Comments on: Spanish judge orders Guantanamo torture probe http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: big papa http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644324 big papa Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:35:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644324 Just WHY did GW Bush and Dick Cheney say we had to bring down Saddam again? ...did we not hear about torture and rape rooms? ...Myyyyy how easily you ignorant, inhumane torture mongers on the right forget... Just WHY did GW Bush and Dick Cheney say we had to bring down Saddam again?

...did we not hear about torture and rape rooms?

...Myyyyy how easily you ignorant, inhumane torture mongers on the right forget...

]]> By: Rumsfeld http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644320 Rumsfeld Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:51 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644320 Just because we lowered ourselves to the level of evil of our enemies doesn't make us guilty of anything. Besides, it wasn't "waterboarding," it was "restrained bathing." Just because we lowered ourselves to the level of evil of our enemies doesn't make us guilty of anything. Besides, it wasn't "waterboarding," it was "restrained bathing."

]]> By: Uncle Jimbo-Chicago http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644313 Uncle Jimbo-Chicago Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644313 Are we a Nation of Laws or not ? This does not mean a separate set of laws for the poor or working middle class, and a separate set of laws for the wealthy and politically connected. We are Not above the rest of the world. Remember the words - that all men are created equal. Whoever broke the rule of law, whether about torture, or our invasion of Iraq should be tried and sentenced accordingly, or our Constitution is from now on, irrelevant. Are we a Nation of Laws or not ?

This does not mean a separate set of laws for the poor or working middle class, and a separate set of laws for the wealthy and politically connected.

We are Not above the rest of the world. Remember the words – that all men are created equal.

Whoever broke the rule of law, whether about torture, or our invasion of Iraq should be tried and sentenced accordingly, or our Constitution is from now on, irrelevant.

]]> By: Anonymous http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644302 Anonymous Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:32:58 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644302 After the big train terror debacle in Spain, you'd think they would keep their nose in their own country! After the big train terror debacle in Spain, you'd think they would keep their nose in their own country!

]]> By: Peter http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644292 Peter Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:31:59 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644292 If so many Republicans wish to stand up and argue a case for torture then perhaps the GOP should make torture a part of its official party platform. While we are at it the GOP can also make a decree that the US and its citizens are vastly superior to everyone else and hence we can do whatever we want. It seems that it is only right wing extremists left in the party now anyway.... If so many Republicans wish to stand up and argue a case for torture then perhaps the GOP should make torture a part of its official party platform. While we are at it the GOP can also make a decree that the US and its citizens are vastly superior to everyone else and hence we can do whatever we want. It seems that it is only right wing extremists left in the party now anyway....

]]> By: Farrell, Houston, Tx http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644281 Farrell, Houston, Tx Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:31:21 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644281 Spain needs to look themselves, they are responsible for slaves and slave trade and have never aplogized. This is not to say I agree with torture but Spain needs to shut up and mind their own business. Spain needs to look themselves, they are responsible for slaves and slave trade and have never aplogized. This is not to say I agree with torture but Spain needs to shut up and mind their own business.

]]> By: Lowell http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644263 Lowell Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:29:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644263 What I want to know is why a foreign judge is the one with the cajones big enough to put war criminals on trial instead of American judges. What I want to know is why a foreign judge is the one with the cajones big enough to put war criminals on trial instead of American judges.

]]> By: Brett http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644254 Brett Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:28:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644254 Sorry spainish people.... back off! your court has do nothing with america's soil. We should against spain for their famous "spainish virus" in 1920's... kill 20-30 millions people in wideworld! :) Sorry spainish people.... back off! your court has do nothing with america's soil.

We should against spain for their famous "spainish virus" in 1920's... kill 20-30 millions people in wideworld! :)

]]> By: Retired US ARMY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644240 Retired US ARMY Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:27:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644240 I dare anyone to call me soft, liberal, a lefty or any other name that seems so popular out there. All you need to understand is that we have a Consitution, and that we as a nation sign things called Treaties and Conventions, and that these are as binding as any Federal Law ever passed. If laws were violated then those that violated the laws should be held accountable in a court of law. You also need to understand it would appear that our laws apply to those in our custody, we don't have little no law zones that we can behave in any fashion we want. If international laws were violated and we can not police our own, then the international community should as with any rouge state take action to bring violators to justice. NO ONE is above the law. No Action taken for what ever reason, is above the law. You don't want an other nation investigating charges of torture, and other acts that violate international Treaties and laws, then get off your chair and demand that we investigate the matters and get to the bottom of it. I dare anyone to call me soft, liberal, a lefty or any other name that seems so popular out there. All you need to understand is that we have a Consitution, and that we as a nation sign things called Treaties and Conventions, and that these are as binding as any Federal Law ever passed. If laws were violated then those that violated the laws should be held accountable in a court of law. You also need to understand it would appear that our laws apply to those in our custody, we don't have little no law zones that we can behave in any fashion we want. If international laws were violated and we can not police our own, then the international community should as with any rouge state take action to bring violators to justice. NO ONE is above the law. No Action taken for what ever reason, is above the law.

You don't want an other nation investigating charges of torture, and other acts that violate international Treaties and laws, then get off your chair and demand that we investigate the matters and get to the bottom of it.

]]> By: Patriot Guy http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644226 Patriot Guy Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:25:32 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644226 You can bet Obama and his band of incompetent, spineless apologizing traitors will kneel down and give these America-hating elitists exactly what they want. Obama is for anything that will weaken the U.S. That's his mission. Iran will probably be the next foreign government to request "propaganda assistance" against the U.S. and they'll likely get it. I would have loved to have heard Cheney's response if these America-haters would have asked him for documents. ;-) You can bet Obama and his band of incompetent, spineless apologizing traitors will kneel down and give these America-hating elitists exactly what they want. Obama is for anything that will weaken the U.S. That's his mission. Iran will probably be the next foreign government to request "propaganda assistance" against the U.S. and they'll likely get it.

I would have loved to have heard Cheney's response if these America-haters would have asked him for documents. ;-)

]]> By: China, North Korea, Japan, and Vietnam on trial next http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644224 China, North Korea, Japan, and Vietnam on trial next Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:25:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644224 Ok folks, if we are going to hiod trials for torture, Obama needs to step up and add the following to the US urt docket. North Vietnam needs to go on trial for torturing and killing many of our Vietnam POW's/. where is the outrage here my fellow citizens? North Korea needs to be put on trial for the attrocities in the Korean War. It is not too late to bring Japan to trial for the Death March on Bataan, is it? China is also guilty of torturing many US soldiers in their Army prisons. And lastly, France needs to go on trial for torturing the world, with their arrogance -- simply because it is France. Ok folks, if we are going to hiod trials for torture, Obama needs to step up and add the following to the US urt docket.

North Vietnam needs to go on trial for torturing and killing many of our Vietnam POW's/. where is the outrage here my fellow citizens?

North Korea needs to be put on trial for the attrocities in the Korean War.

It is not too late to bring Japan to trial for the Death March on Bataan, is it?

China is also guilty of torturing many US soldiers in their Army prisons.

And lastly, France needs to go on trial for torturing the world, with their arrogance - simply because it is France.

]]> By: mona http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644213 mona Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:23:55 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644213 The US should be held accountable for their actions. Do not use patriotism as our defense because these actions were just down right arrogant. The US should be held accountable for their actions. Do not use patriotism as our defense because these actions were just down right arrogant.

]]> By: Chi Town http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644204 Chi Town Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:23:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644204 I agree with Spain... They should start with Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Byrd and all the other intell comittee members that were briefed... since 2002 I agree with Spain...

They should start with Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Byrd and all the other intell comittee members that were briefed... since 2002

]]> By: Jimmy the Greek http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644201 Jimmy the Greek Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:23:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644201 @ Tulsa says, "let them Put Bush, Chaney, Rumsfield, Gonzales, and all the rest on trial.." ------- "All the rest" would include leading Democrats since they were repeatedly included in the briefings and not one raised an objection. Do we also include the judiciary who rendered their best legal opinion on this matter? How about the CIA and soldiers who were given legal cover by Obama? (eyes rolling) People like you, Tulsa, are WORSE than the terrorists trying to kill Americans. You're the type of anti-American who was HAPPY to hear of American casualties in Iraq - because of your anti-war stance and believing us to be "invaders and occupiers". You're the enemy within. @ Tulsa says,

"let them Put Bush, Chaney, Rumsfield, Gonzales, and all the rest on trial.."

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"All the rest" would include leading Democrats since they were repeatedly included in the briefings and not one raised an objection.

Do we also include the judiciary who rendered their best legal opinion on this matter?

How about the CIA and soldiers who were given legal cover by Obama?

(eyes rolling)

People like you, Tulsa, are WORSE than the terrorists trying to kill Americans. You're the type of anti-American who was HAPPY to hear of American casualties in Iraq – because of your anti-war stance and believing us to be "invaders and occupiers".

You're the enemy within.

]]> By: Fair is Fair http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644188 Fair is Fair Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:22:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644188 @ Lynda/Minnesota, My take on why we're in Iraq really doesn't matter, does it? The fact is that a majority in congress approved of the action. The dems (Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, who was for it before he was against it) were part of that vote as well. But for the record... I look back to March, 2003. I remember a lot of national pride at the time. 9/11 was only a little over a year past. Lesson here - pride comes before the fall. I remember the majority of Americans approved our action in Iraq. Lesson here - when things are going your way, it's easy to jump on the bandwagon. We Americans are a fickle sort. I remember the belligerence of Saddam Hussien in the face of the UN inspectors. I remember the fact that we basically told him we were coming at hin at least 6 months before we did. Lesson here - don't telegraph your moves to your opposition. If he had something to dispose of, he had pleanty of time to do so. I could go on and on... @ Lynda/Minnesota,

My take on why we're in Iraq really doesn't matter, does it? The fact is that a majority in congress approved of the action. The dems (Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, who was for it before he was against it) were part of that vote as well.

But for the record... I look back to March, 2003.

I remember a lot of national pride at the time. 9/11 was only a little over a year past. Lesson here – pride comes before the fall.

I remember the majority of Americans approved our action in Iraq. Lesson here – when things are going your way, it's easy to jump on the bandwagon. We Americans are a fickle sort.

I remember the belligerence of Saddam Hussien in the face of the UN inspectors. I remember the fact that we basically told him we were coming at hin at least 6 months before we did. Lesson here – don't telegraph your moves to your opposition. If he had something to dispose of, he had pleanty of time to do so.

I could go on and on...

]]> By: Jim, Louisville, KY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644175 Jim, Louisville, KY Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:20:05 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644175 Spain needs to worry about its citizens and US will take care of their own. The Spanish have only one gear in dealing with terrorism reverse. The President should tell Spain to back off. Spain needs to worry about its citizens and US will take care of their own. The Spanish have only one gear in dealing with terrorism reverse. The President should tell Spain to back off.

]]> By: CitizenJane http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644169 CitizenJane Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:19:23 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644169 Question: If the torture worked, why is Bin Laden still hiding out in his cave? Question: If the torture worked, why is Bin Laden still hiding out in his cave?

]]> By: Obama should be on trial for murder http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644166 Obama should be on trial for murder Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:19:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644166 Following Spain's logic, Pakistan should now step up and put President Obama on trial for mass muder as he ordered the predator missle strikes into the soverign nation of Pakistan which killed many innocent women and children. Shame on you Mr President - innocent women and childrens; Pakistani blood on your hands in just the first 100 days in office Following Spain's logic, Pakistan should now step up and put President Obama on trial for mass muder as he ordered the predator missle strikes into the soverign nation of Pakistan which killed many innocent women and children. Shame on you Mr President – innocent women and childrens; Pakistani blood on your hands in just the first 100 days in office

]]> By: southerncousin http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644158 southerncousin Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:18:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644158 Please libs, prosecute the Bush administration. We want to show the world how immoral, stupid and dangerous you dope smokers really are. Please libs, prosecute the Bush administration. We want to show the world how immoral, stupid and dangerous you dope smokers really are.

]]> By: Kelby In Houston, TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644155 Kelby In Houston, TX Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:18:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644155 For all of you Ignoramuses out there. Yes, Spain has every right to investigate prosecute convict and confine Bush and everybody else who was involved with torture.... For all of you Ignoramuses out there. Yes, Spain has every right to investigate prosecute convict and confine Bush and everybody else who was involved with torture....

]]> By: Jon in CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644122 Jon in CA Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:14:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644122 Since Spain has decided THEY are now the World Court.... when will they be opening trial against the REAL terrorists: - those that decapitated journalist Daniel Pearl - Hamas & Hezbollah for sending suicide bombers to kill innocent women and children on Israeli buses and malls - Osama Bin Laden - Chinese human rights violations - Castro imprisoning political dissidents - etc etc etc Oh wait.... this is really just a dog-and-pony show attempting to embarrass the US. Spain could care less about REAL terrorism and justice. Let's watch Obama sit back, without dissent, and allow this to happen. Since Spain has decided THEY are now the World Court.... when will they be opening trial against the REAL terrorists:

- those that decapitated journalist Daniel Pearl
- Hamas & Hezbollah for sending suicide bombers to kill innocent women and children on Israeli buses and malls
- Osama Bin Laden
- Chinese human rights violations
- Castro imprisoning political dissidents
- etc etc etc

Oh wait.... this is really just a dog-and-pony show attempting to embarrass the US. Spain could care less about REAL terrorism and justice.

Let's watch Obama sit back, without dissent, and allow this to happen.

]]> By: Michael http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644116 Michael Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:14:01 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644116 "Lawrence April 29th, 2009 12:49 pm ET It is a sad day in US history when a US President says nothing when a judge from Spain says he wants to investigate our violations of human rights and international law. Shame on Obama. Obama has squandered our moral authority." Dude, where have you been for 8 years? Obama is building our moral authority back up, after Bush and Co completely detroyed it, by all accounts. (minus Faux News of course) "Lawrence April 29th, 2009 12:49 pm ET
It is a sad day in US history when a US President says nothing when a judge from Spain says he wants to investigate our violations of human rights and international law. Shame on Obama. Obama has squandered our moral authority."

Dude, where have you been for 8 years? Obama is building our moral authority back up, after Bush and Co completely detroyed it, by all accounts. (minus Faux News of course)

]]> By: tom http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644112 tom Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:13:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644112 Should Obama go on trial at the ICC for ordering predator missle strikes into the soverign nation of Pakistan? Thanks a lot Obama for taking a page out of the Nixon playbook...when Nixon ordered bombings in Laos during the Vietnam War. Should Obama go on trial at the ICC for ordering predator missle strikes into the soverign nation of Pakistan? Thanks a lot Obama for taking a page out of the Nixon playbook...when Nixon ordered bombings in Laos during the Vietnam War.

]]> By: Frank http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644104 Frank Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:11:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644104 It is amazing how so many want to (just like they did with the Constitution) just forget about the Geneva convention, which we signed and hold other countries to its standards. If I'm not mistaken the geneva Convention gave us the right to try the Nazi's for their war crimes. So many of you would just like us to further strain our relationship with our allies and protect criminals. Typical rethuglicans. It is amazing how so many want to (just like they did with the Constitution) just forget about the Geneva convention, which we signed and hold other countries to its standards. If I'm not mistaken the geneva Convention gave us the right to try the Nazi's for their war crimes. So many of you would just like us to further strain our relationship with our allies and protect criminals. Typical rethuglicans.

]]> By: Jeff http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644092 Jeff Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:10:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644092 I'm puzzled why so many infantile torture apologists seem to believe that enforcing US and international law is the same as coddling terrorists. I'm puzzled why so many infantile torture apologists seem to believe that enforcing US and international law is the same as coddling terrorists.

]]> By: dominican mama 4 Obama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644089 dominican mama 4 Obama Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:10:04 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644089 I am an American. I believe in standing up for my country, and it's actions....when we are in the RIGHT. To An Attotrney's Explanation ":It comes down to this - if America claims a right to judge foreign terrorists for their acts . . . then other countries claim a comparable right to judge Americans for their acts of torture. Deal with it." In this particular case, I could'nt have put it better myself. I am an American. I believe in standing up for my country, and it's actions....when we are in the RIGHT.

To An Attotrney's Explanation ":It comes down to this – if America claims a right to judge foreign terrorists for their acts . . . then other countries claim a comparable right to judge Americans for their acts of torture.

Deal with it."

In this particular case, I could'nt have put it better myself.

]]> By: Spain is full of itself http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644083 Spain is full of itself Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:09:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644083 Judge, go back and try yourself for the Spanish Inquisition ..and sentence your entire country to life in jail, or worse, life in Spain. What about the torture by the Taliban? Spain is too afraid to touch that one. What about the bombing of NYC by Osama Bin Laden - too afraid of the Muslims to do that one. What about the Israel bombings of civilians in Gaza. Spain is afraid of that one too. What about the family honor rapes in Pakistan and India; the beatings of women in Iran and Saudi Arabia, and the genocide in Darfur? Spain is too afraid of those too, No, this judge is seeking publicity only, and will probably write a book bashing America. Obama will say nothing as he wants to be loved by Europe. I say we charge the Spanish government for the Spanish Inquisition. Judge, go back and try yourself for the Spanish Inquisition ..and sentence your entire country to life in jail, or worse, life in Spain.

What about the torture by the Taliban? Spain is too afraid to touch that one.

What about the bombing of NYC by Osama Bin Laden – too afraid of the Muslims to do that one.

What about the Israel bombings of civilians in Gaza. Spain is afraid of that one too.

What about the family honor rapes in Pakistan and India; the beatings of women in Iran and Saudi Arabia, and the genocide in Darfur? Spain is too afraid of those too,

No, this judge is seeking publicity only, and will probably write a book bashing America. Obama will say nothing as he wants to be loved by Europe.

I say we charge the Spanish government for the Spanish Inquisition.

]]> By: jm http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644074 jm Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:08:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644074 Lawrence, Obama must be too busy focusing on promoting the completion of his first 100 days in office. So unless his teleprompter tells him to comment on this subject don't expect to hear anything. We already know he isn't capable of thought, just acknowledge it for what it is. Lawrence,

Obama must be too busy focusing on promoting the completion of his first 100 days in office. So unless his teleprompter tells him to comment on this subject don't expect to hear anything. We already know he isn't capable of thought, just acknowledge it for what it is.

]]> By: Robert in CT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644064 Robert in CT Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:07:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644064 How pathetic is it that we are too cowardly to pursue justice, and other nations are having to do it for us. Why is the Republican party becoming the "Party of Torture?" Why is the press pretending this is a right/left issue when it is simply definitional, and already settled US and international law? How pathetic is it that we are too cowardly to pursue justice, and other nations are having to do it for us. Why is the Republican party becoming the "Party of Torture?" Why is the press pretending this is a right/left issue when it is simply definitional, and already settled US and international law?

]]> By: Ernesto http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644062 Ernesto Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:06:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644062 This is simply the world responding to our outrageous actions during Bush's administration. If the US can put the Japanese and Germans on trial during WWII, why should we expect the world to accept our commiting crimes in the name of government and have no consequences? Let them investigate and extradite Bush, Cheney, Gonzales and Rumsfeld. They commited the crimes and let them be held accountable. This is simply the world responding to our outrageous actions during Bush's administration. If the US can put the Japanese and Germans on trial during WWII, why should we expect the world to accept our commiting crimes in the name of government and have no consequences? Let them investigate and extradite Bush, Cheney, Gonzales and Rumsfeld. They commited the crimes and let them be held accountable.

]]> By: Doug, New Jersey http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644058 Doug, New Jersey Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:06:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644058 "Typical republican mentality. Unbelievable. You should be arrested for being so stupid." The average Democrat wants Islamic terrorists who want to kill innocent civilians to go free, and for all Americans who are republicans to be locked up. Almost every single one feels this way, they even just come out and say it straight up. I guess they don't have any remorse in saying it because they've been conditioned by the lib media to live a life based on hate and they now have a president who feels the same way as they do. "Typical republican mentality. Unbelievable. You should be arrested for being so stupid."

The average Democrat wants Islamic terrorists who want to kill innocent civilians to go free, and for all Americans who are republicans to be locked up. Almost every single one feels this way, they even just come out and say it straight up. I guess they don't have any remorse in saying it because they've been conditioned by the lib media to live a life based on hate and they now have a president who feels the same way as they do.

]]> By: Fan of Common Sense http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644053 Fan of Common Sense Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:05:21 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644053 So B.O. is now taking his marching orders from Spain. Wonderful. :-) So B.O. is now taking his marching orders from Spain. Wonderful. :-)

]]> By: Who's Spain http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644050 Who's Spain Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:05:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644050 Spain has no govererning authority so if any of you left wing American hating scum think this will happen your ignorant. Spain has no govererning authority so if any of you left wing American hating scum think this will happen your ignorant.

]]> By: Jon http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644045 Jon Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:04:04 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644045 I'd love to see Dick Cheney in a Spanish prison. I'd love to see Dick Cheney in a Spanish prison.

]]> By: Who's Spain http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644044 Who's Spain Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:03:42 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644044 What is the definition of IS! I have no recollection of those events. Make sure to try William Ayers right along with them. What is the definition of IS! I have no recollection of those events. Make sure to try William Ayers right along with them.

]]> By: fjohnson http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644043 fjohnson Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:03:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644043 to Lynn ... it is sometimes called patriotism. to Lynn ... it is sometimes called patriotism.

]]> By: Larry http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644036 Larry Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:02:45 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644036 Torture is a crime against humanity and a violation of international law. Every judge in every country should be calling for an investigation into these heinous acts ordered by a corrupt and immoral American administration. This Spanish judge has every right to call for an investigation since an innocent Spanish citizen was tortured at Guantanamo. Also, J.P. is a racist. Mississippi Mike is an Ostrich with his head in the sand. TomJay is a moron. Torture is a crime against humanity and a violation of international law. Every judge in every country should be calling for an investigation into these heinous acts ordered by a corrupt and immoral American administration. This Spanish judge has every right to call for an investigation since an innocent Spanish citizen was tortured at Guantanamo. Also, J.P. is a racist. Mississippi Mike is an Ostrich with his head in the sand. TomJay is a moron.

]]> By: Tulsa L http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644025 Tulsa L Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:01:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644025 If we have the right to put people from another country on trial then they have the right to do the same to us........We don't practice the old Bush tactics anymore (Do as we say, Not as we Do) when we try to tell other countries what they can and cannot do then we are coming off as Over Powering and being a Big Bully..........so what goes around comes around......let them Put Bush, Chaney, Rumsfield, Gonzales, and all the rest on trial, isn't that what we did to the Nazis after WWII...... If we have the right to put people from another country on trial then they have the right to do the same to us........We don't practice the old Bush tactics anymore (Do as we say, Not as we Do) when we try to tell other countries what they can and cannot do then we are coming off as Over Powering and being a Big Bully..........so what goes around comes around......let them Put Bush, Chaney, Rumsfield, Gonzales, and all the rest on trial, isn't that what we did to the Nazis after WWII......

]]> By: Mike from Calgary http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644019 Mike from Calgary Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:01:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644019 3,000 people, from evey continent, including Spaniards, were murdered in the most horrific manner on September 11th. I would think investigating those horrendous crimes would be Spain's priority. And if the terrorists don't cooperate, or answer questions, then what. Governments need to keep their focus, rather than be diverted by such navel gazing! I'm not saying that no investigation should take place, but wonder about the proportionality of Spain's actions. Rather than fiddling Rome or the Twin Towers burn, governments need to take REAL ACTION to defend their citizens. After the horrendous train bombings in Spain, I would have expected that the Spanish had their eyes open to the real danger! 3,000 people, from evey continent, including Spaniards, were murdered in the most horrific manner on September 11th. I would think investigating those horrendous crimes would be Spain's priority. And if the terrorists don't cooperate, or answer questions, then what. Governments need to keep their focus, rather than be diverted by such navel gazing! I'm not saying that no investigation should take place, but wonder about the proportionality of Spain's actions. Rather than fiddling Rome or the Twin Towers burn, governments need to take REAL ACTION to defend their citizens. After the horrendous train bombings in Spain, I would have expected that the Spanish had their eyes open to the real danger!

]]> By: Lynda/Minnesota http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2644005 Lynda/Minnesota Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:59:23 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2644005 @J.P., Where is your hero Hannity? Has he set the date to be waterboarded yet? You know, for the troops? __________________________________________________ @Fair is Fair: What is your take on why we are in Iraq? @J.P.,

Where is your hero Hannity? Has he set the date to be waterboarded yet? You know, for the troops?
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@Fair is Fair:

What is your take on why we are in Iraq?

]]> By: Cruzan Obama Mama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643994 Cruzan Obama Mama Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:57:20 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643994 Some of the comments made on here is exactly why Americans are viewed so negatively around the world. If all of these memos are true the US violated UN laws/rules. The US is not better than any other country in the world that is part of the UN. It is immoral and unethical for us not to investigate & prosecute these crimes. If anything Spain is trying to say that we need to get our butts in gear and do what needs to be done to find out what really happened. Americans need to step away from the mentality that we are better than everyone else in the world. Just like any other country we have our faults. Some of the comments made on here is exactly why Americans are viewed so negatively around the world. If all of these memos are true the US violated UN laws/rules. The US is not better than any other country in the world that is part of the UN. It is immoral and unethical for us not to investigate & prosecute these crimes. If anything Spain is trying to say that we need to get our butts in gear and do what needs to be done to find out what really happened.

Americans need to step away from the mentality that we are better than everyone else in the world. Just like any other country we have our faults.

]]> By: ray ray http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643991 ray ray Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:56:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643991 If one US citizen is extradited to Spain (or any other country) for a show-trial... ALL-HELL will break loose in this country. Certainly our justice system is not perfect... but it is sufficient to judge our own citizens. We will not stand to see an American paraded in another countries court.... EVEN IF IT WAS NANCY PELOSI. If one US citizen is extradited to Spain (or any other country) for a show-trial... ALL-HELL will break loose in this country.

Certainly our justice system is not perfect... but it is sufficient to judge our own citizens. We will not stand to see an American paraded in another countries court.... EVEN IF IT WAS NANCY PELOSI.

]]> By: RAG http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643980 RAG Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:54:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643980 Thanks the Lord that there is SOME judiciary left in the world with the moral judgement to bring these criminals to justice. Thanks the Lord that there is SOME judiciary left in the world with the moral judgement to bring these criminals to justice.

]]> By: Neuroperson http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643955 Neuroperson Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:51:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643955 Spain should prosecute itself for its treatment of the Basque first. What hypocricy. Also, I suspect life was infinately better for any Guantanamo inmate as compared to living in the Afgan caves without food or water. Get a grip. All the infintile liberals on this blog believe war criminals bent on the destruction of America deserve the same freedoms and priveleges that American citizens do. They dont. Read the Constitution. IF you belive it, thats fine, but its just your belief, like Scientology. Spain should prosecute itself for its treatment of the Basque first. What hypocricy.

Also, I suspect life was infinately better for any Guantanamo inmate as compared to living in the Afgan caves without food or water. Get a grip. All the infintile liberals on this blog believe war criminals bent on the destruction of America deserve the same freedoms and priveleges that American citizens do. They dont. Read the Constitution. IF you belive it, thats fine, but its just your belief, like Scientology.

]]> By: sugandha http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643951 sugandha Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:50:48 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643951 This is evidence enough that the release of memos was a grave mistake. Now US should have to spend tax payers dollars in defending its actions to the world. What a shame? This is evidence enough that the release of memos was a grave mistake. Now US should have to spend tax payers dollars in defending its actions to the world. What a shame?

]]> By: Stu-Florida http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643947 Stu-Florida Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:50:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643947 Has Spain actually convicted any terrorists??? This is our (USA) business... they should mind theirs! Has Spain actually convicted any terrorists???

This is our (USA) business... they should mind theirs!

]]> By: Lawrence http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643933 Lawrence Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:49:05 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643933 It is a sad day in US history when a US President says nothing when a judge from Spain says he wants to investigate our violations of human rights and international law. Shame on Obama. Obama has squandered our moral authority. It is a sad day in US history when a US President says nothing when a judge from Spain says he wants to investigate our violations of human rights and international law. Shame on Obama. Obama has squandered our moral authority.

]]> By: Phil http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643932 Phil Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:48:57 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643932 How quickly people forget about what these terrorists did to us and continue to do around the world. How quickly people forget about what these terrorists did to us and continue to do around the world.

]]> By: ron http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643926 ron Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:47:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643926 Yes, your honor, I was tortured. Tortured, I tell you! j.p. It is true I was forced to eat three culturally-sensitive halal meals each day. It is also true I was subjected to the torturous rigors of heating, air conditioning and ventilation systems. I was forced to NOT live in a cave in the elements. I was forced to use modern, indoor plumbing and use some devil creation I'd never heard of before called "toilet paper." I was even subjected to the use of a prayer rug and my book of worship. And worst of all, I did NOT have my head sawed off while other stood about me chanting praises to God. Oh the horrors of these Western Devils! ____________________________________________ Like the slaves right j.p. They got a free cruise, they were fed and given shelter what he hell do they have to complain about. Typical republican mentality. Unbelievable. You should be arrested for being so stupid. Yes, your honor, I was tortured. Tortured, I tell you!
j.p.
It is true I was forced to eat three culturally-sensitive halal meals each day. It is also true I was subjected to the torturous rigors of heating, air conditioning and ventilation systems. I was forced to NOT live in a cave in the elements. I was forced to use modern, indoor plumbing and use some devil creation I'd never heard of before called "toilet paper."

I was even subjected to the use of a prayer rug and my book of worship. And worst of all, I did NOT have my head sawed off while other stood about me chanting praises to God. Oh the horrors of these Western Devils!
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Like the slaves right j.p. They got a free cruise, they were fed and given shelter what he hell do they have to complain about. Typical republican mentality. Unbelievable. You should be arrested for being so stupid.

]]> By: Spain can pound sand http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/29/spanish-judge-orders-guantanamo-torture-probe/#comment-2643919 Spain can pound sand Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:46:29 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?p=49467#comment-2643919 Who gives a tinkers darn what any Spanish judge says about the US. If they want to convene an investigation, they can pound sand ...... The last country the US should be listening to are the Spainards ------ we should expel their diplomat form the US And if Obama does not stand up and say something, he is crazy. No foreign country should be allowed to investigate any former US president's administration. It is a dangerous precedent to be setting Wake up Oblamo and defend your country and its former Presidents Who gives a tinkers darn what any Spanish judge says about the US. If they want to convene an investigation, they can pound sand ...... The last country the US should be listening to are the Spainards -- we should expel their diplomat form the US

And if Obama does not stand up and say something, he is crazy. No foreign country should be allowed to investigate any former US president's administration. It is a dangerous precedent to be setting

Wake up Oblamo and defend your country and its former Presidents

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