May 29th, 2009
02:26 PM ET
6 years ago

Levin: Memos don't show what Cheney says they do

Democratic Sen. Carl Levin is challenging former Vice President Cheney's recent claims about the effectiveness of the Bush administration's use of harsh interrorgation techniques.
Democratic Sen. Carl Levin is challenging former Vice President Cheney's recent claims about the effectiveness of the Bush administration's use of harsh interrorgation techniques.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, says former Vice President Dick Cheney's claims - that classified CIA memos show enhanced interrogation techniques like waterboarding worked - are wrong.

Levin, speaking at the Foreign Policy Association's annual dinner on Wednesday, said an investigation by his committee into detainee abuse charges over the use of the techniques - now deemed torture by the Obama administration - "gives the lie to Mr. Cheney's claims."

The Michigan Democrat told the crowd that the two CIA documents that Cheney wants released "say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of abusive techniques."

"I hope that the documents are declassified, so that people can judge for themselves what is fact, and what is fiction," he added.

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  1. Ray Lawson from Danville, VA

    Are we supposed to believe Carl Levin? Release the documents and we will decide for ourselves? The president can do that with the stroke of a pen.

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  2. KevinfromtheNorthsideofChicago

    I hope Cheney, Bush, Rove, Limbaugh, Newt and all the other Republicans BURN IN HELL!!! or have someone to a massive beatdown on them - NOW I WOULD PAY MONEY TO SEE THAT!!!

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  3. Obama Victim

    Why isn't Levin calling for the release of the memos?

    If you call someone a liar – wouldn't you want to have the proof to support your claim?

    Why won't Obama release the memo? He has executive authority just like he did with other Bush memos.

    Why won't Obama release the memos?????????

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  4. Idiot_Pelosi

    First, I trust Cheney more than Levin.

    Second, let's start with this root factor: I don't care if we totured these thugs. They are not eligible for any rights. They intentionally killed innoncent people (including children) and are proud of it, so I would have strung them up by their "you know what".

    Third, if Obummer wants to change the policy (which he has done), then it is right, so move on. I think OBUMMER is being soft and weak, but I will say it is within his right to change the policy, but to sit there and criticize the former administration is childish. I can't wait for future administrations to publically go after OBUMMER and his HUGE SPENDING and DEFICIT plans.

    You like OBUMMER, FINE. YOU PAY HIS TAXES because I'm not.

    I have devoted myself to be like a democrat, cheat on my taxes.

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  5. Nik Green

    Cheney has already proved himself a liar. He lied to the 9/11 Commission regarding his whereabouts on the morning of 9/11, when he claimed that he did not arrive at the Presidential Emergency Operation Center (PEOC) until around 10 am, but reliable witnesses, under oath, saw him there directing proceedings shortly after 9 am. Its hardly surprising that Cheney refused to testify to the Commission under oath, because he knew that he could have perjured himself. The question is, why did he have to lie, and what material did he not want to have to tell?

    May 29, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  6. Paul-CIA

    When will the American people learn that there was and there is no al-Qaeda. This was the nick name given by the CIA to the foreigners who fought in Afghanistan against the Soviets.
    We need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  7. sick and tired

    @Robin

    Your comment about the documents and President Obama's birth certificate are hilarious. Maybey the goverment should check your documents to see if you should be here, idiot.

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  8. LibertyQueen

    Release the memos and let's continue to expose Cheney for the liar, traitor and war criminal he is.

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  9. JJ in NY

    Carl Levin ?????????????????????????????????????

    I'd believe billy clinton before I'd listen to anything Levin had to say .

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  10. WYO.

    It is quite obvious that CNN only will take comments from the far left.

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  11. Maryann Rose

    For those of you blaming Obama for not releasing the memos:

    Did you not read the whole article?

    "CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano, in a written statement, said the two documents Cheney requested are the subject of two pending lawsuits seeking the release of documents related to the interrogation program, and cannot be declassified."

    Unless you want to change the way our legal system works, you'll have to wait for the memos.

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  12. Anne

    "CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano, in a written statement, said the two documents Cheney requested are the subject of two pending lawsuits seeking the release of documents related to the interrogation program, and cannot be declassified."

    Read the story before you comment. The CIA said the documents cannot be declassified, not Levin or Obama or anyone else.

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  13. didi

    bring him to justice...

    May 29, 2009 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  14. JVS

    I still cannot believe evil Dick Cheney isn't in a federal supermax prison by now. evil Dick Cheney is a war criminal who conspired to commit torture & rape of POW's. Lock him up now!

    May 29, 2009 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  15. dominican mama 4 Obama

    @Robin May 29th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

    Easy way to solve this…

    Show the documents. Release them all.

    Robin,sweetie, I see you are off your meds again. Ever think that it may not be in the interest of, oh, I don't know, national security to release ALL documents?

    And about that birth certificate: you think your party would've let that one go, and allow him to become president? Think.

    May 29, 2009 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  16. Sniffit

    There's an 800 lb. red herring in the room. It doesn't matter if the documents contain information or claims that torture "worked." NOTHING could be more unamerican than torture. It is a crime against humanity, a crime against our laws, a crime against international law and, for all you drooling fundies out there, a crime against God. It represents a complete abandonment of our national identity and all that defines us as a society. The ends don't justify the means here. Why? Because, whether it works or not, torturing people means we're not America any more and have lost all right to call ourselves such.

    May 29, 2009 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  17. john

    Carl Levin and Dick Cheney are real American hero's and would never lie.

    May 29, 2009 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  18. Jackie

    Ok everyone, I say bring it on...bring it ALL on. You may get what you wish for.

    May 29, 2009 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  19. Tony

    People like cheney should be boiled in hot oil, His companys made billions of dollars with the Irak war and the weapons of mass destruction lies, The death of thousands young Americans in Irak should be more than enough to send Cheney to jail for the rest of his dirty life, him and George Bush lie to the American people when they claim Irak had weapons of mass destruction,Thats one of the reasons why Powell resign.

    May 29, 2009 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  20. Carole

    Get out?! No way?! Cheney lied about something? This is a newsflash. I guess General Petreus, General Powell and Senator McCain who is opposed to torture did not know what they were talking about.

    May 29, 2009 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  21. Educated, Thus A Democrat

    Here's a question for you...who is dumber/more ignorant?

    Dick Cheney for KNOWING that CIA documents don't vindicate his lies of saved lives from torture?

    OR

    Liz Cheney for knowing as much as we know about classified CIA papers and still going on national TV embarrassing herself by taking up her dad's talking points?

    May 29, 2009 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  22. barry in las vegas

    "Now deemed torture." Who deemd it torture, CNN, the MSM. I wish you would start reporting instead of editorializing. This, and the idiot hosts you have on air, is the reason CNN keeps droping in the ratings and the New York Times continues to have 1250 subscriptions discontinued every month. We want the news not your opinion.

    And we should believe Carl Levin? Not hardly.

    May 29, 2009 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  23. David

    I wish we could take all of the politicians and put them on an island far, far away.

    May 29, 2009 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  24. Linda

    To Polar Bears Against Palen: You are obviously not a nice person to wish something so tragic on anyone. I suppose you love the fabulous O in the White House now. That's good because you're gonna be paying for him long after he's gone....

    May 29, 2009 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  25. Gerald

    This is a non story , the real story is your tax dollars bailing out GM and Levin not doing his job. The torture claims are all BS and all of you know it. The proof is all of you would not care if the prisoners sqealed and then were dead in Iraq , stop the crying over spilled water and start watching BHO methodically ruining the USA.

    May 29, 2009 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
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