February 22nd, 2009
09:48 AM ET
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Barbour to pass on some stimulus funds, Patrick wants them

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Govs. Barbour and Patrick clash over the stimulus measure.

(CNN) - Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a Republican, reiterated Sunday he will reject some of the funds in the massive $787 billion stimulus measure if it forces his state to spend its own money in the future.

Speaking on CNN's State of the Union, Barbour specifically cited an unemployment reform package included in the stimulus bill calling for an increase in benefits as evidence his state would have to pick up the tab on the provision in a couple of years.

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"If we were to take the unemployment reform package that they have, it would cause us to raise taxes on employment when the money runs out and the money will run out in a couple of years and then we'll have to raise the unemployment insurance tax which is literally a tax on employment," Barbour said.

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"I mean, we want more jobs," he also said. "You don't get more jobs by putting an extra tax on creating jobs."

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a Democrat, appearing with Barbour, disagreed with the Mississippi governor’s assertion but acknowledged that states will have to be prudent about what to do once the stimulus money runs out. For now, Deval said he is prepared to accept all the money allotted to his state in the measure, specifically citing its effects on improving the nation's infrastructure.

"Certainly in Massachusetts, people want their roads repaired and want bridges repaired and want a clean energy strategy and alternatives and real alternatives and want us to be candid with them about those needs, he said. "Whether governors say they will or won't take this or that as part of the stimulus bill, in some ways, is irrelevant. People want that help."

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. ol' miss deserves what it has as governor.

    stupidity is a lifetime and transgenerational infliction.

    February 22, 2009 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  2. Jeff O

    First off we need to not do the blame game, I mean not blaming this on a party. For once can't we just say that we are all Americans dealing with a batime in the economic world. I just want to say this, MOST EVERY one depends WAY to much on the Gov. We ALL need to learn to spend with in our means. If we all have stayed with in our means years ago we all would have a little money stashed away for a rainy day. For the those who are not going to take the money for the Obama bail out....Good for you, not every one wants to stup to such levels to take tax payers money.

    February 22, 2009 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  3. Henry Miller, Cary, NC

    Governor Barbour's next step, of course, is to get legislation passed in Mississippi protecting the state's citizens from the IRS–if Obama's money comes with so many string attached as to make it ruinous to take it, there's no reason the residents of Mississippi ought to have to pay the taxes to pay for it.

    Versions of this is already under weigh. A lot of states are taking measures to stop cooperating with Washington's endless meddling when that meddling violates the Tenth Amendment:

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

    That includes just about everything Washington does other than foreign relations and the use of the military. NCLB is unconstitutional under the Tenth Amendment, as is the endless, idiotic, "War on Drugs and Freedom," and a whole lot of other stuff.

    It's time We the People told Washington to go to hell.

    February 22, 2009 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  4. Idaho

    Why do Republicans think it is so bad to give Americans who lost their jobs, majority now days are not welfare moms, but don't even say a word about the billions that have been given to rich Iragi's in the fraud of rebuilding Iraq. Believe me none of those people have paid a dime in US taxes. If you are going to make a fuse make a fuse for all of the waste, not just against the opposite party.

    February 22, 2009 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  5. get rid of campbell brown

    it is unbelievable that an idiots would line up to bash obama and agree with this republican nonsense about strings. let mississippi continue to be at the bottom of the pack in terms of education and health care. i suppose keeping them ignortant is the only way neanderthals like barbour can keep getting re-elected.

    February 22, 2009 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  6. Len

    I agree with Cactus Candy, the people of Mississippi will determine how it will effect them and they will determine the next election.

    If Republican governors reject the stimulus money, fine, more for the rest of the country.

    February 22, 2009 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  7. Linda_d

    It's just great to see that Haley Barbour is maintaining the tradition of Mississippi conservatives watching out for the poor and down-trodden. Back in the Great Depression, Mississippi pols opposed the New Deal program to provide food for the needy because they were afraid that they wouldn't work if they weren't hungry.

    February 22, 2009 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  8. Forgive and Share

    It is time for business and their GOP mascot to share the wealth and restore the economic health of the nation. If the needy can't afford their products and services, bankruptcy is inevitable. Greed and corruption has destroyed many nations. As of this moment, America is headed towards bankruptcy, thanks to GWB and the GOP.

    February 22, 2009 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  9. Raven

    More and More states are asserting their sovereignty
    which is the way it should be,
    The Federal government was not to have ANY power that was not
    expressly given it by the constitution.

    Way to go Mississippi.
    And my hats off to Montana and S. Carolina also.

    February 22, 2009 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  10. tee

    Dave
    Your comment is off base. It has been stated the the well educated, working class and the young people voted for President Obama. Besides illegal aliens are not allowed to vote. Where do you get your info from? I suggest you try other sources.

    February 22, 2009 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  11. Julie

    Just once I'd like to see a politician from the South (other than Jimmy Carter, God bless him) say or do something that wasn't just absolutely moronic. And the Southern Republicans, like the Governor of Mississippi, are the worst.

    February 22, 2009 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  12. briggsky

    He is simply lying. There is no provision to keep them from going back to their original base. Based on what Mississippi is paying (The worst in the US) it shouldn't hurt. With the worst schools in the US and the worst health care. This has to be political. The repubs who are not taking it are hurting their own people so they can run for president. We will never see another national republican because of their opposing help for GM and Ford. They have the out of the US car people to prop up. Even "Mitch the Snitch" here in KY is smart enough to take the money. The difference between the two parties has never been clearer. The people who ran up 6 trillion in debt in eight years are now concerned about spending. You can't make this stuff up.

    February 22, 2009 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  13. Jim

    Sure he wants to make political points on this. Fact is Mississippi takes back about $1.72 for every dollar of taxes they send to the federal government. I'm not sure what all you Republicans call that but I'd call it welfare. State Welfare. We have had a socialist system when it comes to states being taxed and that money being redistributed for the last fifty years.

    All the Republicans who are bashing California for being irresponsible, they're coming from states that California has been supporting.

    Now isn't welfare supposed to be temporary? If that's the case then lets stop this states welfare system. I'm tired of hearing all the southern hicks call the northern states Liberal Socialists when they're benefiting from STATE SOCIALISM!

    Time to put up or shut up.

    February 22, 2009 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  14. Marge

    Isn't it odd republicans are prepared (according to the old saying) to cut off their nose to spite their face. In other words they are going to trod on the rebuilding of their infrastructure to prove that the republicans are against "spending".

    But then take a look at the 8 trillion dollars in debt we are because they all fell all over themselves to approve any and every bit of legislation that bush proposed in spending.

    Oh and did I mention....republicans way to fix the economy...tax cuts for the rich...trickle down effect. Something the bull headed "leader of the republicans" insisted on and WHICH HAS NOT WORKED FROM THE BEGINNING. Those rich held on to every cent they could pilfer from the government.

    February 22, 2009 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  15. Deborah

    I am so insulted by commments like Dave's. I am white, 58 years old, have two degrees, live in a rural area, am a US citizen by birth, make about $100,000 per year, pay my taxes, never been to Hollywood, and voted for President Obama and will definitely work for him to win again in 2012. Keep that racist crap to yourself.

    February 22, 2009 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  16. Suzanne

    Those pompous, self-important, insulated, blustering, neoconservative, well-fed (witness Barbour's healthy pink jowls) southern Governors got themselves into a pickle by first, refusing en masse to support the stimulus bill, and now by realizing that if they refuse to accept part of the $$ for their states, they'll look like the out-of-touch ideological idiots they are.

    Come off your high horses, you guys, and remember who you're there to take care of. Otherwise, come election time, you and your cronies will all be looking at the unemployment roles on a first-hand basis, too.

    February 22, 2009 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  17. Texas Independent

    The governor is right. This stimulus bill is a mistake to begin with. It is a tax hike under the guise of "Economic Recovery and Investment". People forget that somebody has to pay for it. It's like charging on a credit card. Eventually the money will come due, and nobody is going to help out the American taxpayer.

    I wish Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) had the courage to turn down the cash. We're not running a deficit here in Texas. And we shouldn't be using the money to rebuilt the governor's mansion, either.

    February 22, 2009 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  18. mike

    The Governor of Mississippi his putting his own personal ambitions for the elections in 2010. However, he should put the people that our out of jobs and unemployed by the havoc placed on the economy by the greedy CEOs of so many companies. Please put the average, hard working people first for a change! Hopefully the good people of Mississippi will realize that the Republicans have kept their state down.

    February 22, 2009 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  19. tee

    Dave
    Since when are illegal allowed to vote. You are completly off base.
    Please do some research.

    February 22, 2009 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  20. george watson

    Same old same old from empty headed conservatives. Hello, wake-up, there *is* a crisis out there and something needs to be done, o "I only care about me" ones. The government has to step in because they've been asked to by banks, Detroit auto manufacturers and just about every other business person that's screwed things up, lo, these many years under their patron saint, George the Plunderer of the Public Purse. If something isn't done now – and the brainless businessmen who got us here, particularly the geniuses who first came up with the ARMs etc. and then forgot to vet those borrowing for credit – or did they? – are not the ones to come up with any creative solutions. In short, dumb conservatives your dear friend George has left us no recourse. (BTW, even he was resorting to federal bail outs in the end: this isn't a Democratic idea.) Wake up and smell the coffee, will you?

    February 22, 2009 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  21. MICK in MESA

    Leaking Depends: That’s how old, rich, southern Repuglicon obstructionists like Barbour define Trickle Down Economics that urge only tax cuts for the top 5% to solve any economic problem.
    It's at the heart of why his state is just one rung above the poverty levels found in most 3rd world countries.
    I feel sorry for the residents of ole' Miss...

    February 22, 2009 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  22. DT

    Frist off – this economic crisis was initiated by individual and corporate greed well before Bush took office. In fact, the preditory lending policies that are now driving the housing collapse were implemented by Clinton... So get your facts straight. As for this stimulus package, it does nothing to address the greater good of America. It is a bundled package of small Democratic programs and initiatives that push us further into a socialist economy.

    We are penalized for success... To put it simply... If I work hard at school for all As and another student is getting Cs and Ds... The rational is that I can afford to give up a couple of my As to balance the average, not taking into consideration all of the hard work that I put in to get all As...

    February 22, 2009 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  23. Susan

    It's all show-boating anyway...read the fine print of the package. The governors CAN'T reject the package...if they do the federal government has the right to override the governor and the package is accepted anyway. They're just trying to look tough...it's all about the votes.

    February 22, 2009 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  24. mike

    The Governor of Mississippi his putting his own personal ambitions ahead of the average people for the elections in 2010. However, he should put the people first who are of jobs and unemployed, which was caused by the greedy CEOs of so many companies. Please put the average, hard working people first for a change! Hopefully the good people of Mississippi will realize that the Republicans have kept their state down.

    February 22, 2009 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  25. sun

    finally what we knew all along is confirmed, the so called stimulus bill has little to do with economics and more to do with "feel-good" projects, Gov. Dal Patrick (D) summed it up nicely :

    "Certainly in Massachusetts, people want their roads repaired and want bridges repaired and want a clean energy strategy and alternatives and real alternatives and want us to be candid with them about those needs"

    February 22, 2009 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
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