February 12th, 2009
12:15 PM ET
6 years ago

Where's the bill?

 Nearly a day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, announced a $789 billion-dollar final economic stimulus deal, congressmen still had not seen a printed bill, or even a written summary of the legislation.
Nearly a day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, announced a $789 billion-dollar final economic stimulus deal, congressmen still had not seen a printed bill, or even a written summary of the legislation.

Capitol Hill (CNN) – Nearly a day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, announced a $789 billion-dollar final economic stimulus deal, congressmen still had not seen a printed bill, or even a written summary of the legislation.

Most lawmakers, staffers and reporters Thursday were depending on just a handful of details given out the day before by Reid, Finance Chairman Max Baucus, D-Montana, and two key negotiators, Senator Susan Collins, R-Maine and Senator Ben Nelson, D-Nebraska.

Collins read off some figures from a handwritten and somewhat crumpled sheet of paper.

On the House floor Thursday morning, Colorado Rep. Ed Perlmutter, D-Colorado, took on the unenviable task of explaining the uninked compromise bill. As he ran through broad categories such as tax cuts or energy spending, Republican Virginia Foxx, R-North Carolina, pounced.

"You talk about this bill as though you have read the bill," she said. "And I want to ask, has the bill been made available to the Democrats in the chamber?"

"Uh," Perlmutter paused. "I have seen the House version, and I have seen the Senate version, and I have highlights of the compromise." He had not seen a written version.

As staff worked frantically to put the deal in print, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi postponed a news conference planned for 10:45 am ET to 3 pm.

Her office said the move was related to the Lincoln birthday celebration and visit from President Obama set for the Capitol Rotunda at lunchtime.


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  1. Lance

    Thank God for the Republicans. Their issue is basic:
    1. there is no oversight once the money leaves DC
    2. there is not guarantee that money givne to the banks
    will be used for the intended purpose.
    3. this is a big bill that will have to be paid in the future
    4. There is no punishment for the Banks that gave loans to people that could not pay them. They got themselves in the mess, let them get themselves out.
    5. as noted in the Senate yesterday, Citbank does not get it.
    One executive working only 4months got a $25 million bonus, 10 million of which came from TARP. How do I get on the gravey train.
    The CEO of Citibank said he would now make sure that everyone at Citibank gets it. Would he have said that if he did not appear before congress? Nope. He got caught with his pants down.

    Becareful what you wish for. GIve more power to the government and you will never get it back. You can not have it both ways. Many governments that have gone socialist went back to free enterprise.

    You may want higher taxes, but not me in order to pay for this mess that I did not create. The bad guys are the banks. Plain and simple.

    The banks should have just folded. Oh, no one ever mentioned that not one Credit Union failed during the depression. What does that tell you. Let the commercial banks fail. Start all over again. Long live credit unions.

    We need someone sitting in a chair watching where the money goes, looking at a piece of paper, coming back in a week and seeing if the money went for what it was intended. My guess, the $ the banks are getting is being used to inflate their bottom line.

    Good luck to us all. God save America, 'cause that's the only one who can.

    Lance

    February 12, 2009 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  2. fred

    i think that you should look at your education first NO Money. Your spelling and sentence structure is awful. Apparently, you haven't seen that there are many economists that say it won't work.

    February 12, 2009 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
  3. Had It

    I wish all you people would quit with the criticism and demands.

    This stimulus bill needs to get done.

    Education funding can be worked on next week or next month. Just quit stalling on creating jobs. No food is more urgent now.

    February 12, 2009 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  4. Lily

    Hey, No Money – I haven't seen "sputid" in the dictionary nor some of the other "words" you used in your comment either. Stupid, is to let these "professionals" get us on the right track when they had their hands in the financial mess to begin with. Even Limbaugh could do a better job than the "professional" economists! Spend to get out of debt??????Duh????

    BTW, next time you write a comment get someone to edit it for you, if you can find someone who can interpret what you are trying to say. And, if the red states do get money for education, move to one and enroll.

    February 12, 2009 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  5. Eric in Texas

    In paragraph 2 those should be in million, not billion. I apologize, I was in the middle of a rant.

    February 12, 2009 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  6. REF

    no money over 300 economist took out a letter in a major newspaper to dispute the lie that all economist are in favor of it.. an expert in a field is just merely someone who agrees with yours. also most right wingers by a gallop survey are more generous than liberals when it comes to charities..why is this because we know how to manage our incomes and are generally more responsible and happier look the poll up. its the left like you who look at others and are jealous and want what they worked for.. i think it was m. thatcher who said socialism works great til your neighbor runs out of money......

    February 12, 2009 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  7. JC

    ALL TRAITORS!

    February 12, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  8. rob smith

    It is curious to me that this so-called stimulus will put very little simulation in the hands of the American taxpayer. Let's see... if I am retired what do I get? $700 or maybe nothing. Who gets stimulated? On the other hand if the political nitwits had given every man women and child in America who made less than $100,000 per year an equal share of the $800,000,000,000 we would have a true stimulus that would get America to work. Each American's share could only be used for Made in America goods and services. I'm guessing that there would be about 230 million Americans sharing in this deal and each would receive about $3.400. I could buy a few new windows, a family of three could pay down some debt and a newly married couple could have a significant downstroke on a new American car....... OK i'm dreaming

    February 12, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  9. jaye

    Time to get 'er done!

    February 12, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  10. Terry, TX

    Was there a 100% unemployment in Education.... did we need to more than double the 2009 Education Budget.... is it not enough as a property owner I pay school taxes in my state and working taxes. The Pork Package ...the free state money..... the majority will go to California, Michigan, New York, and Illinois ....because Pelosi reinstated funds to go to illegal aliens... American Citizens will get less. Hello.
    Plus I don't owe anyone free college....I already pay for elementary, junior high and high school.

    February 12, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  11. Mark

    They are waiting to see if China will loan us the money!!

    February 12, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  12. pete

    I'm not sure what kind of clown Harry thinks he is, but he seems to fit in with the ongoing circus.

    February 12, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  13. Ray Ray

    Ahhh... this is the new "transparency" promised by Obama?

    We should simply TRUST IN OBAMA and not sweat the details??

    February 12, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  14. Bry

    Conservatives like to think for themselves. Dems enjoy being forced fed information and believe everything they are told. You don't need a masters degree to see this bill is horrible and loaded with pork.

    February 12, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  15. Big Al

    No Money – given the intelligence of your comments, did you graduate with honors from the sixth grade? You are a great example of why throwing more money down the hole of public education is absurd!

    February 12, 2009 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  16. Marc

    Jim – February 12th, 2009 12:37 pm ET.
    Your comment would make sense, supposing that the majority of the GOP representatives and senators are against the bill EVEN BEFORE THET CAN READ IT.
    TCM – I stand correct, you were right about the corporate taxes issue.

    February 12, 2009 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  17. Marc

    Jim – February 12th, 2009 12:37 pm ET.
    Your comment would make sense, supposing that the majority of the GOP representatives and senators weren't against the bill EVEN BEFORE THET CAN READ IT.
    TCM – I stand correct, you were right about the corporate taxes issue.

    February 12, 2009 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |
  18. Noah

    No Money- Judging from your incoherent posting you must not have received much schooling either. Your sentences run on without the proper punctuation and your spelling is atrocious. If you actually took the time to read any websites or newspapers that are not merely Liberal dish rags then you would know that over 250 economists have come together to denounce this Stimu-less bill as wasteful and unnecessary. You really should not throw stones when you are not equipped yourself

    February 12, 2009 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |
  19. Ken

    Well “No Money”, with a handle like that I could understand why you would want a stimulus/pork/bailout plan like this. To continue your un-employment benefits and food stamps so you don't have to go back to work.

    February 12, 2009 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  20. Mark Ferbet

    It takes time to get these things in writing. And there can be no mistakes... those that don't understand how the Legislature works, should read up on it.

    IF they don't have something in writing, before they vote... they are failing the American People... but they need to get this bill in the hands of all the Representatives, so they can at least make an effort to read what has been proposed.

    February 12, 2009 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  21. Patriot Guy

    Every pork-addicted, self-serving rat that votes for this corrupt piece of garbage should be thrown out of office.

    February 12, 2009 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  22. DP

    I propose that I do not receive any of the services of this bill and therefore should not see any of the tax increases brought on by the bill.

    February 12, 2009 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  23. David

    Shady, shady, shady!!!!

    February 12, 2009 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  24. Gort

    I still maintain that those congressmen that vote against it should demonstrate their utlimate ideological dedication and REFUSE any funding for their congresional districts.

    We all hear the self-righteous hue and cry from the conservative posters on these sites that THEY don't want any part of what they term "Porkulus" or "Spendulus". So, my died-in-the-red republican freinds, put your money (literally) where your mouth is: REFUSE any stimulus benefits. Return any moneys sent your way and hound your local representatives just as vocifersouly as you sound off in these comment areas to refuse it as well.

    February 12, 2009 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  25. Cosmo

    No Money:

    How about the Nobel Prize winners who are opposing this? How about the CBO which is saying this will not only not work, but will also be harmful well into the future?

    I don't expect an answer from you because you can't possibly have one.

    February 12, 2009 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
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