WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Senate approved a measure to remove $1.75 billion for an additional seven F-22 fighter jets from the fiscal year 2010 budget Tuesday.
The 58-40 vote gave the White House and the Pentagon a key victory over congressional boosters of the popular defense program.
Congress had initially inserted the spending provision in the defense budget despite insistence from President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates that the additional planes are not needed or wanted by the military.
I agree with the cut. Now, Obama, how about restoring our freedoms stolen by the Patriot Act? Prove yourself to be a champion of the People and give us our freedoms back. And while you're at it, quit being Bush-lite when it comes to Gitmo and perpetuating that needless war in Afghanistan. Yeah, you said you would get troops out of Iraq (same timetable as Bush – more Bush-lite), but you're just sending them to a different war.
Good thing we can blame everything on the previous administration, otherwise congress might have to take accountability and responsibility for the other senators and representatives that were in office for the past 9 years. It’s a dog and pony show with our money and we permit it, we voted these people in office, so it seems the level of stupidity travels far and wide
Nice job guys. Knew you could grow some if you just tried! As a country we have to decide whats more of a priority for our tax dollars... weapons of war or tools for peace?
The Obama Admin. is entirely wrong on its foreign policy and defense policy and so was the Bush Admin.! Yes, we should not be intervening with ground forces around the world to maintain and expand our American Empire! We should not be in Iraq or Afghanistan or any of the Central Asian nations. Bring most of forces home from abroad but rearm and retrain and expand our US Military so we will once again be Superior to anyone or alliance of nations opposing us. Most of all stay ahead of the Chinese and Russians and Japanese and Indians in all areas of military and space technology! No more outsourcing of any of our mil. related technology! Let the jihadist take over Pakistan or Afghanistan or whereever and if they or their Proxy forces attack the US or our allies or our bases then one or more Islamic nations will cease to exist from our nuclear annihilation response! Let us never to trifle with these dirtbag jihadists by attempting to wage a "counter-insurgency" war against them as in Iraq or Afghanistan! Exterminate the entire population that they hide in!
Since when do politicians think they know better than four star generals what our military needs? Oh right, it's because defense contractors, and their over-priced, no-bid contracts know better.
Once again politicians just trying to score points. These total flip-flops tout that the Pentagon is on their side in one year, but today they suddenly say the Pentagon doesn't know what it's talking about? Hypocrisy alert!
@ panem et circenses July 21st, 2009 12:53 pm ET
"Did you know that the Secretary of Commerce, Gary Locke, is proposing that American consumers pay China's carbon emission offsets? '... it’s our own consumption activity that’s causing the emission of greenhouse gases, then quite frankly Americans need to pay for that.'"
Actually, that's a pretty good idea, depending on how it's done. If it was in the form of a sales tax added to goods imported from countries such as China, that would actually help level the playing field by making goods manufactured elsewhere (including the U.S.) more price competitive.
Im completely SHOCKED that the republicans didnt fight this tooth and nail.
It seems EVERYTHING they do is geared at throwing more of our tax dollars into corporate bank accounts regardless of its purpose!
You are right, we should spend 1.75 billion on planes we don't need instead of health care we (and I mean Americans – this has nothing to do with illegal immigrants) DO NEED.
Actually, Obama increased military spending by 35 billion this year alone. So on the whole, newly created jobs will out-gain the lost ones.
We already have 140-150 F-22's in service. And the money is being spent to modify the existing models to be more efficient/less costly to maintain, rather than continuing to build costly/inefficient units.
We're supposedly on pace to build about 150-200 F-35 Stealth Superiority Aircraft, which are cheaper and easier to maintain than the F-22.
Air Superiority is very well covered, and can't be matched by anyone in the world.
why not spend on healthcare for ordinary Americans...instead of fighter jets to fight an unjust war and kill innocent civilians?!
The ignorance continues.
Enligthened Voter is not so after all – 13 of the 40 Reps voted to cut the funding.
Did you see that Susan? In fact McCain co-sponsored the bill.
@ FL: "Go back to the drawing table and take the time to come up with something that will actually work, without bankrupting the country"
Glad to see that we can actually agree on something. Fair enough.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Another $1.5 billion not wasted on a program not requested, not desired, and NOT COST EFFECTIVE.
Congressional "do gooders" need to bring home the "bacon"! BUT AT WHAT COST? Jobs MAY BE lost
ahhh shucks, these airplanes only cost 100 million EACH..... ya just never know when ya might need another "Dogfight " right?
How many kids could we educate with a 100 million?
Good! These planes were a waste of money.
We need this kind of scrutiny for every item in the budget, but in particular, for the military budget.
My dad was a 30-year career Army officer, and I'll never forget what he told me: It was cheaper for the military to just buy new stuff at over-inflated prices than to inventory what they had and see if they really needed to make the new purchase. I was only 9 when he told me, but it still made me mad! That kind of waste is unconscionable.
But as Eisenhower warned us, the Military-Industrial Complex is powerful and has much more to do with making money, regardless of the financial consequences to our country, than in protecting our country.
Yeah, we only have a military and weapons to KILL foreigners, I forgot. Having the BEST, STRONGEST military prevents future wars from the tin-pot dictators Obama bows down to or goes out of his way to praise. No two constitutional republics HAVE EVER FOUGHT EACH OTHER. What PLANET are you nanny-state libs from? And speaking of outer space and those who say we shouldn't waste our money... You are aware of all of the new technology and jobs created by the space race, aren't you? We wouldn't be having this discussion if it weren't for the integrated circuit that lead to personal computers, mobile communication, etc... not to mention the LONG list of inventions (NOT TO MENTION JOBS) that resulted from all that "wasted" money just to shoot off some stupid rockets.
Peter E: Eliminating the F-22s WAS what the generals recommended. Besides, we already have 187 of the planes.
Now, if you want to talk about not listening to generals and the very real consequences of that, let's take a look at Donald "Never Served a Day in My Life" Rumsfeld who completely ignored (and pissed off) all our generals in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.
They tried their best to convince him that we needed a bigger force, but, no! Ol' Donny knew best, predicting we'd be greeted as liberators and saying he'd be surprised if the operation took longer than 6 months.
Now THAT'S arrogance and ignorance of the first order!
Kill this and the bulk of NASA, we cannot afford to billions flung out into space, not with the deficit we are facing.
Mike, Syracuse, NY July 21st, 2009 1:11 pm ET
Excuse me, but your ignorance is showing.....again.
Not one sortie has been flown by an F-22 in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Tell us, which A.F. generals were fired? Please let us know what they said (quotes, please) and why they were dismissed.