June 18, 2009
Posted: June 18th, 2009 11:58 AM ET
President Obama pitched his health care plan to the American Medical Association on Monday and today, a Senate committee is working on a massive health care bill.
President Obama pitched his health care plan to the American Medical Association on Monday and today, a Senate committee is working on a massive health care bill.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - A Senate committee began the arduous work Thursday of debating and amending the first comprehensive health care bill to come before Congress this year.

The measure before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee is one of at least four expected proposals for overhauling America's ailing health care system.

At issue is how to best reduce the cost and increase the reach of the current health care system, which officials say is increasingly draining personal, corporate and government budgets while leaving 46 million Americans without health insurance.

President Barack Obama has made the issue a top priority, warning that failure to act now would bring far worse economic difficulties than the costs of plans under discussion.

Both parties in Congress agree on the need to slow the increase in health care costs while ensuring that all Americans can get health insurance, but they differ sharply on how to proceed.

Democrats generally favor a government-funded public option to compete with private insurers. Republicans say such a step would lead to a government takeover of health care, which they would oppose.

The parties agree on several principles, including an emphasis on preventive care, cost-cutting measures in the existing Medicare and Medicaid programs, and a halt to denials of coverage because of pre-existing medical conditions.

While the Senate HELP Committee began its work, the Senate Finance Committee has delayed its consideration of a similar measure because of uncertainties over the overall costs.

A Congressional Budget Office preliminary analysis this week said portions of the Senate HELP committee bill it has reviewed would cost $1 trillion over the next 10 years while reducing the number of the uninsured - currently 46 million - by just 16 million.

Meanwhile, a bipartisan group made up of former Senate Majority Leaders Tom Daschle, Howard Baker and Bob Dole has offered an outline for an alternative plan intended to overcome the deep party divisions.

The proposal by the Bipartisan Policy Center called for a budget-neutral plan that would include taxing some employer-provided health care benefits for workers.

The plan stopped short of an outright government-funded public health care option, but called for various forms of government assistance to help make coverage more affordable and available. It also called for requiring all Americans to have health care.

Both taxing health care benefits and the lack of a public option go against stated Democratic positions, while the mandate for individual coverage is opposed by Republicans.

Filed under: Healthcare


dominican mama 4 Obama   June 18th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

To joey from san diego:

...well there was that little incident with his brother in Florida helping him steal the Presidency. Supreme Court was a cohort.So I wouldn't go around saying that we "elected" him exactly.

Dave   June 18th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

So we spend a TRILLION dollars (and now CBO says it may be over $1.5 T) over 10 years to get 16 million more people insured, leaving 30 million still uninsured. Do the math, that's $62,500 per person over 10 years ($93,750 if $1.5T is the real #).

and this is Health Care reform????

Can anyone name just one single proposal being discussed that will actually cut costs? Oh that's right, WE the public will not know ANY details until this monster gets passed.

Our health system is broke, please don't make it worse

dominican mama 4 Obama   June 18th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

"The parties agree on several principles..."

Praise Jesus!! It's a start. And lookit, nobody got hurt.

tedious898   June 18th, 2009 2:51 pm ET

TCM June 18th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Here's a revision….kill the bill….get a job, pay for healthcare.

Once enough people cannot buy insurance, the price of all goods and services reduce….it's the market, you idiots! Just like anything else on the market, health insurance is a product….demand dictates price. Once the government gets involved,
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Geesh....TCM; you have to be the loudest idiot I've ever heard. Competition is a factor in price. If I'm selling the same service you're providing for half the price; you either lower yours or find another line of work.

Listen...were was all this outrage when we were burning up billions in the Iraqi desert? Now we are trying to spend money on real citizens of this country...all you intellectually challenged GOP'ers are having hissy fits. Go back to school and let the adults handle it from here

Ted   June 18th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

I keep hearing the GOP rightwingnuts say that overhauling healthcare is not an emergency. We know what Bush thought was an emergency – invading a sovereign country based on lies. We also know what he considered not an emergency – rebuilding New Orleans after Katrina. The GOP rightwingnut neocons care only about themselves and not the American people. The GOP is the party of NO and they need to get a grip, pull their heads out of their butts and stop the stupidity of Cheney/Bush/Rove/Boner/Faux news and the rest of them.

tjaman   June 18th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

TCM: I've read that exact comment from you too many times and you know what? You're absolutely right. When my company fires me and sends my $15/hr job somewhere they can pay $2 for it, I should drop dead because I'm of no value (even though seconds ago my productivity was worth something like $15/hr).

And when I make $10/hr at two part-time jobs and neither offers health coverage I'm sure I've got plenty left over after rent and food and clothes for my family to afford some outstanding coverage just like real people (read: rich).

Will you please consider the notion that the market you so idolize is spun off the cliff? Care has no relationship anymore with costs, the current model is not working for too many people and the system is in need of a serious reality check.

If they pass a flawed bill we can fix it. But doing nothing won't fix anything. ObamaCare'09! :D

william gair   June 18th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

We can no longer afford not to have the "government option" to

To many of us are sick and dying.

tedious898   June 18th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

How come you reputhlicans don't just watch Faux News for the republican response? I'm sure you know that station will be happy to destroy anything our President proposes.

and one last thing……

EACH ONE OF YOU ARE THE MORAL EQUIVALENT OF A GUTTER SNIPE…..willing to eat anything thrown down the sewer by your party leaders. Where was all this out rage when we were spending billions in Iraq? Now we want to spend it here (on Americans) and you freak.

We need you guys to finish High School before posting comments and voting

Me in Big D   June 18th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

@dreamer – by reading your blog, you are a "dreamer". You obviously lack an education – too lazy or too dumb to pass? You diction and spelling leave something to be desired. You should be embarassed!

@Darren – better to your homework on government controlled healthcare. It is NOT doing well in Canada, especially for the elder and it certainly is NOT doing well in Great Britain! Under Nobama's rule, he thinks everything should be run by him!

Peter E   June 18th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

Yes, the government is such a failure on everything... I'm sure that's what you keep in mind when you reject government funding for clean water, construction and maintenance of highways, your police and fire departments, and of course our military! I'm sure you want to pay your neighbor a road toll each morning to drive on the road he owns. I'm sure you want the fire department to be privatized and decide whether to save your home based on profits. I'm sure you want the military be a number of competing corporations that go into countries to protect that can pay for protection.

swordoftheritechus   June 18th, 2009 2:40 pm ET

That's right TCM, the guv'ment's going to hold a gun to your head and force you to sign up. It's you that's the idiot, you and all the other right-wingers that have your thinking done for you by Lush Rimbaugh. The government health plan will be an OPTIONAL one – do you understand what OPTIONAL means? If you prefer to pay more to your provider of choice then you are free to do so – if you can grasp the concept of free choice that is. So quit with the lunatic scare stories and try thinking rationally, it's not that painful.

Me in Big D   June 18th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

@dreamer – by reading your blog, you are a "dreamer". You obviously lack an education – too lazy or too dumb to pass? You diction and spelling leave something to be desired. You should be embarassed!

howie   June 18th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

I just hope Nobama doesn;t screw with what I presently have. I pay for my health insurance by WORKING the same as others should do. LEAVE MY INSURANCE ALONE.

Limbaugh is a liberal   June 18th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

The private health industry has failed already! Doing more of the same will just be a bigger failure! And more expensive! Americans spend over $2 trillion EVERY YEAR to private companies whose bureacurats decide your health depending on how much profit they want to squeeze out of you! We need to change the system, not just do more of the same! At least government run healthcare would be taxation WITH representation. And they aren't running it for profit!

Tom Paine   June 18th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

The last thing we need is Obama tinkering with our healthcare too. Dump the proposal in the trash.

Me in Big D   June 18th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

@girlymen love the GOP – and you're probably one of the ones that's looking for a healthcare "handout" because you're either either too illiterate or too lazy to obtain a good job that has healthcare benefits. I'm sick of having to pay for you lazy people and the illegal immigrants that sneak into this country to have their babies AT TAXPAYERS' expense. If he wants healthcare reform, stop illegal immigrants, among others, from getting free healthcare!

The lonely Libertarian of Liverpool NY   June 18th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

Did you know that the insurance business was illegal for most of the history of this country? Back in the day when the US Dollar had some value, before 1913 when the Federal Reserve Bank was also illegal. The reason health care is so expensvive is because of the insurance industry.

Kenyan Wonder Kid   June 18th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Great picture of our tiny and tiny-minded messiah.

ArtNYC   June 18th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

The govt has done such an amazing job with medicare and medicaid that we now need to nationalize the whole healthcare system.

Post Office is another great example of how well that organization runs.

Rob   June 18th, 2009 2:26 pm ET

Typical lib fashion. Campaign promising to do something, when the opposition tells you it can't be done you convince the weak-minded that they are against change. Then, after you've swindled your way into office, you find out that can't follow through on your pipe dreams and empty promises.

So, who's he gonna blame this time?

Careful all you lemmings, he's getting closer to the edge!

Mark   June 18th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

We could pay for healthcare by taxing the exported medications we provide to other socialized medicine countries like Canada, who limit the the amount companies can charge...thereby creating a situation where the American consumer subsidies their socialized medical system.

AndrewCPA   June 18th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

This should be rammed through congress to just so Obama can see I did it. If that happens that $1T price tag will seem like nothing. Work to cap the malpractice docs have to pay. This is why costs go up.

If congress really wants to see how this will work they should all give up their nice health insurance plans and have to use the VA/Military/medicare for a year and see how it is. I am sure they all will see that when the gov't runs healthcare it is not so great. Now before people attack me... I grew up with military healthcare. It was good to ok. Thank goodness my family did not have many issues, but the one time we did I spent two days waiting to see a dr. talk about wasting time.

Work together on this or some of you will not have a job in a few years.

Ann   June 18th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

Health care should not be a for-profit business. There should be a public, single payor.

nw guy   June 18th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

if they plan to support all americans with this plan it will cost

$1.9125 TRILLION DOLLARS.

the dems plan for 16 million americans cost 100 Billion a year. thats $6250 per person a year. if all of us are on it all (306 million and yes including illegals) it will be 1.9125 Trillion dollars. I only make 40K a year and yes I pay taxes, have done so since I was 16 years old. We can't afford a plan that punishes people who have insurance by taxing them to death.

Rob   June 18th, 2009 2:14 pm ET

Here's a radical idea. How about we all take better care of ourselves? That would minimize doctor visits to just check-ups. I think the government should also provide incentives to companies that promote a healthy work atmosphere by encouraging workers to excercise for a half hour to an hour a day during the work day.

Currently Japan is fining companies with overweight employees (thanks to fast food). That's how you bring health care costs down.

Mark,B'ham,Al.   June 18th, 2009 2:11 pm ET

Tort Reform is a must or the bill should die where it is!

Mark,B'ham,Al.   June 18th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

If you want to see government ran health care look at the US Military. It is an HMO system that the Clinton administration put on us when the system we had before work much better, even though we were still short physicican like Orthopedic Surgeons. They just dropped carrying (Tri-Cor) another medication I have been on and I still have to go out to a civilian pharmacy to get Lipitor. Remember they are still not caught up on their patients for orthopedics. My health care from my wifes job is a whole lot better than anything the government ever provided me or my disabled adult son. That is what those of us who have great medical benefits and are willing to pay for it have. Also my youngest son who made $18,000.00 last year is paying $250.00 a month to get great coverage for he and is toddler son even though he has to make some sacrafices which I know alot of the uninsured are not willing to make for their kids. P.S. we could not get my grandson on the SCHIP program because he lives with his grandparents. Now that is discouraging.

Robert   June 18th, 2009 2:09 pm ET

"think about the post office…
think about your local DMV….
that's the future of healthcare under Obama!"

Think about student loan programs...
Think about the military...
Think about drinking water...

The government gets more things right than wrong.

Jennifer in AK   June 18th, 2009 2:09 pm ET

To TCM: What about those of use who have very good paying jobs, but still can't get healthcare because of "pre-exsisting conditions?" Which in my husband's case, is a treated by a $4 monthly prescription from Target. I got approved for insurance, but no maternity coverage. He got denied, 3 times by 3 different companies for his pre-exsisting condition. Now, I'm paying out of pocket for all my maternity expenses, which I can afford to do because I make lots of $.

To wlou437: Yes, Medicare/Medicaid have low reimbursements and demand a certain amount of documentation. However, Private insurance companies demand a much, much, much higher amount of paperwork with their constant ridiculous denials of coverage and "pre-authorization" forms.

Sniffit   June 18th, 2009 2:08 pm ET

@ Fed Up, who said "Just love the photo of Obama used for this!!! Hilarious!"

I know right? Was the cameraman drunk or does he just have bad aim? Wait a sec, did you hire Dick Cheney to shoot the pics CNN? Looks more like an ad for the AMA haha

John   June 18th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Obama is changing the face of America with no regard to the Constitution. You think healthcare is expensive now? wait until it's free.
I pray for the United States of America and all of our children.

Leah   June 18th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

@Dan, NY

I am Canadian and I am happy with Canadian healthcare systems
I pay $ 600 Canadian a year, and I have access to all types of specialists, I have my family doctor whom I can see within 2 days of making appointment. We have hundreds of walk-in clinic where doctors are there 24/7 for minor injuries ached and pain etc.,
We have hospital all over the place. free eyes doctor also.
These are basic care all Canadian have
If I want an extended care then I pay extra for dental
It's may not perfect but it's way better than have nothing at all.

Darth Vadik, CA   June 18th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

TCM,

Just hope you don't lose your job in this economy, and your healthcare, because I will be right there on your butt screaming "GET A JOB YOU BUM", except when you're in your late 40's and 50's and you lose your job, even if the economy is good, it's hard to get a job. Do you really think any companies will hire an "old dog" (so to speak).

You idiot,

why don't you think before you speak. I got laid off due to the economy and it took me 9 months of intensive job searching to find a new one, and I'm 32.

Like I said lets see you get a job in your 40's or 50's, and god forbid 60's. But hey, you could be a greater at Wall Mart, but oh yes, THEY DON'T PROVIDE HEALTHCARE FOR THEIR PART TIME (under 30 hrs a week, which they keep everybody at by hiring more people than they need so everybody is part time) EMPLOYEES.

God I despise you conservatives.

Richard-Arkansas   June 18th, 2009 2:05 pm ET

Dan,NY

If Obama went to Canada or the UK he would be amazed at how easy it is to see a doctor and without cards and all the hoops we jump through here. He will also find that they have better healthacre than us along with the other 15 countries that have better healthcare than the US. What every one says is such a great US system doesn't realize is that $1000 a year of their payments are going to cover the uninsured.

With over 40% being uninsured and trying to stay away from the doctor for fear of bankrupcy, we have a national security threat that a untreated disease moving through this "invisible" group could put this country at severe risk before we even know there is a problem.

Remember, in that bankrupcy total there were a very large group who had insurance but it wouldn't cover major problems, forcing them into a decision of stopping treatment or going bankrupt. Not an acceptable choice either way,

Kristin   June 18th, 2009 2:04 pm ET

Dan in Ny- Are you off your meds today? I think the last pres was the one who initiated bailouts. Remember. Last spring Bears , Stearns- ring a bell. Then in fall Tarp?? Any of this coming back to you. I know the repubs can't remeber passed the last ten minutes. And how exactly is everything nationalized. Do yourself a favor and stop watching Faux "News".

Just My Opinion in Texas   June 18th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Fair is Fair ... The only way I can see adding more doctors to those specialties is to make being a doctor profitable for them again.

I know most doctors get into medicine because they want to help ... but they should at least be able to pay off their educational debts and other bills.

Used to ... doctors drove the sports cars & the dentists drove the mini-vans. Now ... it's the doctors driving the mini-vans & the dentists driving the sports cars. (My dentist drives a Mercedes & the dentist down the street from him drives a Ferrari. And THIS in a town of less than 20,000 people!)

That should let you know who is making money these days!

democrat no mas, but not right wing yet   June 18th, 2009 1:59 pm ET

Stop implying that healthcare will be free. Let's all accept the fact that we want good medical care on demand for a reasonable cost for everybody, including illegals, and this will be very expensive. Trying to pay for it by reducing what doctors, hospitals, nursing homes, etc., are paid will only reduce the care available. Give us a best estimate of the cost for all this, not just the cost of adding the uninsured 46 million, and then offer us a tax plan. I'm don't support a single payor government run plan because its cost is excessive. I deal with the total inefficiency of Medicare, Medicaid, and Indigent care on a daily basis, and it's a mistake to underestimate how badly the government can screw something up.

walleye   June 18th, 2009 1:59 pm ET

Bush said "There are a lot of ways to remedy the situation without nationalizing health care," Why didnt he pick just one of those ways and run with it instead of spending billions for a war which was built on LIES and no one wanted?

Willy Brown   June 18th, 2009 1:57 pm ET

When can we reall this guy?

NO CHOICE   June 18th, 2009 1:53 pm ET

From what I understand Obama states we will still have a choice. You can keep your own insurance through your employer, or you can go to goverment plan. I can assure you, I do not know any employer who will offer employer insurance if they don't have to be bothered with it. I am fortunate that my employer pays for some of the premiums, but I can assure they wont pay a penny if they dont have too. Especially if taxes go up. Also, I work for doctors and they will be making less anyway. I guess, I should hope I will even have a job provided the doctors stay in practice. The overhead is too high for all of the government mandated rules and regulations now.

Karon   June 18th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

Actually, the best run part of health care today is Medicare and Medicade! Ironic, they are both part of the Government! I am on Medicare and thank God I have it because I have cancer and I go to the best oncology hospital – M D Anderson and I don't have to pay for any tests. My chemo runs about $9,000 each time but I only pay $75! So, the government health care is doing great by me – they don't make any MEDICAL decisions – just keep my costs down while keeping me alive. THANK YOU GOVERNMENT!

Marty, Grand Rapids Mi   June 18th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

TCM, how come everyone makes fun of our post office? For 41 cents I can have someone come to my house and pickup/drop off some small pieces of paper or a box and send it anywhere in the US. The DMV is state run, so if your DMV stinks, it's because your state is miss-managing it. Lastly, the US military is government run. Are you suggesting our military is run poorly and would be better served if corporations took over our national defense?

The problem as I see it is insurance companies are the middle man. They need profits and they all have different ways of getting paid, approving coverage. They are basically the overhead. Why not get rid of them and go to a single payer include co-pays to keep the tax payer interested.

TERM LIMITS   June 18th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

We need to demand TERM LIMITS NOW. It shouldn't matter what party you are from. It is the only way to stop corruption on all sides. Being a politician was never meant to be a career. We need to start making noise on this issue! Get the word out!

Hugo   June 18th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

Let's see, we made a mistake it isn't 1.35 trillion it is 3.5 trillion. Remember, a trillion dollars equates to $1.00/second for 31,000 years. Regulate lawyers and insurance and you cure the problem. You can try and blame all you want on Bush, it was a democratic House and Senate that got us here. It is a Democratic president, House and Senate that will finish us off!

Simmy   June 18th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

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TCM.......Beware of loose lips......They sink ships.....Builders bragged that the Titanic was unsinkable....You may be ok now....Next year may be a different story.....Even if you're wealthy, money can't buy you love....You talk like a bitterly unloved person.......
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Public Option or Single Payer are the only two plans that will gauge a successful bill.....Republicans do not a majority make...Why do they even have a seat at the table? Their new religion is NO.....Let's give Single Payer or Public Option to the supporters who voted for the President....Let the Republicans keep what we currently have in place.....It's the only solution that makes sense.....That way, both sides get what they want....To h to the e to the double l with bipartisanship......President Obama.....It's time to give bipartisanship a big high five minus four.......Tom Daschle....I thank God Sebelius is where you almost were.....You're a turncoat, sir.........Grow a spine.....

Jefe   June 18th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

Here's a revision:

** Eliminate Health Insurance altogether
** Ban advertising for prescription drugs
** Provide for TRUE EMERGENCY care for all with tax dollars
** Provide for an annual physical exam/checkup for all with tax dollars
AND FINALLY:

LET THE MARKET SET PRICING (out of pocket) FOR ALL OTHER CARE; SOMEHOW I DOUBT WE WOULD CONTINUE PAYING $150 FOR A BAND-AID FOR VERY LONG!

And to Joey from San Diego, you write as if people who didn't vote for Bush, voted for Bush. Think a little, 51% of the nation's voters didn't vote for the former cheerleader.

The Legacy...?   June 18th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

When Obama's term will be gone and done; his legacy will be the
"The Takeover President" and after all that was taken the country and in his own words changing the world. What do we think we will see?
Just one big NOTHING...and the world will be worse off...!!!

ron   June 18th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

I would like to know how much pay the ceo & top ten people get.
in healthcare & ins co.. It might cut the the 9% raise in costs

Chad, Wisco   June 18th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

Sorry to say it but this isnt going to happen. There isnt any money there. A better approach in my opinion is to make sure that everyone who is eligible for Medicaid/Medicare signs up if they'd like and then focus on lowering the lawsuits and fraud. If they can lower the amount a Dr can be sued for, it will lower the Drs malpractice insurance, make the Dr more of a healer instead of a tester, which in turn would lower all of our health insurance costs. I mean an office visit costs $200 for 15 minutes in some part of the country, heck i'll tell people they have sinus infections for $800/hour.

John Baldridge   June 18th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

Where did we hear that before from Obama "Act immediately (without thinking) or things will get much worse..." He should sell used cars.

TCM   June 18th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

@ Dan, NY -

So true.....however, liberals are like 16 yr old kids....as you're about to hand them the car keys....you can tell them a million times of the dangers facing them, however, they're in disbelief and wreck anyway.

Sharon Northern Virginia   June 18th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

I really do think this government healthcare program is an issue and it is not good for the country as a whole. The American people will have to fight against this one for sure. Don't get me wrong I am an Obama supporter but I disagree with this GOVERNMENT RUN HEATLHCARE PROGRAM...We must stop this!!!!

TCM   June 18th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

@girlymen love the GOP -

uh...girly...he missed the fly; the media just covered for him...

the dude of truth   June 18th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

first of all Dan, NY is utterly clueless, but that is a wholeother story......i am a fan of some sort of health care reform that does not extend coverage to illegal aliens.

Maggie   June 18th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

It is not the urgency Obma is concerned about. He is afrain that people will start thinking about what he is trying to fool us into thinking he has our best interes when all the time he is fooling us into false security while he aids the governemnet into taking control of healthcare and anything els ehe can get the government invilved in, Pretty soon we will have martial law if people try to think for themselves,

renea   June 18th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

All i have to say at this point is the next presidential election vote republicans so some you can quit complaining about President Obams policies. too much government you say well when you are in need the next time dont look to the government ,look to the republicans for help. they complain about the government healthcare but they are main ones that have the best , government healthcare but when it comes to poor and middle class its too expensive we cant afford it. SO THE NEXT ELECTION VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE THEN SEE IT WIILL TAKE US.

katiec   June 18th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

The republicans and lobbyist must not be allowed to ruin the
health care plan. I'm sure there need s to be adjustments, revisions etc but what we do not need is the our health care being dictated by big business which is, naturally, what the republicans propose. They tout the same broken methods that have gotten us into this diaster.
Without government intervention there will be no change. With republican intervention the American people will become their victims, once again.

P. Y.   June 18th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

@ joey from san diego

No, not all of us voted him into office. I NEVER voted for him. He was the president of the country for 8 years and for 8 years I was sick to my stomach every time I saw his grin.

Trade Freedom for Security, Lose Both   June 18th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

Forgetting that every single Government program is a poster child for overspending, under delivering and layer upon layer of useless bureaucrats, I am sure health care will be the one exception. Just go to a Social Security office – that's the level of service we'll get with Government so-called healthcare.

Dumbfounded   June 18th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

I just hope that in 3 and 1/2 years from now there is still a country and hint a of a real economy that is driven from the private sector. I think Khrushchev said it best:

"We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism."

Mike in MN   June 18th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

Excuse me Dan in NY, but how exactly did Obama destroy our economy. He inherited all these problems from Bush, he didn't create them.

RobK   June 18th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

Let's see. Government has no incentive to control costs, they can just raise taxes. They have no incentive to control fraud, they can just raise taxes. They do not have to make a profit, they get paid with taxes. That's fair competition. I wonder how many people out there would be complaining if the government tried to compete with the business that they are in: government-run grocery stores, government-run barbers, government-run restaurants, government-run car companies. Whoops, they are doing the last one.

Lance from San Diego   June 18th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

If you like the structural organization of the DMV, Post Office, IRS, etc, then you will love how the government runs healthcare.

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   June 18th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

The CBO report on what various healthcare proposals will cost is disturbing– $1 trillion and reduction of only 16 million uninsured. Ben Stein said yesterday that healthcare is a right, and that he thinks the very wealthy should be willing to pay more taxes if that what it takes to get to universal coverage. My Congressman is a healthcare advocate but still wonders "how will we pay for it?"

Mike in MN   June 18th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

Health care in this country is a sham. We pay more than any other country and yet we rank 37th, We've tried a full private system and guess what, it doesn't work. All I ever hear is that the government is going to come between my doctor and me. Guess what, the insurance companies already come between my doctor and me, and if I had a pre-existing condition I wouldn't have any insurance or a doctor. 50 million Americans without health care and how many more who have insurance but can't afford $140 to sit in a waiting room for an hour and then have the doctor see you for 10 minutes.

RobK   June 18th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

The argument given for why we cannot file our taxes electronically directly with the IRS, is that the government cannot compete with private enterprise. Yet, here the government is trying to do just that, at a much greater rate.

barbara   June 18th, 2009 1:16 pm ET

If 85% of America has health care insurance, where exactly is the crisis? Where is the urgent need? Again, pandering to the few on the backs of the majority. I ask for the millionesth time,...why would you want to tear the whole house down and start over with rebuilding when all you need to do is make a few simple repairs? why does obama and the dems insist on rebuilding the whole country when only a few things need to be reformed? why do we allow it?

Jo   June 18th, 2009 1:15 pm ET

Dan, NY please do some of us a favor and move to UK or Canada. You people are not thinking about the elderly people who pay more for their medicine and doctor bills. If you would look at how rich Medicaid is getting off the nursing home people you would shut your mouth. I think we should start paying less for health care and get everyone on board and cut the cost.

Veronica   June 18th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

I am all for a public option, in addition to the private insurance option.

I mean, isn't it the GOP that likes 'healthy competition in the marketplace"?. What's wrong with giving the private citizen the option to choose what plans works best for them and their families? Is the GOP afraid that the public option will surpass what the private option has to offer?

As usual, typical whining from the Party of No Ideas, No Solutions. Oh, and a four page 'plan' which doesn't reflect costs does not a plan make ...

eddie123   June 18th, 2009 1:06 pm ET

National Health care does not work. If you have been in Flordia in the winter months, see all the persons from Canada that have policies here in the U.S. to get health care. Persons who have paid their taxes get the short end of the health care, just ask all those who go to Flordia from Canada. Obama and Nationalize this health care and auto makers ect and you have socialism and look at Cuba and what a mess there. Socialism ,take the country by nationalizing everything, just take way the congress as Obama is trying to do by the nine persons to spend trillions of tax dollars and congress has no say per Obama.

Randolph Carter   June 18th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

Fair is fair wrote: I sure hope there's going to be some ideas in there on how to dramatically increase the number of primary care and geriatric physicians that we're going to need.
Anyone on the committee got the stones to at least admit the problem?

Yeah, all hell is going to break loose as the boomers start to retire, age and die. Good time to get your nursing license. Have a nice day!

Trang   June 18th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

If there's no public option, I ain't buying. I probably will not see a doctor for the rest of my life, and when it's time for me to go, I go, no extension of life necessary. Heck, give the public option, and maybe many people will buy into it. In a way, the public option is a non-profit option. My money aint' going to private health insurers who's after profit ... and I have received many offers. Have a public option, then you can get my money.

Randolph Carter   June 18th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

Dan,NY wrote: Barack Obama has destroyed our economy, he has nationalized everything. Now he wants to destroy our health care system. I wish Barack Obama could stay in Uk or Canada for six months to see what is going on.

Settle down Sparky. I think the economy was pretty well destroyed before he took office. He's doing what needs to be done to get things right again and make sure we can compete in the 21st century. Have a nice day!

Lee-- Dallas, TX   June 18th, 2009 1:01 pm ET

HOW STUPID CAN THE GOP GET...? Here's your answer:

10:21 AM ET - Just what Ahmadinejad wanted. Via Adam Blickstein.

Rep. Pence and Republican Leaders to Hold Press Conference Supporting Iranian Dissidents

Thursday, June 18th, 2009
1:45 p.m.
House Radio/TV Gallery, H-321, The Capitol

[Info is from HuffPost Live Blog of the situation in Iran]

Melissa   June 18th, 2009 1:01 pm ET

You mean it isn't going to just be tax breaks for the rich like they WERE promoting? Better to have national health care than anything the Republicans have been coming up with.

Obama has been helping alot. No matter how much the Republican haters want to think otherwise. He's doing his job. Taking care of his people. Something the selfish Republicans could care less about.

Fair is Fair   June 18th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

I sure hope there's going to be some ideas in there on how to dramatically increase the number of primary care and geriatric physicians that we're going to need.

Anyone on the committee got the stones to at least admit the problem?

Dan, NY   June 18th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

Barack Obama has destroyed our economy, he has nationalized everything. Now he wants to destroy our health care system. I wish Barack Obama could stay in Uk or Canada for six months to see what is going on.

dreamer   June 18th, 2009 12:49 pm ET

To all our represetives.PLEASE fix health care for EVERYONE and not just folk's who can afford the best.Insurance is the biggest scam(save nobid contracts)this country has to deal with.Please please make health care affordable and attanable by all and put aside some of of those devisions of polital parties,We all need this to happen for the health and safty of the country.It will be a good thing to be an america with no health care holes to slip through.We can't afford privitized health care in this country anymore it's too expensive and costs are so out of control.so please please fix this mess and put the other stuff off tell the ellectioin cycle.thx dreamer

citizenjane   June 18th, 2009 12:48 pm ET

I disagree with President Obama that Health Care reform must be done expeditiously. This is a huge undertaking and must be well planned to succeed. There is too great a danger that if done hastily, it might fail.

girlymen love the GOP   June 18th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

President Obama will crush the rightwing extremists just like that fly the other day.We will win this for all freedom loving Americans that need health care.

wlou437   June 18th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

Some doctors are leaving the profession because of the high cost of liability insurance and the issues dealing with Medicare and Medicad.
What is Congress developed a new health plan and no doctors would sign up to accept it?
We already have a shortage of doctors and nurses. The plan needs to insure we don't lose any more because the reimbusemeent is not enough or there is too much paper work.

SLM   June 18th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Keep on working, there are lot of revisions needed to clean up the mess they are working on!! Take your time and do it right!!

Peggi   June 18th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

If the Repulicans are so concerned about the private health insurers being driven out of business by a government-administered plan, perhaps they should encourage these same insurers to do something to lessen the anticipated 9% increase in health insurance costs to employers forecast for the coming year.

9% is ghastly in the existing time and economy!

lxm   June 18th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Everything is TOP issues for Obama and it last for 3 days and then on to a "new" top issue...but still has NO solution for the other TOP ISSUES he has "TALKED" about this man is clueless and I am so very ASHAMED at OBAMA BIN LADEN!!!!!

Sam Sixpack   June 18th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Hey, what do you say we pick and choose which posts to include to create a self-serving false impression?

changing my screen name to see if it helps getting my comments posted   June 18th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

They should look at how things are done in the Netherlands. It's likely the only model of Universal Healthcare that would fly in this country.

And to anyone reading this that is thinking "the Netherlands is in Europe, Europe = socialist, socialist = bad", I'd like to point out the Netherlands mandates its citizens to buy PRIVATE health insurance from a PRIVATE insurance company.

Fed Up   June 18th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

Just love the photo of Obama used for this!!! Hilarious!

Randolph Carter   June 18th, 2009 12:34 pm ET

I'm all for healthcare reform, but look at who is implementing it. After the lobbyists and other contributors have their say, any healthcare reform package passed by congress will be so watered down as to be meaningless. And expensive. I hope I'm wrong but let's see how this all goes down. Have a nice day!

Darren   June 18th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

What I don't understand is how these republicans don't want the government to run health care (which is actually doing very well in Canada) but they want the government to decide who can marry who...hypocrisy at it's finest. You can't have it both ways silly republicans. Either the government runs everything, or it doesn't run anything. You can't pick and choose.

TCM   June 18th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Here's a revision....kill the bill....get a job, pay for healthcare.

Once enough people cannot buy insurance, the price of all goods and services reduce....it's the market, you idiots! Just like anything else on the market, health insurance is a product....demand dictates price. Once the government gets involved, espeically the lib boobs under OBama, we'll be screwed with high costs, and pisspoor care...
think about the post office...
think about your local DMV....
that's the future of healthcare under Obama!

joey from san diego   June 18th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

To all the bush haters, you voted the guy in, 2 times. So quit crying about what a bad job he did. You all knew what you were voting for. So quit saying he was a bad president, he was still your president. You elected him.

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