WASHINGTON (CNN) – Carrie Prejean, the Miss USA contestant from California who famously declared her opposition to same sex marriage on the pageant stage, will star in a new $1.5 million ad campaign funded by the National Organization for Marriage.
Prejean was roasted by same-sex marriage advocates after she stood up for what she called "opposite marriage" (marriage between a man and a woman) when responding to a question from celebrity blogger Perez Hilton during the pageant. But she's also become a fresh-faced standard-bearer for the same-sex marriage opponents, who have rallied to her defense.
The National Organziation for Marriage has scheduled a press conference with Prejean in Washington on Thursday to unveil the new ad, called "No Offense."
"She is attacked viciously for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values," the group said in a press release. "But Carrie's courage inspired a whole nation and a whole generation of young people because she chose to risk the Miss USA crown rather than be silent about her deepest moral values."
According to the group, the ad will call "gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."
The Miss California TV ad is the group's second. Their first, called "A Gathering Storm," ran in several states earlier and featured actors issuing ominous warnings about the threats posed by same-sex marriage.
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because "A Gathering Storm" was so successful!? it was a joke and became a laugh stocking on the web. So Miss California, we're looking forward to laughing at YOU some more! what a joke! Intolerence for specific groups of people is enough reason to strip her crown!
What courage? And she didn't inspire a whole nation or a whole generation. Susan Boyle was much more inspirational on Britain's Got Talent.
Two words – Anita Bryant
And the Republicans STILL don't get it. Hello... anybody home in those noggins of yours? Continuing to push this mindset isn't gaining you anything. Are you there?
No...really!?!!!! I am shocked. After her response at Miss USA....no one could have foreseen this coming. Whatever.
maybe her, Sean Haggerty, Bill-O, and Rush can get together and sing songs and talk about the good-old days when we spent like kids and ran up our debt.
Sean Hannity.... what a joke of a man. I heard him on the radio yesterday and he is simply a joke.
Am I the only one amused by fact that the National Organization for Marriage is opposed to marriage (albeit gay marriage.)
Good for her. They ask her a question and she gives an honest answer. Then they roast her for her beliefs. Great media.
Lets all just get brainwashed in the hollywood mentality.
Politics, where people lie to get a head.
Pageant contestant speaks her mind when asked, and lays her politically incorrect convictions on the line, essentially throwing her shot at the title. Media response: She is lambasted for sticking to her guns and standing behind her beliefs.
Six term senator stops sticking his finger in the eye of those who voted for him for more than three decades by officially switching parties, stating his "convictions" forced him. Media response: "He's a man of integrity who stood up against others when it was not popular for him to do so."
Media Fail.
Integrity Fail.
Funny. I havent seen that ad in my area. Why? Because the zealots and haters know it's a waste of their money. Spend it where the people are white, christian, and hate anyone who isn't
Another bright idea by the party of no.
please ... please ... PLEASE TELL ME ... what are these so-called "consequences" of gay marriage!?!?!
why doesn't the National Organization for Marriage focus on the "consequences" of DIVORCE in heterosexual marriages?!?!?!
Like this is a big surprise!!!!!!! An idiot signing on with the morons.... makes sense to me!!! She is going to be the mauder for the conservative christian right which by the way is a sinking ship. Good luck Anita Bryant wannabe.
This shows how desperate the GOP's are. They are grasping at any straw they can get.
Well, of course! Get a glamorous looking agent to spout your diatribes and you get a "spokesmodel". Just hopes she doesn't become a "spooksmodel" as well!
On another note, I'm amused at how the conservatives use the word "risk" the Miss USA crown rather than be silent. It's an insult to those who "risk" their lives for this country from soldiers, to police, to fireman etc. She risked her crown....poor Miss California
It's the president's 100th day. Do we really want to hear about Miss California? She didn't win...move on CNN.
Haha! I can't WAIT to see the parodies for THIS ad!!!
You have had your 15 minutes of fame now its time to go away.
Soon she will be the GOP 2012 candidate...Lord have mercy.
Why don't just label this as a Anti-Gay ad.
Is this girls 15 minutes of fame up soon??? Getting very tired of hearing about her.
Hmmm...how long has it been since people voiced their opinions about their "deep moral beliefs" that women should not vote? How long has it been since it was deemed OK to voice your "deep moral beliefs" that black people are not equal???
I say go for it!! All the hateful Christians will continue to show off thier ugly colors, while talking out the other side of thier mouths. We need this....We as a country need Christians and Mormons and the like to continue to voice their hate for others...that way we all can see them for who they. Stop hiding behind your bibles....get out there and spend MILLIONS on hate ads so EVERYONE can see you for who you really are...and not that BS you preach!!
Good for her. We need more people like her to step up and defend marriage.
I watched the pagent live – in my opinion she was not denied the crown for what she said but because she stumbled over her answer. I am completely baffled as to what those who oppose same sex marriage are so afraid of.
Wow she's an idiot, she lives in california, one of the largest gay haven states and she's anti gay marriage. does she realize she will never be voted for in a cali again. Most men in those contests that vote are usually gay.
Prejean was roasted by same-sex marriage advocates after she stood up for what she called "opposite marriage" (marriage between a man and a woman)
well... maybe under the new hate crimes act she can sue the advocates... or have them jailed... since being roasted was hate based!
These new laws should be fun
consequences? threats?? like, what? their right to hate will be taken away?
The real issue is that Maggie and Peter of NOM want to lead the country to illegally discriminate against a minority group and have been very successful at their campaign.
Great, another stupid bimbo saying a bunch of crap that we dont care about. Keep your homophobic comments to yourself
Give me a break. What about her is REAL???? I'm banking on the fact that her teeth have been altered, her tan is fake, her hair color fake, and probably her breasts. But, she is a pinnacle for principles. GAG
I'm sorry that this little twerp is actually proud that she's a bigot.
Great! Conservatives have added another bimbo to their vocal collection. Next thing they will ask her to be their VP in 2012.
How desparate can the GOP get? How about staying out of the bedrooms and overseeing the boardrooms via checks and balances?
Oh goodness, it is one thing to stand up for your rights and beliefs, it is another entirely to stand up for discrimination and bigotry.
I wonder how this will go over and if the officials of the Miss California Pageant will have the b56ls to FIRE her.
Can't wait to see the new ad. Their first one was hilarious! What......you say it was supposed to be serious? Oops.
didn't anyone warn her that the gop will try to use her for there propaganda ads. Who the hell is her publicist?
It certainly does take courage to stand up and be divisionist and discriminatory...on national tv no less. While I agree that she's free to have her views, to me, to say that marriage is for only a man and a woman is borderline racist. She could have had some tact, and have been inclusive while being exclusive - but that would be too much work.
Good for her! Those who support quashing the first amendment so they can live their gay lifestyles are the real bigots.
OK, your fifteen minutes are up!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Too bad the same sex advocates have to get so vile when someone doesn't share their opinion. I personally don't care who wants to marry whom, but am really turned off by the way they handle a difference of opinion.
I'm sorry– I'm supposed to take a Miss America runner-up seriously? It's not like she won the competition. Maybe she should be a spokesperson for divorce.
I seriously doubt that when Ms. Prejean gave her answer that she thought she lost the crown , she is a bigot and closed minded , she gave the answer that she thought would win her the tittle . She is the next Anita Bryant , history will repeat itself , I suggest that Ms. Prejean study up on the life of Ms. Braynts Tyranical campaign to keep equal/civil right from the gay community and stop hiding behind her religion
I applaud Ms. Prejean for standing up for what she believes. This is a free country, and BOTH sides of the same-sex marriage issue should be able to air their views.
Good for her. Although I do not agree with her, but I applaud her courage to stand up for her belief.
The question should have never been asked at the pageant unless they really, really wanted her to give her honest opinion--after all, as I recall it was asking what she thought of same sex marriage.
As I see it, there is no freedom on speech in this country any longer, unless you agree with all the radicals and loonies. You can't practice your religion in public any longer, you can't even have a Bible on you and it be seen, and now you have to agree with Homosexuality, even if you don't. Our forefathers would not even recognize this country now.
"She is attacked viciously for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values," the group said in a press release. "But Carrie's courage inspired a whole nation and a whole generation of young people because she chose to risk the Miss USA crown rather than be silent about her deepest moral values."
Would this be similar to how gays are attacked physically for refusing to be silent about their deepest moral values?
Or is risking life less important than risking some hokey title bestowed on questionable, what some call beauty?
Where is her courage? Where is herinspiration? Where is her so-called beauty when willingly being apart of such ugliness?
Good for her. I'm happy to say that free speech is still alive and well today (though strained). I have no problem with gays having the same rights as all other Americans. However, I don't believe the government should take a religious institution like marriage and turn it into a government defined, government run institution.
"gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."
Ummm, don't all marriage have consequences? For that matter, all human relationships have consequences. For that matter, all relationships in the most general context have consequences.
I has been my experience that there are many "conventional" marriages that are horrendous, that cause grave harm to the individuals, their relatives, and society in general. And that their are many gay marriages, that are fundamentally sound, helping society in general.
The problem is the religious connotations of the word marriage. Personally, I feel that those advocating gay marriage, which I am for, need to let go of a word. In doing so, they will bring about equality much quicker than trying to fight religion.
Don't we have more important things to do than to worry over who is marrying who?
Its called priorities people, get some.
An interesting question – did she suffer a greater back-lash from the same-sex supporters than she would have from the "opposite marriage" supporters had she supported the former? What happened to freedom of speech in our country; especially when it comes to feelings that some may consider "politically incorrect" or "culturally insensitive"? The young lady stands by what she believes in – good for her. What's really interesting is that there are those who will bash me for saying that, without knowing my personal feelings about same-sex marriage; only that I support her freedom to say what she believes. Ignorance is alive and well in the United States.
Thank God straight marraige has absolutely no consequences! Nope. Not a one. None whatsover.
Get a clue Carrie Prejean.
3 cheers for you, Miss California!
What a stupid turn of events. Normally I enjoy Perez's rants but his this last time was out of bounds. I love my gay friends and wish they the same rights as all the other people in this country but I agree that Miss Cali was only stating her opinion which was what she was being asked to do. So to all those that ganged up on her... give it a rest. Why don't we try working and talking to people instead of alienating them. Good job making our side look like jerks Perez! Thanks a bunch.
... and to all those out there opposed to gay rights... well I think your wrong but I'll keep my discussions person to person and convince you one at a time that tradition and old morals are no reasons for keeping one set of people down.
Mason
I respect anyones personal views, however when Miss Prejean becomes a spokesperson for a particular group – then her right to privacy and personal respect is cast aside.
In America – all taxpayers should be treated equally.
I see no threat to my marriage because 2 people of the same sex want to be married. And the Church??? Well when they start paying taxes then I'll listen to what they have to say.
Carrie merely stated her own personal opinion, which I believe is what she was asked to do. You may not agree with it, but please don't attack her as a person for what she was taught to value. I wish that we could all discuss our personal views without taking offense every time someone doesn't share it. Especially when they disagree in a respectful manner, as Carrie did.
Interesting that the National Organization for Marriage commends Miss Prejean for "her truth and her values." By definition, TRUTH is universal, and does not change for individuals. Therefore, perhaps Miss Prejean's truth and her values are incongruous. Secondly, what are the consequences of gay marriage?
The issue of gay marriage comes down to whether one accepts that homosexuality is a natural part of human life. If one does there is no reason why gay marriage is unreasonable. If one can't accept the dignity and legitimacy of homosexual people, then (and without logic) it's easy to stand in the way.
"the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."
Actually, it doesn't affect you AT ALL...the right-wing hate mongers, now THEY are the ones that really affect us....
Quick.... Name as many Miss Americas, with the exception of Vanessa Williams as you can...... yep, that's exactly how important that title is......
Hold your head high Carrie. We are all proud of you!!
Ahhhhh another Joe the Plumber
The "gathering storm" ad was a hoot! Thanks! I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. But seriously, there is nothing to be admired in Prejean's "values or truths." She is simply another air head bigot. She refers to heterosexuals who marry as "opposite marriage." What the he** does that mean? And by the way, there are "consequences" to all marriages, half which end in divorce. I wish someone could come up with a LOGICAL reason for denying gay men and women the federal rights afforded by marriage. Or do you simply "choose' not to see both sides of the issue. "Threats posed by same-sex marriage" Please... there are more threats posed by the Catholic church.
just proves that she wasn't fit to be Ms.America...that title goes to a women that represents ALL AMERICANS,not just a few with narrow views on reality....
The "Gathering Storm" ad I saw held absolutely no information "about the threats posed by same-sex marriage." Just a lot of people who don't like the idea standing in front of an "ominous" background. I just don't understand why this is such an issue when there are plenty of things that are legal but are unacceptable in religion. When are they going make it illegal to "covet your neighbour’s wife, or male or female slave" (Exodus 20:2–17)?
Bigotry is not a "value"
What a sad day for the U.S. The whole world let out a sigh of relief when President Obama was elected. After years of being governed by President Bush, the U.S. finally made a huge step forward however with this ad campaign it's all undone. The legalization of same-sex marriage is long overdue. Miss California should not use her crown to promote a belief that empedes the granting of the right to same-sex marriage. Would you crown someone who didn't want world peace?
the latest in a long line of the absolute nothingness the GOP has to offer. no wonder they're wandering aimlessly.
and make no mistake - Karl Rove is still giving the party its talking points and marching orders.
This is such a waste of money. No one cares what this young lady has to say. While I do not believe in same-sex marriage, who is to say this lady would have won in any case.
"...... unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."
What consequences? That bigots who give foolish answers (paraphrase: freedom of choice is great, what a wonderful country, but YOU don't get to choose) lose pageants?
Isn't that like saying the consequence of racial equality is that racists get marginalized? Or sexual harassment laws have been tough on misogynists in the workplace?
I am also glad that a young individual is willing to speak her mind publicly on an issue that has, interestingly enough to me, become so controversial. Convictions should always be respected on both sides of an issue–and when a contrary opinion is expressed, it should not automatically be called hate-speech or, in this case, homophobic.
Good for her!~ I am glad she is not being bullied by the liberals. Stand up for what you believe in.
These groups have no legal basis for their position, and they are unable to debate the legal consequences of their actions. The Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virgina that marriage is a "fundamental civil right". They cited that the Constitution forbids states from making laws that take rights away from citizens. Bans on gay marriage clearly violate the Constitution. Our laws aren't based on the Bible, they are based on the Constitution.
Just as everyone is entitled to their own beliefs ~ Those for same sex mariages & those who are not ~ Miss Prejean is & was entitled to speak up for her personal beliefs when asked a personal direct question ~ Because she did not answer what Mr Perez deemed "his" personal befiefs ~ Miss Prejean was unfairly ridiculed & blasted inappropriately by Mr. Perez ~ I was raised & believe as Miss Prejean does ~ It is a personal choice ~ That does not mean I would look "down" on those who do not share my beliefs ~ Shame on Mr. Perez & those who would unjustly judge those who are for or against ~same sex marriages ~ Respectfully ~ Sharon Robison ~ California
"slams gay marriage"? How does CNN know if the ad hasn't even been made yet. Yes it is going to be opposed to it but why does opposition have to be slamming. Like Mr. Cafferty's article yesterday, we can't have a dialogue on these issues. It has to be hate and division.
wow.. i thought these "contestants" were just pretty, empty vessels. i'm glad to see one going out on a limb to personally spill their ignorance.. now THAT's entertaining!
It wasn't "opposite marriage" that she stood up for, it was traditional marriage. A little proofreading can go a long way.....
Well let's see– the GOP/right wing now has an alternative to Sarah Palin. And this girl appears to be smarter and more articulate... and she's definitely better looking. But hello GOP/right wing– have you vetted the lady?? You just never know what kind of skeletons you might find in a person's closet (cough, cough, Sarah Palin). I hope Ms. Prejean is ready to be vetted by the press, because you can't step up and try to be a big shot in the media and not expect a little digging into your past.
And isn't it just a bit pathetic that the best these ultra conservative groups can come up with are people who suddenly become "famous" for some single remark in a 15 second sound bite (Joe the Plumber & now Ms Prejean) rather that someone who actually has a resume with some experience & qualifications???
"If my marriage is a threat to your marriage-perhaps you need to concentrate on YOUR marriage".
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!
but now I'm glad she is not representing the U.S.
Sure, there will be consequences. Positive ones. What's the problem?
This woman "knows" that sex between a man and woman cannot be better. Gays are jealous of the satisfaction she receives.
The Communist are speaking!!!!!!! Hail EL RUSHBO!!!!!
Oh wonderful, we are now paying people to be hatemongers. So what are the differences between Miss California, a hatemonger and a terrorist? NONE! They all discriminate because someone is different from them!
Ms. Prejean is entitled to her opinion about this or any other issue, and she shouldn't be attacked to for stating it honestly. Clearly, there are decent people on both sides of the gay marriage issue, as there are on the issue of abortion. If you're the old-fashioned type and hold a narrow, traditional definition of the institution of marriage, it's pretty clear where you stand. Those on the other side of the issue– on the wrong end of the legal issue– see it as yet another attempt to marginalize them as people and relegate them to second class citizens. What's missing from this equation is sensibility and fairness. Legalizing same-sex marriage will not force Ms. Prejean to change her views on the issue. She can live out her life exactly as she sees fit. However, her point of view impacts others who feel equally entitled to the same personal happiness. Ms. Prejean doesn't seem to realize or care that her stand on this issue would compel people who don't feel the same way to live by her personal rules, despite their heavy emotional impact on them. This makes her appear unsympathetic, dogmatic and incredibly selfish. (Notice I left out the word bigoted).
Given the response of gay groups to Miss. CA, I think you could classify Gay and Lesbian groups as hate organizations. They are certainly much less tolerant than those they decry as being intolerant.
Intolerance is not a moral value.
If you don't believe in gay marriage, don't marry someone who's gay. Problem solved. Next question.
I don't really see what the big deal was about what she said. I disagree with her stance, but she was asked a question and she answered it, and it's not all that controversial a stance. I think it's ignorant, but plenty of people have the same ignorant opinion. And the judge's later temper-tantrum about it was shameful and embarrassing, and he didn't do himself any good with that.
I'm not sorry she's not Miss USA, though, because I've since seen interviews with her, and she's not very bright. On CNN the other night she started EVERY sentence she said with "You know what..." You can check it on YouTube if you doubt it. I kept thinking "Surely she won't say it again..." but she did. She was also self-absorbed: "You know what, we really need to focus on me..." I don't think she's all that pretty, either... she's got big clown teeth that HAVE to be fake.
In this new comercial will she provide just one single reason that will pass constitutional review as to why gay couples shouldn't be allowed to get married?...maybe just one?
"She is attacked viciously for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values,"
really...you know that is all the KKK and the skin heads say they are doing...standing up for their truths and values. Odd that in 2009 people are still getting treated in such a way under the guidelines of values.
Funny that this is running on the ticker the same day as the story about the hate crimes bill.
They call themselves The National Organziation for Marriage. Yet this is the only thing they are doing. Trying to stoop gay marriage. If they really were an organization for marriage, wouldn't they be doing something to keep marriages together, decrease the number of divorces and single parent families? I've called and asked them able this. This is their only cause. To stop gay marriage...why, because they simple don't like it.
I am so very proud of Miss California.Way to go Girl! You are courageous & stedfast. You may have lost a crown on earth but certainly not in heaven! I am so sorry you were set up with a loaded question like that.Perhaps they will screen all questions from now on to not allow such questions to be asked.I am thankful your parents taught you right from wrong and you did not turn from your beliefs when the time came! I wish you the best this life has to offer!
First of all, she's from California.
Next, she's blonde.
And last she say's, in her country, which is where,
I didn't know California was a country.
If all these bozo's read the bible they wouldn't be
judgeing other's.
haven't people realized yet that gays are here to stay and this issue isn't going anywhere either? kinda reminds me of the salem witch trials. get off of your soap boxes – jeez – in the end we will get what we want.
How very refreshing to see that someone is standing up for moral values in this current day of "do whatever feels good ".
It's nice to see someone with a backbone. Which is more than I can say about the White House.
This article states, "According to the group, the ad will call "gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences.""
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Why is it that these groups that are the supposed defenders or heterosexual marriage can never state what the "consequences" are? What are they? I've heard for years about these consequences but I've never heard what they might be.
"According to the group, the ad will call "gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."
And what are those consequences? I don't get it, and the mere fact that this group states that there are consequences to same-sex marriage is the exact reason that those of us who support same-sex marriage choose not to debate the "subject" with them. The REAL issue is equal rights. Why are they unwilling to debate that?
How is it, that blatantly admitting you have a bias is courageous? Are they kidding? She "inspired" only those who already have closed minds. I am a teacher of high schoolers and we've discussed this at great length. Their unanimous concensus is disappointment and sadness for what is clearly ingorance and intolerance. I am so proud of them!
Ok, Miss California, let's debate the real issue. Beauty queens are bred to be monolithic morons.
My heart bleeds for Prejean and all the downtrodden, oppressed conservatives in the US.
They're victims and they deserve our sympathy.
Attention NOM, what consequences? Seriously, please show us empirically what consequences marriage equality will have besides the expansion of civil rights. You have years of data to draw from in Mass, and will soon have much more data to draw from in many other states.
But you don't want to talk about empirical reality, do you? Because that is an argument you cannot win, just as all opponents of equality and civil rights before you.
You are the slave owners, women's vote opponents, and ERA dissenters of our generation. You are on the wrong side of history just as these racists and misogynists before you. And you deserve the harsh judgement that is forthcoming.
You have already lost, get out of the way.
If you want to parade inclusiveness ... that also includes opposing viewpoints. Its funny to see groups preaching inclusiveness to become so non-inclusive and downright mean when encountering different views.
This must be the stupidest ad ever. How does this show "gay marriage has [bad] conequences"?
That's like saying that "racial equality has bad consequences" because people who speak out against the right to racial equality might find themselves shunned.
If Ms. Prejean had suffered consequences from a government body or public school beacuse of her beliefs she would have been wronged and I would feel sorry for her. But sorry Ms. Prejean, the private Miss USA organization can set its own "values" and has no obligation to allow your free speach.
Congratulations America! We have our 21st century Anita Bryant. Hope it works out the same for her as it did for Anita.
that vacuous tart is the perfect spokesperson (sic) for "opposite marriage" and such like.
can't wait to see what john stewart and stephen colbert do with this ad...
she is one of those women i would count on during times of adversity.you cant sell your morals for miss america crown.everyone knows that gay marriage and homosexuality is wrong.soon people will advocate for absolute rights including rape or having sex in the puplic as long as it doesnt bother anyone.today they passed a stupid bill about hate crime speech and jesus was living today,he would be the first person to be thrown to jail for condemning evil.
She is just another village idiot from the GOP (Gay Old Party). This is from a straight man whom what use to be a republican until the last 8 years no more Jim Hall Kansas City Missouri.
Congratulations for having the courage to state your convictions on a national stage. It's time we all stood up for what we believe in.
Good for Miss California!
Freedom of speech is a two way avenue.
Gay marriage advocates can not go out asking for people to respect their rights when they are not giving the same respect to anyone who speak up and stand for their values and beliefs.
You can support or oppose gay marriage and debate the issue with the maximum respect that everyone’s opinion deserve.
Respect others if you want to have the same in return.
Hope CNN will post this.
Maybe she should study up on the history of other anti-gay beauty queens, say like Anita Bryant before she gets used by the jesus people.
I think Miss CA is entitled to her own opinion as we all are and people should not be attacking her. That being said, this group, the NOA is spreading falsehoolds and fear. Yes there are consequences to gay marriage NOA: equality, over 1000 federal rights granted to same sex partners and their families (which include their children) and happiness and freedom for everyone. Feel free to have your own opinions. Please do not feel free to tell gay people they can't have equal rights based on your opinions.
another nobody to try and takes away others rights. She should just shut up- her day is over
Whatever happened to world piece and flubbing questions like all of the other contestants. We don't need more republican "noise" spouting conservative causes.
Ms California didn't get the crown because her overall placement wasn't enough to win, not solely because of how she chose to answer the question about same sex marriage.
That whole issue aside, I hope people will realize that her uneducated and grammatically incorrect answer made her appear even more rediculous than her actual stance on the issue (that we can choose between "opposite marriage" and same sex marriage in this country, which is not true at all since the Defense Of Marriage Act gives no federal recognition to same sex marriage).
The stone cold reality is that her call for media attention makes her look more like a sore loser than anything else.
//According to the group, the ad will call "gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."//
Sure it has consequences, like encouraging long-term meaningful relationships and discouraging discrimination against gay people.
What are the so-called negative consequences? No matter how loud or how often the religious right tries to convince the American people that gay marriage is one step on a slippery slope towards bestiality and Satan worship, that just doesn't ring true to a majority of Americans.
I'm a democrat who opposes gay marriage. But I don't appreciate the fact that the right wing is using Ms. California to make this out to be a huge political issue.
You have to look at the context of the whole thing... this is just the kind of thinking I would expect from a beauty pageant contestant. 'Nuff said.
Just goes to show that you can be pretty, but still be mean and ignorant.
Nothing like capitalizing on your fifteen minuets of fame to help further bigotry... CA should be 'proud'.
i wonder if this commercial will be as much of a joke as the "gathering storm" commercials.
"i'm not a doctor who was forced to compromise his values in order to practice medicine, but i play one on television"
I would applaud her if she was really risking her crown for her moral convictions however if you listened to her you would realize she did not have a clue what she was saying. Just repeating a standard reheased answer.,
Anita Bryant, part deux...
Carrie Prejean is an American hero who epitomizes what it should mean to be Miss America – kudos to her for speaking the truth and showcasing her moral and religious values in an open and honest way.
s for the Miss America Pageant and their idiot host, Perez Hilton, he is everything that is wrong about America. Perez should be ashamed of his behavior, and he should never again be allowed anywhere near the Pageant. I also suggest that the Pageant change its title to "Miss America for Gays and Lesbians Only and Not For Christians Holding Religious Beliefs"
The NOM's lies are disgusting and I cannot believe anyone would be stupid enough to trust them. If it were up to them, gay people would not only be losing their rights, but their lives (just look at how they're trying to stop the Matthew Shepard Act from passing). This group's days are numbered. If you look at the stats, in just 4 years the support for gay marriage has gone up roughly 9 percentage points. Just think where we'll be in another 4!
I refuse to listen to any words that follow, "no offense" or "not to sound racist". It means that the person saying those words intend to cause offense or a racist remark. I would have respected her opinion had she said she feels the way she does for religious reasons. Isn't that what this argument against same-sex marriage is all about anyway?
Miss California does indeed have a right to her own opinion and viewpoint but, as a representative of a larger group, she also must
have tolerance for other individuals and their rights.
Our constitution promises us ALL, not just select groups to certain rights and I find it very disconcerting, that some of our citizens have decided to campaign, Not for rights but, against the rights of others.
Many of the people that are against marriage for gay people, are from other countries and "escaped" to our country because our constitution
provides us with the freedom to worship freely and to live without fear of persecution. These same people are more than eager to deny their fellow citizens their consitutional rights. How very ironic!
I am embarrassed that fellow citizens are "fighting" to restrict the rights of other citizens. This is not the America I love.
The anti-gay whackos are no better than the segregationists of old.
Wish they'd get a clue, but it'll probably take another generation to die off 1st.
Gays don't "hurt" you or your marriage any more interracial marriage.
This is largely a false issue based on faulty religious beliefs, namely blind faith in the literal word of the bible.
I think Miss CA should wear a burkah.
Maybe she can explain how the "gay storm" is coming, and that two people marrying each other at the statehouse and living their private lives could somehow affect heterosexual marriage. Oh, and then she can explain how the State can't make religious institutions marry gay couples, and that this organization uses scare tactics that are pathetic and overtly discriminatory. Maybe Ms. CA can tell us all about that stuff.
And just what are those 'threats'?
If loving gay couples want to enter into a legally binding union that grants them the same privileges that it does a hetero couple, then let them have it.
Sheesh, why shouldn't they be as miserable as the rest of us!
And what exactly are the 'consequences of gay marriage' anyway? I saw that first ad they ran and it only tried to inject fear, it didn't provide any facts. Really they are just trying to say 'We are religious and our God doesn't like that.'
"gay marriage has consequences"
That same old argument just doesn't hold water.
"The real issue: gay marriage has consequences". That's what advocates of equal marriage are fighting for! Consequences like: shared insurance benefits, being able to see a spouse in the hospital, being able to jointly file taxes, etc etc. Those are the consequences that people who pursue "opposite marriages" should receive, not just a 'civil union' piece of paper that officially establishes them as 2nd class citizens.
50 years ago, Miss California and her supporters may have very well said that inter-racial marriages "have consequences" and warned voters of the threats posed by it. It doesn't mean that they would have been right then either.
It's amazing when someone who represents the majority view of our nation - including our Democratic President - is attacked by most media for not lying about her convictions when asked a yes/no question.
I hope this serves to let more people see that the whole gay marriage thing is not about rights; it's a political move. A large amount of gay people themselves are against gay marriage.
I hope that miss Prejan address the issue of child health,poverty,education,and illiteracy and pay attention to her education .Its not every American that will make it in life like the Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh when they could not educated themselves by dropping out of college for whatever reason and instead of educating youths on the needs of education, they are busy espousing consevative values that tend to divide this country.
Miss California lost because hate is ugly.
Why would people be so mad at her... because she stood up for her values people need to realize you can oppose gay marriage too, i my self will never be OK with same sex marriage 1. its not natural 2. it has been shown to lead to more problems then the average natural marriage. Think about this man and women can reproduce naturally however with same sex male or female couple they have to see a doctor to be able to reproduce think about it....
If the real issue is that "gay marriage has consequences", then why can't anyone state what the real negative consequences are?
I'm curious about these so called *ominous warnings* about the *consequences* of gay marriage...Right now...as you sit at your computer and eat dinner with your family and go to the park with your kids, gay people are living together and raising families together, sending their kids to your kids schools, and watching movies, listening to music, shopping at the mall together....even proclaiming their love for each other in ceremonies much like the one my heterosexual husband and I had 20 years ago...and it is NOT affecting YOUR life in any way, shape or form!!!
It's been going on since the beginning of time and it NEVER had ANY impact on YOUR life. Why is that any different now?
Why don't you start concerning yourself with the 60% divorce rate between heterosexual couples in America...Especially among those who consider themselves Evangelical Christians who have a 25% HIGHER divorce rate than those left wing liberal Democrats.
The problem wasn't what she said, it was how she said it - she sounded like an idiot (what is "opposite marriage"??) and didn't answer the question posed to her. She didn't lose the crown because she opposes same-sex marriage, she lost because what she said didn't make any sense.
So long as you have the Mormons willing to send you $20m every time same sex marriage comes on the ballot you have nothing to worry about. With 668 people on death row at $90,000 a year for each one and octomom, you Californians really have your priorities straight.
She's guilty of "same-sex" every time she takes time-out to pleasure her narcissistic self. In fact, she's so enamored with herself, I'm sure she'd marry herself if she could. How would that rate with the righteous, ranting, raving, right-wing hypocrytes???
Miss C.Prejean has been provoked with "politically correct" or incorrect question by Perez Hilton and still gave a polite answer. I did not see anything offensive or ugly in her explanation but very rude and ugly answer by Perez.
Are we not allowed in this day and age to express our position when questioned. Is this a new norm in "democracy" or did we all gone
bananas?????
So the homophobic bigots who are against gay marriage choose this empty-headed nitwit to be their spokesperson? Wow, that is brillant! How about worrying about real problems like poverty, gun violence, heath-care, jobs, etc. and stop obsessing about what other people who wish to make a life-long commitment to another person is doing? How does it affect your life one iota what other people do in their lives? I am just baffled by the religous right and those who oppose gay marriage. If you don't want to marry someone of your own sex, then don't. Otherwise worry about yourself and the real problems this country faces!
I would be more than willing to debate the consequences of gay marriage. I have asked for any single rational reason why gay people should not get married and have yet to recieve nothing in response. The closest I get is because it's not marriage (nor really rational) or the Bible says it's wrong (which would be OK if I lived in a theocracy).
I am proud of Miss California for speaking the truth..God created this world to produce life.. and that is what same sex marriages can not do. If you are honest you know in your heart same sex marriages is wrong.. is not your intelligence higher than animals... you do see animals of the same sex trying to produce.
Last time I checked, bigotry and prejudice were not desirable values to be had by anyone. She spoke out on "her values"? C'mon, gimme a break! She is a bigot, plain and simple!
She is pathetic. I have no idea why people are threatened by two people who love eachother being together – these opponents need to tackle some real issues, war, hunger, poverty, etc..... I also don't think God cares.
What the heterosexual marriage advocates fail to mention is that gay-marriage advocates are only standing up for their rights to live life as an equal member of society. It was the heterosexual marriage advocates who demeaned gays, made them a second class citizen, and attacked them first. Rather than talk about the real issues facing marriage today (i.e. divorce rates in excess of 50%, single-family homes, parents failing to pay child support, TV-marriage shows/jokes), they'd rather attack gays. This is America, and the 14th Amendment still applies–"equal protection" under the law.
Well, it burns me that Hilton and Smoakler can participate as professionals in a business setting and then tear Ms. California apart for answering honestly a question which was posed to her during the show. Hilton and Smoakler are unprofessional, period.
Then she gets hammered in the press by the extreme, left liberal groups for not conforming to what they want pushed across all states law books about same sex marriages. Frankly, I think if a homosexual couple want to have the same misery, divorce, pay alimony as heterosexual couples–by all means, Allow them the privelege of joining the national club of having 1 in 2 marriages end in divorce. Why shouldn't homosexual couples be as miserable as heterosexual couples????
Donald Trump are we now turning the Miss USA pageant into a religious free for all. It is sickening the way this country's religious bigots jump on every little thing to try to take away rights, IF IN THEIR TINY LITTLE MINDS don't agree. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
This country should show these bigots that we are sick and tired of their SICK LITTLE BRAINS. Miss California included. She has a right to her own opinion, but to be a public figure she should think before she speaks. Or is she a female rush the oxy one.
Good for her! Let's see how much "tolerance" and "choice" the dumbocrats will have on this.
How cute that the religious right has a new hero. They certainly love their beauty queens, don't they. However, isn't there a bit of irony in Miss California stating her "deepest religious and moral beliefs" moments after strutting around in a bikini so brief that it would make even Arnold Scwarzenegger blush? She and the other contestants performed a dance routine that was more akin to stripping, wearing bikinis covered only by a sheer cloth acting as a miniskirt. Now, I'm no prude, and I like seeing women in bikinis as much as the next guy, but is that really ok with conservative Christians? Is this really the role model they want for their daughters. I guess anyone is suitable as long as they are against gay marriage, even women who advertise themselves like prime cuts of meat in front of a national audience.
How does Pre gean know she would have won without her answer? Miss Carolina is a gorgeous young lady and all this whining takes away from her victory.
Prejean rates right up there with the sore losers like Coleman!!
"Gay marriage has consequences?"
What exactly, pray tell?
I mean, aside from the barely comprehensible babblings of a beauty queen runner up?
this lady stood up and spoke her deepest beliefs and values. She did the right thing. Gay marriage is sick and it is being supported by all the sickos. Wake up America, time to stand for what you believe in and what is right!
I have never understood conservative's obsession with sex.
Even given that, they should understand that the concept of morality and sin starts and stop with thier own thoughts and behavior.
I fail to see how someone else's personal choices affect them, or why they should even have any justification to attack others.
They are free to live life as they see fit, and should let others do the same.
That is the true foundation of a free society.
I do not know the nation or world they desire, but I doubt that most of us would choose to live there.....
Honestly, if all the right-wing nuts worried more about their own marriages and stayed out of other people's lives, we'd live in a far better society. Same-sex marriage is no threat to opposite-sex marriage. Let's focus on some real issues in this country.
It's great that she had such an opportunity with the Miss USA pageant to broadcast her "deepest moral values," like her barely-clothed body enhanced by plastic surgery. WWJD?
Who actually cares what Miss California thinks for says? The majority of people in this country favor same sex legal unions, and why not? If two people can love and live together successfully, what is there to fault?
Um...what consequences? Bad parenting, single-parents, divorce, neglect, abuse or unchristian values? Oh yeah, those.
Those consequences can happen, and do, in families with both a mother and father.
If nothing else, conservatives should get back to their roots and let the states decide. Don't like so-called "activist-courts"? Then at least have the decency and humility to say "Vermont got it right."
It's about time people stated standing up for what they really believe in insead of just trying to be politically correct. I, for one, am very proud of her. I don't care how he asked the question and she did notreally answer the question I am still so proud of her for standing up for what is right.
"normal" marriage doesn't have consequences?
Does Ms. Prejean's "deepest moral values" include strutting on stage in front of camera's in a skimpy bikini? I'd love to hear Ms. Prejean explain the consequences that gay marriage has, and what affect it would have on her future marriage(s)
You'd think they'd find a better way to spend their money (i.e feed the hungry)
it's about time someone stood up for christian values. And why is same sex marriage being shoved down the throat of every american as correct when gays only make up a small population vote.
Ha, ha. Add that ditz to the already long line of Republican ditzes like Palin and Bachmann, to push your agenda and see how far in the hole you can go. BTW, what are the "consequences" of gay marriage? Probably not as bad as Republican Senator Larry Craig's "wide stance". Ha, ha, you fools – you got nothing.
I applaud her for standing up for what she believes in. The Gay community must understand not everyone is or has to feel the way they do about same sex unions. As a Christian I too believe it is a man and a woman that makes a true marriage. I do not hate gays or wish them harm, but just because they choose to believe that what they do is ok does not mean we all have to believe it. You go Miss
California!
She's an inarticulate moron. What kind of Christian judges others, dedicates their life to participating in pageants, and has fake breasts?
Good for her. She's my Miss USA.
I hope she will be denouncing all Adulterers as well ( people who have been divorced ) since the vows seem to say "till death do us part ". Or does that part of the vows not count for the organization she represents? And if asked during the contest, her view on divorce ( adultery) would she have labeled all divorced people adulterers? If she is being so honest in her beliefs....or would that have offended too many people. I wonder.....
I'm so glad that the National Organization for Marriage has found such a highly credible spokesperson widely respected for her intelligence and her ability to grasp complex social issues.
So, let's see. She is thought to represent moral values – ""But Carrie's courage inspired a whole nation and a whole generation of young people because she chose to risk the Miss USA crown rather than be silent about her deepest moral values."
So, if her moral values are so great, how is she inspiring young people by objectifying women, and by getting implants because she wasn't good enough as is?
So sad when bigotry gets masqueraded as Values....She,s entitled to her opinion ,...just make peace with the fact that she is a Bigot.
who didn't see that coming?
I'm curious as to what the consequences to society this group wants to debate?
Hey! Let's make the beauty queen the Gov of Alaska and then she can sink another Presidential election!
It is sad that we have become a nation that condems a person who is honest and expresses their opinion. I would rather have a Miss CA or Miss America who is honest than one who will lie to get ahead.
Well that does not surprise me. The Republicans are looking for leaders in the darndest of places...think back to where Joe the Plumber materialized...seems now it is Miss California's turn to pump up the Republicans. I just can't wait to see who and/or what is next.
The Repub idealogues won't let go of the 3 Gs, Guns, God and Gays.
*We are not 'scurred' of the 3Gs anymore. Well they had Caribou Barbie so now it is Catalina Barbie's turn.
Finally a group which stands up for conservative rights rather than a group which USED to be a minority. This is a refreshing to know that people who still have values are allowed to take a stand for what they believe in without being harrassed by ignorant support groups which typically do not know 50% of the facts about what they are supposed to be supporting!
Go Carrie..........WILL YOU MARRY ME?!?!?!
We should probably thank everyone (on both sides) who has behaved so poorly with respect to this whole situation for helping re-affirm that beauty is only skin deep.
That being said, I'd like to see their list of "consequences" that are relevant to the prospect of this being a matter of SECULAR law and their facts and empirical evidence that back them up. What's that? They don't have any and just want to say "we'll all be turned into pillars of salt"? Well...back to the drawing board for them I suppose.
Bigotry and Beauty Queens. One does have to ask, Doesn't that Bible that Miss Prejean is so fond of, say something about not bearing false witness? And speaking of bearing false witness, what do you think Jesus would say about those huge FAKE BREASTS of hers? God did NOT make her that way. False Witness (that's one of the big 10).
Joe the Plumber, you have been replaced!
The Republicans know good cartoons when they find them!
This is America and if they did not want her to answer the question they should not have asked. This is her opinion and she has a right to it. So leave the young woman alone. I may not agree but, certainly respect her rights to say what she would like to say and not go along with any program.
My question: What are the so-called "consequences" of gay marriage?
Spreading hate has consequences too, Carrie Prejean.
I applaud this girl for her courage. Contrary to popular belief one does not have to have religious reasons for opposing gay marriage. And stop referencing racism when it comes to comparing the issue of gay marriage; Being gay is simply a lifestyle.
I guess this will have Perez turning on his rainbow. I guess he will pout and stomp his feet calling people bad names. He should be sent to the closet without supper.
And her values are? Ok, this is what I don't get. What does any religious organization have to do with civil marriages? Because I think most religions are just cults that made good, is my marriage of 30 years void? Separation of church and state? Aren't we done with the right-wing vicious people YET?
Homosexuality is a perversion, plain and simple. And to then warp the acceptance of that pervsion in to a right to marry is taking it way too far. Thank you, Miss California for standing up for your beliefs.
While I applaud Miss CA for speaking her mind I hardly think it qualifies her for celebrity status(or demon status either). The people who demonized her for voicing a personal opinion are as radicalized as those who now want to make her an icon of virtuous values as the neo-cons define them.
This silliness needs to stop and we need to return to civil dialogue to solve the monumental issue of our time
I think we all could learn a lesson from her. I believe every word of the Bible and sin is sin. It's time for Believers to stand for the right things; especially in this day and time when what is wrong is seen as right and what is right is seen as wrong or "politically incorrect"........
Carrie Prejean and The National Organziation for Marriage have an entire right to their opinion, as do anyone else who supports this view. However, I am a heterosexual man who when I heard lyrics from The Smiths song "How Soon Is Now" many years ago I determined homosexuality and same sex marriage is completely justified. The lyrics are..."So shut your mouth...How can you say I go about things the wrong way? I am human and I need to be loved just like everybody else does." In essence, who are you to decide for someone else what they think and feel...and everyone is deserving of love. Until there is civil rights and equality for ALL there is no civil rights and no equality, and, we as a people can not claim to be civilized. Thank you for enlightening me Morrissey.
Gee, what a great spokeswoman for a 1/2 gay state.
That's right the "tolerance" crowd has been viciously attacking her since Perez Hilton, an internet smut dealer, asked her a politically loaded question and she gave an honest answer.
Sexist, self-described "liberals" call her a bubble-headed barbie doll (and worse) and begin their pilloring of her for standing up for her beliefs in 3...2..1...
Prejean lost because bigotry is ugly. Her 15 will be up soon.
"hell have no fury like woman's scorn" Good for Miss Carrie Prejean for standing up for what she believes. I see so many people change their opinion to avoid confrontation I hope she becomes the face of Marriage just because that guy tried to viciously attack her and her dreams to public get his point across. To me she is Miss USA and if she ran again she would get my vote instantly. I never watched the contest because I always thought of the pageant as a bunch of shallow, airheaded, uneducated yet extremely hot women. But I can see how wrong I was. I would honestly like to shake her hand.
Who the heck cares! She has a right to her opinion, others have a right to theirs. But standing opposite each other and brandishing your ideals declaring the opposition is wrong and, and, and, so there! This doesn't work and everyone knows it. Whatever happened to civility, the belief in a human soul and it's worth regardless of sexual orientation, as long as laws are not being broken that is. Here is a fundamental question that needs to be answered, why can't the same sexes be married? What would that destroy that we currently have? More love? More peace? Good parents (yes gays can be)? Family? Let's do something radical, let's be tolerant. Our views, individually, aren't always right, and often collectively either, just remember slavery and how we got that wrong. So I challenge everyone to be tolerant, to get on with living and loving life....chill.
This idiot woman is no Christian. She was parading around onstage in A BIKINI for the sake of VANITY, in front of the nation. How highly sexualized! Are you kidding me?! In what world is she a "devout Christian"? Perez was right with his evaluation of her "A dumb *****"
If she were brought up to believe that blacks should not be allowed to marry whites, would that be OK?
It is one thing to voice your opinion and stick to it. It is another thing to begin campaigning and accepting money to do so, for something that you believe but you were not an advocate for until you were asked and given money! I don't like beauty pageants or beauty queens or anything they stand for. I've been in them at an early age and I've never met so many ignorant people associated with any one group...well except when it comes to religious organizations!
This is one sad conservative.....it is a shame that the true winner of the MS. USA contest is pushed out of the lime light by this right wing wack job....
So exactly what are the "threats" posed by same-sex marriage? I am wracking my brain trying to think of a single one.
I hope the ad is as ridiculous and false as their last one.
At least she will make a nice picture in future history books – the section covering civil rights in American history. Her picture will follow the picture of blacks lynched by whites.
Hope she likes it.
Who cares.
All I can say is, I hope that they get her a good writer! Why are we forgetting that the problem with her response was not so much the opinion expressed as it was the poor, circular, incoherent, Palinesque reasoning that groaned to support it?
I'm confident that these anti-gay-marriage people will go down in history as intolerant bigots and relics of an age gone by. But I also support free speech and don't have a problem with Miss California speaking out against gay marriage. I just don't agree with her.
My admiration goes out to Miss California for speaking her mind and her morals!
I'm a big supporter of gay marriage, but I'm siding with Ms California on this one. She was asked her opinion on a public stage and she gave it....fair enough. I don't agree with it, but free thought means the freedom to be wrong. Perez Hilton just loaded the oppostion with ammunition that ultimately damages his own positon. He'd have come off a lot better by replying to Prejean with "I don't agree with you, but thanks for sharing your beliefs...they won't affect the outcome of this pageant."
I still find it amazing how people that preach love and tolerance actually embrace hate and intolerance. Also how they tell only one side of the story and basically lie about why the did it. Read the truth behind the coming storm and learn the real reason why the courts stood behind the gays and not the Christians. The reason in every case was that the "Christians" were being bigots. Trying to deny rights or services to people just because they didn't follow their holy book. Love how they support hate and intolerance by children rather than understanding also.
How the Republican Representative Sally said that gays were a bigger threat then the taliban. The only thing gays threaten is the Church's dark ages thinking. Look at the anti civil rights people and interracial marriage bigots and you will find many matching comments by the "moral" right saying how it was wrong to allow this to happen. Those that fail to learn history are bound to repeat its mistakes.
Her answers have been respectable and fairly phrased. Perez Hilton's on the other hand, have been hateful and demeaning to women in general. I will not watch, nor allow my daughters to watch, the Miss USA contest again if that man is on the show. I am still sick from listening to what he said.
What “consequences” does gay marriage have?
We have been taught from a young age to 'keep our hands to ourselves;' we need to update the motto for the GOP, the Christian right and their like: "KEEP YOUR MORALS TO YOURSELVES!"
Look,
This has every right to feel the way she does. This is America and I would never want anyone to take that away from her. I as a gay man was not that offended by what she said during the pageant. What I do not like is this National organization for marriage and their dramatic rhetoric. Saying that she had courage to stand up for herself, and because of that it cost her the crown is absolutely ridiculous. There was no courage in that. This organization is making it seem like they are the minority and that there rights are being infringed upon when in fact, it's the opposite. Their scare tactics are sickening. Gay marriage does not effect anyone but the two people who decided to get married. The NOFM is a terrible biggoted organization, and if they are worried about the sanctity of marriage, then they need to make comercials battling divorce. Our divorce rate is the highest in the world. That is was is really destroying the sanctity of marriage.
I'd bet any amount of money that the new add won't have any specifics about exactly what these "consequences" are, and if it does they will probably be just crackpot theories based on anecdotal evidence that have no basis in actual scientific fact. I can't WAIT for this one.
-According to the group, the ad will call "gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."-
What exactly are the consequences? Committed loving people will be able to get married? Other then that I don't see what other "consequences" there are. Of course, I'm thinking rationally and not letting bias and fear cloud my judgement, maybe THAT is the issue!
I think everyone is missing the real issue of her answer. She first said we live in a country where we can "choose" same sex marriage. This is not the case. 4 states have laws allowing same sex marriage. 4 states do not the union make!
If you want to defend marriage, outlaw divorce. Problem solved. This will make getting married a more serious decision.
The only problem with this idea is that people love to tell others how to live their lives, but no one likes to be told how to live their life.
Side note:Check the full faith and credit clause in the U.S. Constitution.
ALL marriage has consequences.
It amazes me that someone parades around on national television with her butt and boobs hanging out, and then complains about other peoples' morals.
can you say – Pick and Choose? Let's pick and choose quotes from the bible... yeap, oh yeah, i'm selling my daughter to my neighbor this afternoon. I gotta go! bye!
Discrimination is not a ‘moral value’.
The "National Organization for Marriage" has chosen for itself one of the most ironic names ever.
Also, as regards the debate where the "the real issue" is concerned– the real issue is plain old prejudice and intolerance. These people want to foist their narrow, religious world-view on everyone and that is all they care about.
Can anyone honestly say that "opposite marriage" (to borrow a phrase from the eloquent Ms. Prejean) doesn't "have consequences"?
Ms. California should be applauded for her courage. As much as people want to make morality a non-issue in these times, it is good to see someone stand firm under pressure.
Carrie Prejean did not choose to risk the crown, unless she somehow chose to botch the answer.
Watch a post interview from Miss NC on the same question, and it is clear why she won Miss USA.
Also, there seems to be so much more this group could do with $1.5 million towards worthy charities.
So, who really cares what this woman thinks? It's actually quite fitting of the National Organization for Marriage to use somebody with NO credentials AT ALL to speak out on their behalf.
It must be nice to make money for simply openly agreeing with a majority opinion that oppresses people who are different from you. What would Jesus do? Certainly not make money off of the struggle and pain of tens of millions of people in the USA alone. She, along with the NOM, is a total, morally corrupt hypocrite.
It's interesting that her values have the leeway for her to receive brest implants bought and paid for by the Miss USA program...just a thought
Is Anita Bryant back?
Prejean is either ignorant, brainwashed by some sort of religious cult, a bigot, or just looking to advance her 'celebrity' with no regard for human feeling and dignity. I say its a bit of all of the above. May her '15 mins of fame' be gone soon and may she FAIL big. Judge Hilton was right: "Dumb B****"
"roasted"???? Sounds like a comedy routine.
Try vilified, belittled, denigrated, scorned,... Agree or not with her opinion, it's dishonest to minimize the hate that was directed towards her by those with opposing views.
Wait till Stephen Colbert gets wind of this. He's already ripped apart NOM, and now he has an extra idiot to attack.
You know what the real "Gathering Storm" in this country is? Intolerance and hatred. And the consequences of such behavior were manifested in the Holocaust. Remember, dear Christians, Judge not lest ye be judged.
Indivdual opinion is Carrie's right, but opinions are not what this Country's law is based on. The Constitution and Bill of Rights say we are all equal, therefore we should all be able to participate in life equally.
Is she still Miss California? If so, I would be pissed if I lived in her state and, while she was representing me, she made money on her bigoted position against gay marriage. I also wonder if she ever saw the groups first ad, A Gathering Storm. If so, she would know that the chances of their second ad becoming a laughingstock are pretty high.
I don't care what her opinion is, I care that she lied
Miss California, Carrie Prejean, said "We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised."
NO YOU CAN'T YOU BLOND BIMBO
She stood up for her values in the same way that Trent Lott stood up for segregation. I hope we keep these such ads for posterity so none of this you-have-to-understand-our-movement-in-context bs can be fed to subsequent generations. You know that when your cause is spearheaded by a tongue-tied, vacant-eyed bikini-clad dolt extolling the virtues of "opposite marriage", that your cause is a winner. I eagerly await Colbert's parody.
Thanks, Malibu Barbie, for your opinion. Now smile, wave, and go away.
And just WHAT exactly are those "real threats and consequences"? i'm still trying to figure that one out.
What exactly are the consequences to a same-sex marriage?
Lady, you are number one people , top of the line, with me. Go for it. You have nothing to loose and all to gain. At some point humanity has got to "draw a line in the sand" on right and wrong. I admire you!!!
If same sex marriage is a threat to your marriage-–your marriage is in trouble!
Good for her standing up for what she believes is right and not spouting off what other people think she should have said.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
"gay marriage has consequences"
"threats posed by same-sex marriage."
what exactly are they? what bad things could come from this? since when is equality evil?
The only reason I have heard is that it will push values on people that dont believe in gay marriage. However, isnt banning gay marriage doing the exact same thing.
"National Organization for Marriage"
"NOM NOM NOM"
Haha, sorry, I can't seem to take this "news" seriously.
The question she was given was very unfair anyways. How can you choose a 'beauty queen' by asking for an opinion? I think it was rigged-NC's sister is dating Chad Michael Murray... Coincidence??? I think not... I was really happy for NC until I found that out. What a disappointment...
Only a matter of time.
Joe the Plumber Ver. 2.0.
I hope she understands she is being used before she gets too far in.
gay marriage has consequences? Maybe Miss California can tell us what they are.
I assume by "consequences" they're referring to two more people in a committed relationship recognized by society. god-forbid!
I like that she stood for what she believed, whether you agree or not – more of us Americans need to do that. Sometimes we are just sheep being led down a path and not sure where it is going. We need to compromise and find solutions to our differences – but don't sell the farm in doing so.
"[G]ay marriage has consequences"... yes, I suppose so; like keeping the government out of religion (who's to tell a church who they can and can't marry?). Keeping the government out of religion seems like a winner to me (as is the converse).
However, if there are people who feel that gay marriage rights as granted by the state would interfere in their worship practises, howzabout starting with some taxes on church properties? Don't like that, eh? What factual part of "gay marriage" scares you the most?
"The Miss California TV ad is the group's second. Their first, called "A Gathering Storm," ran in several states earlier and featured actors issuing ominous warnings about the threats posed by same-sex marriage."
Just what is the threat of same-sex marriage? You want sanctity of marriage? Outlaw divorce. Make infidelity a felony. I dunno, they've got good ideas over there in the middle east on marriage, right? I bet their divorce rates are really low.
So, when the winner of Miss USA wants to use her crown for good, the LOSER uses her status for spreading hate and fear? Nice.
Haha
Yes, gay mariage has consequences; Such as a happy couple and more stable society. In Canada we simply call it "marriage." There is no separate category and this is how is should be. Marriage for all became (Federally) legal in 2005 – so far, Godzilla hasn't come and swallowed up the country. Imagine that. Greetings to all from Niagara Canada!
How pathetic. What a way to hold on to 15 minutes of fame. It
seems to me her no offense statement is causing hatred. I'm
not gay and have no problem with anybody that loves each other
wanting to get married. I do have a problem with individuals
that blatantly spread and cause hatred and act like they are
doing nothing wrong. Shame on you Ms California. I guess
your new career with be as a puppet.
Wow, is the First Amendment a problem for Gay/Lesbian advocates and same-sex marriage. She was basically "set-up" by Perez Hilton. The Miss USA organization has never publicly backed this essential right under the Constitution. If anything her comment's were so mild there is nothing to argument. She used the term "opposite marriage" to describe male/female unions. I'm certain Marriage between a woman and a man are the Majority in the USA and around the world, estimated at 85+% or more, not the minority. By attacking Miss CA, the rabid zealots of the homosexual community showed their true colors: agree with us and same-sex unions or be reviled, slandered, and harassed by Gay advocates who will use the 1st Amendment to justify anything "they" might say. Hooray for Miss CA!
No offense? I find her intolerance offensive, and if you have to start off a comment by saying "No offense..." then it's likely what follows is offensive. I don't have a problem with her having her own opinion or beliefs about same sex marriage, but keep it "biblically correct" and in her church and out of the right for loving couples to be civially married. And one more thing, no offense, but what do I care about some ignorant beauty queen's belief about marriage?
This makes me furious. She bumbled her answer and is now being hailed as courageous! Give me a break. She's just another ignorant bigot with a pretty face.
Not surprising that she has teamed up with that organization. She's looking for her 15 minutes of fame & they will use any chance they can get to try to discredit the LGBT community. Perhaps her vocabulary will improve for the add...the world already witnessed her ignorance in use of the english language, as well as her views. Funny, after she lost the pageant, in an effort to gain some support & temper her comments, she said her sister is a big supporter of gay rights. If that is true (which I doubt), I wonder what her sister thinks about her being a mouthpiece for what amounts to be a hate group. And yes gay marriage has consequences. It gives equal rights to a portion of American citizens who have been ostracized and denied the rights that should be theirs. It is not a religious issue, it is a legal one. It is time for separation of Church & state to be practiced & for our lawmakers to grant equal rights to all citizens.
i am sick of hearing about her. enough already.
Good for you Carrie. Mr. Hilton should be ashamed of himself for even asking such a question. His conduct was horrid and he should have been removed for attacking her. I am pleased with how Carrie handled herself and stood up for what is right.
God bless Carrie Prejean for standing up for what is morally right. This country could use more young people like Carried, and not be be ashame to stand up for one's belief. It's about time we stand up and let our voices be heard. She made the right choice to sacrifice the Miss USA crown rather than deceiving herself and America.
Unfortunately Prejean's religious bigotry is deep-seeded. Her god (small g) is darkness in whom there is no light.
Hatred, not love, is her "golden rule."
"gay marriage has consequences."
"threats posed by same-sex marriage."
I would still like to know exactly what this means. What "consequences" and "threats" are they talking about?
Short of some belief based on religious doctrine, I fail to see what REAL "consequences" and "threats" would exist for those of us who do not subscribe to or submit to the fairytale that is religion.
As for Miss Prejean, I have no issue with what she said... she spoke what she believed and I commend her for that.
I may not agree with her, but I will give her the credit she deserves.
At least she gave an honest response.
>>According to the group, the ad will call "gay marriage advocates to account for their unwillingness to debate the real issue: gay marriage has consequences."
And just what would those consequences be?
Good 4 her ......God created Man & Women to be together.
How is this "slamming?" talk about misleading headline. This girl is just stating her opinion.
What consequences?
More happily married citizens enjoying legally sanctioned rights of marriage. More stable homes paying taxes and offering safe havens for children needing adoption. More legally joined people with a vested interest in the safety, security, and economic stability of their own homes, their neighborhoods, and their communities.
Same-sex marriage does not threaten "traditional" marriage. Legalizing it will not force any religious institution to perform their sacred rites in sanction of a legal union.
Same-sex marriage *does* guarantee citizens of the United States of America the right to all the legal rights and obligations of their fellow citizens who join in unions of the opposite sex.
What are the consequences? Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all citizens of these United States.
That's not only a consequence, that's a benefit, and a civil right.
"Miss California" is not being persecuted for speaking her mind; she is being derided for the bigotry of her position. And being "brought up that way" does not excuse bigotry; if it did, slavery would still be a civil and Christian-sanctioned institution, women and blacks and Asians and other minorities would still be barred from voting and owning property, and any other number of other "traditional" institutions now considered illegal would still be in place.
God bless America, and god bless people who find each other and fall in love and want to get married. And for God's sake, let them.
I look forward to when saying you think same-sex marriage should be illegal is about as socially acceptable as promoting the old anti-miscegeny laws.
How does giving same-sex couples the same basic civil rights that opposite-sex couples enjoy hurt them in any way? Plenty of people find pre-marital sex to be immoral, but it's not illegal.
If NOM's new ad is half as ripe for mockery as their last one was, then I can't wait for Stephen Colbert to roast this one, too.
Yes, a pity she was called out on her bigotry. Had she been speaking out against interracial marriage, nobody would be cheering her "honesty" or aproaching her to do ads.
Gays are the last acceptable group to proclaim bigotry against because they can hind behind the bible to do it like cowards.
LOL...wow shocker there, I suppose she could be Sarah P's VP pick.
GOOD! The harrassment this poor girl received for simply answering a question about gay marriage is despicable!!
Hey – liberal losers piling on this girl – OBAMA AGREES WITH HER!!!
I guess only gay people are allowed to have an opinion. How sad.
Miss California and the rest of the same-sex marriage opposition might as well milk their "15 minutes" because it's almost up. It's only a matter ot time before generational change, common sense, the courts, and legislatures combine to extend full marital/civil rights to all American citizens - and not a moment too soon.
The church needs to stand for the black and hispanic community! That is Jesus, and they are our best friends! I am tired of the sexual revolution gay or straight!
I'm a fairly liberal democrat and I agree with her right to voice her opinion, popular or unpopular. Also, I thought it was rude and unfair to ask her a provocative question while the others got "softball" questions.
As a red blooded, skirt-chasing man, let me state that a gay male (this yahoo .. Perez Hilton ) has NO BUSINESS as a judge at a sexy woman beauty contest and that, like it or not, is what Miss USA is. We've gone too far when we care more about political correctness than the wishes of the majority of the population.
In trying to be accomodating, Miss California stumbled over her words ... that's why she ended up saying "opposite marriage". Marriage is a religious sacrament. I'm sorry but gays don't get to redefine it.
I don't want this to be the liberal "litmus test" like abortion is for the GOP. Let them have their rights under a "civil union" banner and let's move on.
Good for her.....she has an opinion and it's not what she's supposed to say. I am tired of ppl only being allowed to give the Hollywood answer.
this is incredibly good news. the more vapid palin-esque people the wingnuts find for their stumps, the more people will be repulsed by their party. maybe miss south carolina next, telling gay people to go to south africa and the iraq.
The same ding-dong that refers to California as a "country" as opposed to a state.
Good for you, Miss California. Decent people will have a lot more respect for your standing up for your beliefs, than in acquiring a crown.
hahaha just keep excluding people, and I guarantee you republicans will keep losing. The rest of America and the world is loving it.
Miss USA pageant is so meaningless. The judges have no backbones or morals.
A person is truly beautiful if she has true morals.
Miss California is the only true beauty if she is the only moral person there.
Think about it. Two same sex persons having sex...rubbiing the wrong parts against each other...sticking the wrong part in the wrong place.
Never designed to have children naturally.
Same Sex marriage is illogical just based on the physical parts.
If you disagree to this point, you are either greatly disillusioned or stupid,
I do not condemn those homosexuals who are what they are because of genetic distortions in their brain. There are homosexuals however who have chosen this evil path out of lifestyle choice. These latter group are big sinners and will burn in hell.
Miss California, Rush Limbaugh and Joe the Plumber. The GOP attracts all the "good ones" huh? hehehehe
Isn't it funny how California is a state of heathens and sinners but, when someone in the state agrees with their views, they are a-ok!
Just what are the consequences of gay marriage? It amazes me how some people in this country get up in arms to "defend" marraige. "Marriage between a man and a woman is sacred". In fact, its so sacred that millions of Americans tune in to watch shows like "The Bachelor" where the "sacred" act of marriage is degraded to a popularity contest. Hand picked, shallow, potential brides to be compete for the affections of a man they don't even know. Its obvious that its more about being on TV for these women than true love. The bachelor then chooses a spouse in the same fashion he'd use at a buffet; by sampling all the dishes before settling on the meatloaf. Then America goes "Aaaaaaw. That's so sweet!". Is it? How sacred can marriage be in America when the divorce rate is probably around 70 or 80 percent? People get married for the wrong reasons or give up too soon when the marriage gets tough. Get real people. My marriage to my wife has nothing to do with the rest of the country and neither does a marriage between two people of the same sex. Quit being judgemental and focus your energy into battling REAL issues.
Please, Stop referring to this as Gay Marriage, There is no such thing! The term refers to the union of a man and a woman, Period. Gays and Lez. need their own term. Like Pairiage. It's like someone calling mud "water". It;s not! It's not marriage if it's same sex. It's something new. They want to pair up fine, call it Pairiage, but not marriage, sorry that's taken already..They need to come up with their own....
This is wonderful news...You go Miss California! Just don't let this group go about it by turning off the people who are middle of the road....Kind of like the Republican party!
this is ridiculous! Standing up for "opposite marriage"? what a crock. this shows how desperate the right wing militia is to spin any publicity their way.
What were those big consequences of Gay marriage that I keep hearing about lol I havent seen any yet in the states that have okd gay marriage. Will someone on teh anti gay marriage side please give me a coherent response to what they think will happen if gay marriage is allowed. The wrath of God argument is not coherent lol
Good for her! I love the fact that she continues to stand up for what she believes knowing her opponents will be vocal about it.
I have a lot of respect for people who do not comprimise their integrity for the squeeky wheel.
Have you see the ad for gay marriage and how every has duct tape over their mouths? The irony is they want people who dont agree with them to be quiet, no one is trying to quiet them.
I agree with Miss USA. Marriage is for couples made up of a man and a woman. Where would we be if same sex couples became the norm. No future for the human race.
One does have to ask, Doesn't that Bible that Miss Prejean is so fond of, say something about not bearing false witness? And speaking of bearing false witness, what do you think Jesus would say about those huge FAKE BREASTS of hers? God did NOT make her that way. False Witness (that's one of the big 10).
"She is attacked viciously for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values," the group said in a press release. "But Carrie's courage inspired a whole nation and a whole generation of young people because she chose to risk the Miss USA crown rather than be silent about her deepest moral values."
Nothing for nothing, I don't think she did it for any other reason than she spoke her mind. I don't really think she thought she was risking anything. I do think that the gay community is rather quick to pull the sexual preference card awful quick. As an individual, I don't have to believe what you believe, nor should I be treated like dirt because I don't.
A BIGOT is a person who is intolerant of or takes offense to the opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own.
Call it what you want it is still bigotry. Time will show the hatred encouraged by "religion" is despicable. It is inevitable that as we progress as a society the walls will come down and equal rights will prevail. Stop hiding behind your church and admit that you are a bigot. Everyone has a right to pursue happiness. Like the racial bigotry of our past, there will come a time when we will look back and feel shame for our actions.
Stop claiming that you are protecting marriage. We currently take marriage for granted. Just look at the divorce rate. When half of the current marriages end in divorce now, how can you say you are protecting it when it isn't even taken seriously by straight couples?
One more air head republican trying to self promote with issues that really dont concern her. She was born straight and stands in judgement over others who are different. That is such classic conservatism and classic republican.. The repubes will do anything to promote their self-rightious causes..Lets keep religion out of our gouvernment PULEEEZZZZ! How much did they pay her for this?
If you don't like same sex marriage, then don't have one...but the fact that a PERSONAL issue is allowed to take headlines and even determine how some people vote in a national election shows the stupidity and ignorance of many Americans in this country.
Ominous empty threats is more like it. I saw that first NOM commercial and was confused as to what the message actually was. Those actors told the audience they were afraid, but "why" and "of what" weren't part of the discussion.
So what is everyone so afraid of when it comes to gay marriage? Anyone? What are these alleged terrible consequences? Please, I'd like to know. Or is this the exact same situation from decades past when interracial marriage was illegal? No one had any good reasons for that either, except ignorance, fear, and hate. I suspect that it is the same.
So come on, Miss CA. Really. You weren't terribly eloquent during the pageant. Will it be easier once someone else's words are in your mouth?
Prejean and NOM are religious-based bigots pure and simple.
And what the h*%l is this "opposite marriage" stuff? Just like these fear mongering evangelical freaks to get a fantastic-plastic beauty pagent ditz as a spokes person...
By the way, how does gay marriage have any consequences except for those gays getting married? Love to hear that logic – something besides religious-based bias if that's possible...
Good for her. I guess Perez Hilton considers speech "free" as long as you agree with his position. I'm fine with people having the choice to partner with anyone they wish but for the government to sanction it as the "norm" represents a departure from the majority of widely accepted societal, biological and religious views.
I hope someday she has children and one comes out as a gay. I wonder will her opinion change then?
Hey Carrie, keep you values where they belong, in your own life.
"Slams?" That's quite a misrepresentation.
The only reason she didn't win is because she has a view that is not accepted by the liberal Democrat establishment. The facts are the facts, only liberal Democrats in America look to punish people for their views, denying them a win in a contest like this, promotions at work, grades deserved at schools, the list goes on.
To vote Democrat is to support discrimination, you can't change this inconvient truth. I support gay marriage but I dont think people should be punished for having a different view, therefore I could never support the evil that is the liberal Democrat.
BTW, imagine she lost because she supported gay marriage, this is why decent people don't vote Democrat.
$1.5 million dollars was spent on this, and millions more spent on other similar campaigns... could we not find a better use for this money? People are losing jobs and homes, kids are being abused, people are sick and dying... and they chose to spend money to stop 2 consenting adults in love from getting married. Yeah, im sure thats exactly what God wants.
Its so funny to me its of my opinion if you don't want to marry the same sex then don't noone is forcing you too. What you would choose for your self should not control what some one else would choose for themseleves.
Please, someone—anyone, give me a 100% honest answer as to why you think same sex marriage will destroy the institution.
No hyperbole, no "doom and gloom" scenarios, no "theories", just a straight up answer as to why you believe what you do.
If Chuck and Larry from down the street — two people you don't know and will never meet — decide to get married, how is that going to effect your life on a day-to-day basis? Your marriage?
Let's be civil here and have a real discussion...
A botoxed, breast-implanted Barbie doll wanna-be is the exemplar of youth and spokesperson for the self-righrteous rule maker wanna-be's. Satan wins another round.
Perez Hilton is a disgrace to the human race. This is so typical of what's wrong with this country. This lame, wire-crossed idiot gets more respect than someone brought up with morals. Screw him! He should be sent packing (no pun intended) back into the closet where his fruity ass belongs!
Doesn't marriage in general have consequences? How many failed marriages between a man and a woman are there? hmmmmmmmmm. Food for thought.
Hooray for Miss California. I am sick of people going along with the politically correct crowd. Same sex marriage is a life choice with after life consequences.
Sorry, but her 'deppest moral values' should not be imposed on me or anyone else. She is free to believe what she likes but is not free to force those beliefs on others.
I find it so ironic that Perez hilton would be that harsh to someone because of their beliefs...typical double standard lib....Miss Cali is hot and repub....not a bettwer mix of woman in the world!!!!!!!!!
What a surprise. I'm sure it's through the same people/church that lied about Prop 8 to the people of California. Rights are not just for Christians. Everyone who lives and was born in this country are guaranteed equal rights. Not just religious haters and racists.
I really wish Perez Hilton had shut the royal hell up. He didn't help anyone, and set back to gay marriage movement perhaps by YEARS.
However the upside to another NOM ad will be more hilarious Colbert parodies.
NOM is for cheezeburgers, not for bigots.
If conservatives truly were frightened about marriage, they'd be trying to outlaw divorce. This is just another old, sad, and weak attempt to shore up the base for issues other than marriage. Conservatives everywhere ought to be beyond angry that the RNC thinks so little of its constituents that all it has to do is say "same-sex marriage" and people will scurry to the polls. No wonder the party is dead.
She is the real Miss USA.
This California chic needs to stop it already. I applaud her for stating her opinion and for not saying what the public and maybe even the judge wanted her to say. However, that is HER opinion, HER belief. Noone is asking her to change her beliefs so she shouldnt be involved in ads that basically attacks gay people and want them to change their beliefs and lifestyles. And to the group paying her for this ad cos she stood up for her moral values, is it moral for her to be parading around in her underwear infront of millions? Would they be ok if a fellow church member decided to strip down to her underwear for a beauty pageant? Wont they be the first to criticize that church member? My advice to them and all the so-called Christians in America: Stop picking and choosing which Biblical standards you will support. That just makes you judgemental and hypocritical.
Great – a fresh new face for those on the side of bigotry and hate – just what the U.S. needs!
Had Miss California said that blacks shouldn't marry or that a woman's place was in the home, no one would be applauding her "for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values".
Look at a photo of Ms. Prejean then put it next to a photo of Speaker Pelosi. I'm sooooo glad I'm a Conservative Republican. God must be on our side.
Good for her!
It's a shame that Ms. Prejean isn't as pretty on the inside as she is on the outside. I guess you can't put makeup on a soul.
What are the "consequences" of gay marriage that we are supposed to be afraid of? Seriously, can anyone name a concrete, objective consequence that will affect the general public? Hint: being offended doesn't count. Heck, I'm offended by ignorant bigotry, but I'm not pushing for legislation to ban it!
What exactly are the consequences of gay marriage? Two men or two women can go to the courthouse and get a marriage license. The result is what exactly? If a church doesn't want to sanction their marriage or perform the ceremony, that's fine. Some churchs won't marry non-members or people who are divorced. Why not approach gay marriage the same way? Miss California didn't lose the pageant because of her beliefs but because she stumbled around and couldn't answer the question in an eloquent manner.
I doubt very seriously that Carrie risked her crown by not keeping silent. As a matter of fact, more than likely, that crazy view of hers is probably what won it for her. It's too bad that states can't find out a little more about their beauty contestants, other than her measurements that is, before they let them get in front of the TV cameras to compete..... Anyone, who's prejudiced for any reason, should be showed the back door of the stage, not the cat walk.
Yea, boot em out!!!! It's called ZERO TOLERENCE..Hey now, don’t all you whackos go get you feathers all ruffled up, after all, you are the ones who patented the term “Zero Tolerance”!!!
Oh and at age what, 19, 20 she knows it all? Stop it.
What is the THREAT posed by gay marriage? The real threats are infidelity, unrealistic expectations of marriage, alcoholism, spousal abuse and lack of communication! If you are threatened by 2 men or 2 women who want to get married, then your marriage is too unstable to start with! Don't we want ALL people to be in a loving relationship with someone? The divorce rate for straight couples has been around 50% for many years, all before any gay marriage laws went into effect. Why don't these groups concentrate on all the single women who decide to have babies at 16 or younger? Maybe they should start giving them BIRTH CONTROL PILLS instead of abstinence lectures!
That makes me sick. In a recession, what kind of people would throw away 1.5 million dollars when there are millions struggling just to put food on the table. The anti-gay propaganda is ridiculous. I suggest they invest their money, time and energy into a more productive area. One that might actually benefit something or someone.
Has consequences, does it? How about listing them instead of smarmily alluding to something? I'm tired of this whole argument. It sounds just like white people sounded 100 years ago – they thought it was 'against God's law' for white and black to marry. How silly was that?
Why don't people get angry about a war that has killed 6000 of our children? Or the people dying in various revolutions around the world? No, they want to stand up for something that is meaningless and won't take any effort on their part.
Let this tranny milk it for all it's worth. LOSER
The consequences? Being able to afford healthcare for my partner? Being able to sit by her side in the hospital w/o fear of some self-righteous fundamentalist taking it upon themselves to have me removed because I'm not "family"? Being able to share bills, homes, children w/o fear of someone "disagreeing" with my inborn sexuality and interfering in my estate?
"Disagreeing" with the way Homosexuals are born is a choice.
One that has harmful, hurtful and sometimes deadly consequences.
I am proud of her and her stance against same sex marriage – I salute her efforts, this country has lost it's moral bearing, good for her for keeping hers!
For all you gay people out there, you can thank Perez Hilton, on top of the in-your-face, pushiness of the gay and lesbian community, along with the fact that being against same sex marriage is not the same as being against interracial marriage. The Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. It never mentions race. I've never read about a country in the history of mankind that had same sex marriages.
Attacked viciously? Hmmm... like the way conservitives attack same sex couples? Get with it people, times are changing. Lives are changing. Everything you know to be traditional is destined to change eventually.
Whose next? Joe the Plumber? They want us to debate the issue when they have a supermodel as their spokesperson? Please.
Someone willing to stand up for truth rather than cave to the PC crowd!
Threat? Who's threatened by someone else's marriage? If two of my gay friends also get married. I'm just as married as I was before.
The real threat is the religious folk assuming ownership of something that doesn't necessarily have to be religious (you can have a civil ceremony), and making everyone else live according to their playbook. Look at the Taliban if you want to see what can happen when religious extremists assume control.
If Miss Cali is the best they can get for their right-wing campaign, then we lefties have NOTHING to worry about!!
She is of course entitled to her opinion. Though I support same sex marriage, I think the negative comments about her were inappropriate.
I do however have a question about the comment about her "deepest moral values". Is parading yourself in a bikini specifically to show off your body something people of high moral value participate in? I think these 'contests' that select women by their beauty are demeaning and have no place in our society.
I am against gay marriage as well. Here are ten reasons why:
1.Being gay is not “natural”. Real Americans always reject un-natural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
2.Gay marriage will encourage people to be “gay”; in the same way hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3.Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of “crazy” behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
4.Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are still property, blacks can’t marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5.Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears’ 55-hour “just for fun” marriage would be destroyed.
6.Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn’t be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren’t full yet, and the world needs more children.
7.Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8.Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That’s why we have only one religion in America.
9.Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10.Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven’t adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, and longer life spans.
I am glad Carrie Prejean stood up for her views and beliefs, which I happen to share. I sincerely hope the National Organization of Marriage isn't attacked as viciously. No offense!
Sorry, but the narrow-mindedness in this contestant's attitude smacks more of ignorance, and a desire to take rights away from others who are equal to her, more than any 'courage or deep moral values'. It seems to me i am not inspired by her, or this 'too far right' group.
Seems that gay marriage advocates DO discuss this, and the whole reason this IS in the news is because these groups do deserve equal rights, they are equal to anyone else.
I will certainly root AGAINST the Miss USA California contestant.
When is this going to stop?
Seriously, she and this organization and those oppossed to gay marriage are such narrowminded people who do not have a heart and are not educated about the subject. Get over it already! Who the hell cares if people are gay? It's not a freaking diease and it won't destory your marriage if your straight.
Honestly, tell me how a homosexual marriage is a threat to a hetrosexual one? Please someone educate me on that cause I fail to see how it's a threat. If you have a strong marriage NOTHING should break it.
All of you haters against gay marriage should stop throwing stones at innocents and look at how hateful, spitefull and oppressing you are being.
A bunch for f-ing hypocrites.
You gotta be kidding me. Are these people actually proud of their bigotry? Marriage is a legally recognized institution and it has nothing to do with anybody's misguided view of religion. As long as rights are associated with marriage (like insurance, care giving, etc...) everybody has the civil right to marriage, not just heterosexual homophobes. When is the Supreme Court going to enforce this? Remember – the Christian righ was against civil rights for blacks back in tyhe 60's as well. Praise god!!!
Quote: "She is attacked viciously for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values"
Is ignorance and lack of education regarding this subject also called courage? Is treating people like 2nd class citizens and not giving them the same rights as everyone else called "her truth and values"
Being gay has nothing to do with morals or values. It is simply how a person is born. People are born gay. What kind of message is she sending to gay kids across this country? They need love, support, and above all to know that when they grow up and ready to marry they will have that fundamental human right.
She may have a gay child of her own one day. I'm sure she would want that child to be equal to everyone else. Education is the key to combat ignorance.
Oh good – their first ad was hilarious!!! Not quite making the point they wanted. What a bunch of delusional drama queens.
First, I do not think this question should have been asked. But since it was, I think her response was not intelligent. There is nothing wrong with saying she believes in "opposite marriage", but she answered in a less than sensible fashion. First she said that in this "great land" people can have same or opposite marriage. Not true – a small number of states allow gay marriage. Then she followed it with a statement that in her "country" she does not believe there should be gay marriage. I didn't know California seceded! So she has the facts wrong on all counts – stating gay marriage possible in this great land – and referring to California as a country. For those reasons I believe she deserved to lose – not for her belief to which she is entitled.
Is it a vicious attack to say you couldn't scrub the nasty off that bint with a wire brush, and she doesn't represent any USA I ever lived in? Because in my humble, unsolicited, and constitutionally-protected opinion, she's a skank. Sorry about the vicious attack.
Now, the real question: who let Perez Hilton waddle into a beauty contest at all, much less be a judge? Boot that creep out of the pageant system, please.
this is completely assinine..who the *bleep* cares?? Why the Gay rights advocates continue to make such a big deal over it is just as confounding why the hetero marriage advocates claim such a higher moral ground. Wouldn't it be nice if the media simply ignored them all??
Pathetic!
Maybe it would help their cause if they got someone intelligent and informed to speak out against gay marriage instead of this dimwitted backward "beauty" queen (I guess it truly is in the eye of the beholder)!
Oh, that's right – nobody intelligent and informed would be against gay marriage!
"She is attacked viciously for having the courage to speak up for her truth and her values,"
A red herring. Anyone can express their views, sure, that is guaranteed by the first amendment and I think Miss CA should be encouraged to express what her "true values" are. However, if those "true values" are made on a stage in front of a large audience, and are based on ignorance, involve discrimination, and is poorly articulated, expect many people to express their "true values" in opposition to those views.
The view that state-sanctioned gay-marriage poses any kind of threat to anyone is just plain bizarre to me and represents a general inability to use critical reasoning against beliefs that are indoctrinated into individuals at a young age. I have yet to hear a rational, justified argument against state-sanctioned gay marriage.
These moronic religious zealots do not understand the difference between a marriage sanctioned by their religion and a marriage sanctioned by the state. They can restrict marrige under their religion if they want but, in a land of equal rights for all, they should not and must not be able to restrict who can get married under the law. The good news is that , if these nut jobs are correct and there is a wise and just supreme being, they will all get to spend eternity in Hell.
I agree wholeheartedly with Carrie, marraiage indeed is by definition and by the Bible is a between a man and a woman, anyone that says otherwise, needs to go back thier respective mothers and ask, why she conceived them through her male partner.
If everyone is gay or a lesbian, how do they think they were given life??A straight woman gave them life.
I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. but yes, yes, yes, a marriage is indeed between a man a woman.
I wish someone could explain to me why they are so afraid of same sex marriage? I don't see why it would affect hetros marriages. Maybe they should just mind their own business and tend to their own lives. I am tired of having someone push their values on me.It is not my business or theirs.
Ms. Prejean seems like a nice person, if slightly dim-witted based on her inability to speak extemporaneously. I would bet that she would not like to be told that her choice of mate, or religion, or political party makes her less of a citizen, so what can we make of her opposition to others having the same rights, other than that she is a bigot?
At some point, our country will have to reconstruct and fortify the wall that separates church and state. Some issues are the purview of religion and some are not. Affording citizens equal rights under the law is one that is clearly not.
Carrie's response to the question at the pageant was both thoughtful and respectful. It's a shame that her words will be used by the same types who terrorized our nation into abandoning the Equal Rights Amendment. Keep it up, conservatives and republicans, your big tent is turning into a fortified bunker.
I am PROUD of you Hun! Rest assure, Despite the pagent is unhappy with you....I can assure you your nation and myself is proud to know that you stood your ground, your opinion matters. You were right to speak your opinion. Its against God. How can we run a "NATION UNDER GOD" if we approve gay marriage laws???? Keep your chin up , your not alone. Your one of the few beautiful model-type women that state their true feelings w/o worry of being knocked to the bottom of the beauty pool.
There is nothing moral about denying your fellow adult Americans the same rights you have. Mind your own business and go protest adultry, the real threat to your marriage.
You go girl!!! You will be rewarded for your boldness and faith!