May 29th, 2009
02:26 PM ET
6 years ago

Levin: Memos don't show what Cheney says they do

Democratic Sen. Carl Levin is challenging former Vice President Cheney's recent claims about the effectiveness of the Bush administration's use of harsh interrorgation techniques.
Democratic Sen. Carl Levin is challenging former Vice President Cheney's recent claims about the effectiveness of the Bush administration's use of harsh interrorgation techniques.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, says former Vice President Dick Cheney's claims - that classified CIA memos show enhanced interrogation techniques like waterboarding worked - are wrong.

Levin, speaking at the Foreign Policy Association's annual dinner on Wednesday, said an investigation by his committee into detainee abuse charges over the use of the techniques - now deemed torture by the Obama administration - "gives the lie to Mr. Cheney's claims."

The Michigan Democrat told the crowd that the two CIA documents that Cheney wants released "say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of abusive techniques."

"I hope that the documents are declassified, so that people can judge for themselves what is fact, and what is fiction," he added.

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  1. WYO.

    I hope some day you people pull your head out of you rears long enough to really know what is going on in this world. Cheney does not have ot lie, he knows the truth and he speaks the truth.

    May 29, 2009 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  2. Ted Tartaglia

    Cheney is a proven liar as well as a coward. It is time for Cheney to put up or shut up!

    May 29, 2009 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  3. Tom Eyemdaman

    @Jim in San Jose

    Actually, Levin is a lawyer, Cheney is not. How ironic that you state a joke which contradicts what you believe. :)

    May 29, 2009 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  4. I laugh at Limbaugh daily

    He will look great in a tent sized orange jump suit and shackles.

    May 29, 2009 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  5. william brown

    is this really an issue rather a document does or dosen`t show some thing about a matter that has little effect on the rising gas prices or food prices or home foreclosure, this is why its hard to keep any faith in the media/political parties. Its never a solution to a real problem having the media`s attention.

    May 29, 2009 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  6. Greg

    I laugh everytime I see someone post concerning Obama's Birth Certificate when it was released early in the campaign and is online for anyone's perusal. Let's just continue to make up our own truth like Dick!

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  7. BK

    Using Dick Cheney as a source of truth,justice, ethics and role-modeling makes as much sense as using the CEOs of AIG or Fannie Mae as a source of good business practices.

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  8. Clay

    Well that should be a no-brainer. Cheney is a pathological liar whose logic is second only to that of Goering at Nuremberg. This man needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and locked away forever – or at least until his batteries run out.

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  9. John Kellermeyer

    Since the day Lynn Cheney's father forced Dick back to college, with the long term goal of a monster to do the bidding of Skull and Bones within the framework of our compromised government, Dick Cheney lost whatever replica of a Soul he may have earned, given time and a forgiving Universe.

    Too late now to undo his life.

    It's not too late to prosecute.

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  10. jim, Middletown, Connecticut

    In this thread, someone suggested since we only waterboarded three alledged terrorists, it's okay. Putting aside whether or not that number is correct (I'm guessing it's far more), it seems it's not important if the act is illegal or immoral, it's how many times it's done. That's not just wrong, it's sad.

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  11. Jason

    VON BISMARK, Vienna you are a complete nimrod. The kind of torture that we try to prosecute other countries for are ones that can cause death (cutting limbs, rape, electrocution to point they stop breathing. Water boarding is no more than a trick to make you feel uncomfortable.

    Also how would there be an exact number that you could put on how many lives were saved. He is talking about lives being saved and the kind of targets that they would have hit. How about this you leftist punks that are so much against for not getting good info out of terrorists. Why don't you all go to the same place and let them fly a plan into you all. I would rather see people live and a Talibanian suffer to water boarding. I guess you boneheads like being unsafe.

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  12. Candy West Virginia

    We already know cheyney and the CIA are liars cause they lied to us about Iraq having WMD's. And now they are trying to accuse Nancy of lying too, I guess it takes one to know one huh?? BTW 911 happened on bush and cheyney's watch, how did they keep America safe?

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  13. Andrew, Pa

    Why don't you all stop the back and forth bickering that has gotten this country into the mess into the mess it's in already? The Dems hate the Reps and vice versa! Who cares? This country is a mess because no one in government wants to look out for the people who elected them. What's done is done. Give it a rest already and move on. prosecuting this one or that one isn't change anything. We need to focus on getting this country back on it's feet and the only way to accomplish that is by putting aside the partisan nonsense and working together. You may not like the folks in office now but that's who we have to work with. Enough already.

    May 29, 2009 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  14. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA

    @ Dont blame me @ TangledThorns @ Randall, Georgia & the rest of you right wing nut jobs

    Since most of you don't even read these articles, let me paste what it said, short and brief for you idiots:

    CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano, in a written statement, said the two documents Cheney requested are the subject of two pending lawsuits seeking the release of documents related to the interrogation program, and cannot be declassified.

    What part of that don't you understand?!?!

    May 29, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  15. Amazed

    The Aflac duck lied!

    Political spin and talking points. Thats what you get from the libs.

    May 29, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  16. Get Real!!

    If these documents prove that Mr. Cheney lied, Obama would have declassified them in a New York minute!

    May 29, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  17. Tunstall

    Dick Cheney your methods are old school white man methods that worked to keep people of color down..... the problem for you now is that through it all, people of color can read and write now. The web you are trying to weave has entangled you. If you were warm and happy in your secret bunker, you should have kept your big mouth shut "like Bush" ha, ha

    May 29, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  18. Michael in Ventura,CA

    Keep on ramblin Cheney-- The more you talk, the better we Dems look!

    May 29, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  19. FORMER republican, NEVER again!

    Polar Bears Against Palen – he can't have a heart attack, he has an artificial heart. How fitting huh?

    May 29, 2009 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  20. John

    CHENEY SHOULD BE IN JAIL.

    Weapons are Supplied to Terrorists by Countries like Russia and China. Most of the Guantanamo Detainees are citizens of Countries which are in poverty. These countries can’t even manufacture a paper clip, leave aside sophisticated weapons. Weapons are not only being supplied to Al Quida, weapons are also supplied to Somalia Pirates.

    So my questions are:
    1.....Is our national security more endangered by Russia and China who supply these weapons or from these Poverty driven Countries?
    2.....What have we done or what are we doing in terms of stopping arms supply to terrorists?
    3.....Information can be obtained from terrorists without torture and inflicting pain. Medical science has drugs that can be safely administered to elicit truth. Why is it necessary to Torture?
    4.....Very few of the Guantanamo Detainees were arrested from inside the US. They were captured from Iraq, Afghanistan or other places. Terrorist attacks in US happen from inside the US. We need a better homeland security rather than going after terrorist all over the world. We need to prevent infiltration. What did the Bush Administration do to prevent infiltration?

    May 29, 2009 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  21. Randi L.

    Let's waterboard Cheney to get the truth out of him. He shouldn't object, since he says the method isn't torture and is highly successful. Put this on pay-per-view and we could retire the national debt.

    May 29, 2009 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  22. greg

    Here we have a boob of a liberal hack carrying Obama water bucket
    Senator have your hero the perz show us the documents

    May 29, 2009 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  23. Steve, New York City

    Yeah – Senator Levin – go get him!!!
    It grieves me that I still have to see Cheney's putrid face in the news
    so often. Thank goodness this loud-mouthed sadist is no longer in a position to dictate US policy.

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  24. Jim, Burlington NC

    It's always been easy to tell when Dick Cheney is lying, his lips are moving...

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  25. Jason

    Perhaps he was just 'misled'

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
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