(CNN) – The dinner discussion at the next Woodhouse family gathering should be spirited – if Tuesday's face off between brothers Dallas and Brad is any indication.
Dallas and Brad Woodhouse are on opposite sides of the heated debate over how to reform the nation's health care system with both brothers trying to shape public opinion on the issue.
Brad is the communications director for the Democratic National Committee, while Dallas works for Americans for Prosperity in North Carolina. The DNC, of course, is promoting President Obama's approach to health care reform, while Americans for Prosperity opposes it.
"It is simple that the president is loosing this debate," Dallas said during the debate with his brother on CNN's American Morning."You know that he is loosing this debate when people like my brother and the White House start attacking hard working tax paying citizens as mobsters, and when Nancy Pelosi calls them un-American."
"The same government that can't get water to thirsty people in a hurricane will destroy the best health care system in the world by complete government take over," Dallas added.
But Brad didn't hold back on his younger brother.
"You can't have an honest debate with folks like my brother on this issue," he said. "I mean no one has proposed, the president has been the last person to propose a government take over of health care. He said we need to build on the current system."
Guys named Brad rule!
I've repeatedly heard the Left say that "the Pharmaceutical Companies are behind the opposition to the Presidents Health Care plan" Did you realize that the Pharmaceutical Companies have donated $150,000,000.00 for the purpose of ADS on TV in SUPPORT of Obama's plan???
Who's in bed with who? You can follow the money$$$$
i guess the republicans' idea of thoughtful discourse is yelling at your representative & shouting down anyone trying to explain the specifics on obama's preposed healthcare overhaul.
for conservative caucasians to draw nazi symbols on president obama is beyond me. these are probably the same people who (a) laughed at all the racist propaganda that was sent via e-mail at election time, (b) would never allow their daughters to date people of color, & (c) can't wait to draw on social security & medicare.
"Best health care system in the world" – gimme a break! What planet is this guy from? European countries and even "third-world" countries like India have a far better "system" than the self-serving monster that has been created in the self-proclaimed "most advanced and richest country in the world".
The problem with Obama/Democrats Health care reform bill 1000+ pages is really only an ADD-ON to an already overloaded system which can only spell higher costs and poor quality delivery and same old bad management and perhaps even more people will fall through the cracks and instead 47million without will double. We need to revamp the present system ask why the private industries cannot bring down costs.... the answer is STop Corporate GREED and punish FRAUD.....Lets fix the system from within before we add more of the same....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President Obama made a very articulate case in the New Hampshire health care townhall. My wife and I listened and were impressed....because trust in our leaders is critical. Then President Obama began the question/answer session by"randomly" selecting members in the audience to ask questions and make comments. "Randomly" the first person he recgonized was a Democratic State Representative who "randomly" spoke strongly on behalf on the President's plan. How can we trust such behavior? Everything else he said immediately became subject to suspect.
If Brad takes to time to review the video clips of Mr. Obama dating back to his time in the state Leg and Congree, he clearly states that we want to see a single payer system. If you don't call that Government takeover. What do you call it? The President and Congress do not care about this plan because they will be exempt. Everything the Government has touch on both parties have been a failure.
Dallas says "destroy the best health care sytem in the world? Maybe if you are rich and white. Here are the facts;
1. 46 million with no insurance
2. 26 million under-insured – cannot afford their deductables
3. 33% of all prescriptions go unfilled as people cannot afford them
4. The leading cause of bankruptcy in the US is due to medical bills
5. Insurance companies deny claims (ration care!) everyday
6. Insurance companies cancel policies when you are sick everyday
7. You have a pre-existing condition? No policy for you!
8. We have higher mortality rates for infants, the poor and people of color and lower life expectancy rates than single payor countries with socialized health care. Do not believe republican lies.
more dis-information from obama supporters. inform Brad that obama wants to take goverment control of everything.
I am in despair over the health care debate because I am starting to believe that the forces of greed and ignorance will again succeed in maintaining the broken status quo. I did not realize the how far easily manipulated ignorance had metastisized until I heard the rantings about euthanasia of seniors, Obama's "death panels" (courtesy of Sarah), and stupid remarks about "keeping government hands off of Medicare." I rarely call anyone stupid, but whoever said that last deserves it. I guess the gutting of education subsidies that started with Ronald Reagon has been very successful, judging by the number of people willing to swallow any piece of misinformation spoon fed to them by Rush Limbaugh and company. For all of you who don't know it, Medicare IS a government created and run program. And it just amazes me that quite a few seniors benefitting from this program are going on about scary government run health care and yelling at congresspeople at town hall meetings. I am a senior myself, and that kind of nonsense just makes us all look like idiots. I really hate the "I've got my health benefits, but I don't want any others less fortunate than me to have them." When did we get to be so ugly?
I will post it again, I have several times and it never posts. The insurance companies are forcing their employees to protest and oppose reform. I have several family members that work for a major insurance company. High level management pulled them into a meeting, gave them forms where they needed to complain with email, rally locations, you name it. They were told protest or your fired basically. (Actually the EXACT words were if you do not oppose this bill your services are no longer required).
That is where many of these 'protests' are coming from. 70% of people want reform and the 30% (who in all honesty are so bitter and angry they aren't in power) do everything they can to create problems simply because things aren't 'their way'. I will never vote republican again, but if Dem's cave into these lunatics I won't be voting for them anymore either.
Again, the general public astounds me. Most of these poor white conservatives make below average wages, have no idea how Medicare works, and think the Republicans want to help them? It's a larger issue of lack of trust in Obama, from his skin to his birth certificate. The thought that any bill would include death panels and such is so absurd it would be funny if people weren't actually believing it. Ignorance is not bliss and these folks must start educating themselves!!
CNN why don't you just do a fact check on the health care statements. You guys have got to stop regurgitating sound bites and catch phrases and get to the bottom of the stories. Do some research. Get to the truth of the matter. Then report on it. Thats what Journalism used to be.
These are the facts folks.The president and the Democratic party are working hard trying to formulate a workable health plan. The Republicans aided by Sarah Palin are fighting a plan they have not even seen and stirring up people who don't yet know what to believe..Palin cannot produce a plan by herself and The Republicans haven't tried, so if this plan fails there will be NOTHING. No medical plan at all and thousands of people without care will be left stranded. Doesn't it make sense to hear the plan and work with the president
/That means listen and think, not scream and yell.That means help where you can, to come up with a workable solution. Six months in office and you are already demanding that he be a miracle worker. Give him a chance.
Most protesting are old, noe-cons, baby-boomers. They could care less about he rest of the country who voted for change and equality. Obama should just push the bill, they got the 60 votes anyway and allow American to go in the right direction.
These retired citizens have no interests in the well being of the country as a whole, regression is their only agenda and will not allow the Democrats to take this country in the right direction.. too bad America voted for change. It's time to change and move on!!
Let's be honest here. Dallas' group, Americans for Prosperity (AFP) = big corporate money looking out for big corporate interests. While there's nothing inherently illegal or wrong about that, any working American or small business owner who thinks that the AFP is looking out for their interests is just plain ignorant.
Nancy Pelosi has shown just exactly what she is all about during this health care reform "debate". She has shown herself to be no better than Newt Gingrich was when he suddenly found himself with too much power during the so-called Republican revolution. We are witnessing what happens when someone receives and then abuses too much power. Every American that she wants to shut out of expressing his/her opinion should double their energy towards letting their representatives know how they feel. Pelosi has become someone who now will not listen to the people that she was elected to represent. It is now time to elect someone else. 2010 will not come soon enough for these thugs. My only fear is that they infuriate us so much between now and then that power will swing too much in favor of Republicans who have shown that they cannot be trusted either. Our best strategy is to find a balance between the Democrats and the Republicans so that no one party can attempt to cram their agenda down everyone's throats.
Had those on the right given Obama the respect anyone placed in his position deserved, I would be willing to listen to their concerns today.
. . .Instead, Obama was slammed, blasted, ridiculed, mocked, and blamed for matters of which he had no cause or control.
Had those on the right worked with and not against Obama from the first day of his presidency, and been mature and open enough to give credit were credit is due, I would be willing to listen to their concerns today.
. . .Instead, Obama was told to go it alone, even though the economic disaster was not of his making, and now - when a small but significant recovery is in sight - the mocking continues.
Why should I care about, or now listen to the concerns on the right? They played their little game . As far as I am concerned, in doing so they lost.
A man named Dallas…need I say more?
But I will. He spouts the lie that Pelosi called people un-American, when she actually said that shouting down people trying to exercise their right to free speech was un-American.
And let us not forget, it was those Republicans who always say government is the problem who happened to be the problem in not getting the water to the thirsty victims of hurricane Katrina.
By the way, FEMA really did a heck'uva job when it was helping those in need in NYC after 9/11. That was before FEMA was swallowed up by Homeland Security, a lame organization that has hurt more than helped.
This shows, more than anything I've read, how totally divisive this issue is. There is no attempt to come to a middle ground AT ALL. The right screams at the left and the left screams at the right and both sides scream at the citizens who just want to know what the real truth is and what every single clause in the bill means to them.
I don't know if Mr. Dallas Woodhouse knows this but we've had a Presidential election since katrina and the guy who was in office at that time is perhaps the reason why we have a Democrat in the White House. People want change and change is happening as we speak. The majority supports the President and after all the majority is what counts. Conservatives are showing their true nature which is 'their way or no way'. They rather scream and shout than to come to an agreement. I sure hope they keep it up because it helps push health care reform. No one is going to listen to a bunch of screaming baboons.
It's like Mr. Brad Woodhouse said "You can't have an honest debate with folks like my brother on this issue" .... what a shame.
The other thing to realize about this argument is that once the government gets into the business...good luck unwinding that program once they decide that it doesn't work like they had hoped.
On the other hand, if instead the government implements measures to reduce the cost of health care first by letting insurance be sold across state lines, streamlining medical data, reforming medical legal processes...these are all things that can be done without betting the treasury on it.
Once the economy is off of life-support it will be a much easier sell and they can put together a plan that doesn't mortgage the whole farm.
i say, if you dont want healthcare reform, which will include preventative care, because you dont want health insurance...that when you have a heart attack, stroke, etc, then dont come to your fellow citizens for help.. this is your chance right now, and you are trying to screw it for the millions who need a public option and for yourself. and when i say "need" .. i really mean NEED.
Forgot this. Take a look at the guy shown on the home page at CNN. He is the same one I have seen at several other meetings. From now on I am going to print them out so they can be compared. AND THE COMMON REPUBLICANS HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THEY ARE CAUSING THIS BY HIRING THUGS. """"""JUST LIKE THEY HIRED THOSE THUGS TO TRY TO DISRUPT THE COUNTING OF THE BALLOTS IN FLORIDA"""'this is what they do.....they can't win anything legal and we see how they steal elections and cause trouble. When we get their butts out of office for good this country can begin to heal from the mess bush and cheney made of it for the last eight years.
Message to Dallas Woodhouse: This ISN'T "the same government that can't get water to thirsty people in a hurricane". For whatever reason those clowns got 8 years to trash the country, yet you aren't willing to even give the new guy a chance to try to wade through all the trash left by the clowns during their long frat party? What's up with that?