May 29th, 2009
02:26 PM ET
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Levin: Memos don't show what Cheney says they do

Democratic Sen. Carl Levin is challenging former Vice President Cheney's recent claims about the effectiveness of the Bush administration's use of harsh interrorgation techniques.
Democratic Sen. Carl Levin is challenging former Vice President Cheney's recent claims about the effectiveness of the Bush administration's use of harsh interrorgation techniques.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, says former Vice President Dick Cheney's claims - that classified CIA memos show enhanced interrogation techniques like waterboarding worked - are wrong.

Levin, speaking at the Foreign Policy Association's annual dinner on Wednesday, said an investigation by his committee into detainee abuse charges over the use of the techniques - now deemed torture by the Obama administration - "gives the lie to Mr. Cheney's claims."

The Michigan Democrat told the crowd that the two CIA documents that Cheney wants released "say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of abusive techniques."

"I hope that the documents are declassified, so that people can judge for themselves what is fact, and what is fiction," he added.

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  1. Ruth

    Cheney lied? Hmmm ... let's see, does a bear do it in the woods?

    May 29, 2009 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  2. Cal

    Obama could release all the documents and hasn't. Cheney and Obama are distant cousins and apparently best friends. Obama has followed all the Bush doctrines so far. If Cheney is lying why is Obama not releasing the memos unless Obama loves Cheney.

    May 29, 2009 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  3. BJ

    Cheney lied? I'm SHOCKED...... NOT!!!!!!!!

    May 29, 2009 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  4. Lynn

    And we are surprised that a liar is lying?

    May 29, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  5. Josh M, Albany, NY

    In 2002, Cheney insisted that Iraq has WMDs, and that anyone who said differently was lying. In 2003, Cheney insisted that Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaida were co-conspirators in 9-11, and that anyone who said differently was lying. In 2006, Cheney (and Bush) insisted that we don't torture, and that anyone who said differently was lying. Now, in 2009, Cheney (and Bush) are insisting that we DID torture, but that it was justified because it helped keep the US safe. How many lies does it take to get to the center of the Bush Administration?

    May 29, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  6. dickster

    Has there ever been a more despicable politician than Dick Cheney? Oh yeah, I almost forgot Richard Nixon, hmmmm, maybe it's Cheney!!

    May 29, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  7. Dennis Watts

    What a shock that Dick Cheney would lie! Somebody who has devoted most of his life to government service. This is a case disproving the addage: that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It's good to know that America was in the
    best of hands for the last 30 years. Wars & depressions will always be with us, but people like Dick Cheney will only be with us for a short time.

    May 29, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  8. ron

    It never ceases to amaze me that so many people will continue to defend the terrorist action of the Bush/Cheney regime in Iraq. It is proven that there were no WMDs, therefore no reason to invade. Why do people continue to defend this illegal and immoral war. Why do you not want to protect future generations of American soldiers from spilling their blood for what amounts to a minimum of a huge mistake (faulty intelligence), worst case – a war for vengeance (Bush senior) and profit (Halliburton)?

    Why would you rather not admit being wrong than send your children off to their deaths? I understand why Bush and Cheney lie, they don’t to go to jail, but why do some American citizens that have nothing to lose other than a small amount of pride refuse admit the Iraq war was a mistake?

    May 29, 2009 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  9. John Boyes

    ANYONE who believes Cheney, is a fool themselves!
    Never across history has one fool done so much harm to the reputation of a country, nor destroyed the foundation of our consitutional laws like this idiot !
    Anything this moron says at this point should be taken with a bag of cow dung and put behind the barn to fester.
    Someone take this man hunting !

    May 29, 2009 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  10. Sniffit

    Cowards torture. If you're so afraid and that you would abandon our beliefs to save your cowardly hide, then you are no patriot...you are an opportunist and a liar and a traitor to all we hold dear. That robot in the picture up there is a coward.

    May 29, 2009 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  11. Rick in WPB,FL

    **Operation Crush Rush**
    Not that it could be toxic, but you could probibly catch a BAD DOPE BUZZ off it.

    May 29, 2009 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  12. Gary

    I think Cheney & Company should accept the fact that eventually the truth will come out. Every time I read about almost any of his comments, I'm reminded of Shakespeare's line "Methinks he doth protest too much"....

    May 29, 2009 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  13. vegage

    I would like to see the same republicans that were / are asking to investigate Nance Pelosi for lying, to come forward and also ask to investigate Dick Chaney for being lying to the American people.

    May 29, 2009 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  14. Frank, Las Vegas

    Cheney is only trying to avoid being tried for War Crimes. Let the trail begin! His story is that it worked so it's ok to break the law, similar to saying, yes I robbed the bank but I used the money for a good purpose. Doesn't make sense does it, nor does Cheney. He's guilty and he's just trying to get out of going to prison.

    May 29, 2009 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  15. TM in CO

    To Pierce Changstein: You don't even have the facts right about 9/11 so your comment has no credibility. It wasn't only Americans that died at the World Trade Center. The Bush/Cheney administration is over. Don't you all think it is time to move forward instead of spewing venom and hate and causing the divide to grow even larger?

    May 29, 2009 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  16. Lucy

    This is a dangerous man. Lied about harsh interrogation. Lied about outing Valerie Plame. If it were anyone else, this would be a case of High Treason. Why should we wait for anyone else????

    May 29, 2009 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  17. Philippe Thomas

    The Obama administration needs to execute America's moral responsibility by prosecuting those engaged with violations of the Geneva Convention if we stand any chance of soliciting the international community's support for a resolution against North Korea's United Nation's nuclear agreement violations.

    I thought that Bush should have been impeached when they lied to the country about Sadam's WMD as an excuse to send some 5,000 americans to die so that cheney's company could be enriched with exclusive defense contracts. This should have prompted the launch of a full investigation with prosecutions at the highest level of that corrupt administration. As for Cheney, he should and hopefully will be thrown in jail for war crimes.

    May 29, 2009 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  18. Penny

    Quit blaming everything on the Bush Administration, and show us the memos!! Cheney is a strong man of integrity. Nothing anyone can say will change that fact.

    May 29, 2009 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  19. susie

    Levin should focus some of his attention on our state of Michigan. I will not vote for him next time.

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  20. WhatDoIKnow?

    If I told a lie that caused the death of thousands of people,what charges could I be brought up on? Why is Cheney,Bush,Rumsfeld,Rice,Powell,Rowe ,and the other numnuts who duped the nation into believing that bs that lead us to damm-near military disaster still walking the streets.Who in the hell is going to answer for the death and maiming of Americas best?.

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  21. Ben

    You know, if America blew up every other country we would be safe. I mean, how far are republicans willing to go? Is there no moral basis for your actions?

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  22. ThinkAboutIt

    Matt M: You've got it wrong; Obama isn't Cheney's "boy", George W. Bush was, is, and always will be Cheney's boy.

    Just who do you think was in charge the 8 years of the last Administration? It sure wasn't George; heck, it started before the election in 2000, when Cheney was tasked with picking a VP running mate for Bush and chose – himself!

    Bush was a puppet, only picked and used because he could bring the religious right to the voting booth (that poor group of saps needs to wake up and smell the coffee, too – the GOP, under Rove's leadership, has been using them as a pawn in their political game for years).

    President Obama is his own man, capable of independent thought, steadfast and real leadership, intelligence and integrity – no wonder the GOP is afraid of him!

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  23. Joe in NJ

    Let's see. Cheney said the documents prove that the interrogation techniques worked. The Obama administration won't de-classify the documents. Why? Is it because the documents prove that what Cheney is saying is true? Levin says that Cheney is lying but only after it's decided that the documents will remain classified. Why? Is it because Levin knows he can accuse Cheney of lying and Levin himself won't be made to look like a fool since he knows the documents won't be released?

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  24. JT

    Cheny's Torture Tour talking points will be taken into evidence. Liz Cheney will be forced to testify against her father. I would love to see exactly what Bush would stay when pitted against Cheney.

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  25. New Yorker

    Steve M Killeen, TX says he wouldn't believe Cheney if he told him the sky is blue, and that sums up the liberal mind. They just refuse to believe the truth.

    May 29, 2009 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
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