(CNN) – The dinner discussion at the next Woodhouse family gathering should be spirited – if Tuesday's face off between brothers Dallas and Brad is any indication.
Dallas and Brad Woodhouse are on opposite sides of the heated debate over how to reform the nation's health care system with both brothers trying to shape public opinion on the issue.
Brad is the communications director for the Democratic National Committee, while Dallas works for Americans for Prosperity in North Carolina. The DNC, of course, is promoting President Obama's approach to health care reform, while Americans for Prosperity opposes it.
"It is simple that the president is loosing this debate," Dallas said during the debate with his brother on CNN's American Morning."You know that he is loosing this debate when people like my brother and the White House start attacking hard working tax paying citizens as mobsters, and when Nancy Pelosi calls them un-American."
"The same government that can't get water to thirsty people in a hurricane will destroy the best health care system in the world by complete government take over," Dallas added.
But Brad didn't hold back on his younger brother.
"You can't have an honest debate with folks like my brother on this issue," he said. "I mean no one has proposed, the president has been the last person to propose a government take over of health care. He said we need to build on the current system."
Dallas is right. When character attacks start, you know the side using them is losing. And the quote from Brad clearly shows that he hasn't read this bill. Build on the current system? You mean the broken Medicaid/Medicare/Social Security/VA system? NO THANKS!
I Love America. America has given me a great opportunity in which I walked through an open door with great pride, dignity and hardwork. I knew things would not come easy, and so I didn't take anything for granted. I do not know what tomorrow holds, but I know that today I am survivor.
This debate was pretty interesting. The health care supporting brother debunked all of the rumors the opposing brother was spouting, and yet the opposing brother still couldn't change his mind or accept the truth. This tells me that, no matter what the truth is, the opposition won't hear it and will continue to hate our current administration no matter how much they're doing to help the citizens of our nation.
I'm a small business owner and can barely pay for health insurance for my HEALTHY family, because private insurance companies keep raising our rates for no apparent reason other than to line their pockets. THIS SYSTEMS NEEDS CHANGE and I fully support the President's plan.
Obama's “Independent Medicare Advisory Council” will solve everything.
It will save us lots of money by systematically denying coverage to leaches like the sick, the elderly and the disabled.
Check out "Independent Medicare Advisory Council” for yourself!
It's really easy to oppose health care reform when you already are covered by your job. If you don't want the government health care plan for your family, then you can go and pay for your own private plan, just like everyone else who isn't covered automatically by their jobs! Sounds American enough for me.
Look at the faces in these town hall meetings; they are almost if not identical to the ones the world saw protesting during the 60’s at the Civil Rights meetings. These people are not protesting against Health Care and a Latino judge, they are protesting against minorities in power. I challenge all media to play the footage from the Civil Rights in comparison to the present day town hall meetings and then run the real story.
No Dallas. You and your friends are putting up websites telling people how to disrupt and basically cancel any kind of real debate on the issue. You are not interested in people actually getting information in case they might want to form an opinion. You allow Feurher Rush and the rest of the dittoheads to dictate the direction of your party and the lemmings dutifully follow
Anyone that believes we have the best healthcare system in the world is either ignorant or has a vested interest in keeping things as they are. Our employer based health insurance system leads to job lock and restricts efficient flow of labor resources.
The payment system encourages healthcare providers to do unnecessary treatment. Insurers are encouraged to pass administrative costs of identifying people with preexisting conditions to those given insurance as well as try to deny coverage or drop people was their costs increase. And patients will seek specialty care when it is unwarrented, thus pushing up premiums for others.
Anyone with a general understanding of health economics and how health care systems work designing a system from scratch would NEVER choose to do things how they currently are in the US.
I find it very difficult to have a conversation or a debate with just about any right winger that I know about any subject that involves policy or politics (& I know several being a democrat in SC).....Look at the people that they follow & listen to & you will understand why...... Limbaugh he screams, yells, moves & jirates speaks with a forked tongue.....Hannity yells, talks over whoever is not saying what he wants to hear, gives his opinion & only allows his opinion to be heard, rude & nasty....Beck he only interviews those that agree with him, screams, yells, states his view & it is usually a lie....look at the FOX network they have guests that are either pretty passive or those that agree with their right wing agenda....so don't be so shocked by the way the right wingers are behaving at town hall meetings.
i hate to involved the massy debate. i think most of the people including I was very afraid of increasing tax too. The tax is too much now. However, health care is not like an issue of eduction. it is about life and death. the medical cost of the nation is drowning the future of this country. The government is the ONLY entity big enough to tame the medical cost. There are 34 million hard working (or at least want to work) people do not have insurance. they are living in the edge of bankrupt. In fact, no body is financially safe in this country. I understand the Katrina incident does cause people lose confidence on the government of Bush. However, we cannot be that pessimistic before outcome occur. Where is the American's spirit? if there is a problem, let's hackle it. We are our brothers and sisters' keeper. Just shrinking head into the shell like turtle or burying head in the sand does not behavior like a super power nation does
I agree with Brad, these people, that are causing all the trouble at the town hall meeting, are fuled by the nay-sayers, like Rush, Dick Cheney, Newt, our health care system is broken, we need to fix it, if we don't fix this system, we will be in worse condition, than we are at this time. If we sit aroung and do nothing, all of these people that are making trouble, will be to blame. Why can't they just listen to what everyone has to say on this subject, they want let their congress or senators, get a word in at these town hall meetings, how do they expect to learn anything when, they keep shouting down the people who can inlighten them on what is going on. I for one total support our President, he is only trying to help the people who can't afford private insurance, and most of us can't . Why don't these trouble makers, go to the source, the private insurance companys, these are the people who don't want any thing to get done on this subject, because they are making a lots of money off dumb trouble makers, they don't want to loose their cash cow. They are the ones who are making false statements about the health care reform, they will have to answers to all their greed in the end. thank you.
He is correct, these opponents do not care about the truth or the facts. They are like the birthers, no matter how much proof you give them it is never enough and they cling to their ignorant, obstinate, misstatements. They are motivated by something other than healtcare. What could it be? Do they think they can actually change the results of the election with their fear mongering and lies?
Hmm. Sounds like my family.
I think it's interesting that Dallas uses the Bush administration's failures during Katrina to support his claim that the government can't run a health care system. As they say, "Well, duh!" The Bushies did screw up everything, but that doesn't mean that real adults couldn't run a national system. They run health care for our military and for everybody in most of the civilized world.
If "the government screws everything up" is his reason to be against health care reform, then he must not support our troops. After all, they, along with police, fire, and EMS services, are provided by the government and paid for by taxes, i.e., socialized.
Perhaps Dallas would rather have a dozen or so private fire companies? Then when he's out of town and his neighbor's home catches fire and the neighbor's fire company comes to put it out (assuming there's not some pre-existing fire condition that disqualifies it), they can watch his house burn down when the fire spreads.
With health care costs averaging yearly double digit increases, how stupid are the American people to not realize the future ramifications?
Health care reform can be implemented easily in three simple steps. First, cap the amount of money that can be awarded for lawsuits against doctors and hospitals. Second, drastically increase the penalties for fraud which account for billions of lost dollars to our insurance companies and to us, the government. Third, reduce the expenditures to our military/industrial complex by at least 25%. (Do people realize that the UNITED STATES SPENDS MORE MONEY ON DEFENSE THAN THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED – THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Reform the system, don't inflate the costs.
It should be the real aim for this bill, beyond the banter the antagonism
If people are so scared of socialism them get rid of medicare, social security, police, firemen and women, the military, etc..!!! America has been playing world police for decades and now when the citizens of this country need help we all turn on each other. What hypocrites we are for turning our backs on our neighbors and claiming to be the moral right in the world!! The Repubs are going to start a civil war by scaring people like they always do! Give me a solution, don't just point a finger! The right claim to be Christians but that is just not true. I don't think Jesus would turn his back on anyone!!!
That was funny to watch.
The commercials for "Americans for Prosperity" is so vile and wrong! It calls global warming a fake and shows images of illegal immigrants crossing the border like they are our enemy! The Repubs are trying to fire people up with false information and are having neighbors turning on each other to score political points!! This solves nothing and will ruin this country!!
What I find pathetic in all this is after 8 years of protesters showing up at Republican conventions and meetings causing disruptions and saying they are exercising their rights in a democracy is when the shoe is on the other foot the Dems whine about how poorly the protesters are acting and they should sit down and shut up. Guess what, when you start the behavior as a way of making your thoughts known dont be a whiny punk when the tables are turned. Either its a legitmate form of dissent or it isnt. Cant have it both ways. Personally I think its not effective but when its been done for years when the Dems were the minority party they lost the right to be upset when they are now the majority party and the tactics are directed at them. Hypocrites.
Yeah well Dallas is wrong. Plain and simple. People fighting against the good or Americans ARE UnAMERICAN. In fact, they are UnHuman. The Constitution guarantees the right to life. To have life, you must have health. Therefore the health care plan needs to be national. No more of this idiocy.
Dallas should remember that the gov't who couldn't get water to hurricane victims was Republican. Just throw the kitchen sink in and hope it sticks. Dallas Woodhouse is a prime example of the irrationality on the part of the right. I have not heard one concrete reason why Mr. Woodhouse and his ilk oppose healthcare reform, when they are asked to explain their opposition, it's usually with some rumor to scare older and low IQ voters, the President's birth certificate, the constitution, abortion from someone lost past childbearing, or wanting "their America" back Rather than the truth, reform will take money out of the insurance industry greedy mitts. Why does a surgery I had in 2003 cost $90,000, 18,000 of which I paid out of pocket . My best friend with out insurance recently had the same procedure for $5,000 in a state of the art hospital inThailand, a third world country that can be taken out by a large wave. Why don't Americans deserve afforable health care?
I WANT EVERYONE WHO IS AGAINST REFORMING THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTY TO GIVE THEIR TAX PAYER OR EMPLOYOR PAID HEALTH CARE PLAN TO ME AND GO WITHOUT. And, all those on disability, Medicare, and Medicaid who scream against a government-controlled health care system need to turn in their government controlled health care cards and GO WITHOUT. The nonsense at these town meetings speaks volumes about Americans as sheep being led by self-serving wolves.
Can't you see, bro, that Obama "stays above the fray" and lets the little peons like you do the dirty work and he will throw you under the bus when things go sour. But let's not forget this was indeed his big idea to begin with, as he wants total control of American lives, the fool.
Did I just read that this is "the best health care system in the world"? What?!?! This is one of the worst, it's costing this country billions of dollars in wasted funds, I feel as though there should be no argument as to whether or not this healthcare system of ours needs to be reformed, if the Republicans can actually come up with a better proposal then maybe we can reach some middle ground here.
Republicans are lucky that getting Democrats united is like herding cats.