August 13th, 2009
04:00 PM ET
5 years ago

Democrat: We don't need 'socialized' heath care reform

(CNN) - Rep. Steve Rothman, D-New Jersey, said at a meeting in Secaucus that the aim of health care reform is not to make America's system mimic Great Britain's or Canada's.

"I, for one, don't want a system like Great Britain's. I don't want a system like Canada's. I don't want national health care, and I don't want socialized medicine," he said.

Rothman said that any health care bill coming out of Congress has to "fix what needs to be fixed" but not "destroy what's good about the existing private health insurance system."


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soundoff (59 Responses)
  1. Lisa, Saugus MA

    Rep. Steve Rothman, you are just what New Jersey needs! Keep up the good sound reasoning.

    Fix what is broke that is a given but keep the good things and there are many good things (speaking as a two time cancer survivor) about the health care in this country.

    I hope more congresspeople start thinking the way Rep. Rothman does!

    August 13, 2009 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  2. Lotta Muni

    If the government manages health care with the same skill they are managing their mortgage refinance assistance, people will be dropping dead in the streets before they can even be examined.

    August 13, 2009 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  3. Lee

    We'd be much better off in a system like Great Britain's or Canada's system.

    However, the reform being proposed is better than nothing, and it's about a half century overdue. We simply cannot continue allowing the insurance companies and big pharma to suck out a greater and greater portion of the nation's GDP and each our paychecks.

    Republicans (and some "Blue Dog" democrats) are wholly bought by these corporate interests who are fighting tooth in nail with outright lies, delays, and alliance with people whose real agenda is to hope America fails so that a white republican like Gee Dubya Bush can re-take power and continue our descent into the irrational and ruinous.

    August 13, 2009 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  4. Clinton Fringer

    A B.............which countries would those be? I have lived in countries with socialized medicine and trust me when I say that our care in America is WAY different and much better. I am not sure if most Americans want long waits for care or to be in large rooms of people during hospital stays or not get things as simple as flu shots because they aren't considered neccessary. Is some care better than no care? Possibly, but considered you are going to greatly reduce the quality of care you receive and are accustomed with a nationalized plan like the UK or Canada has.

    Think of it this way. If you want a government controlled care........ask a Vet in a VA hospital how good the care is.

    August 13, 2009 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  5. TRESOR

    Rothman is an idiot. first of all he should tell us how much he gets from private and pharmaceutical companies.

    Then he should explain to his constituency that MEDICARE, MEDICAID is socialized insurance already and those who are against socialized Health Care should give up their MEDICARE and MEDICAID.

    Finally he should explain to people that the bill wants private companies to compete against a Government sponsored plan, not just among themselves.
    We pretend to be the most powerful country in the world yet 50 millions of our people are out without insurance and pharmaceutical companies are regulating what kind of health care we get from Doctors. Why nobody is complaining about the rising costs? Are we just stupid or what?

    August 13, 2009 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  6. John

    I for one WANT nationalized health care. The government should provide a base level of health care for all citizens. If you can afford to pay for more, go for it. If an employer wants to provide better coverage to entice workers, go for it. It is criminal that we are required to have CAR insurance, but we can't all get health insurance. The fearmongering that is going on is completely disgusting and revolting. I was an independent. No more. I will not vote for any politician who opposes health care reform. Plain and simple.

    August 13, 2009 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  7. Jim

    No more pandering to the right – grow a backbone – give us socialized health care because thats what we want – the right had 8 years to destroy the country – NOW GET OUT OF OUR WAY SO WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS.

    August 13, 2009 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  8. vic nashville , Tn

    I want every Americans have health Insurance that is not called socialism

    If voters don’t buy the word socialism FOX ,Rush And GOP will called universal healthcare terrorism

    August 13, 2009 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  9. normajean

    You have already been told time and time again that if you like the plan you have..you can keep it! What is so hard to understand about that?To refer to the garbage being thrown around about "death panels}Do you people at the Town Hall meetings, in such a panic,,,,really believe that the people who are for this Presidents health plan are stupid enough to want it if it;s going to pull the plug on the old people? ( I'm 84 yrs. and I am not worried, one bit} Think. think.think. Some people are calling Obama Hitler. Did the average German drive one or two cars??..Have a nice home?...Vacation in the summer? Always have enough to.eat. HARDLY..This is a great and wonderful country. Let's keep it that way and stop living in fear.

    August 13, 2009 04:54 pm at 4:54 pm |
  10. Moderate Democrat

    There is NOTHING good about the existing Health Care system...unless you are referring to your biggest campaign donators.

    August 13, 2009 04:54 pm at 4:54 pm |
  11. Luke

    Watch out for the Bait & Switch..

    August 13, 2009 04:55 pm at 4:55 pm |
  12. Lilarose in Bandon, Oregon

    Stupid, stupid, stupid!

    Just what is the definition of "socialized medicine?" People don't seem to know.

    My kids in Australia love their family medicare. They think it is ridiculous we don't have it. They have problems with it.

    Except for some Canadians who want to profit by being in anti-healthcare reform ads, most people in Canada want what they have vs. NOTHING.

    And NOTHING is what 46 million Americans are soon to get.

    August 13, 2009 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  13. A Canadian Bogeyman

    "He did it again". Bravo Wolf.

    August 13, 2009 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  14. T Mckinley

    If our government really can't run anything correctly, then why don't we put our military under the control of private companies and cooporations.

    The President would still be Commander in Cheif like the Constitution says, but all the financing for the military would come from the PRIVATE sector, and coorporations would be in charge of organizing and running the different braches of our armed forces.

    Just think of all the untold billions the taxpayers could save if all the money for guns, tanks, ships, bombs, nukes, etc. came from the private sector instead of Federal tax dollars.

    This is what consevatives want, isn't it? To get the government out of everything and allow the "free market" to control and run everything. How about the military? Let's be true conservatives and get the government out of the military business. Less government, lower taxes, right?

    Besides, the private sector would be soooooo much better at running our military than the government, right?

    August 13, 2009 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  15. DEB

    Easy for this man to make this kind of a statement , He has free healthcare insurance!

    August 13, 2009 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
  16. Mark,B'ham,Al.

    If you listen to President Obama when he was a Senate Candidate, that is his goal of a single payer system, even if it takes 5, 10, 15, 20 years.

    August 13, 2009 05:05 pm at 5:05 pm |
  17. Adam

    Insurance companies innovate as well. I want an insurance plan that is just right for me. Perhaps I am healthy and only want routine visits and emergencies to be covered. Perhaps I am deathly afraid of a catastrophic illness and want to be covered for high end treatments for illnesses that are usually considered terminal. Insurance companies get paid to come up with these plans, offer them on the market and make sure the company at least breaks even. I don't see any reason to limit the profits of these companies. As far as I know there is no OPEC of insurance. If one company is gouging it's customers, then another will undercut it and steal its clients. No need for reform in this case.

    August 13, 2009 05:05 pm at 5:05 pm |
  18. Roger

    I agree. No socialized health care. Goverment sponser health care is no good. I am in favor of doing away with medicare, medicaid all veteran hospitals it is ALL goverment sponsered health care. Lets unite and end it once and for all!

    August 13, 2009 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  19. Elly

    Hmmm I am a Canadian
    My sister lives in the USA
    We both had the same surgery a year apart

    Mine never cost me a dime -*nothing owing*

    My sister about 75000 in debt and oh btw she had insurance

    Universal health care-Socialism -Just a label!!!!!!!

    August 13, 2009 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  20. WhoCares?

    The year that Socialism was misused more than any other in the history of world.

    August 13, 2009 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  21. Gabriel

    Why is everyone so freaked out about socializing medicine? Most essential services in this country are already socialized. Police, firefighters, education, roads, parks, social security. I wonder how many of the people screaming bloody murder over this have no problem taking unemployment insurance when they need it? Face it. No single system is perfect. The US has evolved to incorporate a hybrid of systems to take advantage of their various strengths. The private sector has shown that they can not be trusted to manage health care (of the financial markets). Prices have skyrocketed while quality of service has dropped to an internationally embarrassingly low level. It doesn't matter if you have an infinite choice of doctors if you can't afford to see any of them. Almost every other wealthy modern country in the world has some form of a single-payer system. The current legislation is a joke that continues to pander to the insurance companies. We will continue to be at a disadvantage to the rest of the world until we truly socialized US health care.

    August 13, 2009 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  22. WhoCares?

    So he doesn't want the HEALTHCARE THAT HE ALREADY HAS!! for the rest of the US eh?

    My Lord....I think the best thing about this issue is that it has shown that America is full of utter idiots.

    August 13, 2009 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  23. Drooling Liberal

    "Then he should explain to his constituency that MEDICARE, MEDICAID is socialized insurance already and those who are against socialized Health Care should give up their MEDICARE and MEDICAID"

    I tell you what, if you gave us all the $$$ that we put into MEDICAID, MEDICARE, with intereste, we'll GLADLY give up MEDICARE and MEDICAID.

    Easy answer for you lib.

    August 13, 2009 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  24. Daisy

    It really doesn't make sense to me why a country wouldn't want to take care of its citizens.

    August 13, 2009 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  25. Independent Liberal

    This healthcare issue isn't even about healthcare anymore. Do you really believe all of this would be on going if Obama was a white man. Do you think if these were African Americans at these townhalls that this would be considered a riot or taser fest. Come on now.

    It has been proven and documented that the Republicans, who are well paid by the pharma companies, are once again using fear tactics and scripts at these meetings. All they care about is defeating Obama. It's politically driven!

    Are the Dems perfect? Of course not, but my god people look at the facts. Private companies are being paid very well and we are suffering greatly for it. Premiums have gone up as much as 25%. Who is going to keep these private companies honest. People say "don't touch my medicare" but medicare is government run.

    This is totally out of control.

    August 13, 2009 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
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