August 14th, 2009
02:08 PM ET
9 years ago

Read in: Health care bills in Congress

Both the House and Senate health care bills are available online.

Both the House and Senate health care bills are available online.

Read the House bill here.

Read the Senate bill here.

Filed under: Health care
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  1. casual observer

    The great self proclaimed iconoclast with a $20,000.00 business degree, TV primetime news, must have been lollygagging (To waste time by puttering aimlessly; dawdle.) in the halls of the university he went to, as he said he can not understand what the president said about health care. Very hard to believe, unless, you are also reading a teleprompter or just adlibbing to move the program along, and trying to look stupid. Point one, the upper elite will pay more (much more) with the status quo. Point 2. The lower to middle class will not have enough disposable income to choose anything close to what the elite can afford, thus perpetuating the garbage that is occurring right now, can’t afford any medicine, and then yes, Point 3. By all means spread your germs and viruses to the elite as they can afford it. Point 4. As now the supply and demand portion of capitalism must work right, the more pills you sell the lower the costs for everyone, hmmm yeah right, try buying the life saving medicines when you can not get insurance.
    Now there are many comparisons to England’s health care and Canada’s health care system, talking about some person that may have had to wait for a particular operation, and how they had to wait forever for that operation. Hogwash, what a blinding statement that would scare the hell out of the staunchest politicians, never mind the average person. The seriously ill are prioritized, just like they are in the emergency rooms in most hospitals. Some News anchors have their favorite agreeing, alike minded and alike thinking guests on, so there is little chance of a real on air discussion. Also due in fact to the have you stopped beating your wife type questions being asked and the inability of the anchor to verify the horn swaggle spewing out of the guests mouth. The absurd notion that health care in England and Canada is rationed, pure nonsense fear mongering right wing zealots, scare the hell out of people tactics. Oh yeah the same zealot said that there are 35000 people waiting for hip replacement surgery in British Columbia Canada, yeah right get a grip Ben Casey , you forgot there are only 33 million people total in Canada, your math stats don’t add up.
    The media continues to not dig deeper into all the good areas of the proposed new system, just the surface things and just enough to try and scare the hell out of all US. Citizens. Think about the side benefits, all employers have to put in say even one dollar towards Joe Blows insurance, well that lets the Country know that there is a Joe Blow, and just maybe if they are legally supposed to be here, and hey they can start paying for their medical rather than be subsidized by the wealthy as they are now.
    . It was just said on TV news by a guest speaker that, there are some 6700 medical insurance companies in the USA, wow that in its self must cost several billion a year, just to operate.(forgive the pun) If you or anyone thinks that you will be treated better because you have your own private insurance (most have major constraints) then one should be able to keep that insurance, and it seems that has been officially said. Can’t choose your own Dr., in Canada or England, is another hog wash report by the TV media. Very rarely can you not. Democrats, get it together, and do the right thing, change the bureaucracy, for the better of all…Get the butter(pork) out of the existing BILL and get on with saving the USA.!

    August 14, 2009 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  2. Melissa

    Well, thats good to see. Too bad some Republicans will still say that the government hasn't released a copy for them to read and this won't matter to them in any way.

    August 14, 2009 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  3. Rupa

    Thank you for this link. I could not find the exact Bill that I wanted to read myself.

    August 14, 2009 02:49 pm at 2:49 pm |
  4. Dan

    Where is the story of the 2003 GOP Medicare legislation that contained what they are now calling "death panels"?

    Where is the report of Palin's April 16, 2008 support for Health Care Decision Day? The one where it was vital for people to be consulted on options they may face at the end of life. You know the same thing she now calls "death panels".

    August 14, 2009 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  5. Coop

    Ain't no one is going to read the BILL.... just keep saying "DEATH PANEL" and PLUG WILL BE PULL ON GRANDMA that will work.... I think CNN needs to read the BILL so they can be able to reveal the lies out there

    August 14, 2009 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  6. C W

    To Sarah Palin and others who still think that health care reform includes a "death panel," please read Page 426 of the House Bill.

    This section of the proposed bill talks about living will consultations with the patient's practitioner, the cost of which this bill would cover.

    This kind of advanced planning greatly assists patients, their families and their health care professionals. Anyone who has ever had to deal with a dying family member knows that honoring the patient's wishes regarding palliative care, hospice provisions and end-of-life treatment is extremely helpful and comforting.

    There are no death panels. To say otherwise is a lie.

    August 14, 2009 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  7. mike

    Has every elected official read this bill?

    August 14, 2009 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  8. Sam Sixpack

    What about the language sent to Nancy Pelosi on July 17, 2009 to create the "Independent Medicare Advisory Council" (IMAC).

    The White House proposes that, under the IMAC umbrella, President Obama will hand-pick five bureaucrats to decide what will and will not be covered by our Medicare of the future.

    Pelosi and company, being the good troopers they are, will probably slip it in somewhere after at the last minute.

    You can read about it on the White House's website.

    August 14, 2009 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  9. kevin

    Finally, hooray Cnn finally did something right. Thank you. Now, I must change my mind about your site.

    First, the House Bill

    Second, the Senate Bill

    Now, you are being a News Network again. Now, be Impartial and let the american people digest these bill and move the forward.

    This is what the American people deserve, to read each bill and see what we like and dislike and then confront our elected officals.

    Now, CNN has restored my faith in your news site. Don't stop and you will get your audience back.

    August 14, 2009 03:07 pm at 3:07 pm |
  10. Brian - Seattle

    Up until now there has been no hard copy of the Senate version. Was this just released today? Any additional details on this?


    August 14, 2009 03:13 pm at 3:13 pm |
  11. Mississippi Mike

    Thanks for the info. I've sent the links to my congressman and senators. Hopefully they'll take a look before voting.

    August 14, 2009 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  12. Alex in NJ

    Thanks for keeping us informed CNN

    August 14, 2009 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  13. malclave

    Does anyone know how we can make these bills available to Senators and Representatives, so they have the opportunity to read them?

    August 14, 2009 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  14. Enlightened Voter

    And still republicans will say there is no transparency.

    August 14, 2009 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  15. Jason Teichman

    I support public universal healthcare for children and all Americans. Don't let the HMOs, ADA, and Pharma lobby weaken your support for universal public healthcare.

    President Barack Obama ran on a campaign promise of health coverage for all children in America. Now that the unfinished business of the last Congress – the expansion of CHIP – is done, children deserve real health care reform so that no child is without coverage. Even with the CHIP expansion, 5-6 million children will still have no coverage and millions more will be underinsured. With rising health care costs, families are struggling – especially now – to get health care for their children.We need affordable health coverage for everyone in America and ensure that any health care reform legislation includes health coverage for all children.

    Universal, public health care that cannot be denied to families or children regardless of income or employment status is a human right. Let's get universal public healthcare for all children in this great country today!

    August 14, 2009 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  16. Candy West Virginia

    Where is the REPUBLICAN health care plan??? Has anybody seen it? Heard of it?? Thank you Democrats for always taking care of the people.

    August 14, 2009 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  17. Concerned tax payer

    Question 1 Who is paying for this bill if it passes? Answer. If you have a job you will. If you don't have a job someone else will pay for you. Question2. How much money will be deducted from my pay each week to pay for this new TAX? I now pay $27 a week into Medicare assuming that 25% of the American population is above age 65 and covered under Medicare that means 75% would be covered under this new bill. The NEW TAX deduction from my pay weekly would be about $81

    August 14, 2009 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |

    I just watched President Obamas Town Hall GREAT JOB PRESIDENTOBAMA At Explaining the Healthcare reform

    August 14, 2009 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  19. Shawn - GA

    Look, health insurance needs to be fixed, there needs to be regulation, there needs to be Tort reform.

    There does NOT need to be a Gov run health care system, and the lie that you can keep your coverage is amazing. It is a half truth, once your company decides to change to the gov run plan then you will be on it and have no choice.. The choice that you would have in order to "keep your coverage" would be to buy it on your own and pay for the full amount.

    Let us not forget that they can tell you anything they want to get your support and get the bill(s) in law, THEN once it is in law then congress can add amendments to it. I don't want any future congress, Rep or Dem run to have that power over health insurance.

    So fix what we have and keep gov out of the business of insurance. I am speaking to medicare and medicaid as well.

    August 14, 2009 04:21 pm at 4:21 pm |
  20. Stacey, California

    I don't know it all seems so ambiguous and complex to me. We need simple answers to straight questions.

    August 14, 2009 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  21. Andrew, Buffalo NY

    After reading these bills, i still haven't figured out how it address the costs of HC. A one of the 200+ million on private insurance, how will I and my company save ANY money with these plans???

    August 14, 2009 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  22. Rick

    I read the House bill a few days ago and couldn't find any health care "reform" in it.
    All I could find is the foundations of yet another insurance company.
    The kicker is this one is funded by tax payers to cover mainly those who pay no taxes.
    Free government health care is not free.

    August 14, 2009 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  23. James

    If the Health Care Plan is so good, why has Congress excluded themself from it. If it is not good enough for them, why should we want it. If it is so good is the President going to be covered by it or is he excluded also, what about the lawyers and the others which are creating the mess,

    August 14, 2009 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  24. Mike in MN

    I read the first 50 pages of the House bill. Below is what I understand it says. It clearly reads to me that it is a total take over by the government of health care. Private insurance becomes a sham. What is and is not covered will be determined by a totat of 30 government or government appointed individuals including the President. But don't just take my word for it, everyone should read it and make up their own mind.

    First day of year one a plan is not qualified unless it meets new government requirements that define a qualified plan.

    Current individual plans are grandfathered in and allowed to stay in force as long as there are no changes made to the plan including a simple change to co pay.

    Grace period for employer based plans is for 5 years as long as it meets new requirements as established by the government that defines a qualified plan.

    As of day one of first year, a new individual plan can only be purchased through the exchange of plans that meet the new government qualifications of a qualified plan.

    A Health Benefits Advisory Committee will be formed to recommend covered benefits and premium plans which will define a qualified plan. The Surgeon General will chair the committee. Nine members will be appointed by the President who are not Federal employees. Nine members will be appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States who are not Federal employees. Eight members will be appointed by the President who are Federal employees.

    The recommendations of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee will be submitted to the Secretary of Health and Human Services. These recommendations are the qualified plan benefit standards including categories of covered treatments, items and services, cost-sharing levels and premiums plans. The Secretary will decide whether to adopt the recommendations.

    A Health Choices Commissioner will be appointed by the President to enforce that the plans in the exchange meet the requirements of the established recommendations. If a plan is found to be in violation there will be a suspension of enrollment under the plan until the Commissioner is satisfied the plan meets the requirements of a qualified plan.

    August 14, 2009 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  25. Maximus (NY)

    To those opposing the health care plan saying that they don’t want to be controlled by the government, let me ask you all this. Can you think of just one thing in your life that the government does not preside over? Who establishes laws for you to abide by? The government. Who create jobs and sets the minimum wage for you to work? The government. Who declares war and embarks your sons and daughters to die? The government. Who provides you with safety, security, justice, and protection? The government. Who sets a price on the clothes, the food, the drugs, the car you use? The government. Who purifies and pollutes the water you drink, the air you breathe? The government. Who comes to extinguish the fire that is consuming your house? The government. Who shelters, and feed you as you become homeless or unemployed? The government. Who monitors your phone conversation and internet transmission? The government. Who sets tax rate and an age for you to retire from the workforce? The government. Who pays you social security, disability, and unemployment benefits? The government. Who sentences you to death or jail time after you commit a crime? The government. Who signs, seals your marriage, divorce, birth and death certificates? The government. Who runs to your rescue at time of emergency and natural disasters? The government. Who constructs and maintains the roads you and your car travel on? The government. Who etcetera, etcetera, and etcetera? The government. Now, if you oppose a government-sponsored health care reform, I’ll take another excuse from you, but not because you don’t want to be controlled by the government. By the way the health care reform plan is not being imposed on anybody. It’s only for those who want it. If you don’t want or need it, just don’t enroll in it. But when your private health insurance company refuses to cover your medical bill, don’t come complain to the government.

    August 14, 2009 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
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