February 1st, 2009
11:40 AM ET
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Carville: A history lesson for Rush Limbaugh

James Carville says Rush Limbaugh's new bipartisan strategy could have served the country well in 2000.
James Carville says Rush Limbaugh's new bipartisan strategy could have served the country well in 2000.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - On Thursday, Rush Limbaugh, the moral and intellectual leader and most influential person in the Republican Party in the United States, wrote in the august op-ed pages of The Wall Street Journal, the acknowledged epicenter of right-wing thought, that President Obama should adopt a bipartisan solution to address the president's economic stimulus plan - or as Limbaugh refers to it, "porkulus."

Limbaugh proposes that because the Democrats got roughly 54 percent of the votes to the Republicans' 46 percent, the stimulus package should be allocated along his definition of ideological lines, i.e. 54 percent towards infrastructure improvement and 46 percent toward tax breaks for Limbaugh and his friends.

He writes, "Fifty-three percent of American voters voted for Barack Obama; 46% voted for John McCain, and 1% voted for wackos. Give that 1% to President Obama. Let's say the vote was 54% to 46%.

"As a way to bring the country together and at the same time determine the most effective way to deal with recessions, under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009: 54% of the $900 billion - $486 billion - will be spent on infrastructure and pork as defined by Mr. Obama and the Democrats; 46% - $414 billion - will be directed toward tax cuts, as determined by me."

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  1. Scott

    Yes, oh wise beacon of rational thought, Rush Limbaugh, thank you for your guidance. President Obama would do well to ignore the wind bag or do as Mr. Carville does in poking holes in Rush's words.

    February 1, 2009 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  2. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    You've got to love Carville, he's taking Rush to a troth like nobody else can. Keep talking Rush until the Republican party has totally imploded.

    February 1, 2009 11:59 am at 11:59 am |
  3. Deb

    Carville, your are so right!!!!! I would like to know where was the outcry when we were sending billions to Iraq????? All the repubs can say is cut taxes, cut taxes. At the rate the country is going when it comes to job loses who hell care about taxes when you don't have a JOB!!!

    February 1, 2009 11:59 am at 11:59 am |
  4. THE OLD TIMER

    THERE WILL BE A DEPRESSION STOP THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING THAT IS INEVITABLE. YOU WILL NOT HEAR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL IN WASHINGTON SAY THAT A DEPRESSION IS ON THE WAY

    February 1, 2009 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  5. catmom

    Good, now the 54 % can agree to increase Limbaugh's taxes. He makes enough to pay more and not worry about it.

    February 1, 2009 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  6. Angie in Pa

    Who gives a rats a$$ what this fat slob drug addict thinks and Rush your a wacko!

    February 1, 2009 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  7. Henry Miller, Cary, NC

    Not that I care for Rush Limbaugh, but he has a point.

    What the Democrats have in mind goes something like this:

    1. You earn money.
    2. The government taxes it away from you.
    3. The government gives away your money as it sees fit.

    What Limbaugh has in mind is:

    1. You earn money.
    2. The government taxes it away from you.
    3. The government gives away your money as Limbaugh sees fit.

    What difference, to your wallet, is there between the Democrat's plan and Limbaugh's plan? You had some money. It was taken away from you. And are you so naive as to think that what a bunch of politicians will do with your money is in any sense better than what Limbaugh would do with it? Remembering Ted Stevens and the Bridge to Nowhere and the billions in pork the politicians are always stealing from the citizens?

    Carville, like most Democrats, has this childish, touching, arrogant, faith that Government can always spend your money better and more wisely than you can. You, individually, don't matter, and, anyway, you're too dumb and
    too selfish to make the Right Decisions regarding what to do with what used to be your money.

    February 1, 2009 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  8. Henry Miller, Cary, NC

    Not that I care for Rush Limbaugh, but he has a point.

    What the Democrats have in mind goes something like this:

    1. You earn money.
    2. The government taxes it away from you.
    3. The government gives away your money as it sees fit.

    What Limbaugh has in mind is:

    1. You earn money.
    2. The government taxes it away from you.
    3. The government gives away your money as Limbaugh sees fit.

    What difference, to your wallet, is there between the Democrat's plan and Limbaugh's plan? You had some money. It was taken away from you. And are you so naive as to think that what a bunch of politicians will do with your money is in any sense better than what Limbaugh would do with it? Remembering Ted Stevens and the Bridge to Nowhere and the billions in pork the politicians are always stealing from the citizens?

    Carville, like most Democrats, has this childish, touching, arrogant, faith that Government can always spend your money better and more wisely than you can. You, individually, don't matter, and, anyway, you're too dumb and too selfish to make the Right Decisions regarding what to do with what used to be your money.

    February 1, 2009 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm |
  9. S Callahan

    Personally, as a Republican I can say Limbaugh is not my 'Daddy' nor is he the "most influential person for Republicans in US". There are alot of us just sitting scratching our heads and asking since when did entertainment override common sense. So lost. Shameful.

    February 1, 2009 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  10. Melissa in New Orleans

    I have a few choice words for Rush. He needs to butt out and crawl back under his rock. We are sick of hearing from him and he is a slimy little snake.

    February 1, 2009 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  11. goodness we are giving a lot of attention to that pill popper

    Rush has nothing good to say, why are we listening?

    I have listened to his show, it is not factually based, it is heavily based on emotionalism and playing to unproven truths

    He describes himself as an entertainer, what is he doing being given a second thought by anyone about the policy of the U.S.

    I have listened to Rush and by choice do not listen to him, please, just like Palin – who I find funny so less objectable – do not wish to see him as a part of news, he is not news, he is entertainment, and sad, deprived entertainment at that

    February 1, 2009 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  12. Mobius

    Whatever. Still 100% "funded" by taxpayers.

    February 1, 2009 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
  13. Limbot

    I'm really enjoying how the GOP behaves as a minority party. Lots of whining and juvenile reasoning. It's very convenient for them to forget the imperious arrogance they led with. Show me the equivalent moment of GOP moderation and self-restraint in the last 8 years, and then they can have proportional rule like Limbaugh describes. Show me a moment where they treated the minority opposition party reasonably, and shared their power. Ha ha ha. Now the GOP loves the filibuster, which they were prepared to criminalize prior to 2006. Now the GOP loves obstructionsism. But when the Dems obstructed, that was treason. The GOP's ideas have been judged by the voters to be lacking in the marketplace of ideas. Welcome to the modern conservative party where no two actions ever result in a standard. I really hope they adopt obstructionism as their banner, because all of them (including Michael Steele) will be tossed out on their butts in 2 years. They would continue their willful destruction of the nation for personal gain and pettiness. Say it with me... "Permanent Democratic Majority?"

    February 1, 2009 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  14. Aaron B.

    THANK YOU.

    THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR SINCE RUSH SAID THAT STUFF.

    THANK YOU.

    February 1, 2009 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  15. Randy

    You got to just like this guy he tells it like it is.

    February 1, 2009 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  16. John from SC

    I think that "El Rushbo" should consider it in this way:

    How about people in the 54 percent of the discticts whose congressperson voted to help actually receive the help, and the people in the 46 percent of the disctricts whose congressperson voted the bill down receive just that, nothing.

    However, we are wiser than that, and it will not go that way. All of the American people will be helped, not just those whose congressperson thinks helping them is a good idea, and we will not leave the people behind whose congressperson believes that God's word is law, and that Rush's word is God's word. By the way, I believe that God's word is law, but I have serious doubts that anyone in their right, left, middle or any mind at all should listen to Rush.

    February 1, 2009 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  17. Dan, TX

    Bring Limbaugh out on the talk show circuit. Expose him to the light of day. When people see the truly illogical arguments he makes and then uses illogic as a starting point for additional ad hominem attacks the 80% of America who are not like the sheep that look to Limbaugh for guidance will see once and for all he is an entertainer and comedian, and has no political insight whatsoever. I am amazed that someone hasn't done a YouTube upload going line-by-line through Rush's show, pointing out his nonsense and countering his lies with the truth. They'd be the most popular videos on the web and someone could parlay this into a solid well-paying job.

    February 1, 2009 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  18. Central Scruitinizer

    Love Carville. Wouldnt you LOOOOVE to see Limpy and Carville debate?

    February 1, 2009 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  19. Terry

    "From CNN Contributor James Carville" ....it should read...White House Contributor for the Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel.

    He' complaining about Rush....ain't that the pot calling the kettle black.
    He get's a morning briefing from the Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel on how to handle the media spin. He's complaining about Rush when he's part of the Rambo War Room. This is just diversionary tactics...to take away from the Pork and Pay for Play Package that's in the Senate.

    Let's stay focused as taxpayers... because...
    Dorothy....close your eyes, click your heels...and say.."there's no place like Illinois, there's no place like Illinois."

    February 1, 2009 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  20. Maggie SC

    This written by CNN writer? Think I believe his words? They are all for one and one for all, the dems and the Obamaniacs. The "We The People" need to think all this trought very carefully. sone one wants a hidden agenda and it will reveal itself is we wait patiently. Sine no one is crediable then we have to think for ourselves and not allow the government think for us.

    February 1, 2009 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  21. Pat in IL

    Rush Limbaugh is just a not very good comedian and liar. good comedians base their monologues on some iota of truth. Why anyone would give his rants the time of day is beyond me. A good debater hears, understands and addresses the opposing view. A good leader and a good Christian gives everyone respect. Rush is none of those.

    February 1, 2009 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  22. Griff

    Where is the Story??? One's a Democrat, one is a Republican...
    Two different points os view... That's fair.. But they Know I'm Right.. You are both Right... You have a Different Disc in your Heads..

    February 1, 2009 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  23. check the volcano

    Im willing to sacrifice Limbaugh and Palin to the alaskan volcano for the good of all Americans.

    February 1, 2009 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  24. steve

    Democratic strategist:
    Ref: Rush Limbaugh: GOP Head

    Continue to make Rush Limbaugh the Voice and face of the Republican party.
    It is a good strategy that would implode them and make their politically fortune dead going forward.
    Since they (GOP) embraces his extreme and hateful partisan views.
    They should be labeled as such.

    February 1, 2009 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  25. Independent voter

    Rush Limbaugh gives Republicans a really bad name. How can the repubs allow this man to become their spokesperson? He is such an extremist, such an UNAMERICAN person. Americans are so much more fair and balanced, this man is a pithetic and rediculous joke. I am so glad I am not a republican and so glad that he does not convey or represent my message of being an American.

    February 1, 2009 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
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