December 31, 2008
Posted: 09:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) — A number of atheists and non-religious organizations want Barack Obama's inauguration ceremony to leave out all references to God and religion.

In a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Washington, the plaintiffs demand that the words "so help me God" not be added to the end of the president's oath of office.

In addition, the lawsuit objects to plans for ministers to deliver an invocation and a benediction in which they may discuss God and religion.

An advance copy of the lawsuit was posted on a Web site by Michael Newdow, a California doctor and lawyer who has filed similar and unsuccessful suits over inauguration ceremonies in 2001 and 2005.

The new lawsuit says in part, "There can be no purpose for placing 'so help me God' in an oath or sponsoring prayers to God, other than promoting the particular point of view that God exists."

Newdow said references to God during inauguration ceremonies violate the Constitution's ban on the establishment of religion.

Newdow and other plaintiffs say they want to watch the Inaugural either in person or on television. As atheists they contend having to watch a ceremony
with religious components will make them feel excluded and stigmatized.

"Plaintiffs are placed in the untenable position of having to choose between not watching the presidential inauguration or being forced to countenance endorsements of purely religious notions that they expressly deny," according to the lawsuit.

Among those named in the lawsuit are Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts, who is expected to swear in the new president; the Presidential
Inauguration Committee, known as PIC; the Joint Congressional Committee on
Inauguration Ceremonies and its chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of
California; and the Armed Forces Inaugural Committee and its commander, Maj.
Gen. Richard Rowe, Jr.

The two ministers scheduled to participate in the ceremony also are named — Rev. Rick Warren and Rev. Joe Lowery. The document includes a quotation from
Warren on atheists: "I could not vote for an atheist because an atheist says,
'I don't need God.'"

In a phone interview with CNN, Newdow said he didn't name President-elect Barack Obama in the suit because in addition to participating as a government
official at the ceremony he also possesses rights as an individual which allow
him to express religious beliefs.

"If he chooses to ask for God's help I'm not going to challenge him," said Newdow. "I think it's unwise."

Newdow said as a member of a racial minority Obama should have respect for atheists who also are members of a minority.

Newdow said religious references in the inauguration ceremony send a message to non-believers.

"The message here is we who believe in God are the righteous, the real Americans," he said.

Newdow said it's unconstitutional to imply atheists and others are not as good.

Newdow acknowledged his suit is unlikely to be successful.

"I have no doubt I'll lose," he said, adding that he hoped to eventually succeed through appeals and that future inauguration ceremonies would exclude religious references.

Filed under: Inauguration


FrankH   December 31st, 2008 2:51 pm ET

Majority Christians or at least say they believe in God?

Majority do NOT attend regular services.
Pronography is a 3 billion dollar industry. Atheist, being a small minority, sure are spending a lot of money.
War is an even bigger industry.

Founding fathers Christians?

Theists maybe but the majority of them did not accept that Jesus was the son of God. Research it and find out for yourselves.

Every mention of God on our money, government buildings and slogans was done long after our founding fathers were dead and buried, not a t the founding of our country

Atheist   December 31st, 2008 2:22 pm ET

This is ridiculous. I don't care if he says it, it's what the CONSITUTION says. If the constitution didn't say "Oh, by the way, feel free to leave out God", then i'd leave that dude out.

Not all of us believe in God, we aren't forced to (Like how you God-lovers aren't forced to believe he doesn't exist)

We are a secular nation, free from what religion dictates. Thank goodness. (Hint: didn't say Thank God. Is there a shred of actual evidence he was alive? Oh that's right the Church has None.)

Paul H   December 31st, 2008 2:08 pm ET

If we truly are a nation with freedom of religion then Obama should be able to say what he want's at his own Inauguration. If an Atheist ever gets into Office he should have the right to omit God from his Inauguration. If a lawsuit like this goes through there is no end to the rights that will fall because of the very few that are offended. We might as well become Russia if we let something like this happen.

Paul in SC   December 31st, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Complain! Complain! You can never satisfy everyone.

PJP in OK   December 31st, 2008 2:04 pm ET

For you people that keep bringing up "the separation of church and state", you really ought to look up what it really means instead of just flying off at the mouth, or with your fingers (typing). The really meaning of separation of church and state is: the state was not to get involved with the churches business, not that the church was not to get involved with the states business.

Paul C.   December 31st, 2008 2:01 pm ET

Even though I'm a moderate and I proudly voted for Obama, I have to say some people don't know the term "when it's not broken, don't fix it". There is no harm to anyone if the President Elect says the oath with "so help me God". I understand how the atheists feel alienated and they are just as American as any Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist. But this person obviously has way too much time on their hands and or he is trying to make himself known and famous, maybe a big chip on the shoulder and an ego the size of Mars. The President Elect saying those words on a bible is not going to turn the atheists into converts or have priests banging down their doors tying them up and forcing to convert. It is used in an oath of office every four years. Please, this man should turn his time and energy into helping this country get back on its feet instead of wasting the public's time and his own money for something that he will never win. More important things to worry about than this, come on!

Larry in Houston   December 31st, 2008 1:58 pm ET

There should not be a lawsuit over this, period…….

This type of "swearing in" and hand placed on a Bible has been going on for the last 200 years….ever since George Washington became our first President….and we use this for other offices throughout this great nation, from the Mayor's Office, Up…….

This should be a non issue…..

Larry C.
Houston, Texas

Irving, TX - Loves President Obama   December 31st, 2008 1:56 pm ET

OMG! are you kidding me……What happen to freedom of speech….

So its okay for the last 43 president to say it, but not the first black president…..

Some people should just keep their mouth closed……Turn off your TV and guess what you want have to hear it.

Sue all you like and don't for the money you are using states "IN GOD WE TRUST"…so are you going to stop you pay checks from coming…..

Get over it WE/YOU have a BLACK president……….

Love you President Obama and Family….

New Yorker   December 31st, 2008 1:56 pm ET

majority rules here and what percentage of U.S. citizens still believe in God?

gl, Pittsburgh   December 31st, 2008 1:55 pm ET

Steve, Chelsea, MI – Yes I think they are nuts if they are trying to stop somone belief. They are atheists not Obama so if they don't want to her God's name then don't listen, but to take this to court is crazy. So yes, I think they are nuts.

Bill   December 31st, 2008 1:53 pm ET

Yawwwn…I know it's been four years since the last inauguration, but most of you should remember this happens EVERY four years. And EVERY four years these lawsuits are shot down. Usually they barely make the news, but I guess CNN and Fox et al are desparate for something to cover. I think I saw a live news conference for Charles Barkley's DUI arrest an hour ago…

Expect something else?   December 31st, 2008 1:50 pm ET

Mr. Newdow: May God have mercy on on you…

FrankinPhilly   December 31st, 2008 1:49 pm ET

It is time to let America show its purality at the inauguration: If we're going to invoke god at the swearing in, let us not exclude other fictional characters like Dr. Seuss, Captain Ahab, Mayor McCheese and Elmo (to name a few).

Proud American   December 31st, 2008 1:48 pm ET

Why don't you Godless Idiots go and find your own country. Don't pray, but who do you think you are to tell me I can't? GOD BLESS AMERICA

Andy   December 31st, 2008 1:47 pm ET

As long as they don't replace him with freaking Allah!

Marc   December 31st, 2008 1:47 pm ET

First of all, I am not the 'Marc' who posted at December 31st, 2008 10:43 am ET. It's just a coincidence of first names.
That said, here's my opinion:
Mr. Newdow is doing exactly the same thing that the religious right have been doing the past years, force HIS beliefs upon everybody else. And in this particular case he's trying to force his opinion over the President Elect. Imagine what would you feel if someone said that your faith is 'not appropriate', even if you're an atheist or agnosthic?
There is separation of Church and State in America? Yes. There is no mention to God in the Constitution? Yes. The 'So help me God' is not actually part of the cerimonial, more like a personnal reference used in the closing of the oath? Yes.
Like someone said before, when comes the time to have the inauguration of the first Muslim/Budhist/Jew/Atheist president the words WILL OBVIOUSLY BE DIFERENT. But until then, he faith of the President is his (and someday hers) business, NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Me (Chicago)   December 31st, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Those of you saying that the forefathers invoked God in the constitution so they know better than us. They also owned slaves – shall we continue that tradition too?

bill for barack   December 31st, 2008 1:46 pm ET

The idiots are blooming early this year.

Sue   December 31st, 2008 1:43 pm ET

We cannot call ourselves a "Christian" nation when we indulge in wars. In fact, most "Christians" in the US worship in a place with a US flag-do they count their allegiance to their God, or to the US? If people truly followed Jesus Christ, they would find a way to end wars, end intolerance, end poverty, forgive our enemies, and live simply. We are far from that model, except for the Amish, Mennonites, old line Brethren, and the Quakers.

If the religious among us do not see the folly of swearing to God to serve and protect the country , thus going against God's teachings, it's no wonder that we are confused about so many other things.

Religious and Proud of it   December 31st, 2008 1:42 pm ET

Give me a break. Our country was settled by Christians, and the word "God" has been closely integrated into our culture since that time. In addition, due to the melting pot nature of our country, the term has grown to include everyone's God of all religions. I am sick and tired of hearing about all these stupid lawsuits trying to knock down statues and take every reference to religion out of the public eye. Because people are so afraid of lawsuits, the country ends up bending over backwards to please minority groups who feel violated. I feel violated that you are taking away my right to talk about religion in public and to have my children pray in school. Get with the program and quit your radical baloney.

Jen P   December 31st, 2008 1:41 pm ET

I think God should be taken out of our govenment totally. Yes. I think money should not have any god's name on it. I think govenment buildings should not have anything religious on them.

At this point, with the country going through pains the way it is, I think this is an arguement for another time. Lets get our men and women out of Iraq, fix our economy and get healthcare straightened out and THEN worry about such luxuries as worrying about this. I think it needs to be worked on, but lets focus on the right things right now.

Randy   December 31st, 2008 1:38 pm ET

PE Obama has the right to say what he wants at the inauguration. If God, and I mean my God, is referenced, then so be it. That is a 1st Ammendment right, is it not?
The ACLU may chime in on this, but why should the majority that believe in a higher power bow to a minority that does not?
I am hoping to bring back school prayer and saying the pledge and invocations and such. I feel my rights, and the majorities rights, were violated when these were taken away.
And to Esther who said, "It does violate the constitution ban on church and state serparation, but somehow the extreme right still believes that theirs is the only religion in America, and therefore should be invoked every time we do anything! Don't they pray before Senate and House hearings? I have profound respect for the Christian religion but eventually American's need to come to terms with real America, it includes everyone! We are supposed to be free to worship not forced to!" There is nothing in the constitution about any separation of church and state. Read it. If you find something, state it chapter and verse, but it does not exist.

tom   December 31st, 2008 1:36 pm ET

so funny how the religous right wants religion to rule this nation yet they want to start wars with any nation that another religion rules that nation…. thru out history every nation ruled by its major religion was and is totally unfair and evil and corrupt…. keep religion out of laws and the government and the u.s.a. will be a great nation. keep letting the bible banging right to impose there antique and out of date ideas run this nation and we will be nothing more than a third world country.

richard   December 31st, 2008 1:36 pm ET

I hope it offends every atheists. I'm only offended by people who get offended

You know who bless you   December 31st, 2008 1:31 pm ET

What if someone sneezes?

Scott   December 31st, 2008 1:30 pm ET

Atheists / Democrats…are they not one of the same?

Y   December 31st, 2008 1:29 pm ET

Tell the atheists to go back in their hole of unbelief and worship themselves. If they don't believe in God and religion then they shouldn't believe in politics and presidents. If they're offended at people praying for the well-being of our President and our country then don't watch the inauguration.

Chris   December 31st, 2008 1:27 pm ET

Oh, give me a break. I'm an agnostic, and, quite frankly, I couldn't care less if the inauguration contains references to God. It's really not a big deal…

Matt   December 31st, 2008 1:26 pm ET

To the unbelievable idiot who would try and sue for this please hand over ever dollar, quarter, dime, nickle and penny you have. They all say In God We Trust on them. You are so immensly stupid you do not deserve to own money anymore. Spend the rest of your days a pennyless idiot you hypocrit.

And to Ryan in Va who does not believe this is a Christian nation please learn some geography and history. Look to your right simpleton at my home state of Maryland. What do you think it was named after dummy?

Don   December 31st, 2008 1:26 pm ET

heres another thing out of everything thats happening in our country some moron deems this topic necessary to bring up. lets worry about the more important things shall we. like kids not getting a decent meal, our school system spitting out uneducated kids, and the homeless.

Wake UP America   December 31st, 2008 1:25 pm ET

This lawsuit is ridiculous!

THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPRESSING THEIR FREEDOM OF RELIGION TO HAVE A CEREMONY TO FIT THEIR BELIEFS! THIS IS A CEREMONY, like a wedding, a funeral, a christening, a baby naming, etc I have attended weddings that are not of my faith, but I respect the choices of the people getting married. I don't cry fowl and run out to place a lawsuit.

This country was founded on religion.

What is the percentage of Christians in this country compared to the number of other religions?

I am so tired of "political correctness" that I finally started telling everyone – MERRY CHRISTMAS! This is being taken to the extremes!

Not everyone is going to pleased about every aspect!

Wait until Oblahblahblah has to make a decision and choose sides in some of the situations that he is going to face when he takes office. Let's see if he still remains "the chosen one" to those who voted for him!

God's religion would be...?   December 31st, 2008 1:24 pm ET

John December 31st, 2008 11:36 am ET

"I see their point. The concept of a Christian "God" is forced down our throats at every opportunity in this country. "

Despite our Jusdeo-Christian heritage, that's not their point John. These folks get torqued at ANY mention of a higher power. As has been pointed out in other posts, God doesn't have a religion; God is just God. Speaking of God in a neutral context is not condoning the "establishment of religion" because religion deosn't have anything to do with God. Religion is a human invention… a convenient way for people to define their own comfort levels with a whole host of issues. Any attempt to attach the phrase "So help me God" to any religious sect or teaching is doomed to fail because by itself, it is a neutral statement; just the recognition that there is a higher power in the universe. That's why the idiot who is suing has lost in similar suits in 2001 and 2005.

xcusme   December 31st, 2008 1:24 pm ET

The anti God's are part of the reason the world is in the state it is in. How dare they want to dictate what should be used because they dont believe. May they burn in hell. We need to put God back in our lives and our country. He is the only entity that will save this God foresaken world. If you want to be atheist so be it but leave the God fearing people out of it. Toooooo much evil in this world and they should not be allowed to have their way.

Matt   December 31st, 2008 1:22 pm ET

To the unbelievable idiot who would try and sue for this please hand over ever dollar, quarter, dime, nickle and penny you have. They all say In God We Trust on them. You are so immensly stupid you do not deserve to own money anymore. Spend the rest of your days a pennyless idiot you hypocrit.

proudliberal-independent   December 31st, 2008 1:21 pm ET

good. it has no place in government. anywhere! i hope they win.

KG   December 31st, 2008 1:21 pm ET

You Christians are way too sensitive. Granted, this lawsuit is silly and frivilous, but stop acting so persecuted.

And by the way, nobody is trying to get rid of Xmas. That's all in BillO's paranoid fantasies.

Don   December 31st, 2008 1:20 pm ET

I have a fix for those that don't want to here God said during the inauguration. Dont listen to it!

Ryan in VA   December 31st, 2008 1:17 pm ET

America is a Christian nation? Really? I defy anyone out there to go to their elected representation and demand that they introduce legislation to adopt Christianity as the official religion of the United States of America. See how far THAT goes toward being made law.

Do that and you'll all see exactly how much the USA is a "Christian Nation."

DOC   December 31st, 2008 1:17 pm ET

I find it rather odd that incoming presidents who claim to be "christians" place their hands on the bible and swear.

The book instructs believers NOT to swear ANY oath but "let your yes be yes and your no be no".

"Swearing in" a president with his hand on the bible goes directly against what that very book instructs!

Strange days indeed…..

Dan, TX   December 31st, 2008 1:17 pm ET

Let's face it, most of us here are atheists, whether we admit it or not. Only someone strange would object to God being mentioned. God can mean many things and everyone has their own view.

Ian Minneapolis, MN   December 31st, 2008 1:17 pm ET

Seperation of church and state people….it's one of the major reasons this country was founded for. Let stop stomping on the constitution. PLEASE

EW   December 31st, 2008 1:16 pm ET

Seperation of Church and State is NOT in the Constitution. Anyone that says it is has not read the document.

Chris in MI   December 31st, 2008 1:16 pm ET

Why are so many who are posing comments having a hard time spelling "separation?" So far, I've seen it spelled "seperation" at least a half dozen times. (Just curious…)

SMR   December 31st, 2008 1:16 pm ET

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S Callahan   December 31st, 2008 1:15 pm ET

The US is a Republic built on the strength of God, and therefore should always be acknowledged. It's not dictating your doctrine, it's acknowleging the Creator.

Waste of Time   December 31st, 2008 1:15 pm ET

This is a total waste of our court systems time! Live and let live. Why do you Atheist care if he says "So help me God!"? You should'nt be offended by a reference to God that isn't made directly at you! It isn't being forced on you!
PE Obama will be promising based on what HE believes in.(Freedom of Speech & Religion) When and if an atheist is ever elected President they will be promising based on what they believe in.(Freedom of Speech & Religion or lack of). At that time we Christians will have to deal with it. So for now you DEAL with it!! Again Live and Let Live!!
Isn't Wednow's 15 min of fame years over with!! Let's all grow up please! This is a very diverse nation……
You can please some of the people sometime, but you can NEVER please all of the people! Let's choose our battles wisely….

Rob   December 31st, 2008 1:14 pm ET

God, I wish all these idiots would just go away. It is not gov't telling the new President what to say but it is the choice of that person of what he wants to say. Every president elect chooses what he wants to say for his inaguration and by no means is he saying it for the whole country. If you don't want to hear it then don't listen. For the guy with the lawsuit I hope nobody gives you a ticket to go to see it !!! It is people like you that ties up our court system with frivolous suits like this instead of concentrating on delivering real justice.

vincent   December 31st, 2008 1:13 pm ET

There are way too many "religionists" who think it is their God given right to IMPOSE their beliefs on others…Look at the bloody history of the Christian faith….and they should all be ashamed. I don't like my place is our culture being grouped with folks like those. Spirituality is free, religion costs way too much. At the end of the day, sometimes all there is left is self respect and dignity. The Christian faith offers neither. It is time to take it off the table in the context of American society and values….and especially when it comes to leading this country forward and re-establishing ourselves in the world community.

KATHY IN NC   December 31st, 2008 1:09 pm ET

IT IS ALMOST UNBELIEVEABLE THAT PEOPLE WOULD WASTE TIME AND MONEY FILING LAWSUITS FOR STUPID REASONS. WHETHER PEOPLE AGREE OR NOT AMERICA IS A NATION FOUNDED ON "IN GOD WE TRUST". I WONDER HOW ANYONE COULD DENY THE FACT THERE IS A TRUE, AND LIVING GOD. I AM INTELLIGENT, COLLEGE EDUCATED, AND I DID NOT MAKE MYSELF WAKE UP THIS MORNING OR DO ANYTHING TO MAKE MY HEART BEAT CONTINUOSLY. IT IS SAD THAT CREATION DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO ITS CREATOR. OBAMA WILL NEED ALL THE HELP, GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND PRAYERS TO GOD TO DEAL WITH ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE FACING AMERICA. PEOPLE CAN FILE SILLY LAWSUITS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IN AMERICA YOU CAN BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE WITHOUT THE FEAR OF PERSECUTION. I AM NOT AGAINST THOSE WHO SAY THERE IS NO GOD, I JUST DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM. LEAVE THE INGURATION ALONE.

Ken Sawyer   December 31st, 2008 1:07 pm ET

You ,CNN ,are your own worst enemy.You censor the truth and protect your investment in future news. You are wiling to forget the past history if it serves your purpose. You will not win in the end if this country is to survive. Socialism destroys democracies.

MikeH   December 31st, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Your religion is none of my business, but Jesus supposedly said "pray in a closet", meaning keep your religion private.

It makes religious people happy to see the invocation ritual, but don't turn it into a public spectacle.

Mankind's future depends on his casting off irrational tribal superstition and pursuing rational thought and best possible scientific truth.

Chris in MI   December 31st, 2008 1:06 pm ET

Hey Moonbeam…I would have rather seen Newdow post his feelings here….then to try to tie up the courts (even for a day!) with his nonsense.

Willow   December 31st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

They have a lawsuit, wanting to keep religion and God out of the inauguration? Then Obama turns around and is sworn in with his hand on the Bible. There is supposed to be a separation of Church and State regarding laws, etc. This is Obama's inauguration, so this is a personal thing, not a governmental thing. He can be inaugurated in any way he chooses. And they've always been sworn in to office with their hand on a Bible. This is about as crazy as the people who are unhappy when others tell them "Merry Christmas", instead of "happy holidays". Duh.

Walt D   December 31st, 2008 1:05 pm ET

God is not a narcissist. Nor does God get bent out of shape if his/her name is not used in public ceremonies like so many pretenders to Christianity seem to believe. God's primary concern is whether we love and do justice to our neighbor everywhere. Anythings less then this is mere religious poppycock.

Brad, WA   December 31st, 2008 1:03 pm ET

I am also an athiest. I live my life without once thinking of religion and I don't like being told religious references. My grandfather was a preacher for 50 years and when he retired he saw the error in his ways and became an athiest as well. He was world famous and you can find his books easily on google. It's not illegal to say any religious references but at the same time it is disrespectful to athiests. If you don't see it that way then to us it is almost like having someone say a racial slur to a minority and expecting them not to be offended. It just doesn't work that way.

snugglebunny   December 31st, 2008 1:01 pm ET

Kind of silly how it's almost 2009 and the greatest country on earth refers to an imaginary being in the swearing in of their highest elected official. This world is in a transition period in it's history. It just a matter of time (probably a long time) before everyone looks back and realizes how foolish we were praying and worshiping such things. It happens to a lot of religions, Christianity will be no different just a lot harder to crack.

Chris in MI   December 31st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

Frivolous lawsuit! And you wonder why lawyers have such a bad rep. The majority of citizens in this country believe in some sort of a higher being. Why should the inaugural ceremony be changed for a small minority who chose not to believe? How about using that law degree to defend poor people in your community instead of this silly crap? For God's sake (I love it!!) DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE THAT MAKES SOME SENSE! You're never gonna win this one.

raul   December 31st, 2008 1:00 pm ET

These Atheists are a bunch of losers

dave   December 31st, 2008 12:59 pm ET

Atheists' dogma sounds awfully religious to me. Will they next sue the treasury for "in God we trust"? Will they come after the pledge of allegiance? Will they also go after the company that backed those old George Burns movies. You atheists and non believers are almost on the same level as PETA members. HAVE A BLESSED DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
……..but most importantly

GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!!

Joyce   December 31st, 2008 12:58 pm ET

If you do not believe in a higher being, fine! Just respect those who do.

Ed, Santa Fe, NM   December 31st, 2008 12:57 pm ET

WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION…. GET OVER IT

Aggie, KY   December 31st, 2008 12:56 pm ET

Read this in an email I received and I think it sums it up: Atheism: The belief that there was NOTHING, and NOTHING happened to NOTHING and then NOTHING magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs…makes perfect sense,doesn't it? LOL!!

Trevor in Ja   December 31st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

There is 'Freedom of Expression'. Let these Atheists express themselves all they want for in so doing the may just prove the point of how much of a Fool they are. Thet don't go to church because GOD offends them so all they need to do is not to watch anything where GOD will offend them.

Phoenix   December 31st, 2008 12:55 pm ET

I keep telling people the religious right and liberals have one thing in common, ignroance. Liberals dress their bigotry and ignorance up in higher education and theory, but the fact remains its still bigotry and ignorance. Liberals are the very reason why our education system has been destroyed because they have been allowed to remove God from everything. They are just angry that they do not own Obama. It's okay for Obama to slam the right, but when he steps on the toes of the left, now somehow he's a traitor.

Jeff   December 31st, 2008 12:54 pm ET

Why does anyone care about each others religious beliefs? I see alot of name calling on here going both ways, and it makes me sick. I could care less about which religion you believe in, that is your own choice to make and it doesn't make anyone any less or more of a person than who they are.

I also find it very hypocritical when people on here want to call someone a bigot because of political affiliation, yet if someone doesn't believe in God, they are quick to oust them. Does that make sense???

Brian   December 31st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

"Newdow should thank God he lives in a country where he can freely pursue such efforts" … because of course, God has produced so many countries where he could not. The majority in fact. (Why do theists always thank God for the occasional time He/She does something right? Seems more like random change to me.)

The important issue is to stop making political decisions based on the presumption that God or the bible are correct. Ceremonies endorcing a supernatural being promote just that. Hence the argument that we should not worry about the environment, because armageddon is coming. Or that gays should not marry … it goes on.

To paraphrase Albert Einstein, considering what God has done to us in the last 5,000 years, His only justifiable excuse is that He does not exist.!

Steve in Las Vegas,NV   December 31st, 2008 12:48 pm ET

Newdow has tried to have his say in other frivolous lawsuits before and thinks now is the time to try this stupid trick again….It won't work again. He is a very small, hateful clown, and he is not alone, just the loudest. Newdow, just crawl back under the rock you call home, and shut up.

Moonbeam   December 31st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

This is free country. People can express opinions with or without merit.
Just read half of the postings on the CNN boards, you can see right away what I mean!

lbw   December 31st, 2008 12:46 pm ET

I feel pretty comfortable saying that the first men to take the oath of office of President were as familiar with the constitution as Mr. Newdow, since some of them were directly involved in its creation. Make sense? If they didn't have a problem with the oath as it was administered, then just like his other bogus suite, Mr. Newdow does not have legal standing to proceed.

David   December 31st, 2008 12:42 pm ET

What next? Do we tear down all of the buildings in Washington because they have the word God inscribed on them or reprint/mint all of our currency? This country was founded on the freedom of religion. We are here because we can worship without fear of persecution. It does not matter whether or not you are atheist, muslim, christian, etc. The president elect is a christian and wants to use God. If an atheist gets elected POTUS, they have the right to change the ceremony to fit their beliefs. We all have beliefs and we need to respect each others beliefs. Frivilous attacks only makes things worse.

dan   December 31st, 2008 12:41 pm ET

Another "Let's make a big deal over nothing" moment for the United States. Does anyone really think that mentioning or not mentioning GOD during the inauguration will affect how well Mr. Obama govern? I'm a Catholic yet whether or not GOD is mentioned never enters my thinking. It should be up to the individual taking the oath whether or not he or she says "so help me GOD." By the way, contrary to what some people believe, GOD is never mentioned in the constitution or the bill of rights. And there is no such thing as a seperation of church and state in the constitution, although some interpret it that way. The constitution basically says the congress cannot endorse or deny any specific religion. If they decided to put a symbol of every known religion up in the Capitol building, it would not be un-constitutional. If they put up specific symbols, and excluded others, it would be un-constitutional.

Azar   December 31st, 2008 12:40 pm ET

The United States is a secular Republic. Therefore, religion should not have any role in the inuaguration ceremony.

still searching for true equality in america   December 31st, 2008 12:40 pm ET

wow… the comments on here are more of a turn off from God than a turn on… we have a seperation from and of religion to keep the government from interefering in our spirituality and to keep religion out of our constitutional equality… but so many idiots just dont seem to get it.. they think that the Christian God is the God of this land.. well .. dont be forgetful, there were people here before americans and they had their own gods.. the true gods of this land… and thus lies the problem, so many gods.. good thing we have a seperation of church and state in this country..

maybe some of you should be more interested in keeping God in your life instead of keeping God in your government.. he will do more good for your eternal salvation if he is in your hearts instead of your laws

Travis   December 31st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

I may be naive, but it seems that mentioning God is not a violation of the Constituation by "establishing a religion". God is not indicitave of any one religion. In fact, it seems to me that insisting that we remove all mention of God is more along the lines of forcing someone's viewpoint on others. God does not specify a Christian God, a Jewish God, a Muslim God, or anything else. I also think it's a little funny that they don't mind the praying, they are just worried that the praying might lead to a mention of God. But again, I am probably just naive.

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   December 31st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

Good luck, Mr Newdow, but throughout history, superstition has always been a stronger social force than common sense.

Steve, Chelsea, MI   December 31st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

gl, Pittsburgh December 31st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

atheists and non-religious organizations – Thow these nuts in Jail. Don't watch it you nuts.

So, if you don't agree with someone, they should be thrown in jail? I believe that you're the nut here.

Pam   December 31st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

Funny that this lawsuit was not brought up when George Bush was inaugurated – twice!
Maybe these folks knew that Bush had his fingers crossed behind his back as he was sworn in!

MurphyMorseJohnson   December 31st, 2008 12:30 pm ET

Since reference to God during the inauguration does not favor any particular establishment of religion, the reference does not violate the First Amendment and should be allowed.

Melissa   December 31st, 2008 12:30 pm ET

*standing ovation for the atheists* Good, its about time someone stood up for us legally. I'm tired of the Christian favoritism.

Willy Brown   December 31st, 2008 12:29 pm ET

What a load of crap! We've become a country of pansys

California Gold   December 31st, 2008 12:29 pm ET

One of the beauties of American is the right to believe in God or to not believe in God, but finding exception with the the way the oath taker pledges their word and demanding court intervention makes the Athiest seem silly and trivial.

James   December 31st, 2008 12:28 pm ET

"As atheists they contend having to watch a ceremony
with religious components will make them feel excluded and stigmatized." /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
I think they need to see a Mental Health Expert to get over the inferiority complex. It is Obama's choice to have it this way. Censorship is not the answer!

Jan   December 31st, 2008 12:27 pm ET

God will have the last laugh!

DOC   December 31st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

I find it rather odd that incoming presidents who claim to be "christians" place their hands on the bible and swear.

The book instructs believers NOT to swear ANY oath but "let your yes be yes and your no be no".

"Swearing in" a president with his hand on the bible goes directly against what that very book instructs!

Strange days indeed….

wow   December 31st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

America is only great for one reason and that is that the foundation of this great country was founded on christian principles. I hope that in the serach for liberty this country does not lose its sensibilities. Leaving God out is a sure way to perdition

REALLY??   December 31st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

Sigh

AnnMM   December 31st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

I'm an ex-Christian, now Deiest, that doesn't believe in any of the writings of man that are reputedly "inspired" by God but enough with all of this. I wish people Merry Christmas not Happy Holidays, I don't care who prays in public and I have no problem with someone saying "so help me God" even if that someone is the leader of the free world. People are just going way, way too far with all of this. Such nonsense, waste of money and court time that should be spent prosecuting hardened criminals. Phooey.

carl   December 31st, 2008 12:22 pm ET

Hey what if I have an objection to public kissing. Should Prez Obama be sued to stop him from kissing his wife in public? He does that a lot, THANK GOD!

PJP in OK   December 31st, 2008 12:22 pm ET

My goodness, leave it alone! It's one of the great things Obama has done right since he was elected to office and this just helps get things started off right at his swearing in. All of you that don't believe in Jesus, then I really do feel sorry for you even if you don't want me to. Just get your Bible out and read John 3:16 and let it minister to you.

Melissa   December 31st, 2008 12:19 pm ET

*standing ovation to the Atheists* Its about time someone stood up for us legally. I'm sick to death of the Christian favoritism shown everywhere despite the legal separation of church and state.

Blue is my favourite colour   December 31st, 2008 12:18 pm ET

Religion is the third rail in all other western governments. American needs to get rid of this christian crap and start living in the real world.

Religious people (the religious right) have hijacked this country because of their ridiculous beliefs, and thier ideals have nearly destroyed our country at the hands of the born-again retarded chimp we have had as president. It's time to get rid of this stupidity once and for all. Believe anything you want in private, but don't try to shove your religious ignorance down my throat–and keep it out of politics.

Linda32   December 31st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Don't they realize this is just like Catholics trying to impose abortion views on the rest of the country. If you do not like what you are hearing tune out for that part and allow the rest of us who believe in God to enjoy. By the way, they do realize Obama is a Christian and would balk at this being taken out.

Felonious Monk   December 31st, 2008 12:13 pm ET

I know Obama is christian and not of the muslim faith, but I do have a question out of curiosity.
What are your thought about a President-Elect taking the oath of office by swearing in with a Koran?
This is a country that supports freedom of religion, any thoughts?

Farrell, Houston, Tx   December 31st, 2008 12:12 pm ET

Who cares, they are small in numbers.

lbw   December 31st, 2008 12:11 pm ET

The first men to take the oath of office of President, with their hand on the Bible, were the creators of the constitution. If they did not see any conflict with the swearing in ceremony as it was, and has always been done, then it should be left alone.

Ct in CT   December 31st, 2008 12:11 pm ET

@ a little sad – if you read the bible and what Jesus said as well as other religious references you will see that swearing an oath is sinful as is swearing on or by anything holy-it is unChristian to take an "oath" but the religious person actually should "affirm"

BTW, not all presidents were sworn in on a bible

gl, Pittsburgh   December 31st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

atheists and non-religious organizations – Thow these nuts in Jail. Don't watch it you nuts.

Randy S.   December 31st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

To Mari: You said "In case the atheist do not know, our Constitution and Bill of Rights mentions GOD. "

Would you care to wager on that? Please quote Amendment and/or Article than mentions God by name.

I'm agnostic myself, but I find such lawsuits childish and frivolous. As many have said, if you don't like it, don't listen. I personally have no problem with the convocation. It will have not one iota of effect on my personal beliefs, and shouldn't on anyone else's if they are firm in what they believe in.

PC has gone to far, nowhere in the constitution does it say we all have Freedom From Being Offended. If you find something offensive, either avoid it or get over it.

Felonious Monk   December 31st, 2008 12:09 pm ET

"Under god" was inserted into the Pledge as a means of fighting Communism in the 50's.

Mike in NH   December 31st, 2008 12:09 pm ET

This is very frustrating to see how we now want to censor this event for some peoples own selfish beliefs. I wonder what will be next? Maybe we won't allow victims of horrific crimes a chance in addressing the convicted because it may hurt their feelings. I just do not understand why it is if one person thinks a certain way, I am now forced to entertain reading it or listening to it. I am sorry, but the last time I checked, we do live in the best place in the world. Lets keep this type of behavior coming forth and see where we stand in the future.
Before this actually goes anywhere I certainly hope our leaders making the decisions use some common sense.

May our people stay strong and diligent against the foes of our country the USA.

Veteran in Kansas   December 31st, 2008 12:08 pm ET

Its time people come to understand that seperation of church and state means that government can not become involved in religion and religion can not become involed in government. It does not mean that all references to god must be stripped from ceromonial events. It it offends you mute your TV, if you find it funny, don't laugh loud enough in intrupt the ceromony, if you want to proclaim it a blessed religious event, go to church, otherwise, enjoy the signifcants of the historical event stop bidding for attention.

Obama 2012   December 31st, 2008 12:07 pm ET

When will the rest of us stand up against this mess & stop these people from trying to take over.

We have the same right to BELIEVE IN GOD just as they have the right not to believe.

Liberal in Los Angeles, CA   December 31st, 2008 12:07 pm ET

This guy needs to do something else with his time!!!! Not all Californians share his thoughts!!!!!

Dee   December 31st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Newdow should thank God he lives in a country where he can freely pursue such efforts.

B.O by any other name is still b.o.   December 31st, 2008 12:05 pm ET

I wonder what they gave their kids for Christmas?
Or do they call it something else because Christmas is Christ?

David   December 31st, 2008 12:05 pm ET

Well spoken Jawahar. Agreed!

C'mon Folks - Get Real!!!!   December 31st, 2008 12:03 pm ET

You've got to be kidding me!!!! C'mon poeple, let this man have his moment!!! Why is it this was not a big deal before, but all of a sudden people want things changed. For all of those who don't want God mentioned, how about you don't attend or watch the inauguration.

usualone   December 31st, 2008 12:02 pm ET

One understands why specific groups of people would not want any reference to religion in the January 20 ceremonies. I'd be surprised if they could win their case, especially at this late date. What concerns me is that when one says that America is 70 percent Christian nation, and therefore it is okay to talk about God on this occasion. What these 70 percent should try to imagine what it is like to be a minority. They are lucky to not have prejudices demonstrated against them as is the case for minorities, whether religious, non-religious, cultural, or racial. If for one moment these people who have not faced discrimination, would get a true glimpse of it, maybe they would be more understanding. I bet some of the hatred ones demonstrate if others are different than them would evaporate. It is easy to "hate", difficult to try to understand others' ways of thinking.

David   December 31st, 2008 12:02 pm ET

For all those that feel God should be removed publicly, then I say remove all of the cursing that has engulfed the network television programs. Remove the Viagra, Cialis, Trojan, Vaginal Creme, etc…commercials that play while my child watches a program. Furthermore, remove the sexualy explicit scenes and homosexuality being shoved down my child throat as well. You do that and I can survive just fine by removing God from the Inauguration ceremony.

Problem is that the same individuals that are angered by Christians that say if you don't want to hear it then don't watch it will make the same remark to this post.

If this country was not built on God originally then it would be understandable. I mean a Muslim nation is not going to stop praying to Allah publicly because it offends me, especially if I made the decision to reside in their country.

I'm so sick of all of the concessions that have to be made for every group of people that get offended at every little thing. If something offends me then I choose not to either view it, attend it or purchase it again is all.

G.R.I.T.S. - Girl Raised in the South   December 31st, 2008 12:01 pm ET

To "Obama…full of himself": no one in the Democratic Party has called Obama the "messiah". That comes from your side of the aisle. Just calling him messiah in your hateful way is against the word of God.

Rick in WA   December 31st, 2008 12:00 pm ET

Esther 10:36 – Use of ceremony or convention in a public environment does not violate the constitution. This is a hoax perpetuated by the left. The constitution prohibits the federal government from designating a state religion. This is separate from the guarantee of freedom of religious expression by citizens of the U.S.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

As far as I can tell, Obama is not, nor has any other President, made any law regarding their personal religious beliefs, nor have they prevented anyone from practicing their own religion.

IndyVoter   December 31st, 2008 12:00 pm ET

First of all, "So help me God" is not part of the Presidential Oath of Office, rather a traditional statement added for emphasis. Second, the establishment of religion clause refers to the powers of the Legislature in that they cannot create laws that force individuals to acknowledge one religious point of view over another. There is no law that says that the President MUST use the words "so help me God in the oath of office". He may if he or she wants but they don't have to. If there was a law that forced individuals taking the office to say "so help me God", then that would be unconstitutional. The President's oath of office has nothing to do with the beliefs of others witnessing it. It is for the President alone to take.

Flo   December 31st, 2008 11:59 am ET

Are you serious, SO HELP ME GOD, SO HELP ME GOD, God is my God almighty I love him with mind, my soul, and my all being.

GOD, JESUS, GOD, JESUS.

You cannot get to God without going through Jesus.

God the Supreme.

DIZIZI31   December 31st, 2008 11:59 am ET

Must be lonely to have no hope and no one to thank for blessings that come their way. Not only lonely but selfish. Good thing about the inaugration… If they choose not to attend they can stay home, turn off the TV and play scrabble.

Besides it's Obama's party and atheists, agnostics don't have to attend of listen.

Amen means so be it. So be God's will. Amen.

heidi   December 31st, 2008 11:59 am ET

Tom in Arizona – it's not that it offends people – it is because it is unconstitutional for the government to have anything to do with religion or promoting any particular faith over another.

B.O.FAN   December 31st, 2008 11:58 am ET

This atheist and non believers are crazy to suggest such thing. That's what you get with too much freedom.
We all live in a society where the voice of the majority is the one that count. This is a country where Christians are majority and 95% believes in GOD. Who care what 1% atheist and non believers think?
If they don't like that idea they can move to a new country where atheist are the majority and their voices will be heard there.
SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY STUPID IN THIS COUNTRY.

Ama Y-D   December 31st, 2008 11:58 am ET

I grew up in animism cultural. However, I don't see anything wrong with using the words "so help me God." I just hope that he truly believe it when he says it!

Samuel   December 31st, 2008 11:56 am ET

Almighty God, please have mercy upon us for we do not know what we do.

God is alive and His Name must be mentioned at all time. God is everywhere including Newdow's home. Yes, Newdow's home. He is the air we breath, the water we drink, the love we feel etc, etc.

He is around us. He loves us and keep us save. Stay blessed America and praise the Lord. Amen.

manhandler   December 31st, 2008 11:56 am ET

Organized religions and wholesale belief in one god or another is the personification of horrendous evil. Throughout history, humans have used a god and whatever corresponding book is supposed to be his word as an excuse to murder, maim, and torture. It is the source of most of mans inhumanity to man. Listen to the words of John Lennons "Imagine." Imagine if their was no religion and we could all live as one.

JohnG   December 31st, 2008 11:56 am ET

All I have to say is, dont try to push your beliefs on me, you religious wingnuts. After all, Santa is SATAN misspelled.

Toby in Illinois   December 31st, 2008 11:55 am ET

The proforma use of religious ritual that does not require others to "believe" anything was the policy of the Roman Empire and was loudly decried by early Christians.
Now that the Christians are in charge…

L Song   December 31st, 2008 11:52 am ET

I agree with this lawsuit. Unless they want also to provide Native American ceremonialists of a number of tribes, Buddhist monks, Rabbis, Muslim clerics, Hindu priests, and male AND female pastors from a number of denominations – not just the constantly-shove-my-views-in-your-face fundamentalist Christians. If not, then the way they run the inauguration is discrimination. Those who believe in God have the right to it – of course – but no one faith has the right to claim precedence over others in America. Freedom of religion means ALL religions are valid – and all spiritual beliefs have equal right to exist – and that includes atheism. I am sick of fundamentalist Christians in America thinking they have the right to define everything in sight – mind your own business and I'll mind mine. Furthermore, the argument that America was 'a Christian nation' in the first place is garbage. It was a Native American nation in the first place – so maybe the new president ought to be having a sun-dance ceremony.

tr   December 31st, 2008 11:52 am ET

Everyone take a pill. The reason why these folks get themselves worked up is all your "Christain Nation" crap. This is a free nation. Freedom of religon means you can be Christian, Muslim or none at all. I believe that seperation of Church and State is necessary to a properly functioning Democracy but I also believe that our traditions should be preserved be they Christian or not. But when folks say stupid things like "why would an Athiest watch the inaguration of a Christain" I'm not surprised about these lawsuits. A comment like that is pure ignorance. Worship whom you like but this country does not "belong" to any faith.

Jawahar Rajan   December 31st, 2008 11:50 am ET

My view is that it should be up to the individual who is taking an oath of public office.
IF he/she feels the need to invoke a GOD then he/she should be free do do so. Also if a person does not want to use the words then they must be free to drop the words.

Just becuase Obama will say "SO HELP ME GOD" that does not mean he is forcing god to help you as well he is just aking God to help him.

But we must be fair and let those who do not want to use the words "So Help Me GOD" to dorp them when needed.

Lets move on to other more important things like fixing the economy and education and healthcare and the nonsense in Iraq so that Obama does not a pair of shoes on his tour.

Jawahar Rajan

True Blue Ohio   December 31st, 2008 11:50 am ET

God Bless America, God knows we need it.

minority?   December 31st, 2008 11:49 am ET

So since obama is of a minority hertitage wise
he should understand and have respect for the
religion so if he was a minority and an atheist
what would that mean?

Question----   December 31st, 2008 11:48 am ET

Rev. Warren does not believe in marriage rights for the gay minority but Obama has still invited him to speak—

Suppose Rev. Warren did not believe in basic human rights for blacks, would Obama still have invited him?

Minorities are minorities and human rights are human rights–people are equal but Obama thinks blacks are superior to gays.

Tigist from Canada   December 31st, 2008 11:47 am ET

We have seen time after time in the Bible when Israel abandoned God they pay the price. America may God help you all in this difficult times. The Bible tells us that “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom."

JL   December 31st, 2008 11:46 am ET

Here's an idea. Stop trying to push your beliefs off on everyone else. I don't care if it's athiest or christian or muslim or whatever! If the PE wants to have religious references at his inauguration, let him! If he doesn't, who cares…there are bigger problems in the world and I'm sick of people trying to tell me (and others) what to believe based on what they believe! It's not what this country is about!

max (NY)   December 31st, 2008 11:46 am ET

Let this selfish atheist know that God is One for all. No one may or can claim total possession of God and/or His blessing. He is not an object or a personal property that can be put off limit. Every person has the right to evoke and call upon God whenever, wherever, and however they want and for whatever. It is up to God to decide whose prayer to and not to honor. I have a biblic verse for this idiot,
" … Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hipocrites! because you shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for you, yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in."(Matthieu 23:13)

Tom in Arizona   December 31st, 2008 11:44 am ET

I'm so sick of governments ( Federal, State, local) bending over backwards for a MINORITY of people who voice their distaste in something that the MAJORITY of Americans still believe in.

This country is over 70% christian and yet one Muslim complains that he/she is offended by a word……..a phrase……or picture and government kisses their butt and takes it down or changes it.

Political correctness in this country is out of control. It's ok to voice your objection, but you shouldn't expect something to change because it offends you but is favored by the vast majority of the country.

a little sad   December 31st, 2008 11:43 am ET

I am a WAY lapsed Catholic, so I can't be considered religious, but I think this whole argument is missing the point of an oath. Whether or not to invoke God is personal to the oath taker.

If a person is taking an oath, I want them to indicate it in a way that means they will uphold the oath.

If a religious person takes an oath, invoking God, that is appropriate.

If an atheist took an oath invoking God, that would be meaningless, since that person does not believe in God and is making what he/she considers an empty promise.

Since PE Obama is a religous person, invoking the God he believes in is totally appropriate. I would be concerned if he would not invoke God.

Barry In Missouri   December 31st, 2008 11:42 am ET

The words "So help me, God" were uttered ad-lib by George Washington at the initial inaguration. Since then, each US president has followed suit as a matter of respect for the office and President Washington. While I understand the Athiest point-of-view and respect their opinion, I suggest they read up on history and understand the significance of the words and why they are said.

If any president ever chooses not to say them, it does not make him/her less president, it just means they chose not to follow Washington's lead.

We are blessed with a freedom of and from religion in this country. Perhaps we can agree to disagree with the people filing the lawsuit, tell them we love them as Christ does and pray for the incoming administration, the American people and the world at large.

Pete   December 31st, 2008 11:42 am ET

If the President was sworn in on the Koran and said, “So help me Alah” I bet the people who disagree with the lawsuit would change their tune pretty fast. The government represents all of us regardless of belief or lack of belief; therefore a publicly elected official endorsing one belief system over another is not only wrong, it’s unconstitutional.

For Christians reading this – Imagine how offended you could be for example if our currency read, “We don’t believe in God.” That wouldn’t represent your views on the matter and you would probably feel pretty insulted. This is now many non religious people feel about the In God We Trust, One Nation under God, and the swearing in of our political leaders with religious texts issue, which is why you keep seeing these lawsuits popping up.

The only way for our government to represent America and not just a certain demographic of America is to remove those religious references. Everyone still has freedom of religion and no ones rights are taken away, and this way we honor the constitution by not favoring one religion or no religion over another. This way everyone is protected.

obama-mama   December 31st, 2008 11:41 am ET

THANK YOU JESUS FOR GIVING ME A HEART FULL OF LOVE AND NOT HATE…..I PRAY FOR ALL THAT DON'T BELIEVE IN YOUR MERCY AND GRACE. AMEN…..

biter86   December 31st, 2008 11:40 am ET

Oh yeah, ED…Athiests want to Screw with CHRISTMAS…the day the this nation celebrates Jesus' birth by buying overpriced crap for their bratty children.

I'm not saying that the lawsuit is wrong…Unfortunately this nation allows anyone and everyone to bring lawsuits upon anything that they deem 'wrong'. However, I, as an athiest, do not agree with the lawsuit. Just because the Presidential Inaguration mentions the word 'God' I'm not offended or stigmatized.

Brian   December 31st, 2008 11:39 am ET

Newdow is doing more to hurt his "cause" than help it. I myself don't believe in god, but I do believe that this lawsuit is little more than a distracting publicity stunt. Newdow's comments show a complete lack of understanding of the Constitution. The religious freedom guaranteed in this country applies to believers and non-believers alike, and Obama is free to mention his faith just as much as I'm free to mention I'm an athiest.

Larry   December 31st, 2008 11:38 am ET

It seems to me that, whereas the majority of Americans DO believe in God, that shoving the minority view down everyone else's throat is in itself bigoted. If I as a gay man can get over my minority status, why cant this man also ACCEPT his place of minority, yet equality?

Carrie Goodeagle Hayden, Idaho   December 31st, 2008 11:37 am ET

It's called Freedom of Speech, President Elect Obama is not trying to convert anyone to his faith. I for one, (a true liberal) am very happy that he believes in God, all intelligent people do, Carl Sagan believed there was a (Grand Creator), that's God. So no one is being forced to believe in anything, lighten' up.

Obama...full of himself   December 31st, 2008 11:37 am ET

I hope he doesn't get confused and say…" In myself we trust"!!!!

The guy is so full of himself he'll probably change all wording to

" In Obama we trust"……..this messiah crap makes me want to puke!!

Wakeup people…….he's a human…..he's not a superhero…..he's not the messiah ( just puked alittle there)…….he's a 1 time Senator from a crooked city who charmed his way to the White House!!!

Greg Pottstown, Pa.   December 31st, 2008 11:37 am ET

This Is indicative of the cry baby citizens of this country. Note I did not say that everyone is a cry baby. Freedom of religion means that you can worship any way you wish. It dose not mean that people can not pray. If you do not wish to hear or see a people pray then shut your eyes and cover your ears, that is your right. I have never attended church I was not baptized or confirmed. If you come to my house for dinner I will ask if you would like to say grace. It is just polite. None other than the far left and the far right cares about this. The words In god we trust were well chosen if you ask me. I don't believe in god but that should not stop you from doing so. Just like many of you may not believe that when I shoot a dear and then consume it I am taking in the energy from the dear and celebrating the sacrifice of the dear that I may live.

John   December 31st, 2008 11:36 am ET

I see their point. The concept of a Christian "God" is forced down our throats at every opportunity in this country. Though the Constitution seems to provides for freedom of religion, what it really means (if you read it closely) is freedom *from* religion – i.e., the government should not promote or pre / proscribe and form of religion above any other and should leave the people to believe and worship as they choose.

So I believe that our government activities should be secular and *not* speak of any religious beliefs.

Neiki   December 31st, 2008 11:35 am ET

This is America where we God-fearing, moral individuals are given the right to believe that God not only exists but sanctions our existance just as equally as those who choose not to believe. So, get over it. We have just as much right to include God in our Presidential inauguration as the non-believers do NOT to believe God exists.

Denise   December 31st, 2008 11:35 am ET

Here we go again. If yo do not want to hear religious references, either purchase ear plugs or do not attend.

Benjamin Iglar-Mobley   December 31st, 2008 11:35 am ET

People should understand that leaving religion out of the public sphere and keeping it in the private sphere is actually protecting freedom of religion, not threatening it. When we force others to acknowledge religious views with which they may not agree, that's an erosion of religious freedom not a protection of it.

The pledge of allegiance should have "under god" removed from it, the way it was originally written.

The national motto should be "e pluribus unum" again, our original motto, not "in god we trust."

Be as religious as you wish, attend worship services every day, pray every day, but please keep it private. Respect others' freedom of religion. We simply should not introduce private religious views into public life. Shouldn't equality be our shared ideal?

Jack in Florida   December 31st, 2008 11:34 am ET

This country was founded upon such principals as "in God we trust," and affords members/non members believers/non believers, their right to practice or not practice the religion of their choice. We should not let these lawsuits change our constitution as we were founded with God in mind, nor change the traditions of our Inaugural process.

Get over yourselves!! Enough of this crap already!!

al in memphis   December 31st, 2008 11:33 am ET

The whole irony in this is that "the right to choose what we believe or what not to believe can only be given by God" Everybody wants to use the "don't offend me" card as a way of advancing their belief.

If you can't have a rationale conversation about what you believe and convince the next person to agree with you– then just have a nice day.

Ct in CT   December 31st, 2008 11:33 am ET

THE ISSUE is whether or not the GOVERNMENT is directly promoting a religious view which is forbidden by the first amendment.

For all the Holy hypocrites out there, Matthew 5:34-37 and James 5:12 quote Jesus as condemning swearing as evil.

The US Constitution permits a person to “solemnly affirm” to help those who do not wish to sin when testifying or taking an oath for another reason.

The swearing-in ceremony does not require the use of the Bible or any other religious book.

Most politicians just pretend to believe for political purposes, and the rest are mostly just hypocrites.

Most should probably be sworn in on a comic book. But that too might offend those who believe in comics.

Juan Grain   December 31st, 2008 11:32 am ET

Oh my GOD. OOPs i guess they gonna sue me too for saying that. There are alot of better ways to waste your money. Like trying to find out what rock you craweled out from under. Or going for a ride on a Russian bottle rocket!!!

S Callahan   December 31st, 2008 11:31 am ET

No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislations, state or national, because THIS IS a RELIGIOUS people. This IS a Christian Nation. (supported by over 80 precedents offered by court to support a 1892 Supreme Court Ruling)

1/20/13   December 31st, 2008 11:31 am ET

First this liberal nut job wants to keep god out of everything during the inaguration, we cant say Merry Christmas whats next allowing gays to marry. This country has gone down the tubes

Matt in CT   December 31st, 2008 11:31 am ET

Haha, here comes the lovely tyranny of the minority once again! They have nothing more to worry about in their arrogant little lives than an invocation? Good luck to you and God Bless!

Mac   December 31st, 2008 11:30 am ET

This is the new reality in America.
Minority rules!

JB   December 31st, 2008 11:30 am ET

What difference does it really make? GW Bush took oath using "so help me God", he also claimed that he's born again and a Christian – and look at his actions over the years, anything but Christ-like. What a fraud. This is a battle that doesn't even need to be waged.

Minnesota   December 31st, 2008 11:30 am ET

If an Atheist was the soon-to-be-president would he be sworn in on a bible with religious overtones to the ceremony? NO. But Obama IS religious and believes in God, therefore he has chosen to do this. Once the Atheists get elected they can change it around, but right now the people picked a God-believing, God-fearing man and therefore he has a right to whatever sort of inauguration he wants.

I am not a believer myself, but I respect other's views and keep it to myself.

Ray Fisher   December 31st, 2008 11:29 am ET

Am an agnostic having absolutely no use for religion of any sort yet religion is a personal matter ergo should never be regulated by legal means nor restricted by anyone. The inauguration is a public display of a personal committment of a President to his nation and should be conducted in any manner the President desires. If he wants his whole family to put their hands together on the Bible, the Constutution, Declaration of Independence, law book, etc… The Constitution does not requirea Bible, only a swearing or affirmation without reference to a Bible.

Rick   December 31st, 2008 11:29 am ET

This is the continuation of democrat/liberal policies as we continue to throw aside religion, morals and ethics which will, if unchecked, bring about the demise of our country.

cat   December 31st, 2008 11:29 am ET

Newdow is a atheist, I am a Christian. America was founded on Christian Values. American Christians except freedom of religion. The most of us have no problem excepting you for who you are and how you want to worship as long as no one is injured.
We as American Christians should not allow others to take away our values any longer. It seems to me…That because we except others freedom of religion. It is now being used as our weakness. Little by little we are losing our Christian rights. If we don't stand up and say no more they will strip us of everything. I say no more..No more am I willing to give up.

Conservative James, Phoenix, AZ   December 31st, 2008 11:28 am ET

Seems like atheists are no different from the religious fundamentalists in this country. They object to something and want everyone else to be against it, too.

Steve - Connecticut   December 31st, 2008 11:28 am ET

I am an Atheist, but could care less if someone uses the Term "God" or says a prayer. That is their business. By the way, there is no mention of "God" or any other Diety in the U.S. Constitution. The "Creator" is mention in the Declaration of Independence.

TRYING TO B OBJECTIVE   December 31st, 2008 11:27 am ET

I believe it is alright to follow the procedure we have used for years to swear in our new pres. Why is this such an issue? We have freedom of religion in this country. I do not believe PE Obama will make any attempt to force his beliefs on any one. He will not put any one in the lions den, he will not declare Christianty as the only accepted religion in the USA. I am a Christian, believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. as in Matt.. I pray our new Pres will pray every day for wisdom, knowledge, guidance, the ability to make decisions that will benefit you, me, the world, and all mankind. Our PE has truly the weight of the world on his shoulders and all we can do is deal with trivia. Folks, please look at things from a broader prospective. PRES. BARACK OBAMA WILL NEED ALL THE PRAYERS, HELP, AND WHAT EVER ELSE IT TAKES TO TURN THINGS AROUND. ONE THING OUR NATIONS DOES NOT NEED IS NEGATIVITY, HATRED, DIVISION, AND UNNECESSARY ATTACKS AND COMMENT ABOUT ONES BELIEFS. He will be a president to all
regardless of how you feel about him. May GOD bless those who harbor such malice and hatred. Believe what ever you want, or if you choose not to believe in anything its OK. Be or believe in any religion
you desire, Obama will still be your pres. and I know he will not condemn you for it. (IT IS ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE ) Get it, he will still have your best interest in his heart and strive to do what is best for ALL.

Shana, Chicago   December 31st, 2008 11:27 am ET

What does saying "so help me God" mean? When people invoke the generic word "God" we really don't know who they are talking about. Do they mean Jesus, do they mean Zeus? I believe there is only one true God, but really your god is whoever/whatever you worship. So if you worship money, then money is your god, etc. Everyone worships something. The person filing the lawsuit probably worships his ideals, so those are his gods. With that said, I am a devout Christian with a personal relationship with Christ, and I don't participate in public prayers unless it is clear who the people are praying to, perhaps the lawsuit filer should do the same!

a secular humanist   December 31st, 2008 11:27 am ET

Religion doesn't belong in the public sphere, period. It's not about "preferences," it's about the separation of church and state. There should be a strict firewall between the two.

Va guy   December 31st, 2008 11:27 am ET

Do hey have trouble handling money? By their reasoning, they would be demeaned everytime they handles cash.

Loyda   December 31st, 2008 11:26 am ET

I believe this guy should be charged with CONTEMPT of Court for bringing AGAIN and AGAIN the same FRIVOLOUS lawsuit…. you have been rejected a few time, pal… get a hint!!!!

Apples for sale   December 31st, 2008 11:26 am ET

I think we should get the deficit under control by taxing all churchs that feel the need to interject politics from the pulpit.The same goes for these think tanks that dont pay taxes but espouse political theories and partisanship.This would go along way to making up the money stolen from us by the Federal Reserve,a private bank making trillions of dollars.Im sure CNN has the guts to print my truthful comment ,but I hope it will.

Lauren   December 31st, 2008 11:26 am ET

On principle, I agree with Newdow. When you really think about it, there is no reason "God" should be invoked here. The separation of church and state should be enforced, whether at an invocation or in our Pledge of Allegiance.

In practicality, this does seem like a futile effort. There are too many Christians who back statements such as "this country is based on Christian values," as if to suggest, those who are not Christians, don't also have values of right/wrong, good/bad, etc. Using this tactic of a lawsuit, Newdow seems to provoke, rather than reasonably argue the value of his position.

Anti-athiest   December 31st, 2008 11:25 am ET

Funny how they don't see the hypocrisy in their lawsuit. Because they don't believe, references to God should be removed. So what should those who do believe say about that.

If they don't believe in violence, have they stopped watching action movies?

Such boring hypocrites!

Alan   December 31st, 2008 11:24 am ET

The constitution only bars FORCING specific beliefs and makes it imperative that ALL religous beliefs be respected. Even the president-elect's. While I favor separation of church and state — I also believe this lawsuit is an attempt to do exactly what the constitution prohibits — LIMIT someone ELSE's ability to express THEIR religion.

Meh   December 31st, 2008 11:22 am ET

I'm an Agnostic and even I think this is a little ridiculous. Obama's a Christian, so isn't it really up to him?

Obama Show> You do know there is a way to turn off your caps, right?

And for those saying it's "evil" not to believe in jesus or god? Get a grip. You've just insulted a vaste majority of the world's population. How Christian of you.

JM   December 31st, 2008 11:20 am ET

How about this. Removing God from the inauguration and government since it is in the constitution will make me feel excluded.

Deb in Colo   December 31st, 2008 11:20 am ET

Geez…I'm not a fan of organized religion, but this is stupid….

John   December 31st, 2008 11:19 am ET

If you have such a problem with the President saying "So help me God" then don't watch the ceremony. If you have such a problem with Warren giving a speech, don't watch the speech.

Obama believes in God, therefore he should get to promise under the God which he believes. If this person suing became president, I would understand if he didn't want to say "So help me God", but he's not the President Elect.

Griff   December 31st, 2008 11:19 am ET

I totally agree….. Religion is not politics….

ZakD   December 31st, 2008 11:19 am ET

The words "So help me God" were an impromptu addition by George Washington at his first inauguration. They are not an "official" part of the process, the fact that they have been incorporated into the ceremony by every president thereafter is more a show of continuity and respect for tradition than an endorsement of a specific religion/set of beliefs.
Shame on those who would tie up our already over burdened court system with such a frivolous lawsuit (Surely Mr. Newdow doesn't believe that the ruling and inevitable appeals would be resolved before the inauguration ceremony anyway?). I am glad to see that the comments in response to this article all reflect the same disgust.

Reds from NJ   December 31st, 2008 11:18 am ET

I am offended watching sports programs where the atheletes spit and scratch their crotches. I think it's crude. I find wrestling and boxing too barbaric. What do I do? I don't watch. Atheists have that choice too. Live and let live.

frem   December 31st, 2008 11:18 am ET

To the atheist Newdow and his fellow minions: "BEGONE SATAN", was our Lords reply; and it holds true today.

John, Brooklyn, New York   December 31st, 2008 11:17 am ET

Specific to Marc…

Actually, the Supreme Court has ruled that the free expression of faith by individuals and the rights of religious groups to gain access to public facilities like any other group does NOT extend to inserting an organized expression of religion into public school events.

They may actually have a case here.

Charlie in Maine   December 31st, 2008 11:16 am ET

PS- If you don't believe in God why are you so mad at him?

pam Eugene OR   December 31st, 2008 11:14 am ET

It would solve the "Rick Warren" problem for Obama. That said, enough is enough. I promise no one can make you to watch it!

Charlie in Maine   December 31st, 2008 11:14 am ET

Thank God I live in a country where I can be a liberal. I will do everything in my power to help Barack Obama be the best President ever so help me GOD. Give this one up my atheistic friends. It is a loosing battle. It will undermine your efforts to keep the right wing-nuts from doing serious damage.

BUSH BEGONE AND NOW 75% OF AMERICA AGREES, FINALLY!   December 31st, 2008 11:14 am ET

"As atheists they contend having to watch a ceremony
with religious components will make them feel excluded and stigmatized."

Why would an avowed atheist want to watch the inauguration of an avowed Christian in the first place? Would that not be condoning everything you do NOT want to have represented?

I agree, and because of Warren, I do not condone the symbolic "around the campfire kubya" moment andI too feel "excluded and stigmatized" however, instead of whining and filing a lawsuit, I will catch up on clearing out my Netflix queue!

I recommend you put on the big boy pull-ups and do the same.

John, Brooklyn, New York   December 31st, 2008 11:14 am ET

I support separation of church and state and deeply believe that only a secular government can seek to represent Americans of all faith traditions. However, I think that the lawsuit is a red herring that distracts from the larger issues of how government sponsorship of faith (e.g. faith-based social programs, religious accommodation of health care providers to refuse care, etc.) erodes our collective civil liberties.

Further, the selection of Rick Warren – a known oppressor of GLBT American families – to participate in the inauguration has diminished BOTH the values of America and the charitable values of Christianity. While I don't support the lawsuit, I do support efforts to leave this man at home.

Louise   December 31st, 2008 11:13 am ET

I agree with the lawsuit…….

the US is the only western democracy that, despite the very much acclaimed separation state/church stated in the Constitution, keeps mixing the two things in every official event.

Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose A PARTICULAR RELIGION in such event.

This country should start to consider religion as a private matter and to stop demonize those who are not "believers"…………

soraya   December 31st, 2008 11:13 am ET

Don't we have more important problems? Serious unemployment, Crazy loans, foreclosures?

G.R.I.T.S. - Girl Raised in the South   December 31st, 2008 11:12 am ET

What an idiot. Simply having a prayer at an inauguration is NOT equivalent to imposing a state religion on citizens. This man needs to get a life and stop trying to limit the expression of an individual's beliefs at his own party. Just as I would never stop this idiot from expressing his belief (or lack thereof) in a public place.

carlo   December 31st, 2008 11:11 am ET

When an athiest becomes President, he can use any kind of oath he likes, if any, since aethiest are accountable to no one for the things they do. Until then, put a sock in it.

Angie   December 31st, 2008 11:11 am ET

Please!!!!!!!!! If you don't want to hear about God mentioned or talked about at the inaguration then don't watch or listen. People that believe in God have as much right to hear God mentioned or talked about as those that don't. So take your non believing selves somewhere else for the day. President elect Obama is a Christian and has a right to be sworn in with the words "so help me God". Michael Newdow turn your tv off. who cares what you think. There must be a God because you failed in 2001 & 2005.

susan   December 31st, 2008 11:11 am ET

The US Constitution separates church and state. If the PEUSA will not abide by that, at least he does not need to foist the raving bigot Warren on us.
Danny in Chicago does not need to worry about Obama being accused of being a Muslim after his silent support for Israel's attacks on Gaza.
No one in the rest of the world doubts Obama's 100% support for Israel and his continuation of Bush's policies.

confused   December 31st, 2008 11:11 am ET

Ed what in the world does the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals have to do with this. Will you stop beating your dog long enough to watch the inaugaration

Joe the Troll   December 31st, 2008 11:10 am ET

I've never found the choice of not watching the inauguration to be "untenable."

DC Texas   December 31st, 2008 11:09 am ET

We should do this because we have nothing else to do… LOL

Hey if the President wants pizza after the ceremony can I sue him for being pro italian?

Anna   December 31st, 2008 11:08 am ET

Religions are created to help people to live in civilized manner. There is nothing wrong in refering God and Religion, but fanatic religious people who force, bribe others to change religion should be banned. all christianity and Islam groups who spends millions of dollars on spreading religion should be banned.

chuck   December 31st, 2008 11:08 am ET

I'm always amazed at how an article like this about religious freedom or freedom from religion brings out all the nutjobs. Who really cares. America voted for PE Obama. Not the religious right, not the liberal left, but the middle of the road Americans who had enough of religion crammed down their throats for the past 8 years, and especially from the nitwit Palin, that they wanted it reigned in a little especially when it is used to take away rights of other Americans. The liberal left wants religion out of everything. As an Athiest I don't dislike "normal" christians or people of any faith. I just expect the same when it comes to my rights as an American citizen to not have to be prostelitized too. Happy New Year to all.

PA Law   December 31st, 2008 11:08 am ET

And as for liberals gone crazy, done put that tag on us. I'm a Liberal/Moderate Christian democrat. I believe in freedom of speech. That includes Pres-Elect Obama's rights as well as Mr. Newdow's. Mr. Obama's rights do not infringe on Mr. Newdow's. If he doesn't want to hear the invocation or benediction, he can turn off his TV. Fortunately, we don't have gov. run TV!

EW   December 31st, 2008 11:07 am ET

These atheists are out of control. I'm really trying to figure out why so many special interest groups who are in the minority think they can tell everyone else what to do.

Don't tell me how to live and I won't tell you how to live. Agreed?
All of these social 'issues' can be easily solved by those that don't agree with something not doing/using/partaking in said activity or using or buying said item. Government needs to stop trying to regulate social issues.

Once you vote Black   December 31st, 2008 11:06 am ET

This is a good chance for Obama to stand up for the Muslim Religion. He would use the Koran if nothing else to say that all religions including his own, are legit. It is not fair that he is forced to put down other religions in order to get a vote in this color blind nation of ours. Lets just say he is Muslim. Would that be so bad?

John in Ohio   December 31st, 2008 11:05 am ET

As someone who was a pagan in the very Christian military, deal with it. Realize that even though it doesn't mean anything to you, it means a lot to them. Shut up and let it ride. There's bigger and better battles to fight.

Jungle   December 31st, 2008 11:05 am ET

If atheists were true to their beliefs, they would not spend any money with "In God We Trust" written on it.

sandy   December 31st, 2008 11:04 am ET

This country was built so people could have religious freedom. I am so tired of this so called minority getting their way. One woman was able to take prayer out of the schools which for some kids was the only place God came into their lives. Now look at us. We, the majority of Americans believe in God or a higher being. So, would these Americans please stand up and now allow these few to ruin our country. Obama is a Christian man and I have no doubt God's name will be included in his oath of office. God Bless you President Obama and may he help guide you.

PA Law   December 31st, 2008 11:03 am ET

What a sad, sad man. He doesn't understand the nature of the law of our country. We have the right to practice whatever religion we choose. Freely! If Pres-Elect Obama wishes to have a Baptist minister give the invocation, so be it. He could also have a Rabbi, Priest, Monk or Candlestick maker. And his holding a bible does not infringe on my rights in any way. Ridiculous that this nonsense clogs up our legal system.

Brian From Fort Mill, SC   December 31st, 2008 11:03 am ET

The President has the same constitutional rights as every other American citizen. Not only is he allowed to believe in what he wants, he is also allowed to say it in public. He has freedom of religion AND freedom of speech.

There is nothing wrong with any American using a microphone to say that they believe in God, Allah, Jehovah, Bhudda, or no one.

If we elected a Muslim president, for instance, he should be allowed to say "So help me Allah". If he were an athiest, he should be allowed to simply "So help me."

Newdow cannot win this. If Obama said publicly, "I believe the world is flat", that's his prerogative. How does that offend people who believe the world is round?"

Erik in Real Pennsylvania   December 31st, 2008 11:02 am ET

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

This lawsuit is groundless, constitutionally. Congress has nothing to do with the things the petitioners are complaining about.

We need GOD!!!   December 31st, 2008 11:01 am ET

You know, I usually make stupid comments to rile the libs, but I can't agree more with the majority of these posts. This country has kicked God out of just about everything while we Christians just sit quietly and allow it to happen. And we wonder why we have so many problems facing us. I will say I did not vote for Obama, but I do respect him for his decision and will prayerfully support the next 4 years.

God Help us   December 31st, 2008 11:00 am ET

Well to all who do believe in God, we all know in his word that He says that some will not believe that he exist. So we need not worry about this individual but continue to pray for him. God has already claimed victory now all we have to do is go and make disciples of men and let God take care of the rest. Merry CHRISTmas and Happy new year.

Ariel Gonzalez   December 31st, 2008 11:00 am ET

Only in America, a God-reverent nation, can the minority sound louder.
God Bless our country!

HSNP   December 31st, 2008 11:00 am ET

Get over yourselves, atheists.

the idiot   December 31st, 2008 11:00 am ET

Liberalism is a religion for its followers.

rachel   December 31st, 2008 11:00 am ET

No one group should force it's belifs on another group, but last time I checked God wasn't a four letter word. Do we have to have two different inagurations to satisfy everyone, or how about if the word God offends someone there that much they just put their hands over their ears at that point and we move on.

Nate   December 31st, 2008 10:59 am ET

Praise Blessed Nothingness, Mr. Nedow. As soon as people believe in nothing but people we will see true inhumanity.

I also do not think that you can equate the sins of the past that racial discrimination in this country caused to the current 'plight' of the atheist. Just turn on network TV, MTV, or visit a public school. Only a fool would actually think that the atheists are losing.

Not believing in God is a Civil Right, but not a Civil mandate, Mr. Nedow.

GET REAL.   December 31st, 2008 10:58 am ET

I'm an agnostic who doesn't even care where a god exists or not (I could get into why, but I don't need the bitterness from the more hardcore religious people in here), and even I think this is a bit much. Newsom gives non-belivers and people like myself a bad name by throwing so many sour apples. He can't force people around like this.

Look: I respect everyone's beliefs, despite the fact that many of you will go against your religious upbringings to tell me how wrong I am in the most disrespectful way possible. And I agree with Newsom insofar that the president should not invoke religion in any aspect of his presidency. It's not a denial of god or a sinful omission, just a barrier between personal lives and the running of the country.

This is for all you people hating, bashing, trashing, scorning, and berating agnostics/atheists and then praising your god (or telling people that you'll "pray for them"): I feel sorry for you and your hypocracy. I don't hate you at all; I just pity you for choosing a religion and then not being able to stick to it. You embody everything that's wrong with the world right now, and you're no better than the fanatics we're fighting elsewhere.

GET REAL.   December 31st, 2008 10:58 am ET

I'm an agnostic who doesn't even care where a god exists or not (I could get into why, but I don't need the bitterness from the more hardcore religious people in here), and even I think this is a bit much. Newsom gives non-belivers and people like myself a bad name by throwing so many sour apples. He can't force people around like this.

Look: I respect everyone's beliefs, despite the fact that many of you will go against your religious upbringings to tell me how wrong I am in the most disrespectful way possible. And I agree with Newsom insofar that the president should not invoke religion in any aspect of his presidency. It's not a denial of god or a sinful omission, just a barrier between personal lives and the running of the country.

This is for all you people hating, bashing, trashing, scorning, and berating agnostics/atheists and then praising your god (or telling people that you'll "pray for them"): I feel sorry for you and your hypocracy. I don't hate you; I just pity you for choosing a religion and then not being able to stick to it. You embody everything that's wrong with the world right now, and you're no better than the fanatics we're fighting elsewhere.

Freedom of Religion   December 31st, 2008 10:57 am ET

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF.

If Obama is a devout Christian, and wants to hear the words of a minister before he takes the oath of office for the most burdensome job on earth, he is entitled to it.

I find it funny that these fringe atheists groups practice the same intolerance that they rail against in established religions.

REALLY??   December 31st, 2008 10:57 am ET

With everything that is going on in the world, this is what some folks are focusing on? REALLY!! "So help me GOD" if they actually win, they will need GOD…lol

So silly!! By the way HAPPY NEW YEARS everyone!! (Can I say that?)

r sisk, nevada   December 31st, 2008 10:56 am ET

Living in the USA means freedom from prosecution no matter what religious beliefs (or none) one may have. Obama is a Christian and chooses to have religious references as part of his inauguration.

Respect that!

Brian From Fort Mill, SC   December 31st, 2008 10:56 am ET

There's one fundamental problem with Newdow's argument.

On the one hand, if you talk about God, then you're expressing your religious beliefs, but nowhere are you forcing others to believe what you believe.

On the other hand, if you don't talk about God, simply because one person doesn't believe in God, then that person is in effect imposing his beliefs (or non-beliefs) on you.

Either way, someone is going to disagree with someone else. Newdow can't win this argument because simply mentioning the word "God" does not in any way coerce people into believing in God.

If the President said, "I want my MTV", does that mean that everyone should watch MTV? Of course not.

Sheryl   December 31st, 2008 10:55 am ET

The Majority of the World Believe in God, They just need to plug there ears if they don't care to Hear God's name. To each his own. Its bad enough they want IN GOD WE TRUST off our currency, I mean really, just don't read it if it bothers you so much. We let them Believe there isn't a GOD without being in their faces why can they not leave us to our Beliefs and not dictate what is or what isn't, can they pprove without a doubt they God doesn't exist ? No, so shut their Pie Holes UP !!!

Lucas   December 31st, 2008 10:54 am ET

God didn't help Bush………….

donna   December 31st, 2008 10:54 am ET

OH MY GOD !!!
If you choose to believe – fine, if you choose not to believe – fine,
but we all have the choice and that is why we live in a democratic society!!!

facts are facts   December 31st, 2008 10:54 am ET

The world just keeps turning, but nothing changes, as time shows religious beliefs or conflicting religions will forever keep the kettle boiling.

Good thing there aren't more important issues confronting humanity than religions or the lack of religion.

Deb in Vegas   December 31st, 2008 10:53 am ET

It's Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion! If having God (or any other religious figure) mentioned or displayed, then you have the Freedom to NOT listen or look. But don't try to force your non-belief on those who do. Part of Freedom OF Religion is to believe or NOT believe.

I bet these Athiests have no problem using US money (In God We Trust) to fund their efforts.

NY republican   December 31st, 2008 10:53 am ET

Just turn off the news coverage if you don't like it, "for Gods sake":)

BOO   December 31st, 2008 10:53 am ET

Praise God, Thank God, God bless American…..too bad for those who don't want to hear it.

Randy, San Francisco   December 31st, 2008 10:53 am ET

The reference to God and religion is not unconstitutional because it is not a formal endorsement or statutory requirement. Such references are exclusive rights belonging to the president elect. If the president elect was an atheist or non-Christian, he or she will have the right to exclude any religious references or make references to a non-Christian God. The bigger issue is when will an atheisit be elected president? i imagine that person will take the oath without the use of a Bible.

gt   December 31st, 2008 10:52 am ET

now thats change for sure , no reference to God…. the left has lost its mind……

Beth   December 31st, 2008 10:52 am ET

I agree with this lawsuit. Although I do believe in the existence of God, I see no need for God in government or politics. Religion and God in politics has not brought us together, it has divided us and caused many humanitarian problems. Our founding fathers had it right,

Carl   December 31st, 2008 10:50 am ET

George Carlin does a great 20 minute rant on the idea of using God on things like money and in the courtroom and politicians.

I suggest you research what he talks about… makes a ton of common sense.

db   December 31st, 2008 10:50 am ET

Throughout the campaign, Obama insisted that he was a moderate who would govern from the center. His supporters on the left winked and said, "sure, he's gotta say that to get elected, but once he's in he'll be our guy." Well, turns out he was telling the truth. And isn't it a pleasure to watch those lefties howl in disbelief and indignation?

joe smith   December 31st, 2008 10:50 am ET

apparently, the good doctor has not had the opportunity to read the constitution of the country he is trying to bring down, and dumb down by his most frivilious suit..

Lauren the Designer   December 31st, 2008 10:49 am ET

I'm agnostic and I think these people need to give it a rest.

Fredi   December 31st, 2008 10:48 am ET

The first amendment reads:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Banning religious expression at the inuaguration is therefore unconstitutional.

t   December 31st, 2008 10:47 am ET

To each it own, however most people believe in God and I hope
that they can understand you cant please all the people all the time.

I dont think no one is righteous but you try to do the righteous thing.
Even the atheists are God chilldren. But they are non believers and that is their choice. If you dont want the inauguration ceremonies to reference to religious turn off the TV walk away.

DOC   December 31st, 2008 10:47 am ET

I find it rather odd that incoming presidents who claim to be "christians" place their hands on the bible and swear.

The book instructs believers NOT to swear ANY oath but "let your yes be yes and your no be no".

"Swearing in" a president with his hand on the bible goes directly against what that very book instructs!

Strange days indeed…

David   December 31st, 2008 10:46 am ET

So I guess we should discontinue the "religious" practices that this country was founded upon because one man in a lawsuit says, "There can be no purpose for placing 'so help me God' in an oath or sponsoring prayers to God, other than promoting the particular point of view that God exists."?

What is he wins? Can I file a lawsuit that says, "There can be no purpose for not placing 'so help me God' in an oath or not sponsoring prayers to God, other than promoting the particular point of view that God does not exist."? Is that not his religious belief? That there is no God?

Let's be very careful when we start trying to remove "religious" things, things that remind us of our belief in God, from our American traditions. These are things that are based upon what the vast majority of Americans want and believe in. We cannot allow these things to be tampered with, especially when the sole intent is to replace them with traditions that are based upon a belief, a religion if you will, that there is no God.

Dave, Illinois   December 31st, 2008 10:45 am ET

Another example of the "tolerant" Left.

enlightened pagan   December 31st, 2008 10:45 am ET

The consititution only fobids Congress from making a law creatiing an "official" state religion. It does not forbid someone from taking an oath swearing "to god". THe people that wrote the first amendment are the same ones that wrote the oaths of office. Lighten up people, no one is making YOU swear anything to anyone!!!

Sue   December 31st, 2008 10:44 am ET

Dr Newdow et al: Our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. For Thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever, amen.

Who's he?   December 31st, 2008 10:44 am ET

God help us.

Ernestine   December 31st, 2008 10:43 am ET

GOD!!!! When will this guy get a life, please just leave CALI, Please!

Marc   December 31st, 2008 10:43 am ET

Mr. Newdow, who tried to use his own daughter in a lawsuit a few years back, should re-read the first amendment to the constitution. It does not bar the expression, or even recognition of faith. All it guarantees is the equal access to all faith groups.

Maryland Democrat   December 31st, 2008 10:42 am ET

I really respect that they agree that Obama has a right to invoke his beliefs as an individual, despite the fact that they are suing the other aspects of religious participation.

NEL E BELL   December 31st, 2008 10:42 am ET

WHO REALLY CARES, AS LONG AS THERE IS NO REFERENCE TO ANY GODS CHOOSEN ONE OR OBAMA IS MORE THAN A POLITICAN. WHAT WE NEED NOW IS HIS STANCE ON ISSUES NOT PRESENT OR I'LL GIVE AND ANSWER AFTER A LONG DELAY FOR WHICH WAY THE WIND IS BLOWING SO TO SPEAK. I HOPE HE IS SUCCESSFUL AND NOT JUST A BORROW SPEND AND TAX LIBERAL, THAT WE DON'T NEED OR WANT. LETS ALL SAY A PRAYER TO OURSELVES THAT THE NEXT 4YRS ARE BETTER THAN THE LAST 8YRS. THAT WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME ANYHOW. ;-)

Get Real!!   December 31st, 2008 10:42 am ET

Since we have freedom of religion in this country I say that the lawsuit is really just a silly ploy for attention. President-Elect Obama chose the pastor for the invocation as well as the bible for his oath of office. I say God Bless President-Elect Obama. There is a majority of people in this country who believe in God. It is unfortunate that the non-believers are trying to take God from the rest of us. Try as you may, but God will always have a place in the hearts of the people in this country.

Kaye -Jacksonville FL   December 31st, 2008 10:40 am ET

Honestly – I get it – I see their point – BUT, aren't there much bigger things to be concerned about these days? I really do think that some of this stuff is just folks trying to get their 15 minutes of fame. In a country as diverse as America, is there really any way at all to meet everyone's personal expectations? Isn't greater tolerance and acceptance the key to unity – instead of the ranting and litigation that seems to have overwhelmed our public discourse?

Mari   December 31st, 2008 10:39 am ET

People have a right to believe as they wish, so IF you are an atheist ….fine!

However DO NOT force your lack-of-beliefs on the MAJORITY of our Nation who DOES BELIEVE IN GOD!

In case the atheist do not know, our Constitution and Bill of Rights mentions GOD.

HOPE WON! BLESSED & HOPEFUL NEW YEAR TO ALL!

happy new year   December 31st, 2008 10:39 am ET

IN GOD WE TRUST, maybe the U.S has been leaving God out of too many things in the past few years, that could account for alot of our problems. PUT GOD BACK IN OUR SCHOOLS.

WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!   December 31st, 2008 10:38 am ET

THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHRISTIANS: THE YEARS TO COME WILL BEGIN TO CHANGE TO EVIL AS THIS WORLD STARTS TO COME TO AN END.

JUST DON'T EVER FORGET THEIR IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THIS IS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steaming in South Carolina   December 31st, 2008 10:38 am ET

We need a countersuit…now! Where are our God-fearing lawyers?

Briana the college student   December 31st, 2008 10:37 am ET

This is bull what happened to freedom of speech

BOO   December 31st, 2008 10:36 am ET

These miserable, disgusting people needs to get a life!

esther   December 31st, 2008 10:36 am ET

It does violate the constitution ban on church and state serparation, but somehow the extreme right still believes that theirs is the only religion in America, and therefore should be invoked every time we do anything! Don't they pray before Senate and House hearings? I have profound respect for the Christian religion but eventually American's need to come to terms with real America, it includes everyone! We are supposed to be free to worship not forced to!

Vincent   December 31st, 2008 10:36 am ET

I think these people need a life. If you don't believe in God, than don't bow your head when they go into prayer. Pres.- Elect Obama is a man of faith and if he chooses to invoke that into his Inauguration than should be allowed to . After all, he is the President, he makes the rules and not some extremist atheist.

ed   December 31st, 2008 10:35 am ET

What a complete tool! A bitter Atheist, I'm not surprised. First you want to screw with CHRISTMAS, now the Inauguration….Thankfully you are the minority in this country. They say the "empty can" rattles the most! Oh lord, you sound like those chodes at PETA!!!!

Florence Lince   December 31st, 2008 10:34 am ET

If this guy doesn't want to hear In God we trust or whatever the words are tell him to not listen to the ceremony. I don't like Rush Limbaugh so I don't listen to him – it's that simple people! But to start a lawsuit so that others who do believe in God can't hear about him is just plain stupid.

Noah   December 31st, 2008 10:31 am ET

Wow, Liberals have officially gone crazy. You guys are lunatics.

Go rant somewhere else..   December 31st, 2008 10:31 am ET

Geeze Louise.. enough of this atheist crap. Tradition , pomp and circumstance is all that remains of American History and like it or not, God is a huge part of the whole deal. Go away, don't listen or watch the inauguration..no one cares about your "feelings" or lack of spiritual beliefs. You have almost elimanated Christmas and Easter go rant somewhere else. Obama is a Christian man of course he will include God in his inauguration.. sheesh.. give us all a break!!

Franky   December 31st, 2008 10:29 am ET

My goodness…if it's not one group, is the other and if it's not the other then it's some other group and so forth. Geez, it does seem like people are not gonna have it their way, whether your're an anit-war or not…

Grow up for goodness sakes…

obama-mama   December 31st, 2008 10:26 am ET

Newdow and other plaintiffs say they want to watch the Inaugural either in person or on television. As atheists they contend having to watch a ceremony
with religious components will make them feel excluded and stigmatized.__________________Are these clowns kidding me. Don't watch it…This is part of the evil in the world. May God touch their Atheists hearts. These people apparently have nothing better to do. What a waste of time…..

Danny in Chicago   December 31st, 2008 10:22 am ET

If this happens, the crazy religious people will just think that not talking about God will prove that Obama is a muslim.

No one wins again……that's politics in our country for you.

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