February 22nd, 2009
09:48 AM ET
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Barbour to pass on some stimulus funds, Patrick wants them

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Govs. Barbour and Patrick clash over the stimulus measure.

(CNN) - Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a Republican, reiterated Sunday he will reject some of the funds in the massive $787 billion stimulus measure if it forces his state to spend its own money in the future.

Speaking on CNN's State of the Union, Barbour specifically cited an unemployment reform package included in the stimulus bill calling for an increase in benefits as evidence his state would have to pick up the tab on the provision in a couple of years.

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"If we were to take the unemployment reform package that they have, it would cause us to raise taxes on employment when the money runs out and the money will run out in a couple of years and then we'll have to raise the unemployment insurance tax which is literally a tax on employment," Barbour said.

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"I mean, we want more jobs," he also said. "You don't get more jobs by putting an extra tax on creating jobs."

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a Democrat, appearing with Barbour, disagreed with the Mississippi governor’s assertion but acknowledged that states will have to be prudent about what to do once the stimulus money runs out. For now, Deval said he is prepared to accept all the money allotted to his state in the measure, specifically citing its effects on improving the nation's infrastructure.

"Certainly in Massachusetts, people want their roads repaired and want bridges repaired and want a clean energy strategy and alternatives and real alternatives and want us to be candid with them about those needs, he said. "Whether governors say they will or won't take this or that as part of the stimulus bill, in some ways, is irrelevant. People want that help."

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. CC

    It has been mentioned on the media that Rahn Emanuel is being investigated for involvement with Fannie Mae. I believe he and other Dem's have set up this mess of selling loans to people that they knew could not pay back. The only rapid solution to Banks, companies, and people with or selling homes would be a stimulous. And they think this will make everyone thankful and vote again for Dem's. Well think again. Investigate Rahn well.

    February 22, 2009 10:37 am at 10:37 am |
  2. Joe American

    Back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and, as required by law, they tried to run it. They failed and it closed. Now we are trusting the economy of our country and our banking system to the same nit-wits who couldn't make money running a prostitution house and selling whiskey!!!!

    The point is, if you take the money then the government will own your state. Just ask GM, Chrysler, and the banks that have all accepted bailout money.

    Take the money and you, your kids, and grand kids are guaranteed to be a slave for life....

    February 22, 2009 10:37 am at 10:37 am |
  3. cobra

    The republican govenors that are not taking all the money are a lot smarter than the socialists think. Once they take the money they have the feds taking control. The other side of the coin is the republican governors are possible from states that do not have a huge debt and/or have balanced budgets. I am from Wyoming and we do not have a huge debt due to the fact the legislature does not spend more than they take in. Why should the states that have fiscal responsibility have to help bail out the rest. It is sicking that states like California are so far in debt due to total irresponsibility in funding all the feel good programs, it makes me damn mad.

    February 22, 2009 10:37 am at 10:37 am |
  4. martin0641

    If politicians keep acting stupid like they always do, he's right, and he would have to raise the unemployment tax. But theres not reason he cannot accept the money, and have the legislature codify the begin and end dates for the extended coverage in a law. This prevents someone from having to take the action to "revoke" benefits later, as the date would be decided before expanded coverage began.

    The lack of basic creativity and insight on the part of our politicians is astounding.

    February 22, 2009 10:38 am at 10:38 am |
  5. John

    These states will seal a competitive disadvantage for years to come in terms of educated citizens and good paying jobs.

    February 22, 2009 10:38 am at 10:38 am |
  6. HeadMasterT

    Mississippi gets over $2 in Federal money for every dollar collected in Federal taxes. Gov. Haley Barbour already runs a welfare state and seems intent on insuring that situation continues.

    February 22, 2009 10:38 am at 10:38 am |
  7. charles

    Governor, just take the money any use it the way you want. Your people are going to standby you for insorbodination to the president and congress.
    Thanks

    February 22, 2009 10:38 am at 10:38 am |
  8. Dave

    Kent, you are truly an idiot. You must be one of these unemployed grabbaggers who voted this incompetent into office. Don't you get the fact that the employed workers pay unemployment insurance taxes out of every paycheck. Way to go Barbour. Someone needs to show some intelligence out there.

    February 22, 2009 10:39 am at 10:39 am |
  9. flybyshoeing

    Why are Republicans afraid of stings?

    February 22, 2009 10:39 am at 10:39 am |
  10. Brian

    It's said in SC all the time...thank God for Mississippi!

    February 22, 2009 10:40 am at 10:40 am |
  11. Coherent1

    Good ole Barbour, we the people in the south, know exactly what you're saying. Even Alabamians believe Mississippi should be an interstate exchange or a massive parking lot. You should not be allowed to have residents, you're even more biased, as a whole, than Alabama, and that's ridiculous.

    February 22, 2009 10:41 am at 10:41 am |
  12. Matt

    I live in MS and its every bit as lousy as you may have heard. The Republican machine is infused in almost every facet of a Mississippian's daily life: the capital city has one (conservative) newspaper; the owners of that newspaper also own talk radio and television stations; politicians constantly invoke the second amendment and abortion policy into political campaigns (btw– what in the hell does abortion have to do with mayoral races?).

    Pure and simple: Barbour doesn't want any Democratic politician to have the ability to take credit for making lives better here. MS receives $2 in government handouts already for every $1 it contributes in revenue. Newsflash Mr. Barbour: you're presiding over the secondmost socialist state in the Union. An economic crisis is no time for faux outrage and moralizing.

    February 22, 2009 10:42 am at 10:42 am |
  13. Larry

    Obama and the Democrats in Congress are KILLING THE CASH COW so they can have steak TODAY .TODAY,TODAY,TODAY,that's all Democrats can think about---Gov. Haley Barbour,is doing his JOB,looking toward the future,if Bush and Congress had been doing their job,we would not be in this situation now:

    When are you going to put Congress under the same microscope you do the bankers? People like Barney Frank,Chris Dodd, and Maxine Waters forced the banks to make loans to people that should not have qualified, then continued to protect the practice when everyone saw the problem coming six years ago. Now Frank, Waters and others are screaming the loudest at the banks for doing what they were forced by Congress to do. Quite honestly, I have more faith in the banks, as bad as they are, than I do this Congress.

    A New York Times article published September 11, 2003 described an emerging crisis with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and partisan resistance to proposed enhanced oversight of these two entities:
    “The Bush administration today recommended…….a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac…….which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt…….

    “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,’ said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ‘The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

    So you “SEE”,this really is the Democrats fault !!!Bush tried to stop the housing collapse,which would have saved the banks,which would have stopped wall street from crashing,which means your 401K would still be worth something,and you wouldn’t be laid off,and we wouldn’t need this spending bill,etc.
    -

    February 22, 2009 10:42 am at 10:42 am |
  14. Greg

    Turn the money down . . . so what happens when unemployment increases (likely) and he has to raise taxes to pay for unemplyment insurance, net result is the same. No wonder the Repubicians got us into this mess with thinking like that.

    February 22, 2009 10:42 am at 10:42 am |
  15. Independent America

    Is it a surprise that the states rejecting the federal funds are Confederate states? Is this a surprise? The whole "states rights" thing is still a old placed reaction to the loss of the confederacy in the Civil War. These people in states like MI, TX, and the other states are still bitter and racist and want to feel like they are seceeded from the Union. Has no one understood why they are so much against "big government"? It's because the government freed the slaves against the Southern states rights. The federal government or Union, gave rights to freed blacks, like the right to vote, the Union (federal government) gave Blacks their full citizenship. This is why so many "conservatives" are always championing states rights. It's the true issue that they would never admit to, but it is the reason their forefathers fought for the Confederacy. They wanted states rights to be above the federal government. If it were up to them, they would have human beings still trapped in the evil cuspises of slavery. However, and thank God they lost that fight, but passed it on to their progeny. Alas, these governors and their racist heritage, rearing its ugly head again. Let's not even mention the fact that I have never heard a state reject money from the government. I surmise no one should even surmise to think that is a coincidence that Pres. Obama is our first Black president. No that would be foolish, after all it was a New York Post cartoon had nothing to do with race.

    February 22, 2009 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  16. Paul Sambou

    Most of it has been said well by others,Mississippi is just like Some socall third world countries. At lest those in third world countries have not seen their close border countries prosper will it remain poor.
    Remembering an artcle that states that most of the other states are subsidizing the State of Mississippi . So for their governor to say that he is not going to take some Federal help money is just politices. Tell the Goverenor to play it right with his people. Thanks Paul.

    February 22, 2009 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  17. Nancy Bush

    A sad day when we refuse to feed and educate folks.

    February 22, 2009 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  18. ladym

    They keep on talking about tomorrow! what do you tell those people who do not have food for today, so Miss. governor you might be having a full belly today and tomorrow, swalow your pride and for heavens sake take the money!!! meanwhile for all those governors who refuse to take the stimulus that will be easy to vote them out when they try for the rerun no job sir!!!!!

    February 22, 2009 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  19. HEIDI

    Once a fool always a fool

    February 22, 2009 10:44 am at 10:44 am |
  20. Bob

    Perhaps if more people took note of the way the republican party has always treated the working class people and treated them like they were still the slaves of the past, more intelligence people would vote them all out of office. Only the voters can take control of their own destiny, therefore it is time to stand up and ask these idiots for their resignation, we have the power, all we need to do is exercise it. As one of the unemployed masses if my state governor refused to take the money I would be organizing protests on the streets and calling for his resignation. Unemployment is not welfare, in our state employees also pay into the fund, it is merely a way to survive until there are jobs to be had. Those that think otherwise are obviously republicans who have a job and money in the bank while the rest of us wonder how we are going to feed our families when there are no jobs to be found. Here here are 10 minimum wage jobs with 1000 applicants begging for them and every day another business lays off more people or shuts down.

    February 22, 2009 10:44 am at 10:44 am |
  21. Leigh

    All this yammering about how various governors won't accept stimulus funds is simply political maneuvering because the Republicans have absolutely nothing else to talk about.

    When it comes down to it, they'll take the money. They will take it because their states are broke and they have no choice.

    End of story.

    Note to the Republican party – people want to see you actively try to DO something about this crisis instead of acting out the usual partisan games you've been playing for the last 20 years. Its what got you where you are today, which is on the brink of extinction.

    February 22, 2009 10:45 am at 10:45 am |
  22. Jose

    Mississippi is already a welfare state, as are most red states. Give the money to California, where sentient humans can put it to better use.

    February 22, 2009 10:45 am at 10:45 am |
  23. Shawn

    Hello Mr. Barbour,

    I can honestly say you are an idiot. You act as if you have no clue about life. You are an elected official for MS, which is the poorest state in the Union. The education system, jobs, housing, and the basic needs aound the state are extremely terrible. We thank you for that. Nevertheless, your nonchalant and selfish attitude and reckless disregard for the citizens of MS will eventually be your downfall. The evil corruption in this State and our country will be brief.

    So I want you to keep the same greedy, corrupted, and selfish attitude when OUR FATHER COMES! You know CHRIST has a funny way of making us acknowledge HIM. You will see!

    As my a Christian, I still must love you; and I do. So I will be praying for you to do right by the people; most importantly, Christ.

    February 22, 2009 10:45 am at 10:45 am |
  24. Nikole

    This argument is stupid. This bill is meant to help right now, and some provisions should only be temporary, including extending these unemployment benefits. When the money runs out, that's the end of that. These states are not REQUIRED to continue w/o the money. Many of these governors are playing politics rather than helping their constituents.

    February 22, 2009 10:46 am at 10:46 am |
  25. cindy

    any governor that rejects help in any form should try living life like the real people of this country do. mr. barbour and any other governor should be made to live on unemployment and food stamps for 6 months. i guarantee they could'nt do it. that may help them to understand the realities of life!!!

    February 22, 2009 10:46 am at 10:46 am |
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