May 21, 2009
Posted: May 21st, 2009 05:37 PM ET

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Rep. Rob Bishop offered a resolution on the House floor to create a bipartisan investigation of Nancy Pelosi.
Rep. Rob Bishop offered a resolution on the House floor to create a bipartisan investigation of Nancy Pelosi.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - House Republicans' effort to push the resolution to create a bipartisan investigation of Speaker Nancy Pelosi failed Thursday afternoon.

When Utah Republican Rob Bishop offered the resolution on the House floor, the presiding officer in the House ruled it out of order. House rules require that any resolution must pertain to the House itself - the GOP resolution called for an evaluation of statements made by the executive branch (the CIA).

Republicans appealed the ruling and called for a vote, but Democrats rejected the appeal, and it was defeated largely on party lines - 272-172. Two Republicans - Rep. Walter Jones of North Carolina and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas - voted with the Democrats.

After the vote, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer denounced the GOP effort. "The Republicans for the last few weeks have been focused on the politics of personal destruction…." he said. "In this case, it attempts to distract the American public from the very important work that confronts this nation by focusing on the Speaker of the House and the representations she made as to her recollections with reference to a briefing that occurred some seven years ago."

Pelosi was not on the floor when Republicans introduced the resolution because she was in Baltimore delivering a commencement address at Johns Hopkins University.

Her spokesman, Nadeam Elshami, dismissed the move by Republicans. "This is nothing but a political distraction because the Republicans have nothing else to offer," said Elshami.

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Dee, NJ   May 21st, 2009 11:40 pm ET

Mr. Steele, your childeren did not tell YOU what they was doing today! Steele, be the MAN, "U Are The Man.....???

Too True For You   May 21st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

Let me contribute to the republican rebranding effort: Instead of the Grand Obstructionist Party, we can now label them the Grandstanding Obstructionist Party 8)

CJ   May 21st, 2009 10:36 pm ET

Too bad they are not so eager to step up to the plate and prosecute the past administration for war crimes, lying to the American people, sitting on their infamous back sides while Americans died during Hurricane Katrina, and breaking international law. They all talk the talk, but they simply do not know how to walk the walk.

investigation of Speaker Nancy Pelosi?   May 21st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

there is so much that they can spend time on and her ability to stick her foot in her mouth is so far at the bottom of what is important

If you investigate her than most of the politicians need to be investigated, they all speak so much and have moments of saying something so stupid (Dan Quale was very good at it)

Now granted the CIA has enough pressure protecting us with out Polosi flying off the handle on them

But move on... this is a was of time, but not surpising by the party of 'no'

Mark of Saint Louis   May 21st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

You libs need to wake up. The far left started the witch-hunt and now it has engulfed their own. Keep playing "gotcha".

Mark of Saint Louis   May 21st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

We are only supposed to prosecute the Republicans, not the Dems. The Democrats are the innocent angels.

SC   May 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

If Republican are so eager to investigate, why not investigate Bush? He waged an illegal war in Iraq. Nobody dies even if Pelosi lies but a lot of American & Iraqi soldiers & innocent civilians die as a result of Bush's lies.

sandee in Portland   May 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I hate to side with the republicans, but she needs to go away. I am embarassed, as a woman, to have this lying politician who isn't woman enough to admit she made a mistake, in such a position of power. I wish President Obama could just fire her, and I certainly hope the people of California don't forget what she's been like since Obama was elected, and don't re-elect her. To think that she's actually in line for the Presidency if something happened to Obama and Biden makes me ill. She is not a good role model for female politicians. In fact, she's been in office way too long and is now just the typical politician who is only in it for themselves and not for the best interests of the people. As a moderate democrat, she's just a little too far left for me. Term limits should be for all politicians.

m smith   May 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

The repos keep making these dumb resolutions . What a waste of time. They will do anything to distract from the real objectives. Check out the mistakes made by the CIA in explaining who was briefed about waterboarding.

Ken in NC   May 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Republicans are doing just what they want to do. They are getting Congress and the Administration off message. This means their agenda is falling behind. Wake up Democrats and smell the Republicans Coffee Beans.

Beverly in NC   May 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Thank goodnes there are members of Congress who have seen through this Republican smokescreen to hide the real crimes and criminals associated with torture.

The CIA lied to Congress to advance the Bush/Cheney fraudulent war in Iraq and Republicans have the audacity to try to put the blame on Nancy Pelosi??

As we saw today with the increasingly unpopular and delusional Cheney, Republicans still stand behind the illegal use of torture that betrays America's humanitarian values and that puts the US in grave danger for the use of torture techniques.

Pelosi has done nothing wrong and this is going to backfire on the Republicans when Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush and their CIA aides are put on trial for crimes against this nation and against a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11.

Let's stop the garbage going on with Pelosi and go after the real criminals, like Cheney, who show no remorse for all the damage they have caused.

Jenn, Philadelphia   May 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

No, Democrats are entering dangerous territory. How do we believe they want the truth when they don't want a full investigation. You all want to know what Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld knew. I want to know what every member of the Administration and the Congress knew, because in my book those that knew and did nothing are as guilty as those that did it. If calling for an investigation into Pelosi's lies is a "Republican distraction", then voting against it is a "Democrat cover-up".

Maggie   May 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Olivia...................you are truly a stupid person. I hope you get exactly what you voted for.

Charlie   May 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Pelosi is a liar and should be investigated. Even Democrats should be offended by her arrogance and stupdity.

Truth   May 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I'd have a tiny bit of respect for Pelosi if she just came out and said the truth: "I was okay with waterboarding terrorists b/c it spared American lives." But politics, not honesty, is her priority and she'll lie herself silly if it means she can smear her enemy (that's Bush and republicans, not terrorists, er, I mean criminals causing man made disasters)

CHOICE   May 21st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Our tax dollars pay for this kind of JUVENILLE dialogue? What a waste of our tax dollars! This kind of activity" is why many Americans have LOST not less, RESPECT not faith, in Congress. At the heart of this issue is "the act of TORTURE" not, when the Speaker found out, get a grip. Lies, lies, and more lies! The Speaker had nothing to do with giving the command to commit these acts. So why aren't the Republicans asking for the release of all EIT memos? This certainly will implicate "WHAT GOOFIES" even considered these acts, geez! And so she found out later that "waterboarding" was being used, what was she suppose to do, HOLD A NEWS CONFERENCE, hello! Who in their right mind thought no one would find out what was happening? These kinds of people are called FOOLS because they didn't pay attention in History Class and they didn't listen to what the WISE lawyers who got fired, told them was going to happen, and I'm stating "fools" mildly!

Lori   May 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

The Republicans are a joke. Why don't they investigate their party members who authorized the torture, I mean 'enhanced interrogation techniques' (wink, wink)? Give me a break. Diversion tactics. Just like they tried to divert attention from their lack of leadership for the past 8 years. The more they bully Pelosi, the more I will defend her- especially in this situation.

Carl Justus   May 21st, 2009 9:03 pm ET

Whyt weren't the republicans quick to investigate DeLay, Gringrich, Cunningham, and some 5 others that have been indicted for taking money that most would call bribes????

JM   May 21st, 2009 9:00 pm ET

Pilosi promised to "drain the swamp and end the culture of corruption." Maybe she should begin with herself.

Repubs hit stupid truck   May 21st, 2009 8:59 pm ET

Who cares when Pelosi knew about the torture, she could not have done anything about it, besides it was classified. The Bush admin. would no doubt say she was not patriotic, as they did with everyone who opposed their policies. If it is against the law to lie to congress, I believe every one of the representatives would be violating the law. Republicans or the Bush admin, especially torture king Cheney have any sort of credibility to be asking for an investigation. This is one big distraction and I am sure that the majority of the American population will know what this truly is. Cheney is out there to save his own a$$ trying to justify. This is a land of laws, everyone should uphold the law. No one is above the law.

kmp   May 21st, 2009 8:55 pm ET

Midwest May 21st, 2009 5:52 pm ET

Wake up dems !!! You guys are taking this country in the wrong direction and we are all going to pay dearly. Get off your hate republican/bush soap box and start thinking rationally.
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Oh now that is funny really you telling dems for us to wake up and smell the coffee before they take the country in the wrong direction... Ah how I would love to live in your world of deniablity that the republicans have done no wrong in the past 8 yrs.

Steph   May 21st, 2009 8:53 pm ET

Let's investigate them all...starting with Bush and Cheney!

Alicia   May 21st, 2009 8:51 pm ET

What a bunch of White Men Racists...they look like they put their sheets in their closet prior to this announcement.

Are they going to prosecute Cheney, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Cheney, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld?

JT   May 21st, 2009 8:46 pm ET

Big GOP Distraction – The issue is torture under the Bush/Cheney administration.

Are you going to let the likes of Mr. Muppet, the Hall Monitor, Darth Vader, or the Man with the Tan distract you????

Lowell   May 21st, 2009 8:44 pm ET

Investigate Bush!
Investigate Cheney!
Investigate Ashcroft!
Investigate Rice!
Investigate Rumsfeld!
Investigate Rove!
Investigate the entire criminal Bush organization. They actually COMMITTED crimes under the Constitution.

Concerned   May 21st, 2009 8:39 pm ET

What are they worried about finding?

Concerned   May 21st, 2009 8:38 pm ET

Guess they don't really care about the truth....

Henry Miller, Cary, NC   May 21st, 2009 8:38 pm ET

Smells like a cover-up to me...

aws   May 21st, 2009 8:37 pm ET

This republicans do not get it

Greg, San Francisco, CA   May 21st, 2009 8:35 pm ET

"We need to investigate whether the Speaker knew about the torture that we approved of" Uh what?

FaithintheFounders   May 21st, 2009 8:35 pm ET

I agree with those who say we should start at the beginning. Clinton authorized extraordinary renditions BEFORE 9/11 to countries where they do real torture, not just put water up people's noses. I agree, let's get Clinton indicted first.

Ernie in LA   May 21st, 2009 8:34 pm ET

Did you folks really think that this woman would be found guility of anything? The Dems are proud to have her lead their party. What would have happened if Sarah Palin would have called the CIA liars? Do you think anything would be different right now?

Had It   May 21st, 2009 8:30 pm ET

Prosecute the ones that did it – Bush/Cheney.

Just because they and the CIA didn't THOROUGHLY brief the others is not a crime. Torture is the crime Bush/Cheney endorsed.

gary davis Harbor Oregon   May 21st, 2009 8:27 pm ET

well now doesn't that just piss the repub's off

oh well
more important isues to be dealing with than what someones comment is . but Nancy needs to pay attention to what she flaps her mouth off about .

and another republican flop live will go on and our new president will prevale and move us into a new world of truth and justice for all ..hmmm did I say for all .. wow its about time .
well time to eat dinner and watch the local news
hope every one has had a great day and I look forward to the next and take pride in this special weekend

and my american flag is up and waving in the breeze
looking GOOD !!!!!!

Proud American   May 21st, 2009 8:23 pm ET

Republicans are such Moron's.. Why don't they open an investigation into the RNC on Sarah Palin's $200,000 of their money she spent on clothes?

Carol Myers   May 21st, 2009 8:21 pm ET

Ron Paul and Mr Jones are the only ones of the repub. members of the house that have any brains what so ever.

Farnk, Las Vegas   May 21st, 2009 8:15 pm ET

The GOP wants to evade the basic question of torture. Torture IS illegal and Bush and Cheney tortured in our name. But the GOP wants to confuse the issue with a she said he said episode. And Cheney is the worst of all, claiming we gained info while ignoring the LAW. It's like saying, yes I robbed the bank but I used the money for a good purpose. Cheney should be put on trail for War Crimes because that's exactly what he did, in OUR NAME.

Natasha in tally   May 21st, 2009 8:10 pm ET

DUH!!! Repubs are really making fools of themselves.

sandy   May 21st, 2009 8:07 pm ET

Yea and where were they when Bush and Cheney were"putting it to the American people"? I'm 65 years old and have been around for a few Presidents, but never have I seen such a corrupt administration in all my years. We finally have what I feel is an honorable man in the White House and the republicans are hell bent to make him fail. We are behind you Mr. President.

tee   May 21st, 2009 8:02 pm ET

jimmy the Greek

We're just embracing watergate ethics.

catmom   May 21st, 2009 8:01 pm ET

Republicans continue to try and obstruct. The American people are not buying what they are trying to sell. Nancy Pelosi is not the problem. She did not authorize torture, she was not in a position to do anything about it. How about them investigating what the Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert knew and why he didn't do anything about it? How about investigating Dick Cheney who continues to say using torture is the best thing . How about investigating George Bush who Dick Cheney said authorized the use of torture.

The only thing Pelosi should be ousted for was taking impeachment off the table.

Squigman   May 21st, 2009 8:01 pm ET

If your tired of getting lied to, having your assets re-allocated to the wealthest in the nation, and seeing your future with storm clouds aplenty, pay no attention to the republicans calling for investigations of democrats. Pay attention to the cost of driving. Pay attention to the cost of groceries. Pay attention to your own circumstances, and allow the CNN headlines made to distract you to go by the wayside unnoticed. Redherrings are everywhere, including corporate news releases. Big corporations are schills for the republican party.

No Incumbents 2010   May 21st, 2009 8:01 pm ET

No! No! No! you do not seem to understand bi-partisan means you have to agree with us!

tee   May 21st, 2009 7:59 pm ET

Good, just another smoke screen. The GOP should be suffering from smoke inhalation by know.

T Mckinley   May 21st, 2009 7:56 pm ET

The Republicans are at it again!

First, it was the bogus "impeachment" of Bill Clinton. Then it was the bogus "victory" of Bush/Cheney in 2000 (With the help of brother Jeb, Florida Secretary of State Kathreen Harris, and 5 Supreme Court justices). Then it was the bogus "recall" of Governor Gray Davis in California. And now it's THIS.

If Nancy Pelosi was a Republican, they wouldn't be doing this. They would be defending her tooth and nail instead. This is nothing but another attempt by the Republicans to grab power any way they can.

aaa   May 21st, 2009 7:55 pm ET

cry cry cry......... gop is done baby qwe dont need crybabys in here get lost

Andi   May 21st, 2009 7:55 pm ET

Ha ha Newt and Rush!

Bill in California   May 21st, 2009 7:54 pm ET

PELOSI'S STATEMENTS ABOUT CIA BRIEFINGS SOUND A LOT LIKE another famous line..."I may have smoked marijuana but I never did inhale."

ib   May 21st, 2009 7:53 pm ET

The far left always cover their own no matter what they have done. PATHETIC!!!!!!

Bill in Ct.   May 21st, 2009 7:52 pm ET

For some of you on here, who truly thinks Pelosi should resign or she lied SO WHAT she lied, did her lie cost thousand s of lives.

Michele   May 21st, 2009 7:51 pm ET

And yet, they refuse to investigate the people who ORDERED and made sure that torture was done. Republicans have no morals, no ethics, and no sense lately. From trying to rename the opposing party to taking down Pelosi, who did nothing but sit in a meeting where she was sworn to silence, they continue to amaze. And who will be the Republican Speaker of the Week next week...is it Newt's turn again? They seem to have a nice little tag team going...none of them says anything of substance, but they all incite anger and fear. More of the same. Pitifully more of the same.

Richard A. Spomer   May 21st, 2009 7:50 pm ET

Nancy Pelosi is hiding something and is pulling all strings to keep from resigning, and being forced out of office. A woman with that much power is totally dangerous and inconceivably corrupt in everything she does. The Mexicans, Blacks, Asians, and White sexual deviants will continue to support such stupidity.

Claudia in Houson   May 21st, 2009 7:49 pm ET

Do you thunk the GOP learned anything like not following Newt Gingrich. Cheney, Limbaugh, Gingrich and Boehner are GOP grave diggers and Palin will finish them off by throwing the dirt on them. LOL.

Simmy   May 21st, 2009 7:48 pm ET

Speaker Pelosi is going to be fine......She is a strong woman......I admire her more now than I did before.....Republicans can't beat the man (President Obama) so they're ganging up on the woman, and can't even beat her......WOW........

Cheney is aiming to be the old new leader of the Republican party.
Limbaugh is attempting to rule from the sidelines instead of full throttle.....Michael Steele is in charge of reading nouns, verbs and stupid lines........They haven't invited him into their ncna circle........They don't let him handle the money anymore........He is only allowed to read scripts handed to him thirty minutes before presentations......Through him, Republicans are attempting to repackage the 'Amos 'n' Andy' complex.........

Cynthia - Arkansas   May 21st, 2009 7:47 pm ET

Seeing how all of the memos coming out show that Pelosi was telling the truth, that could have something to do with it. The memos have the wrong dates, the wrong people listed as being there, as well as catch phrases that weren't used at the time they say these memos were written. Even the CIA says that they aren't sure if their information is accurate. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? The Republicans need to find something else to howl about. They have beat this dead horse long enough.

Robert, Houston, TX   May 21st, 2009 7:42 pm ET

WASTE OF T-I-M-E!!!!!

the GOP just needs to go away.

sfw   May 21st, 2009 7:41 pm ET

Republicans just trying to keep the forcus off of the TORTURE THEY APPROVED***Nancy Pelosi is a Liar ?...Someone need to be investigating Cheney, Bush & Company** Now I understand why Cheney is opening his LYING PIE HOLE every week ....again cheney is war monger and should be in jail !!!

frank, pennsylvannia   May 21st, 2009 7:40 pm ET

Republicans are digging their grave by their persistence in destructive criticisms without considering the difficult times of the people that put them in the congress. I think they have lost their focus and sense of direction, they need to be recalled by their constituencies!

Randy   May 21st, 2009 7:34 pm ET

I can Bet, if the Democrats push for a resolution for investigation against Bush and Cheney for War Crimes and Misleading Americans about WMDs of Iraq – It would Pass.

Randy   May 21st, 2009 7:33 pm ET

I can Bet, if the Democrats push for a resolution for investigation against Bush and Cheney for War Crimes and Misleading Americans about WMDs of Iraq – I would Pass.

Leon   May 21st, 2009 7:30 pm ET

Peolosi is betraying the nation, and "demonizing" the CIA...

Minnesotan   May 21st, 2009 7:28 pm ET

Ha, Ha, GOP! Another sad and pathetic ploy of yours is thwarted. We're going to make America great again, whether you like it or not!

chuck tulsa   May 21st, 2009 7:26 pm ET

The Republicans just can’t stand that Speaker Pelosi is more masculine then they are. If you look up the phrase “worthless pile” in the dictionary there is a picture of Rush Limpbra, the repug King, for graphic illustration purposes.

get real   May 21st, 2009 7:26 pm ET

Really? Last time I checked Nancy Pelosi wasn' t the president when the issue of torture was raised. And, because I listen to more than talking points, I discovered that there were republicans in the room at the time as well, AND they were the majority party. I'm no fan of hers, but she could have said something then and the GOP would have labeled her traitor for not blindly supporting the president.

Get Real Republicants. Your former leader may have confused the American public into launching a war in Iraq, but this time we won't miss the mark of the real purpotraitors of torture.

Purple Spider   May 21st, 2009 7:25 pm ET

We should be surprised if Pelosi gets "axed"! It is obvious that the Democrats are going to protect her, to save their reputation. It does not matter whether she comitted a crime or not, for this is Washington corruption! This "soap opera" could drag on with no change, or Pelosi could be investigated by the CIA, or who knows? Does anyone really care, other than she does not do her job?

This is "typical"   May 21st, 2009 7:23 pm ET

Progressive nitwits, just like Dick Cheney wants the memo's released PROVING that EIT's SAVED LIVES, the Republicans here want TRUTH commisions to get to the bottom of who did what, knew what and when they knew it, THEY WELCOME IT.

Who is running away from the truth, Barry and the Lemocrats, as they know they will be in deep trouble if everyone knows the real truth.

EIT's even saved your hapless progressive behinds, not like you deserved it, but the terrorists don't care if you are a wimpy liberal, they will kill you just because you are an American (see NY yesterday).

BRING IT ON.

Matt   May 21st, 2009 7:21 pm ET

Transparency in government, Change you can believe in. Don't look now Barry but your own party is making you look like a dolt again. I guess they did not get the memo about transparency.

You thought it would be so easy to cast stones at the Bush administration didn't you? Looks like this one backfired. How long till Pelosi comes out and says she was for the waterboarding before she was against it.

Sorry but waterboarding is not torture. Eric Holder looked like a stuttering dolt the other day trying to explain how waterboarding was torture but ok when the US military has done it to soldiers for over 40 years now.

Liberals are too stupid for their own good at times.

Matt   May 21st, 2009 7:18 pm ET

Transparency in government, Change you can believe in. Don't look now Barry but your own party is making you look like a dolt again. I guess they did not get the memo about transparency.

You thought it would be so easy to cast stones at the Bush administration didn't you? Looks like this one backfired. How long till Pelosi comes out and says she was for the waterboarding before she was against it.

Never Repub again   May 21st, 2009 7:18 pm ET

dick cheney is afraid for his butt and will say anything. REPUBS DONT LOVE AMERICA, ONLY MONEY.
Papa Bush is in WEAPONS MFG. War is only a business deal.
GOP is the American Taliban.

ken   May 21st, 2009 7:18 pm ET

GOP is stuck...

Kimberly   May 21st, 2009 7:17 pm ET

WOW the GOP wants to spend money and TIME to see if Pelosi knew about waterboarding SEVEN years ago, but NOT to see if bush and cheney lied, forged papers, threatened people and changed documents to get us into a war, no sorry an OCCUPATION, for oil. Funny their priorities are not for this country, but for their own necks!!!! SHAME ON THE GOP!!!!

B Lewis in Austin   May 21st, 2009 7:16 pm ET

Until they start any investigation at the very top, the rest means nothing.

Ryan   May 21st, 2009 7:15 pm ET

The GOP wants to investigate a "he said, she said" incident but not the actual laws that were broken by the Bush administration. If they are going to be such purists about "lying" I've got a long list that need to be investigated, starting with Cheney, Rove, Rumsfield, and GW Bush!

MikeTo   May 21st, 2009 7:13 pm ET

Are they gonna tell Congresssman Ron Paul to leave the Republican Party as well?

Hannah Stevens   May 21st, 2009 7:13 pm ET

The fact is that the CIA lies much more often than Nancy Pelosi. They lied to get the war in Iraq, about the weapons in Iraq.

Charlie in Maine   May 21st, 2009 7:12 pm ET

But Newt said so. Oh wait that's right Newt isn't in power anymore. Thank God and the electorate that meant spirited criminal is history.

Hannah Stevens   May 21st, 2009 7:12 pm ET

This is what the GOP did with Clinton. They tried every means with Bill and Hillary and nothing would stick until they were able to find out about the infidelity and then they went full bore. And they are doing this again, attacking Obama at every corner. Instead of trying to help out to make our country better, the republican party is all about control and power. They care not for the American people. And I think people know that now and that is why only 20% admit to being republican. They should just continue on this path and they will be the party of nowhere.

4 and The Door   May 21st, 2009 7:11 pm ET

Can you blame them? It's obvious that an investigation will prove that she is not telling the truth. That's bad for all Democrats.

I really don't care if she's telling the truth or not. She's got so many other philosophical problems this is trivial in comparison. But this, my friends is the beginning of the end for the Democratic house of cards. Watch how quickly she pulls it all down with her.

Is it 2010 yet?

Lexia   May 21st, 2009 7:10 pm ET

The GOP has become a party of disgruntled old white men who still view themselves as royalty.

Matt B   May 21st, 2009 7:09 pm ET

You Democrats are defending the same lying and corruption that the Republicans did during the Bush administration. Yes, the Bush administration lied to the world and should be investigated for that but why is it now ok for the Democrats to do the same thing?

Daryl from Seattle   May 21st, 2009 7:08 pm ET

Haa Haa....

CindyLouWho   May 21st, 2009 7:07 pm ET

SLAMMER!! Will those silly Republicans ever move on to the important issues facing our country? They really have become a Party based on nothing.

Willy Brown   May 21st, 2009 7:06 pm ET

Let’s investigate. Treat her like a republican CNN and attack But you won't she's a democrat, she's pure, she's a victim. QUICK blame bush!

Expat in Canada   May 21st, 2009 7:03 pm ET

I have no problem investigating Pelosi as long as they investigate everyone, including Rove, Bush, Cheney, etc. It really is time to get a truth commission working on this so politicians can't just focus the issue on one person and ignore the bulk of the problems and crimes going on in DC

The Broker.   May 21st, 2009 7:01 pm ET

The Fall of the House of Husher. Bella Lugosi....

DAVE N CA   May 21st, 2009 7:00 pm ET

hey moderator why don't you post the truth that i just put down for all of these bleeding hearts.....

Gary   May 21st, 2009 7:00 pm ET

Pelosi tortures us with her fake botox smile and her mean spirited comments at least once per week. I'd rather be waterboarded. lol.

Seriously, Bush kept us safe. Repubs and Dems (including Pelosi) approved of extreme measures because they were scared. They all wanted to keep up safe. It isn't any more complicated than that. Lets stop blaming, stop investigating and move on!

proud army navy mom   May 21st, 2009 6:59 pm ET

thank you democrats, now we can move on the the indictments, arrests, and convictions of the real war crimes. the entire bush administration has got to stand trial

Rosalinda Torres Lawrence, Mass   May 21st, 2009 6:58 pm ET

So are republicans actually admitting they tortured?. Lets focus on the people at the top of the food chain, say the Bush Administration, didn't they give the orders and allowed such actions to take place? YES!! I Don't get the twitted 'logic' of this people, investigate Pelosi for saying CIA lied and misled congress, but don't investigate the actual criminals who are behind the facts??????? Doesn't the CIA have a shaky reputation to begin with, even republicans have called them liers, but the shoe only fits on the other side as far as republicans are concerned, I say let the dice roll and fall where it may, and I bet this is only the beggining of the awful things Bush and company did, HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter E   May 21st, 2009 6:58 pm ET

I love how republicans are trying to deflect the whole issue of the torture investigation onto an inconsequential player who had nothing to do with its decision. It is the torture perpetrators who need to be investiagetd first!

giselle   May 21st, 2009 6:57 pm ET

I wish CNn that you wuld stop telling us about CHeney. He should be sent to jail for wasting the public money with his Haliburton. I am praying for the day when he gets what he deserves, he is an evil man. So leave Pelosi alone.

Franky   May 21st, 2009 6:56 pm ET

Poor Pelosi, huh? LOL!!! She's getting picked on, like I said, that's what she gets. I do bet that she learned...A LOT! LOL!!

Proud DHS radical   May 21st, 2009 6:56 pm ET

Republicans will just have to wait till after the 2010 elections and if they win back the majority, hearings into just what Pelsoi knew can begin. They can also then fry Barney Frank and the others dems that were behind the housing debacle.

Truth-Bomb Thrower   May 21st, 2009 6:55 pm ET

This lying, incompetent ding-bat needs to be forced out of the speaker's seat. But unfortunately her fellow CORRUPT dumb-a-crats are not going to let that happen. Elections have consequences.

Betts   May 21st, 2009 6:54 pm ET

The GOP just can't seem to let go......what egos they have! (ick)

Fla.   May 21st, 2009 6:54 pm ET

The Republicans are so s-l-o-w. I may not always agree with Speaker, but Pelosi already called for a bipartisan, independent commission.

Just remember: when these hypocritical Republicans are pointing a finger at Speaker Pelosi, there are four more pointing back at them for their torture in the first place! It's wrong!!

Post always rejected by CNN   May 21st, 2009 6:53 pm ET

Maybe now the democrats should push a resolution to investigate gingrich and the republicans. I would like to know how in the world gingirich is an authority on something that happened in a secret intel committee. After all HE said Nancy Pelosi lied. This from a guy who was forced to resign after he lied and committed fraud. Gee and the republicans think he is telling the truth, no wonder they are the party of No...they have NO sense.

Tom   May 21st, 2009 6:52 pm ET

Do the Democrats really not care if Nancy Pelosi lied? Forget the partisan politics and the criticism of the Republicans. The question still stands, do Democrats care if the Speaker of the House and a leader of their party lied? If you do, it doesn't matter about the Republicans, if you don't, then you can't care about any politician lying. This is one of your key leaders. Do you care or not?

Nancy   May 21st, 2009 6:52 pm ET

Pelosi knew about the waterboarding years ago. She's not telling the truth (again). When are the libs and dems going to start taking responsibility for their own actions and words. Not everything was Bush & Cheney's fault.

Jamie   May 21st, 2009 6:52 pm ET

Ha! Ha! I can't believe the daily side show the republican party has been reduced to. Can these fools top today's debacle, tomorrow? I'll wager that hey can do it. Emmett Kelly must be laughing somewhere right now.

Robb   May 21st, 2009 6:51 pm ET

The Republican Party has become a party of grumpy old white men who just can't get over themselves. They still think they are royalty!

floridian   May 21st, 2009 6:50 pm ET

What disturbs me about most of these comments is that the "oh so righteous" fail to understand who we are talking about. We are talking about the person who is just two bad hamburgers away from being the President of this country. Are her recent actions acceptable to you for someone to be President? If the answer is "yes" to a majority of you, then this country is in terrible shape and headed to hell.

Charles   May 21st, 2009 6:50 pm ET

They have to do something in Congress to pass time by since the Cap/Trade Bill, Global Warming, UAW/GM Deal, and other new regulations are getting by bypassed Congress and going straight to the President/Executive branch knowing they won't get passed in Congress.

Has CNN done a ticker yet about the great economic news of the day? If you haven't heard, new unemployment claims dropped this week! Only 615,000 or so new claims for the 16-straight week of breaking the previous all-time record in claims. Can't wait to see what happens in the next month when thousands more from CA join that list.

Troy   May 21st, 2009 6:49 pm ET

The GOP is looking like spoiled little rich kids kicking and screaming to get their way. Sad.

Republicans Suck   May 21st, 2009 6:49 pm ET

How about investigate Bush & Cheney?

Jeff   May 21st, 2009 6:47 pm ET

Pelosi should be ousted, but not for this reason. "this reason" is nothing more than a GOP distraction in the hopes of turning the spotlight away from their self destruction.

Republicans are the American Taliban   May 21st, 2009 6:47 pm ET

Limpbaugh is an Oxymoron

w.l. jones   May 21st, 2009 6:44 pm ET

The Republican is left on the dock and they all singing the boat is sinkig trying to get attention. The general public is not interesting, all they want is job....jobs and repub is crying speak to me.,speak to me please.

Sandra Day   May 21st, 2009 6:43 pm ET

Wow! Sick is as sick does, I guess.

WAW   May 21st, 2009 6:42 pm ET

Did anyone else notice who is standing on Rep Bishop's right in the picture. This must be a really old, old, old picture because that is none other then resigned under disgrace former Speaker Newt. But then the Republicans like old stuff so much. There's Rush (has been Mr Mad), Newt (has been Mr Speaker) and Cheney (has been, period), the Grand OLD Party that was.

Moderate Democrat   May 21st, 2009 6:42 pm ET

eh, you can have Pelosi. She ain't much to look at, and I certainly can't defend her.

But I can say this; At her WORST, She is TEN times better then the best republican, and at her best, she is by far the worst democrat we have ever seen in the history of the democratic party.

Do the math!

Kenyan Wonder Kid   May 21st, 2009 6:42 pm ET

If the CIA lied and misled, then WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT! Isn't that of prime importance to the Democrats?? The only other rationale for their sudden reticence is that deep down they all know that Pelosi is a lying bag of fertilizer that will be exposed and destroyed if this went ahead.

DEMS = HYPOCRITCS

Andyb   May 21st, 2009 6:42 pm ET

Well darn it, sounded like such a good diversionary tactic too. Now are we going to get back to the issue of torture? Probably not.

mrs b   May 21st, 2009 6:40 pm ET

Thanks, Congress for not wasting our time! Any special investigations should focus on Cheny, Rove and their company of thugs. We know already that the entire war effort was based on lies. My generation will pay for this for many years.

Where was the outrage when Ms Cheney Outed CIA operative Valerie Plame   May 21st, 2009 6:38 pm ET

Where was the outrage when Ms. Cheney Outed CIA operative Valerie Plame?

Playing partisan politics with torture-gate is the last card the republiklans have before they become extinct into oblivion!!!!

Why didn't the GOP call for a criminal investigation against Dick Cheney when he Outed CIA operative Valerie Plame?!

Allen in Hartwell GA   May 21st, 2009 6:36 pm ET

The Republicans newest ploy is this:
Democrats knew that what we were doing was wrong and they did nothing to stop us. Therefore Democrats are the criminals here.
Republicans were just doing what they do: screwing things up and blaming someone else.

Bev - NYC   May 21st, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Why is Newt hovering in the background. Someone looking for payback overbeing forced to resign by his own party for ethics violation. You were sleeping with your staff member, 20 yrs your jr while still married Newt. You're yesterday's news get over yourself Nancy said a spy agency mis-lead her, last I check good spies lie for a living. It is really so unbelieveable that they would mis-lead someone outside the agency. Use your gray metter people, it's been well rested for the past 8 yrs.

No Hope   May 21st, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Because the Demoncrates and the anti-christ are all liers who are making this country less safe and supports terroist activities while protecting liers in Congress

Where was the outrage when Ms Cheney Outed CIA operative Valerie Plame   May 21st, 2009 6:34 pm ET

Where was the outrage when Ms. Cheney Outed CIA operative Valerie Plame?

steve   May 21st, 2009 6:34 pm ET

Oh that's OK we will get rid of all the soacialists soon the communist democrat party is a joke they are showing the true color of them i think it's great and to James carville your 40 year thing is a joke pal you thugs might make it 4 years i doubt it.

Joseph, Los Angeles California   May 21st, 2009 6:32 pm ET

I'm glad it failed. This is not about Pelosi, this is about illegal torture. Once again, the misguidance of the republican party has failed.

America is awake now after the 8 year slumber and refuses to be misled anymore. We are a smarter nation now and getting smarter all the time.

SA in OO   May 21st, 2009 6:31 pm ET

Please, Please, Please !

Someone please tell the Republican leadership that attacking the leaders of the opposite party for inconsequential statements isn't a strategy for success any more.

Most people, Democrats and Republicans alike, don't care much for Pelosi (or Reid either for that matter), but this kind of petty posturing is such a waste of time.

There are REAL ISSUES that need your attention. This isn't one of them.

AKsteve   May 21st, 2009 6:31 pm ET

I wish they'd spend more time voting on health care, the economy and national security.

You know, the things that actually matter.

jaye   May 21st, 2009 6:31 pm ET

The GOP should be investigating Bush and Cheney and their war based on lies and their torture!!!

Eugene   May 21st, 2009 6:30 pm ET

Wait, let me get this straight. This party that is calling for the lynching of Nancy Pelosi, are they the same party that put up with a President and Vice President that not only lied their way through eight years of international mayhem, but killed hundreds of thousands in the process? Just curious. This should not justify in any way Pelosi's conduct because the Democrats are holding themselves to a higher standard of ethics than the Republicans have in recent history, and they should be accountable to that higher standard.

DaBird   May 21st, 2009 6:29 pm ET

Congress is corrupt. Why wouldn't any honest person want to replace this liar named Pelosi with an honest Democrat? TERM LIMITS

No Incumbents 2010   May 21st, 2009 6:28 pm ET

Gingrich is a lying hypocrite for trying to turn the Congress into a partisan attack machine. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
He need to focus on the REAL problems but obviously the GOP has no ideas.

Ted Tartaglia   May 21st, 2009 6:28 pm ET

A typical attempt by the RepubliCONs to create an issue. The party of NO let by Boner has to try to divert attention from their support of torture by saying Pelosi did not do enough to stop it. The bigger issue why the RepubliCONs condoned it.

When looking at RepubliCON leaders Limbaugh, Hannity, Gingrich, Steel, McConnell, and Boehner, it is easy to understand why no one wants to admit to being a RepubliCON. What a bunch of losers.

Zion   May 21st, 2009 6:26 pm ET

Republicans do not want investigations. First of all, if Pelosi gets investigated, then it would lead to more investigations of our Congress as a whole. Pres. Obama would really be able to work as a dictator because Congress would be empty. Anyone who would vote for an unjust war (Republicans/Democrats) would most likely allow torture if it were politically expedient. Stop drinking the kool-aid Democrats and Republicans. All of your people are guilty.

Laverne   May 21st, 2009 6:26 pm ET

The republicans must really fear Nancy Pelosi or why else would they be obsessed with trying to bring her down. They know she can get things done on capitol hill and they want her out of the way.

Peter (CA)   May 21st, 2009 6:23 pm ET

I don't know if she lied but Sen. Bob Graham, who supposedly was also told, was on TV yesterday saying he was not informed.
So, the CIA could be misleading? Maybe.

But this is now about partisan whining. Get of your high horse, right wingers. Any laws that were broken came from YOUR people.

MidwestGuy   May 21st, 2009 6:22 pm ET

Liberals, you are making fools out of yourselves. You call for investigations, yet, when one of your own has been caught you so easily turn the other way and blame the other party? How can you have any credibility at all? You don't want truth, you only care for your own power at any cost. I'm I wrong? Then prove it!

eric   May 21st, 2009 6:22 pm ET

What happened to the truth commision? Marcia is it wrong for the republicans to vote against all of the pork bills and the bailing out of companies that are going to continue to fail? Other than that the republican have no say in negotiations with the control freaks on the left.

Eric-30m-PUMA voted McCain   May 21st, 2009 6:21 pm ET

Off with Pelosi's head!

Chris   May 21st, 2009 6:21 pm ET

Asking members of Congress to investigate a member of Congress is a really novel idea isn't it? Why, pray tell, would one liar tell on another unless it was to save their own hide?

itbeme   May 21st, 2009 6:21 pm ET

how about we investigate the LIES that got us into the Iraq war first.......

Laverne   May 21st, 2009 6:20 pm ET

Repubs how about getting to the bottom of the lies the last administration told. Repubs will continue to fail because their motives and hearts are in the wrong place. Most of the rethugs have no integrity or conscious at all. It aint over till it's over and if they continue to try and make Nancy Pelosi pay for Bush/Cheney sins, I think they will soon find out who is really in control so keep it up!

Joe the Troll   May 21st, 2009 6:18 pm ET

How are those party lines working out for you now, Repubs? I guess now it's partisanship, whereas it was "sticking to ideology" when you did it.

Brad   May 21st, 2009 6:17 pm ET

More partisan sniping that gets the country nowhere. This is something that the Republicans have become very good at.

Hey BIG Spender   May 21st, 2009 6:16 pm ET

Spew, Spew , Spew , Spew...all the canned responses from the liberal brigade. At least have something more original to say other than rally chants on the ticker- geez. Boh-ring.

fools, fooled by obama   May 21st, 2009 6:14 pm ET

Nancy PeLIEsi, i guess your chickens haven't come home to roost yet.

DAVE N CA   May 21st, 2009 6:14 pm ET

tomorrow should be a dandy of a weekly news conference for the 3rd in line for the presidency..... she should really start using a teleprompter like her MASTER.... it sure helps him when he needs a little help in making his point, well until the man telling him what to say repeats something said earlier..... what a party..... and can someone help me understand why the demorats need a SPEED READER to run through the 900+ page environmental bill???? That real life RAT from California that wrote this piece of doo that will basically sink whats left of Americas industry, you would think the moron public servants would take the time to read it so that we don't have the same result as the PORKULUS BILL that POTUS shoved down Americans throats that hasn't done anything for the country

Sweep Around Your Own Front Door   May 21st, 2009 6:13 pm ET

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face? How can they investigate Pelosi without hurting their own party since they advocated the torture? They can't bring the President down so they settle for the Speaker. Come on Republicans, this is making you look like the GED laureates that make your base up instead of attorneys and long time politicians who should know better than this particular smear campaign. Ever heard the old gospel song that has lyrics that read "sweep around your own front door, before you try to sweep around mine?" Republicans, how can you hunt liars when you yourselves wouldn't know the truth even if it punched you in the mouth?

INDEPENDANT VET   May 21st, 2009 6:12 pm ET

Why you know democrats are like fly's on fresh cow manure , they all stay and cover the pot. So this is no suprise . Plus they will out right lie for one another . Yet some say they are Christians , must all belong to Wright's pew. , or are learning the quarm . For they had all the soldiers Bibles burnt in Afghanistan , what a buch the Bama administration is turning out to be. Now we protect a out right Liar.

Laplace   May 21st, 2009 6:12 pm ET

Your vote count has to have a typo. 272 + 172 = 444.

John-Black Hills/SD   May 21st, 2009 6:10 pm ET

The CIA lies...is this news. Iraq/WMD's/CIA flights with detainees. Of course the CIA lies, because saying, "I'm sorry", doesn't go over well in the international intelligence sector.

Watergate Watergate Pelosigate   May 21st, 2009 6:10 pm ET

Shame on the Democratic Majority in Congress This is a coverup of the worst kind. By not investigating the extremely serious charges levied by Pelosi against the CIA, it becomes apparent to all that Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, and third in line to the Presidency, lied to Congress and lied to the American people. This is shameful and she ought to resign as she has compromised national security for political gain

Iyapo Kontar   May 21st, 2009 6:10 pm ET

Thye president should tell he american people that so Den as well as some rep

should be changed.

We need Dem who will not sell out

Lets Vote

Tatjana   May 21st, 2009 6:09 pm ET

Are Americans so blinded by partisanship , that they would not allow an investigation of a politician who besmirched men and women who work to keep your country safe.
I always thought that Americans were fair minded and therefore hope that the CIA will have the right to defend themselves and show proof that Pelosi attended those meetings.
It was quite clear that she lied and will say anything to get herself out of this mess. Her remarks were quite disgusting.

Big Al   May 21st, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Pelosi is a disgrace.

JLS   May 21st, 2009 6:07 pm ET

@Sniffit, It is the fact that Nancy publicly called the CIA "Liars", produced no proof, and got away with it.

Sounds like she knew about the torture before she didn't. Perhaps she should give John Kerry a call!!

Paul from Phoenix   May 21st, 2009 6:07 pm ET

Protecting their own.

Barbara Campbell   May 21st, 2009 6:06 pm ET

Does the rightwing have anything – ANYTHING – positive or productive to offer?

michigan needs jobs!   May 21st, 2009 6:05 pm ET

Give the GOP what they want! Investigate Pelosi AND Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfield, Rice AND all members of congress who were involved with authorizing torture. Be careful what you ask for GOP.

Gary SC   May 21st, 2009 6:04 pm ET

Remember when Moe would swing his right hand in a circle and then poke Larry in the eyes with his left. It's called ' Diversion"
Cm'on GOP, we're a little smarter than that.
Cheney looked like a clown today.

Sniffit   May 21st, 2009 6:04 pm ET

@ nick, who said "Perhaps now,CNN can refrain from giving Newt Gingrich coverage of this type of crap stories."

Apparently not. They simply had to make sure he was in that picture.

barking republican ankle biters   May 21st, 2009 6:04 pm ET

Pelosi is telling the truth and they know it.Why isnt Hannity getting waterboarded for Charity like he promised?Hes a coward,thats why.All mouth and no action.

Proud Member..Party of No   May 21st, 2009 6:03 pm ET

This turned out exactly as the republicans hoped it would.....the dumbocrats are exposed for their blatant acceptance of a liar as their congressional leader, the vaunted Obama "transparency" is once again exposed for the joke that it is and the dumbocrats are stuck with the wicked witch of the west as their leader for at least a while longer which will make the 2010 elections much easier to win for republicans.

John   May 21st, 2009 6:02 pm ET

The biggest foreign policy, economic, and domestic security disasters in generations happened on the watch of the Republican controlled presidency and Republican controlled Congress.

And yet Nancy Pelosi is all the Republicans want to talk about now.

J.P.   May 21st, 2009 6:02 pm ET

"Torture," eh?

This should be the test to determine if waterboarding is torture:
If people VOLUNTEER to be waterboarded FOR FREE on reality TV, then it's not torture.

Look if being scared out of your wits and getting wet in the process is now "torture," then Six Flags is in a lot of trouble. Honestly, anyone who has successfully become a special forces troop in our US Armed Forces has undergone this "torture" and lived to tell about it. Can't really say the same for Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg and the lack of "torture" they received, now can we?

jason007thomas   May 21st, 2009 6:02 pm ET

This is just more grand standing by the GOP to make themselves some what relavent. If she had lied under oath then yeah she'd have some explaining to do but she was'nt. so nice try GOP, go back to the drawing board or take a look in the mirror. Those old good ole boy whites only country club taktics dont work any more. Us gen. xers are all grown up now and were hear to stay.

Sniffit   May 21st, 2009 6:00 pm ET

It's the torture, stupid!

DAVE N CA   May 21st, 2009 6:00 pm ET

wow....... do you think these demorats are trying to save the "QUEEN B"???? i guess you can say that this is a victory for the republicans since the CIA will deal with her in there own way since she won't be able to keep her mouth shut...... do what you do best demorats..... ruin the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Jimmy the Greek   May 21st, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Democrats searching for the TRUTH ...refuse to look into Pelosi LIES.

Glad to see the democrats embracing Chappaquiddick Ethics!

Marcia, Marcia, Marcia in CA   May 21st, 2009 5:57 pm ET

The party of NO was just told NO!!!

How you like me now??

rebekah   May 21st, 2009 5:54 pm ET

Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain.... this is the GOP's mantra ...Bush lied thousands died...and now we can add torture into the mix...how can ANYONE think waterboarding is not torture? LOOK IT UP!!!

Jacked Up Polictics_FLORIDA   May 21st, 2009 5:54 pm ET

Someone need to be investigating Cheney & Bush. Why is media still giving Mr. Sesspool Cheney a spot on clean carpet. The fact that all of a sudden Cheney is the expert on what Obama should do.

NEWS FLASHHHH Cheney...YOU HAD YOUR TURN 8 YEARS AND YOUR MESSED UP DUDE!!!

Midwest   May 21st, 2009 5:52 pm ET

you are all missing the boat...this lady needs to be ousted...she has done nothing positive or bipartisan since she has been in office. her leftist agenda does not and should not sit well with any citizen of the USA. Wake up dems !!! You guys are taking this country in the wrong direction and we are all going to pay dearly. Get off your hate republican/bush soap box and start thinking rationally.

Kelby In Houston, TX   May 21st, 2009 5:51 pm ET

They knew that they would fail. they just wanted to get some dirt on Pelosi. Trust this is not over. The people are demanding that the Bush Administration be brought to justice. This call will not subside until justice is done

nick   May 21st, 2009 5:51 pm ET

Perhaps now,CNN can refrain from giving Newt Gingrich coverage of this type of crap stories. If CNN likes covering Newt, maybe they should revisit his record from his time as speaker. ( the man who tried to bring the Government to a halt, because he didn´t get to sit with the President on a flight on Air Force One).

gl, Pittsburgh   May 21st, 2009 5:50 pm ET

It is torture the needs to Be investigations stupid not some lie by Nancy. Republicans just trying to keep the forcus off of the TORTURE THEY APPROVED.

John M in CA   May 21st, 2009 5:50 pm ET

They first want to investigate HER?
Let's start with your figure heads first, you GOP manipulators.

Olivia   May 21st, 2009 5:50 pm ET

It disturbs me to know to watch the Republican Party try to sabotage and try to nit pick anything our new President and his cabinet does. It seems to me that for this is the business as usual for the GOP. They have nothing new to contribute to a changing society.
GOP PLEASE MOVE FORWARD OR MOVE OUT OF THE WAY! YOUR WAY OF RUNNING DOING THINGS IS OVER. YOUR TIME HAS PAST.

Roy Arellano (San Antonio, TX)   May 21st, 2009 5:46 pm ET

The GOP will call an investigation on Pelosi...would they call the same inquiry on their own members who've made similiar actions in the past? Probably not.

TERM LIMITS ON POLITICIANS

Greg   May 21st, 2009 5:45 pm ET

I'm still failing why this matters as opposed to the actual torture which is against ours and other civilized countries laws

TheThinker   May 21st, 2009 5:45 pm ET

Thank you, Mr. Paul for not buying into the hypocritical hysteria of the House GOP.

Alfred E. Neumann   May 21st, 2009 5:42 pm ET

What a circus – liars attempting to investigate a fellow liar.

And perhaps now they no longer wonder why their approval rating is so low – not that they ever cared in the first place.

Judy   May 21st, 2009 5:42 pm ET

The Republicans are entering sticky territory going after the Speaker. If they want investigations, then they should only have to go as far as their bathroom mirror.

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