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[...] "Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime. And if the speaker is accusing the CIA and other intelligence officials of lying or misleading the Congress, then she should come forward with evidence and turn that over to the Justice Department so they can be prosecuted. And if that's not the case, I think she ought to apologize to our intelligence professionals around the world." – House Minority Leader John Boehner on CNN's "State of the Union" Read more of Boehner's comments [...]

[...] CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive – GOP leader on Pelosi’s claim.... [...]

One interview gets four individual stories ? Do you get paid by the inch ? Is Boehner so profound that each statement warrants it's own distinct story ? This smells like FOX Noise.

I'm soooo sick of hearing from disgruntled Republicans. They're all looking like idiots.

GOP Strategy: Bag on Pelosi about whether or not she knew about something (possibly illegal and certainly immoral) THE GOP WAS DOING. Hey, look over here! look at what Pelosi did! Ignore our skeletons, please...

...as Bush, Cheney and Rove head for the nearest plane to Paraguay.

fredrick...was pelosi's husband shooting off his mouth about national security issues? if so...she shouldn't apologize. i guess i see your logic.

Democrats seem to think that two wrongs make a right-that's stupid !

We have turned into a nation of hypocrites. The same people who are outraged by harsh treatment of terrorists (that want to kill us) will not lift a finger to protect the life of an innocent baby in his mother's womb. A woman, for convenience, can have her baby killed in a horrific way as long as it is in her womb. Perhaps if babies in the womb were declared terrorists then Pelosi and Obama would come to their rescue making sure there are not harshly treated. Torture is wrong and so is killing babies, if we are outraged by torture then we should be outraged by the in humane killing of babies in their mother's womb. Anything less is putting our politics before our conscience.

The CIA chief said Pelosi was lying so I guess they both need to proove who is telling the truth. Boehner did called out both of them to proove there arguement right. Nope, just politics as usual.

If you want an investigation then start at the beginning with Bush, Cheney and their staff about approving torture.

What is up with this epidemic of people demanding that someone else apologize? That would make for about a billion shallow, insincere apologies, wouldn't it? Let people make their own, when they're ready, and when they actually mean it.

Whether you are a democrat or republican, you should want to know the truth and if what Pelosi is saying is true, than we should know. But if it is found out she lied about being lied to, she should have to step down and apologize.

Liberalls want to live in the safe world that Bush provided for them but now they want to bash him for the techniques he used. If Pelosi was briefed in full about the EIT's and did not speak up about them .... she is just as much to blame as the attorneys who approved them.

I have been and still am a supporter of President Obama and I have long held and maintained that Speaker Nancy Pelosi was going to be a problem for the Democratic Party and now she is causing problems for the President that he does not need on his plate. I do not know if she is lying or not as I have no proof that she is or that she isn't but I have my opinion.

I do acknowledge that it would be hard for her to prove her case as no notes could be taken in the briefing except by the CIA whose purpose is to act as a covert agency for the US Government and by it's very nature, it must lie and deceive many times to achieve it's mission. I do not think this issue is going to go away so in the best interest of the government, I think she should resign. She does not have to admit that she was deceived or that she lied but simply that she is going to resign because it is in the best interest of the nation.

GOP hypocrisy has no limits. The bottom line here is that it does not matter if she was briefed or not, she was not the one to order torture; she could not speak out because these briefings happen to be classified, and you are not supposed to say: "Have you heard the latest from the CIA? It seems that they are using some enhanced techniques to interrogate those guys down there in Guantanamo".

The reality is that Bush, Cheney and company should be investigated and should answered some questions instead of blaming everything on others. This has been their strategy,blame the other guy of doing the same than us.

Bottom line is waterboarding (torture) is wrong wrong wrong. Who was res[ponsible for it. We all know the answer.

You've got to hand it to the Republicans, they're the best at the old bait and switch. Breaking international law is now Nancy Pelosi's fault! Theirs is a party of exclusive, opportunistic culture warriors who will stop at nothing to provide a useless "gas tax holiday" as the solution to everything.

Who cares the GOP is thowing up anything to stop the fact it was the President Bush and Vice President Cheney who ordered the dishonard of this country with their shamless act of cowardness!

Bottom line is waterboarding (torture) is wrong wrong wrong. Who was res[ponsible for it. We all know the answer.

Well, just when are the repubs going to apologize for ruining the country in the last eight years???????

After the Bush/Cheney 'Bad Intelligence' war that about broke our country financially (however Cheney came out quite well), I do not believe anything that came out of the failed GOP administration and its "Intelligence" from this period of time.

Never been a fan of Pelosi nor Reid. Would like to see them replaced with better class of leader, although I know those are in short supply.

If the CIA lied to Pelosi and congress then it stands to reason that they also lied to Bush and his administration, which would vindicate Bush,Chaney and everyone that supported the war and America owes them an apology.
If Pelosi can make her case that she was lied to, she should provide the truth and the CIA should be dealt with to the full extent of the law.
If Pelosi is lying she should be dealt with in the same manner.

Most importantly, how does Boehner keep that perfect tan.

If lying to Congress is a crime then it should sant to reason the Nacy Pelosi has also commited a crime and should be held accountable as well. she should have to produce proof she was lied to and if she is lying herself then she shoulld suffer the consequence.

So Nancy Pesli is responsible for the cia and milatery torturing but not the Buch gang? Did not know that pessoli had that much power before she became speaker of the house! After all most of the torture took place before she became speaker of the house. Where were the republicans when cheney outed MS. Plume? Oh thats right it was republicans outing her so that was not a crime even though all of her family lifves have been put in danger.You can only lie cheat steal and endanger people lives if you are a republican,because only republicans are above the law. Laws are made for everone but republicans. I bet bohner knew more hen Pesoli.

If the Speaker was a Republican, we wouldn't hear a whisper from Boehner. In fact, anyone that would raise that question, would be considered unpatriotic. If you look up 'hypocrisy" in the dictionary, it would refer you to "GOP".

The point SHOULD be that the President, Vice President, and others in the Executive Branch of the United States Government appeared to have lied to the American people, and may have broken the law and violated the Constitution. That's a whole lot more important than what happened in a top secret meeting with Congressional representatives who couldn't have done anything about it, anyway!

We need an independent prosecutor to investigate, and let justice prevail! Let the chips fall where they may. Whoever did anything wrong needs to be held accountable. We are a country of laws, not a cult of personality. Anything less is UNAMERICAN.

Don't let the republicans and their media shills deflect attention away from the architects of America's torture program. Pelosi is not even a bit player in the implementation and commission of the Bush-Cheney war crimes. All his huffery-puffery about CIA briefings is just a distraction from efforts to bring the perpetrators to justice.

Why isn't the GOP demanding an apology from former Senator Bob Graham, a man who is known for making meticulous notes at meetings, stating that he also was not notified about torture being used at the 2002 briefings?

It is interesting that CNN and politics as usual for Rep. John King, to ignore the torture and fall in step with the GOP talking points and diversion from the real issue: that Bush and Cheney authorized torture and call Cheney on his undocumented claims that they saved "hundreds of thousands of lives".

If that is "true", he obviously would be able to produce the details; such a momentous saving of lives would be something that the Bush administration would have been leaked long ago.

America is well aware of how Georgie neutered Congress and did as he wished, so poo-pooing Pelosi was easy to image, the CIA simply acted as instructed. I was dissappointed the she didn't impeach him but nothing could be done with torture accusations because who could she tell Wolf Blitzer??? The WH didn't care, the press was impotent, the voters were struggling to survive, so what???

Perhaps Barack Obama should apologize for not thinking of the possible incrimination of complicity within his own party when he released the initial CIA memos.

Nancy Pelosi didn't institute torture as a national policy, nor did she order anyone to be tortured.

The same can't be said for the top members of the Bush II regime.

We toppled Saddam Hussein and hunted his lackies down like dogs in part because they practiced some of the same barbaric policies advocated by Bush, Cheney, and Rice.

Investigate to find out who knew what when, who ordered what when, and who did what when. Let the chips fall where they may. Then indict the ones found responsible and afford them the benefits of the American justice system to defend themselves. The same rights they so insistently and wrongheadedly denied to others.

Because we're Americans and we are better than they are.

Speaker Pelosi is trying way too hard- this is absolutely ridiculous. How dare she accuse an agency that works to protect the security interests of this nation with charges of fraud, deception, and lieing. This is just absurd, not to mention the fact that her stories constantly change. To all you Liberals out there: stop be blinded by Pelosi's awfully wide grin and enameled reflection, realize that she isn't actually that much of a Democrat, and that she is almost entirely motivated by self-interest. Also, learn to compose coherent thoughts and statements while you're at it. The point is that this is not a partisan issue; therefore, Democrats, stop using your typical "Republicans are to blame for everything, they are the 'Party of No'" tactics and realize that a supposed party leader is lieing to the nation. It's interesting how the one to blame is always so quick to point fingers.

Pelosi doesn't have to prove her innocence. Boehner has to prove her guilt, which he can't do...obviously. This article is promoting more Republican attempts at deflecting attention away from themselves for their illegal torture stance!

Boehner. Burden of proof is on the accuser not the one being accused. Tell the CIA to provide proof or they should shut up. Face it, Dems and Repubs are all liars and full of crap. Once again this a partisan issue. If Pelosi lied what damage did it cause? Most of you crying about her lying don't think waterboarding is torture so what is the big deal then? Quit being drama queens and let's work on looking to the future and not dwell on the past which is the problem that too many of us have.

Instead of Pelosi proving to anyone that the CIA wasn't completely honest, let's have the CIA prove that they told Congress that they knowingly, willingly, with forethought and with the blessing of the president broke/defied international laws and treaties and tortured people AND that they told Congress every single detail of what they had done, were doing and were planning to do.

If the CIA did admit to Congress that they were committing these crimes with full disclosure like they're claiming, then that means there are a lot of other problems that need to be addressed, the people tried and convicted. There's everything from committing treason to aiding and abetting known felonies. There's harboring criminals such as the ones who committed the torture at Gitmo.

IF the CIA did tell Congress that they were guilty of such criminal actions, then why are these particular individuals not under arrest?

Fredrik May 17th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

The GOP is demanding that Pelosi apologize.

How about she apologize AS SOON AS Bush/Cheney and the GOP apologize for outing a CIA agent, Valeri Plame?

AMEN!

I'm a democrat and very supportive of Obama. Nancy Pelosi, though, is very divisive and a thorn in the side of progress. She should either bow out or get kicked out. She doesn't lie any better than Palin does.

The best way to resolve this issue along with entire torture mess is to have a full investigation and drag all the skeletons and dirty laundry out into the day light of public exposure in order to let the chips fall where they may. Those who are guilty of lying or other deceptions will be properly punished and/or shamed and those who aren't lying or deceiving will be vindicated.

Any innocent man never fears the truth.

Until that happens, all the present juvenile yapping by Dems and Pubbies is just so much additional background noise distracting the congress from accomplishing anything of significance.

Yawn...

They told her they were using 'alternative tactics' ... they didn't tell her they were TORTURING !!!! OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY PEOPLE TRYING TO ESCAPE TORTURE AND DICTATORSHIP ...for they repugs to endorse torture is turing away from the very basis of our founding fathers ... repugs should be treated as traitors to our nation

If lying to Congress is a crime, who do we prosecute for the war in Iraq? Bush, Cheney, the CIA, or all three?

We DO KNOW the CIA lied to the American public for seven years by denying they used water boarding and who authorized it. It wasn't until January 2009 that Cheney admitted the White House had authorized the use of water boarding. Further, at the time Republicans claim the CIA told Polosi about water boarding, she wasn't Speaker of the House, so what could she have doen about it? My guess is had she said anything to reveal they were using water boarding they would have citied her for revealing classified information.

If the ther color guy, Boehner wants Nancy Pelosis to apologize, then I want Bush and Cheney to go before this country and apologize for that awful, terrible Iraq war, apologize to the families of the four thousand or more soldiers we lost. Apologize for leaving this doggone terrible economy mess behind for Obama to try to clean up. Apologize for torturing and destroying our standing in the world. Have I left anything out?

Frederik,

Richard Armitage released Valerie plame's name. Fitzgerald knew that from start and went on prosecuting a case just to get Someone from the administration to fall. He got scooter libby and finally wrapped up his investigations. Give me a break. Pelosi shoudl apologize or prove evidence. Do you remember her words during 2006 election, "honesty, integrity and accountability"?

If Nancy Pelosi is lying to save her -, then she should be thrown out. But, if the CIA is lying then the people who lied or misled her and many others, should be punished accordingly. Every government agency has lied to the American people........most of them just haven't been caught doing it!

We don't know what the CIA told Polosi because we weren't at the briefings. HOWEVER, we DO KNOW the CIA

Pelosi is a political animal. She has distorted the truth and should resign or be removed. At a time when our country is facing huge problems representatives like her only complicate the situation and make things worse.

Didn't Bush/Cheney deny using water boarding for seven years? Is it a crime for the pesident and vice president to lie to congress. What about Senator Bob Graham who also said the CIA did not inform him that they were using water boarding? The meida is allowing Republcans to use the media to divert attention away from the FACT that Bush/Cheney violated internatinal law by using interrogation techniques that are in voilation of the Geneva Convention, for the purpose of getting detainees to say things that supported their desire to invade Iraq and had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

I complety agree. Pelosi is behaving in a totally desctuctive manner.

What she should do it shut up before she brings even more heat on herself. She has changed the story from a story about torture to a story about herself. And she's at risk of derailing this Administration's agenda by continually harping on an issue that Americans don't feel that passionately about.

We would rather see our politicians focus on today's problems. Let's stop trying to exact vengence and move forward instead.

Just the GOP trying desperately to drag a red herring across the scent of war criminals.

So how about Bush, Cheney, and the rest of that gang and their lies to Congress? Where's the calls for prosecution for their lies about Iraq that got us into that quagmire. What a hypocrite!

Even if Pelosi knew about the waterboarding (and then lied about knowing) she still wasn't the one who ordered or administered the inexcusable torture! No brainer here folks. Go after Bush, Cheney, any responsible CIA agents, attorneys, etc. THEY are the culpable ones. If the Republicans don't shut up soon the can of worms will be opened and prosecutions will follow. Idiots!!!

What is needed is a complete investigation of the Bush Administration and not a selective investigation like the Repugs want of Rep Nancy Pelosi. We need to look at the deal made with the pharmaceutical community, the health care community and the defense community. We need to know the total truth as to how we got into the Iraq War and what impact the Neo Cons had in the Bush administration. Lets investigate all the things for which the public has questions.

I am sick and tired of the Repugs acting like they did no wrong. They are on the news daring the Democrats to do anything about the wrong they did for eight years. They have been defiant and it is time for their legs to be cut off.

@Karen May 17th, 2009 12:56 pm ET
You are SOOOO Right !!!Best Post of the DAY!!!!

Why is so far-fetched that the agencies would lie to Congress? They did a grand job of deceiving Congress over the WMDs that Iraq "definitely" had...at the about same time as this issue would have been lied about.

GOP has some nerves to go after Pelosi for all the mess Bush and the rest of the gang did! Outrageous! Maybe it's really time to go after all those GOP criminals by now. They ruin the country, outsourced most job, devalued the one that are left, and bark over spending, while they spend like there was no tomorrow!

Time to go after the real liars Bush and Cheney who profited over the war and fabricated lies that allow them to do it, ah what about Rumsfield? Back off GOP... liars, and corrupt crooks, who again show that they only look for desperate measures so they can gain power and rip people off all over again!

Nancy Pelosi is one of the most dangerous politicians in DC. Thus far President Obama has not been able to control her. At this point the Administration has been very silent on the issue, with the exception of the CIA Director. Does anyone actually believ that he spoke out without tacit approval of the White House?

BTW W is no longer in office.

So now Bush/Cheney's lies about Iraq are Nancy Pelosi's fault? Shut up, Boehner! You have yet to say anything worth listening to, and I'm not holding my breath waiting for the first time. The GOP is one of the following every moment of every day: (a) irrelevant or (b) full of garbage. The other alternative, of course is (c) both.

first: Pelosi has asked that All transcripts from these proceedings should be released; Full disclosure

Speaker Pelosi. I'm quoting what the head of the CIA has said. We don't know if this information is accurate that he's talking about. What they briefed us on - and perhaps they should release the briefings. I would be very happy if they would release the briefings, and then you will see what they briefed at one time, at one time and another, to the House and Senate and the rest. Perhaps with the intense interest that this has generated because of the distraction that the Republicans want to cause with this, then you can make a judgment yourself about what you think these briefings were. But I'm telling you that they talked about interrogations that they had done and said: We want to use enhanced techniques, and we have legal opinions that say that they are okay. We are not using waterboarding.

second: 4500 soldiers are dead because of the Bush/Cheney lie anbd than Bush jokes about not finding WMD's during the Whitehouse correspondents dinner.

Valera Plain was outed by Richard Armitage liberals. Please pay attention he finally had to admit it. The drive by media forgets to point that out. Not Bush or Cheney but a democrate, just like Pelosi he is a liar.

The proof will be more laudable and can only be done in a truth commission. But the GOP is so scared of it.

When you republicans find the weapons of mass destruction, then maybe only then Nancy may aoplogise. You republicans are digging your own hole deeper and deeper. Bob Grahm says the same thing.
Newt go lay down, and think how big of a hypocrit you are.

Maybe it's me....but I think 'just apologizing' is not satisfying for the public...there is a 'real' credibility issue here....did she lie, did she not? I want truths. I don't think it realistic to maintain that authority role if there is not complete truthfulness...it's decietful to the public and our tax dollars which pay the salary.

First things first, Boner. Let's examine the lies of the Bush Administration and prosecute those who blatantly broke the laws and maybe we'll get back to you on the Pelosi thing.

The Repugnant party owes the US citizenry an apology for the mess their votes put this country in. I am really hoping that incumbents in both parties get their butts kicked next election.

no apologies necessary from the nut case, just leave and go back to San Fran......You libs are so in the dark about what's right and wrong, and what's necessary to protect the country. Having been there, and now retired, it's a shame that the country I defended has let this administration into play; it shows the degradation of our country into a 3rd world, no class country.....OBama's ruining the US on a daily basis...

In 2006, bonehead said he did not believe the information that was coming out of the CIA in an interview with CNN..

should he apologize also, or is he being a hollowing hypocrites like the rest of his party?

I tend to agree with some in the political world as they demand evidence from Ms Pelosi. I lost all respect for her as a politician or member of Congress when she joined forces with Sen. Reid and refused to process various complaints/alleged crimes of Bush and Cheney. Campaigning on an honmesty and accountability theme, she then turned and crawled into their political beds and refused to bring anything to the floors of Congress.

Bush and Cheney will hopefully someday see the inside of prison walls as their new home because of their lies, meanderings, distortions, crimes against society, and so forth. But, Pelosi shares in that situation because instead of delivering on campaign promises, she and Sen. Reid became bosom buddies with Bush the deceiver.

So, in the minds of Republicans, it is impossible for the CIA to provide misleading information to politicians. How did we end up in Iraq then? Was the Bush Administration not misled by the bogus intelligence about weapons of mass destruction that served as justification for the Iraq war? Did the Bush Administration knew the truth but went ahead with the war anyway?

Politics is politics...you better be able to take it if you can give it...so
get over it and move on to get us out of this economic turmoil.

Gringo, I agree. Your comments deserve repeating; "End result no matter which scenerio: Pelosi should be removed, she has been nothing more than an obstructionist, left wing radical isolating fellow Democrats and has presented obstacles to Obama and his efforts to bridge partsian bridges. And after her Reid should go."
Pelosi and Reid are a major part of the problem, Dems need to find people to replace them who are not so leftist and partisan.

Aldolph Cheney is squirming like a cat on a hot tin roof. Forget the misdirection play to the speaker. Keep the spotlight right on Cheney to show all of his dirty deeds. Torture is just the tip of the iceberg.

do we have firing squads in the U.S. of A.?............then put every repugnant reptile, CON servatives, religious fanatics-evangelical devils-and every single ignorant blogger here in this forum in front of the rifles, they are the cancers in this society and should be incinerated............

I love how the Rush Limbaugh Party is outraged over whether Pelosi new or not knew about Bush's illegal torture and not outraged about illegal torture.

G really Old Party it too daft to realize that an investigation of Polosi is an investigation of Bush and Cheney torture. Are these guys that stupid, or do they think the American people are that stupid?

Yeah, the same thing that we said to Bush about the weapons of mass destruction debacle.

Pelosi a fair weather friend. She has but one conviction – herself.

She should apologize the day Bush, Cheney are sent to Prison for war crimes. Morons.

LUDICROUS !!!!! I suppose Cheney, Bush, and all the other yahoos stand exonerated while Nancy Pelosi gets to be the scapegoat???
One consistency: you can always depend on politics to provide enough "smoke & mirrors" rhetoric to defer the blame long enough to confuse the American public. The time is here – WAKE UP AMERICA – this lot (Repugs) is NOT interested in the common good and advancement of this nation ...they are only interested in protecting their own sorry behinds and doing whatever necessary to have people believe that the evil & lies are coming from the other party !!! Haven't we been manipulated and lied-to long enough ????

Not sure what Nancy knew or not but that is not the question... The question is why Bush/Cheney approved torture. And Boehner is hardly a person to question anyone. He is posturing for make a run for President and all he is ... is noise.

So with all of this desperately faux attention from Republicans on Pelosi, are they finally ADMITTING that their torture policies are WRONG?!

What difference does it make if she knew or not? I doubt she could have ordered both Idiots to stop. Is this all the Republicans have

You libs are CRAZYand anti-American. You have all forgotten how you felt after 9/11. Everyone was afraid. Quit with the WMD lies you say only came from Bush. There were plenty of high ranking Dems that agreed, like Bill Clinton, etc.
Waterboarding is not torture. Our military goes through it because others use it, and the others do not have Drs. standing by to check on the well being of those being waterboarded. These are terrorists we are talking about, people. They would slit your throat or blow you up in a New York minute. Nancy Pelosi is trying to save face because she is a lying hack that does not want her constituents to see her REAL side.

I'm not crazy about Pelosi but when Bob Graham says he was not told about waterboarding either, he's telling the truth. I believe him 100 % as an honorable man. Let's hear the CIA say he is lying also!
Besides, let's go after the war criminals; Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, et al and not be distracted by this bunk.

The GOP is demanding that Pelosi apologize.

How about she apologize AS SOON AS Bush/Cheney and the GOP apologize for outing a CIA agent, Valeri Plame?

Maybe she knew only what the Republicans wanted her to know but why not submit the MEMO's to show that she got this in writing, because the Repubs can be lieing as well as Pelosi. Either way no one will ever know because the Repubs wants Obama to fail. Repubs try to enhance your group to become respectful and willing to help this African American President or continue to suppress his views and ways to make this country better. Repubs learn from your own mistakes, because if you have notice it or not, BUSH is not a Republican anyone, he is a Bushian who don't care about this country or what has happen in the last 8 years.

CNN, please post:

I am not suprised by the posts I see. In fact, as far as I am concerned, it just shows how uninformed CNN viewers are. With that said, I would think that EVERYONE here would want to know the truth if the CIA was lying to Congress. If they are lying to Congress, they must be lying to the citizens. A CIA that lies is not in anyones best interest. But instead CNN viewers take this opportunity to politicize this. If you are an R or a D, if the CIA is lying we all should want the truth. Pelosi needs to prove the CIA lied to her, or she needs to apologize and step down. A lying speaker is not what is in our best interest.

And finally, a metaphor. A teenager is going out on saturday night. His curfew is midnight. As he is walking out the door, he tells his Mom that he will be home at 2am. The Mom nods in acknowledgement, and the teenager walks out the door. The teenager comes home at 2am, and the Mom goes balistic for him not being home at midnight. The Mom has no right to complain, she was made aware of the situation and did not complain or express dissatisfaction.

Insert the players as you see fit. Oh, and one more thing. The definition of torture is an act that causes long term psychological or physical problems. Does waterboarding? I would guess not, and can see why GWB would think the same. Physically, there is no doubt it does no longterm harm. Psychologically, my guess, no worse than any situation where you almost die. Getting shot at would probably cause the same psychological problems, but, I aint no Dr. : )

Who cares who knew and when, the point is it was done, it was wrong! Admit that, apologize, and move on. There is no need to further exploit the people we tortured by flashing there pictures all over the news. That only enrages people and plants ideas in the minds of evil people. The president is not a flip flopper! Open mined people, given new information, gain more insight which awakens new ideas. Stop trying to close the President up in a tiny "no" box, where only the party of no lives! There minds are too narrow to conceive a new idea based on new information. They just stick with plan "A " (NO) even though the rest of the world has moved on. NO NEW IDEAS, NO PARTY LEADERS, NO PLANS TO GET US OUT OF THE BOAT THEY PUT US IN AND NO MIJORITY ANYWHERE! THEY LOOK FOR CHANGE BUT ONLY IN THEIR OWN POCKETS! I do want that party to get it together, it's no fun watching them pick silly fights. If they were back in charge, Heck yea, I'd feel less safe. A wise man chooses his battles, they fight about everything! The right is so wrong!!!!! The election results prove that yet your guys still think you're speaking for AMERICA! Wake up and Snap out of it!!!
P.S. Ronald is dead so let him rests, please!

Just one more prime example of the extremes to which "Nancy Pants" will go in order to dupe the public into thinking that she is doing her job.

Sorry Nancy – most of us are pretty much sick and tired of you and your charades, which we all know by now are just a thinly veiled attempt to cover up your glaring incompetence.

Do us all a favor and step down so that we can see some true leadership once again.

so its a crime to lie to congress but not to the american people. the bush adminisration lied so why not prosecute them. they broke the law.oh thats right they made the law fit so that it would't be against the law.

I think it is amusing that people explain their version of how this situation probably went down or will point the finger at someone else that did worst. Let's deal with the situation in isolation and ignore politics. If she lied about what she was told, then there should be consequences. If she was misled, then whoever misled her should have consequences. Find the facts and stop aquitting her without asking for evidence or lynching her before we know more.

People drink way too much Kool-Aid in this country. Who cares what Bush did or what Hitler did or what Stalin did. The question is what Pelosi knew and whether she lied. Just because someone else may have done worse and wasn't punished doesn't free her of responsibility.

Once again, the republican slight of hand, they try to put your focus on one thing so they can attempt to escape any liability whatsoever. If they are so 'dead set' on Pelosi, fine....but lets start the investigation at the top and all the Republicans who were in power, this falls at THEIR doorstep, they had power, they were responsible. Start the investigations there, where they RIGHTFULLY belong, then you can work your way down instead of starting at the bottom and passing the buck.

PELOSI IS A GREAT LEADER
Pelosi never Lied.
Pelosi is not a Liar.

Suppose even if she lied, no body is harmed.

When Bush and Cheney Lied about Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction:

1. 4200 US Troops Died.
2. 46000 US Troops got injured.
3. 100000 Iraqis got killed.
4. Billions of Dollars spent on War.

Pelosi has my Support. Go Pelosi Go.
Put all these Criminals in Jail.
These Criminals will always hate you.

acceptorchange May 17th, 2009 12:25 pm ET

So what is wrong with waterboarding if it saves American lives. War is WAR. When did it become like a kid's game to be played by certain rules? The real issue, to me, is if your loved ones lives could be saved by waterboarding someone who was being held for PROBABLE CAUSE, would the waterboarding still seem wrong to you?

Yes, it is still wrong! Torturing another human being is against God's law, international law, and US law. The reason for that is that no credible information is gotten by dehumanizing someone. The two guys who were tortured the most were giving plenty of information to interrogators under normal means, but they were not making the case for an Iraq-9/11 connection, so Cheney ordered them tortured...and they still did not say what he wanted, because there IS no connection! This was all a big fantasy so Bush could look like a cowboy give money to his no-bid contractor friends, and kill people. Torture is wrong. Period.

And life is not "24." I think that show is a Republican torture propaganda machine...sick.

Absolutely amazing, Bush, Cheney and Rice Ok's waterboarding and other torture and the American Media climb all over Nancy Pellosi!!
What kind of a media are you?? You let that administration do whatever they wanted for 8 years without saying BOO, including an unjustified WAR and now you are shooting a non-messenger!!
What a farce!!

It is a LIE to say that the Bush Administration "lied about WMD in Iraq." The CIA told the President that such weapons WERE in Iraq. Acting on faulty intelligence is NOT lying.

Republicans are just as guilty so if they want her prosecuted they need to be standing right with her faceing the same music this is wrong trying to get what they want once more.

I actually saw her recent Press Conference......It was like watching a Train Wreck! I think she's as dumb as a post! As an American, I was embarrassed!

Great joke on Leno this week. He says, "Pelosi spent 8 years telling us how stupid Bush was, and now she says, 'He tricked me!'"

This is all set up to become a trade off – the Dems don't want further problems for the Speaker, and the Repubs don't want attempts to prosecute anyone for torture. Sounds like they will all agree to just walk away from all of it.

Again, these are the hypocrits who said that the CIA's "faulty intelligence" was at fault when we found no WMDs. If we do not ratcher down the politics, and actually work to get things done TOGETHER, we are doomed.

I'm with Scott Larson. We should put everyone on "trail", whatever that means. What the heck, it couldn't hurt. When everyone is on "trail", they can walk wherever they want.

If a lie is defined as NOT only NOT telling the truth, but not telling the whole truth, than the C.I.A. has NOT only lied to Pelosi, but Bob Graham and many other representatives of Congress as to their own testimonials. This whole concept of congressional oversight for the C.I.A. by these briefings is rather bizarre, since the representatives of Congress aren't allowed to take notes, ask questions, discuss anything with anyone because it is all top secret. How is that oversight? It would appear that Congress needs more powers in this regard if they are to take their oversight seriously and to be able to hold the C.I.A. accountable for their actions, if that be deemed part of the oversight function, which is usually what oversight entails.

Humm...let's see here Demy's, you're so quick to bash Bush, Cheny and the Republicans for lying...a few Democrats comments: I did not have sex with that woman...I didn't know the Rev Wright was a racist...I didn't know my staff I chose were tax cheats...want me to go on? Pot calling the kettle black seems to me!

Oh my the libs are in quite a quandry aren't they? They've been screaming "Republicans lie" for years, and now that there's a possiblity that the left is just as prolific at bending the truth, do they yell "Democrats lie"? Of course not! Get off your sanctimonious high horse and admit it – the left is just as bad as the right!!!!

How's this for proof: Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and George Tenent, Bush's CIA chief, all lied to Congress and the American people about everything leading up to the war in Iraq, and Colin Powell who, in spite of his objections, delivered the Bush and Tenent lies before the United Nations. The American people are owed an apology all right and perhaps we'll even listen, after they're prosecuted. Colin Powell could well be the star witness for the prosecution.

If Pelosi knew about waterboarding, then it is a crime and terrible torture.
If she didn't then it's a valuable tool that's saved millions of lives.
Riiigght.

I don't think the Republicans began this media event. I think this is a Lou Dobbs thing. I saw King's interview with Boehner, and he did not want to go there. King had to pull what was basically a non-answer out of him. I question the ethics of using that particular answer that was drug out of the interviewee to headline a story. It was not what Boehner was there for. It was the only time I have felt sorry for him. Lou has had a hard-on for Pelosi for a long time. Who knows why? I think CNN should quit trying to breathe life into this still-born story. The real ethical question now is about CNN. I hope Pelosi ignores it. It will go away in a few days.

HEY GUYS THERE WAS 40 BRIEFINGS IN WHICH 30 different DEms were in hearing the harsh interrogations.
I'm so ashamed of my father's party – he'd be so upset if alive. Punish good AMericans that keep us safe, kill babies, kill a fetus (word fetus means life, the true English meaning) and say "we are here to help:"
Makes me sick and have become an Independent.
Tom & Lois
Colorado

to 'thetruth'.

Couple of clarifications:

1) The entire intelligence community throughout the world knew Iraq had WMD's. Yes everyone. Show us one or put those talking points away. Even the UN believe that........that's why they passed resolution after resolution.

2) Mission was accomplished. The US military had conquered the Iraqi military in record time. Something to be proud of, not ashamed of. If you are an american, of course.

3) Colin Powell has never been known to do something against his will.

And the entire waterboarding situation keeps front and center because of liberals and morons like you. Sounds like your Dem friends knew about them as well but did not do anything at the time. That's something you're going to have to deal with. Get over it. It saved lives. Thank goodness. And it was applied sparingly.

shnarf, shnarf

Pelosi is third in line for President, what a frightening thought.
Jane J
Nevada

Why is Nancy Pelosi taking most of the heat for something the Bush/Cheney administration did? This blame game our elected officials play out in public time and again has to stop. Can't we at least expect a reasonable level of maturity from our elected officials? And do Republicans really want to be pointing fingers right now?

So called AMericans who don't want to save the lives of AMericans by waterboarding (which are ARmed forces do as a training excercise) perhaps live in the wrong Country. We had spies in World War two in the Politiical world than as well, MR. White and others.
Pelosi is a forced smiling fake, and she's lying through her false teeth.
Jack C
WA

Why Mr. Boehner, if we follow your ideas, we should call in Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, Yoo, and all the rest for lying to Congress as well, should we not? According to you, they have committed crimes, and must be held accountable. I KNEW a Republican could say something that made sense.

the day Alex Castacrap mouth changes party to Democrate will tell the country that the republicans are done

Democrats on this blog have requested proof that the Speaker of the House was briefed on interrogation techniques and water boarding by the CIA for the last seven years.

Your request will be provided to you this week in definitive detail, and will clearly indicate her participation and full disclosure in these briefings, which will require her resignation from the Senate.

Either Pelosi is lying or she has lost her marbles.
If USA tortured the three barbarians to save AMericans – which side are you on?
If USA tortured via waterboarding then USA has been torturing Navy Seals, Pilots and Special Forces – heck the Colleges have more serious hazing than that.
All of this is a diversion from the fact the present ADM (who can't make a decision and keept it) is making a mess of our economy like no one has, and are taking over the Auto INdustry and giving it to the UAW (Chicago Mafia who get alot of the money). What do you expect from a politician from Chicago however.
Jean B
WI

And I'm sick of this idiot comment about waterboarding being excusable because it worked. If a person sells drugs to your children, but the money goes to charity, does this make it okay? On a smiliar note, if the GOP sells missiles to Iran(read: Contra affair), but uses the money to fund freedom fighters in a foreign country, is it illegal? YES AND WE PROSECUTED PEOPLE FOR IT! Quit screwing around, find your courage, and DO THE RIGHT THING!

The woman is a nut and should have been removed long ago!!!

So they can lie about Iraq, but not waterboarding. Most likely, she was ushered into a secure meeting without being able to take notes and not quite certain what Enhanced techniques involved. She was told that it was legal and she had no reason to believe that she was being misled. I believe they told her just enough to get what they wanted. That's how the game is played. So do I think she knew torture was involved no, but she knew enhanced techniques were.

Alright! lets burn her right after we take down all the Republicans like Cheney, Bush and anyone else in the Republican party that may have been involved.

We should release the photos of our decapitated and dismembered soldiers to show the world just how evil these animals are, come on Pelosi knew and is pulling a Bill

CNN, why do you print rantings like Scott Larson's? And Scott, please read some history before you start throwing around the term "Nazi". This is not a term that should ever have its meaning or weight obscured by people with a political agenda.

We would all do well to pause and honestly consider what might actually be accomplished if our elected representatives (both Democrat and Republican) spent as much time getting down to the nation's business as they spend working to rake one another over the coals. I've concluded that each and every one of 'em is more interested in keeping their "position" than they are in representing their fellow Americans. Shame on them all!

and everyday I see that there is a lot of buyer's remorse for people that voted for the current Democrats in power.
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Wow, you Republicans are more delusional than Bhagdad Bob. Enjoy the pretty colored skies in whatever world you are in because in this country, you have a 21% demographic... and that's shrinking by the minute.

This is the situation that many and myself have an issue with: the Bush administration condoned and ordered the torturing of criminals in Iraq. It is well documented that not only did the Bush administration lie about justifications for invading Iraq, but so did the cherry-picked members of the CIA who said there was a "clear and present danger" and that there was weapons of mass destruction. This is really disgusting, in my opinion, that top republicans are trying to intentionally put focus on what Nancy Pelosi knew and when; this political strategy is conveying nothing, but ignorance, arrogance, and fear. The Bush administration and republicans are desperately attempting to get the sole attention off of themselves and in doing so, is making them look even more pathetic. Focusing on someone like Pelosi instead of the officials that lied about intelligence and condoned and ordered torture in Iraq is where the attention should be. The republicans are really infuriating many people by this political move. A bi-partisan, independent committee needs to investigate the Bush administration and CIA officials. Now that Pelosi has made these claims that she was not aware that waterboarding was being used, she should provide some evidence to back her claim and be done with it.

This is really a gross attempt by the GOP.

of course this thought also comes to mind,,,,if pelosi should go because she was a congressional leader who knew about it and remained silent,,,,doesn't that apply to boehner and mcconnel as well?

Boehner is again playing the Republican song and dance, make a firestorm out of the small stuff, and Americans will ignore the big stuff. This is just another way to divert from the real legal question – did we torture and should those who did be held accountable? Smoke and mirrors to divert the course of the debate from the actual torture crimes, to whether or not one democrat knew about the torture. If Pelosi knew, then hold her accountable, have an independent investigation. Come on, Mr. Republican Boehner, call for that. Can;t do that because most of the really culpable members of congress are the republicans who rewrote the law, ordered the torture and ignored national and international treaties – and now we find out it was mostly to get proof that doesn't exist about WMD and Al Quida connections for an immoral and illegal war. Your smoke and mirrors may work for a while, but it will come full circle and back to the question – Do we torture as Americans, or are we better than that?

Charlie in maine....what are you talking about?? Who has said that knowing about waterboarding is a crime?? Ms. Pelosi is apparently indicating that she didn't take as strong of a stance on water boarding because the CIA was not honest with her that water boarding was taking place or atleast to the degree that it was taking place. The GOP, not believing her, is simply stating that if she is going to make those types of comments, she should prove it....because if that is true, that she was lied to, then the CIA, or members of, should be prosecuted.

Its not the waterboarding or knowledge of waterboarding that is illegal....its the alleged lack of truth that is illegal.

You talk of the GOP lying.....are you saying that the DEMS dont!!?? I hope your not that naive!!

CNN, this is a story for FOX, it is very unbecoming of CNN to keep this nonsense going.

Where is your parties new budget that you promised Rep. Boner? Seems to me you and your party are all Preperation and no H.....

Nancy lied but the media is covering for her because she's a democrat!

“Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime,” Boehner said.

He should know; he is a George W. Bush Republican, after all.

WMDs. 'Nuff said.

I agree with Larson. Get EVERYONE responsible. You want Pelosi, fine, but also prosecute those that REALLY committed the crimes. Thanks to FOX and CNN(Fox-lite-wannabe) for constantly giving the ridiculous a BIG soapbox from which to sound important...if only we still had just 3 channels that had to put out a 30 minute news segment that they actually really investigated before reporting. Oh well, journalism is dead...

She's lied. i knew when they made her speaker of the house it was a huge mistake. Then her stand against Hillary even made me more dislike her. She is like the Kennedys a cancer that needs to be discarded from the Democrat party. Why you people keep voting them in Mass. for. Do they own you. If they do that is a shame. They are nothing but crooks. Gangsters would be a better word. People's lives mean nothing to a Kennedy and Pelosi is their woman. Get rid of Both and never let a Kennedy conection enter politics again.

as a democrat who has run for office,organized and worked for other dems let me say this with a degree of sadness,,,Pelosi has to go.I am not saying sheshould be punished instead of Bush,Cheney<etc but along side of them.Everyone who stood by and let the torture continue is as guilty as those who did it.

Pelosi has been a bald faced liar for years and she has finally been caught in her own web. She should do the honorable thing and start impeachment proceedings against herself.

These comments are usually more entertaining than the article itself!

It is definitely clear that there are many American voters that were tricked by the Far-Left propaganda machine... and everyday I see that there is a lot of buyer's remorse for people that voted for the current Democrats in power. And the Far-Left people that frequent this site (and MSNBC and the daily attack sites) are going crazy somehow trying to defend this madness. And they usually get mean and use the politics of ridicule to try to change culture.

Like it or not, America is still a center-right nation. And people are starting to see that there is no real "change" being delivered... just more of the same ol' dirty politics.

Why doesn't CNN post every article about the republicans trying to blame everything but the Iraqi War on Pelosi. And pretty soon they are going to try to put that off on her.

If I remember correctly, and of course my memory goes further back then four months.....bush was the president since 2001....cheney was the vice president, rice was the SOS, and we had a republican department of justice with republican lawyers.

Now how in the devil could little ole Nancy Pelosi a member of the intel committee AND NOT IN CHARGE REMEMBER, be responsible for the waterboarding and other tortures the CIA...GOT THAT CIA, AND THE REPUBLICANS SANCTIONED, APPROVED and carried out.

But then who ever heard of the TRUTH, certainly not the CIA who have lied over and over and over again about the waterboarding, and every other thing they have done for the republicans. And of course the paragon of truth...Newt Gingrich. Who was known to sneak around and lie about his affairs with women while his wife was dying of cancer. And how about him taking all the money from the schools he ran and put it in his own pocket. AND had to resign because of it.

And by the way which republican do YOU believe unless you are one of those republican lemmings that would jump over the cliff following buttholes like mcconnell and boeher and cantor and RUSH THE MOUTH.

George, If you want to prosecute people for crimes, look no farther than the current president. There are innocent people in Pakistan that have being killed by American bombs on a steady basis since Jan 21st and under your definiton that makes Obama criminally responsible.

Pelochio, what a joke! Come on, Dems, get with the program!

Nancy Pelosi is only stating what she and much of the country believe. The CIA mislead us. The people responsible for approving water boarding should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Put them on trial in The Hague.

To Robin @ 11:59pm. Goerge Bush told several lies while in office:
He said that Iraq had WMD's which were never found–unless you found them–thats a lie! his facilities and abality to produce chem weapons had been destroyed in the past
He stood on a U.S. carrier and declared "mission accomplished",–that's a lie!– we are still in Iraq with the mission still unaccomplished several years later
He said Iraq posed an immenet threat to attack the U.S.,–that's a lie!–they were no more a threat to attack us than Switzerland was
He had Colin Powell say at the U.N., with phony pie charts, graphs, and sattelite photos, that Saddam had trucks or mobile units that had weapons ready materials–that's a lie! The "downing street"memos debunked those claims
He claimed that Saddam was in league with Al-Qaeda–thats a lie!–that so called alliance was never true, Al Qaeda was never in Iraq until U.S. boots were entrenched in Iraq...remember all those foreign fighters coming into Iraq to join the U.S. resistance movement, with then unknown Muctadar AL Sadar
He said "Brownie's doing a heck of a job"–that's a lie!, when in fact Michael Brown(frmr FEMA head) and the U.S. govt was a disgrace in its ineptness to take care of New Orleans as it flooded and people died.
Thats just a few, but trust me the list goes on...

Nice try Johnnie.

This guy thinks all Americans are stupid. Pelosi was not allowed to take notes or comment publicly on classified breifings you idiot. What "evidence" beyond her statements now would she be expected to possess.

This is the lamest trap I've seen the GOP try to set in a while. No wonder they couldn't catch bin Laden in 8 years.

So what is wrong with waterboarding if it saves American lives. War is WAR. When did it become like a kid's game to be played by certain rules? The real issue, to me, is if your loved ones lives could be saved by waterboarding someone who was being held for PROBABLE CAUSE, would the waterboarding still seem wrong to you?

Does CIA use "If they don't ask, don't tell" as a means to keep Congress uninformed. For years I have read political journals: Foreign Affairs, Policial Science Quarterly, Presidential Studies, books on political topics and somewhere I read a person from the intelligence community say that they answer only what is asked. In other words they don't volunteer information. Briefing Congress then becomes a game of deceit, and the Bush Administration added it own touch to this game. The question is WHO IN THE WHITE HOUSE GAVE APPROVAL FOR TORTURE not what Nancy Pelosi knew and remembers or said. The latter is a side-show of no importance to the real issue of torture.

News Flash: Democrats lie too!

Are we really surprised?

May be Pelosi should step down and enjoy her winery and her church as she is not fit for speakership and will be better to run for state office and solve the issues facing California and please do not lie in future.

It ain't about Pelosi!!!
Bush, Cheney, and their crime syndicate started this and lied about it to us and the world. These Republicans in Congress will have us lynching any Democrat available just to get the heat off themselves. Don't fall for these tricks.

We are headed to 10% unemployment. We have two wars going on and we want to investigate Pelosi and Cheney?

Who gives a crap! This has nothing to do with anything that affects my life. I want my daughter to have access to health care even though she has HPV. Will she be able to get insurance to cover a pre-existing condition?

The congress needs to get serious or get out of the way. They are more interested in their little games than the future of our country.

Why does CNN cover the GOP? They lost the election. They are losers.
LOSERS. And they broke the law, they were a criminal regime. Its time to start putting these people in jail. Start with Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Lying to Congress is a crime, except if you're a Rebublican.

Charlie in Maine: Thank you for the reminder about Ollie North and the situational morality and ethics the Republicans so readily use.

Oliver North took an oath as a Marine to uphold and protect the Constitution, which he broke by engaging in illegal acts and then lying to Congress about it. Because his doing so served the Republicans' purpose, he was called a "patriot."

Total hypocrisy!

As a conservative, I say that if Bush and Cheney authorized torture then Nancy Pelosi should resign. It makes perfect sense.

"I was briefed about the briefing but I wasn't at the briefing." Shall we add this to "I was for it before I was against it;" and "I smoked marijuana, but I didn't inhale," and the classic of all time, "it depends on what your definition of 'is' is" in the pantheon of democratic efforts to straddle two inconsistent positions to avoid actually telling the truth?

Pelosi is a LIAR and an embarrassment to the Democrat Party. She needs to be SHOWN THE DOOR.

Larry we are not allowed to call it Fighting terrorism anymore. (SMILE), but I do agree with everything you said on your post!!!!

I agree with Minority Leader Boehner!!! We should investigate and charge all democrats that had knowledge of what the republicans did and did not stop them. But lets keep our priorities straight. First we need to prosecute the leadership. We need King George to stand in a trail for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Personally, I think we should call on the world court to try him and his immediate staff (like Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, and co.). Once the world decides what to do with these blood thirsty Nazis, then we need to put the Republican and Democrat Nazis on Trail that we in the House and Senate when the Patriot Act passed, and put them on trial for Treason!! Finally, any Republican or Democrat that was compliant with these acts of Treason, but were voted in after the fact need to be tried. If found guilty of being compliant to the treason (they did not speak out like Barbara Boxer did) they should be stripped of their citizenship and shipped to the middle east. This is America, and we can never let a rouge group hijack our freedom, or morals again. We need to take assertive action to say that we are better than this, and that no one is above our law, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN POSITIONS OF POWER. It will be a good day for the world when all these criminials are brought to justice.

John Bohner, were you part of the operation on 9/11 ?
Why aren't You in jail, much less in Congress ? Because You Sir, will and could never be Speaker !

I can not see how keeping Pelosi as speaker of the house would help the Democratic platform.

She is too much of a political liability and should be replaced.

You know it Andi, If she knew about this that long ago, she should have used the power of her position to end it then. Instead shew waited and then opened her mouth for political gain only. In my view, this makes her twice as guilty as the W.

to andi and the rest of us that have some common sense,,,,,,its the same old story,,,,republicans trying to turn the story around,,,,and take focus on what obama is trying to do,,,,,get us out of the mess Junior and the evil empire lest us in,,, please GO AWAY you ignorant people,,,or just stay quiet,,,

Now look whos talking about lying. Boehner is a joke, I mean this guy is the same one that supported the same administration that gave the go ahead with these interrogations. You talk about a buch of hypocrites. Mr. Boehner must think that the American people are a bunch of idiots. This is deception on the highest level. Theres no way that i support Pelosi in anyway if she was part of this, because i think she should be voted out of office if it is true; but to hear this coming from Boehner, this is comedy. Vote Boehner and Pelosi out. This is what America needs.

Pelosi needs to step down from her position, as 3rd in line to the Presidency. She's a complete disgrace to the American people.

Robin: Until you – and every other Republican – can engage in civil debate (i.e., not resort to name-calling by referring to Nancy Pelosi as "Polaski"), the world will not take you seriously.

Bush did lie about Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction, which is why his Administration cherry-picked the intelligence briefings they were receiving, in order to support the conclusions they wanted. It is also why he and Cheney didn't agree to testify under oath about what they knew when.

The Republicans need to get their own house in order.

This is just beautiful.. The GOP is trying to go after Pelosi.. a peace advocate for lying about what she new about waterboarding.. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black..lol Bush and Cheney take us to an unjust war with Iraq.. (invisible WMD's, remember) thousands of our soldiers killed.. OVER 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed.. and the GOP Bush-Cheney administration condoning waterboarding and RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING IT.. And the GOP is attacking Pelosi??? This is rich stuff.. Kind of reminds me of the GOP going after Kerry for his heroics in Vietnam when Bush and Cheney were draft dodging. Are we going MAD here?

“Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime,” Boehner said Sunday

Wow someone should let Fox news know that because maybe Ollie North should be in prison instaed of on their show.

So let me see if I get this staright the GOP claims that Waterboarding is not a crime but somehow knowing about it is. Since the whole Iraq war was built on lies and no one has been "investigated for that" suddenly we are supposed to believe that the GOP wants us to see lying to congress as a crime but when Ollie North did it it was patriotic.

Good thing for the GOP leadesrship that it is not a crime to lie to the American people. It is not a crime however. I just pray that lying does not work for them as a campaign tatctic again (hey, I can dream can't I?)

It would appear that if Nancy Pelosi feels as strongly as she does on the issue, she should have asked very probing questions on the nature of the use of waterboarding. The session would have allowed for interaction between the CIA and the other participants. For her to say she was misled is actually pointing to her incompetence as she was to be a central figure in getting to the bottom of the method utilized to gain intelligence information, by not gaining clarification on what was actually occuring is a deriliction of her duty. The Democrats are now in power and they should stop slinging mud at the Republicans and get on with governing the country, there are enough problems that need to be addressed without having to worry about who said what and when.

Mr. Bonehead,

You are right! She should be investigated for water boarding!

Sign

LOL

What else is new with Speaker Pelosi? To be a Democrat one does not have to pay their taxes if they want a Cabinet post, they have to borrow recklessly and then overspend, and then stretch the truth (there is another word but I am concerned that the new big brother atmosphere in Washington might track me down and ship me off the soon-to-be vacant Guantanamo).

Get over it and get on with real issues. This is what we are sick of...one side against the other. We are all guilty because we elected(some of us) Bush and ignored what he was doing. It's over. Lets stop blaming each other and get to work on real problems.. Washington we are sick of your fighting. Work!!!

wow ol bonner has been busy that last few days . he is comming off as a junk yard dog .. but he is going after people that are trying to gety our country back on its feet ..were was he when the Bush adm. wanderd down that road of threats and lies and great spending . ?

now GM is is trouble and looks like to Obama adm. is going to be blamed for cutting back .. it isn't the Obama adm. its the last eight years of crappy government..
who does he think ran ENRON into the ground ( a big shot republican

millions of people lost everything they invested in a crook and many people lost their jobs ..he wasn't finger pointing then

and ol Bonner spends more time on talk shows jabbing the democrates than just pitching in and helping the country correct the mess his group got us into.

this man is a freak show with no agenda other than flapping his lips

You idiots don't get it. The dems are trying to prosecute the attorneys and certain of the Bush Administration people for the torture and waterboarding, so these people and the people defending them are saying if you are going to prosecute them, then you have to prosecute everyone involved, they need to know everyone that was informed. Hence, Nancy Pelosi trying to claim that she had no idea this was going on. How can someone who clearly knew what was going on, try to prosecute the people that were responsible for crafting the process?

ACORN nuts who will never be objective

There is something seriously wrong with the "main stream" of the Democratic party when they think :
*The CIA lies
*The U.S. Constitution is wrong
*The Pope is wrong–Prayer is wrong
*Mother Nature is wrong
*Fighting terrorism is wrong
*Individual freedom is wrong–the government knows best
*Private business and capitalism is wrong
*The United States needs to apologize for being wrong

What is right ? Marrying the same sex and abortion.

The Republicans need to be the party of "No"

DEM in HI has the best point! The Republicans want to pin Pelosi on knowing about the waterboarding as in 'how COULD she keep silent about such horrendous torture', and it's the same Republicans who want to try to convince us that 'waterboarding is NOT torture but is rather an ordinary technique used to interrogate prisoners'. Hypocrisy.

So what we are saying is that since Bush/Cheney lied, it's OK for Pelosi to lie. I think our collective moral compass has been checked at the door.

I think we have to look at the bigger picture here- Where is the administration on this? Quiet, with no words of support for Pelosi. I seriously doubt Leon Pinetta came out with such a strong statement supporting the CIA without the tacid approval of the President. So what we have here is the winds of change. The Administration is obviously doing little to support Pelosi, in fact they are doing quite the opposite, not only allowing the winds to blow, but stealthily adding to it. In otherwords, Obama promised changed and here is the opportunity within his own party to effect it.

I used to think Harry Ried was the problem but I've come to see in time that he's not all that bad. Pelosi on the other hand is the devining rod of partisianship. President Obama is nothing if not smart, he sees the opportunity to put a new face on congressional leadership, perhaps one with less ego and more deference to the President. The only question is how to prevent the Republicans from gaining too much advantage from this. They are a shrill scattered bunch right now, using them to help push Pelosi out without gaining too much acolades for themselves in the process is a tapdance. Hense Penetta's statement, support the CIA which is good for the troops, weaken Pelosi, and the President stays mum. That is equally the big story here.

I expect more silence from the Administration and surprising quiet from fellow democrats. Pelosi will be left twisting in the wind until the winds of change are obvious to even her.

I can't believe what these republicans are trying to do. They are saying " She knew what we were doing and she could have stopped us. It is all her fault". Unbelievable!

Quick review: she is listed on the memo having attended a briefing where one of the topics listed for review was water boarding. If she didnt pay attention and catch that part of the briefing then she is incompetent and should be removed. If she did pay attention then she knew about, couldnt find a way to use the info so sat on it and therefore just as guilty and should be removed.

End result no matter which scenerio: Pelosi should be removed, she has been nothing more than an obstructionist, left wing radical isolating fellow Democrats and has presented obstacles to Obama and his efforts bridge partsian bridges. And after her Reid should go.

Dem's, your in for a short tenure if you dont get some better leadership, review all of your own advice to the Republicans, it applies to you to. Both parties lack leaders in tune to the common citizen.

signed, and Independent and ex-Demorcrat

First of all, I am a Democrat, and i voted for President Obama.
Nancy Pelosi needs to resign. She is an obstacle to change; an obstacle to bi partisan cooperation; and one of the worst pork barrel spending violators in office. When the person 3rd in line to the Presidency comes out and calls our intelligence community liars, it is time to go. Her behavior over the past two weeks is atrocious. She is a liability to President Obama and will be an obstacle to him achieving his legislative goals.

you people are idiots . libs get to believe what they want let me get this straight if a republician goes get permission from congress and there full support for a war. the dems fully support it until not that we are losing but they see a way to get elected then turn on the country just to get elected. u people make me sick and feel sorry for the people in the miltiary who are defending you. i have a new policy we should get stared that the dems will support its a dem post abortion meaning we can abort u up till you 21 birthday

That's the reason why John Boehner is the Minority Leader. he will never be the MAJORITY leader.

Cmon people, we know they all lie. At least the democrats' lies seem to be in an effort to help people, as opposed to the republicans blatantly lying using religion and patriotism to line their pockets.

Nancy Pelosi just proves the old adage – "when you take a Balti-moron out of Baltimore, what you got left is a plain old MORON!" I wouldn't believe Pelosi under oath.

If John Bohner had to provide proof every time he made a statement, he would have been out of office a long time ago.

John Bohner is the poster child of untrue rash statements and he knows it so, why would any American listen to him?

To those on the Left, people of America understand you are falsely accusing the Bush administration of torture because it is your sole mission to tear down America to fit your own ideals. Waterboarding is not torture. Nancy Pelosi knew it was not torture when she was told about it in 2002. The Left and Democrats said it was torture because it was another way to weaken Bush and gain politically. Bush never lied to the country in order to defend this nation against the terror of Saddam and Obama. If the Left and the Democrats are intellectually honest they would see Bush as the leader who extracted the torturer Saddam. Nancy Pelosi is a liar and someone who sacrifices her nations safety for her own political gain.

I agree with all of the people who (correctly) are calling this for what it is: a Red Herring logical fallacy, meant to distract people from the real issue, namely that the "torture" OOPS, I mean "enhanced interrogation techniques" were ordered by Bush & Cheney (especially the latter)... we need to investigate all of these miscreants so that we can finally get to the bottom of this and have real justice. If Speaker Pelosi is indeed lying, then let her suffer the consequences of her actions, but you need to remember that she was NOT the one who led our country into war with Iraq.

Is Boehner drinking again or what?

Most of you are trying to introduce non-related elements into this debate - "But he said/she said...!" Nearly all of you would fail rhetoric and logic 101.

All Nancy is being asked to due in this instance is to provide PROOF of her claim.

Forget who said what or who did what elsewhere - this is about Nancy opening her mouth before she had something to back it up.

Boehner is right - put up, or shut up.

I'm an Obama Democrat, and Boehner is right on this one. This is exactly why Obama didn't want this can of worms opened.

Boehner is hallucinating again. He thinks he can give orders and everyone will jump.

As they say in Brooklyn, "Whadda maroon."

Piglosi is lying through her teeth,she is an incompaent person. She wants to bring this country to it's knees, she is a communist and wants nothing but power...as much as she can get. She is lying to this nation and has no proof of her allegations, no proof what so ever! I am glad the CIA does what it does, they keep this country safe. Piglosi does the opposite. She should be investigated like Gingrich suggests happen. Either she puts up or shuts up! She is the typical liberal sqealing like a greased pig with nothing to say, typical lying liberal politician. I hope this is the begining of her long overdue end! Get rid of this old fossil wench! She is the typical lib thatt hated Bush and wants to bring up the past...never responsible for her actionjs and blames everyone else for her stupidity!

Pelosi is lying and she should be ashamed of herself! She is trying to keep her Speaker of the House position. I never liked her for her too liberal agendas even though I am a Democrat myself. The Obama adminstration should not have made a media circus with all this torture information of the Bush adminstration. Certain things do not need to be publicized to the whole world. Fix it behind the scenes. Anyways, if they are a terrorist, I could care less what we do to them to get information out of them.

What kind of a alternate reality is this?

So Nancy Pelosi is supposed to have lied?

What did she supposed lie about? The Repiglican illegal program to torture people?

What about the Repiglican lies? About starting a war and killing thousands upon thousands of people. About committing all kinds of constitutional violations. About torturing prisoners to get them to fake up a link between Iraq and Al Quida.

I'll agree with this: There SHOULD be investigations and prosecutions. If Nancy Pelosi gets caught up in the net, then fine. Everyone who committed crimes during the Bush administraiton - not just those who might have heard about them - should spend a lot of time in prison. Got that Boy-no?

Gee, if Pelosi goes, what will Boehner whine about next?

SO…. The Bush regime did the actual torturing of people, and Nancy Pelosi is getting the one getting heat because she lied about when and what she knew about it?
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No, she is getting the heat becasue she knew about it and approved it and did nothing to stop it. Then on her high horse decided that everyone that knew or allowed it should be prosecuted.. So, they are all in it together. it's that easy. Has everyone on here forgotten that our constitution is written in such a way that no one person has all the power? The president can not act without the congress. Bush may have been Republican but the majority of Congress was led by Democrats for the entire 8 years. The same in reverse for Bill Clinton. The Obama administration is the first in years that holds the majority in one party and they are all so busy finger pointing that they can't lead us out of anything and move forward. Personally I would rather them look at the problems of the present and the future and show how they can do better than waste time, energy and money on the past and things that can't be changed.

UPDATE:

*All the major WORLD leaders ALL thought there were WMD.
I'm no Bush fan...I didn't vote for him the 2nd time but he wasn't
the only one thinking that.
( I wish we'd stayed out, for sure)

*Pelosi is the same problem that happens on the right....EXTREME right wingers ruining any good ideas.

The 08 Election wasn't to support Democratic principles.
It was a referendum for change.

MODERATES are why Obama won.
Most people are right in the middle and not an extremist like Pelosi, Rush, Cheney, Sharpton.

Why could Nancy Pelosi just have told the truth from the very begining It would have saved alot of crap. Back than she had no reponsibility for what happened like water boarding. I guest honestly is just not her thing. She is a disgrace to the congress. I wish the jerks that defend her would wake up and smell the crap she puts out.

Obama opened up a can of worms when he declassified and released the CIA documents. His liberal masters at the ACLU demanded it. They had no idea that the can of worms Obama opened would be poured all over one of their own, Nancy Pelosi.

The funny thing is, the ACLU didnt learn from that mistake. They want more released. But Obama did learn. It may be a while before he listens to those liberals at the ACLU again. They have made a fool of him enough already.

As usual, the liberals/Democrats miss the entire point.

Pelosi accuses someone of lying and then it's up to them to prove her wrong. Yeah, that makes sense. Let's just accuse anyone of anything and let them sort it out for themselves and not expect the accuser to make some sort of case to back up the accusation.

And then let's dig up Bush and his people again. They're gone, people. Get over it. Whether Bush did this or that doesn't change whether Pelosi is a liar or not. Stop trying to justify a wrong by citing other wrongs. It's not some twisted game where one person's wrongs give license to the other side to do their own.

Hey DEMS: address the issue at hand. Pelosi can't be your hero. She's the same embarrassment most politicians are. They all lie. The media is just as bad. It's just us common folk that need to figure out what is the truth. Dems, GOP, Ind. all BS. Term limits will help straighten this mess out. Pelosi, like all the career politicians think they are above the truth.

We need to start firing all career politicians from both parties.

I waterboaraded an ant in my sink strainer the other day, and it came scurrying out as though nothing happened to it. I was trying to drown it, so I think that waterboarding cannot be considered torture if that little ant survived it. What else can we use to get information from terrorists, when their countries smash fingers with hammers and cut off heads? C'mon – this is just a diversion for the Obama admin who don't want the nation to realize that they're committing torture to many by taxing the living daylights out of us and the future generations. What a crock! Throw Nancy under the bus – she's just another "California girl" (if you know what I mean).

This Republican thanks the Democrats for Madame Pelosi. Please keep her in her position as Speaker. At least until a different Majority is in place, a process which she is hastening, and then a change will be made

Sorry, but watching John Boener all I could think of was Pres. Obama's hilarious comments about him at that dinner last week. Boehner would get his points across more if he wasn't so bitter, sarcastic and sour faced. Right now he is just a perfect representative for the Republcans in Congress.

Too funny!

Provide proof or apologize? Pelosi has asked the CIA to release a full transcript. Follow up on that one, Boehner.

Boehner has a face of hypocrisy & corruption.

Water board her and find out if she is lying. She is a sick pathetic weak individual that would rather bow down to the terrorist and leaders of other countries than to stand up and be forceful and defend our country. All the liberals out there think that by becoming friends with the terrorist it opens up more doors for you to have an orgy with them. Keep it up they are going to stick something up your rectum that you don't want there, called a nuclear bomb. They already have highjacked 4 airplanes, took down two of the tallest buildings in the world, attacked our military headquarters and killed thousand of Americans, and you think dunking their head in a little water is torture, grow the heck up.

Stop trying to punish the people that fight and die for your freedoms and feeling sorry for the ones that try to take it way. Grow up and be an American for a change. If you have any feelings other than that, you need a blunt reality check.

throw all under the bus present past republician and democratic adminstration you want the truth don't elect any poltician.. bush chenney rice rumfield rove.. pelosi biden reid bohner all of them all lies! this is insane! let it go ... otherwise there will be wwIII

I have lived through the terms of nine Presidents, and have never seen the hate and division that our current President inspires in his followers. Whenever a Democrat is caught up in their lies, Obama's followers start spewing bigoted, racist, hate-filled speech against anyone with a different point of view. And by the way, now that Obama is President, it is good to see that he is backing away from his campaign promises, and following the Bush policies concerning our security,i.e. re-opening military tribunals, a surge in Afghanistan, much like the surge in Iraq that he was against but turned the war completely around, and leaving homeland security basically the same as Bush design it. As for Pelosi, it seems she knew about waterboarding, and did the right thing by approving it to keep our country safe at the time, but then used it as a political tool to fuse hatred towards Bush in order to gain political control of Congress, while lieying about what she knew and when she knew of the issue.

Nancy Pelosi has lied to both the Democratic and Republican Party. Why can’t you see that? I cannot believe how some people think and act to support these crooks. All they can keep saying is George Bush this and George Bush that. If you want to keep living your life blaming Mr. Bush and allowing Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party to ruin or Nation, then I hope you can sleep well at night in what will soon be the former United States of America. We all should be concerned about the way our current leadership is running our Nation!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is vey important. The GOP has nothing to offer so go on personal attacks. Pity

Provide proof Pelosi lied? I dont believe it is up to the Republicans to prove she lied. The Obama Administration, Panetta, is making the claim Pelosi lied. So we have 2 Democrats contradicting each other. Either Pelosi should prove the CIA is lying or the Obama Administration, Panetta should prove Pelosi is lying. But since Pelosi made the allegation, it should be on her to prove it.

good call. If the CIA lied, Pelosi needs to provide the evidence, so they can be prosecuted.

Who the hell is John Boehner ? { Must be a Republican}

nonesense....she is just speaker...not president nor vice president...who authorised...they are the one to answer

Pelosi and Barney Franks need to resign, they are a sad commentary on America's fall! Join the 912 project!

Boy, can those Republicans deflect issues from their own faults. They have done this for years and years. Sad that so many of the public fall for their tactics. Whatever may be the case with Ms. Pelosi, she is not responsible for the waterboard methods of operation. The real problem with Democrats is that they are open to discussions that produce different opinions, thus their road isn't as smooth as the Republican road has been in recent years. These attacks by the Boehners, Roves, and Cheneys of the world is to deflect from their own mismanagement of what is important to America's success. I hope the public doesn't let them dominate the airwaves with their continuing snipes. Let's get on with the business of cleaning up America's past mistakes and getting us back on economic pathway of success for Americans.

The Republican Party is doing absolutely nothing towards the betterment of our nation. Absolutely nothing.

I'm so pleased to see that the Republican Party is responding, years afterward, to the great harm done to our nation by the Bush administration, by going after someone who might or might not have heard about it a little.

The Republican party has never had a better advertisement than Nancy Pelosi. She has singlehandedly destroyed any possibility that the Democrats had of governing effectively, and she has now turned what was already a bizarre "debate" about torture into a complete circus. I am utterly astonished at her complete idiocy. How the people of San Francisco aren't in the streets absolutely screaming for this moron to step down immediately is totally beyond me.

hi just my 2 cents here , one can anyone tell me is there proof Bush lied?? Sadam used chemical weapons at least 2 times, once on the kurds and in the iran iraq war, and possably on us troops in the gulf war. So he was given intellagence that indecated he was STILL making them we had just been attacked unprovoked. Now what would you have had Bush do, your country is attacked 3,000 dead, a hosital country, iraq has been playing games with the UN for 10 years about chemical weapons. If he had done nothing and we where attacked or one of our allies what would all you be saying. Polaski ran on she would stop the tourtuing the poor people who would just as soon see us dead as to look at us. And she says she didnt know WHAT. Now if you can tell me proof positive that Bush lied then i will say ok to Polaski.

Pelosi has taken lessons – - – 'didn't hear' anything about enhanced interrogation during briefings – - – just like a member of Jeremiah Wright's church in his sermons, didn't hear the US -bashing he did.
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As for all the Bush-bashers and blather-skite lefties – - my gosh – - your strong hateful language almost negates your comments.

Pelosi is Speaker of the House and 3rd and line to succeed the presidency thereby making her comments serious and of need to be etiher substantitated or refuted, PERIOD!

Attn: If you really think Pelosi is honest or doing a good job, then you must be from SF or just a liberal nut job. She is dishonest and dumb. If you hate Republicans so much that you cannot see this, then you shouldn't be voting. Replace her with an honest Democrat.

George W. Bush NEVER lied to congress or the american people! If he had as you folks claim he would have been impeached by the Pelosi Reid junta in 2006.

I can hardly recall stuff from a year ago, let alone 5+ years ago! Though I'm a Dem, I'm not a big Pelosi fan, but it should be proven that she did something wrong before hauling her off for crucifixion. Instruct the CIA to produce the breifing it supplied to Pelosi so this Republicant obfuscation will end. PLEASE!!! Surely there are more important issues facing our nation than this manufactured Republicant b.s.

He looks constipated in that picture. Doctor says give him a waterboarding 1×3.

Defend the Democrats-Defend the Democrats–Defend the Democrats–Why ?
Because they break our laws, don't pay taxes, and lie.–Aren't you tired of it ?

The Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, is next in line of sucession after the Vice-President. Of course, she was briefed about the interrogations. She uses any situation she can to attack the Republicans and the previous administration officials. When she became Speaker, she made it clear to the Democratic House members that they were to follow her lead and not vote for any of President Bush's initiatives. Almost all followed her lead because of the political power she holds.
A side note: The restaurant and hotel that she and her husband own do not allow unions to form among it workers.

This is too funny. Let's censure Pelosi about whether she was told about waterboarding, yet let's block any discussion whether waterboarding is torture. Talk about hypocrites!!! Let's talk about a nation misled and lied to about going to war. A war that has cost over 4,200 lives. Bohner is such a whiner. Then the GOP wonders why they cannot connect with moderates. The GOP is the party of NO!!! No change, no accountability or responsibility, and and no intelligence.

Seems democrats here once again never discuss very much of the facts re Pelosi but show the same mentality as always of
1. well he is worse
2. but he lied too
3. Bush is bad, Cheney is worse still
4. Nancy's not as bad as........
Can you democrats ever discuss that your party is not perfect? You are no better than republicans standing up for their side. If she knew and did nothing, then why is she allowed to rail on now 6 years later as if she has just realized it was a bad thing to do? Where was her promise to end the war when if the country elected more Dems and they took control of the House? What has she done while holding the job and during all those two years of hearings other than allow hearings to be held on Bush with no actions or anything coming out of them ?
It is time that the revenge for the past 8 years cools a little and saner heads prevail. It seems you want to hold everyone else accountable for their words for the past 8 years , but never anyone from your own party. Why is that? What did they do when they found out about the waterboarding – seems like they did nothing and allowed its continuance in their silence. Pelosi's excuse was she decided to stop the waterboarding by saying she needed to work on getting more democrats elected and a democratic President-- isn't that her job anyway?
You know it really feels good belonging to neither party and you don't get sucked in defending the indefensible from either side.

Does any one remember Bill Clinton? He was one of the biggest liars of them all. Enough of the Bush bashing. Get off the band wagon.

Peliso is as guilty as the rest of them she knew what was going also don't let her get away with it.

So if we are going to prosecute all war crimes, does that mean Obama is to be prosecuted for all those innocent women and children that were killed during his raids on Pakistan the first week he was in office? Good for one ....good for all.

Quite frankly, this is outrageous.

Where were anything of these GOP cronies when Iraq's WMD's were naught to be found? Blatant lies by the top officials of the Bush Administration have led to a couple thousand American deaths, and a 10+ trillion dollar war.

The day that Pelosi should be investigated, is the day that Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes (along with Kissinger).

Nancy Pelosi stated on one of the Sunday morning news shows several months ago that she did know natural gas is a fossil fuel. Nancy Pelosi does not engage even her fellow Democrats, she is not capable of building a consensus for any important piece of legislation, which ahs to date always followed party lines, and now, even the White House is silent when she needs support their the most. She has consistently contradicted herself over this issue and other issues of less importance. Now she has insulted the apolitical CIA, only to realize within 24 hours what she had done, then she tried to blame the Bush administration instead of the CIA, only to realize this is one of the few things Bush's White House can rightfully claim they had nothing to do with. Pelosi has boxed herself in. This may be the final days for the first female Speaker.

SO.... The Bush regime did the actual torturing of people, and Nancy Pelosi is getting the one getting heat because she lied about when and what she knew about it? Classic Rovian tactics- distract the tunnel- vision media from the real issue by creating a non- issue the media can latch onto.

I guess its quite clear that democrats who have posted here miss the point of this article, and the story in general.

1) "Boehner should prove Pelosi is lying." Well, he isn't saying she's lying. He's saying that she should prove that her accusation that the CIA was lying to her is true.

2) "Boehner says Pelosi should be punished, but not republicans". Please show me where, in this article, Boehner says Pelosi should be punished. He says she should prove her accusations are true, or apologize for making them.

The truth is, you are blinded by your own partisan agenda to recognize that if something is wrong (waterboarding), its hypocracy for some who were involved in the decision making to later call out others involved in the decision making when it is politically feasible. But I guess its more important to some of you to root for the "blue team" than to pursue anything resembling truth or justice. That statement applies to plenty on the other side of the aisle as well, so you can save your finger pointing, hand wringing, and yammering "but bush said..."

I feel Pelosi should step down. I enjoy your program . Republicans have Rush and the Democrats have Stephanie Miller, please do not have her on your program again.

It's time to appoint an independent prosecutor, or, short of that, a commission, so that the American people can find out once and for all if our leaders broke the law. If Pelosi was complicit, then fine, she should be brought up on the appropriate charges along with Bush, Cheney, Woo, Rumsfeld and whoever else was involved.

not to mention, Cheney orchastrated the torture, why isn't he being scrutinized?

As if we needed more proof that lying, cheating, dishonest politicians know no party boundaries. If the speaker of the house has lied to the American people about something as important as this, she needs to resign.

Give Pelosi a break, this is like trying to remember something 5 yrs ago, again from memory, compared to people who wrote and took notes, did the CIA make a note of what was written and all truth perhaps, but she didn't take notes so she can't be held on speculation, well she can but shouldn't

Come on!.... you gotta be kidding me! now what ?Nancy Pelosi is to blame for the invasion on Iraq and the use of "enhanced Torture techniques" I remember when the "intelligence" misled the Nation with the existence of arms of mass destruction which was the greatest excuse of all to Bush get away with his Oil agenda without the consensus of the international community... how are you gonna vindicate with all of our fallen heroes who died for a lie? this guy is not a Beehner is a complete Dick-Lamebaugh, I'm sick and tired of these Growing Odd Party the party of NO Ideas, zip ,zero, nada

now the simple fact is; mr bush, and mr. cheney, a year ago, invited ms pelosi over to the White House for some crackers/tea. at that time, ms pelosi and mr reid were going to force the administration to come clean about irag, etc., but the administration politely advised ms pelosi that they had quite a telling tale to tell about her families ruthless tenure in Baltimore..that same telling folder of misuse is being waved by none other than jane harmon from California,..and that end run will be ms pelosis' demise..sometimes playing ball, is not much fun..

I actually do not agree with Boehner. I think that Pelosi should resign, and she should take Obama, Geithner, Summers, Bernanke, Emmanuel and Frank with her. All these liberals are so hypocritical. They claim to be tolerant and open-minded. But really, liberals are the most judgimental folks there are, and do you think any open-minded person would lie to congress about waterboarding? Of course not. Oh, and when Obama resigns, after he is impeached for treason, he should take his teleprompter with him. The whole teleprompter is the most frustrating to me. It means the man is a sham. A hoax. Everything he says is staged and scripted. He is the popstar president, who says absolutely nothing on his own. What a waste.

The Republi-cants are at it again – accuse, blame, and crucify – all for the purpose of shining the spotlight anywhere but where it truly belongs. The supreme arrogance of Cheney, Bush, Rummy, Gingritch, Boehner et all is so breathtaking it is not to be believed! Yet, here they are – sneaky liars all – throwing stones in glass houses, passing judgment on others, and demanding resignations. They should all just shut the f#*% up and go away. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY – WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?

Clearly, they are flailing at anything they can to try to drag down the Dems. To tell you the truth, it's actually kinda funny watching them lash out at everything..they have zero game plan left, except the one they have been using for years and it just doesn't work anymore. People I think have finally caught on. Someone should tell this poor moron NO ONE CARES. It's the economy, stupid, not Pelosi.

Provide proof or apologize – how about YOU clowns provide proof that she lied?

That is the core principle of our legal system is it not?

Charge her with a crime or move on because these distractions from the real issue, which is the of the crime of committing torture, being offered by the GOP are not working any more!

The Republicans are worried about crimes? Okay, so how about this: Pelosi gets censured for lying as she probably deserves, and Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice and the rest stand trial in The Hague for war crimes. And Rove did commit the crime of revealing the identity of a CIA agent, and the whole attorney-firing thing, and illegal wiretapping, yeah, let's just go punish all the crimes!

This is a nice little hypocritical shoot-themselves-in-the-foot Republican strategy. But Gingrich is a past master of hypocrisy: anyone remember "Gingrich admitted to providing inaccurate statements during the probe." Gingrich is a liar who loves to call everyone else liars. Takes one to know one, I guess.

When did lying to Congress become a crime? That must have been something that was added once Bush left office.....

I can remember the republicans calling me un-American which is definately a lie. I can remember Bush telling everyone there was weapons of mass destruction. I remember Bush saying US doesn't toture. I believe Pelosi on this one because it is true the people that worked for Bush lied constantly. When I get an apology for thoses things then I will ask Pelosi for one but not until. Beohner is an idiot.

I don't get it, really. On the one hand, waterboarding and other torture techniques have been talked about by the media in connection with Guantanamo for the last two or three years as if it is presumed and known by everybody that it was being done. I didn't know anybody was denying these things were happening; even Obama ran on the pledge to close Guantanamo because it is associated with torture used on its prisoners. On the other hand, I can wholeheartedly believe that the CIA under the Bush Administration would lie and mislead everybody. "Apologize" to the intelligence community? That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. No other group, other than the Bush Administration itself, has less reason to be apologized to!

This whole thing is idiotic. The problem comes from calling something that we do to our special forces during training “Torture”. Only wimps would imply or believe that creating an illusion of drowning without physical injury is torture. How can you extract information out of someone unless you scare the living days out of him?
All of this nonsense is just a distraction to keep people from seeing the real problems that we are facing. Such as the chaotic shape of our sinking economy and the loss of our personal wealth and future. That is the real job of the news media in today’s world. So you fools out there while you are wasting your time reading this irrelevant garbage, someone is writing you employment termination notice or filling out your eviction papers. Wake up America!

This is nuts. Anyone remember Major General Antonio Taguba and what happened to him? By the time his report was made public, even me, an ordinary citizen with no access to nothin' knew there was torture going on. What happened to him during the Bush Administration? The current investigation should be about why no one in the Bush Administration did anything about torture and whether there should be indictments in U.S. courts before courts in other countries issue them.

Give it a rest, boner. If lying to Congress is a crime, should we start prosecuting all the Bush officials who did just that? It's funny how, rather than denouncing the crimes of torture that occurred on the GOP's watch, and with their blessing, they're diverting the attention to Pelosi. Americans aren't dumb, GOP...we know who was responsible for this travesty, and who we will continue to hold accountable in elections until you take some responsibility for your actions rather than creating bogus controversies to try and shift the attention elsewhere.

I'm soooo sick of the vicious ways of the Republican Party....I doubt I'll ever vote Republican again. They've become sickening!

John Boehner's (I cannot even let myself honor this fool with mentioning that he is the Minority Leader of Congress) assertion that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should present evidence of lying by CIA officials since lying to Congress is a crime is the height of hypocrisy. If Boehner wants anyone who lied to Congress to be prosecuted, then lets put George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Alberto Gonzalez, Donald Rumsfeld, and many other Administration officials under the same process for not only lying to Congress, but to the American people and to the country as a whole!!! Although I can't personally stand Nancy Pelosi, and would like to see her replaced as Speaker because she is just as reprehensible as Boehner is many ways, to put her under the truth statement microscope while letting the Bush thugs escape their day of justice is absolutely the stupidiest thing to come out of a politicians mouth since George Bush said "So help me God! at his inauguration in 2001 and 2005.
And Newt Gingrich, Limbaugh, Jindal, Romney, Norquist, and the other Reichsfuhers of the GOP need to shut their lying yaps and go take goosestepping lessons off a pier into the Potomac. These vain, brain dead, egotistical politicians are pus filled boils on the butt of the American people, and we need to lance and drain them from our sight.
Also Boehner needs to realize that the only reason President Obama has had to make several key decisions that flip-flopped from his earlier positions, has been because of the blatant stonewalling and lack of cooperation the GOP has become famous for the past 100 days. The GOP is determined to ruin our country rather than work with the President.

Crazy CIA, How about they provide us with the transcript of what they told Nancy.
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Mike, I believe the offical word from the CIA is that they are waiting on Obama to declassify this informaiton and then they would be happy to priovide all memos. Nancy is through.............she should just bow out gracefully.

You know, that's what Pelosi gets. For a good time she was just chillin, relaxing and letting the Dems do their thang and here she comes being a tough girl and all that. Personally, I think she was just trying to say that it wasn't as consequential or as importance as it was in that time and therefore her making that claim that she was misled or is based on inaccurate information is just based on instances when she was around the class...in other words, she did get the assignment in class where everybody else got it, Pelosi was just trying to show off. I don't think she was trying to say she had no knowledge or information about it but that she wasn't aware of what was going on, therefore she doesn't wanna pay attention to the situation. Just the fact that it wasn't more serious back then doesn't mean Pelosi gotta turn the tables around, as a matter of fact, she is talking like if they were trying to hide something. I don't think it matters what happen, you also gotta remember so many factors, like the vote on Iraq. It wasn't until many years later we were beginning to get more info on what was going on, the only thing that is new here is the fact that Pelosi was not informed or that she didn't know, maybe she doesn't remember or fully comprehend what happened and now, she's learning the hard way.

I'm not saying everybody knew or what was going on, this stuff is confidential and quite frankly guys, it ain't none of our business because it is on paper and on record. Just the fact that Pelosi said the CIA misled her is really another way of saying that's inaccurate, I'm sure she remembers, she just gotta think before she speaks and when she does, she should understand her history as well...

California women...what is it about them? I think she saw Miss Cali so she wanted to be tough, that's my analysis for Pelosi, LOL!!

Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime??? Then why isn't Bush, Cheney and the rest in jail for their lies????????????

i'm sick and tired of hearing things
from uptight-short sighted-narrow minded hypocritics
all i want is the truth
just give me some truth
i've had enough of reading things
by nuerotic-pyschotic-pig headed politicians
all i want is the truth
just give me some truth

The lies emanating from Bush, Cheney and Co. for 8 years can be ignored while you go after Pelosi for lying, right Boehner?

You should study what John Lennon wrote up above and try to understand why you come across as sore loser with nothing of value to say.

I thought this was about torture and who authorized it? How did what Nancy Pelosi knew and when come into this? I am no fan of hers but I think finding the person(s) responsible for this atrocity is a bit more important than setting her down a peg.

Pelosi's choice of words was poor and she should acknowledge that in a most professional way. However, this is a diversion from the real issue and should be quickly disposed of.

By the way ...

Pelosi never claimed anything until the first Republican lie was thrown

Get out of my computer BOEHNER ...

Just another big mouth Republican with nothing positive for America

Republicans ... The Party Of NO ... THING

I believe Nancy Pelosi is telling the truth. Isn't the CIA and the Justice Department the same ones who told is there were WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION? What are THEY hiding or covering up? Maybe they should get Bush and Cheney involved.

Yes boner, lying to Congress IS a crime!

So when do we prosecute Bush and Cheney for lying to congress and the American people?

If Pelosi was complicit in this then she should be investigated and prosecuted if warranted – but let's not be distracted as to who actually authorized and committed the crime of torture in the first place!

This is like trying to lay blame the gun dealer instead of the criminal who pulled the trigger!

Patti,

You say "He and Newt should realize that nobody cares what they say." If this is the case then why are you on here whining? The documents do prove she knew about the waterboard techniques. It is documented. She now needs to prove she was told or given documentation that defends her case. She can "talk" about all she wants, but where is her proof?

All I can do is laugh.... Nancy has FINALLY hung herself and her supporters are dropping like flies. It is time for her to go. She did nothing good during the Bush administration and she has proven that she can't do anything good for her own parties administration. Oh and just my two cents..........it's not anybody's job to prove her wrong. She made the accusation and it's her responsibility to back it up. Everybody knows she can't........that is why they are jumping off her sinking ship. I think she was warned not to open that can of worms........I bet she wishes she could close it.

So, let's see.....the President (Bush) and his entire cabinet mislead (lie) the nation into an utterly and completely useless war, what was arguably the most massive blunder in US Foreign policy history, but that's ok, because Nancy Pelosi may have lied about what the CIA did or did not tell her about torture.

Am I in the twilight zone here?

I mean, seriously......

Talk about obfuscation......the Republicans just continue to be an unmitigated embarrassment to this nation.

wait... why are the republicans spending time on this when they claim waterboarding ISNT torture nor have we ever done torture? Again, speaking out both ends of their mouths. Were we not "misled" according to the Bush administration about WMDs? Did he apologize for the intelligence agencies for calling them out?

Yep, just throw Nancy Pelosi under the bus, while the media and the party of NO keeps Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rummysfeld out of the news....It's NOT working.....CIA was wrong about Iraq

For any person with half a brain her lies have been proven. Pelosi should go!

Yeah right, "prove that you weren't told", exactly how does someone do that? This is the same twisted logic that got us into Iraq. How about one of you neo-cons prove that the CIA DID tell her details on using torture, huh, how about that.

I think she is lying and trying to cover her butt. Throwing mud back at the Republicans doesn't change that. According to everyones logic on here it is okay for her to do it since the Bush administration did? Come on people you can't have it both ways. She needs to go. By the way I'm a Democrat and voted for Obama

Bohner is adhering to the Bush post-911 policies, namely that you are guilty until proven innocent! How about the GOP prove Pelosi was lying? Any WHY is this an issue? Is this ALL the Republicans have left? All they have is to try and pick at words that were said YEARS ago?? During a time when a GOP President was lying to the WHOLE COUNTRY?

If the GOP presses this more, I say launch the FULL investigation into Bush/Cheney war crimes and let's see what dirt WE can find against them! how about Cheney ignoring federal warrant after federal warrant??

The Republicans should be the ones APOLOGIZING ...

To the American people, for all the BS and lies they have been professing TO ALL OF US for 8 years

Give Me A Break ...

Republicans ... The Party Of NO ... MORALS

republicans, you gotta love em. ruined our economy with "do what you want wall street " with no controls, an illegal war, torture our enemy, ruined our relationships with other countries now saying BE HONEST, TELL THE TRUTH. wow. an illegal war that had the president of our country lie to us to justify the war in Iraq???? now, blaming others??? Lincoln would be so proud of this group.

Whats "one" more "lie" coming out of Washington? It happens every day. Sure don't seem like new news to me. We lived thru eight years of lies and nobody did anything about it.

Once again the dems are showing their true colors. Poeple, when you accuse somebody of something, if you are a responsible ADULT, either prove it or apologize. Why is it Pelosi can accuse the CIA of lying, but then doesn't have to prove it?? We know that other dems, like Billy Boy Clinton got this one right. Lie, then blame those who catch you. Unbelievable!!

Boehner has a point however, Bush and that ass Cheney is/was wayyyy worse than Pelosi so he can honestly get a reality check

In light of the way the new administration wants to conduct business and the way majority leader Pelosi is ranting, Iit is my sincere hope that our military on the field of battle will NEVER AGAIN take captives or prisoners. They tend to create problems. Teave them where you encounter them, and leave them DEAD so they will never again challenge you or put your life in danger.

Pelosi – " I did not have briefing with that agency." LOL....Hoisted by her own petard.

Bohner doesn't have to prove it. Clinton's ex-Cheif of Staff Leon Panetta did with his memo on Friday.

Obama may just be change we can believe in. He ain't a pawn of the left.

If Nancy wants to go after folks who knew about these interrogation methods that is fine. However, if she knew and did nothing, then she needs to acknowledge this and be lined up in their ranks. I think this is all a ploy to make the issue of "advanced interrogation methods" go away. Sorta like...."if we go down, you are coming with us"....mentality. I hate politics and I can't stand politicians.

“Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime,” Boehner said.
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Weapons of mass destruction anyone? How about Valerie Plame? Why is the GOP suddenly so concerned about intelligence? When they were in charge, they twisted any intelligence for their own ends! They really are delusional.

This makes no sense at all. How come now they want to prosecute Pelosi, but whenever anything was brought up about Bush, they were adamant to get behind his back and say "torturing helped the country." Just in case they forgot, Bush not only lied about national security matters, but he instigated the entire torture thing. If Pelosi ends up getting prosecuted for something as as stupid as this, I surely hope that Bush goes to jail for life.

This is a complete NON-ISSUE ...

If the CIA briefed her, they must have records ...

Unlike the three Bogus dates that they gave Graham last week ...
suggesting their briefs with him ... three of the dates were proven and admitted as bogus by the CIA just days later

This Republican NON-ISSUE is simply a distraction so as to keep what really went on a secret

Like no WMDs, and the Bush administrations lying to everyone about all their little secrets

REPUBLICANS ,,, The Party Of NO ... new ideas

A bunch of dead heads in suits ...

The republicants are just trying to take the pressure off of themselves. They were the ones that did the deed. Now if you even had an idea of what was happening some how you are more guilty than them. What a smoke screen.

Crazy CIA, How about they provide us with the transcript of what they told Nancy. The CIA brought it up and since they have made a CLAIM they they should have hard evidence to back their CLAIM, She did not start it she only rebuffed a statement that was false, she DOES NOT have to prove anything.

AND TO BE HONEST WE THE CIA SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN USING TORTURE TECHNIQUES ANY WAY

As Democrats, we should be ignoring this attempt by the Republicans to sidetrack us. It is absurd that we give them the time of day. We elected DEMOCRATS to the White House for a reason! Now, our Democratic leaders, including President Barack Obama, need to make a VERY CLEAN break from the Bush administration and the Republican Party and do what THE PEOPLE elected them to do! I am afraid President Obama is setting us up for failure right now with his having retained some of what Bush maintained in his administration. DON'T DO IT! We elected you to bring the CHANGE you promised. Now, do that! No complacency. No hemming and hawing. No games. The Republican Party is doing whatever it can to take advantage of Barack Obama's wish to pattern his Presidency after President Lincoln, but the Republicans of today are NOT the Republicans of yesteryear. It may not be a dream the President will be able to fulfill in its entirety as he wishes. But, it should be the dream the American People elected him to fufill for us. We do not want another Bush White House – not any little piece of it. We want sweeping change. We elected his President to bring us that sweeping change. Stop pandering to the right. They are not going to play fairly and we, The People, are going to suffer for it!

As for Pelosi, she is responsible for her failure which is pretty glaring, IMO. I think it is a shameful legacy she will have to live with. But, by no means, does this warrant any further attention. Stop giving it the attention it does not deserve. Make things as right as you can and then turn your attention very quickly to your job – and, do your job. Simple as that. Ignore the whining and the attempts to pull us off track in bringing single-payer healthcare and getting our troops out of Iraq, etc.. The things that are far more important than worrying about what the Republicans think or seeking their approval. They are NOT going to approve. So, move on and do what is right by the standards and values of those who put you where you are today.

Nice attempt by the Republicans to distract the issue from "Who ordered the torture and was it illegal" to "who knew about it". So, knowing about the crime is worse than the crime itself? Funny how up in arms they get over Pelosi knowing about torture but don't give a hoot about Cheney ordering it. Nice set of priorities! So Republicans, your outrage is laughable and can not be taken seriously. I thought torturing was ok with you?

Don't look at the main issue, look at this sideshow over here!

It hardly matters who was told when about the torture regime, what matters is who instituted it and why.

How come they don't ask them same from Bush and his crew?

Ms Pelosi is a loose cannon. Take out the powder and the ball and let her roll around somewhere else . . . She is not doing the Democrat image much good right now.

And has Boehner ever apologized for any of his words? He and Newt should realize that nobody cares what they say. Boehner has proven to be just as narrow minded and ridiculous as Newt! Newt was thrown out. If Boehner keeps acting like Newt, perhaps his part in all this will service and he will be throw out too!! CAREFUL WHO YOU THROW STONES AT BOEHNER, NEWT, THEY MAY COME BACK TO SMACK YOU IN THE FACE!!

How about the CIA or the Republicans PROVING she is lying

WHAT A JOKE THESE REPUBLICANS ARE ...

The Party of NO ... conscience

Nancy is trying to cover her ample derriere. When will politicians learn that if you say "I'm sorry. I was wrong." things will go much better rather than lying about it and being caught in the lie? We all know politicians lie. That's a given. However, be "man" enough to stand up and say you lied. She has started backpedaling already. #1 sign of a lie.

You Republicans are so crazy. Did Bush Resign for lying to the Nation? Did Cheney resign for constantly lying to the Nation. Why should Peposi resign? You are a bunch of sore losers. You can't stand not to be in control of everything. Shame on the Party of "NO"

NO Bohner, YOU prove it! I know your a rethuglicant congressman so you probably don't know this about our laws, but in this country you are innocent untill proven guilty.
Again Bohner, PROVE IT!

Isn't the time period in question the same time period in which the CIA said the probability of WMDs in Iraq was a "slam dunk"?

This is insane. Nancy Pelosi is now to blame and the Right is demanding she is investigated, steps down, apologizes, etc.

She should be punished instead of Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc?

I think I'm insane....