January 12, 2009
Posted: January 12th, 2009 02:30 PM ET

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Franken's request to certify the election has been denied.
Franken's request to certify the election has been denied.

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) - Mark Ritchie, Minnesota’s Democratic secretary of state, said Monday he would not sign off on any document certifying Al Franken as the winner of the state’s closely-contested Senate race until all lawsuits related to the recount had been resolved.

"Minnesota law is very clear on when a certificate of election can be issued,” he wrote in a Monday statement. “Neither the governor nor I may sign a certificate of election in the U.S. Senate race until all election contests have reached a final determination. Even if the governor issues a certificate of election prior to the conclusion of the contest phase, I will not sign it."

Attorneys with Al Franken's Senate campaign had sent a letter to Ritchie and Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty Monday asking them to sign off on the official election certificate that names Franken winner.

(Updated with Pawlenty and Coleman camp responses after the jump)

Franken attorneys told reporters on a conference call the two parties have an obligation to sign it under federal and state law since the seven-day period has passed from the time the canvassing board certified the results of the recount, which found Franken ahead by 225 votes.

Franken attorney Marc Elias pointed to legal precedents, along with the constitutional requirement that the Senate “shall be composed of two senators from each state,” in denying the law allows the governor to abstain from signing the certificate if an election contest was filed during that window. A lawsuit was filed by Coleman the day after results were certified.

"We believe the law is clear," said Elias.

No word yet on whether or not Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would attempt to seat Franken if the certificate is signed. Elias said they have not yet tried to reach Reid.

Elias also said they would be filing a counterclaim and a motion to dimiss "large portions" of the Coleman petition that he said is "riddled with errors" and rehashes arguments that have been made and rejected.

Update: Pawlenty also turned down the Franken request, saying state law prohibited any action on his part until all legal battles surrounding the race had ended. “I have a duty to follow state law and our statutes are clear on this issue," he said in a statement. "I am prohibited from issuing a certificate of election until the election contest in the courts has been resolved.”

Coleman campaign manager Cullen Sheehan called the Franken team's effort an "underhanded attempt to blatantly ignore the will of Minnesotans and the laws of the state."

“Al Franken knows he can’t win this election contest based on the major inconsistencies and discrepancies that were part of the recount, and his attempted power play today is evidence of that," said Sheehan in a statement sent to reporters.

"He can’t and won’t be seated in a seat he didn’t win, so he is trying this underhanded attempt to blatantly ignore the will of Minnesotans and the laws of the state. The totals certified by the state canvassing board include double counted votes, inconsistencies regarding rejected absentee ballots, and inconsistent handling of newly discovered and missing ballots. These are serious issues that both the canvassing board and the Minnesota Supreme Court directed be handled in an election contest, and that will go forward as required.”

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Here's the provision cited by both camps:

204C.40 CERTIFICATES OF ELECTION.
Subdivision 2. Time of issuance; certain offices.

No certificate of election shall be issued until seven days after the canvassing board has declared the result of the election. In case of a contest, an election certificate shall not be issued until a court of proper jurisdiction has finally determined the contest. This subdivision shall not apply to candidates elected to the office of state senator or representative.

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Justin   January 12th, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Why are Republicans so stupid??

Jen, Philadelphia   January 12th, 2009 7:44 pm ET

Hey, Jeff W. – "I love that the Republicans just won't let this go. They're the ultimate sore losers!" – Are you kidding me? It's only been 2 months, the whiny Democrats have been holding on to George Bush stealing the election (even though their own mouthpiece – the media has debunked it) for 8 years!!! Who's the ultimate sore losers?

J   January 12th, 2009 7:22 pm ET

Count. Recount. Sue. Countersue. Colman quit your whining ya big loser and get a life. Dems won. Reps lost. Stop wasting taxpayer money now that you're out of office!

Charles Atlanta   January 12th, 2009 7:04 pm ET

Don't think Coleman has strong case anyway. Minnesota superior court has already rejected anymore recount, right? So eventually the people of Minnesota have to speak up. Either governor certifies it or he will be impeached.

Republican morons   January 12th, 2009 6:26 pm ET

Oh gee, what s shock...the repubs can't win so they file lawsuits, ripping off the state of Minnesota so that Franken can't be certified...then they bring up this ACORN stuff, acting so self-rightous about their own dirty tricks....Hey, you repubs inventing political cheating (look up Nixon, Watergate and 2000 Florida). Then you accuse the demos of the same crap you have done all these years...just more of the moronic talking points of these drug-addled talk shot hosts like Limberger and Hangunnity...hey repubs, get on board- the train is leaving you and Sarah Palin behind!

Larry   January 12th, 2009 6:26 pm ET

AL,

I love these Democrats,if it isn't votes they are trying to steal, it's money,so the can buy Senate seats.I really don't think it is funny .

Big Al C.   January 12th, 2009 6:22 pm ET

Franken has clearly won this seat and we need him seated yesterday. Coleman knew his chances of being elected as a Republican. When he is a Bush, Cheney man all the way. The last thing the people from Minnesota wants or needs is another Bush and Big oil senator. Franken knows how many more Amercian Soliders need to Die in Iraq. Coleman still has no number for our troops. Nothing else needs to be said.

lt   January 12th, 2009 6:09 pm ET

It's great to see the civility with which we treat each other. No wonder there is so much 'mud-slinging' in politics these days–it's apparently how people talk to each other now. I'm truly disappointed to see so few reasonable–or respectful–comments by you all.

Chris in FL   January 12th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

Funny how poeple walk differently with the shoe on the other foot. The same neo-con thugs that pushed for ballot disqualifications, rushed recounts and fast "certification" of a stolen presidential election a few years back now seem to have learned the error of their ways and want slow, deliberate process. Hypocrites! Too bad that Franken's brother isn't Minnesota's governor, then history could really repeat itself.

Andrew   January 12th, 2009 5:57 pm ET

You guys have to remember, the house, the senate, the presidency... any governorship isn't reserved for the elite, anyone can run, anyone who meets the requirements of the Constitution or their states Constitution... You shouldn't tout people, specifically those republicans out there who just love to tout Al Franken.

If I remember right there's an old president you guys praise. A man that probably against all odds did pretty darn good as a governor and as a president and is well respected on both sides of the aisle.

Think before you speak, and remember, politics is not limited to the elite..

Brian   January 12th, 2009 5:48 pm ET

It is important to remember that Republicans consider properly counting all ballots to be cheating.

America Held Hostage T-8 Days   January 12th, 2009 5:40 pm ET

Al Franken is a big fat stupid loser.

NYHillary   January 12th, 2009 5:39 pm ET

Coleman need to give it up. FoxNews said the people in Hollywood help with the recount with the money the endorse. Stupid FoxNews. Give up Coleman.

gt   January 12th, 2009 5:37 pm ET

hey why dont you get a burris and show up together ,,, ya a real dog and pony show,,,, must be cold out side

Rex   January 12th, 2009 5:36 pm ET

Illinois, Minnesota, some of the Executive branch nominees. I can remember when democrats won in my state of Kentucky using the votes of dead people.

You would think Democrats getting back in office would be a new day, but obviously it is not. And Schummer wants Franken seated. What a surprise.

Not a good beginning for Mr. Obama.

reg   January 12th, 2009 5:30 pm ET

Coleman is like a child, kicking and screaming over his lost toy. He lost. Get on with your life.

Clint, Kentucky   January 12th, 2009 5:28 pm ET

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Hey the republicans are only doing what they learned from the democrats. If at first you don't win out right sue untill you do.
Mike
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Uh, Mike? Guess you didn't pay attention last time, but it was Bush who brought the lawsuit back in 2000. It was Bush Vs Gore, remember? Not Gore Vs Bush. The recount was occurring on its own in Florida back in 2000 and then BUSH THE REPUBLICAN dragged the election into the courts. The difference between Florida and Minnesota is that Minnesota was allowed to finish the recount.

So Norm learned his legal wrangling from George W Bush, okay? Not anyone in the Democratic Party.

Dan B   January 12th, 2009 5:25 pm ET

Al Franken is a blathering idiot. Only in America can you see a raunchy, immoral comedian run for a public office such as U.S. Senate. First Jesse Ventura, and now Al Franken? C'mon Minnesota, would you elect Santa Claus to public office too? Better yet, how about Howard Stern next time? I think he and Al would do great things for our state and this country! (dripping with sarcasm) Norm may not be the answer, but Al definitely is not. I have been a Minnesotan my whole life. I am not sure I can claim that for much longer. This states discernment in politics is blind at best.

WIlly Brown   January 12th, 2009 5:18 pm ET

Counting more democrat votes that there are democrats voting in some counties. Yep Al you and Minnesota deserve each other if they allow this robbery take place.

Anti-Palin   January 12th, 2009 5:18 pm ET

I really admire the Minnesotan political process for the job that has been done by everyone. It seems that partisanship has been put aside for the law, and that needs to be noted. It's been a closely contested battle, however, it really hasn't gotten very ugly. No matter who wins, which it seems that Franken will probably win, both of these guys deserve pats on their backs.

R Edwards   January 12th, 2009 5:10 pm ET

Another idiot. No need to seat him. Truth is he lost. Count the rest of the ballots that were throwed out by democratic poll workers. Minnesota does not need him nor does the US Senate.

TexAnnie *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*   January 12th, 2009 5:10 pm ET

So Congress can seat that nimrod Burris from Illinois who may well have "bought" his Senate seat, but we can't seat the guy from Minnesota who actually WON his seat in a real election???? Amazing.

bj, Texas   January 12th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

Stuart Smally is a moron. Take that to the bank.

melvin   January 12th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

the gop dont have a prayer of winning anything,this is the begginning of the liberal movement,the minority vote is so large right now the gop knows this in they are afraid that the democrats is going to start governing to the far left,in they cant stop it because they dont have the numbers anymore,thats why so many republicans refuse to run in 2010 because they know the party is over for the republicans.

Shiloh   January 12th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

All politicians lie! Study what they do and not what they say.

Like Bush, He ran the state of Texas and all of the companys he ran to the ground, so did he do to the nation!

Just hope and if you pray, then do so, if you send positive karma, then do so. This next president will be better and hopefully what we need to fix and make right the wrong that has been done.

rodlang   January 12th, 2009 4:51 pm ET

First a wrestler as governor and now a not so funny comic as senator. What's in the drinking water in MInnesota?

Chad, Wisco   January 12th, 2009 4:49 pm ET

Minnesota election or BCS Bowls??? You choose which is more messed up. Go ahead, the results might suprise you.

Jim   January 12th, 2009 4:46 pm ET

Coleman just needs to go away. Its over.

fred   January 12th, 2009 4:45 pm ET

No Meh, Republicans don't like Al because he is stupid. He is a comedian and a talk show host. It would be like Sean Hannity or Oprah running for senate.

Gary   January 12th, 2009 4:44 pm ET

I hope Coleman gets just because of the arrogant statement of Harry Reid who said, "Norm Coleman will never serve in the Senate again!". Who is Reid to rule on the future votes of Minnesotans?

These guys in power think the universe revolves around them and their wishes.

Matt from St. Louis   January 12th, 2009 4:43 pm ET

one down 49 left to go

Chris   January 12th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

To Alan from PA:

Oh really? I wasn't aware that you knew Nancy Peloci or Al Franken well enough to make such a judgement. Who the hell are you to think that you know the status of their IQ's? Please, get over yourself before you hurt someone.

alvino   January 12th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

Pawlenty is as crooked as Normy, but he will eventually have to let Big Al go to Washington.

Chris B.   January 12th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

I am a democrat and didn't vote for Franken!
I never vote the party line as I research the candidates first.

Peter   January 12th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

This is beyond stupid, but quite clever. We all know that Franken has won, but if it doesnt drag on Coleman will still have a reputation and try to pull Franken down. We need Franken to be popular and Coleman to go down in flames

Peter (CA)   January 12th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

richard rohde-no sign in your posts that you are a racist.

But there are som pretty magical signs in there.

Jackie in Dallas   January 12th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

OK, so it is OK for Coleman to ask for Franken to concede the election on November 4th, even knowing that there would be a mandatory recount, but it is NOT OK for Franken to ask to be certified? I'm not saying he should be, if it is counter to state laws, but why can't he ASK? He isn't demanding, he is asking, and his lawyer has some valid points. Now that he has been denied, he should patiently wait until this suit by Coleman is resolved. I'm not from Minnesota, but I actually admire the fact that they have policies and procedures in place to deal with this type of situation. Now, let them get on with the legal stuff and resolve the issue so that the state will be represented appropriately in the Senate. Would be nice if it were before the Inauguration so that whoever becomes the Senator will be in place in time to work with the rest of the Congress to help President Elect Obama get on with HIS job.

SMK   January 12th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

If I were Norm, I'd fight this too. He's been cheated an Election Night win by another crooked Democrat. They need to have another recount and verify every single ballot that, that person is living or dead, or even voted for that matter. Who cares if it takes a year to figure out. The Dem's clearly cheated to give Al the win. Explain to me how you can have more ballots cast then there are registered people in so many counties?

Dem's keep claiming Repub's are corrupt. I guess they keep forgetting to look in the mirror.

stan   January 12th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

Do people mentioning ACORN even know what ACORN is and all that they do? John McCain does and salutes them. They spend more time providing free tax preparation for low income people than on voter registration. And is it wrong to try to register the 50,000,000 or so ELIGIBLE voters who are not registered?

Matt, Chico, CA   January 12th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

"Meh" if you really think that Franken speaks the truth then do us a favor and go back inside and stay there

Rich   January 12th, 2009 4:07 pm ET

I wish Norm Coleman would give up and stop trying to deny Minnesota its Senator. You know, it is really bad when the INCUMBANT senator gets ONLY 42 percent of the vote–if Minnesotans thought you should be reelected Norm, dontcha think they would have given you more of their votes!

liz   January 12th, 2009 4:05 pm ET

The reason the police have suspected drunk drivers try and say the ABCs backwards as a sobriety test instead of counting is that the technique was field tested in Minnesota and they found that, even sober, residents had trouble, +25, -2, 225, 50, 6, +7, -3, 480....

Kevin in Ohio   January 12th, 2009 4:01 pm ET

He is too eager to usurp the seat. God help America for electing this idiot.

tess   January 12th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

as a republican it would be funny to see franken, hillary(with bill in the background of course) burris (with the spector of blago in the background) and barney frank and charlie rangel running the country. as an american first it scares the living hell out of me!

Greg Pottstown, Pa.   January 12th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

ALAN FROM PA. January 12th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

I HATE TO SAY IT BUT AL FRANKEN IS A BIGGER IDIOT THAN NANCY PELOSI!!!!!
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I don't know if i want to agree with you or not. Bigger idiot than pelosi, that is a hard show to top.

Penny from MN   January 12th, 2009 3:56 pm ET

I am very proud of Al Franken's very quiet actions in this matter. Given his past, he could have easily done another SNL-type circus act on this (think Roland Burris) but has not. Coleman, on the other hand, is a guy who has some serious ego issues – the "it's all about me" thing. I am one of the people of Minnesota who is being affected by this legal mess. Take it on the chin and let Minnesota have full respresentation.

As far as the jokes regarding who Minnesota votes for – very tacky. At least we have the choice of a third party...

Houff   January 12th, 2009 3:55 pm ET

Quite a few differences from the 2000 situation. In Florida, Bush started, and remained (even in media conducted recounts many weeks later) ahead, albeit by a small margin. In this case Coleman started out ahead and the tally changed to favor Franken (I cannot say the re-count was tainted, and will leave that issue for others.)

Franken at least asked for a state-wide recount. Gore only wanted a recount in democrat-controlled counties (who, by the way were responsible for the butterfly ballot that created so much apparent confusion– the GOP had no hand in that).

Not sure how Franken came down on military absentee ballots, while Gore fought those in Florida.

Coleman has filed one action to contest the count. As I recall, Gore launched a large number of lawsuits, every one of which he lost at the trial court level, even courts with Democrat judges.

In both Florida and Minnesota, however, I think it is clear that the margin of victory was smaller than the margin of error. We have to find a cure for that...

Melissa B ~ California   January 12th, 2009 3:54 pm ET

The republican / independent sore losers are showing their true colors once again– they'll make up anything to discredit the opposition's candidacy or the final ballot count. This is why they continue to lose elections and voters–most of America is sick of the distortions and innuendos. If you don't have a legitimate gripe, you'll just spread the lastest wild rumors, hoping it will further your conservative agenda. It's time to quit with the gossip politics and get real!

CM   January 12th, 2009 3:53 pm ET

Regardless of how this ends up, state law is clear. Whatever their reasons are, the state law that Al has to follow is "In case of a contest, an election certificate shall not be issued until a court of proper jurisdiction has finally determined the contest." Since the election is still in contest by lawsuits and court cases, the certificate can NOT be issued without breaking state law. Yes, it could be some underhanded attempt to be a power-tripping politician, but it could also just be that he's trying to follow state law as he is supposed to.

On another note, what the h*** does it matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat? Both sides complain just as much! Republicans complain that they aren't letting the election become finalized, while Democrats complain that the election isn't clear-cut and should be tested. Both sides are complaining about nothing, since it's not going to be solved any quicker by people arguing and whining. It's state affairs, and will be solved by state-based systems, not a flame war on some forum or blog.

No Incumbents 2010   January 12th, 2009 3:52 pm ET

Al Franken, the only Senator to get more votes from people who did not actually vote.

MD   January 12th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Dear Alan from PA:

No Way. Nancy's got him beat by a mile.

Joe Green   January 12th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Why is Franken trying to break the law?

Does he think that if he can illegally certify the election, get sworn in, he'd stll be Senator, even if the uncounted ballots later on prove him to have lost the election.

Count all the votes. Resolve all the issues. Let the process continue until it is resolved in an orderly manner.

There is nothing to be gained by rushing to judgement on this.

MD   January 12th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Don't worry Al. Give ACORN a call and tell them you need more money to buy politicians. Worked so far....

Andy   January 12th, 2009 3:48 pm ET

I love Blagojevich! He is such a good man and role model. Thank you Illinios for showing such wisdom with your selections of Government officials.

PS- I got the odds 2-1 that this country rebels against the tyrannical garbage that has been "elected" , and guys like Blago help show that the time is coming. We just need a complete collapse economically.....that should be do-able.....

TCM   January 12th, 2009 3:47 pm ET

Just keep counting and recounting until ACORN steals enough votes out of the kitty....dat's da way we's did it fo Obammee

Patrick - Indianapolis   January 12th, 2009 3:47 pm ET

Comedian/Actor's are idiots with no business in politics? Remember that senile old fella in 80s who happened to be the President? Yeah...

At least Al knows what year it is and to put his boxers on BEFORE the pants...

Mike   January 12th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

I curious as to why my vote for Coleman wasn't counted twice? It seems the only double counted votes were in Franken's favor.
What a crock this election was.
And they want us to show up for the polls with this kind of crap going on?
I think I'll save gas and stay home next time since my vote doesn't seem to count anyway.
Special interests and back door dealing end up overriding the will of the people.
And SOS Ritchie's refusal to sign is only grandstanding and more Dem party "Gee look at how honest I am" politics.

Snake eyes   January 12th, 2009 3:44 pm ET

SORE LOSERS!!!

legal in nc   January 12th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

Typical hypocrisy of the demotwits, trying to steal something they can't rightly earn.

Jasper   January 12th, 2009 3:42 pm ET

That's OK Richard, we all know that you repukes aren't too swift. You still can't figure out the difference between VOTER REGISTRATION fraud and VOTING fraud. Too many big words would have to be used. There was no VOTING fraud in the election. Have Mrs. Robinson in the kindergarten room explain it to you.

Jason in New Mexico   January 12th, 2009 3:39 pm ET

Im going to laugh in all your faces when Al wins this recount! HAHAHA the GOP got slaughtered this election, can't wait till 2010 so it can continue!!!

TomD   January 12th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

Folks, ACORN was not voter fraud. Please find the time to read facts. Registration is NOT VOTING and ACORN did not stuff ballot boxes. Come on....educate yourselves. Or did Mickey Mouse really show up to vote at your polls?

I think the system will work here. NOT like it did in the State Jeb Bush ran that ultimately went to this brother – Florida. Lest we all forget.

Campy   January 12th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

I would rather be Franken than Coleman. I'd say Coleman's chances of winning are about 5% or less. Time to hang it up, Norm.

chris@stl   January 12th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

Mark Ritchie ... there's a good human being. Don't care what party he belong to ....

Givemebackthelast8years   January 12th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

Too bad this didn't happen in 2000 in Florida. Al Gore should have kept fighting... Winning the popular vote and loosing the election… Only Republicans can complain about irregularities with a straight face after stealing two elections and mugging the country.

james in s.c.   January 12th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

why do rethuglicans likes to keep crooks? when is the FBI going to charge Coleman for corruption charge he has agaist him? and if the state council has Franken a winner Coleman and rethug governor Pawlenty will lose in the supreme court battle. so its best for Franken to sit back and let all this lawsuit get thrown out.

peace

cat   January 12th, 2009 3:33 pm ET

Let's face it the real comedian here is the Republican Party.
Do they really thing we are going to give them 4 more years to dig the hole deeper.

Barack wins and America loses   January 12th, 2009 3:32 pm ET

Good news, the crook couldn't steal the election yet. Just wait till the reality of the voter fraud and biasness in counts is revealed and this whacko is left eating crow.

Chris   January 12th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

Only in Minnesota would a clown like Franken in office. The cold weather must freeze brains up there.

Debby   January 12th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

Good , Franken is suck a loser.

Walt   January 12th, 2009 3:29 pm ET

Mmmmm. Who was it who denounced Americans as "a nation of whiners?"
Oh, right. That was a Republican, wasn't it? Never mind... guess that label is "no longer operative."

rob   January 12th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

To LIBS BE DOPES Extra ballots in your car? For what, toilet paper? That's what the rePUBElicans have done to our election system.

jaye   January 12th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

.....and the band played on.......

Mickie   January 12th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

Maybe Minnesota should just go without a senator until the next election since they can't seem to decide who really wins and the count never ends.

pammy   January 12th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

I agree with Bob the observer. Strange how so many votes can be found when you need them. Freaken Al Freaken is a no good, criminal who fooled all the people from Minn. into voting for him but lost in the first place. So what does he do, he manufactures votes from wherever he can get them and gets away with it. He doesn not deserve to win. Dead people don't vote people!!!!!!!!! How can you people be so stupid in Minn. If the votes weren't there in the first place, strange how they showed up later.

the idiot   January 12th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

JeffW@Dumocrats cried for 8 years. Republicans haven't even had 60 days yet. And then had to get George Soros, the unions and ACORN to trash this country to get their candidate elected.

Michael   January 12th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

I seem to remember Katherine Harris chomping at the bit to certify the FL results. Kudos to the MN Secretary of State. Franken will eventually be seated.

Greg Pottstown, Pa.   January 12th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

Fact ,more votes were counted than people registered to vote. Fact, the areas with more votes than people are all Franken areas. Fact, ballots that were not counted were over overwhelmingly for Colman. Fact, Colman won the first count. Fact, new ballots were found in the car of a Franken supporter.
Colman has a good chance of havening the other votes counted. If you dems think this election is not totally dishonest then this country will never have elections that go uncontested.
Do any of you dems think it is a problem if votes are counted more than once?Answer the question. It is a fact that more votes were counted than votes cast. So is it ok for a dem vote to count as two votes. Answer the question?

jd   January 12th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

Trying to jump the gun there are we? I smell something fishy here don't you?

everything needs to CHANGE!   January 12th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

you are all a bunch of idiots for arguing with each other over this crap!

sick n tired   January 12th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

All I can say is people from Minnesota must be proud! (end sarcasm)

HouseDiva   January 12th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

what a mess...

Matt   January 12th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

@ Richard Rohde

Tim doesn't have to "make you out" as a bigot...you GOPers do just fine with that all on your own....that's a Republican bigot, racist, neocon trick.

Jim   January 12th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

I am a MN resident and I fully expect Coleman to drag this threw the courts for years if he has to. If the MN Domestic Sec. of State won't sign until all court procedings are finished then I suspect we won't have 2 senators until the next election for the seat.

Thanks, Norm. Way to but your interests ahead of the MN public.

bsmith171   January 12th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

franken is a thug.
franken and coleman are both carpetbaggers from NY!
what is wrong with minnesota?

Meh   January 12th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

Republicans don't like Al b/c they're scared of him...he speaks the truth and isn't afraid to do so!

Nancy Pelosi   January 12th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

They like me. They really like me.

Matt   January 12th, 2009 2:44 pm ET

And another thing: those of you GOPers trying to make this all out to be a big conspiracy shoudl check yourselves. The Sec of State, who is a Dem, is showing prudent restraint by not trying to certify Franken before it would be appropriate to do so. Yet again, just like the judge who served on the ballot review panel recusing himself from selecting the 3 judges to hear Coleman's case, we have people trying to make this as fair as possible. So yeah, stuff the whining.

Lisa V   January 12th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

I’m from Minnesota, and even though I wasn’t too keen on Al, I voted for him anyway. Now, seeing how he is handling all of this (and how well some others in the same situation are not), I am starting to really like him now. He is quietly pushing his case, which he should. I say: GO AL! Reach your GOAL. (Even though I just read at the local paper they denied your request.)

Sen. Franken   January 12th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

Then take Pawlenty and the Secretary to court for violating federal law and the U. S. Constitution. Fed law supercedes MN state law.

Vigla   January 12th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

JOE KILOZ,

Sure, dirty tricks... Is that all you Republicans have to say? I guess that must be it, then!

Boy, some people are just plain out of their mind...

Proud American   January 12th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Here comes the republican steal.

ALAN FROM PA.   January 12th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

I HATE TO SAY IT BUT AL FRANKEN IS A BIGGER IDIOT THAN NANCY PELOSI!!!!!

richard rohde   January 12th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

Tim, no problems with the other groups, at least they are honest. Don't try to make me out as a racist bigot, thats a democrat, union ACORN trick.

Libs be dopes   January 12th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

Hold on a sec, I may have some ballots in my car.....

Lisa M   January 12th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Does that mean they don't get a Senator from Minnesota? Bet the voters like that.

Anonymous   January 12th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

What I can't believe is that the people of that state voted for the incompetant bum to begin with. Says much about that state and th e people voting! Much like the nonpaying taxpayers, the jobless, the students, and the just plain ignorant that voted Nobama in. Just wait – your turn is coming. Then you will all realize what a huge mistake you make. Nobama is NOT going to just give you money and pay your bills!!

tmess   January 12th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

The other relevant provisions are 2 U.S.C. 1, 1a, and 1b. 2 USC 1 says that the Senator is elected for a term beginning January 3rd. 2 USC 1a and 1b require the Governor and Secretary of State to certify the winner of the election.

It is now after January 3rd and the Senate needs to have certified to it who is entitled to hold that seat by virtue of the current election results.

Allen   January 12th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

It's amazing how many posters are so ill-informed about the facts. It's sad to see the ignorance of so many voters.

ga.   January 12th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

worse than grammer school kids fighting on the play ground, pitiful just pitiful.

Matt   January 12th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

If Franken is smart he'll show tact by not pushing this particular issue and will wait for the Sec of State to sign after he wins the court battle. If he wants to behave like a GOPer, he'll throw a tantrum.

@ Jean2

This is nothing like the Burris situation. Burris was validly APPOINTED by a sitting Governor and the Sec of State signing or not signing the certificate did not affect the validity of the APPOINTMENT. Here, we have a situation that involves a contested ELECTION and until a Court of law decides one way or the other, the outcome technically remains uncertain.

Malcolm A. Cline   January 12th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

My whole take on this "too close to call" election in Minnesota is that it is obvious that neither man can claim to adequately represent his state. It is my opinion that in cases where a general election produces two nominees that are separated by less than a half percent of the votes cast, both nominees be prevented from taking office and a new election be held with new representatives from each party.

The expense and delay of a new election can certainly be no worse than the situation we currently have in Minnesota and should easily produce a winner that has more support from the electorate. No doubt this would take a constitutional amendment to implement, but would make more sense than the current situation where no matter who wins, half the state will be unhappy.

bill   January 12th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

It is so bad that Norm "he loser" Coleman has placed his needs before those of the State of Minnesota. The loser doesn't care that Minnesota may need another senator during the stimulus debate. We all know the infrastructure of Minnesota is solid

Scott the Independent   January 12th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

There are two ways to do this – one have the state sec certify Franken or two, speed up the investigation, indictment and prosecution of Colemen. I vote for the latter.

Ken   January 12th, 2009 2:17 pm ET

@Mike: Yeh right. Is that the view when your head gets lodged up your nether regions? With that view, objects fall up, the english language is written right-to-left, and G. Bush was a wonderful president. It must be nice to a have such a hyper-dogmatic view of the world that you feel no personnal responsiblity for having to interface with the real world.

JOE KILOZ   January 12th, 2009 2:17 pm ET

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WhoCares?   January 12th, 2009 2:14 pm ET

Let's just wait until all the legal stuff is over.

Dieter Zerressen, Denver, CO   January 12th, 2009 2:12 pm ET

Al Gore won Florida, Al Gore won the popular vote. The Dems were not going to let the Republicans steal another one. This is how it's going to be from now on: every vote is going to be counted (if possible) and the true winner will be declared no matter how long it takes.

Richard Larson   January 12th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

The law appears to be quite clear on the subject and both officials are correct in their responses. The fact that Coleman's petition is full of issues that already have been adjudicated is immaterial. The superior court must make a finding supporting Frankin for him to win. I expect that any decision will be appealed into the Federal Appellate Courts regardless of who is declared winner. Coleman seems to be intent upon stealing this election from Frankin. I hope the court decides the issue with prejudice thereby denying Coleman the opportunity to appeal.

New Yorker   January 12th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

So Al Franken's attorneys wanted to do something illegal? Imagine that!

dittohead with forty names   January 12th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

@ Richard.Alabama lost its state idiot please call home now.

Ann   January 12th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

Funny how democrats can use the rules to keep out Burris but then get mad when the Republicans use the rules to keep out Franken! I thought Democrats were the ones who complained about Bush following the law only when it was convenient, and now want to do the same thing? Does "hypocritical" ring a bell here?

f kim   January 12th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Al is very very smart with an IQ higher than most senators combined..but thats why the repubs don't want him office ... bush is more there speed..Al actually leans towards the right

Rob   January 12th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

Al needs either an old rabbi or washed-up comedian (moreso than he is) to appear at his press conference and throw his equivalent of the race card.

Of course just the fact that anyone is seriously considering seating this loser just shows how screwed this country really is.

Marie banderas   January 12th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

In 2012, wont matter anyways, only thing that WILL matter, is GOD, and if your on side of evil or good !

clifford   January 12th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

Franken looks like a Dr.Suess character !!

Karen-Phoenix   January 12th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

Seat Franken. Let Coleman go! This is almost getting rediculous.

chuck   January 12th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

FINALLY THERE'S A WINNER.

Kat   January 12th, 2009 1:53 pm ET

Who care about Franken? He surely isn't qualified to serve the position. Frankenstein is an utter and complete joke, but his state picked him. Way to go!

Greed is not good   January 12th, 2009 1:53 pm ET

They should just do a coin toss

77 Gamblers   January 12th, 2009 1:50 pm ET

Richard, gotta love fuzzy math and people, let Minnesota put another clown in Congress, like who's gonna notice!

Mike   January 12th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

Hey the republicans are only doing what they learned from the democrats. If at first you don't win out right sue untill you do.

tom   January 12th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

minnesotan here and if the republicans find a way to steal this from franken, they willbe voted out in droves for the next 10 election. we have enough of the republicans in this nation.

Jean2   January 12th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

If Burris iis seated by the same reasoning Franken should be seated.

Bob the Observer   January 12th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

You can fix this Al. Just find 500 more dead people to vote for you and the majority will be so large no one can deny you your position. You might be able to add to lying, cheating, and stealing along the way.

Alex   January 12th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

Any respect that I have gained for the state of Minnesota and their dilligence and seemingly fair recount process has been MORE THAN lost by the fact that they have elected a comedian, extrodinarily liberal, non-expirenced man to the United States Senate.

It is refreshing to see good people in politics who work hard to protect the fairness of teh process more than just the results (I live in Illinois).

Randall from FL   January 12th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

Whew!

Minnesota   January 12th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

Are you taking notes Florida?? This is how a democracy is supposed to work. Its messy but we in Minnesota make sure that all votes are counted and all lawsuits settled before we decide who won.

jake   January 12th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

man oh man, reminds you of good ol' 2000. sucks to have the tables turned repulicans, huh?

Norm   January 12th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

Even though I have no hope of reversing the will of the people of Minnesota I will attempt to drag this out for a year so those filthy Democrats will have one less vote inthe Senate. I understand that this will me look like an a#shat but I feel it is the right thing to do for my wingnut friends.

Leo   January 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Norm Coleman is a poor loser. You right-wingers are the biggest hypocrites. No wonder your party and philosphies have become obsolete.

Laverne   January 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Okay Harry Reid, what's your next move? I know you wouldn't dare seat Franken without a signature, well that would be unheard of!

Tim   January 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

"Sounds like a union sponsored ACORN job to me."

richard rohde

Ding ding ding! Congratulations Richard, you managed to scape goat two favorite Republican targets in a single post! What a shame though, you were so close to the trifecta. If only you could have mentioned homosexuals or illegal immigrants. Better luck next time.

President   January 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Franken would make a better commander-in-chief than Obama.

Dan, TX   January 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

It will all be settled in a few more weeks, patience people. Whoever is the winner it will be fair and square. A close election for sure.

Maggie   January 12th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

Oh, good grief! They counted, counted again, recounted, re-recounted, re-re-recounted - would someone declare a winner already?

Mobius   January 12th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

Amazing they can't accomplish a simple thing like counting votes. No matter how complex the media and machine may portray it, all they have to do is COUNT. I know some 4 year olds who'd be done by now.

david Armendale, SF, CA   January 12th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

Coleman said when he was ahead that if he were trailing like Franken was, that he would bow out. Waiting for Coleman to be a man of his word.

Gorbashov - Long Beach, Ca.   January 12th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

Only weeks after November 2000 Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnel advised then Vice President Al Gore to be a "statesman" and concede the election. Now with the shoe on the other foot he, and his merry band of Republican hypocrits are advsing Coleman to take every measure he can to fight this to the end.

A yes, sore-loser Republican hypocrisy at it's most usual!

Gee, i wonder why they are an all-white regional monority political party?

Not!

Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia   January 12th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

If you stop and think, going from Saturday Night Live to Congress---well there isn't much difference.

Dee   January 12th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

I hope for the sake of Minnesota's reputation that Franken does NOT win this thing.

mike   January 12th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

I love how ethical or as I like to refer to : gutless the democrats are. If this was a Republican he would already be in the senate.

john from sandiego   January 12th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

the old saying 'you got to hit bottom before you can climb up'...Al Freakin is the bottom for the U.S. Democratic Senate and America....

richard rohde   January 12th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

Kinda like it should be. How do you get 177 more votes in Ramsey County then there are registered voters? Sounds like a union sponsored ACORN job to me.

Concerned Democrat.   January 12th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

His wife's look says it all.......

Jeff W.   January 12th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

I love that the Republicans just won't let this go. They're the ultimate sore losers!

Ula Nejad Sacramento, Ca   January 12th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

more democrat stupidity. like comedians they take things less seriously.

boered1   January 12th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

so what the loser is saying is that as long as he is not declared the winner he will keep a lawsuit pending thereby pregventing the state from having the right number of representatives.. basically if he doesn't get his way no one can play! Worse than pay to play this is no play unless I get my way!

idiots

Al Frankenstein   January 12th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

I shall not be denied.

Joe M   January 12th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

Not so fast Al! The jokes on you!

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