CNN

This guy gives me a headache - JOTO!

How strange! Why it is either you are 100% for gay marriage or you are THE HATER.
I have a news for you: most of people could not care less one way or another, especially now.

Let them marry. Let them suffer like the rest of us!

Too bad, Frank. More people are against gay marriage than for it, and this president only cares about being liked, not about what's right.

Ironically, he happens to be doing what's right in this one case, in my opinion. But that's not why he did it.

Well, of course he would. If Frank is so concerned about this then he should sponsor a bill in the House to repeal DOMA. He knows the votes aren't there, so why not blast Obama. It plays to his audience.

That's so cute.....the gays want to be like Normal People!!!!

"Obama ran on support of gay rights..." Yes, he did. And if civil unions and rights to your partners isn't rights enough for you, then I just don't know what to tell you. Just because the word "marriage" isn't being used you don't have equal rights? Come on! A majority of people just don't agree with this type of lifestyle and since this is a democracy here in the good ole US of A, well, the people have spoken. Period.

A now the hypocritic liberals will make excuses for Obama, after eight years of having crucified Bush for opposing gay marriage. Because if Obama says the same thing, it's okay?

to russell who said, "...it should be the end of the story and it 's not what most normal people..."
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that is one of the most ignorant statements i have ever heard. i'm gay and i consider myself very normal. it's so funny how people like you who have never been denied any of their rights are so quick to tell others who have had theirs denied to be quiet and accept the status quo.

Hey Barney – Gay marriage is a threat to national security. It's one of the reasons the muslim extremists want to destroy the U.S.; before it spreads.

When Obama was running for office he said he believed marriage is between a man and a woman. He went on to say that gay couples should still share benefits, and to have certain rights like to visit each other in the hospital when ill. Frank just hasn't been paying attention.

It is time for the government to distance herself from gay troubles in order to protect the moral integrity of our future generation!

Just make civil unions legally equal to marriage, so that gays receive the same civil rights.

54% of the country will be happy that the meaningless definition of "Marriage" is preserved.

The gay community can receive the rights they deserve.

Its that simple, gay or straight there's no reason to make it any more complicated than that.

Hawaii gal , How can you compare Gay rights withn civil rights ? People can't help what color they are . They are born that way . Which makes it wrong to discriminate because of their color . Being Gay was a choice you made earlier on or later in your life . Which i don't have a problem with . I happen to think Gay people should have equal rights . But don't compare it with the civil rights struggle in the 60's because i haven't seen any signs that says gay people over here and straight people over there .

Hang in there President Obama for your views on gay marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman and nothing else!!!

The Democratic vote is nice, but not much credibility here.
Barney Frank needs to focus on what the American people have been begging for for years.
Affordable healthcare and help to keep the middle class from completely disappering.
All of the gay stuff should be put on the back burner until some real legislation for the masses can be completed.

Oh and has anybody got any information about the Senate race in Minnesota.
Is Al Franken going to be seated just in time to run for re election or is the lame media going to report on this joke of an election in Minnesota.

Please stop comparing the Gay Rights Activists to those who fought for Civil Rights. I cringe every time i hear the comparison, just as I cringe whenever I hear a Holocaust comparison. There is no comparison, pls argue your cause based on its own merit...you lose credibility and you're out of your league.

Get this, Barney, you helped elect a man who doesn't have a true position on anything. He thinks this way everybody will adore him. You elected a man who cannot lead, an empty suit, just like we told you before the election.

It was NOT Obama's Decision. It was the Justice Department;s that is still rotten to the core from the days of Ashcroft and Gonzales, the criminals of the Bush Administration.

Slamming President Obama. What else is new? Mr. President, I am proud to have a leader such as yourself representing our great country. To the Senators, I plan on running for an office when I am 33 years old. It's time to enter the game.

i hope obama sticks to his word, but he is a democrat and they will do anything. same sex marrage is a joke, the next step will be marrying animals. god help us and our country.

while I understand why Mr. Frank would care about this issue, why is that the MAJORITY of Americans are NOT gay or lesbian, and the minority that are should stay just that. Their Sexual Orientation, as it were, is not cause for special considerations under the laws. The laws are clear marriage is a woman and a man and should stay that way. This country's morales have degraded far enough

No gay right support no vivial rights support seems fair to me as a gay white man.

Backdoor Barney, the man is an idiot. His record speaks for itself. Why is he still in office? He cost us Billions did'nt he?

The momentum can't be stopped. Eventually we'll have gay couples walking hand in hand even in places like Kentucky and Tennessee. Bumps on the road like this are to be expected.

Our county is coming apart at the seams, and this is what you're squandering your time obsessing about, Mr. Frank? Maybe it's time you stepped down.

I need Barney Franks to please do your job in congress. If you voted for Obama because you only had agenda because of your sexuality
that was wrong. I understand everyone wants equal rights but I need a job and healthcare and that is the most important to me right now . I want the president to keep this nation safe, he has only be in office
5 months and everyday all I here is he upsetting gays and he is making Democrats mad give me a break. I was laid off and Barney Franks that is your job in congress to help the president get us back
to work.

Not all Democrats or Obama supporters support gay marriage. Most Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and Arabs in America share this in common with so-called "conservatives."

i really wonder how things would be if homo marriages were allowed, while forbidding non-homo marriages...everywhere on this Earth... pretty scary huh?

The most basic nature laws would be jeopardized.. jeez! I keep on sayin' it: being gay is wrong, wrong, wrong..i don't care how you see it. Fays fight for their rights; let's say they get it; then what else? Come on people! We've got better issues to worry about.

Lee June 17th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

Fox is the only station with REPORTER. The other stations parrot what theObama administration wants them to say.

There are none so blind as those who cannot see..

Civil unions are a perfectly good compromise. Even though I personally find homosexuality disgusting and abnormal, no one should be kept from seeing a loved one dying in the hospital, or from enjoying some basic insurance benefits. That being said, the argument that they are born that way is absolutely inept. I read the so-called medical study supporting such a claim, and it was bought and paid for by gay advocacy, included more possibles and maybes than a politician's speech, and was simply a very blunt tool for assuaging families' guilt over having a homosexual in their family. It was junk medicine/science at its worst. Sorry moms and pops out there...It is your fault.

Can anyone get Barney to say suffering succotash 3 on national TV?

Rep Frank has failed badly as chair of the House Financial Services Committee. He should either pay more attention to his job or get off it for a better rep to do the job.

I didn't catch the inappropriate wording Bernard took exception to. Since homosexuality is his most authoritative subject, I would expect him to correct his leader and his supposed firm turn-around on the subject. Perhaps Obama was just confusing gay marriage with his gay health care issues.

It's the economy stupid....

Hate Gays June 17th, 2009 12:47 pm ET

I'm sick of gays always crying about something. They make me sick.
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I'm not holding up the banner for gay marriage myself, but you really shouldn't hate anybody.

why do we have to spend valuable time and resources on a 'defense of marriage' act? I think we have bigger fish to fry

Frank is right. I don't see how gay marriage is in any way equal to incest. Looks like we may have some Bush-era holdovers in the Obama administration. Of course, Obama is not making things much easier by sitting on the fence on things such as the ridiculous firings of valuable military staff just because they happen to be gay (under Don't Ask Don't Tell). At the same time the US military is sending sick and stressed out service members on multiple tours of duty.

If Mr. Frank spent as much time on the country's business as he does gay issues we as a country would be in a lot better shape. I

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be fired now! They did not do their jobs, neither did Geithner and guess who is supposed to be over seeing the NEW Oversight committee? These same people that should have been fired. Obama fires the CEO of GM and the inspector that was never notified by law 30 days ahead of time. He got fired because he was investigating one of Obama's friends. We want honesty, not the same old crap.

The dems just took out an amendment to stop sending money to Accorn that is being investegated. Where is the people that are supposed to look out for us? Dem or Rep. they are all crooks. We need to throw all these people out.

@ Hate Gays – I think there is a church in Topeka run by Fred Phelps that would love to have you hold up a sign somewhere. I can't believe the hate on this blog.

Don't we have bigger things to worry about? We are a country in recession and it seems we can't get a good grasp to turn it around. We have individuals defrauding people out of their life savings, we have big companies closing their doors leaving millions without jobs to feed their families. Crime is going up because of the jobless, and we are still debating this issue. Obama should stop flying around and using so much gas that the taxpayers are paying for and sit in his office and figure it all out. This president is just for "Show" and nothing more.

The President and Vice President made it clear during the campaign and during the debate that they believe marriage is between one man and one woman. I believe no further clarification is necessary. They have no time to deal with gay right issue. Sorry Frank nice try.

"Religions is ridiculous and has caused more damage than good…. "

This comment says an awful lot about you.

The idea that "religions is ridiculous" is absurd. Which religion? All of them? How about Humanism? Atheism? If we throw out all religion, what are we left with? Everyone believes in something religiously even if its something as foolish as themselves.

Look at California – Obama carried it with a ton of votes, and still the proposition reversing gay marriage passed with a ton of votes. African- and Hispanic-American voters are not pro-gay. Also, even though the Democratic Party with their teachers' union bosses have tried to kill charter schools for years, they are thriving because African and Hispanic Americans support them.

Moral: The extreme left wing of the Democratic Party is splitting into a million little pieces. Couldn't happen to a nicer crowd.

In fact most Americans are liberal in thier social issues…
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No we're not. We are liberal from the standpoint that we feel that everyone should have an opportunity for success, and that we have a special repsonsibilty for children, the sick, the elderly, and the helpless. A lot of people mistake liberal for a belief in anything goes. It's not the same thing. Ironically, gays and lesbians totally tick off minorities when they compare themselves to them, because any minority can tell its not the same. Plus, most minorities are realy opposed to the word "marriage" being attached to gay, but we just don't care what you do on your time.

DOMA was the GOP's payback to the evanglicals for their support of the rethuglicants. It should be repealed and sent to the ever growing trash heap of failed religious agendas enacted on behalf of the militant religious right by the GOP....

As I see the current administration adopting new regulations based on positioning itself for 2012 elections and to get the support of different groups of power I confirm that Obama and the goup close to him that brought him to power are typical politicians who are thirsty for power. that is the major reason that moves them access to power their political career comes first and everything else including values and principles comes second. Obama has again and again showed that to be his pattern and many Americans are blind and were influeced by a bias Media including the one we are in C.N.N

This is what happens when a politicians trys to play both sides of an issue. How can you be for gay rights and against them at the same time? Quite a balancing act. I think this administration is trying to please everyone – and pleasing no one. I think the honeymoon is close to being over. Oh for the days of a politician actually believing in something besides getting elected.

Yes, Dutch/Bad Newz, VA, do call it anything but marriage! Marriage as an institution has failed badly and straight people are adulterous, divorcing fools. Choose a more dignified term for gay unions, please.

"Many gay activists have called on Frank and other gay members of Congress..."

So, they've called on Barney Frank and half of the Republicans? Gay Republican Congressmen are anti-gay. It won't do them any good.

I'm with Bob on this one!!!! And why do we have to refer to Barny Franks as being 'openly gay'??? Following that logic, isn't the POTUS 'openly heterosexual"? And remember, it was once also "traditional" for women not to be allowed to vote. If we can all get past the rhetoric, this is simply an issue of a contract (i.e. a state-issued marriage license). Heterosexual couples can't be legally married without a state-issued license (unless you're in one of those still-backwards states that recognizes common law marriages) , so why are we denying the same license to others simply based on their sexual orientation???

News June 17th, 2009 12:56 pm ET

I am looking for news on CNN of the firing of Inspector General Walpin by Obama. He fired the Inspector General eventhough there is a law that is supposed to give 30 day notice and a valid reason to congress before a firing of Inspector Generals. This is news.
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I am with you, where is the reporting? The real news is that Obama himself cosponsered that bill and then he broke his own law!!!!! However, media outside of the Wall Street Journal doesn't want to focus on any of the laws that Obama has broken.

"the people have spoken ,leave the word marriage alone , it ''s meant to be a union between a man and a woman , how come gays can't be satified with a civil union, we are giving you rights with benefits , be satisfied with that "

Humm- I recall that in the South before 1954, segragation in schools was also legal and was voted on my a majority of the people. Should we go back to that? "Spearate but Equal" never is.

Boy, it is getting awfully crowded under Obama's bus

"Choose. Our laws are FORBIDDEN by the First Amendment from having anything to do with supporting, favoring, ratifying or having anything to do with religion. "

You might want to re-read the First Amendment, my friend. It doesn't say what you think it says.

I don't want gay marriage because the gays would then rub all our noses in it by public kissing and fondling each other, which I do not think is right in front of children. I also don't think children should be taught that it is 'an acceptable lifestyle'. What they do behind closed doors is fine. But keep this 'acceptable lifestyle' out of public, thanks.
Btw I'm a proud Democrat but I feel strongly about this issue. I think the President is right on this topic and keeping his campaign promise to defend the sanctity of marriage as between a man and a woman.

What is wrong with the memo? The question to be answered is: If a state legalizes incestuous marriages, do all the other states have to recognize them? A similar question: If a state legalizes multiple spouse marriage, do all the other states have to recognize them? And apply the same questions to civil unions.

He promised "change" not "honesty"
Dishonesty is the one hting that will never change at the White House.
.. or at CNN for that matter

I do not have a problem with Gays having their rights and fighting for them, but please..please..stop equating your fight to that of what blacks had to go through..Gays have never been enslaved for over 200 years and hung becasue of the color of your skin!

Chris June 17th, 2009 12:54 pm ET

When folks start to view the Bible as a good read and not take it serious we will all be a whole lot better off!!

AMEN to that!

Aunt Mary,
"I'm a Christian"
Uhm, no you're not, my dear. I hope and pray that someday you will be, though.
Being a Christian isn't about some denomination or group of men "defining" how you should live. It is accepting the Bible as God's infallible word and living by it, no matter how "inconvenient" it may be for you.
Please, my dear, until you can see this, call yourself something else.

I'm straight, but we all have to ask ourselves this: Do you choose who turns you on? Or can you merely acknowledge it as a spectator to the reaction?

Gay marriage should never be put to a vote because a minority, by definition, cannot win. What if Lincoln had put slavery to a vote? The fact that they pass laws about it is plain unAmerican.

It's usually the Bible-thumpers who are most unChristian about this.

Article IV of the Constitution, does require every State to recognize the laws of every other. Mr. Obama did swear to uphold that same Constitution.
What are we going to do about those Mormons wanting multiple young wives? Why would that be less legal than the practice that spread AIDS around the world?

Neel T.

Wow..if your writing represents the new intellectual non-religious mind...then we are all in big trouble!

The justice dept has a responsibility to uphold the law and the Defense of Marriage Act is the law – thank goodness.

Patricia June 17th, 2009 11:54 am ET

How can you say you're a Christian and support same sex marriages? God forbid!

Yeah...who would Jesus hate?

To: James M. Holmes

Latest Gallup Poll:

40% Americans consider themselves Conservative
21% Americans consider themselves Liberal

Next time up, bring some facts and truth with you.

That's right Mixner, because democracy is all about buying candidates

"How will they ever take us seriously if we keep forking out money while they harm us?"

" I am looking for news on CNN of the firing of Inspector General Walpin by Obama. He fired the Inspector General eventhough there is a law that is supposed to give 30 day notice and a valid reason to congress before a firing of Inspector Generals. This is news."

Who gives flip about what barney Frank says. CNN needs to divorce itself from this whole gay story and quit pandering to the gays by giving them headlines. Its an immoral, unnatural, against science, perverted act.

You know what? I'm really sick of the gay and lesbian special interest. They have been ranting and raving since Feb. 21, and no, no one really cares what they want. I'm all for everyone having civil and legal rights, because there really should be a separation of church and state. But that's as far as I go. This world has been here since time immemorial, and in all historical accounts I have read I don't think I've seen a civilization, even the most hedonistic ones, that had gay marriages. This is even where homosexuality was widely accepted. I guess since a black man won for President they figure that now even they have a chance of getting what they want.

You cannot compare being Black to being gay. There is no comparison. You do not have a choice of what color you are born, but you do have a choice of whether or not you are gay.

majesty

"these defectives people!"???

these what!?

Mr. Frank should just go away. He is part of the problem.

It is so ironic to hear liberals chastise conversatives for being intolerant and full of hate, yet so many of the liberal comments on this post do nothing but spew hate. I agree with a few of the more rational comments that have pointed out that: 1. Every time it comes to a vote, the voters CHOOSE (thought you libs were all about choice!) to define marriage as between one man and one woman; and 2. Your precious Obama ran on the platform that marriage should remain between one man and one woman... You people need to stop your bellyaching and your hate mongering and accept the will of the people... period!

Finally the Obama administration gets something right!
Marriage between one man and one woman has been the accepted form and is really the only form of a true marriage. All others are just a denigration of the state of marriage.
-Kevin

Forget the Bible verses, forget the morality of whether gay marriage is right or wrong. look at it as a group of people wanting something --money, that's what it really comes down to. Make gay marriage legal and then they get the social security benefits as well as health benefits as well as inheritance benefits. It's the benefits they are after as well as a way to parade their lack of morality and their dirty lifestyle in front of the rest of the world

I am neither a Neocon or Jesus Freak...and I don't give a rip about gay marriage. I think it kind of ironic that those who claim to be so tolerent...the Gay community ....are anything but. As long as they continue to behave the way they do, irrational hate of anyone who has a differing point of view. I will continue to oppose gay marriage.

I do think it is sad that guys like Barney Frank find their way into positions of power they don't deserve. Frank is not competent to be in the position he holds. Look at his track record both personal and political. Sad.

The DOJ thing is pretty strange, and will probably get modified, but all I can say is how nice it is that Dems aren't all on the same page, parroting the same opinions, baaing like conservatives. Maybe we'll get something done finally .. .

i believe that the wording that compares same-sex (though it would be more appropriate to call in 'same-gender') marriage to incest was clumsy, and poorly chosen. mr. frank understands that the govt. must uphold current law, even if the president is working to change the law.

I believe marriage is between a man and woman for the purpose of pro-creation. Can someone tell me from a gay marriage perspective, what do children of gay marriage tell them when they ask where do babies come from and how.

I know of a lesbian couple trying to have children through IVF and not having any luck, isn't that saying something. When a hetereosexual couple cannot conceive due to a number of reason that is different when two women cannot conceive is because that isn't the way or how life is to begin.

Sniffit June 17th, 2009 12:14 pm ET

@ Patricia, who asked "where does the U.S. think they're stand with God right now?"Gimme a second to consult the First Amendment. Ah yes, here we are: God takes a back seat to our secular laws
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So Sniffit, in your words God take a back seat? Are you seriously wondering why we are in the mess we are in? American Christians are Christians first but we are also American, just like you. You don't want Christians forcing their beliefs down your throat right? We don't want your 'gay marriage" beliefs forced down ours! The is a law higher than the constitution, it just happens to be the law of God!

The people have spoken and they should be overruled. This is a matter of individual liberty to be protected from the tyranny of the majority. A marriage between any two consenting adults is legitimate, regardless of whether it is a traditional and universally recognized form of marriage.

Good for Barney Frank.

The world is really coming to an end.No values,morals or common sense.Gay fighting to get married.The economy is ruins..thanks to Cheney/Bush..Isn't that more important than all of these whining.This really the end time.May the Lord forgive us all.

Barney Frank has made a mistake. Presumably, being a liberal democrat, he supports most of Obama's ideas for getting the economy back on track and reforming health care in this country. By putting political pressure on Obama to take a stand on this fringe issue, he is enabling Republican attempts to derail everything that the President wants to do. Same-sex marriage is only an issue to those people whom it directly effects, which is a relatively small percentage of the country. The bigger issues, such as the recession and health care costs, effect every single American, be they single, married, gay or straight. Frank needs to get his priorities straight– no pun intended.

Come on CNN!! What the word 'BLASTS' means? It looks like you are intentionaly intensifying politicians' words in order to have people fighting against other people. Stop doing that!. Thx

Justice Dept is to uphold the law, not make the law. Ms Sotomayor wants to make the laws not uphold the law and that is why Obama wants her in the supreme court. Obama's choices of the nine persons as top persons over the congress and not the choice of the people. This makes him close to being a dictator. Per Obamas affrimative action is only for people the same hue of skin as them. and same religon back ground as them. See what is happening to the U.S.

I am so tried of hearing about guys. Obama said a marriage is between a man and a woman so what part don't you gays nuts understand. Please stop shoving your guys rights down my throat. You choiced to be gay not me so why do I have to keep pointing your gay promblem. As a black person, I didn't have a chose to come to American so that is the different. My civil rights were infrige on me, but your was by choice. So please stop all this noise about your civil rights.

Never thought I'd say this... way to go Obama. These select few can whine and gripe all they want. Been the same situation for THOUSANDS of years. Who are we to change it. Go away Barney, you sounds like a 7 year old. Who votes this dolt in year after year?!

my great uncle was gay and he vote for Bush because he was against gay married he was believe gays they should stay in clothed, he was undercover

It looks to me like we have a homophobic president. I have written him to tell him how disappointed I am in him. Does he care? I doubt it. We should have elected Hillary.

June 17th, 2009 12:57 pm ET
"the people have spoken ,leave the word marriage alone , it ''s meant to be a union between a man and a woman , how come gays can't be satified with a civil union, we are giving you rights with benefits , be satisfied with that "

Russell,

Are you married? If so, would you be willing to legally divorce your spouse and then refile under a civil union or domestic partnership in your state of residence? Ask yourself that question and you'll see why that's not acceptable to many of us.

It WAS inappropriate. Comparing homosexuality to incest is not acceptable. If it really was Mr. Obama's policy behind this brief, he may lose my support.

I know some white folks who hate white folks but I think they should have some states that except gay marriage and some that do not then those who want to get marriage and are gay and can go live a happy life that way everybody is happy and theres no fighting theres enough of that going on in the world today

Don't be going against your word and promises, Barack. Don't waffle. Don't act like a stuff shirt repug.

Barney Frank is a JOKE.

This idiot, similar to Pelosi, is an abosolute embarassment to the USA.

At least all the sanctimonious Democrats can now have clear vision that Obama will sell his first born down the river for a few votes and a carton of Marlboro reds... but they'll spin it some other way. Say what you want about Frank, at least he has some actual beliefs instead of just seeing which way the wind blows.

Here's a novel concept ... How about the Feds staying OUT of this?

Seriously folks ... this is an issue that should be decided at the state level by the voters of that state.

How hard is that?

As for the DOJ brief ... I wouldn't touch that thing with a 20 ft pole wearing insulated gloves!

I may be a hockey fan but even I haven't taken THAT many pucks to the head!

Barney is just playing politics. Change the law, don't beat up the people for enforcing the law.

To CNN: Since you clearly have the DOJ brief, why not post it on your site? Since most of your readers can speak and read English why not give us the original document and not just your commentary?

Obama must allow gays to marry.

This is the land of the free. A place where all have equal rights. To actively deny rights to some is despicable and Anti-American.

And the last thing I want to hear are the words Bible, Jesus, and Christianity. These things have nothing to do with America or gay rights... they are just barriers set up by people who want everyone to think like them. We must do something about separation of church and state... these religious folks need to learn that they are not here to convert America.

President Obama should stand behind his beliefs and ban gays to have the same entitlements as single and married couples.

Those who are gay choose to be gay by choice. Blaming God for your sexual orientation is just another way of trying to justify this sin.

the people spoke on slavery, too, and wanted to keep it. The people don't always agree with what the Constitution protects, which is why it's there and why we supposedly operate under its mandates.

Marcus, that is the perfect response. I doubt that many of the people here bothered to read that decision. I also doubt that many of the people here would understand what it meant anyway. When someone brings logic to a discussion there are always those who will just yell their views louder in the belief that it will make their point stronger.

I'm waiting and hoping that someday I will have the full legal rights to marry my partner and share the same benefits as others.

Gay's right to Marriage is inevitable. Give it some time, your day will come.

More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. That, that my friends, is true perversion.

-Harvey Milk

Why do people get upset with Barney Frank defending gay causes? Do they get upset with Keith Ellison for defending Muslim causes or with any number of Republicans for defending religious causes? Do they get upset with women Senators defending the interests of women or the black congressional caucus for defending African Americans? There is a bigoted double standard when Barney defends gays against bigotry by bigots.

Barney Frank, please go back to saying how well Freddie and Fannie are doing and how they dont need more oversight. You suck. You were the man that oversaw this disaster as chairman of the committee in 2007-present and youre worrying about whether its called a marriage or a civil union? Im all for gay rights, but as far as I can tell a civil union is the same thing as a marriage but with a different title. You are a loser.

So by the logic of the gay and lesbian community, polygamy should be legal as well correct? If a man loves two women, the women love the man and all are able to support each other, why the hypocrisy?

to stacy:
separation of church in state is not protected by the constitution. it is a precedent.

Has anyone heard Dick Cheney speak in support or against Obama's Defense of Marriage Act, he won't. Cheney didn't speak for gays during his term because he's a low down coward but wants America to agree with him against Obama on defense. Just more proof Cheney is attempting to change his legacy by making arguments on the war mistakes he and Bush made. And where is Liz Cheney on this issue since she defends her father, why not defend her sister, cowards.

So we now have to pay for benefits for federal gay partners because Barney Franks got upset at Obama? Does nobody in this country know the meaning of only doing what you can afford to PAY FOR? Everyday there is some new something we can't afford being CHARGED to our Great-Grand kids accounts.

Mr. Obama, you are playing with fire with one of your strongest constituencies..... (que republicans to take stand and earn a constituency)..... individual rights..... this is a big big mistake.

Barney, Call him a hate monger! If it was a Conservative that did what Obama did you would be screaming bigot and hate monger. So, go ahead be intellectually honest... Call him a hate monger!

When is everyone going to get a clue? Obama is a hate filled bigot who despises gay people and will do nothing of significance to better their lives.

I wonder how open-minded in Barney is with polygamous marriages? Or is he just a self-serving bigot like most Democrats?

This article is Pro-Obama just like all the CNN articles. Obama is God to CNN.

It seems like the gay/lesbian community has two perfect spokesmen in Perez Hilton and Barney –they should be proud.

This whole thing just blows my mind. The whole gay lifestyle is just not normal. You are not born gay. The "parts" were not meant to go together that way. Some factor in the environment one grows up in contributes to someone being gay.

Barney just shut-up! You have no room to talk! Last i checked we are in the mess we are in because of you and your partner...

@ Steve (12:40 pm)

Your many references lose to this one:

- First Amendment to the United States Constitution (see specifically the Establishment Clause)

Barney Frank is the symbol of whats wrong with congress and the democratic party as a whole. Luckily the DNC has trended toward the more moderate Obama instead of hyper partisans like Barney Frank. I dont listen to anything the house of representitives says ever its full of clowns.

what if you awoke tomorrow to a world in which everybody has turned gay/lesbian, we would not reproduce, the human race would go extinct in about a hundred years, now do we still think being gay/lesbian is natural. if gays and lesbians feel to need to form an official bond, then sign a contract.,..........but leave marriage alone.

The one thing this president does is explain himself well, Mr. Frank. Which means stop adding or inventing words into what he clearly explains.

to fordy

i sleep very well at night.
we are not pushing a way of life on people.
keep spewing your hate.
you must get a life PLEASE

I do NOT want my tax dollars supporting deviant behaviors. I strongly oppose the efforts by a very vocal minority attempting to rationalize such deviant behavior as normal. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FORCE YOUR UNNATURAL PREFERENCES AS AN ACCEPTABLE, NORMAL, LIFESTYLE!!!!!

By the way, seperation of church and state is no in the constitution.
who started thet CRAP!!!

A large part of the problem is that people don't seem to understand that civil unions do not carry the same rights/privileges as civil marriage. Gay folks aren't looking to invade churches and temples and force priests, imams, and rabbis to marry them. They just want their marriage to have the same rights, such as shared insurance/benefits, and the ability to visit their spouse in the hospital. Religions don't convey those rights and privileges, the government does, and the government shouldn't view gay marriage any differently than it does atheist marriage.

Why does Barney Frank keep getting elected? Can't the state of Massachusetts find a better representative? He refuses to take any responsibility on the housing crisis and wastes tax payer time by whining about this crap.

I was a non-believer in then presidential candidate Obama on the rights of LGBTQ people and told my friends such time and time again. They would not believe me. "Oh," they said, " he will do much more than Hillary for us. Well, were is the bacon?

The only mistake I see is that Barney Frank is still head of the financial committee.

Who really cares, there are many more important issues to tackle

Obama's position is preciesely why I would not contribute to his campaign – he continues to hold typical African-American bible beater bigoted views and strongly advocates in separate and unequal. As to gay rights, BO and GWB hold essentially the exact same views. Even Cheney (gasp) is more tolerant of gays than BO.

I feel sorry for Sasha and Malia growing up in a household where the Obama's promote intolerance and inequality towards a specific minority.

Remember, god hates shrimp and eagles too.

@sifto77 June 17th, 2009 12:22 pm ET
You losing respect For President Obama....You never had any respect
for him ......Fox news namely Sean Hannity bash the President everyday with a racist tone
@Lee June 17th, 2009 12:16 pm ET
Fox is the only station with REPORTER. The other stations parrot what theObama administration wants them to say. Fox try to make right anything that Trash Sara Palin says.....John King of CNN is the Sean of CNN regarding President Obama .......in the begining it was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

I support gay marriage and I still think Frank is an obnoxious clown.

CNN, The verb "SLAMS" is a little melodramatic given Mr. Frank's quotes, wouldn't you agree. Leave the hysteria to British tabloids please.

In the beginning it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!!!!!

@Fair is fair, you do not like attorney's? I know a few, in my family....

@Hate Gays, you are homophopic, I thinke gays are the best, they are alot better than hetersexual people.. and they have a great sense of humor....

You guys are really funny, showing your true colors, gay bashing, and hating them like they are subhuman...

Go adopt a Gay or Lesbian and see they are real people tooo!!!!

LOL! Some of you NeoCons really do live in a world of your own don't you? Keep dreaming… haha…

I got news for you, most Americans are sick of the "NeoCon jesus freak" routine…. It was proven in Nov. 08!

In fact most Americans are liberal in thier social issues
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You couldn't be more DEAD WRONG. Most Americans – especially Hispanics and African-Americans are extremely religious and DO NOT AT ALL hold the same views as liberals like you, you MORON. They vote democrat because of economic issues only. Feel free to conduct a poll. The majority of Americans believe in the sanctity of marriage. You are very sadly mistaken.

Barney, go away! You broke the literal bank system, and the mortgage system. Looking for a new system that runs well, and needs a problem?
Pls vote him out!

Mr. Franks–get on with more important viable subjects. Gay rights is but one issue–not the main reason for existence of Congress and the US Government. The list is endless–so please get on to the big business of why you're in WASH,DC, and elected by your constituents of Massachusetts.

If you want to grandstand on Gay issues, why not seek Mr.Obama out privately and share your thoughts on the matter. Back to Business of the Nation please with all deliberate speed! Thank you!!

The state governments should not be issuing marriage licenses in the first place. They should be issuing civil union certificates. The churches are the ones who should make some kind of paper and ceremony for marriage because "marriage" (OPEN YOUR DICTIONARY) is for a man and a woman. I can't marry a tree or a lake or an armadillo for pete's sake.
bluecub

This whole issue is about the destruction of this country and all it stands for. If you can destroy the family unit then all is lost. The Homosexual movement is another step in the wrong direction. When our moral and values are gone so are we. Like it or not

I agree with the point of view that the people who actually penned the DOJ Brief are Bushie fanatics who haven't been expunged yet. Obama wouldn't permit such wording if he had advance knowledge.

Bush saturated the DOJ with his fanatical operatives, be patient, it will take a while to cleanse the department of the Right-Wing Republican stench.

It is clear that he is opposed to gay marriage. This isn't the issue. The issue is the wording of the brief. Relating gay unions to incest and unions where one party is underage is the isuue! That is NOT EXACTLY being a strong proponent of gay and lesbian rights that he DID claim to be.

"Reading your posts, I betcha God takes a back seat on a great many things in your life. "

What does that even mean? The rule of law is the rule of law. When it comes to the keystone document upon which our nation was built, we trash that at our own peril. What's truly bothersome about this is that most people don't seem to be realizing that the arguments opposing same-sex marriage here would open the door for their own persecution if allowed to stand. You would think that after November 4, 2008, the GOP and conservatives would recognize that it's entirely possible (and in fact happened) that one can go from power in the majority to an unpopular minority.

as far as I'm concerned marriage between two people is their own business and goverment needs to poke it's nose OUT! That's what I mean by smaller goverment.

lets be honest here, state rights should decide wether or not there should be civil union between same sex partners, people need to stop defining themselves soley on their sexuality though, to say they dont have marriage rights is perposterous, every one has the right to marry a boy has the right to marry a girl and a girl has the right to marry a boy regardless of their sexuality, its a government institution in the end and people need to get over their inability to control it, live your life the way you see fit according to your values because in the end your life is not validated by other peoples views and regulations but based soley on how happy you are with it.

Something wrong in the USA today if Cheney is more to the left on this issue than Obama.

If Obama does not make things right with the gay community before the next election, not only will I not vote for him but I will vote for his opponent. It is high time he stopped taking the gay community for granted.

Why is everyone so suprised BHO cannot keep all of his campaign promises. He told all of you what you wanted to ehar, jsut to get your vote. He will now support policy just to get re-elected. He is no different from any other politician. He is the the "One". I wish he was, but we got fooled again!

"Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss" – P Townsend

There is no place for bigotry in this country. If you don't believe in equal rights for ALL Americans, you may as well resign your own.

Obama has been a collossal disappointment on this issue.

@ Fair is Fair -

excellent comment. The majority is tired of hearing little squeakers like Barney, the ACLU, ACORN, and the rest of the social deviants....2010 Congress is going to have colon blow, and the lib crap will be no more.

I love all these people, so called Americans trying to tell others how
to live there lives.
These so called preachers and people judging others when Jesus
said Judge not less ye be judged..
They worry about others when there own lives arn't even together.
When Obama ran he said he would change the don't ask don't tell
and other important gay issues but has been dragging his feet.
When the mid terms come next year he'll find out what it means
to keep campaign promises.
I'm not even gay but I think if your a true Christian you should
leave judging on certain issues up to God

Obama has always said he's against gay marriage, but for civil unions – he's just being consistent.

Obama is not a liberal, people just need to understand that – he's a Centrist. He can't have a Culture War while he's trying to pass Healthcare reform – some things are more crucial at this very moment!

Gay Rights is a Civil Rights issue, but no one should be surprised by Obama's position at this time.

Sadly, there are some pretty viral comments on this subject. It doesn't really surprise me because civility seems to have gone out the window when dealing with this subject......gays in the military, marriage, civil unions. We need to take a deep breath, & LISTEN. There are to many people denied living freely & equally, no matter what our religious affiliation we claim. Embrace each other & work this out.

Come on people. Those who defend "marriage" are defending a religious institution that is no longer relevant. We tend to violate this "divine contract" more often than not (I've been married four times). So chill out. Live and let live. Less hyprocrisy please.

that's not all he's been slamming...you big savage, Barney!

How could anyone vote for this idiot? Man, I thought we scraped the bottom of the barrel when Obama was handed the White House keys....

Barney needs to go back in the closet and resume being a pivot man.

Frank should be in prison but instead the idiotic dumbocrats keep re-electing him.

When Gay marriage is legalized, the society is going to be
disintegrated. People have no shame.

This is just rediculous! I have nothing against gays and lesbians; I served along side them in our great navy. I would die for my fellow gay/lesbian sailors as they would me. But, I do have a problem when they can't be satisfied with getting the benefits of a married couple and not the title. Marriage is for a man and a woman; as it has been for centuries! I would like someone to give me ONE good reason why they should have this title. And you can't say for rights because you are already getting the rights (AKA benefits).

Wow, it IS true... the fanatical right CAN hate someone more than Obama! Too bad it's in the form of blanket bigotry!

My secular (hetrosexual, mind you) MARRIAGE was not performed by the clergy, nor did it include a single mention of 'God.' ...yet it is still called a MARRIAGE and is 100% legal.

Marriage was not invented by the Christian religion. It has been around a lot longer! So why do we let these pinheads control the meaning of the word?!?

JT, man + woman…..it's science.?

It's also science that through genetic, familial, environmental, and social factors people ARE GAY. Some animals ARE GAY. It's a part of life, and gay people deserve that respect. The fact that 2 men or 2 women can't reproduce (thought they can raise a child who would end up a wonderful person) should be enough consolation for your narrow-minded self.

Frank is right. This is not just.

Hate Gays June 17th, 2009 12:47 pm ET
I'm sick of gays always crying about something. They make me sick.
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That was not a very nice thing to say.

May you one day need a surgical procedure and the surgeon who saves your life is gay. Then you will see the error of your ways.

Until then you need to quell that anger. I suggest a laying of fatty foods, alcohol over-consumption and instead adopting an organic diet with plenty of greens combined with a rigorous yoga routine.

All men are created equal and are afforded the same rights under the constitution but the republicans are putting a huge sum of money into blocking gays from getting married so that they can be afforded all of the federal rights that married couples get including tax, death and social security benefits. Where are they for tax equality when gay couples are taxed 3% higher than married couples? Where their health benefits are considered taxable income while married couples are not. When if they die their social security does not go to their partner but back to the government and their property cannot simply be transferred to their partner, but they must pay estate tax! Where is the hard core right for TAX EQUALITY and CONSTITUTIONAL EQUALITY now?

Barney Frank is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Watching him stutter and spit on TV is worse than listening to fingernails being dragged across a chalkboard.

Russell, you ask ' ...how come gays can't be satified with a civil union, we are giving you rights with benefits , be satisfied with that..." Most states don't even give gay couples civil union rights and the "Defense of Marriage Act" prohibits the federal government from recognizing civil unions as equivalent to "marriage". Thus straight couples have more rights than gay couples.

Heck, I could divorce my husband of 15 years and marry a guy I met in a bar the night before and I'd have more marital rights than my gay friends who have been in committed, monogamous relationships for over 15 years. Give gays the SAME rights as straights PERIOD!

I don't care how you "feel" about same-sex marriage. I don't "feel" that Larry Kings' 6th marriage is on the same level as mine, but I'm not gonna try to deny their marital rights.

FYI to James. A recent Gallup poll showed that only a minority of 20% identify themselves as "liberals" in America.

This shows that this country has a long way to go. I feel that Obama has betrayed the gay community. It is sad to see his actions are completely the opposite of his promises during the campaign.

The federal government has not traditionally and universally been involved in the state issued marriage certificates UNTIL the right-wing, bible thumping, extemist got involved. These people that want MORE government interference and bigger goernement to oversee these new federal acts at what cost to taxpayers?

@ JT, who said "man + woman…..it's science."

no discrimination....it's LAW.

Rep. Frank needs to get back to work and figure out why and how he let Fannie Mae get in such a mess UNDER HIS WATCH !!!

And, now, after TARP, Fannie's headed right back in the same direction.

Don't tell me that Rep. Frank couldn't have done anything. He, and other pol's spend years telling us how only they can get things done in Wash., DC. We voters sholdn't allow them to have it both ways

To Neel T.

God never has had anything to do with religion – that was people's idea to exclude other people. God is about a relationship. Actually, without that relationship, all the 'religious' people will be lumped together. Unfortunately, at present, that includes you.

Barney Fife is an idiot, liar, and should be railroaded out of DC. The only way this moron got elected was his large gay constituents. When will our government understand the #1 job is to protect the people! North Korea, Middle East, Financial meltdown, unemployment. Wake Up

I'm a strong advocate for calling the legal union between 2 people of the same gender something besides marriage. Just as we call a female a she/her and a man him/his, we can make similar gender distinctions for marriage. It's not a seperate but equal issue. I think many African Americans might disagree with gay advocates equating their struggle with the African American struggle in the USA.

@ Sniffit, who said "I spend my time suing the gov't for more money when it takes peoples' land."
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Well if this doesn't beat all. A lawyer... nay a FAR LEFT lawyer at that... with a redemming quality. The apocalypse must be near.

Keep your religion out of the lives of those who don't believe in it. At a point in time interracial marriages faced the same discrimination as homosexual marriage faces today. I hope we will overcome this injustice too one day.

Obama campaigned as a Savior and a Liberal who would Change Everything! Cue screams and wild adoration.

Now we see he is liberal-light, pro-corporation, pro-war, and cannot be pinned down on an actual opinion.

The joke is on us.

There is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual preference. It the same as the difference between personal private choices and public policy of acceptance.

As Christians, we can accept your right and freedom to choose as you will. Why does this country have to spend so much energy beyond that simple point. Go back to looking at our high school drop out rate.

I don't know how i feel about this, its kind of a catch 22 in my opinion. I think the President has the right idea though. It doesn't mean the gay community cannot live their lives everyday with their partners, they just cannot get married leagally in certain states. And according to the Bible, marrige should be man + woman, not the same sex. But to each his own, don't blame the President. Its in the bible...read it.

OH my God, I agree with Sniffit on something!
Oh my God!

Quick! Buy a lottery ticket!

Hell must be expecting flurries today!

(Also liked your comment about suing the government for $$$ when it "appropriates" folks' land. You don't seem to be so bad after all.)

Frank slams Obama...

Sniffit you fabricate more misinformation about the First Amendment then anyone I know. Is this to aid your agenda or are you just mistaken? All the First Amendment says regarding religion “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

Defense of marriage doesn’t have to be a religious battle it is a traditional fight. Marriage is an old custom established for a man and a woman to bond and create a family.

the house of cards are slipping as we speak.

yes....Change is in the air pole smokers.

Anyone who argues that we have more problems to fix than civil rights is so morally wrong it's sad. I don't care if your losing your job when gay people can't even live freely in our so called free state. The most important issue at hand is educating ignorant people which led us into the bush/cheney mess. That starts with same sex marriage and health care...

lets keep bringing wedge issues into the place they do not belong- the federal gov't

they have no authority to tell you how to live your life- that is if u understand the constitution....

Homosexuals also need to stop equating their struggle with those of slavery. No where near the same. When was the last time you heard of a black person "coming out of the closet" as a black person? Never. Because they are out of the "closet" as soon as they're born!!! They can't ever pretend to be anything other than black either. (Unless you're Michael Jackson, but he doesn't count.)

Gays can act straight when it suites them. Blacks would love to act like something else when it suites them. (especially during job interviews or applying for loans, or driving through certain neighborhoods) But we can't. It doesn't equate.

No matter how hard your life is as a gay person, I'll bet you still wouldn't trade places with a black person for a second!!! So quit it!

While I agree G and L's should be able to do a civil union type "marriage" I don't agree with a hetrosexual type marriage. The G and L's want us to look at them both ways (different and the same) as couples go. They want it all their way or no way at all.. WELL guess what !! It just doesn't work that way. We all are accepted into society on our social behavior so why can't they adjust to a civil union marriage and go on liviing their life? Why must society as a whole accept them because they are some how "different"? Why don't they try to live normal lives on a civil union marriage and maybe society would start accepting them as normal married people.

Barney Franks is a horrible man who ruined so many people with his greed. There does not need to be an amendment made to the Constitution to make his sexual CHOICE into law. There are still some moral people left in the US and we dont want Franks to make it possible for people to marry their poodle. Because if you let them push us into changing the law it will be a circus with all the freaks that will want to marry. Leave the marriage act alone! You got your civil unions so let it go.

I just want to hear how he reconciles the DOJ position and his apparent offer of benefits to same-sex couples working for the federal government. It should be interesting.

First, I never heard Obama state he was recognize gay marriage.

That being said, why don't they? This is a basic civil right and as an African-American, I can sympathize. Our ancestors had to fight for basic civil rights as well.

We need to stop allowing religion to run this country.

Ttwo war's abroad, a global financial meltdown, healthcare spiraling out of control, add in neo-Nazi's and haters to contend with and Rep. Frank wants this new administration to primarily focus on the ability of gov't making it easy for men and women to marry one another.
That's just Narcissism in it's purest form

its ok that they do that people have there opoinions i guess there is no seperating of church and state here in the USA that is ok God has the finally say and i think he is saying someone got it wrong again lol let the bible thumpers have the usa seeming they almost caused a financil melt down of the USA must have been in the bible or God told them too do it make divorce illegal and i will stop making comments the bible says u can't divorce ( opps might cause a backlash its something that isn't right so we gonna ignore that ) people lets worry about more important stuff like getting rid of all of congress no matter what they seem too never get anything right but take are money

Why is everyone bashing people for speaking out about a clearly bigoted piece from the government that GLBT people pay taxes to just like everyone else? What if the gvt said that straight people are all incestual? Would you feel angry? If you say no, you're lying. You should all be offended that our gvt would issue statements like this. Get your head out of the sand and care about others' feelings for once.

Its a crime against mother nature!!! Think about it. Its my right not to accept it and if they want to put it to a national vote it would be defeated.

to southerncousin , are you that stupid or racist to think that Obama is the cause of the colaspe of our financial system , you truely need to take a look at yourself , the president of Brazil stated " The economic was cause by blue eyed white people who thought they knew everything , because I don't know any black or miorities that is the head of any bank in the US .

LOL, the one clown says that Americans are socially liberal...hmm, then why has gay marriage been voted down EVERY TIME it's been on a ballot? I think it's like 17 states, OH for SEVENTEEN...really liberal, genius.

@ russell, wh osaid "if we vote against it , it should be the end of the story "

That's not why the Constitution exists. You couldn't be more wrong. Unless you want to admit that next time you find yourself in some sort of unpopular minority, the rest of us can vote to take all your rights away?

Lee June 17th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

Fox is the only station with REPORTER. The other stations parrot what theObama administration wants them to say. A reporter reports, they look for information that the American people need to make an informed decision. You get pro and con on Fox. All you get is a love fest for Obama on the other stations and infomercials. The reporters on the other stations should really be ashamed of the job they are doing. I want facts. Where were they on Acorn, on Health care costs, on the unfair treatment of women?

Shame on you NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and ABC. Do what we as Americans need you to do. Investigate and report.
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THIS IS FUNNY TO ME SINCE THIS PERSON IS PRETTY MUCH SAYING THAT ALL OTHER STATIONS SUCK BESIDES FOX, OH I WONDER WHY!!!!!!

When he was running for office he said clearly that he does not support gay marriage. Why ask again? Could things have changed already??

Randi L. June 17th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

The Justice Department's job is to defend and enforce laws passed by Congress – not to decide whether it likes them or not. DOJ is only fulfilling its role here.

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Ummm, that's pretty much the same argument used to defend the decision to waterboard – like it or not, strictly speaking it was legal.

Hypocrit much???

Religions is ridiculous and has caused more damage than good.... has restricted rights, caused wars, restricted stem cell research, and breeds ignorance... in 100 years religious people will be a minority..

@ Fair is Fair, wh osaid "wouldn't you rather be ambulance chasing?"

As a conservative, you'd actually probably be happy to know I spend my time suing the gov't for more money when it takes peoples' land. /wink

the people have spoken ,leave the word marriage alone , it ''s meant to be a union between a man and a woman , how come gays can't be satified with a civil union, we are giving you rights with benefits , be satisfied with that , In California the people have spoken out against gay marriage , why should there be any other argument or referrndum on gay marrige , if we vote against it , it should be the end of the story and it 's not what most normal people inAmerica want , then why keep pushing something that we don't want down our throats , IT'S WRONG PERIOD , are we the only counrty pushing homosexuality to the for front to everthing else . Go to another country and try pushing gay marriage and let's see if you make it back to the states alive ,

Mike in MN – WELL SAID!!!!

I couldn't agree more...separate but equal was unjust for African Americans in the 1960s, just as our current laws are for gay Americans today. This is an issue of civil rights, and they are American just like the rest of us, so they deserve the same rights as us. The government has no business telling any American who they can or cannot love or marry, we need a separation of church and state, just as our Constitution states we have.

Isn't it ironic that those who belive in fairy tales and an invisable man in the sky... seem to think that they have all the answers and want to judge everyone?

Take you book of fairy tales and shove it!

I hope that President exactly meant what he said. I'm already sick of Obama's changing his mind on many issues.

I am looking for news on CNN of the firing of Inspector General Walpin by Obama. He fired the Inspector General eventhough there is a law that is supposed to give 30 day notice and a valid reason to congress before a firing of Inspector Generals. This is news.

There are more important things to worry about besides these defectives people!

forget religion..

man + woman.....it's science.

The President has never said that he would sanction gay marriage, which I don't either. Frank is just posturing for the gay and lesbian community, who have every right to live their lifestyles, but should not expect everyone to go alone with their choices. The President said he would do what he could to repeal DADT, and he will. I am more interested in him trying as hard as he can to fix some of the more important economic problems that we have after 8 years of Cheney/ Bush being ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL. The President will be fine, and I am sure he has many more supporters than those who are being so selfish as to think that their perceived, petty, problems should dominate our lives at this time when people are losing their jobs, lifesavings, and homes along with rising gas problems. Grow up people, 149 days is just not enough time to fix everything!

"Dems you need to realize that much of your base leans conservative on social issues." – donttreadonme

LOL! Some of you NeoCons really do live in a world of your own don't you? Keep dreaming... haha...

I got news for you, most Americans are sick of the "NeoCon jesus freak" routine.... It was proven in Nov. 08!

In fact most Americans are liberal in thier social issues...

The stupidity of this debate is part of the reason I am a unisexual.
No legal or moral arguments, complications or justifications.
Just me, myself and ayi, Ayi, AYi, AYIIIII !!!!

Homosexuality is an obvious sin and even if homosexuals achieve the so called "equal rights" they are seeking, they still won't sleep soundly at night. Homosexuals know what they do is wrong and all of this push for equality is an attempt to somehow numb their consciences. Homosexuals what u do is a sin and you need to follow ur hearts and stop it...Please!!!

When folks start to view the Bible as a good read and not take it serious we will all be a whole lot better off!!
Marriage is about loving someone not if they are male or female.
It is not about procreating life because we already have a bunch of folks having produced life and are not married, so that's a lie.

Why does the government at any level, local, state or federal have to have anything to do with marriage?! Marriage is a personal and/or religious issue. Separation of church and state in the US should dictate that it should leave marriage where it belongs–between people and/or their clergies, not something to be legislated. And for those who quote the Christian Bible, please keep it to yourselves. Look around, not everyone in the US is Christian. Respect others as you would like others to respect you.

.... it's only a matter of time, these young people, the new generation coming up, you think they waste their breath talking about such obvious choices.... OF COURSE Gays should be able to marry. If I can why not them. Sorry to all the religious folks but we don't live under the rule of one religious book ... Go to Iran if you think "God's Law" should rule. It's all these up-tight old people and that probably includes you that waste both time (as I'm doing now) and money on such issues. The young sometimes know so much more than we do....

When folks start to view the Bible as a good read and not take it serious we will all be a whole lot better off!!
Marriage is about loving someone not if they are male or female.
It is not about procreating life because we already have a bunch of folks having producing life and are not married, so that's a lie.

Patricia – leave God out of your Bigotry and Hate.

Barney,
You have been partly to blame for this terrible financial crisis and yet you want to continually stick that nose in somewhere else.
Please, don't go away mad, just go away !

barney Frank is right, Obama flip-flopped on this issue. He ran on his support of gay rights, where are they now? I think Pres. Obama is doing a great job, but this is one issue in which I disagree with him. He needs to reverse Don't Ask Don't Tell, and the marriage bill as well. This is an issue of basic civil rights., and I say this as a married hetrosexual woman. Gay or not, they are still Americans and they deserve equal rights, period.

What does God or the bible have to do with gays? China seems to be the best place for most of the comment's or wait maybe the middle east, my way or the highway! Guess what I learned, GOD made me and Divorce or several Wives (at the same time or after each Divorce)in some cultures are ok. With all these "Love thy Neighbor" types who speak on behalf of GOD, no wonder you do not hear him or her. Love has little to do with sex yet you seem to base your judgement on that. I bet your ignorance is indeed bliss. Love you anyway. Peace!

I don't know all the legal ramifications of equating incest with same sex marriage except to say that both are an abomination to the Lord.

We need a national "civil union" law that allows any two people for any reason to form a legal relationship.

Interesting how CNN and Mixner negleted to mention who was responsible for both the Defense Of Marriage Act and the "Don't Ask – Don't Tell" gays in the military policy. They were both passed in the CLINTON Administration BY the Clinton Adiministration – not by some right-wing Republicans. This proves my long standing belief that liberalism may be responsible for selective short-term memory loss.

@ Sniffit, who said:
"Now, raise your hand if you're a GOPer and your eyes just popped out of your head that I'm agreeing with criticism of Obama haha"
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Attorney Sniffit Sniffit, Esq. – wouldn't you rather be ambulance chasing? You may be a far-left ideologue, but everyone can see the trial lawyer blood that runs through you.

Aren't there more important issues to debate other than gay marriage? Let the states decide. Enough said.

@ Sniffit

This is such a sensative issue because it deals with equality. I don't see how we can discriminate against this group because of their sexual orientation. You being the lawyer, tell me how homosexuals can be treated fairly in this situation.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell still violates the UCMJ's Carnal Knowledge regulations as homosexuality is clasified as Carnal Knowledge (Immoral). You will have to get Congress to change the UCMJ first! Obama ran on the same policy as the former Miss California stated. The Defense of Marriage Act is to protect states whose moral standards are high enough to not coincied with the more liberal states anything goes standards. We need to settle this in the legislative branch but Congress knows they will not get re-elected and they do not have the spine to make the hard decisions.

Ughh! I am getting so sick of hearing people call homosexuals "perverts" and un natural!!! You simple minded bible thumpers need to understand that #1 There is a seperation between church and state in our constitution and #2 Homosexuals are born this way in "your" God's image. I certainly would never choose to be gay, but I was born this way as well. Oh, BTW, I came from a very loving and supportive family and a positive social up bringing, so don't even try to go there!!

You all forget that Barney Frank is from Massachusetts, where Marriage is not a "one man/one woman" issue. We've had gay marriage for 5 years, and haven't seen the ill effects yet. Actually, its gone so well, that almost all of our neighboring states have also legalized gay marriage. And now New York and New Jersey are probably next. DOMA will be overturned by the Supreme Court in the next year, and Obama won't even have to discuss it. Of course he pandered to the idiot majority on the gay marriage issue. The writing was on the wall, and he knew it. The Justice Dept. brief was unfortunate, but will probably disappear by next week, especially in light of the equal protection/rights given by today's signing. Gay marriage will be legal everywhere inside of 10 years...and no one will even notice 2 years after that.

Leviticus 18:22-24
Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:24-27
I Corinthians 6:9-11
I Timothy 1:8-11
Jude 1:5-7

God bless America

Separate but equal doesn't work and it's still discrimination. It didn't work for African Americans, why should we expect it to work for homosexuals? I am a christian but I do not feel that it is the governments right to dictate who can and cannot get married. Just get it over with, allow for same sex marriages and then allow churches to make their own decision of if they want to preform the ceremonies or not. People who discriminate are bigoted fools who are disgusting, not homosexuals that just want to be with the person they love and have the rights they should be entitled to.

Hey Barney Frank...

Take a break from yourself for 1 minute. The go look at that wall. See the writing on it? Read the writing on the wall, Barney. The people of MA have FINALLY come to their senses. Novermber, 2010 will have you looking for another line of work. Maybe an alyst position on MSNBC?

Signed,

A Fed-Up MA Voter (in your district)

One word: PATIENCE.

This again shows how stupid the voters of MASS are! Why do you keep electing this fool?? Hasn't he damaged this country enough?

I'm as conservative as can be, but this is just ridiculous.

Marriage is a religious construct. Civil Unions are a state construct for legal purposes. The states should recognize any and all unions as they would any other legally-binding contract.

If people choose to be married in the church, great. Good for you. But you still should have to get a "union" license, not a marriage license, if you expect the state to legally recognize your union/contract, for all legal purposes, wills, end-of-life care, next of kin issues, etc etc etc.

Besides, this entire issue is simply a political wedge, a political football if you will, that has been used to divide voters along some stupid line.

I can't believe *I* of all people am siding with Barney Frank on this one, but so be it. Maybe I'm just more libertarian than I thought.

why does a group of ABNORMAL individuals feel they are intitled? marriage is a pact with GOD. Homosexuality is a afront to GOD. I think they (gays) should have survivorship/spousal benefits/rights...just don't call it marriage.

Looks like Obama wanted gay money, gay support and then stick the knife in the gay community. He is just another politician who figured out how to get elected. The gay community is the only group left that you can openly trash and it looks like it is going to stay that way. If you are gay or support gays, then don't give any money to this administration. Find out who is and stop giving them money also. We need to fight back, gays have no civil rights and aren't allow the same freedoms as other Americans. STOP GIVING OUT MONEY !!! We can cause some harm back their way.

much more pressing theings to worry about

There goes the mortgage queen barney fudd frank again..trying to show us that the dimwitocrats are a party of one subject..I would of thought by now that he and his buddy chris dudd dodd would be in jail for destroying the banking industry

There always seems to be some confusion for those who want to propagate their own agendas..Somewhere a boundary has to be dreawn....from my view .your sexuality is your buisness not the Governments..yet as much as one wants to deny this country was founded on faith principles a review of the constitution would show you otherwise.....with that said...Barney Frank should not be in office unless he fully understands this.
Despite our differences God commands us to love our neighbors...which is each person in your path..that doesn't mean agree with the sins they committ against God (and we all have)...it means simply to love that person whom God created and loves. (see Luke 10)

If Obama is gonna give benefits for one group, give for all. Give for people living together, people living with mulltiple partners. Barney Frank you are a joke!!! I thought it was hilarious on MSNBC when you got upset when someone actually questioned you. boo hoo!

Also Obama needs to get over someone criticizing him. I like watching Fox news but I also like Morning Joe (MSNBC). They at least can have intelligent debates!! How dare we criticize your Chosen One!
Watch out there will be a Television CZAR next!!

President Obama has made his position clear since the primaries. He believes as the MAJORITY of AMERICANS do that MARRIAGE is between a MAN and a WOMAN. And guess what? He was elected. Well go figure. What rights are gay americans being denied? Personally I don't go around announcing that I'm heterosexual. Who cares? If you're gay, you're gay. You know the law. If you want it different, go where it's legal to marry. And stop comparing this issue to being black and CIvil RIghts. It is not a sin to be black. We've got two wars going on and looks like the potential for two more, and this is what is in the headlines? Puleeze. Give it a rest already. It will never happen.

Whatever happened to SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE??

Its great that we now find out Barney Frank can read since he certainly wasn't reading during the financial crisis when he was responsible for overseeing Fannie Mae et al.

Barney,

You don't bug us now about Defense of Marriage, and we won't bug you about the financial system's failure.

Now is not the time to distract our President, which ever side you are on.

The problem is with the LGBT's reasoning for why gay marriage should be legal. Every time something like this comes up, they say "I can't help who I fall in love with" or something like that. That reasoning right there is severely flawed. Anyone can apply that reasoning to any type of person/animal/object. A pedophile can say that he can't help that he loves children, and could be psychologically correct. Sure, people cannot help the way that their mind works, but that doesn't make their resulting actions right. Get a better argument for why gay marriage should be legal, and that would stop these comparisons to pedophilia/incest/beastiality.

Hey Flo, and all you other high and mighty bible thumpers who pretend to be Christian for convenience, yet spew your hate on boards like this....hardly a Christian behavior. You people seem to mix up the Bible with the Constitution. Two separate documents. You may have your Christian views and dislike gay behavior, but the Constitution (not a religious document) affords the same freedoms to everyone. Marriage by itself is not solely a religious event. If it were, there would be no reason to pay a municipal license fee and obtain blood tests. And, for those who seem to so freely hate...I bet you gladly use the tax money a provide for your children to attend school, for your social security, etc. If I must pay for you, I should have the same rights as you.

people find another dem to replace frank

America has a long way to go before we can truly call ourelves the "Land of the free". Accepting Homosexuals in our society is probably the next big step in that direction.

To all the "Gay Bashers".......redeem yourselves for the hate you hold towards other human beings. Learn to love your brother and we will have a more civil and decent society here in America.

God Bless you Mr. President. We know your heart is in the right place, even if you have not yet found the right pathway to correcting the civil rights injustice to our homosexual Brethen.

Peace be with you all>

it's disappointing to see obama not have the courage to just scrap this stupid act.. the DOMA is as ridiculous as alabama's laws against interracial marriage were in the 1970s... it's time to grow up america.. time to move FORWARD... bans on gay marriage are archaic, discriminatory and embarassing.. read the Iowa Supreme Court's decision on anti-gay laws in their state.. it's a beautifully eloquent, logically flawless assessment of the ridiculousness of ANY anti-gay marriage law...

I have a right to oppose it, remember freedom of speech? You go do your thing Barney, but don't try and press the issue with me. I don't think it is right so keep your comments to yourself. As far as me paying for it, no way no how. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

No, Frank.

The big mistake was Democrats allowing you to be on both the appropriations committee and the banking committee when they gained power in 2006.

But, as usual, your one big issue, despite the utter failure of both committees you chair, is your sexual preferences.

God. Ya gotta love Democrats.

Obama is over the top liberal when it comes to Government and economic policies. But he is somewhat conservative socially. It will be interesting to see how far the left can pull him.

Dems you need to realize that much of your base leans conservative on social issues.

Big mistake, indeed! This makes me sad. I never thought Obama would do that. What was he thinking?! I am waiting for an explanation too.

There is the Pride of the Democratic and the cause of our financial mess..............Nice picture Bonnie Fwank

Brian... you say ton June 17th, 2009 12:14 pm ET

I believe the purpose of marriage is to procreate... if this is the case then I guess you say that those couples who can't or choose not to have children should not be recognized as being married and immediately disolved.

Patricia, how dare you define Christianity for me? I'm sick of right-wing Christian extremists who act like they have a monopoly on what God thinks (and what God "hates"). You are trying to hijack the term "Christian" for your own sick bigoted views.

I am a pro-choice, and I am a Christian. I am a lesbian, and I am a Christian. I don't believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible, and I am a Christian. I follow the teachings of Christ, and I am a Chrisitan.

I see so many people who don't want to identify themselves as Christians because of the bad name people like you have given it. Well, honey, I AM A CHRISTIAN, and I will NOT deny my faith just because you are a nut!

Wow..... This must be a holiday in the hills of appalachia judging from the comments. Ignorance reigns.

Re: Obama's Aim at Fox News–what country is this–Russia? I am losing respect for a President who wants to shut out any criticism of him–someone needs to question this govt–thank god for FoxNews and their guts–the rest of the news stations are totally and completely afraid of him.

I'm surprised at how many people base their entire worldview on a book whose contents cannot be substantiated in the slightest degree. Given their beliefs, including people living inside whales, two of every species hoarded onto a small boat for 40 days, and resurrections from the dead – all events for which no evidence exists – it's difficult to understand how many Christians have any credibility whatsoever on any issue.

Have you noticed that Obama is taking a lot of heat for his policy decisions lately? Bush always took heat because you couldn't tell if he was a liberal Republican or a blue-dog Democrat. Obama has such radical policies that even the fringes of the liberal establishment can't stomach his policies.

I smell another conservative refolution brewing.

@ Dutch, wh osaid "Call it anything you want besides for marriage. Civil unions, domestic partnerships, etc."

Sorry dude...you can't have it both ways. Either:

A. "Marriage" is inherently religious terminology by nature and therefore has no place whatsoever in our laws OR

B. No matter whether our laws say "marriage" or "civil union," NONE of it has religious connotations and the practical effect for both, no matter which term is used, is what you separate-but-equal advocates want to call a "civil union."

Choose. Our laws are FORBIDDEN by the First Amendment from having anything to do with supporting, favoring, ratifying or having anything to do with religion. Buyer beware: your attempts to insert religion into our laws will only open the door for the gov't to insert laws into your religion.

The Justice Department's job is to defend and enforce laws passed by Congress – not to decide whether it likes them or not. DOJ is only fulfilling its role here.

May I ask Barney Frank or any other homosexual what would the world look like in fifty years if all were homosexual.

Where would the future generations be, how would there be a future generation if all were like Barney Frank, Lynn Cheney, and their partners???????

For those who thought that there was a united front within the Democratic Party concerning same-sex marriage, this certainly should open their eyes that this is even a controversial issue there.

Regardless of the Defense of Marriage Act that was brought up, the one thing that the Justice Department has right is the "full faith and credit" clause of the US Constitution, which is where the argument should lie. It is because of this clause that the interest in making a Constitutional Amendment to either allow or to ban same-sex marriage will probably end up happening.

As for the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy of the US Military, my question is this...does it really matter? So far, it seems to have worked well, so why mess with it? The military should not be a forum for political issues, though it has been used so in the past.

I think that anything done on this issue should be considered movement given all the other problems out there that the president has to deal with right now. With all that is going on, I would hope people don't find me disrepectful, but this can wait for a few months.

@ Patricia, who asked "where does the U.S. think they're stand with God right now?"

Gimme a second to consult the First Amendment. Ah yes, here we are: God takes a back seat to our secular laws.

Sorry...it's all there in writing...right from the get-go...ab initiio...from the founding of our coountry forward. If you'd like us to stop being the United States of America, just admit it. if not, then you're gonna have to accept it. Theocracy is UNAMERICAN. Chew on that.

Yes, Finnally. I'm so glad somebody in this administration took a stand aginst this absurd notion that gay marraige is natural and normal. I'm sure a brother could be in love with his sister too. That dosen't make it right or natural, nor does it give them the right to marry. It's actually a very good comparison

President Obama is just signing a bill giving spousal rights and benefits to same sex federal employees. This is a complicated matter legally and President Obama is a lawyer, as are you, Barney Frank. Unlike the previous administration, President Obama cares about reaching concensis, not imposing his will on others who disagree with him, and disagreeing respectfully. You all have made this a States's rights issue and the States seem to be slowly making the right moves for civil rights for all.

What me worry.....since digital I no longer can watch a Fox Station.
Sounds like not much of a loss

CBO
Congressional Budget Office.
On Healthcare.
It is going to cost 2 Tillion and there is no listing on how the programs will be paid for and where the cost is from.
I though BARRY was big on Pay as you Go. I thought we were not going to spend ANY money unless we had somewhere to get the funds.
Why are you changing the rules Barry. STOP SPENDING MONEY.
The Health Care system is not perfect but it is not broke...
You will ruin it Comrade Barack.

Frank is the real "Big Mistake" here. That loser needs to go.

One thing I disagree with Obama on is his views on gay marriage. It should be called "marriage", not "union" or else all such legal contracts should be called "unions" even the ones performed in a religious location. The only place it should be then called "marriage" is inside a religion. Contrary to Christian mindset, marriage is not Christian and existed long before the creation of the religion.

That being said, its not exactly a surprise that they came out with something like this.Obama never said he supported gay marriage. In fact, he said that he supported "civil unions", not marriages.

Come on now. Don't be in denial and don't be surprised. You know better than this.

Once again the president is proving to both parties that he speaks out of both sides of his mouth..the promises that he made during the campaign are turning up to be empty..it is amazing what a canidate will tell people for their votes and their money..change we can believe in??..I don't see it

You see this is a huge problem, we have got this Frank charater trying too help get these immoral laws past for these homosexual groups. I would say that the majority of the Americans does not support this homosexual agenda. Look at California, people voted to strike down the homosexual laws time and time again. The President knows this and is not going to damage his career on passing these laws that are unethical and is not natural. I support the president on this issue. Folks can come up with all sorts of junk to defend homosexuality, but nothing no matter what people says or does, it will not be justified because it is unnatural. Barney Frank needs to retire!

Give it a break Frank.
You killed the entire economy with the collapse of the mortgage and banking system.
Instead of working on that you are worried about social issues that just dont matter.
Get your focus Frank. Fix the economy you destroyed.

This is pathetic. Incest is blood relatives and happens mostly among hetrosexuals. There is no relation in homosexuality.

Read the bible and respect yourselves. Marriage is a union a MAN and a WOMAN. Give me a break. I'm tired on hearing about these weird folks. Go to a therapist and get yourselves some help. On this issue, give me Sara Palin and the Republician party anytime. I'm so sick of these creeps.

Obama wants it both ways. He okays benefits for same sex partners, but has failed on other campaign promises made to the gay and lesbian community. He is trying to appease the gay community.

Remember he said during the campaign that he might not be able to accomplish all he wants in his first term, implying that he expected to have a second term. Well, I hope that you all remember this when the next election comes along. He made promises he had no intention of keeping, just to get your vote. Don't give him another chance to pull the wool over your eyes.

When it comes to family values and the war, Obama looks like a Republican, when it comes to social services, he is further left than most Democrats.

Marriage can be only between a Man and Woman

I never knew Frank was gay. I am all for giving every constitutional rights to gays and lesbians but Just don't called their union MARRIAGE period.
You can create another name for that.

Well, President Obama, VP Bidan, and SoS Cliton have all stated they believe marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman and this is one of the few things they have NOT flipped flopped on.

Why are people surprised?

PRESIDENT OBAMA DOES NOT SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE!!! Get over it.

Well, maybe the administration did make a mistake Mr. Frank......but the bigger mistake here is you being a member of Congress!

I can't wait to read what the Obama apologists have to say about this one!

As well he should. The only good thing about the Defense of Marriage Act is that it will create a controversy ripe for decision by the Supreme Court so we can lay some legal smack down on more of our country's bigots.

Now, raise your hand if you're a GOPer and your eyes just popped out of your head that I'm agreeing with criticism of Obama haha

Even when the Obama Administration was the Obama Campaign, it was not as gay friendly as it claimed to be. Jackie Norris, former Chief of Staff to the First Lady, would have Secret Service move or remove people carrying or wearing gay political signs or clothes at rallys. But should we be surprised? This is the same group of people who deny the media's fascination with Obama, yet when the President swats a fly, almost every television news organization runs the story. ABC News is granted permission to broadcast GMA and the Evening News live from the White House – something that is completely unprecedented.

This is one of many reasons why so many gay men voted for Hillary Clinton. Obama's disastrous interview in the Advocate - where he claimed his gay role model (a professor whose name he couldn't remember) was his role model because he didn't "proselytize" - should have sounded the alarm for the gay community before the primaries. But, there you are.

How can you say you're a Christian and support same sex marriages? God forbid!

If America doesn't repent, the situation is only going to get worst. If God destroyed Sodom and Gomorra, where does the U.S. think they're stand with God right now?

The GLTB coalition has to stop acting like petulant children...

...with make or break (the nation economically) legislation like Healthcare Reform and Business Reform Legislation on tap...

...President Obama can't afford to spend political capitol (and media attention) at this crucial juncture on issues that can wait...

...The President has introduced legislation to give same sex partners of gov't employees survivorship/spousal benefits/rights...

...GLTB coalition should be patient, the President (is on their side) and has only been in office for less than 6 months, and he has a heckuva lot on his plate!

Slavery was once viewed as "tradition" and "heritage" as well. Who flipping cares about a tradition based on intolerance and injustice?

I think CNN is confused about what the word "SLAM" means. I guess they are trying to stir controversy where there is none.

Call it anything you want besides for marriage. Civil unions, domestic partnerships, etc.

Instead of outrage at some stall lawyer's filing at Justice, why doesn't Frank take the action to address the fundamental issue- the act itself. Go change the law of the land instead of carping about interpretations of this law!

Hate to jump to Obama's defense, but remember this is the guy (along with Chris Dodd) responsible for the collapse of the housing market.

Barney talking about a gay issue. It is the ONLY subject on which Frank is even remotely knowledgable.