December 18, 2008
Posted: December 18th, 2008 04:10 PM ET

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Gen. David Petraeus hosted then-Sen. Barack Obama on an aerial tour of Baghdad when Obama visited Iraq in July of this year.
Gen. David Petraeus hosted then-Sen. Barack Obama on an aerial tour of Baghdad when Obama visited Iraq in July of this year.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The military has prepared an initial plan for withdrawal from Iraq that meets the demands of the recent agreement with Iraq, but appears to contradict the wishes of President-elect Barack Obama.

Generals David Petraeus and Ray Odierno, the top commanders in Iraq, briefed Defense Secretary Robert Gates on plans for the withdrawal of the 146,000 troops in Iraq, when Gates visited the country last weekend.

In turn, Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, informed Obama this week about "the way ahead in Iraq," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Thursday.

That briefing was a "point of conversation" during the 5-1/2 hour national security team meeting Monday in Chicago, a senior military official said.

An Obama transition official confirmed that Mullen discussed the "current plans developed under President Bush."

Among those attending the meeting were Secretary of State nominee Hillary Clinton, Vice President-elect Joseph Biden and Gen. James Jones, Obama's choice for national security adviser.

The meeting covered a "whole range of topics," including Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Middle East, the transition official said.

The current withdrawal plan proposes removing all U.S. combat troops from Iraqi urban areas in 2009, and all American troops from Iraq by 2011, in keeping with the recent Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, signed by President Bush, according to the senior military official.

The agreement with Iraq details withdrawals for 2009, 2010 and 2011, the official said. It proposes removing troops at a slower pace than Obama promised during the campaign, when he called for all combat troops to be out within 16 months - by the summer of 2010.

The senior military official said the current plan reflects the fact that Bush, who told the military to develop a plan consistent with SOFA, still is in charge. Obama might seek to speed up the troop withdrawal once he becomes president, the official explained.

The Obama transition official agreed, noting that there there "is only one commander-in-chief at a time" and that Gates and Mullen still work for Bush.

"Until the military gets different orders from the president, that is what they are working for," the transition official said.

The transition official noted that there is not much difference between the two plans and, in fact, the SOFA planning is more aggressive because it assumes all troops will be out by the end of 2011.

Obama has called only for combat troops to be out by mid-2010, with a residual force remaining behind to help train Iraqi troops, protect U.S. interests and conduct anti-terrorism missions.

While "there will need to be a discussion about SOFA" and some "tactical adjustments" when Obama takes office, "the reality is that they are on the same glide path," the transition official explained.

Gates told reporters at a press conference in early December that he was "agreeable" with Obama's time frame of 16 months for all combat troops.

"He (Obama) also talked about a responsible drawdown and that he was willing to listen to the commanders," Gates said early this month.

Morrell, the Pentagon spokesman, said current planning could change over time, depending on conditions in Iraq, and they could choose to "tear up that agreement and negotiate a new one for a longer period of time."

In an interview Wednesday on PBS' "Charlie Rose" show, Gates said it was possible troops could remain after 2011, but that it is up to the Iraqis.

"They are a sovereign country and if they tell us after the end of 2011, 'We want you all out,' I think we have no choice but to do that," Gates said.

"When I think of the support that they are likely to need for their air force, for the navy, for counterterrorism, for the continued training, for intelligence, for logistics and so on, my guess is that you're looking at perhaps several tens of thousands of American troops," Gates said, "but clearly in a very different role that we have played in the last five years."

Filed under: Iraq • Obama transition


DE   December 18th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

The best thing Obama can do is let Bush's, and soon to be Obama's, secretary of defense Robert Gates handle the withdrawl of our troops. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi proved they know absolutely nothing when it comes to the military and what they are capable of achieving, "the surge is not working, it will never work, the war is lost". I give Obama a huge amount of credit for keeping Gates, and now he should just stay out of the way and let Gates and the Generals handle the withdrawl that they, the Bush administration, and the Iraqi government have put in motion. Anyone remember what happened when we left Vietnam, all at once, in a big hurry? Cambodia, the killing fields, any of this ring a bell radical libs?

JT from Missouri   December 18th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

I really like how Obama really does put country first by giving our troops that much respect even though it might pose a challenge for him. This is a sign of a great administration to come. Good job President-Elect Obama. I have cofidence that Obama will do what is right for all Americans and for the world. God bless America.
PS. I agree with Peter from California. WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW, I am to waiting for an intelligent comment from you that does not involve close minded and uneducated words. You can give that for Christmas as well.

Dexter Skagway   December 18th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

The one thing the military has consistently proven is that they have no idea what is "the way ahead in Iraq."

John from California   December 18th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Yes Obama ...you are right .. get our trooops out of Iraq now...

Marie   December 18th, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Those of you that are bashing Obama would really like to see Obama fail but he won't.I think that's why you'll be with the rest of us paying for the last eight years of the Bush Administration the only thing the rest of us aren't is so stupid to know that Obama didn't put us where we are which is in a recession.The only thing Bush will be leaving you is a messed up economyy for Obama to clean up.You people are really I mean really stupid and upset because another republican wasn't elected.Haven't you learned anything after eight years or do someone have to throw a shoe at you to knock some sense into your heads.The ones you need to be bashing is Rumsfeld,Cheney,Rove,Bush and those on wall street that have drained us dry financially .McCain is back to the old John Mccain and he seems to be fed up with these liars and crooks .Your all pathedic think about those men and women losing there lives in Iraq and bringing this war to an end and stop thinking about yourself and hoping Obama fails because he may be the only hope of getting those brave men and women back home with their families

bro   December 18th, 2008 8:43 pm ET

yo yo yo yo respect yo elders aiiiiiiiiight? respuck.

CAW in MD   December 18th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

@nom de plume,

If on 20 January Obama said "I want all the troops out now!", how long do you think it would take to remove 150,000 soldiers, war material, equipment, etc.? How long to break down the bases, the prisons (with all the people in them)?

Let me give you a hint - it's not instantaneous. 16 months is actually quite reasonable. 3 years isn't horrible either, since that's talking about all the troops, not just combat troops.

So let the man operate - he seems to know what he's doing...

Brad - California   December 18th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

Troops could remain in Iraq beyond 2011, but "that is up to the Iraqi's..." that's our collective problem – allowing the Iraqi's to make decisions for us and to control our destiny. Get out now! Invest in America, not Iraq.

AKRON, OHIO OBOMA SUPPORTER   December 18th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

OBOMA WILL PULL THE TROOPS OUT. AND HE WILL DO IT BY USING GOOD JUDGEMENT. OUR TROOPS HAS TO GET OUT SAFE THEIR LIVES CANNOT BE PUT IN DANGER WILL WITH DRAWING. OBOMA WILL BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE PRAYING FOR THE LORD TO GUIDE OBOMA IN DOING SO INSTEAD OF BEING SO CRIDICAL

Clatchy   December 18th, 2008 7:44 pm ET

I guess we can all say "Obama lied, people died"?

Gail   December 18th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

and there is nothing I can do about it but have a broken heart for the rest of my life.

Gail   December 18th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

every minute that the illegal and immoral war/occupation continues means many more dead people. War is about death and nothing else – ask the families of the dead people.

Isn't it wonderful our leaders can sling around dates and quantities for a withdrawal date while they and theirs are safe and sound but innocent Iraq people die everyday, every minute. Innocent soldiers die who were lied to. It just makes me sick
The time to withdraw is NOW. Not later, not in 2 years, not in 16 months. NOW NOW NOW .

If you had someone you loved die in this horrible iraq war you would know where I am coming from. I am so mad, I am so angry, I am so sad and so disappointed that the President of my country betrayed us all.

Mr. Lugo   December 18th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

Democrat No More,

Thank you for not being a Democrat anymore, because your an idiot.

So the economy will turn around when Obama stops being Shady????

LOL

Lori   December 18th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

Obama said based on the conditions. Do not compare Obama (who knows who the war is against) with George W (who invades a country for oil under the disguise of 'democracy and freedom') as the same. Whether it takes 16 months or 2- 3 years at least he's put us in the direction of getting the heck out of Iraq!

Don't get mad at Obama. Bush and the Republicans put us in Iraq in the first place and caused this mess. McCain would have had us in Iraq for the next 100 years! It was like McCain got off on going to war!

Greg   December 18th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Most of the military veterans arent for the war and haven been for many years, contrary to the guy above who said that.

JEAN   December 18th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

Obama expected by some Americans to rescue them from everything. Wronggggg!!

GuyInVA   December 18th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

Do I even have to read this? I'm sure he's just reiterating his promise to have the troops out in 16 months. That's May 20, 2010 by my calendar.

Darth Vadik, CA   December 18th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

No crap Sherlock!

Matt   December 18th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

@ Archie H.

You're completely right. Us lefties hate the military so much we want our sons and daughters to come home ALIVE as soon as possible. It's not the military we hate dopey...it's the errant use of force and shameless waste of human life for unjustifiable nonsense that we've got a problem with. Capiche?

sunshine   December 18th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

once america gets to keep the billions of dollars that the republicans and bush have been giving to iraq every month, i think then people will understand obamas plan for america.

Matt   December 18th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

@ Welcome to the Obama Show

Well, whatever yo may think about Obama, at least God is more likely to help us over the next 4 years...seeing as how we will no longer have a minion of satan as our POTUS.

ran   December 18th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

People give Obama a break he has not even taken the oath yet. If he does not get our troops out we can get him out in 4 yrs.

Shannon   December 18th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

So another promise broken, what promise has he kept. He shelved don't ask don't tell, he has appointed dozens of lobbyist to his staff, he isn't repealing the Bush tax cuts, he has decided against the windfall profits tax on big oil, and now the troops aren't going to be home in 16 months.

Seth   December 18th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

It's funny that most Iraq Veterans are for the war, and would like to see it through, myself included.

Peter (CA)   December 18th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Hey Obama Show-Still waiting for an intelligent, constructive comment from you. Can I have one for Christmas?

I have a friend in Iraq. The situation changes a lot. Hopefully, PE Obama can start to move troops out but we do need to be careful of a power vacuum. My buddy told me the Iraqi troops in his region have very little incentive to take over the defense of the country so this could be a big problem.

Archie H.   December 18th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

You can bank on it considering the loathing of the military by the left !

WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!   December 18th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

GOD HELP US FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS!!

mike,texas   December 18th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

How many more must die in vein? Just so a handfull can get richer.

Cori from Colorado   December 18th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

I understand that Obama has told us that there will be a few things that he just wouldn't be able to do, some promises broken along the way, but even if we have to wait another 12 months, oh well, at least it's not another decade! He's ending the war once and for all, and that's what we really want.

As for the multitude of other issues Obama has to deal with, well, we will have to wait and see where the road leads.

From PA   December 18th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

what do you expect from a typical politician...say what people want to hear to get elected than when elected to whatever you want....if people question you....just play the race card....all is well

BO is just B.O.   December 18th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Only way to make Bush look good is time and Obama.

Tim   December 18th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

To GM – "Start the list of broken promises"

What are you on? Obama has said all along that he wants to pull the troops out of Iraq within 16 months. He also made clear that it was condition based. That we would need to keep some troops there to train the Iraqi's. There is a big difference between his plan and Bush's. Bush's plan wants to just pull them out of Cities. Obama will pull them out of Iraq, and leave just enough to train the Iraqi's. Please get your facts straight before you spout of at the mouth...

No incumbents 2010   December 18th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Did "Change we can believe in" mean I'm going to change my mind several times you can believe me!

Carl from MI   December 18th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Man I wish Dubya wasn't so shady, so we wouldn't have to get this economy turned around BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T HAVE TANKED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE... IT ALL HAPPENED ON DUBYA'S WATCH!!!!

Carl from MI   December 18th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

He will be Commander-in-Chief and the military will do whatever the heck he tells them to do!! He'll be pulling them out of Iraq and re-deploying many of them to Afghanistan... where they should have been this whole time!

The Iraq war will be over the day Obama steps foot into the White House... and Dubya will go down in history as one of our nation's worst presidents who started a war he refused to end, cost the lives and body parts of close to 20,000 of our young soldiers, and wasted how many BILLIONS of dollars JUST TO GO AFTER SADDAM, BECAUSE SADDAM WENT AFTER DADDY? THANK YOU, DUBYA!!

I'll be rooting for you during your war-crimes tribunal...

WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!   December 18th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

GOD HELP US FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Hillary = No Obama   December 18th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Obama would have promised the moon if he thought that would get him where he is now.

No Hillary = No Obama   December 18th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Obama would have promised the moon if he thought that would get him where he is now.

GM   December 18th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Start the list of broken promises.

tom   December 18th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Nothing is wrong with that.

steve for positive change   December 18th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

SHADY ?

Texas Teacher   December 18th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Democrat No More...... ARE YOU LOSING YOUR MIND? Surely you are not going to try to blame the economy of Obama... I cannot believe my ears.... have you been living under a rock the last 8 years.....

Hold on... wait a minute! Cindy, is that you again, Girl? *sigh* suck it up.... your man LOST! *LOL* Fast your seat belt and get ready for the Ride!

Gerda Edwards   December 18th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Surprise, surprise, surprise...not.

Obama NEVER talked about an unlimited "responsible drawdown," he only talked about a specific time period of within 16 months "to be done in a responsible manner" – that's May 2010.

It was McCain, Bush, Maliki, and others who talked about a responsible pullout without a specific deadline.

steve for positive change   December 18th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

This will be a critical situation how to get all troops deployed safely. The withdraw should have been planned before starting this STUPID war. I pray that it goes smoothly , but if not ALL THE BLAME will be on Obamas shoulders (which is just wrong). We should not have been there in the first place, so I will always point my finger at the CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR TROOPS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL

nom deplume   December 18th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

KEEP THE PROMISE. TROOPS OUT NOW.

NOT THREE YEARS. NOT SIXTEEN MONTHS

MR PRESIDENT, YOU SAID NOW, AND WE WILL HOLD YOU TO YOUR WORD.

boered1   December 18th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

so the bush cronies tried to slide one by Obama, thank goodness he is honest and straight forward and caught the liars at their game! With this man in charge there is NO DOUBT that the economy and the country will finally turn around and get headed in the right direction!

Rachel   December 18th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

After all we've done for Iraq and they want us out of there....I say I'm Outta Here! Let's see what they can do. One thing could be they need to learn manners. Our troops don't need to keep sacrificing for the likes of them.

Veronica   December 18th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

I hope that means he bring the troops home sooner.

Leah   December 18th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

For the past 8 years, GW didn’t just dig a hole, he was completely buried you and others in your country, dead or alive.
A goodbye kiss from a pair of shoes, couldn’t do enough justice
Bush was the worse shady president ever.
He is going down in American history for years to come as one of the worse, shady, insane president.
Frankly, it doesn’t matter how shady Obama is, he couldn’t’ be worse than GW Bush.

Mike, Syracuse NY   December 18th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Obama has called only for combat troops to be out by mid-2010, with a residual force remaining behind to help train Iraqi troops, protect U.S. interests and conduct anti-terrorism missions.

Who exactly conducts anti-terrorism missions if not combat troops?

EW   December 18th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

He's doing and will continue to do exactly what he did in the Senate. A whole lot of nothing.

Rachel   December 18th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Rome wasn't built in a day and besides...all this economy came about not because of Obama but the Shady higher ups of each bank, company, etc. I feel he has a better chance at it. The guy (Obama) is no dummy. He's surrounding himself with brilliant people and I do believe is a perfectionist. My confidense is in Obama.

BB   December 18th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Funny – I could have sworn Obama said many times that it would depend on conditions on the ground. You all spinning again CNN?

Democrat No More   December 18th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Man I wish Obama wasn't so shady, so we could get this economy turned around.

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