January 15, 2009
Posted: January 15th, 2009 11:30 AM ET
President-elect Obama's pick for attorney general said Thursday that the incoming administration will close the Gitmo detention facility.
President-elect Obama's pick for attorney general said Thursday that the incoming administration will close the Gitmo detention facility.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Attorney General designate Eric Holder said Thursday that the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba will be closed after President-elect Obama takes office, but not as soon as the administration would like.

Watch: Gitmo will be closed, says Holder

The physical act of closing the facility isn't a problem, noted Holder. The more pressing question, he said, is the fate of the roughly 250 inmates currently being held at Guantanamo Bay.

Some of the inmates, Holder said, can be sent to other countries, while others can be prosecuted.

A third group of inmates, Holder indicated, can't be tried "for a variety of reasons" but also can't be released because they are too dangerous.

For that reason, the Obama administration won't be able to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility "as soon as we'd like."

Holder also pledged to only support interrogation techniques that are "consistent with who we are as Americans" and don't "serve as recruiting tools for the enemy." He promised that, if confirmed, the Justice Department would approve of techniques that don't violate "current treaty obligations... but (are)effective."

He cited the claims of military officials who have said that certain so-called "enhanced (interrogation) techniques" don't always produce reliable intelligence.

Earlier in his testimony, Holder said "waterboarding is torture" and a violation of the Geneva Conventions. Justice Department officials have said in the past that the technique was used but is no longer in use.

Holder earlier said he "wouldn't hesitate to resign" if he couldn't properly do his job as "the people's lawyer."

In a lighter moment, Holder said, in response to a question from Wisconsin Sen. Herb Kohl, that he could probably compete with Obama in a basketball game if given enough time "to get back in shape. Holder said he "has a New York City game."

Holder also said, however, that it probably wouldn't be wise to defeat the president-elect.

Obama is known to enjoy playing basketball.

Filed under: Eric Holder • Obama transition


Outraged Democrat   January 15th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

Just behead them, libs don't seem to mind that.

WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!   January 15th, 2009 3:52 pm ET

OBAMA-MAMA,

AFTER HUISSAIN OBAMA GETS DONE WITH THIS COUNTRY YOU ARE GOING TO WISH YOU LIVED IN RUSSIA TOO!!!!!!!!!

STFU   January 15th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Close the concentration camp or wear swatikas.

WELCOME TO THE OBAMA SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!   January 15th, 2009 3:50 pm ET

I BET OBAMA HAS SOME CLOSE FRIENDS BEING HELD!!!!!!!

I WISH IS KNEW THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JJ12345   January 15th, 2009 3:50 pm ET

obama-mama January 15th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

I say drop them off in Alaska so Sarah Palin can give them a ride over to Russia
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Better yet, drop them off in Chicago

vet   January 15th, 2009 3:39 pm ET

they don't fall under the constitution. They are not citizens. They are the enemy. Why can't you see that. Can't wait till David Petraeus gets elected in 2012. VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

arc, Lugano CH   January 15th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

Libs be dopes January 15th, 2009 2:19 pm ET
Obama will take care of his buds, no problem.
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You could never hope to understand the entire picture. You're a bloody idiot; truly the intellectual equivalent of raw sewage.

No Incumbents 2010   January 15th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

This is exactly what some people were talking about including Joe Biden, the experience issue. It seems Obama is learning as he goes. "I'm going to withdraw troops by this date!" wait can't do it by then because______. "I'm going to close Guatanimo!" wait can't do it because ________. Darn it I wish there was some kind of manual, like Presidency for Dummies.

obama-mama   January 15th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

I say drop them off in Alaska so Sarah Palin can give them a ride over to Russia

g.j man   January 15th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

If torture keeps my family safe from american hating persons trying to destroy us hell yes. If you ask me enough hasnt been done. Clinton killed the intelligence agency so things had to be done quick to protect this country.
Bush didnt listen to whiny liberals and because of that there has not been another attack here in 7 years...

Wow you libs think you can hug and kiss and talk to persons into changing.Guess what you cant. And if you think waterboarding is torture what are you going to do tickle the information out of them.

They are not americans and deserve no rights under the constitution.

As long as my family is safe I could care less what happens to sub humans.

I am sad to think that I will be back on here saying I told you so to all you arse kissing libs.. I guess you think israel should just take the rockets without trying to protect their citizens too.

You got a corrupt and spineless congress and president...

Too bad the wake up call to you will hurt all americans.

annie the Democrat   January 15th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

Where are they going to be moved to?

Are they turning them back to Iraq where they will either be executed or return to their terrorist activities?

Matt   January 15th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

@ Tim

Wrong. First, accountability means you get punished for what you did wrong. We can't prove these people did anything wrong...you know, except for being brown and muslim and scaring GOPers. Second, one would think we'd moved past Hamurabi's Code when Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek, but hey, the Bible is only there for GOPers to argue with at their convenience, right? Third, again, there is no proof that many of these people being held have done ANYTHING, so considering them subhuman before anything is proven, before they've been tried and convicted, and holding them without access to representation or a day in court pretty much makes you subhuman.

Anonymous   January 15th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

Amen maybe now we can fullfill the United States constitution!

SEMPER FI   January 15th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

Closing the prison down would be like letting hundreds of Rabid Pit bulls out into the street. The prisoners are not doing time for stealing candy they are TERRIOST!!! They killed or been apart of mangling our fathers, brothers and sisters fighting for our freedom and safety at home an abroad. Criminals wont ever change as we have noticed with our own justice system. Such as re incarcerating repeat offenders after they were only giving another chance to take yet another love ones life. We can avoid such things if only we grew a SET and stopping gripping about what we should of done after we caused the problem such as closing the prison down. “ Grab a Rope”

worriedmom   January 15th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

Send the "terroists" to all the Liberals home and let them take care of them. sure they will give them tea and cookies and tell them how terible the U.S. has been to them.

Loyal Democrat in MD   January 15th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Follow the Constitution...pure and simple!!!!!
NO TORTURE! CLOSE GITMO ASAP!

Los   January 15th, 2009 2:44 pm ET

If Republicans hate the media so much, why are they always posting here?

Matt   January 15th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Proof of GOP cowardice. Here's a bunch of people against whom we have no evidence with which to bring charges or obtain convictions, and because they're all brown and muslim, you've crapped your pants with fear and are too scared to have the integrity to stand by the founding principles of our country....innocent until proven guilty, justice, fairness, equity, INALIENABLE HUMAN RIGHTS, etc.

BOK BOK CHICKENS

Scott Tucson   January 15th, 2009 2:40 pm ET

Obama can release them, bring them all here and give them a trade like..maybe give them flight training?

Vet   January 15th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

Don't close it. You'll regret it later. These guys are bad. All you bleeding heart liberals are ruining this country.

DP   January 15th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Does anyone realize who is held at Guantanamo? The mastermind behind the USS Cole bombing has the possibility of going free if we shut down the prison. I cannot fathom that anyone would think someone who planned and bombed a US warship killing several of our service personnel thinks this person should go free. They do not deserve rights under our Constitution. They shouuld not be allowed on American soil. Where were the rules of engagement when the terrorist attacked us? This is war where people die, not some sporting event. The end result out is we will put a bullet in the head of the attackers rather than worrying about taking prisoners because killing on the battlefield is legal.

Zac   January 15th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

American Prisoners would love a visit with the Terrorists. Place them in general population.

Charles L. Shaw, Liverpool, NY   January 15th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

I never thought in my wild dreams that someday we would be debating the morality of the United Staes of America having a concentration camp?
What has happened to the US Constitution? Our Country should never ever gone down this road, I'm very scared for the future of our children and grandchildren as we continue to side step the very principles our founding father's risked everything so this Nation could be Free.
I for one will continue to remind our leadership that we must preserve the Freedom and Liberty of all people even criminals or may God help us all.
Our founding father's were fredom fighters here, but the the English Empire they were terrorists.

Al   January 15th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

Send them back to their home countries. They are of no use to us now as any intel they may have had 5 years ago is obsolete and they will be of no use to their own countries as they should not have been allowed to gather any of our intel during their incarceration. Most of them are washed up and broken; continuing to torture them only demonstrates power over the powerless, which is what cowards do. The next best thing is to give them a .45, a single bullet and a half hour alone. We are more humane to animals in this country than we have been to these 'detainees'.

Karen - Missouri   January 15th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

People should be realistic. It WILL take time to close Gitmo and people should just calm down a bit. Obama isn't even sworn in yet and everyone is so impatient for things to get done. I say everyone needs to CHILL OUT

V. Clausewitz   January 15th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

Send them to San Francisco. That will teach them to sit down and keep their mouths shut.

Amber   January 15th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

EM – stop listening to Rush. He said that this morning. Repeating what he says rots your brain.

Diana Ewing NJ   January 15th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

I have a great idea, after the prisoners are charged with a crime they should be taken to the town Bush settles in Texas..

Rob, you forget that many of them are not charged with anything... maybe because there is nothing to charge them with except being an muslium.. and with our seperation of state and church.. that is not a crime.. What we watch being done with them, can be done to us.. because we were silent and let it happen.

The truth hurts!   January 15th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

I have a solution that will satisfy everyone! Give each of them a trial by jury using the governing laws of the countries where they were captured (mostly Afghanistan) with the juries to be picked from among family members of those that died on September 11, 2001 and the servicemen and servicewomen killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. Those that are found innocent can go free and those that are found guilty are punished based upon the governing laws of the applicable country.

DavidinCA   January 15th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Oops! There goes another campaign promise! Which is really okay because it makes sense. The point is, with all of these people who slam Bush because "Look at all of the things Barack is going to do for us you incompetent GOP pigs!". Well, it's much easier to get votes than it is to to run a country. Stay tuned.

Anonymous   January 15th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Michael M, Phoenix AZ January 15th, 2009 12:26 pm ET
Alcatraz would be nice…can they swim?
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According to you, who are 'they'? And is your attempt at humor an unsuccessful attempt at masking a fear and ignorance of and towards something that you could never hope to understand?

Libs be dopes   January 15th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Obama will take care of his buds, no problem.

Pog Mahon   January 15th, 2009 2:17 pm ET

While reading the posts I see the right wing nut jobs are out in full force touting fear and hatred. Proposing muder, torture, and all manner of "manly" chest pumping. Bunch of whimps can't handle dealing with the world by following our Constitution and time tested integrity of personal rights and dignities extended to our fellow man. If these weenies were any exmaple of our citizenry I'd say the Taliban had won in tearing down our society/country to their level. A bunch of scared ignorrant barbaric neanderthals clinging to their primitive brains and fear based bigotted religion.

Nat   January 15th, 2009 2:17 pm ET

Oh, Rob, shut up. Human and civil rights were violated. If we let that happen in this country in the name of "national security" it's a slippery slope to the erosion of all the freedoms we hold so dear.

Peter   January 15th, 2009 2:14 pm ET

I say that if we know that these terrorists truly cannot be released, put them in nice big prisons. If they were tortured and/or we believe they've given up their ways, I say a new trial is needed so we can find out what happened. Torture doesnt work, if we torture them, then they will torture our troops if they catch them. Gitmo is a waste of money

Capital Insider   January 15th, 2009 2:09 pm ET

So where is this "third group" that "can't be tried "for a variety of reasons" going? If they are dangerous where are you going to stick them? Alaska? Florida? California? Texas?

demwit   January 15th, 2009 2:01 pm ET

You mean that if I go to a foriegn country and get caught fighting against another foreign country, I'm not really guilty of fighting until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt??

Samuel   January 15th, 2009 1:59 pm ET

Exactly, close that place... and the case is not that difficult: the inmates are either guilty or not guilty. If guilty punish him in accordance to Geneva conventions if not guilty let them go .... but do not keep people in a torture house without charges. WE ARE A NATION OF LAW AND ORDER!!

kelly WI   January 15th, 2009 1:57 pm ET

So, the message is clear to the military. Take no prisoners, then we won;t have this political correct b..s. After all we don't want to hurt the terrorists "feelings" even tho they are willing to strap a bomb on themselves to meet their virgins. ha. what a bunch of nit wit killers.

Larry C. in Houston TX   January 15th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

Michael M, Phoenix AZ..............That is a Great Idea !!

I will 2nd that !!

Proud American   January 15th, 2009 1:53 pm ET

Thank God, and I'm glad to see America practice what it preach's

vic   January 15th, 2009 1:52 pm ET

That place should be burned to the ground.

Hugh in California   January 15th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Charge the Guantanamo prisoners with a crime and try to convict them, or release them back to there place of origin. If any are American citizens they must be given a fair trial in federal court or set free. President Bush has used every loophole to circumvent the laws laid down by our founding fathers, and has trampled on the Bill of Rights, the Constitution of the United States and violated the Geneva Convention and international law.

Larry C. in Houston TX   January 15th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

why don't they put those people on the front line in either afghanistan, or Iraq ? this way, we wouldn't need to spend the taxpayers money on them, trying to keep them in some jail, somewhere...

demwit   January 15th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Close it!! And release them on the streets of New York and California. Their the most likely targets of the next attack anyways..

philly   January 15th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

put them in federal prisons if they have broken laws, otherwise set them free. other countries are not going to take them, why should they be expected to? We detained them so they are our problem now.

Tim   January 15th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

Matt,

The righteousness and moral high ground that comes from consistently adhering to the principles upon which our country was founded and respecting basic human rights?

Get off your high horse. I want the righteousness and moral high ground that comes from responsibility and being held accountable for your actions. If you are going to boil this down to righteousness, there is nothing more righteous than doing unto others what you want done unto you. I have a right to expect the Gitmo terrorists to act upon this righteous concept, and since they are out their killing and maiming others, that must be what they want done to them. Sorry, they have given up any claims to any form of respect. As a human, I consider them subhuman, and we need to seperate them from others.

Steve   January 15th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

believe January 15th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

is anything really going to change??
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Sure! The names will change to protect the guilty!

richard   January 15th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Just drop them off in Illinois. Maybe pick one for the new governor. Terrorist seem to be less corrupt than the Democratic Party.

Tim   January 15th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

So if they are at Gitmo, let's go ape about it. But if we need to move them somewhere else, its ok?

Sorry, the democrats sense of logic and acts of hipocracy are very amusing to me. If a Republican proposes a feasible solution to a difficut problem, cry out about it and call it a travesty. If a democrat proposes the same solution, sans the geography, praise him as forward looking? Sorry, you self-justification and false outrage border on treason.

scdemocrat   January 15th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

Hey Kyle, take off the partisan blinders and look at ,and READ the news. I am guessing you didn't see where just this week , the alleged 20th hijacker can't be tried because he was TORTURED.

flyer @ 12:31   January 15th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

Shouldn't you be getting back to your video games?

Obama Victim   January 15th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

has anyone considered executions???

Steve   January 15th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Closing GITMO isn't the issue. Giving these prisoners their day in court is. Either try them or set them free. It is illegal in both US and international law to hold someone merely because "they're dangerous". What is the standard for "dangerous"? Where is the precident for holding someone for being dangerous?

This is a very slipperly legal slope we as a country are sliding down. Based upon this fuzzy and nebulous definition and rationale for holding prisoners, I'd suggest that, based on the chaos they've created in the world, and the US, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney should be arrested and placed in GITMO. "Dangerous" doesn't begin to describe these two.

bsmith171   January 15th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

when will that take place?
will you move the prisoners to the white house?

Kyle   January 15th, 2009 1:10 pm ET

To Flyer: They read it wrong. Its not 72 Virgins...its 72 Virginians!

believe   January 15th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

is anything really going to change??

Wynter   January 15th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

I heard that Bush and Laura's new gated community in Dallas Texas is getting its name changed to "Guantanamo Estates".

What is up with that???

Loyalty   January 15th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

He is loyal to both Clinton and Obama, but what about the law?

janet, ohio   January 15th, 2009 12:59 pm ET

Gee, I thought the physical act of closing it would be the hard part. Finding homes for all the terrorists is the hard part? Who knew? I'm sure glad he cleared that up with that brilliant and enlightening statement.

flyer   January 15th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

Here is a plan for the gitmo inmates. Send them to me. I would be happy to send them on their way to meet their maker. I will supply the method of sending them away. All the Gov. has to do is bring them to me and take them away when I'm done. They want to die and get their 72 virgins anyway.

Tiff of Lithia Springs   January 15th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

Is there some place else we can put them until they are tried or released.

I remember as a kid Noriega being held in Tulsa at the post office and no one wanted to utilized the downtown post office.

Don't bring them to the U.S.

Michael M, Phoenix AZ   January 15th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

Alcatraz would be nice...can they swim?

the CIA needs room to breathe   January 15th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

close it and CIA get out of the sun light, how can you protect us from the front pages

Kyle   January 15th, 2009 12:25 pm ET

Wait, isn't this exactly the problem the Bush Administration has been saying is the problem. There are some folks we cannot give a trial to for various reasons, but they are too dangerous to be released for the fear that they will certainly cause or do harm to the U.S.A.?

Why is it that when Bush say's it the Dems get upset and running in circles screaming, but when God .. I mean Obama (Sorry) says the same thing its hailed as logical and reasonable.

Bush pooper-scooper   January 15th, 2009 12:20 pm ET

Hey, Mr. charade, President-elect Obama is just trying to begin to clean up the big, fat pile of dung that Bush is leaving in the White House for him to try and clean up. At least we can be hopeful that if they have to continue to detain these people, that at least they wont be TORTURED!!!!

Matt   January 15th, 2009 12:19 pm ET

@ This is a charade mr Obama, who said

"...what have you gained other than a political feather in your cap?"

What do we gain? The righteousness and moral high ground that comes from consistently adhering to the principles upon which our country was founded and respecting basic human rights. Respect from the international community for showing the integrity to admit Gitmo was a mistake and return to the societal mores we claim make our country the greatest on Earth. And, perhaps more than anything, we regain our self-respect. We have no evidence against most of these people...it is not our right nor obligation to figure out what to do with them after they're released (other than making sure they are re-patriated, etc.). After that, they are and should be free. Period.

Mike, Syracuse NY   January 15th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

Since these terrorists are not POW's the Geneva Convention doesn't apply. Basically non-military combatants have very few rights defined under international law. They certainly do not have nor should they, the protections in the Constitution. Whatever interrogation method works best, whether it's drugs, waterborading or being forced to listen to Barry Manilow 24/7, we should use it.

John   January 15th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

To "This is a charade mr Obama":
Did you even read the article? Mr. Holder stated, "The physical act of closing the base isn't the problem, the more pressing question is the fate of the roughly 250 inmates currently being held at Guantanamo Bay"
This is a sticky issue created by the previous administration. Of course, it is not going to be easy to get out of it.
Would you rather the United States just maintain a legal black hole that people can fall into forever? How long do you think before American citizens fall into this hole? Would you trust the Democrats with that kind of power? Because Mr. Obama doesn't. Neither do I, nor anybody who respects the US Constitution.

Cammi317   January 15th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

I don't understand "can't be tried, but can't be released because they are too dangerous". If we have proof that they have committed crimes then they must be tried, if we don't then we have to let them go. I don't understand the philosphy of holding people for years while you attempt to find some dirt on them. That has to be illegal.

political junkie in NJ   January 15th, 2009 12:15 pm ET

it is a big deal, if you can do better, you take the job MR. CHARADE!!!

Rob   January 15th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

Great idea! Then let them get some ambulance chasers and they can find a sympathetic judge to release them. Then they can turn around and sue, because of all those years that big mean ol' President Bush was going off doing something irrational like protecting the country. Then, with the money they win, they can go buy some nukes and come back here and finish the job. But hey, at least we can feel good about ourselves, say we were being the best for the world to view us. Of course, seeing as we'll be glowing from the radiation people will be able to see us quite well as it is,

After all, now that the 'feel' good libs are gonna be taking over, such things as safety and national security fall by the wayside. It's much more important for the French to like us, or for Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, and the Dixie Chicks to be able to go to foreign countries and not be ashamed to say they're from America.

That's ok, I was tired of living in a superpower anyways. It'll be nice to be on an even playing field with say France or Portugal.

This is a charade mr Obama   January 15th, 2009 11:57 am ET

Big deal you close Guantanamo, but the prisoners just go somewhere else -what have you gained other than a political feather in your cap? This is a charade. The issue is not Guantanamo, but the fate of the captives. The issue is that they are being held without due process. Shuttling them off to other countries and maybe other US military bases here in the states just glosses over the root issue here. My My Mr Obama is learning the DC craft of slight of hand and bait and switch

Robin   January 15th, 2009 11:55 am ET

Please don't bring them here.

EM   January 15th, 2009 11:54 am ET

Oh, so you mean they are finally figuring out what the Bush administration has been saying all along. Funny how that is working out.

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