humor (kind of like SNL), relax. By the way, I am joining the celebration, I'm the one thinking it "would be great if they brought beer", remember.

Even though I am glad that Obama won on Nov 4th, I still strongly dislike our system of indirect voting. The Electoral College is outdated and needs to be replaced by a direct popular vote system.

This process is one of the reasons I've always been turned off by politics...and why most people don't get out and vote. It's a slap in the face....

Who cares what their vote is, the American people have already spoken....Oh but I guess election day didn't count.

Go figure.

Joey – he already is my President (elect). And yes the Electoral College was just as useless when President Bush was elected, both of them, both times. As were ALL of the law siuts in 2000, AL GORE'S included (yes Virginia, Al Gore and the Democrats had their share of election law suits in 2000, they just ignore that part). Anyway, it's just a bit of humor (kind of like SNL), relax.

WHO IS JOHN GALT?

Obama Show-State of Hawaii says the birth certificate is real and verified. Now will you take your medication?

Welcome to the Obama Show, you are off of your medication aren't you? Please do not hurt yourself or anyone else. Dial 911 and tell the operator you need help.

Obama won the election

Obama WAS NOT born in Kenya (his Kenyan grandfather hated his the FACT that his mother was White)

Obama WAS born in Hawaii

Obama will be YOUR president , like it or not.

Peace to you. xxooxx

Yeah... and why do our votes count?????????

@ "Welcome to the OBAMA show"........ DO YOU REALLY HAVE SUCH LITTLE FAITH IN ........YOUR GOVERNMENT......... THAT WOULD YOU BELIEVE THE..........LIES FROM THE FAR-RIGHT-NUTS?

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE NSA, FBI, CIA & CONGRESS.....INCLUDING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WOULD NOT........CHECK..........THE CITIZENSHIP OF........BARACK OBAMA??

TRULY YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

Barack should support Caroline Kennedy for Senator from New York. Barack should support whoever sorurtted him. Caraline Kennedy came out and just as her Uncle Ted , took a chance on Barrack Obama. Obama should support Caroline Kennedy if she wishes to be Senator from New York

Obama is giving the impression that hes going to cow tow to the right. I worked for Obama, if he cow tows, I will turn against him. Support Caroline.

"Post the Names of the Electors if they went against ..."

And we can create hearings for un-american activities (see: Joe McCarthy and the 1950's)

Always questions authority! It is patriotic to do so....

Congratulations President-elect Obama! You will start with a lot of good will in my book. Take your time and along with congress put this country on the right footing!

wow stay safe

I still disagree with the electoral college. Why do we the people get our say and the electoral college can over turn it if they wish? I hate our process and we need to take a serious look at it.

Dear NY Republican, President Obama will be your president too.

I bet you didn't find anything about the political process useless when they were doing it for Bush.

Be a big kid, stop whining, and Join the celebration

Obama 2012

"There is no chance, however, that the electors will overturn Barack Obama's November 4 victory."

And if the electors did, Obama and his "people" would come find you!

Now that politicians like Obama have the system figured out, we should definitely change to a real popular vote. Can you imagine how the corporate thugs in a campaign like Obama's or McCains's would react? Instead of manipulating and buying votes they would have to come up with actual good ideas.

Electors in Indiana have officially cast our votes for Barack Obama as the 44th POTUS and Joe Biden as VPOTUS.
Yea, may God Bless our new leaders and may God Bless the United States of America.

The Electoral College should be scraped and we move toward a popular vote only!!!

This is one of the most useless practices in the election process. They need to do away with it and go with the popular vote.

BEFORE YOU VOTE MAKE SURE THAT OBAMA HAS A REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND IT IS VERIFIED.

ALSO CHECK THE RECORDS OF BIRTH IN KENYA!!!!!!!!!!!
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There are number of useless exercises in the US and this is one of them. The nation can save money, time and efforts by getting rid of all these useless activities. Be productive not useless.

I think that it is a great time in our history to maybe have the "Elector's" vote different and not put Obama over the edge. I would like to see Obama then react to such an event!

We need to Post the Names of the Electors if they went against the American peoples vote. Lets make this transparent as possible. The electors party Affiliation etc. Ha,Ha,Ha

I just wanted to comment on a previous article.

I am one to say that I do NOT like George Doublya... but I think that was very disrespectful for that guy to throw those shoes at him.

That reporter could have been a little more respectful... George is gonna be gone soon and we have a really good guy coming in.. but we are all still Americans and I personally dont appreciate the disrespect he received from that Iraqi reporter.

Don't be surprised if Cheney riggs the electoral count and Bush is elected to a third term!

President-elect Obama is keeping his promise to us all to bring honor and integrity back to politics.
There are a lot of haters out there who hope he wil stumble. But, our prayers and patriotism for this nation will keep him and his cambinet lifted up.

For the first time in my adult life... I am so proud of this nation....
I have always been patriotic...my service to this nation proves that, but today I am proud.

SHAME, shame, shame@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

"...and wouldn't be great if they brought beer, not just any beer but ...". This is THE MOST USELESS part of the election besides the all night "news" coverage.

If Elector vote or not Obama has won, but i would like the idea of Elector also vote according to there wish

Congratulations Mr. President!

HMMM Presided over by Cheney guess that gives the moronic Republicans one final chance to steal the election McCain shouldn't give up his hope.. heck neither should the liar hillary who knows what the clintons might have up their sleeves...

BEFORE YOU VOTE MAKE SURE THAT OBAMA HAS A REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND IT IS VERIFIED.

ALSO CHECK THE RECORDS OF BIRTH IN KENYA!!!!!!!!!!!

It could happen.

They should vote for Bush, or is he on the ballot?

Here come the sore losers trying as they often do to try and connect the dots between Obama and the latest scum bag politician to be exposed as corrupt even if it means stretching insignificant facts, creating details out of thin air, and relying on innuendo because they are so terribly desperate to some how diminish our next President. They do not care if truth, American ideals, or America way of life is sacrificed in the progress. And it is lack of obvious moral convections, which is why the Republican Party is weaker then the Liberian party right now.

OK, here's where the tinfoil-hat crowd inserts all their theories about how Obama isn't really a natural-born citizen, how the electoral vote could still go the other way, yada yada... How about just for fun, this time you all just skip it and go back to reading your National Enquirer?

God, I hope we have someone keeping an eye on Cheney! Wouldn't put it past him to try and screw up the electoral vote, just as a farewell gesture, you know.

I would love to see electoral college done away with. I know it would take amending the constitution but would be worth it. The electoral college no longer makes sense in this mondern age. It funny all of the people advocating change in 2000 have been silent on this. I for this election it worked out, but the next election could be decided by the supreme court. I think Obama seems like the type that would be open to doing what it takes to get ride of the electoral college once the economic crisis is over with.

Change the system. One vote per person and let us decide who we want. Thank God Obama won. America always make things so difficult. But I guess that's how it is when you run the show.

Mr. Obama admittedly held dual-citizenship at birth. (also on Obama's factcheck.org) AT BIRTH. Not Narural-born. if there is admitted dual-citizenship, there's nothing NATURAL about it. The Supreme Court chose not to rule on Obama's Natural-Born Status.

If the electors "rubber-stamp" Obama & don't uphold their oath, to faithfully support the Constitution, then NOT ONE of them will request more clarity on Obama's admitted dual-citizenship AT BIRTH. Precident will be set. The first admitted dual-citizen at birth will be elected POTUS.

Half the country will know this when Mr. Obama places his hand on the Bible Jan 20. How can he take an oath he's admittedly broken? No doubt, every Law, every Executive Order, every military action will be brought back to SCOTUS. This is not to be taken lightly.

Obama admittedly held dual-citizenship at birth. (also on Obama's factcheck.org) AT BIRTH. Not Narural-born. if there is admitted dual-citizenship, there's nothing NATURAL about it. The Supreme Court chose not to rule on Obama's Natural-Born Status.

If the electors "rubber-stamp" Obama & don't uphold their oath, to faithfully support the Constitution, then NOT ONE of them will request more clarity on Obama's admitted dual-citizenship AT BIRTH.

Precident will be set. The first admitted dual-citizen at birth will be elected POTUS. Half the country will know this when Mr. Obama places his hand on the Bible Jan 20.

How can he take an oath he's admittedly broken? No doubt, every Law, every Executive Order, every military action will be brought back to SCOTUS. This is not to be taken lightly.

I highly doubt that when Obama won both the popular vote as well as the majority of the electoral college vote, that his 4 November wins will get overturned. If it were to happen, that would be an ultimate rejection of the will of the people. No it won't happen.