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[...] appears that some moderate Democrats in Congress are at least talking about scrapping the health care plan and starting over again, reforming in [...]

[...] Allen Boyd, a Florida Blue Dog, thinks it might be a good idea to scrap the current bills and start over from [...]

[...] of the current House bill, and at least 13 Blue Dogs opposed to it. IBD’s list includes Rep. Allen Boyd (D-FL), who says he cannot support the current House bill, even though he was re-elected last year with [...]

[...] It appears that some Dems may actually listen to their constituents. Rep Allen Boyd of Florida has the right idea. Start Over! [...]

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[...] excerpt from CNN explains below... PERRY, Florida (CNN) – Acknowledging his amazement at the crowds gathered [...]

[...] Pro-Soc. Sec. privatization Blue Dog Rep. tries to scrap entire health care bill. CNN: "When a [town hall] questioner, Ray Evans, said he believed the President wants to do too much at once and asked whether [Rep. Allen] Boyd would 'be willing to scrap everything' and start over to do pursue reform more incrementally, the congressman responded: 'I think that is an excellent idea … we may end up there.' In a later interview with CNN, he said the idea had been been floated with the congressional leadership. He said that with the strong emotions and heated opposition he is seeing, the idea of doing health reform in a more piecemeal fashion is something he is strongly considering." [...]

[...] Democrat Representative Allen Boyd stated that he can not support the House healthcare bill "in the version it is in now."   A member of the so-called "Blue Dog Coalition," Boyd cited concerns over [...]

[...] is not a necessary part of the healthcare overhaul, and with blue dog democrats quickly responding, 'now, that's not a bad idea,' the entire healthcare 'overhaul' [...]

[...] of the current House bill, and at least 13 Blue Dogs opposed to it. IBD's list includes Rep. Allen Boyd (D-FL), who says he cannot support the current House bill, even though he was re-elected last year with [...]

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[...] said Boyd, who also said that he thought it would be "an excellent idea" to "scrap everything" and start over on health care [...]

[...] said Boyd, who also said that he thought it would be "an excellent idea" to "scrap everything" and start over on health care [...]

[...] response, the champions of health care for the downtrodden have offered a full dose of vitriol. Pelosi has called the town hall hollerers Nazis. Dingell says they recall the KKK. Hoyer, with Pelosi [...]

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[...] Florida member of the Blue Dog coalition says that Congress should scrap the health care reform plans it's been working on for months and start f... PERRY, Florida (CNN) – Acknowledging his amazement at the crowds gathered to debate health care [...]

[...] Democrat is asked at a town hall about illegal alien coverage under the House Bill 3200 plan. He responds: "Page 143, line 3,” he said. “No federal payment for undocumented aliens; nothing in this [...]

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[...] ticker this morning, one story talks about a Blue Dog democrat named Allen Boyd (Florida) who is telling his constituents he cannot support the current version of the bill and it would be a good idea to start the [...]

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[...] CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive ... By peterhamby I don't want all Americans to have the same. I want you to have your choice about what you have." When a questioned pressed him for a yes or no answer on whether it was irresponsible for a member of Congress to vote on a bill without ... CNN Political Ticker – http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ [...]

The Obama plan is to give all of the illegals citizenship and then they will be covered under his health care bill.

This guy represents a total disaster. He is as good as gone!
Not to worry! If he gets voted out of office, he will become a lobbyist in DC, making MILLIONS off of payola!

Too many people cannot be insured because of pre-existing conditions. Regularly the group policies go up in price but offer fewer benefits. We need reform. Medicare and medicaid are two of the most popular government plans. Health insurance reform can benefit everyone and should be adopted quickly.

[...] Continued here: Blue Dog: 'Excellent idea' to start over on health care reform [...]

Over 76% of Americans want public option. This is the only way this plan will reform the anachronistic health care system in this country. We have to fight for it or reform will be meaningless.

You say you want to play HARDBALL? I say take a vote now and anyone against it will be voted out by the Majority come election day.

The USA spends more on health care and gets less health care for our money than any other modern nation. Political prostitution pays off, but not for We, The People.

With Social Security, Fannie may / Freddie mac and medicare all bankrupt and the Postal Service on it's way, why would anyone want the government trying to run healthcare?
If the current immigration laws were actually enforced, the pharma companys had reasonable limits for profits , and new laws were made to limit law suit amounts and go after medicade fraud more diligently , we would be well on our way to cheaper health insurance right now.
And at a much cheaper cost than any government run healthcare system.

It sure looks like Representative Boyd is getting the message! I hope this is being brought back to Washington and acted on. These are not bussed in people being paid by Insurance Companies or other special interest groups. These are Americans who are saying "No More" to the irresponsible management of our tax dollars in Washington. Enough already.

Our beloved Blue Dogs are Rethuglicans in sheep's clothing. These folks are right leaning players in an enormous fraud being perpetrated on America. They don't deserve the label Democrat. They really should be called Red Dogs.

Blue Dog Democrats are pretty much useless in my opinion. They seem to vote "Ney" on democratic bills and "Ney" on republican bills. They sponsor not much and write even less. They kind of take up space and try to get "pork" for their districts. Since the have no dog in the fight, they get more attention than they are worth.
This way when elections come around they can always say they are doing the bidding of their district. In fact they do not. they want to get re-elected without having to actually think. They just want to get their paycheck and get committee chairmanships by default simply by longevity.

Newsflash to those worried about paying for abortions: if you have health insurance, ANY health insurance, chances are very good that you already are paying for them! People are incredibly hypocritical about criticizing the government about where their money goes while not questioning private companies where their fees go. Most health insurance companies have coverage for abortions. Your fees are going to abortions! Only 5 states have any limitations on insurance companies paying for abortions, and only 2 forbid it and even then only for public employees. So if you want to stick to your morality and not allow your money to go to abortions, check your own insurance company as well! It is a pretty good bet the fees you pay end up paying for somebody!

Might be a good idea, LETS GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

We do need to start again on health care. While the public option might make liberals happy, and I as a liberal think it's a bad idea, the public co-op would definitely be a good option. It would provide competition with the private insurers, while at the same time it would keep government out of health care. Private health insurers have had it all their own way for far too long. And by the way, they do ration health care, something protesters insist would happen with a government option. We already have rationed health care. And it would be nice if HMO's actually became Health Maintenance Organizations and provided preventative care. It would be much cheaper to prevent illness than to let it fester. But of course if you don't care if a customer DIES, then I guess it is cheaper to ignore the illness.

By-the-by Mr. Blue Dog Democrat: It would be nice if we could all have the same insurance we so generously pay for you and your fellow senators.

The blue dogs need to be taken behind the woodshed and advised that their districts may as well be in Chile if they vote against the President. Federal monies will slow to a trickle, Post Offices will close, military bases will be moved, procurement contracts will disappear.

I don't think it's necessary to start over, but further changes should include the re-instatement of the coverage for end-of-life consultations.

Something, BTW, that Sarah Palin during her short tenure as Governor of Alaska promoted as part of "Healthcare Decisions Day." On that day, she said, “Alaska Statute 13.52 provides the specifics of the advance directives law and offers a model form for patient use.”

Similar laws exist in every state and the District of Columbia. No one ever referred to these laws as euthenasia – until Sarah Palin purposefully lied to the American public in an effort to stir up anti-health care reform sentiment.

Lovely woman, isn't she?

Seems like the Democrats in his district need to "scrap everything" and elect a new representative that cares about them....

1. If this is such a good idea then why did the congress make it's self exempt?

2. Work with the exsisting programs Medicare and medicaid.

3. Quit saying this is free. we are paying for it with our tax dollars.

"I want you to have your choice about what you have."
Choice works. Either private funded, where a significant portion goes to line the pockets of lobbyists and their politicians, or a private government funded plan where the lion's share goes to funding one plan with equal access for all. Medicare for all. Just remove the age restrictions and replace with cost based on income level. It's The Thom Hartmann proposal.
At least give Americans a choice.

Please don't let these screaming idiots keep the rest of us from having affordable health care. There are too many lives at stake to let the lobbiest and uninformed win on this. It's way too important!

I'm sure that they can do better than the current bill. Of course the current bill is leaps and bounds better than doing nothing, which is exactly what we'll get if we put up with the politicians stalling. I say give us what you got now and work out the bugs as they come up. Senate Democrats stop pandering to the uninformed and the ignorant.
Every day I get another form letter designed to stir up the conservative beehive. These e-mails are full of lies about what's in the health care reform bill. This weekend I debunked one of them, point by point, for three hours. It was ridiculous and everyone who sent it on before me believed every word of it.
Back down to the ignorant now Democrats and mark my words you will face the same fate your party faced in the mid 90's when you let this opportunity slip away.

Gee I think it is an excellent idea to start over on voting out the blue dogs....you know the republicans who slide in under cover of being democrats. I know there is a real grass roots effort to vote them out. No matter what Emanuel says. People aren't going to contribute one cent to the DNC if the give any of them money.

We know why he wanted Dean out as chairman. He wanted a wimp in to do his bidding and get those crooked dems , oops republicans elected.

So once again Health care reform will fail. And again it will be because the Super wealthy Corporate CEO greedy scum, and their bought and paid for crooked Republican puppets. Have succeeded in fooling the American sheeple with lies and distortions. Shame on the Democrats if they cave in to this disgusting manipulation of our Government by the same greedy crooks that ruined our economy, got us into war for oil and sent our middle class lifestyle to China in exchange for cheap defective products.

How much money has the insurance industry given to Rep. Boyd?

He needs to be voted out and term limits on all of them. Then they wouldn't have the fat benefits and the deep pockets. That goes for all!

Like his Republican comrad Grassley said 'Put your finger in the dyke.', stall, stall, stall........I am glad you and your family enjoy having health coverage we all pay for.

RIGHT on.....He gave up like Palin! He ain't no Democrat...he's a republican. He gives up on stuff! I love em when they give up. I like my representatives like me.....irresponsible and incapable of any progress. That's why I'm a republican....because all of our leaders are like that! Good to see a few moron democrats out there. I'm tired of being the only retardds in this country. It's not fair. it's someone elses turn to be completely incapable of any progress.

Boyd sounds reasonable but it sounds like some of his constituents are highly partisan. When one is for or against legislation solely because of which party is sponsoring it, that person is displaying his or her ignorance. One should form an opinion on legislation based on the content of the legislation.

It sounds like the Repubs and theri supporters are exercising the slash and burn politics of Lee Atwood and Karl Rove. They have fine tuned the art of spreading fear and hate.

Can someone give me the simple version of health care reform? Perhaps this will highlight the areas for improvement and areas of greed?

Translation: delay, delay, delay, until the thing dies. That way, the insurance companies continue to get rich as Americans go bankrupt paying for "non-covered" expenses. Thanks for nothing, Senator.

Allen Boyd you are just what the republicans need. When Bush was in office both times, many laws were passed at the expense of regular hard working Americans. The republicans stuck together and rammed their various greedy agenda through both houses. Thanks for your leadership to the Dems and regular Americans for following the republican lead. I hope all dems remember when elections come exactly where you stand.

All the questioners are anti-Obama.

Where are the 46 million UNINSURED Americans at these rallies?

Let's be fair folks! That means you, CNN!

I am for firing all of Congress and starting over.

I think it would be an excellent idea for Allen Boyd to start over in a new career ... particularly one that does not offer him taxpayer funded health care as he now has at my expense.

Good for Rep. Boyd, I'm glad he stands up for his constituents and what he believes in, not simply giving in to pressure from his own party. I'd be proud to have him as my representative, obviously his constituents will be re-electing him.

I'm for a more radical overhaul of Healthcare than what Obama is proposing. I'd like to see some really smart people come up with a solution that actually takes insurance companies totally out of the equation. They don't provide care. They're in it to make ever skyrocketing profits out of our pain and suffering. We need third parties out of the deal.

These crazies that are show up at these town halls don't represent me! CNN likes to show red Republicans districts. But ,what about us big city folks. CNN loves the pictch folks and torch crowds.

too busy keeping his job to do his job.

its a Public commodity-Private commodity discussion.

There are those of us who believe education and health care are public goods to be available to all citizens, the cost bore by all taxpayers, because the result is that all taxpayers will benefit.

And those of us who want to package health care and education into profit based opportunities, to be bought, sold, and borrowed upon in a free- market....

In the end you say education or health care is a privilege not a right

but I counter that making a profit is not a right either. Its a privilege.

SINGLE PAYER. We need single payer now. If you don't like how some other country has done it, fine, we're American, we can do it better. But we need to do it NOW.