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	<title>Comments on: Post-Prop 8, public opinion on same-sex marriage unchanged</title>
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		<title>By: soulstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>soulstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s your point bob? you lost me...</description>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the people who are against &quot;big government&quot; so frequently willing to legislate people&#039;s behaviors? Is that not an exercise in big government? 
What would happen if the government legislated that only gay marriages would be recognized and heterosexual marriages would be null and void? How would that make you feel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the people who are against "big government" so frequently willing to legislate people's behaviors? Is that not an exercise in big government?<br />
What would happen if the government legislated that only gay marriages would be recognized and heterosexual marriages would be null and void? How would that make you feel?</p>
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		<title>By: Kay MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half of you are a bunch of bloody idiots. You say that gay marriage is forbidden by Christianity and Jesus and the Bible and whatever other religious notions you have. Fine- believe that. It&#039;s a free country. What I don&#039;t understand is why or even how it affects you. You are not being forced to be gay, or be in a relationship with a gay person, it&#039;s not going to physically harm you or hurt your marriages- so why would you care? And DON&#039;T say christianity, or jesus, or the bible. Just because gay marriage goes against YOUR religion, why does it have to be against everybody else&#039;s? If gay marriage doesn&#039;t affect you personally, then why should it be banned because YOU don&#039;t believe in it? 

If gays marry, and you don&#039;t like it, you can ignore it, no big deal. We all have to ignore things everyday in society that we don&#039;t like. But depriving gays of marriage is not fair to them, just because YOU don&#039;t believe in it! You&#039;re not even involved. Just let them do what they want. Don&#039;t penalize them for your beliefs, not everyone shares them. And don&#039;t come back and say I&#039;m contradicting myself by saying that not everyone shares the same beliefs- you&#039;re right. But I think people who are against gay marriage ignoring it everyday, especially since it doesn&#039;t involve them, is fair as opposed to depriving gays of their rights. Balance the scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half of you are a bunch of bloody idiots. You say that gay marriage is forbidden by Christianity and Jesus and the Bible and whatever other religious notions you have. Fine- believe that. It's a free country. What I don't understand is why or even how it affects you. You are not being forced to be gay, or be in a relationship with a gay person, it's not going to physically harm you or hurt your marriages- so why would you care? And DON'T say christianity, or jesus, or the bible. Just because gay marriage goes against YOUR religion, why does it have to be against everybody else's? If gay marriage doesn't affect you personally, then why should it be banned because YOU don't believe in it? </p>
<p>If gays marry, and you don't like it, you can ignore it, no big deal. We all have to ignore things everyday in society that we don't like. But depriving gays of marriage is not fair to them, just because YOU don't believe in it! You're not even involved. Just let them do what they want. Don't penalize them for your beliefs, not everyone shares them. And don't come back and say I'm contradicting myself by saying that not everyone shares the same beliefs- you're right. But I think people who are against gay marriage ignoring it everyday, especially since it doesn't involve them, is fair as opposed to depriving gays of their rights. Balance the scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s translate some &quot;Liberalese&quot;
53% oppose....44% support    = &quot;a slim majority&quot;
53% this summer....55% now   = &quot;unchanged&quot;

On the other hand:
Obama 52%   McCain 47%   = &quot;a Landslide&quot;

Let me throw in a history lesson

&quot;The economy is much worse than we thought&quot;.....Bill Clinton 1993
      Two sentences before proposing a major tax hike...


&quot;the economy is much worse than we thought&quot;...Joe Biden 12/2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's translate some "Liberalese"<br />
53% oppose....44% support    = "a slim majority"<br />
53% this summer....55% now   = "unchanged"</p>
<p>On the other hand:<br />
Obama 52%   McCain 47%   = "a Landslide"</p>
<p>Let me throw in a history lesson</p>
<p>"The economy is much worse than we thought".....Bill Clinton 1993<br />
      Two sentences before proposing a major tax hike...</p>
<p>"the economy is much worse than we thought"...Joe Biden 12/2008</p>
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		<title>By: GuyinIowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuyinIowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@REV. BON
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Your comments make me sick. To even suggest that gay people are into animals justifies your lack of intelligence and understanding.</description>
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<p>Your comments make me sick. To even suggest that gay people are into animals justifies your lack of intelligence and understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To people who point to the bible:

you know that stuff was made up, right?

None of it&#039;s real... I can understand if this was the 1700s or something but we have.... science now. 

Anything arguments you had that existed before the state constitution existed are pointless.... so this whole &#039;since the beginning of time&#039; or &#039;in the bible&#039; man and woman argument is silly.</description>
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<p>you know that stuff was made up, right?</p>
<p>None of it's real... I can understand if this was the 1700s or something but we have.... science now. </p>
<p>Anything arguments you had that existed before the state constitution existed are pointless.... so this whole 'since the beginning of time' or 'in the bible' man and woman argument is silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my neighbors Bill and LInda, just told me they were going to end their marriage when gay marriage becomes legal. GIVE ME A BREAK! What a joke. Just let us live like we desire. We wont change anyone elses marriage status -- we promise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my neighbors Bill and LInda, just told me they were going to end their marriage when gay marriage becomes legal. GIVE ME A BREAK! What a joke. Just let us live like we desire. We wont change anyone elses marriage status - we promise!</p>
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		<title>By: Slash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s adorable when people claim that heterosexual marriage is the only &quot;traditional&quot; marriage. The first recorded gay marriage predates Christianity and went on for centuries before Christians started executing gays. Don&#039;t spout off your uneducated ignorance regarding tradition, because you only expose yourselves as the fools you are.

Don&#039;t spout off your misinformed &quot;voters&#039; will&quot; garbage, either. The will of the founding fathers (who have somehow become near-deified in modern America) was for blacks to be considered three-fifths of a person. We changed it because we came to realize that it was stupid. It does not matter what voter opinion is. Public opinion was once strongly against blacks marrying whites and women voting. Equality transcends the proportion of prejudiced fools who scream about how evil and threatening something that doesn&#039;t involve them is. It&#039;s about unalienable rights, not government &quot;permission&quot;.

Black students needed military escorts when let in to public schools. If the National Guard has to be there for the first gay marriages in Hickville and Howdy-Doody-City, so be it. Fact is, change is coming, and your children and grandchildren will look upon you close-minded bigots the same way we look on our pro-segregation ancestors---as heartless monsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's adorable when people claim that heterosexual marriage is the only "traditional" marriage. The first recorded gay marriage predates Christianity and went on for centuries before Christians started executing gays. Don't spout off your uneducated ignorance regarding tradition, because you only expose yourselves as the fools you are.</p>
<p>Don't spout off your misinformed "voters' will" garbage, either. The will of the founding fathers (who have somehow become near-deified in modern America) was for blacks to be considered three-fifths of a person. We changed it because we came to realize that it was stupid. It does not matter what voter opinion is. Public opinion was once strongly against blacks marrying whites and women voting. Equality transcends the proportion of prejudiced fools who scream about how evil and threatening something that doesn't involve them is. It's about unalienable rights, not government "permission".</p>
<p>Black students needed military escorts when let in to public schools. If the National Guard has to be there for the first gay marriages in Hickville and Howdy-Doody-City, so be it. Fact is, change is coming, and your children and grandchildren will look upon you close-minded bigots the same way we look on our pro-segregation ancestors-as heartless monsters.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda in MS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda in MS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marriage is not a sacred institution. It is a social contract that was instituted to protect property through heirship.  Early marriages had nothing to do with love, were arranged, often between people who had never met before the marriage.  It is still a social contract, and as such, all members of our society, should under our laws, have the same rights.  Ironically, many members of the moral majority in public office have been caught doing the very thing they are condemning so loudly.  Sadly, they didn&#039;t have the guts or integrity to admit  the truth to themselves or to others.  Also, if you think homosexuality is unnatural, you obviously know little about animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage is not a sacred institution. It is a social contract that was instituted to protect property through heirship.  Early marriages had nothing to do with love, were arranged, often between people who had never met before the marriage.  It is still a social contract, and as such, all members of our society, should under our laws, have the same rights.  Ironically, many members of the moral majority in public office have been caught doing the very thing they are condemning so loudly.  Sadly, they didn't have the guts or integrity to admit  the truth to themselves or to others.  Also, if you think homosexuality is unnatural, you obviously know little about animals.</p>
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		<title>By: GuyinIowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuyinIowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heres my take... if religion is the reason for denying marriage as it&#039;s defined..then any marriage that was not done by religious leaders is now null and void. This pertains to half of my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heres my take... if religion is the reason for denying marriage as it's defined..then any marriage that was not done by religious leaders is now null and void. This pertains to half of my family.</p>
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		<title>By: Irritated in Fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irritated in Fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh here we go...those making statements such as &quot;i have gay friends&quot;, its the same as saying you have black friends and claiming not to be prejudice. I had a straight fellah tell me once, blacks can&#039;t change the color of their skin but gays can change who they hold hands with. So I asked him...&quot;you like girls right?, he says ..yep. I say, so you could conciously make a decision NOT to like girls and you could just decide to like boys right..he&#039;s like HELL NO&quot; I said exactly. Being gay is not a CHOICE. I remember when I was as young as 5, liking girls. It was as natural to me as being heterosexual is to straight people. I tried to be &quot;normal&quot;. I dated guys, slept with guys, married a guy. It just wasn&#039;t &quot;normal&quot; to me. I tried suicide, drugs, alcohol, just anything to make me feel better because everyone was telling me how &quot;wrong&quot; I was to like girls. Well, finally God got a message thru to me and let me know it was Okay to love who I wanted to and I said to heck with it and loved who I wanted to. Now, I&#039;m in a long term relationship and happy with it. But, it was a journey getting here. After an 8 yr relationship with a woman, she decided to take my truck and everything I owned. She took mine, left me her piece of junk and took off. Well then, she wanted it back and for me to have nothing so she had me arrested for grand theft auto. During my trial, a witness stood up and said &quot; if this were heterosexuals we wouldn&#039;t even be here!&quot; &quot;it&#039;s only because marriage isn&#039;t legal between 2 women that you can use felony laws to treat their civil situation like a crime!&quot;..Well..it took the jury bout 10 mins to vote a foreman and get the &quot;Not guilty&quot; verdict to the judge. But, if it had been a bunch of bigots, I could have been in prision 15 yrs for driving my own vehicle that I PAID for. How&#039;s that for equality? It&#039;s BS. Time to quit discriminating against people for being what God made them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh here we go...those making statements such as "i have gay friends", its the same as saying you have black friends and claiming not to be prejudice. I had a straight fellah tell me once, blacks can't change the color of their skin but gays can change who they hold hands with. So I asked him..."you like girls right?, he says ..yep. I say, so you could conciously make a decision NOT to like girls and you could just decide to like boys right..he's like HELL NO" I said exactly. Being gay is not a CHOICE. I remember when I was as young as 5, liking girls. It was as natural to me as being heterosexual is to straight people. I tried to be "normal". I dated guys, slept with guys, married a guy. It just wasn't "normal" to me. I tried suicide, drugs, alcohol, just anything to make me feel better because everyone was telling me how "wrong" I was to like girls. Well, finally God got a message thru to me and let me know it was Okay to love who I wanted to and I said to heck with it and loved who I wanted to. Now, I'm in a long term relationship and happy with it. But, it was a journey getting here. After an 8 yr relationship with a woman, she decided to take my truck and everything I owned. She took mine, left me her piece of junk and took off. Well then, she wanted it back and for me to have nothing so she had me arrested for grand theft auto. During my trial, a witness stood up and said " if this were heterosexuals we wouldn't even be here!" "it's only because marriage isn't legal between 2 women that you can use felony laws to treat their civil situation like a crime!"..Well..it took the jury bout 10 mins to vote a foreman and get the "Not guilty" verdict to the judge. But, if it had been a bunch of bigots, I could have been in prision 15 yrs for driving my own vehicle that I PAID for. How's that for equality? It's BS. Time to quit discriminating against people for being what God made them.</p>
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		<title>By: ch</title>
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		<dc:creator>ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Support for gay marriage has increased significantly over the past 10 years.  

Same with the Gays in the Military issue.  In 1993 when Bill Clinton tried to lift the ban against  gays in the military, only about 52% of the population agreed.  

Gays are increasingly accepted as part of the fabric of our society.  

And that&#039;s a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Support for gay marriage has increased significantly over the past 10 years.  </p>
<p>Same with the Gays in the Military issue.  In 1993 when Bill Clinton tried to lift the ban against  gays in the military, only about 52% of the population agreed.  </p>
<p>Gays are increasingly accepted as part of the fabric of our society.  </p>
<p>And that's a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes me sad is that marriage is a touchstone for such heated debate-people act as if it&#039;s taking something away when it&#039;s not. So it&#039;s ok for someone to be &quot;married&quot; for 54 hours or 8 times, but not if they&#039;re gay? I mean, come on. As the mainstream, it must be nice to make the moral judgements on other people&#039;s relationships instead of practicing what you really are taught in the Bible-mostly that you should be KIND to your fellow man, and let God do the judging. And here people will donate tons of money, time and effort to defeating gays being allowed to marry, when we have poverty, an economic crisis, a war, homelessness, child abuse, domestic abuse, cancer, hunger, and a litany of other real issues that don&#039;t warrant the same media coverage or outrage from people. That&#039;s where the church should be focused...and again, if you get a marriage license in order for it to be considered legal (you have to do that even if you get married in a Church) it is somethin that should be granted to all consenting adults regardless of orientation. 

Oh and everyone&#039;s like &quot;Why aren&#039;t civil unions good enough&quot;...um, ok, then make it that way for everyone. If you don&#039;t want other people to be married so badly, why do you belittle the fact that they do? Seriously its unnerving and also-there were laws in many other civilizations and countries that matched the Ten Commandments (even in BC) so yeah, killing and stealing has pretty much always been against the law, so I don&#039;t know where you&#039;re going with that argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes me sad is that marriage is a touchstone for such heated debate-people act as if it's taking something away when it's not. So it's ok for someone to be "married" for 54 hours or 8 times, but not if they're gay? I mean, come on. As the mainstream, it must be nice to make the moral judgements on other people's relationships instead of practicing what you really are taught in the Bible-mostly that you should be KIND to your fellow man, and let God do the judging. And here people will donate tons of money, time and effort to defeating gays being allowed to marry, when we have poverty, an economic crisis, a war, homelessness, child abuse, domestic abuse, cancer, hunger, and a litany of other real issues that don't warrant the same media coverage or outrage from people. That's where the church should be focused...and again, if you get a marriage license in order for it to be considered legal (you have to do that even if you get married in a Church) it is somethin that should be granted to all consenting adults regardless of orientation. </p>
<p>Oh and everyone's like "Why aren't civil unions good enough"...um, ok, then make it that way for everyone. If you don't want other people to be married so badly, why do you belittle the fact that they do? Seriously its unnerving and also-there were laws in many other civilizations and countries that matched the Ten Commandments (even in BC) so yeah, killing and stealing has pretty much always been against the law, so I don't know where you're going with that argument.</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ran…Abortion rights and Gay rights cannot be compared. Marriage is a religious union between two couples. I do support same sex partnerships and the legal rights that go with them. If the majority of the people say they do not want to grant marriage to gay&#039;s then I will stick with it the same as I will stick by who the people elect for president. Abortion, on the other hand, is the killing of a living organism. I bet you are the same person who opposes the slaughter of animals for food. Here is an argument. Why is the sucking of a living embryo out of someone not considered detroying a life form? At least with a cow, we use it to feed ourselves and survive. You hide behind science when it comes to global warming. Well, I am going to hide behind science that says an embryo is a living organism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ran…Abortion rights and Gay rights cannot be compared. Marriage is a religious union between two couples. I do support same sex partnerships and the legal rights that go with them. If the majority of the people say they do not want to grant marriage to gay's then I will stick with it the same as I will stick by who the people elect for president. Abortion, on the other hand, is the killing of a living organism. I bet you are the same person who opposes the slaughter of animals for food. Here is an argument. Why is the sucking of a living embryo out of someone not considered detroying a life form? At least with a cow, we use it to feed ourselves and survive. You hide behind science when it comes to global warming. Well, I am going to hide behind science that says an embryo is a living organism.</p>
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		<title>By: What a shame</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a shame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems if you object to gay marage it&#039;s real hard to have an opinion posted on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems if you object to gay marage it's real hard to have an opinion posted on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: What a shame</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a shame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gays have a good life in America stop pushing to change the morals we want for our children. What about the children? Everyone is so worried about the gays do you stop to think about our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gays have a good life in America stop pushing to change the morals we want for our children. What about the children? Everyone is so worried about the gays do you stop to think about our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Gay Marriage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gay Marriage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gordon, come on, do I have to tell everyone about you and me??  I seem to remember you weren&#039;t anti gay in bed.  Do I have to take you on Jerry Springer to expose you????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gordon, come on, do I have to tell everyone about you and me??  I seem to remember you weren't anti gay in bed.  Do I have to take you on Jerry Springer to expose you????</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep reading the two main themes above, those for and those against.  But one thing really strikes me.  Since when did the right to marry, the privelage of having health insurance, the right to property rights become a constitutional issue.  Health insurance is something you have earned and is not found in the constitution.  Gays/Straights have no constitutional right to marriage or insurance or any of the other arguments.  Stop abusing the constitution over this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep reading the two main themes above, those for and those against.  But one thing really strikes me.  Since when did the right to marry, the privelage of having health insurance, the right to property rights become a constitutional issue.  Health insurance is something you have earned and is not found in the constitution.  Gays/Straights have no constitutional right to marriage or insurance or any of the other arguments.  Stop abusing the constitution over this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev Bon,
As a black man you should be very atuned to an issue such as this.  Just because you are black doesn&#039;t mean you own discrimination or make your experience of discrimination any more real than what a gay person feels.  I am not gay myself, but I would never judge what another person does with another loving person so long as it doesn&#039;t harm others and they aren&#039;t harming anyone.

The real problem is that most people, and I&#039;m pretty sure you are one of them, believe that being gay is a choice.   The only way that we will get past this is to somehow prove that being gay is something you&#039;re born with which is very difficult.  But even then it may not be enough with the aversion to science by religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev Bon,<br />
As a black man you should be very atuned to an issue such as this.  Just because you are black doesn't mean you own discrimination or make your experience of discrimination any more real than what a gay person feels.  I am not gay myself, but I would never judge what another person does with another loving person so long as it doesn't harm others and they aren't harming anyone.</p>
<p>The real problem is that most people, and I'm pretty sure you are one of them, believe that being gay is a choice.   The only way that we will get past this is to somehow prove that being gay is something you're born with which is very difficult.  But even then it may not be enough with the aversion to science by religions.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve found the bottom line:  Gay marriage is different than traditional, so why not have a different name, like civil unions.  Then all you have to fight for is same rights as marriage.   I have a feeling you won&#039;t have to fight that hard, because it is not a contradiction to say no to re-defining marriage and yes to equal rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I've found the bottom line:  Gay marriage is different than traditional, so why not have a different name, like civil unions.  Then all you have to fight for is same rights as marriage.   I have a feeling you won't have to fight that hard, because it is not a contradiction to say no to re-defining marriage and yes to equal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: sandee in Portland</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandee in Portland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the gays would have their equal rights under a civil union, why aren&#039;t they satisfied with that?  I am so tired of each section of our population calling out &quot;foul&quot; for everything under the sun.  In my opinion this is what&#039;s wrong with our country; it&#039;s not about what&#039;s right for our country, but what&#039;s right for each person.  Everyone wants something....greed, greed, greed.  If a civil union gives you the rights you say you want, then why not take that and run with it? I have several lesbian friends who would be more than satisfied with the civil union...even the gays and lesbians can&#039;t agree with what they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the gays would have their equal rights under a civil union, why aren't they satisfied with that?  I am so tired of each section of our population calling out "foul" for everything under the sun.  In my opinion this is what's wrong with our country; it's not about what's right for our country, but what's right for each person.  Everyone wants something....greed, greed, greed.  If a civil union gives you the rights you say you want, then why not take that and run with it? I have several lesbian friends who would be more than satisfied with the civil union...even the gays and lesbians can't agree with what they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Irritated in Fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irritated in Fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just keep the gays in slavery. Let&#039;s keep denying them the rights that everyone else has and maybe someday they will all flee the Land they call home of the free, the brave and the proud. Let&#039;s keep it legal to treat them as less than  humans. I mean after all, we HAD to give equal rights to blacks and illegals, lets just keep someone around to discriminate against because we can. I know that many of them are doctors, nurses, soldiers etc, but geez, they just DO NOT DESERVE the right to have a legal union with the one they love. This is AMERICA, we don&#039;t give rights to homosexuals here. We choose to live in the 19th century and by gosh we should just put whipping posts on every town square for those evil devils who think they should have the right to love who they want. Who do they think they are? Americans? Citizins? Humans?

Signed...a disabled woman veteran, a former Police officer, an EMT, a Volunteer firefighter...a LESBIAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's just keep the gays in slavery. Let's keep denying them the rights that everyone else has and maybe someday they will all flee the Land they call home of the free, the brave and the proud. Let's keep it legal to treat them as less than  humans. I mean after all, we HAD to give equal rights to blacks and illegals, lets just keep someone around to discriminate against because we can. I know that many of them are doctors, nurses, soldiers etc, but geez, they just DO NOT DESERVE the right to have a legal union with the one they love. This is AMERICA, we don't give rights to homosexuals here. We choose to live in the 19th century and by gosh we should just put whipping posts on every town square for those evil devils who think they should have the right to love who they want. Who do they think they are? Americans? Citizins? Humans?</p>
<p>Signed...a disabled woman veteran, a former Police officer, an EMT, a Volunteer firefighter...a LESBIAN.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is a democracy.  The majority rules within reason.  So let me tell you how bad the legal system is in this country.  The state of California spokane and voted down same sex marriage.  Now the California supreme court might just overturn the vote.  And this is a democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is a democracy.  The majority rules within reason.  So let me tell you how bad the legal system is in this country.  The state of California spokane and voted down same sex marriage.  Now the California supreme court might just overturn the vote.  And this is a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, Democrats don&#039;t need a brain, remember those who voted for Obama are the educated elite.  Those who voted Republican can only misuse words such as socialism in an attempt to sound intelligent.  PE Obama has already said that he is not in favor of gay marriages, so what are you talking about.  If only those phonics skills would kick in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, Democrats don't need a brain, remember those who voted for Obama are the educated elite.  Those who voted Republican can only misuse words such as socialism in an attempt to sound intelligent.  PE Obama has already said that he is not in favor of gay marriages, so what are you talking about.  If only those phonics skills would kick in.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki and EW - Marriage is a Civil Right, A Religious Institution as well as a Secular Institution.
How many states from the good ol&#039; South banned interracial marriages under the premise that it was &#039;Against God&#039;s Laws&#039;? And how did it ended? Oh yeah, the Supreme Court ruled that THEY WERE WRONG on any account possible. So, yes, marry (MARRY not unite in a civilian way) anyone that wants to marry you (and who also has the right - i.e. is not under someone&#039;s guard - to do that) is a Civil Right, thanks for the brave fellas of the 50&#039;s, 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s.
If you try to force your Religious concept of something down the throat of everybody else, aren&#039;t you trying to usurp the right of everybody else to have something to think or say about that same matter? Yeah, there is a lot of resistance against gay marriage due to &#039;Religious values&#039; of a portion of the society, but the funny part is that the most vocal opposition comes from a religious group THAT ENDORSES POLIGAMY (ok not all of them but it is still blatantly happening right now among them) and MARRIAGES WITH UNDERAGES GIRLS. 
There is a separation of Church and State because no one wants that self-proclaimed chosen ones dictates what is right and wrong to think, do or not. Leave it to Iran, Saudi Arabia and other TEOCRACIES.
I don&#039;t know any gay couple not because I choose not to, I simply don&#039;t know. Hey, it happens. But since most people that choose not to have any contact with gay people due to a (ridiculous) belief that they are wrong (and according to whom they are -besides them of course, since neither the law or Psychology says that is wrong to be gay), here&#039;s my opinion:
They have their CONSTITUCIONAL right to MARRY as much as anyone has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki and EW &#8211; Marriage is a Civil Right, A Religious Institution as well as a Secular Institution.<br />
How many states from the good ol' South banned interracial marriages under the premise that it was 'Against God's Laws'? And how did it ended? Oh yeah, the Supreme Court ruled that THEY WERE WRONG on any account possible. So, yes, marry (MARRY not unite in a civilian way) anyone that wants to marry you (and who also has the right &#8211; i.e. is not under someone's guard &#8211; to do that) is a Civil Right, thanks for the brave fellas of the 50's, 60's and 70's.<br />
If you try to force your Religious concept of something down the throat of everybody else, aren't you trying to usurp the right of everybody else to have something to think or say about that same matter? Yeah, there is a lot of resistance against gay marriage due to 'Religious values' of a portion of the society, but the funny part is that the most vocal opposition comes from a religious group THAT ENDORSES POLIGAMY (ok not all of them but it is still blatantly happening right now among them) and MARRIAGES WITH UNDERAGES GIRLS.<br />
There is a separation of Church and State because no one wants that self-proclaimed chosen ones dictates what is right and wrong to think, do or not. Leave it to Iran, Saudi Arabia and other TEOCRACIES.<br />
I don't know any gay couple not because I choose not to, I simply don't know. Hey, it happens. But since most people that choose not to have any contact with gay people due to a (ridiculous) belief that they are wrong (and according to whom they are -besides them of course, since neither the law or Psychology says that is wrong to be gay), here's my opinion:<br />
They have their CONSTITUCIONAL right to MARRY as much as anyone has.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, marriage is NOT a religious institution. if it was, you wouldn&#039;t need a marriage license from city hall in order to get it. Also-not everyone subscribes to Christianity, so by saying &quot;God is in the mix&quot; leaves out everyone who isn&#039;t religious or of the same faith. Marriage was a social contract used to expand land and holdings-what&#039;s so romantic about sending you daughter of with a few sheep? It was about financial stability and continuing a blood line. If you want LEGAL marriage rights it is about government NOT religion, so everyone who says its a civil right is correct. I think LOVE is LOVE and we should promoting people being happy and cared about be embracing-isn&#039;t that what Christianity is all about? Isn&#039;t this the same faith that was persecuted under the Romans? And now you want to use religion to persecute others. The only law handed from Jesus, is the Golden Rule-so this basically goes against that bc this certainly isn&#039;t how I want to be treated. 

The margin they&#039;re referring to is 53 to 55 (not the points between for and against).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, marriage is NOT a religious institution. if it was, you wouldn't need a marriage license from city hall in order to get it. Also-not everyone subscribes to Christianity, so by saying "God is in the mix" leaves out everyone who isn't religious or of the same faith. Marriage was a social contract used to expand land and holdings-what's so romantic about sending you daughter of with a few sheep? It was about financial stability and continuing a blood line. If you want LEGAL marriage rights it is about government NOT religion, so everyone who says its a civil right is correct. I think LOVE is LOVE and we should promoting people being happy and cared about be embracing-isn't that what Christianity is all about? Isn't this the same faith that was persecuted under the Romans? And now you want to use religion to persecute others. The only law handed from Jesus, is the Golden Rule-so this basically goes against that bc this certainly isn't how I want to be treated. </p>
<p>The margin they're referring to is 53 to 55 (not the points between for and against).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Syracuse NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike, Syracuse NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, one of the Ten Commandments (#6) is against killing, so I guess due to separation of church and state we need to legalize murder.  Also that pesky commandment about stealing (#8) has to go too, so theft and robbery need to be legalized as well.

20 countries and 5 US states recognize civil unions.  It must be working somewhere.  

James in Nebraska, how does polygamy or marrying an underage person hurt you either?    

Linda in MS, so you mean that spending lots of money can influence a vote outcome?  Wow, wonder who would be President Elect if Obama had kept his promise to use public financing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's see, one of the Ten Commandments (#6) is against killing, so I guess due to separation of church and state we need to legalize murder.  Also that pesky commandment about stealing (#8) has to go too, so theft and robbery need to be legalized as well.</p>
<p>20 countries and 5 US states recognize civil unions.  It must be working somewhere.  </p>
<p>James in Nebraska, how does polygamy or marrying an underage person hurt you either?    </p>
<p>Linda in MS, so you mean that spending lots of money can influence a vote outcome?  Wow, wonder who would be President Elect if Obama had kept his promise to use public financing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to break it to all of you supporters of gay marriage. It is not discrimination in any way shape or form to forbid same sex marriage. The logic is simple: I, a heterosexual, am not allowed to marry another man, therefore forbidding you, a homosexual, from marrying another man cannot by definition be discrimination. No where in the constitution is there a right to marry whomever you wish. If you look back upon our history, we have had marriages for financial reasons, political reasons, all dictated by familes rather than individuals involved in the marriage. Not fair you say? Perhaps. But discrimination? Not by any legal definition. The judges on the Supreme Court of Cali. who found it to be discrimination were legislating from the bench and had no law to support their decision and should be disbarred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to break it to all of you supporters of gay marriage. It is not discrimination in any way shape or form to forbid same sex marriage. The logic is simple: I, a heterosexual, am not allowed to marry another man, therefore forbidding you, a homosexual, from marrying another man cannot by definition be discrimination. No where in the constitution is there a right to marry whomever you wish. If you look back upon our history, we have had marriages for financial reasons, political reasons, all dictated by familes rather than individuals involved in the marriage. Not fair you say? Perhaps. But discrimination? Not by any legal definition. The judges on the Supreme Court of Cali. who found it to be discrimination were legislating from the bench and had no law to support their decision and should be disbarred.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i remember when it was illeagl for a black man and white women to marry also---but thankfully we sane people beat back the crazy right bible thumpers and move forward out of the crazy past into the sane forwardthinking future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i remember when it was illeagl for a black man and white women to marry also-but thankfully we sane people beat back the crazy right bible thumpers and move forward out of the crazy past into the sane forwardthinking future.</p>
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		<title>By: tired of corporate politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>tired of corporate politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should ask one of the openly gay members of Obama&#039;s cabinet - oh wait..........</description>
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		<title>By: TjayeInLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>TjayeInLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say if they don&#039;t have the full rights that all citizens have, then they should be exempt from being taxed as full citizens.  Gay marriage doesn&#039;t affect any of us.  Trying to stop it is just some people&#039;s way of trying to negatively affect those who refuse to live as their lives to appease others.  

It&#039;s hatred in the name of Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say if they don't have the full rights that all citizens have, then they should be exempt from being taxed as full citizens.  Gay marriage doesn't affect any of us.  Trying to stop it is just some people's way of trying to negatively affect those who refuse to live as their lives to appease others.  </p>
<p>It's hatred in the name of Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Daniel Cabrera..........  please stop with the LIES we had enough from the Palin/McCain ticket!  

I am a Democrat, Catholic, wife, mother &amp; grandmother..... 50 plus.  Here is the thing that most people who want to allow Gay marriage do not understand, Marriage is a Sacrament.  To those of us who are religious and from traditions that are ancient Marriage, we believe was designed by GOD, for a man and a woman.  

For us, Christians, marriage is SACRED.  That does not mean, that I hate anyone!  I believe that Civil Unions should be allowed,  that Gay people should be allowed to adopt children.  

Asking Christian whom have believed that marriage IS sacred to change, simply so that some people can have &#039;their way&#039; is like asking Jews or Muslims to believe there are many gods!  Not possible.

Why is it that Civil unions are not enough?  

Why not leave Church and State divided, you want to marry, marry in the church.  Or IF you want a secular or civil union let a judge marry you.  Everyone would be fine with that, since SO many people are unchurched any way!  

Happy Holidays &amp; Merry Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Daniel Cabrera..........  please stop with the LIES we had enough from the Palin/McCain ticket!  </p>
<p>I am a Democrat, Catholic, wife, mother &amp; grandmother..... 50 plus.  Here is the thing that most people who want to allow Gay marriage do not understand, Marriage is a Sacrament.  To those of us who are religious and from traditions that are ancient Marriage, we believe was designed by GOD, for a man and a woman.  </p>
<p>For us, Christians, marriage is SACRED.  That does not mean, that I hate anyone!  I believe that Civil Unions should be allowed,  that Gay people should be allowed to adopt children.  </p>
<p>Asking Christian whom have believed that marriage IS sacred to change, simply so that some people can have 'their way' is like asking Jews or Muslims to believe there are many gods!  Not possible.</p>
<p>Why is it that Civil unions are not enough?  </p>
<p>Why not leave Church and State divided, you want to marry, marry in the church.  Or IF you want a secular or civil union let a judge marry you.  Everyone would be fine with that, since SO many people are unchurched any way!  </p>
<p>Happy Holidays &amp; Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Nothing but a Jeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nothing but a Jeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Oh why is this still an issue with some people in America? There are worse things to concentrate on. I guess people can have a cause, but, I never understood why some of them just don&#039;t have a GOOD cause...Ask yourself, HOW would 2 people who love each other affect YOUR life!!!??? Is it just because you were TAUGHT to hate? The bible is just a shield some people hide behind while THEY do things that are considered worse in their lives. EVERYONE has a closet. What&#039;s in yours? STOP THE HATE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Oh why is this still an issue with some people in America? There are worse things to concentrate on. I guess people can have a cause, but, I never understood why some of them just don't have a GOOD cause...Ask yourself, HOW would 2 people who love each other affect YOUR life!!!??? Is it just because you were TAUGHT to hate? The bible is just a shield some people hide behind while THEY do things that are considered worse in their lives. EVERYONE has a closet. What's in yours? STOP THE HATE!</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Bon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Bon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GET REAL....you know what?  Social liberals are constantly contradicting themselves because on the one hand they say, as you say....&quot;Let people live how they want&quot;.  But then if that were really true then it would be OK for Old Guys to have sex with little girls.  Or people have sex with horses and dogs. Or old women to have sex with little boys, or priests to molest little boys.  All of these are lifestyles and this is how some people want to live, but why do we not consider these things ok.  LET PEOPLE LIVE HOW THEY WANT, RIGHT!?  Let&#039;s allow people to marry their dogs or horses.  Its not hurting anyone, and it make them happy.  LET PEOPLE LIVE HOW THEY WANT....DOWN WITH MORALITY, RIGHT!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GET REAL....you know what?  Social liberals are constantly contradicting themselves because on the one hand they say, as you say...."Let people live how they want".  But then if that were really true then it would be OK for Old Guys to have sex with little girls.  Or people have sex with horses and dogs. Or old women to have sex with little boys, or priests to molest little boys.  All of these are lifestyles and this is how some people want to live, but why do we not consider these things ok.  LET PEOPLE LIVE HOW THEY WANT, RIGHT!?  Let's allow people to marry their dogs or horses.  Its not hurting anyone, and it make them happy.  LET PEOPLE LIVE HOW THEY WANT....DOWN WITH MORALITY, RIGHT!?</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Bon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Bon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki, 

Of course its not good enough because they want to change the religious institution.  Secretly its about changing the ideology of the religious institution.  That&#039;s why civil unions are not good enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki, </p>
<p>Of course its not good enough because they want to change the religious institution.  Secretly its about changing the ideology of the religious institution.  That's why civil unions are not good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prop. 8 was not explained well enough.  I looked at Prop 8 as a civil rights issue.  I wish the No on 8 side had spent more time explaining that to voters.  Explain to people about tax laws, insurance benefits, inheritance laws, etc.  People get so hung up on the word marriage and all they think about is wedding ceremonies and stupid things like that.   No - it is an equal rights issue. 

It amazes me that there is still a group of people, in this day and age - in the United States, that are discriminated against and denied equal rights.  I hope it is overturned</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prop. 8 was not explained well enough.  I looked at Prop 8 as a civil rights issue.  I wish the No on 8 side had spent more time explaining that to voters.  Explain to people about tax laws, insurance benefits, inheritance laws, etc.  People get so hung up on the word marriage and all they think about is wedding ceremonies and stupid things like that.   No &#8211; it is an equal rights issue. </p>
<p>It amazes me that there is still a group of people, in this day and age &#8211; in the United States, that are discriminated against and denied equal rights.  I hope it is overturned</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of Civil Unions for any two people that want to enjoy all the legal benefits there of. &#039;Marriage&#039; is a term that religious institutions should confer on two people at their discretion. Some churches and other houses of worship will marry two people of the same sex. In addition, many will only marry two people of the opposite sex. Unless one likes the idea of church and state as one; or, perhaps, they are prejudice (even with sincere religious beliefs), there should not be a problem. As a result, certain Americans will not be denied legal protections afforded to the majority of citizens. Ultimately we can not have citizens singled out for unequal rights. That is highly unconstitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of Civil Unions for any two people that want to enjoy all the legal benefits there of. 'Marriage' is a term that religious institutions should confer on two people at their discretion. Some churches and other houses of worship will marry two people of the same sex. In addition, many will only marry two people of the opposite sex. Unless one likes the idea of church and state as one; or, perhaps, they are prejudice (even with sincere religious beliefs), there should not be a problem. As a result, certain Americans will not be denied legal protections afforded to the majority of citizens. Ultimately we can not have citizens singled out for unequal rights. That is highly unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Bon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Bon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EW,

I absolutely agree!!....its just a trick to try and force the religious institutions to recognize homosexuality and approve of their lifestyles.  First the religious institutions must recognize same-sex marriage.  Then what&#039;s next; the church will be forced to not speak out on something that they do not approve of.  They try to call it a &quot;civil right&quot; to make it look like they are the victims and draw a sympathy vote (which most Americans have fell for).  But really they are an overbearing, very powerful community that is trying to FORCE their ideology onto others.  WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!  This is not a &quot;Civil Rights Movement&quot;, and as a black man I am HIGHLY offended that you would compare this mess to what took place many years ago.  This is just a group of people that is trying to force their alternative lifestyle onto the American public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW,</p>
<p>I absolutely agree!!....its just a trick to try and force the religious institutions to recognize homosexuality and approve of their lifestyles.  First the religious institutions must recognize same-sex marriage.  Then what's next; the church will be forced to not speak out on something that they do not approve of.  They try to call it a "civil right" to make it look like they are the victims and draw a sympathy vote (which most Americans have fell for).  But really they are an overbearing, very powerful community that is trying to FORCE their ideology onto others.  WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!  This is not a "Civil Rights Movement", and as a black man I am HIGHLY offended that you would compare this mess to what took place many years ago.  This is just a group of people that is trying to force their alternative lifestyle onto the American public.</p>
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		<title>By: Keven @ 551</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keven @ 551</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called &quot;Tyranny of the Majority&quot;.  But I suppose your home school doesn&#039;t teach civics, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's called "Tyranny of the Majority".  But I suppose your home school doesn't teach civics, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike, Syracuse NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike, Syracuse NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone explain how a ban on gay marriage is taking away rights?  It was never a right in all of recorded history, so it can&#039;t be taken away.  Vicki5, I have the same question.  Why aren&#039;t civil unions that grant the same legal benefits as marriage good enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain how a ban on gay marriage is taking away rights?  It was never a right in all of recorded history, so it can't be taken away.  Vicki5, I have the same question.  Why aren't civil unions that grant the same legal benefits as marriage good enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Keven Doesn't Know Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keven Doesn't Know Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keven @ 551:  I guess your home school doesn&#039;t teach civics.
Google: &quot;Tyranny of the Majority&quot;.  Read the Wikipedia entry.
Now, what was that you said about &quot;this is a country where the majority make the decision&quot; 

You rushthuglicans have no idea what Democracy is all about, do you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keven @ 551:  I guess your home school doesn't teach civics.<br />
Google: "Tyranny of the Majority".  Read the Wikipedia entry.<br />
Now, what was that you said about "this is a country where the majority make the decision" </p>
<p>You rushthuglicans have no idea what Democracy is all about, do you.</p>
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		<title>By: Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was it even put on the ballot if it does not really matter?  Talk about a waste of time and money.  That is why I find Calif. to be the joke of the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was it even put on the ballot if it does not really matter?  Talk about a waste of time and money.  That is why I find Calif. to be the joke of the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Lois on the Left Coast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois on the Left Coast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as political and religious &quot;leaders&quot; allow their followers to stay obsessed about the genitalia, reproductive tracts, and other sexual features of their fellow human beings, as long as these private physical parts of our anatomies are considered fair game for the public forum, then this kind of blind, controlling, and hate-filled frenzy will prevail. To those who would tell others what to do in the privacy of their homes, get your noses out of our crotches. To those who can&#039;t stop obsessing about womens&#039; reproductive tracts- get a sex life of your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as political and religious "leaders" allow their followers to stay obsessed about the genitalia, reproductive tracts, and other sexual features of their fellow human beings, as long as these private physical parts of our anatomies are considered fair game for the public forum, then this kind of blind, controlling, and hate-filled frenzy will prevail. To those who would tell others what to do in the privacy of their homes, get your noses out of our crotches. To those who can't stop obsessing about womens' reproductive tracts- get a sex life of your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Shumway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Shumway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call it what you want, I think it is queer behavior whether it be in animals or human.   I appreciate that the majority still agree.</description>
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		<title>By: deb in Colo</title>
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		<dc:creator>deb in Colo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Marriage is a &quot;religious&quot; definition?  Really?  Because when you go down to the court house to get a license it says MARRIAGE LICENSE, not CIVIL UNION LICENSE.

and 

2) @FreeNLovIt  - &quot;Same-sex marriage is forbidden in the Bible.&quot;
Chapter and verse please....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Marriage is a "religious" definition?  Really?  Because when you go down to the court house to get a license it says MARRIAGE LICENSE, not CIVIL UNION LICENSE.</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>2) @FreeNLovIt  &#8211; "Same-sex marriage is forbidden in the Bible."<br />
Chapter and verse please....</p>
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		<title>By: Yes on Prop 8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yes on Prop 8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Philly   December 23rd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

Vicki… How about if before you get on your ideological high horse and try to preach down to the rest of us, you educate yourself. Pick up any newspaper or log onto any news web site and research the topics about which you hope to enlighten others. Because you come across like a moron. It is well documented that civil unions do not work and do not give anyone the rights and privileges everyone–gay or straight–deserves. Wise up.
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Not using it to slam anyone, but this is my point. There should be NO rights or privilages for MARRIAGE, at ALL. The only privilage there is, is being the spouse of your loved one. Government giving special treatment to married people is asenine.

So why don&#039;t we do this, and I&#039;m serious: Remove ALL special rights and privilages that marriage grants, and then lets see if this is really an issue any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Philly   December 23rd, 2008 5:35 pm ET</p>
<p>Vicki… How about if before you get on your ideological high horse and try to preach down to the rest of us, you educate yourself. Pick up any newspaper or log onto any news web site and research the topics about which you hope to enlighten others. Because you come across like a moron. It is well documented that civil unions do not work and do not give anyone the rights and privileges everyone–gay or straight–deserves. Wise up.<br />
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Not using it to slam anyone, but this is my point. There should be NO rights or privilages for MARRIAGE, at ALL. The only privilage there is, is being the spouse of your loved one. Government giving special treatment to married people is asenine.</p>
<p>So why don't we do this, and I'm serious: Remove ALL special rights and privilages that marriage grants, and then lets see if this is really an issue any more.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there should be any Gay Marriages.....I don&#039;t believe in that at all, but there should be legal unions to give them the same rights.
This is my own opinion and nothing to do with any church groups....I can think for myself without any church telling me what to think and do.
People have a right to fall in love with whomever they choose and if it is one of your own gender that is your own choice and who are we to judge that love.
I do however draw the line in this notion of &quot;marriage&quot; that I feel is going too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think there should be any Gay Marriages.....I don't believe in that at all, but there should be legal unions to give them the same rights.<br />
This is my own opinion and nothing to do with any church groups....I can think for myself without any church telling me what to think and do.<br />
People have a right to fall in love with whomever they choose and if it is one of your own gender that is your own choice and who are we to judge that love.<br />
I do however draw the line in this notion of "marriage" that I feel is going too far.</p>
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		<title>By: Yes on Prop 8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yes on Prop 8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Marriage should be given a legal definition. Whether it be between a man and a woman or two same sex people. This isn&#039;t about hating gays for all of us, some of us simply don&#039;t like ANY special treatment of marriage.

It&#039;s a bond between two people and should have ZERO effect from a legal stance. I voted for Prop 8 on those conditions. I agree that we currently have protected status for married couples of opposite sex, but I think we should do away with that as well.

There&#039;s more to it people. Not everyone who voted for prop 8 has something against gays. Get married if you like, don&#039;t...but don&#039;t go around expecting special treatment because you are married (that goes for straights and gays alike).

Sincerely,
Happily Married</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Marriage should be given a legal definition. Whether it be between a man and a woman or two same sex people. This isn't about hating gays for all of us, some of us simply don't like ANY special treatment of marriage.</p>
<p>It's a bond between two people and should have ZERO effect from a legal stance. I voted for Prop 8 on those conditions. I agree that we currently have protected status for married couples of opposite sex, but I think we should do away with that as well.</p>
<p>There's more to it people. Not everyone who voted for prop 8 has something against gays. Get married if you like, don't...but don't go around expecting special treatment because you are married (that goes for straights and gays alike).</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ EW

Nobody is inventing any rights.  There is no reason why a union between a man and a woman should have LEGAL rights with respect to taxes, inheritence and their children while a union between two same sex partners gets none.  Throw them out of your intolerant medievil religious institutions if you want, but they&#039;re equal in the eyes of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ EW</p>
<p>Nobody is inventing any rights.  There is no reason why a union between a man and a woman should have LEGAL rights with respect to taxes, inheritence and their children while a union between two same sex partners gets none.  Throw them out of your intolerant medievil religious institutions if you want, but they're equal in the eyes of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeNLovIt</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreeNLovIt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angels cannot marry US, humans.  It is forbidden and is not a healthy relationship.  Same-sex marriage is forbidden in the Bible.</description>
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