July 29, 2009
Posted: July 29th, 2009 02:56 PM ET

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Vitter fired back at Voinovich Wednesday.
Vitter fired back at Voinovich Wednesday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana slammed fellow Republican George Voinovich Wednesday for saying the GOP's problems stem from the fact that it is "being taken over by Southerners," calling the Ohio senator "a moderate, really wishy-washy."

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," Vitter told the Washington Times. "There are a lot of us from the South who hold those values, which I think the party is supposed to be about. We strayed from them in the past few years, and that's why we performed so badly in the national elections."

"[Voinovich is…] a moderate, really wishy-washy," he said.

Voinovich, who has decided not to run for re-election next year, told a newspaper in his home state that Southern dominance of the GOP was hurting the party elsewhere.

"We got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns," Voinovich told the Columbus Dispatch Monday. "It's the Southerners….

"They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr . . .' People hear them and say, 'These people, they're Southerners,'" he said. "The party's being taken over by Southerners. What the hell have they got to do with Ohio?"

DeMint and Coburn are both major critics of President Obama's health care reform plan. DeMint has emerged as a top target for Democrats, who have launched ads attacking the South Carolina senator for saying the defeat of the proposal would "break" the president.

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Alan   July 29th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

And this solidly identifies Vitter as part off the GOP's problems. Sorry, Vitter, the guy's right. And since he's leaving public office he can speak freely. I think I would believe him before I believe a word you said.

The Republicans are clearly in ruins and frightened. There are already signs that a recovery isn't too far off and they're determined to make certain any way they can that it doesn't - just so they can get re-elected. When Rush said he hopes Obama fails, he meant it and was speaking for most of the GOP...but for different reasons.

That's plenty of reason to make certain they aren't.

Josh   July 29th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values"... I'm assuming Vitter is referring to values that relate to family and honesty and stuff like that... I'm glad Vitter thinks he's a paragon of "conservative values" because the rest of us aren't that dense.

Suzan   July 29th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

Republicans just might have to give up some of their core values........some of them are old and out dated........to many young new people in the country that don't believe in the Pro Life, or pushing the gays aside like they are not human beings, we are not begots or racists like most of the old GOP, people have had it with the religions of this country that is trying to run the Republican party trying to tell them what is right and what is wrong and then set back and watch these fools get caught in their own adultrous affairs.........this party needs new young life and young blood........The old GOP is DEAD

KP   July 29th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

I guess this guy Vitter thinks "Dixie" is gonna rise again. These folks need to learn how to get along with the rest of the world and stop living in the past. "White is always right!" is no longer popular.

John   July 29th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

That is about the funniest thing I've heard in a while: Vitter thinks that Republicans have done badly in the past couple of elections because they're not conservative *enough*!

Yeah, you guys keep getting *more* conservative – that'll help *rolling eyes*

Core Conservative Values   July 29th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Pretty quickly the GOP will be as pure as the John Birch Society - and about as politically powerless.

Ron Martin   July 29th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

The southeners hold the GOP hostage and you wind up with the Sara Palin's of the world leading the party and people think it is a joke.

Kevin B   July 29th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Voinovich is right, the southern GOP caucus continous dogmatic, knee jerk negative reactions to any and everything that would benefit average americans is met with resistance for purely political reasons andwith no thought given to even thier own constituencies best interest . They have become the new dixiecrats.

Zack   July 29th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

It's just sickening and incredible that the republicans had no trouble giving Bush carte blanche in funding the illegal Iraq war, which has cost far more than health care reform would, and yet they will turn their backs on fellow Americans in need of health care reform now. Why is it they cannot come to a consensus that the American people deserve the quality of health care members of congress already get, that we, the tax payers pay for...Jeeessshhhh!

John S   July 29th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

I'm not sure that either Senator has it right but it does appear many of the more conservative fractions of the party also appear to be evangelical. These are typically based in the South and Southwest. Not saying there is anything wrong with this per se but the Eastern, midwestern conservatives draw a very fine line mixing politics and religion and this maybe something that conservatives will have come together on if they ever want to become anything more than a parochial party.

Kevin B   July 29th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

Voinovich is right, the southern GOP caucus continous dogmatic, knee jerk negative reactions to any and everything that would benefit average americans is met with resistance for purely political reasons andwith no thought given to even thier own constituencies best interest .

They have become the new dixiecrats, truely a relic of the past.

JonDie   July 29th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

The problem is that Voinovich isn't a real "Christian" man like Vitter, Sanford or Ensign, Voinovich's never been caught with a prostitute or a lover.

The GOP does have a problem with the South since the average IQ of southerners is much lower than that of the rest of the country, thus, the GOP always has to pander to people with limited mental abilities.

AntiRush   July 29th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

Voinovich is right. The Southern Conservatives only care about guns, religion, and abortion. They endorse any candidate who agrees with them on these issues (see Sarah Palin) whether or not the candidate is actually qualified to do the job. While the majority of Americans think that these issues are important, the majority of Americans are mostly concerned with 1) the economy, 2) the economy, and 3) the economy. Note the results of the recent Presidential election, and the issue that decided the outcome, the economy. Until the Republicans come up with some kind of ideas on how to make the economy better, besides tax cuts for the rich, they will be in trouble. It would also help if they stopped telling people how to conduct their personal lives.

Change_Has_Begun   July 29th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

this is exactly why the republican party is failing – they slam anyone with godd reasoning...

Fla.   July 29th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

Yeah Vitter. And when you say, "conservative," you mean CONservative. Americans have already seen the so-called values exposed as hypocrisy. Give me a break.

It is beyond comprehension how Vitter even retains his seat after admitting to illegal activity with a prostitute. These GOP standards are indeed wishy-washy in that quest for party "purity."

Andrew   July 29th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

Remember this is political speak. Southern conservative values = right wing religious extremism.

Tyrone in NYC   July 29th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

NEWSFLASH: CNN goes off the air and off online for a weeklong period. People DO NOT miss it and are more than happy with the non-news stories that continually seem to be reported on there, including the non-sense BREAKING NEWS flashes.

irwin   July 29th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

It's about time a Republican 'broke ranks'. They've been showing they're out of touch, so Voinovich is a breath of fresh air. We need a progressive party to counter the Dems and, while I don't see the Repubs getting there soon, any retreat from its neanderthal policies, will be good for the country.

Dan   July 29th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

Is sticking your 'lil' Vitter inside a prostitute part of "conservatives getting back to conservative values." You're a shameful little boy David.

Felix   July 29th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

And the in-fighting continues!

Mathew   July 29th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

If by "Southerners," Voinovich meant people who place little value on education, equate nationalism with religion, equate slogans with discourse, and who believe 'true' Americans are white, male, and Christian, then yes I believe the GOP is suffering from too much Southern influence.

Mitch Miller   July 29th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

A real conservative would want to conserve society’s overall health. A real conservative would want to conserve a woman’s right to choose. A real conservative would want to conserve global temperatures. These faux conservatives that are all about imposing their “moral values” on the rest of us deserve to lose elections. And when they say they are all for small government, what they are really saying is they are all for larger churches. No thanks. I’ll enjoy my spirituality at its source, Nature.

No more GOP!   July 29th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

George Voinovich told the truth. I think their republican party would be in a lot better position if it didnt have as much southern influence! Im a proud southerner but I am not proud of the a lot of the political ideals and racial attitudes that a lot of WHITE southerners portray!

ch   July 29th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," " Sen David Vitter from above article

Vitter – the same US Senator who solicited prostitutes in DC. The man with the diaper "fetish" – Google it to see for yourself!

Only in Louisiana or some other red neck, right wing southern state full of self righteous hypocrites would this man be allowed to hold public office.

michaelam   July 29th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values,"

I really was hoping "Diaper Boy" would've stated getting back to "family values" as well. I guess he realizes he's not the poster child for family values.

judesuper   July 29th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

YEAH, and the repubs want this guy as their spokesmen.

Richard in California   July 29th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

So Senator "DC Madam Client" Vitter is on the side of "core conservative values", eh? And he's saying that gynecologist Senator Coburn, who cites doctor-patient confidentiality in reference to his interactions with male Senator Ensign regarding his affair and its cover-up, represents more of these "core conservative values"? Sure.

And Senator DeMint, who would rather play politics, rather than stop the nation from going over the financial cliff created by the health care crisis, also represents these "core conservative values"?

If that's what "core conservative values" are, then we're going to need a new definition for the word "crazy."

stewie   July 29th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

they won't listen... what republicans don't understand is that the world is changing. people who used to be moderate and independent can't support a party where racism is so tolerated. Anyone who thinks different just needs to go read the Fox News blogs. I believe that is a big reason their party is shrinking.

Anonymous   July 29th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Conservative values? Like cheating on your wives!

Craig- Easton, PA   July 29th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Core conservative values, Senator? Like faithfulness and family values? You're right about the straying part. Anyway, I'm having a hard time following the logic. The Repub Party strayed from their conservative values, presumably becoming more moderate and this infuriated the voters so much they voted for a liberal like Obama and nominated the most moderate Republican candidate in McCain? Think you might be misreading the situation just a tad.

spock88   July 29th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Hmm... errr... Don't really know what to say... :)

Troy R.   July 29th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Now it's the South vs. the North? Not exactly. Anyone heard about Sarah Palin? This is just some figerpointing du jour on the periphery of current GOP in-fighting. The core issue for Republicans is twofold: 1) the GOP candidates that can easily win GOP primaries have a difficult time in nationwide elections, and 2) more and more traditionally 'safe' GOP districts move into flux and national demographics continue to change.

Putting this all in South vs. North terms is rather silly.

Randolph Carter   July 29th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

It's not a regional thing at all. It's about conservatives' basic philosophy of maximizing corporate profit at all costs and social control based on their narrow interpretation of an old book of folklore. Have a nice day!

Donna A. Reuter, Bremerton, WA   July 29th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

Vitter, open your eyes and ears. George Voinovich is telling the truth, you are just a uneducated knave who doesn't know any better. You are probably one of those, who lived in the French Quarter all of your life and never once ventured out of it to see the real United States of America until you went to Washington, DC. Once there, you did not developed the intelligence needed for someone who is getting paid by the citizens of the USA.

Charisse Krieger   July 29th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

I am one southern democrat who is screaming "it's about time the republicans turn on themselves"!! Yipee. Now a chance for a real fight to represent South Carolinians, and in the wake of our recent political fodder, it might just not be that difficult to throw these conservative hypocrites out of office!! DeMint, Ingles, Sanford, they all gotta go!!!

Husman   July 29th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

Vitter is such a looser that his Southern values of deceit and hypocracy cant stop him from presenting himself as a leader.Before Vitter, there was a Tom Delay and a host of other empty bags that arrogate the leadership tag to themselves.
Pity how a hopeless,boozing,womanizing disciples is your political leader who sees virtually nothing you can do for yourself besides what he thinks is right for you....

Art in Las Vegas   July 29th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

I love it; Vitter insults Voinovich by calling him a MODERATE. That's what we need a more radical rightwing! Please Republican keep up the hate mongering, scaring the angry white males, scaring the elderly, and drive the Hispanics further away. Keep being the party of NO, no change, no health care reform, no to gay rights, no to a woman's right to choose, no to affirmative action, no to education, no to EVERYTHING Obama is try to do. You HATE Obama so much you would let people suffer just so Obama will fail. I call that TREASON

Jeff   July 29th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

Vitter & Co. are 100% morally bereft. GOP stands for nothing but taxes for the rich.

Tony Justin   July 29th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

I often think that the US would be better off if the Union had lost the Civil War. Then the remaining Union states would be more like Canada or Australia, and the Confederacy would be like South Africa before the elimination of apartheid or like Iran after the Iranian Revolution. In any case, Voinovich is correct that conservative Southerners have taken over the Republican party and conservative Southerners do not, in any way, represent the rest of America.

GOD Help US   July 29th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

Say what you want but you can't win a national election without winning a few Southern states. I think the attack on the southern accent "errrr, errr" is a bit much and with that type of attitude I see why no one takes him serious.

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Darla (Edmonton, Canada)   July 29th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

Conservative values, Senator Vitter? You're the last person who should be talking about values ... you have none! ... and your personal actions in the past certainly back that up.

GOP4Life   July 29th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Come on brothers! Quit all the hatin! Let's not forget that hese libs are tryin to pull one over on us about health care!

Zack   July 29th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Yes, let's get rid of the Jim Dementias, the Tom Coburns, etc. Their policies are the policies of no..When someone like Dementia ignores the health care reform with no plan of his own (along with the rest of the right wing of the Republican party), and just says no, and that if he can help kill health reform (which Obama promised in his campaign and is diligently forging ahead...this is why the majority of us elected him, and he is doing exactly what he says he was going to do) we'll crush Obama...it is pathetic to say the least.

Casey Hoyack   July 29th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

I support for all the world nation in the History and Have a Good Boring Day

Brennan   July 29th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Let's not get started with you! Mr. I cheated on my wife!

Lisa   July 29th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

I am a lifelong Ohioan and have never been a big fan of Senator Voinovich; however, to call him a "wishy-washy moderate" does nothing but emphasize his point. It is a frightening day when a man with Voinovich's voting record is considered a moderate. The Republican caucus should be careful what they wish for in wishing he were gone. They might take note that Ohio is a "blue" state now and his seat is likely to be won by a "D" in the next election.

Tommy   July 29th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

Well, Vitter and other con repubs are pretty wishy washy when it comes to values. I think we need to remember he has a problem with prostitutes.

One thing is for sure: this guy is a die-hard hypocrite!

Aim high!

Lonnie   July 29th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

I tire of hearing our elected officials worry more about their party than the american people as a whole.....When a district elects a representative, he represents ALL of the people in that district, not just his base...How have so many people (let alone representatives) forgotten about that....

George B. from Ohio   July 29th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Voinovich is a ... gasp ... the horror of it all ... a MODERATE!!! Heaven forbid we have moderates in public office. LOL!

Obama Victim   July 29th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Southern Repubs look foolsh here............ignore him...why bother responding to someone who really is a national joke anyway???

Vic   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values" HUH?

Does that mean no more hookers from the DC Madam (RIP)?

Casey Hoyack   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

Voinovich is absolutely right! If the Republican Party ever wants to win elections again, they need to appeal to the moderate Midwestern and Northeastern brand again and not the ultra right wing that lives south of the Mason-Dixon line.

billp   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

I have to admire how Vitter can talk about "core conservative values" with a straight face, given that he was exposed for consorting with prostitutes. Oh, right – they were female, so it's okay.

Melanie, MD   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

Is Vitter speaking for the conservatives who cheat on their wives? Just wondering.

skyhouse   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

Hey George, you just stay with those core conservative values. wife cheating, race baiting, gun toting, religious zealotry, the party of NO. out of touch, out of sight, and out of their minds....

Daniel Schlafer   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

When David Vitter talks about " core values " , are we talking about his family relationships or his extramarital affairs ? You could never call Vitter a hypocrite , could you ? I also would never call him " wishy-washy" , because he knows how to support family values and not support family values .

Laurie in Spokane   July 29th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

The Republicans lost the last election not because of their lack of conservative values, but because they come across as so close-minded, and "my way or the highway", and many of them have a holier-than-thou attitude. That really turns people off. And, a lot of those values and red-neck attitude comes from the Southern areas.

Keith in Austin   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Voinovich needs to talk with Arlen Spector and find out. How to turn coat and run to the democrat party. The GOP will not need him or his Liberal tendancies in 201O. American people (not freeloading on the Government lam) are waking up to what Liberal Democrats are all about: Big socialized Government, ridiculous pork-filled spending, higher taxes, fewer individual freedoms,distain for free enterprise just to name a few. In 8 short months Obama has spent more than all presidents before him. He and his radical ambitions ruining our great Country will lead to his own political demise and the beurocrats that support him in future elections! It is destined to occur!!!

joe magarzatz   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Senator Voinovich is absolutely correct! The best way to defeat the Republicans is to continue sending more Jim DeMint types to the Senate. Elections for the Presidency and congressional majorities will favor the Democrats for years to come.

Vitter should be more conservative about his marriage!

Susan L.   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

So I guess David Vitter's Southern Conservative values include infidelity and prostitution. That kind of double-standard is exactly why the rest of the country isn't particularly interested in Southern Conservative Values. Hypocrisy doesn't sell that well, Senator. Why not see to the mote in your own eye first, eh?

kmp   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Ohhhh that is funny coming from Sen. Vitter wishy washy moderate and that he Vitter is a "Conservative on the side getting back to the core of conservative values" well Vitter may as well stand in line with the rest of the hypocrites in the Senate and House who all stand behind that curtain of conservative values, Mr Black Book escort seer. Hummmm who is wishy washy now?

James   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Evidently Mr. Voinovich, as both governor and senator, has helped create such a utopian paradise out of Ohio that the South is being overrun by former Ohio residents who can’t seem to get out of there fast enough.

Bev - NYC   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Really if one of your own is slamming Southerners, should you really have another Southerner with a call girl past be the spokesman calling someone wishy-washy? Do the Republicans understand irony? They are the best soap opera going.

elana   July 29th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Well, Mr. Vitter, Sometimes, the TRUTH HURTS!!!

Holly   July 29th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

What is Vitter on about??? Yeah, the GOP need to get back to conservative basics of visiting more prostitutes. Give it a rest, hypocrites!

Ex-Repug   July 29th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

Are you sure we shouldn't have let the South secede when we had the chance?

SNAPPA   July 29th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

What the senator should have said and it would have made much mroe sense because this IS the real problem with the Republican party: It has been taken over by the bible belt, much worst than Al-Queda or the Taliban because of their stealth agenda in forcing other Americans to live by their standards. At least Al-Queda and the Taliban does it overtly and lets you know what it is they want.

Americans Taliban try to legislate morals and biblical crap like Inteligent Design, defense of marriage act and so on.

no name calling   July 29th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

You guys just keep fighting with each other.

joe magarzatz   July 29th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

Senator Voinovich is absolutely correct! The best way to defeat the Republicans is to continue sending more Jim DeMint types to continue sending Jim DeMint to the Senate. Elections for the Presidency and congressional majorities will favor the Democrats for years to come.

Vitter should be more conservative about his marriage!

Tom McCarey   July 29th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

Standing on the sideline quite enjoying the trainwreck that is the Republican party. No dissension allowed appears to be the GOP's party drawl. Let them continue the self-evisceration. Btw, is it true New Hampshire's very own Sen. Gregg has been taking elocution lessons from Foghorn Leghorn?

Angela   July 29th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

Vitter thinks that the GOP lost that last election so badly because they weren't conservative enough? REALLY??

2012 is going to be a Democratic sweep.

J   July 29th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

Voinovich says:
Southern man better keep your head
Don't forget what your good book said
Southern change gonna come at last
Now your crosses are burning fast

Vitter:
A southern man don't need him around anyhow

B   July 29th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

It”s not just about the South senator, it is about the GOPs total lack of talent, ideas, policy, creativity, and true understanding of CURRENT American attitudes about ISSUES that concern this country!

It is about trying to win at any cost with a bunch of angry Old white men that should retire.

brad   July 29th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

I would like Vitter to explain more about how they strayed away from the core values. What values are those? I think Voinovich is correct. But he should add the far right christian involvement as well.

Scott the Independent   July 29th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

I guess next they'll be raising the confederate flag............

The Joker   July 29th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

Let's see... which of the two has more credibility?

George Voiovich was arguably the best mayor Cleveland has had in modern times, he was a very good governor of Ohio, and he has been a good Senator for the citizens of Ohio. He has always been a man of honor and integrity.

David Vitter was involved in a prostitution scandal.

Enough said.

Horacio Guerra   July 29th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

The Republicans are the party of no progress, no solutions, hatred and if you paid ANY attention to the Sotomayor hearings the party of racism. This nation, if not the entire world, is on the verge of total collapse thanks to the Bush/Cheney era and all their supporting brethen. Wall Street, Insurance Companies, Bank CEO's, Hospitals, Pharmacuetical Companies and the AMA are all in cohoots with these evildoers. They'll lie, cheat, and steal to keep their status quo i.e. their bonuses, multi homes/cars, above average helth care and jobs. Enough is enough. The Grahams, Sessions, Palins, Buchanons, Limbaughs along with the entire FOX News anchors need to be sent to Afganasthan and be embedded-DEEPLY- with the troops.

Pat   July 29th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

For you liberals who are about to jump on and try to link conservative values to social conservatives read this: A conservative is a fiscal conservative, believes in sound money, believes in individual and economic liberty, strictly interprets the Constitution, believes in the rule of law and believes in a strong national defense. It has no correlation to race, creed or sexual preference. Conservatism is about freedom.

Fool me once shame on u, fool me twice err...   July 29th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values,"

Values you can believe in – they come in handy when a Democrat takes office huh!

Sen. Voinovich, teach these southerners who are stealing your party a lesson; vote with the Democrats on health reform and all other future bills before you retire. Yea, that should teach them something.

Justine   July 29th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

Voinovich, Snowe, and Hutchison are the only sane Republicans. And two of them are leaving. Should be fun.

Luke Brown   July 29th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

Earth to GOP: Unless you have completely abandoned your family values shtick, I would suggest someone other than Vitter as your national spokesman.

xargaw   July 29th, 2009 2:51 pm ET

The fact that Senator Vitter is still a Senator is an embarrassment to the body of Senate. This man talking about values of any kind is an insult. He is proof how far the Senate has fallen and, yet, he continues to hold his seat. Add that to what we are learning about the C-Street gang and it isn't any wonder why the country is in such a mess with these self-serving cretins in charge.

Butch Dillon   July 29th, 2009 2:51 pm ET

Now that Vitter has chosen to place himself front and center before the people of America, let's take the opportunity to ask him a few questions about marital fidelity. It doesn't matter how many questions he's asked, as long as we can resolve his wishy-washy stance on the marital vows he took in front of his god. And let's try to gain an understanding about why he only admitted his illicit affairs after he was outed. George Voicnivich seems to be supporting a position that benefits the American people while Mr. Vitter's engagement was for the benefit of his own member.

Melissa   July 29th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Vitter, I'm ashamed that you are a voice for Louisiana when you should be crawling back into the bayou that you came out of like a good little reptile. You obviously don't care about anyone but yourself, your party, and allowing the rich to get richer.

Jack Jodell, Minneapolis, MN   July 29th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

We've had just about enough lip out of that mouthy degenerate Vitter!

AC   July 29th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Hahaha, so moderate is a dirty word now too. Incredible.

david   July 29th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

First salvos in the Republican Civil War that we've all seen coming? "Errr, errr...."

rolandotx2   July 29th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

It's bad enough that Voinovich shot his mouth off but why does Vitter think he needs to chime in? Shut up and work together to keep the communists on the other side from completely tanking our country

Dennis   July 29th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Vitter comes from the third most corrupt state in Union. Other southern states follow right behind Louisiana. If southern politicians have lost their shine–it's more due to the corruption than obviously bad ideas. Afterall, Americans are accustomed to 'stupidly' politicians.
The whole affair sings out the need for elimination of the two-party system. The more diverse we become as a nation–the more the need for a multiplicity of ideas to be represented in the political process.

John C   July 29th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

The GOP image problem is because they say one thing and do another as party, not individuals. They had complete control of Congress and the presidency and did they reduce Government size, reduce spending, make an amendment about gay marrage, challange abortion,balance the budget, put less government in your life? No, these are just what they say they are for to get votes. Given complet control they did nothing on any of these "values", Just empty talk.

Luke Brown   July 29th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

Americans get what Voinovich is saying.

Southern senators have two political bases ... evangelicals and country clubbers. The message that works for both groups is to be against government and anything it tries to do (except cutting the taxes of the wealthy).

These senators are ideologues, not problem-solvers. They are obstructionists, nothing more. The GOP is dead with them and dead without them.

PJ   July 29th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

The last time I checked, Mr. Voinovich, people from the South still have the right to vote...at least until Obama, Pelosi, and Reid change it so we can't. Nobody is crowing about the West (left) Coast and the Northeast states taking over the Dem Party. Yes, the South still takes an underserved beating over racism....I know there will be a thousand posts to that effect. I do not think the Rodney King beating happened in Louisiana and I'm pretty sure there are no Harvard professors being arrested in Mississippi.

Mike in Oahu   July 29th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

Southern Baptist/Evangelical influence is predominant amongst the Southern states and therefore greatly influences who they seat in their elections. It's not the politicians fault so much as its' the voters...thats who they pick.

Gimme that old timey religion...

here we go   July 29th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

love it, now they are at each others throats!!!! Maybe some of it is true, but seriously doubt that it represents "all southners". I travel to Alabama twice a year and find the people there quite nice. Every section of the country has its rednecks not just the south.. I think the comments are frustration on the party itself, it is lost and trying to find excuses why it is lost....

joe magarzatz   July 29th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

Senator George Voinovich is absolutely right! I am a registered Democrat from a democratic stronghold and have always voted for him as a candidate for Governor and for Senator.

I hope that the south continues to win with the "fruitloop" type Republicans that they have now. This will give the Democrats the lock for the next two generations.

NYC   July 29th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

You mean Vitter is now the spokesman for values and Republican party? Please!!!

Slappy White   July 29th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

"They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr . . .'

.......ToO fUnNy......

pinkkiwi6   July 29th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

What can Vitter really say about "core Republican values" when he goes and sleeps with prostitutes? I'm not saying all Republicans are immoral, but they need to back off their high horses and stop attacking moderates and liberals. There needs to be better discourse between the two parties in order to get anything done- as a very smart Wingnuts article put it, it's un-American to call diagreement un-American.

Tired   July 29th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

He's right!!

Doug in New Mexico   July 29th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

Well, when the neck is red wear it proud.
What is wrong with these guys? They don't ever say what they mean and don't mean what they say. Just bash the other guy. Wow!

Mark Mumford   July 29th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

It is the close-minded, all-or-nothing, my way or highway stance by those in congress that limits the progress of our nation. Dragging policy off to the far right or left only causes problems, like driving with two wheels off the pavement. It doesn't matter where someone comes from, if you're only legislating with a negative agenda, you're not helping the country.

rick   July 29th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

lol, Vitter calling people out on values.

Oh, nevermind- he said they had gone away from those.

I am The Great and Powerful Wizard of Rush   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Vitter's "core conservative values" have nothing to do with his cavorting with prostitutes.

Watching Republics fight is more fun than demolition derby.

Harriett   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Well, we all know what Vitter's core "conservative" values include. Do the Republicans really want this guy going after a moderate Republican?

John carter   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Voinovich is exactly correct. I hope the Republicans take years to figure this out.....The Dirty Old South is alive and well!!!

Dennis   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Perhaps David Vitter should rethink the reasons they lost. The American people knows. He seems to be clueless.

Laura   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Exactly what "values" is David Vitter claiming to have these days? I must have missed that part. Perhaps I'll contact his wife to ask ...

John Small   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Voinovich is one of the few Republicans I've heard of who actually gets it when it comes to people like Coburn. On behalf of a lot of us here in Oklahoma who didn't vote for the guy, I'd like to apologize to the rest of the nation for inflicting Tom Coburn on you and assure you that it wasn't our idea.

Anonymous   July 29th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Southern Republicans have no real answers to the big picture problems that face our country. Their political bases are the country club crowd and evangelicals ... and the way the deal with both is to be against government.

They are against everything and solving problems is not on the agenda. That political philosophy works in the South, but is grossly irresponsible in a national context.

Voters across the country get what Senator Voinovich is saying.

Frank Oneil   July 29th, 2009 2:44 pm ET

What a pathetic bunch! How about you guys lost because of your hypocrisy and incompetence. And what value are you refrring to exactly Vitter? What a sad sad party!!!

HAWK, TEXAS   July 29th, 2009 2:44 pm ET

And just why is david vitter not behind bars where he belongs. solititation of sex is a crime. yet he walked away clean. also the death of the so called madam in this case was never investigated. could it have been a cover up crime.

Bernardo   July 29th, 2009 2:44 pm ET

Most of the Republican Senators are Southerners. Cut and dry. They would defend the Conderate flag before they would defend the flag of the United States. I think they got the butts kicked once back in 1865.

GaVoter   July 29th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

Funny how everyone hates the south.., until they move here for a job or retirement.

David   July 29th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

The war is about to begin! These are the shots over the bows. The GOP has been taken over by neo-cons. They now realize that they must change for survival. Too bad most people don't realize the two-party system is a scam anyway. A puppet show brought to us by Murdoch, Soros, Kissinger, Rockefeller, etc.

Emma   July 29th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

Is this the same David "Affair" Vitter? Yes, David, you and your ilk do have values although not the type currently desired by the American people.

Ed, Santa Fe, NM   July 29th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

better "wishy washy" than SLIMY

Lisa P   July 29th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

"Errrr, errrrr..." And so Vitter proved Voinovich's point. Thanks Senator Vitter! See you in the permanent minority! If you make it through your next election, that is :-)

chuck   July 29th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Godbye, Vitter.....next election you'll be history. Then you'll be free to indulge in your little sexual escapades with prostitures as much as you want, wife permitting, that is,

Reformed Republican   July 29th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Hey Vitter – Your "escort" is on line one and wants to know what hotel room your in and the Grand Wizard is on line two wanting to know if you can make the cross burning tonight.

CF   July 29th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Only to the craziest, most mindless members of the GOP is the term "moderate" a bad thing. Enough with the extremism, GOP. Start caring about ALL Americans, not just those in your tiny personal bubbles.

Vicky from Milwaukee   July 29th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

When did moderate become a dirty word?

Scott, Tucson   July 29th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Seems that the problem we have in Washington is too many lawyers in office.

Lisa P   July 29th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

"Errrr, errrrr..." And so Vitter proved Voinovich's point. Thanks Senator Vitter! See you in the permanent minority!

Chris Baker, Tucson   July 29th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values."

Weren't family values supposed to be part of the core conservative values? If so, isn't it a bit hypocritical for an adulterer to say this?

Allen Hussein   July 29th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

With all the scandals in the Republican Party, being with a hooker wearing diapers shows that Vitter is right in the mainstream in holding "core conservative values."

Jaz   July 29th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

"Core conservative values?" Is that like "family values?" The ones that say you should not cheat on your spouse? Clearly, Vitter does not subscribe to those values. He is just another GOP hypocrite.

Dan from Ohio   July 29th, 2009 2:40 pm ET

Senator Vitter upholds those real conserative values like using call girls. Jimmy " I have sinned" Swaggert is probably his hero. Must be a "Southern Thing".

Kevin in Ohio   July 29th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

Thankfully, Voinovich is on his way out. Looking forward to a new, TRUE conservative, senator from Ohio next year.

Stacy from Leesburg, VA   July 29th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

George Voinovich is stating the problem that is quickly becoming evident for the GOP. Moderate Republicans in the Northeast, the American west and other parts of America outside of the South are getting shut out of the “Good Old-Boys Party”. Those who believe in compromise and discussion are getting blasted by those who scream, rant, and yell. Congratulations on becoming a marginalized regional party (McConnell’s words, not mine).

Steph   July 29th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

Good luck with that Vitter. Your party is getting smaller and smaller.

Tom   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

So remind me:
What exactly are "core conservative values," how are conservatives practicing them, and why are they good for anyone other than the very rich and/or the desires of the religious right?
Sen. Vitter has sided with big energy companies and tax breaks for the wealthy, and has voted against energy assistance to the neediest homeowners in America and against funding for organizations in favor or birth control (not abortion, birth control, although he of course is anti-abortion in all of his votes) including voting against a bill to spend $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives....
"Conservative values." Yeah, right.
Very right.

Renee   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Voinovich is right. We don't want the bible belt running the country.

eric   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

yes, those core conservative values including extra-marital affairs.

ComicPro   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Cant say I don't agree witht he good Senator from Ohio. The GOP is scared to death of the ever changing face of America and I noticed during the national campaign last year the frightened, fear mongering rhetoric they aspoused. That is why Sarah "knucles" Palin is such a disease that no one wants to touch. She had her 15 minutes and even now is not smart enough to realize that 15 minutes is up. The GOP is an old antiquated version of the lonely woman who has lost her looks but is holding on for hope of a miracle. The fat lady is in deep bass right now. Game over.

Steve Maciolek   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

I love when life serves up a delicious curve ball of irony, as with Sen. Vitter claims of core conservative values. Considering his questionable values and perosnal indiscretions, him; of all people, should reconsider or as our President has suggested "re-calibrate" his words more carefully. Frequenting madam's and prostitutes does not constitute core-conservative values. (I don't think?)

See what you're doing   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

So tell us Mr. Vitter, just what are your "core conservative values"? Is it running up the debt under a Republican president? Is it trashing the Constitution in the name of security? Is it family values while committting acts that degrade same? Is it states rights unless it disagrees with you? Really, just what are conservative values?

Eric   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Conservative values...like "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran? Cheat on your wife while living in a Christian fellowship house? Lie about weapons of Mass destruction to make a profit for your industry buddies? Gut the economy? Invade our privacy

What exactly are they conserving?

bob   July 29th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Oh the hypocrisy. Vitter should have put a sock in it. He is not one to be talking from a position of moral latitude or credibility.

Just goes to prove Voinovich's comment.

Michael   July 29th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

when did the term 'moderate' become bad? and can Sen. Vitter please detail his core values....because I know he moderated on the adultery one.

Regressive Party Refugee (former republican)   July 29th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

Boy, it didn't take long to organize the circular firing squad. Woe betide the republican moderate who speaks their mind, even if he was right as rain that they are the ruin of the republican party.

They benefited most from the republican creation and sponsorship of the culture war that beget their brand of religio-fascism that scares the crap out of any moderately thinking constituent. Ye sow what ye reap – that was Voinovich's main point. But of course, in true conservative fashion the right-wing nuts will divert attention from the main point with the time worn tactic of attacking with an out-of-context excerpt, in this case to portray him as perpetuating the caricature of the drawling Southerner.

Ben Raskin   July 29th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

David Vitter calling someone wishy-washy? This from a man who beds with hookers and is a part of the most corrupt and illicit group of quasi-religious (if you call the C Street philosophy of "Men of Power" religion and not fascism) is questionable at the very least. Perhaps Voinovich was a bit harsh in condemning "Southerners" – he should of said Ultra-right wing Republicans, they come from under rocks all around this country – not just the South, but his general point was dead on.

The Republican party can continue down this path of ignorance and exclusion as long as they like. Just look at the dwindling number of people willing to call themselves Republican to see where this path will lead them. In a country becoming more pluralistic and diverse with each passing day, these racial/religio centric fools are doomed. The light of truth is beginning to shine more brightly on their ways and means – the American people will not accept this as a means to lead this country forward in the real world.

R in Maine   July 29th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

Vitter is just a piece of garbage. He thinks that he has the right to determine what health care other people have a right to. He is the cowardly form of an arrogant republican. The rank an file should take him out so that he does not permanently damage his party.

Klow   July 29th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

These people are absolutely crazy! They really have a problem with sticking to substantive issues. They would rather discuss things like how people are scared of Sarah Palin (who has absolutely no power, remember she and McCain lost), proposing legislation to force Obama to make a formal apology to Sergeant James Crowley, the birther's claiming Obama is an illegal alien, etc., etc. What next, Obama is really an alien from Mars and has his UFO secretly stashed away in Roswell, New Mexico. Maybe the Republicans should get their own house in order and then attempt to sell this ridiculous nonsense to the American people.

Laverne   July 29th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

Yea, just too bad you so called "conservatives" couldn't find the guts to voice your opinions and stand up to Dick Cheney and George Bush. You all are a bunch of spineless cowards!

sean   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," Vitter told the Washington Times.. and that includes a prostitute or two, right? These guys are so full of it. Vitter has no validity, he should have resigned.

Bill, Bloominton IL   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

To Voinovich: Good Bye and thanks for playing. Maybe you could be the next Arlen Spector. Since you dont like southerners, (I am from Illinois) you call pal around with the smart people from the north. Maybe Palin and Gingrich?

dave   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

If getting back to core conservative values is really what your about, why have we not heard from you on the conduct of other republicans who stray.?
Why not public outcry and ask them to resign their republican positions
If the best you folks can do is have Rush as your spokesman and Palin as a canidate , and who was the senitor who messed around with the helps wife? Oh yea you republicans are the truely christian people.
Instead of being a spokesman for one religion ,try being supportave of all the people.
Just keep up with what your doing during the next election, you will be a smaller minority.

Angie in Pa   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

So according to this far right nut Moderates are WISHY-WASHY Then they wonder why they cant get the North East or Mid Atlantic most of those people are Wishy Washy moderates what a Joke!

CK   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

I dislike the the right wingers like Vitter, I am proud to be a moderate Republican, at least I am willing to work across the aisle and get things done! Guess Sen. VItter isn't one who is "wishy-washy" when it comes to making up his mind, espcially when it comes to cheating on his wife. Hope you lose next time Sen. Vitter, I'd rather a moderate in your place!

Napoleon Complex   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

Glad to see the Republican further marginalizing themselves. Apparently they still don't realize that their predecessors lost the Civil War 150 years ago and that Americans are tired of be held back by their antiquated way of thinking. The more they reveal themselves as the successors of secessionists and segregationists, the less support they’re receive in the years ahead. But, I hope they keep it up because America is much better off without them in power.

Jimmy Carter   July 29th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Some of my best friends are Southerners.

jmg   July 29th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Yeah Dave, I suppose those values include cheating on your wife with a prostitute. I bet you also supported GWB while he increased the size of givernment more than LBJ too. What a hypocrite.

James, Ho. TX   July 29th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Sen. Voinovich, don't look now but your "Conservative Values" are showing. It's been 4 yrs since "CATRINA" with no improvement near, from You nor G.W. and all the G.O.P. Cronies. But, You haven't missed a PayCheck yet ! Is that right Cousin?

Stuart L. Riley   July 29th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

What values is Vitter talking about?

The Republican party has not yet understood that they lost the last election because Americans switched from voting according to their "values" to voting the value of their 401Ks.

(To be fair, we're also watching the Dems to make sure they tow the line.)

But, the Reps just keep hanging on to fringe issues that don't matter much to those who are unemployed, uninsured, or just too underpaid to afford the same life-style these politicos have become accustomed to.

Glad to hear some level-headed Reps trying regain some sense in the party. I hope Voinovich and those like him keep pushing to make the changes necessary to make the party great again.

Rob Johnson   July 29th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

It's amazing to me that so many Republicans actually believe the fairy tale that the reason they lost so badly in 2008 is because they weren't conservative ENOUGH.

If they want to base their game plan on that faulty assumption, they are welcome to do so. However, I have a hunch that 8 years of GOP incompetence in the White House was the real reason they got slammed last year.

Owen   July 29th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

I have no problem with what Voinovich said, save for the regionalization of it. The staunch conservative Senators all happen to be southern and western, but that doesn't mean people from those areas are that way. Only 50.1% need to be to elect these guys.

The larger problem is that Congress as a whole seems more interested in serving the needs of their big money donors than their constituents.

Steve   July 29th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

People are not doing their research. Other than Romney and McCain candidates were from the South and were Southern Baptists. McCain attended a Baptist Church in Arizona and Romney is a Mormon.
Want to say now that the South is not in control of the Republican
Party except the Republican Central Committee which seems have gone adrift in a different direction on its own.
Don't think you can blame them for seizing contol except I do not think you can blame them for being tired of being used by the remainder of the Republican Party in the North and West for 40 years.

Karen   July 29th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

I hold Senator Tom Coburn in very high regard. I'm sure he makes some of the other politicians uncomfortable as he holds their feet to the fire on excessive spending.

Ronald Schwartz   July 29th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

The south has more freedom then the rest of the country,especially when it comes to the second amendment . and gov interferance. I lived in Mich,born and raised in Ind. and I wouldn't travel to the east coast Wisc, Ill, or cal, because of there laws
The republicans need to learn from the southern reps. Wash, and obama don't even have a clue to what American freedom is all about.

shucks   July 29th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

I couldn't agree with Voinovich more. The southern right wing evangelicals are destroying an otherwise noble party. Also the fact that they don't live what they preach is as hypocritical as it gets.

Peoples Voice   July 29th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

The South isn't called the bible belt for nothing. It's all the bible thumping, we are better than you and God is going to send you to Hell for disagreeing with us morons who are ruining the GOP.

They need to get these disgusting people back into their churches and out of the halls of government.

Gary of El Centro, Ca   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

Does the GOP really want Vitter out there talking about "values".......really?

just joe   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

...what was the name of that political party these guys were talking about?......was it called the "Do Nothings" or the "Know Nothings?"
Thank God ( if it is still allowed), it they couldn't jaw about each other, there would be nothing else to talk about, now would there?

Where is John Adams when we need him?

Mike Ft Collins , CO   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

Voinovich was correct and Vitter of all people is not the spokesperson to challenge what was said.

chelle   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

See Vitter doesn't get it – Republicans didn't used to be ONLY socially conservative people. He is actually making Voinovich's point for him. If Republicans continue to see themselves as "you are socially conservative or NOT a Republican" they will fade away quickly to a regional party of the South with pockets spread hither and yon across the US. Such blindness and narrow-mindedness are simply staggering....

Clint Lynnwood Wa.   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

The whole GOP party is wishy-washy.

kay   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

Core conservative values??? Like.....frequenting a prostitute in New Orleans and being made happy while wearing a diaper? Who does he think HE'S Kidding. Does he have even the faintest glimmer of an idea of how ridiculous he sounds???

CJ/PA   July 29th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

What - sputter - what?? David Vitter talking about getting back to conservative family values??? Maybe he should move to C Street - – he'd fit right in! It's a shave so many of these hypocrites are from the South - gives The South a bad name!

Steve, Chelsea, MI   July 29th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

Because if anyone has conservative values, it's Senator David "Escort Service" Vitter.

ETM   July 29th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

Republicans have performed badly in recent years because of their ignorance and incompetence, neither of which is a core conservative value. Vitter is just another example of a right-wing demagogue who manipulates the fears and bigotries of poorly educated Southern whites to get into office.

austin   July 29th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

Hearing Vitter talk about values is hillarious – he obviously needs to spend som emore time with his prostitution connections.

Former Republican   July 29th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

Does that mean "family values"? Or perhaps "Staying the course"?

Kevin   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Yeah Vitter, lets get back to the good ole days of the Southern Hang'em High republicans. Those core values are discriminatory at best and brings to mind the likes of Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Haley Barbour, Trent Lott, Good Old Governor Wallace "Segregation yesterday today and forever" Yeah come on with the Good Old Souther Republican perspective. We look forward to it.

Richard   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

"There are a lot of us from the South who hold those values, which I think the party is supposed to be about. We strayed from them in the past few years, and that's why we performed so badly in the national elections."

- I think they should stray from those "values" more often, they might do better in national elections.

jake1969   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Vitter?? He's still around? Do those core conservative values include seeing prostitutes? I guess so...in case anyone forgot, this is the guy caught up in the DC Madame scandal.

Funny, conservative hypocrisy continues...

Hugo   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

He must be mistaken the errrrr, errrrr, uh speech pattern is already taken and dominated by President Obama! If yankee's don't like southerners, why have they moved to the south in droves and insisted on ruining our way of life? This guy Voinovich must be a racist targeting someone for their place of birth, think of what is next, what if they were black or hispanic, next thing you'll see is a Senator from New York that can't even master the english language, oh wait!

george from alaska   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

the most ridiculous thing about the current republican party is the notion that if you aren't one then you are going straight to holy roller hell.

i like my religion straight...not watered down, distorted & blasphemed by goose stepping republican lemmings who practically ran us all over the cliff. thank God the majority wised up and kicked them out on their rear end.

roger   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

So I suppose those core conservative values include being embroiled in a scandal involving a madam and brothel? Thanks Republicans for proving once again how stupid you are and that you have no footing on which to make an argument about anything involving values.

Vince   July 29th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

The republican party continues to infight and fracture, insuring their dwindling irrelevance.
Here's my prediction. The fiscally conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats will fracture off, drawing in those Republicans that are socially liberal but fiscally conservative, as well as a chunk of the moderates. The remaining Democratic party will still be significant (equally so?) and will also draw in those moderates that don't see investment in the country as a bad thing. The Republican party will still exist, consisting primarily of the ultra-conservative Evangelical extreme-right wingers. They may steal some votes from the Blue Dogs, but nothing terribly significant. They will likely continue to hold a few seats in Congress (in some conservative districts) but will no longer have relevant Presidential candidates. It may even pave the way for some of the other minor parties to grab a couple of congressional seats. And thus, a departure from our two party system will be born!

Gill   July 29th, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Everything is hurting the republican party. Mostly getting the reputation of the Party of "NO!"

jfs Memhis, Tn   July 29th, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Coming from the South and being a white Moderate.....I can not think of any Republican Sen who can represent the Southern GOP better than Vitter. His outstanding family values that have been slightly compromised by expensive call girls(HOOKERS) depicts the many hypocrites that call themslves Republicans and Christians down here. NOT ALL Southern Conservatives are of the same mold.....but unfortunately Vitter and the rest of the Southern GOP have been elected as the spokes persons of the NEW ????? South. Just as the DEMs have liberal nuts cases the Republicans have the Ultra Right. It is just that there are so many concentrated in one Georapic area.

Chris from NY   July 29th, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Which values is he talking about? The same God that said thou shall not commit adultery also said thou shall look at a woman lustfully. The God that said thou shall not kill also said thou shall not hate thy brother. Which values do you hold Mr. Vitter that is all that different from American value which preaches to love thy neighbour as thyself? You pontifcating freak.

Frank   July 29th, 2009 2:29 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," Vitter told the Washington Times.

Would those core conservative values include marital fidelity?

Bob   July 29th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

I guess those conservative "core values" include frequenting prostitutes. Vitter is just another shameless moron.

Hannah   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

I am surprised that David Vitter could pry himself away from hookers long enough to make these inane comments. So I guess if George Voinovich espoused Family Values, Christianity, and "traditional" marriage while patronizing a prostitution ring, that would serve to make him less "wishy-washy"? Seriously, this guy could not be more irrelevant.

Barbara   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Democrats don't need to go on the attack to further weaken the Republican brand. They're doing it to each other! All we need do is sit back and watch the last gasps of the party.

George L   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

I am hoping the Republicans continue to coalesce in the south. At least we will know where they all are. The south and that party deserve each other. Southern superstition and hypocrisy are perfect for the Grand No Party. No gays. No minorities. No immigrants. No religious tolerance. No power.

mrut   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

David Vitter's "core conservative values" include cheating on his wife with prostitutes. Hypocrisy seems to be another "core conservative value."

Realistic   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Core conservative values? What are they? The problem is that the republicans always talk about conservative values and how they need to get back to those values. They talk and talk about it when they are out of power and trying to regain power but once they get in power, they get amnesia and forget all about conservative values and fiscal restraint. They will say and promise anything to get into power and once they get the power, they go back to their old way, give to the rich and take from the poor.

Bev   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Bill Clinton was from Arkansas. Jimmy Carter was from Georgia. The North versus South bit is old. People who criticize the south have never been there. Cost of living is low. People are friendly, nice, and get along. Quality of life is high. All races get along equally without all the political nonsense. I've lived in the north, south, east, west and overseas....the south is hands down the nicest place I've been.

Zero.   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Seems like more Socialism at work....

Respect   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Reagan, Bush 1 & 2 left the country in the largest recorded debts ever. We don't need their type of fiscal responsibility.

dave johnson   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

When you're ready to retire "down south", Sen. Voinovich, be sure to put out a press release so we (take your pick; southerners, rednecks, crackers, etc) can be sure to hold a welcoming party for you!

Joe Doctor, Austin   July 29th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Back to their "core conservative values"? That (and a bunch of sex scandals) is why they lost in the last election. It has nothing to do with them straying more center. The farther from the center they slide, the fewer people will vote for them.

Shame is that they are more loyal to "The GOP" than they are to their fellow Americans. Southerners do have core values, but they're also pragmatic enough to row away from the rocks.

ChicagoJim   July 29th, 2009 2:26 pm ET

Vitter is certainly not wishy-washy in his hypocrisy. This so-called "family values" man who professes a belief in the "sanctity of marriage" had a very definite, non-wishy-washy old time with a prostitute. Throw him out with the trash.

LG - the G is for Gonzalez   July 29th, 2009 2:26 pm ET

Is this guy joking? Vitter is the post boy for what's totally wrong with the Republican party today! This is the same David Vitter involved in a sex scandal, and somehow still stayed in office? For Vitter to slam a fellow Republican who's calling it like he sees it, is outrageously ludicrous! Today's Republicans get what they deserve! They sowed the seeds of their demise with their psuedo homespun gab and dangerous alliances (the so-called Christian Right) a long time ago. George Vionovich, a Republican who finally had the nads to see through the smoke and mirrors of the GOP.
Vitter, on the other hand, is nothing more than what our British friends would call, a wanker.

Shorn   July 29th, 2009 2:26 pm ET

There's no such thing as conservative values. They have never cared about fiscal responsibility, they never saw a weapon they wouldn't buy, they have no trouble legislating their way into the bedroom, they couldn't care less about working Americans, and they bend over for any corporation that might fill their coffers. They are unprincipled hypocrites who run up massive deficits, then blame Democrats for them. They lost control of the government because they are corrupt, lying sacks of crap and the average voter finally figured it out. Certainly not every problem can be laid at their feet, but the conservative agenda going back to Reagan has been put into place and this is the world we ended up with.

Lori, Houston Texas   July 29th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

Gotta love it – Vitter still talking about family values despite his penchant for hookers and diapers. Don't these people get it? They have no credibility on family values.

The conservatives have made it clear they choose Party Before Country as the far right wingers fight with the semi-reasonable repubs.

Keep it up, folks, you can't win an election without the independents and y'all saw what happened on 11/4/08.

Bless their hearts....

S M R   July 29th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

Core Conservitive values like deregulation, in bed with the special intrest groups, creating war for GOP profit and tax breaks for the rich is not going to fly anymore.

JN   July 29th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

These Republicans love the taste of their own. They are so much a fractured party with no vision for a positive future or a practical future at all. Led by Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Gingrich, and Southern hypocrites...they are certainly the party of gloom and doom.

MD   July 29th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

Wow... If I didn't know better I'd think we were back in the Civil War. North vs. South. Moderate vs. Conservative. Are you kidding me???. How about putting your heads down and getting health care reform done.

Ted Regencia   July 29th, 2009 2:25 pm ET

What conservative values is Vitter talking about? The values of cheating on your wife with a prostitute?

Gettysburg Revisited   July 29th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

Its time to finish off these rednecks and show them why America is not flying the Stars and Bars.

pat c   July 29th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

isn't this the same republican that had his own set of extra marital problems last year? i guess he has forgotten his disgrace since his wife forgave him. just another two-faced bible thumping do as i say not as i do kinda guy!

Ace   July 29th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

Just what are conservative core values? The GOP seems to have abandoned the central tenents which appealled to so many people. Lower taxes, small government, less intrusion on the lives of citizens? Ha. Their inability to follow their own promises is what caused me to vote for Obama. When the GOP returns to their stated goals, I might consider going back.

John, OH   July 29th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

Are you talking about Conservative values like getting involve in DC Madam Sex scandal Senator?

Patricio   July 29th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

Does Vitter realize that he is the poster child of Republicans straying from the their values?

Mitchell   July 29th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

"a moderate, really wishy-washy???" Vitter seems to forget that back when the Republican Party first emerged, they were the moderate left to the Democrats. Does he not know the history of his own party? How can we take politicians seriously anymore if they're so ignorant?

Boob McNutt   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

I live in the South; they believe in ghosts and haunts and think black people are the cursed children of Cain, intended by God to be slaves. They think we fought Germany in the Civil War and England in WWII. They also eat roadkill and vote for chumps like Sonny Purdue and Lester Maddox. Nice people, in their impeded way, but not the ones you want picking out electronic equipment or making educational decisions. If you want fried chicken, this is the place, but if you want informed opinions, go North. My hometown newspaper says Obama is a Kenyan who is part of a Zionist plot to turn us all into Muslim Hindu Mormons and put all the women in burkhas after they have abortions and turn feminist.

BudInTexas   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," Vitter told the Washington Times. "There are a lot of us from the South who hold those values, which I think the party is supposed to be about. We strayed from them in the past few years, and that's why we performed so badly in the national elections." says Vitter; the same guy that holds the value of humping prostitutes, while his wife is at work.

What a scumbag.

Howard   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

Great. Let the conservatives have their core values. The only question is how long will the moderates tolerate being treated like pariahs in their own party before they decide to bolt. It's becoming increasing apparent we would do well to discard party labels like Democrats and Republicans, and instead create a Liberal Party, a Centrist Party, and a Conservative Party. Too many good people seem wedded to the parents' political party without regard for the fact that it doesn't really represent them.

Bit   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

Forget this story. Is anyone going to report on Tennessee Republican Sen. Paul Stanley-you know-the one that's resigning because of an affair witha 22 year old? Does he also belong to the C-Street Gang?

Just wondering.

ROBERT   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

I also feel the same way. Church views is not the main issue now.

Blue   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

Who on earth would listen to Vitter? He has done himself in with his own actions. He is not worth listening to.

John   July 29th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

Vitter's right: he does espouse conservative values. He just can't live by them.

hadelaide   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

So conservative he was that his number was in the DC Madam's black book. So conservative that the deficit exploded. So conservative that the country got embroiled in 2 wars with war profiteers getting lucrative no-bid contracts without oversight. He may think that conservative is the cutest word but it has become the symbol of extreme hypocrisy!

Dutch/Bad Newz, VA   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

South + Republican + Conservative = Recipe for disaster.

Blue Oasis   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

Vitter is firm (pun intended) on conservative values except the one that says once you're married flings with prostitutes aren't permitted.

Nathan Wortinger   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

I just love watching the Repulican Party Implode!!! Keep it up guys!!! Your doing great!!!

phoenix86   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

I grew up in northeastern Ohio. I saw first hand what happens when unions and big government get out of control. If you look at the data, the "blue states" receive more government money than they pay in – i.e. they are welfare states.

The southern states and the western states (California excepted) are the only thing keeping this country economically viable. Unfortunately, Obama, Pelosi, Reid et. all are working hard to ensure that the southern states go to ruin like the northern and midwestern states.

Not Batting an Eye   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

I beleive Voinovich since he has nothing to gain or lose. He is not running for re-election. I wouldn't trust Vitter as far as I could throw him.

P. D.   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

If I were Vitter, I would say nothing. Leave it up to other Republicans to speak up. Vitter has scandal written all over him. Why he didn't resign after the Madame controversy is beyond me. The infidelities of the Republican Party will bring it down.

Duck Fallas   July 29th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

Vitter used to order a "wishy washy" with a happy ending- so he knows what he's talking about.

Conservative values!!

MikeH   July 29th, 2009 2:20 pm ET

I wonder if Voinovich was speaking in racial profiling code, the Republican party is being taken over by red-neck, hillbilly, dumb-as-a-tree-stump Klansmen (Willy Brown, TCM).

Maher is right, if you're a racist, you're probably a Republican.

Chai-wallah   July 29th, 2009 2:20 pm ET

While you guys are at it; why not allow Rush and a few other like mineded candidates join your party as well?

You need more Sara Palin, Rush etc.

Todd (not the Alaska Separatist)   July 29th, 2009 2:20 pm ET

Senator Vitter, do those "core" Republican values include consorting with prostitutes? Southern man, better keep your head, Don't forget
what your good book said .......

Joshua R.   July 29th, 2009 2:20 pm ET

"Core conservative values." Hmmmm...does that include monogamy, Senator Diaper Dave?

CHANGE.COM   July 29th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

What's really wishy-washy is you, conservative wife-cheating senator, who enjoys the company and services of prostitues, but comes out in public agaist their services. Sen. Voinovich speaks for millions of Americans, and know what? He is right and you are dead wrong!

GOP = 21st century dodo   July 29th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Ugh I feel sorry for the other people in that picture. Being seen in public with the likes of Vitter or DeMint would be like walking around with soiled britches.

Dan   July 29th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

David Vitter's core conservative values include cheating on his wife with hookers. If he's the mouthpiece for the Southern GOP that just proves Voinovich right,

AndrewMc   July 29th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Hahahaha. Vitter says he wants to get back to "core conservative values."

Priceless.

J.P.   July 29th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Let's face facts, Yankees. The South and SouthWest are where business and investment dollars are headed. The South and SouthWest are were the biggest influx of Yankee migrants are headed.

Why? Because we in the South won't punish you for your work ethic or your motivation. Yankee states (that includes you too CA) have never met a tax they didn't like.

There is a very good reason we refer to the midwest as the Rust Belt, and it has little to do with highway rock salt.

AN   July 29th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

Wow, really Vitter is the last person in the world you'd want on your team espousing conservative "values" and calling others wishy washy.

Terry   July 29th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

I left the Republican Party in 2008 because I felt the party had lost focus and leadership. I now find it interesting that the RNC is pouring money into approximately fifteen Congressional Contests for the 2010 Elections. This tells me that they are already seeing loyal Republican Voters in those districts leaning away from the party. Frankly, I do not care who is in charge, they need a "Top Down Makeover".

Jimmy   July 29th, 2009 2:17 pm ET

The southern philosophy – keep them needy and stupid. Believe me, as a resident of TX I see what the butchers do to the educational system in this state. And the majority of the brain dead republican voters just follow like sheep because they too believe in the evils of gays and minorities as long as they keep thumping their bibles and claiming the religious and values platform, they'll win their votes. Bigotry is another strong component – a disgusting and neanderthalish – it's 2009, not 1969 only they seem to have failed to notice..

It's kind of hard to take Vitter and his comments about conservative values seriously. I mean, this is diaper dave doing the talking. Conservative values just means do as I say, not as a do. What a load of hooey.

Esco   July 29th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

Hahaha. Who didn't see this one coming...honestly? The truth hurts even though Voinovich could have put in better words. I think he hit the nail on the head with his comment...

Larry   July 29th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

Republicans are failures for this country, I don't care where they're from.

The Lonely Libertarian of Liverpool NY   July 29th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

The GOP is a dead party, they lied, they tax and spend as much as the DNC over the last thirty years.
bottom line if you can not reduce spending, thus reduce the tax burden on hard working Americans, then just fade away.....

Austen Partrane   July 29th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

See? It's not just about race in this country, it's also how your voice sounds. There are prejudices everywhere, not just the black/white thing. What Voinovich was slamming is southerners, while the southerners slam back with how they perceive lack of commitment to principles.

yuri   July 29th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

Good! We want to witness more GOP infightin'. These imbeciles should be tryin' to do some damage control for the economyand other issues, instead of pickin' holes in the other party's proposals.

Tom St. Paul   July 29th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

Vitter is defending conservative values? ROFL!!!! Don't these people understand the concept of hypocracy? And he equates moderate with "wishy-washy"?? So obvious as to how out of touch the GOP has become with mainstream America!

Ted   July 29th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

Yeah, Republicans – kick the crap out of each other. The party of NO is in deep turmoil. They need Limbarf and Steele to tell them to back off and be nice.

VAisforLovers   July 29th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

Why do Republicans think that everyone in the Republican party that is moderate is bad? Shouldn't they want a different point of view from time to time?

Richard L   July 29th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values,"
- Sen. David Vitter

Yes, we have seen that. We know that Gov. Mark Sanford and Sen. John Ensign completely agree with you.

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