September 4, 2009
Posted: September 4th, 2009 05:53 PM ET

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Some of the most liberal members of the House say they won't vote for a bill without a government-run insurance option.
Some of the most liberal members of the House say they won't vote for a bill without a government-run insurance option.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – As Obama prepares to go before Congress and lay out more details about his stance on health reform, he held a conference call Friday with some of the most liberal members of the House, who say they won't vote for a bill without a government-run insurance option.

Two congresswomen on the call, which took place Friday afternoon, tell CNN that the president probed them about how entrenched they are, even asking them to define what they mean when they call for a "robust" public option.

"I think he would like to convince us that there is something short of that could lead to a public option that would satisfy us, and guess what? It doesn't," Rep. Lynne Woolsey, D-California, told CNN in a telephone interview after the conference call.

Woolsey, the chairwoman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, insisted that the president did not explicitly warn them that he may have to give up a so-called public option in order to pass a bill through the more moderate Senate, but it seemed he was laying the groundwork.


"He has to decide where that line has to be drawn and he knows we have to decide where the line can be drawn," said Woolsey.

The conference call included leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, Congressional Black Caucus, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, and the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus.

Another Democratic source familiar with the call said the president did made clear it will be hard to pass a public option out of Congress because of deep opposition from moderates, and talked about what's most important to him - market reforms that force more competition, lower costs for health care, and expanded coverage for the uninsured.

But both Woolsey and Rep Barbara Lee, D-California, the chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, told CNN that they told the president point blank that they do not believe a health care proposal without a government-run option is real reform.

"All of our caucuses are very unified about a robust public option, and that is essential in healthcare reform efforts," Lee told CNN in a separate phone interview after the conference call.

"Because the cost to those who have insurance, which is 85 percent of the public - they want to make sure that they keep their coverage that they have choice but that their premiums come down. And we communicated this very clearly to the president. The only way that that can happen for those are already insured is to have a robust public option, " she said.

Lee said she answered the president's question about what a robust option means by saying it should be crafted along the lines of Medicare for senior citizens.

Woolsey and Lee said the president invited them to the White House to continue the discussion on Tuesday or Wednesday of next week, before his speech to Congress.

Filed under: Health care


Funny girl   September 5th, 2009 9:29 am ET

I have been behind this administration from the begining. I have had faith that they would choose the right option. I worked my tail off last summer with 4 children in tow to get Obama elected. Let me make this clear. America needs a public option. Not a trigger system. If this administration drafts a bill without it just to get on snowe on board and leave 16 dems out and thinks oh well. No public option- no re- election. You have lost me. Period!

jules sand-perkins   September 5th, 2009 4:41 am ET

We have nothing to fear: just wash your hands.
Obama Out in 2012!
Restore the balance in Congress ASAP!

We made a mistake last year. Good: one learns from mistakes.
Now let's use the eraser and start over. We still have America, and we can restore it by curing dependency on handouts the same way drug addiction is cured: remove the drug, and get rid of the drug dealer.

jules sand-perkins   September 5th, 2009 3:50 am ET

Liberals say that the public option is "essential?"
Liberals are not essential.

Let's not phase in any more Marxism.

jetty   September 5th, 2009 2:21 am ET

PUBLIC INSURNACE PLAN OPTION and all else is just an effort to derail the presidency of Obama by a failing GOP

Ken Williams   September 5th, 2009 12:02 am ET

I love it the hateful and angry left begins to turn on itself. People who told me this man was the messiah are now saying he has no balls. Oh and the argument that people who question the potential effectiveness of this bill are prejudice is a very convincing argument that really makes me want to support the presidents vision of health care. Most Americans want health care for everyone, but why can't we explore all the options and have a civilized discussion. Any bill that's passed will not go into effect until 2013 so let's not rush; let's get it right.

susan from bethesda, md.   September 4th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

The idea of buying insurance across state lines is another Obama
fantasy that is an insult to the intelligence of all Americans. The only reason insurance is cheaper in Kansas than it is in NY is because it costs a whole lot less to run a medical practice in Kansas, so doctors charge less. When your rent is 5 times as much in NY, and the wages you have to pay are 3 times as much, does it make sense to believe that Kansas premiums will suddenly be the same for New Yorkers? Of course not.

Andrew   September 4th, 2009 10:58 pm ET

How amazing that people who consider themselves thoughtful are able to be fooled by the same tired rhetoric. Those whose loud objections that a public option is somehow socialist or communist are dredging up the same sort of unreasonable fervor that gave us the period where demagogues like Joseph McCarthy were able to ruin the lives of good Americans for no reason at all with the shameful permission of so many. Shame on you.

elise Turner   September 4th, 2009 10:55 pm ET

I'm a liberal and proud to be one. President Obama, the public option is essential. Stand strong and pass the health care bill that you want for the American people. The American people voted you in office and believed in you. You can't become weak and give the Republicans the upper hand. These racists, Republicans and Blue Dogs want you to fall on your face. Please don't give them the satisfaction. They want to prove that you are indecisive and not capable of running this country. Not only that, their main agenda is to prove that a Black man is not smart enough to be President of the United States. When you pass this Bill with the public option, and it works, you will know deep in your heart that you fought the good fight for the little person and won for the little person. I know that you are a religious man and I'm asking you to pray to God for guidance on this issue; and you know what, his answer to you will be "my son you tried diligently to work with the Republicans and they turned on you; stand for right and I'll make everything all right." He will carry you, Mr. President. I know he will and he will provide you with the armor needed to shield you from the serpent's tongue. Don't concern yourself about the polls; they will reach above 65 again. Just fight for us, please.

Obummer - One and Done   September 4th, 2009 10:40 pm ET

Here's a good compromise: All those who voted for Obama will be forced to go under the government-run system. All who voted for McCain will be free to choose what's best for them and their families. Obama voters will have rationed health care and death panels. McCain voters will get the best care in the world. Isn't that fair?

PL   September 4th, 2009 10:36 pm ET

Health care reform is needed. But can't we start from looking at what did not work and change them, and keep what worked?

Obvious areas are tort reform, doing away with pre-existing conditions, removing state restrictions, allowing employees to carry their policy of choice to another job, giving financial assistance to unemployed to pay for medical insurance premiums, .....

The Democrat-dominated congress can surely re-write these laws if they care about helping the poor and needy without getting into a radically different system that will be fully under government control.
It should give us pause to worry about the power the government will have over our lives, our decisions.

I believe President Obama means well. But his credibility is tested. He is surrounded by advisors whose history of socialistic agenda have been published, Van Jones, Mark Lloyd who praised Chavez in Venezuela, , or by old Washington hands and their lobbyists company-Axelrod. Just google these names.

How could we not think of "socialistic agenda" by this president if you listen to the recording of these men that the president bestows power to?

No Hillary = No Obama   September 4th, 2009 10:35 pm ET

When all is said and done this is going to be called Obama's Folly.

john   September 4th, 2009 10:35 pm ET

They better!

manuel hernandez   September 4th, 2009 10:35 pm ET

)bama,Strong leadership is needed and the people will follow. Good Luck.

J.C. - Independent & Insured   September 4th, 2009 10:28 pm ET

If everyone must get their idea implemented, why not fill the exchange with for-profit private insurers, non-profit co-ops, and a Medicare-like Public Option? So everyone gets to choose which program they want to support. We have got 300 million people so we should have large enough insured pools to experiment with.

Another option is to lower the Medicare minimum age of 65 by 10 per year. In 4 years, all will be covered as the children and college kids up to 25 are now covered through parents. The initial shock to change will be minimized. At the end, we will save health care costs for much better outcomes.

A public plan should not be free. No matter how much or little one makes, you must contribute a percentage of your income with no limit to participate in it. This fiscal conservative will drop my employer's insurance to support it.

The Public Plan will cover the middle class, who is neither rich nor poor. Taking the Public Option from the middle class is damaging to our democracy. Mr. President, please think twice before you sign any bill!

Richie   September 4th, 2009 10:28 pm ET

SINGLE PAYER NOW. This is the only way to do it. Lower Medicare eligibility age each year. Employers whose employees age-in to Medicare are taxed on their savings. Come on, people, we need this!

Warren, GA   September 4th, 2009 10:13 pm ET

Amid the firestorm about the "public option", I have yet to hear a decent defense of the "corporate option", which we've been under the onus of for decades. Billions of dollars of "health care" money each year never make it to doctors or hospitals or health care providers of any kind. It winds up in the pockets of the bookies.
Remember Eddie Murphy in "Trading Places" when he figured out how the commodities scheme worked? Every month, you place a bet with your insurance company on your health. If you stay well, you lose, and they get to keep your money. If you get sick or hurt, you win.
Sometimes.
There's always a catch. They don't always pay out.
When someone can explain to me how a non-profit single-payer program that is affordable and open to all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions, with no threat of being cut off if you actually get sick, is worse than dealing with the gaming industry, I'd be happy to listen.
Until then, I'm still waiting for the defense of the "Vegas option".

manuel hernandez   September 4th, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Obama, Stand up to the righties, be not afraid of the guns. Change we can believe, dump Obama and lets try again.

Warren, GA   September 4th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Amid the firestorm about the "public option", I have yet to hear a decent defense of the "corporate option", which we've been under the onus of for decades. Billions of dollars of "health care" money each year never make it to doctors or hospitals or health care providers of any kind. It winds up in the pockets of the bookies.
Remember Eddie Murphy in "Trading Places" when he figured out how the commodities scheme worked? Every month, you place a bet with your insurance company on your health. If you stay well, you lose, and they get to keep your money. If you get sick or hurt, you win.
Sometimes.
There's always a catch. They don't always pay out.
When someone can explain to me how a non-profit single-payer program that is affordable and open to all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions, with no threat of being cut off if you actually get sick, is better than dealing with the gaming industry, I'd be happy to listen.
Until then, I'm still waiting for the defense of the "Vegas option".

Truth-Bomb Thrower   September 4th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Why doesn't someone tell these socialists that if they really wanted to bring down the cost of healthcare, then why don't the press for TORT REFORM first? If medical professionals did not have to spend a fortune on insurance to protect agains frivulous lawsuits, they would not pass the cost on to us.

To answer my own question, first of all the democrats DON'T CARE about lowering cost. All they care about is CONTROL. Second of all, the ambulance-chasing trial lawyers (the ones who profit the most from frivuous lawsuits) are one of the democrats most generous and reliable contributors.

Dave   September 4th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

It seems to me that all of the liberal nut jobs in this country would like to see not only the redistribution of wealth but also the redistribution of health care at the expense of the senior citizens by the way. Nice. This country can't afford to do both without making this country a banana republic in twenty years or less.

lil   September 4th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

We sure need something better than what we have and what the republican are trying to sell us.
What we should do is sue the republican for every lie they have told
about healthcare. These lies they are telling has to be a crime.

valwayne   September 4th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

9.7% UNEMPLOYMENT, $9 Trillion in Debt, 8 Months in Office. All Obama and the Democrats in Congress can talk about is cramming Obamacare, at the cost of trillions and trillions more, down the throats of the American people that they call UnAmerican and Evil Mongers! They truly believe they are the ruling class, and have utter contempt for the working people of America!

NC Dem   September 4th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

If he backs away from this I will be outraged. I am still a supporter, but I am angered by his waffling on Health care, Guantanamo, torture and additional troops to the middle east. Those were very specific issues where I hoped we had a politician that would make good. I am disappointed Mr. President.

David   September 4th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

For heaven's sake, what is so morally righteous about the word public?

And how does capitalism devour people?

I resent the whole wealth distribution story. That assumes a that the total amount of wealth in the world is zero-sum, when in fact capitalism allows new wealth to be created.

And I don't think capitalism or economics are amoral at all. They are based on the moral right of all people to their own lives and property.

eolufemi   September 4th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I'm glad the liberals are standing up to the extreme right. There is absolutely no reason people referring to the president as Hitler or a socialist should even be included in the conversation. I for one do not like the idea of being forced to purchase insurance from a private provider, when those very insurance companies have been screwing the American people for years. It seems like the insurance companies are being rewarded for lying to the people and further brainwashing the ignorant. What people really wanted was a single payer system, but the moderates and those interested in bipartisanship conceded way TOO early that this was not an option. As a result the compromise in the form of a public option got labeled a liberal idea, when in fact that was THE compromise. Don't compromise anymore than you have already compromised. If the republicans and their democrat apologist want to drive the economy off the cliff, so be it. The vast majority of the rest of us are global citizens quite capable of surviving anywhere if this America thing goes bust.

Louise in CA   September 4th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

This hysteria over health-care reform is ridiculous. What is wrong with providing affordable health care for all Americans? Have we become such an uneducated, ignorant nation that we confuse words for reality? Since when did the Constitution or any other document express that capitalism, private gain at the expense of others, and greed are essential ingredients for democracy? Since when have words like "socialism" become so scary that so-called educated people get hysterical and become knee-jerking idiots when agenda-driven politicians impede the will of the people? Think, people! Stop being sheep.

Wolf twitters 4 Palin   September 4th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Good... It is time someone stood up to these right wing liars and fear mongers. Nothing will satisfy them except a failed Obama presidency. I am in my sixties and have never seen anything that closely approaches the venom of this crowd.

Jerry in NC   September 4th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Why are so many of you afraid of a public option??? Could it be that you may have to pay more taxes??? I hear and read all this talk about higher taxes and government deficits....didn't hear all of you screaming about these things the past 8 years! It didn't matter to you that lives were being lost in a war that was secretly funded by borrowing from China. It didn't matter that unemployment was rising like a flooding river. It didn't matter that people were losing their homes and due to no health care, their lives. Oh no! Because you "HAVES" were too busy puttering back and forth to your high paying jobs in your high priced cars. Coming home each night to your high priced home eating only the best cuisine. The problems of the less fortunate never matter at all to you.....until some tells you that you may have to pay what you should have paid for years, so that someone less fortunate than you may receive much needed medical care, education, a slightly better quality of life. You greedy, selfish, disgusting people have the audacity to call yourselves AMERICANS!???????

Hugo   September 4th, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Essential to destroy what is left of our country! Tort reform, insurance regulation and correct the current dysfunctional government run programs that are ripe with fraudulent catastrophies! That might be a good start for the government to do instead of allowing millions of illegals to stay in our country, burden the people with a deficit the likes of which no country on earth has ever seen and covertly strip American citizens of our freedoms! This is a systematic agenda of destruction of our Nation, wake up America!

HonestMistake   September 4th, 2009 8:47 pm ET

Until you define low cost option in monthly premium amounts, it means nothing. I pay $250 a month for my private insurance with HealthNet. Will the public option cost less than that? I doubt it.

vic nashville , Tn   September 4th, 2009 8:35 pm ET

Past 3 weeks some organizations detour the debate

Obama please step do what you promise in the campaign

annie against biased news   September 4th, 2009 8:34 pm ET

house liberals should take obama, jones and all the czars, emanuel, holder, pelosi, reid, frank, etc and go live in the additional 7 states obama thinks we have.

Chris   September 4th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Hey republicans, unlike your party who gave President Bush the green light on everything, democrats don't let our President off the hook. All you ideological zealots on the right bent over and agreed with whatever the republican leadership told you to believe. Why did republican politicians bow down to the Bush administration for eight years?

Farrell in Houston   September 4th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

The insurance lobbyist are running this healthcare show. You've been punked.

diane08   September 4th, 2009 8:25 pm ET

Isn't it interesting how republicans, who pride themselves on being on the side of small town, middle America, is all of a sudden so sympathetic to the big monster insurance companies who have been ripping those same people off for years. These small town middle Americans need to stop and ask themselves what their party leaders have to gain by keeping these companies profitable. ($$$$)

People who have been paying insurance premiums for YEARS, only to find out their money paid for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! These thugs (insurance co's) find any way they can to keep from having to pay for anything, pocketing your money while you're on your death bed. And these are the same morally corrupt people that are expected to reform themselves?

We see how well that worked for the banks!!!!

Hotelier   September 4th, 2009 8:22 pm ET

How about people figure out what the largest health problems in the country are, then pool the money to get the lowest costs out there and fix those problems. Stop it with all these different pills people are taking these days. How different rules for different things. For instance: I would have no problems with helping a child or adult or elderly man or woman with a condition that happens to them beyond their control. I say help these people and stop being such a wicked person while you are at it. For all those people who are overweight, or heavy smokers, or never do any exercise I mean cut out those things to make yourself healty. Don't expect your neighbors to float that bill. I would pay for self help classes and things like that to get people to be healthy, but not a drug, no way. How sick can this country possibly be ANYWAYS??? I mean, it is billions upon billions of dollars to make people what we call well. That is the problem. Somebody must be getting away with something in all that bottomless money. Peace.

Working together.   September 4th, 2009 8:04 pm ET

President Obama has always wanted a public option, and he told congress he wanted that in the bill when congress put together their draft.

They are on the SAME PAGE.

Ryan, Council Bluffs   September 4th, 2009 8:02 pm ET

Wake Up People! You are Democrats you follow the polls! The polls show that HillaryCare was more popular than ObamaCare! And we all know how that went.

Government run anything is not a good option. Medicare, Social Security, the Post Office...

Let's take out some of the anti-competive regulations on insurers. Let them compete across state lines. Let them form more independent pools. Let them offer catastrophic health coverage. None of which are permitted by law now.

Jane   September 4th, 2009 7:59 pm ET

Why would anyone want any health care plan in which the members of congress and president refuse to be a part of? Shouldn't they be required to participate in this program as well. Anytime the "leaders" say something is "good for the people" but we get another program, a red flag should immediately ascend and we the people need to speak out for our rights!!!

The Lady   September 4th, 2009 7:57 pm ET

President has a dear suported of yours who campaigned for you because of issues like this please, please have a public option. This is about what the people want not some competion between parties.

Pa independent but fiscally responsible   September 4th, 2009 7:57 pm ET

Socialism does not equal progress. All you have to do is look to the devastating effects the cost of the health care has in France and Germany with a much smaller population.

Angi's mom   September 4th, 2009 7:53 pm ET

President Obama: A public option IS essential. My two children are recent college graduates. One is an intern without a salary and uninsured. The other is employed but whose employer does not offer health insurance. My insurance company dropped their coverage when they reached age 23, even though I'm still paying the same amount. The children looked into private health programs, but couldn't afford it. I am outraged when I read blogs saying that this nation is doing just fine under the current insurance system, that the govt should not get involved, that Americans are unhealthy because they're obese. I worry what will happen if my children break their spine, get hit by a truck, or get cancer. Many young people join the military, and not because they are necessarily patriotic or they like combat, but because at least they have a job and they have health care...and yes, it is socialized health care that works. And prisons take very good care of their guests too. American deserve better.

Ben   September 4th, 2009 7:51 pm ET

My vote and sizable political donation in 2010 and 2012 is riding on a public option. Put it in, or lose me.

Jane/Seattle   September 4th, 2009 7:51 pm ET

Could it be that Democrats are finally getting a Backbone? Is all the HOPE we have invested gonna pay off for We The People? OR will we get the incremental compromise that will continue to reward the HMO's and other players? Will the final bill be so watered down that nothing will change? Will that a clause to punish us (with a 2.5% tax penalty) for not having healthcare be in or out? What income level will be set to subsidize those of us who are working poor or middle class? Or will they set the Threshold so high, burt just low enough to keep hurting us more? We better tell them about how we will vote if they ignore our will for our suffering brothers and sisters! And that may just be for a moral alternative like Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders among others who take their oaths seriously. Campaign finance reform is the first order of business. Send all the 30,000 lobbyists home from DC and bring the long suffering folks from Katrina to live in the House of the American people. Can anyone hear my cry out for REAL Change? Please listen. We are begging you to save the children, to save us all.

T'SAH from Virginia   September 4th, 2009 7:47 pm ET

The PUBLIC OPTION is important in this bill ONLY because the PARTY OF NO does not want it!!!

We – the democrats of America – need to STOP allowing the Party of NO rule us – just like the Iraq war – the democrats gave in and should not have!!!

The public option is necessary in this bill because I want to switch from my current insurance to an option that FITS my pocket MORE!!! Medical cost is outrageous and the insurance companies are ripping us off!!!

Nothing 'Stand Up' about Sen. John Ensign (R-NV)   September 4th, 2009 7:47 pm ET

A public option will reduce excessive costs, waste and abuses. It's obviously a minimum requirement for real health care reform.

Other than the reckless right shouting louder and touting guns at political events, there really doesn't seem to be a very good counterargument.

At best, the tools believe they're protecting freedom by opposing a public option, though all they're really defending are greedy executives' rights to make out like bandits from all those corporate profits.

Bottom line, we'll get something like the public option now, BEFORE THE SYSTEM IS TOTALLY BROKEN, or we'll have to get some kind of single-payer, universal health care insurance later, AFTER THE GREED HAS PUSHED THE SYSTEM OVER THE CLIFF.

(And any one of those frauds who says that anything more than a trigger for a public option is impossible knows that the system is breaking. They just lack the courage to go against the special interests and create what would quickly become one of the most popular programs in US history.)

Anonymous   September 4th, 2009 7:46 pm ET

There is no real reform WITHOUT a public option.

There MUST be a PUBLIC OPTION - no triggers, no more waiting!

Julie   September 4th, 2009 7:40 pm ET

It's called a public "option", which means you are free to choose this form of insurance if it meets your needs. Freedom of choice. I don't have that where I work now, only 1 insurance company to "choose" from, take it or leave it style. To say that private insurance can't compete is really doing a major disservice to our smart business community which I'm sure will find a way to keep up their profits. None of them have plans for giving up and going out of business. They'll have to compete..........oh yeah, free market captialism at its best. Final word is I want the opportunity to choose the plan that best suits my needs not a corporate bottom line, executive compensation package, or shareholders returns of a health insurance company.

bess   September 4th, 2009 7:33 pm ET

why does everyone keep using the euphamism "public option" instead of the correct title "Government Run"? Oh, wait. Yah, that's why.

Winkzilla, Tucson   September 4th, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Capitalism is good, except when it devours its own citizens. Our moral guidance has been reduced to economics. The false-reality of religions has transformed themselves into carnival barkers on television. Our universities bubble up old unaccountable reason and rational thought, as they only perpetuate themselves. Atheists mock the false-reality of religions but have nothing of their own to offer.

We have fired our religion and universities. We now go to television and internet for our moral guidance. Capitalism has used the United States to its end, and now they know nothing else except to go world wide, and to push wealth upward here in the States. They know how to transform, through marketing, our human thought systems, and our evaluations of what is right and what is wrong, to serve themselves. When the word public is a bad word, we have become the coercive animal.

Bill   September 4th, 2009 7:31 pm ET

President Barack, you must heed your masters' voices. The liberal nuts, I mean.

Pat, CA   September 4th, 2009 7:30 pm ET

I think some of you liberals are a bit confused about current "government" programs - that you "throw out there" as examples of "socialized" government programs already in existence that "work." And these are the programs you always like to cite:

1. Many of you rail against Social Security recipients as some sort of pariahs who are "stealing" from you.
2. Social Security is NOT an entitlement program for the general public. It is funded by Americans who have paid INTO this fund for several decades of labor.
3. Medicare - this is paid for by Social Security recipients. A portion of their Social Security benefits are deducted each month to pay for Medicare. They can either go "straight" Medicare" or select a Medicare Advantage Plan that (because of group purchasing efficiencies) offers them greater benefits than straight Medicare.
4. IF the Social Security/Medicare are "going broke," it is in great measure because government has been STEALING from this fund in order to payroll ancillary programs (i.e. general welfare programs - for those who have paid NOTHING into the Social Security fund).
5. Highway and most infrastructure programs are funded by the states and the taxpayers of those states.
6. Education is funded to a large extent by property taxes of individuals in each state
7. The police department is also locally administered and funded – by the states.

One last comment: Some of you are totally comfortable with the inevitable cuts in Social Security to the elderly that Obama's plan indisputably espouses (health care rationing WILL become a reality under his plan – no other option to cut costs – it exists in ALL universal health care programs around the world).

I say this to you: THE ELDERLY HAVE PAID YOU WAY THUS FAR, SO THAT YOU CAN ENJOY WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE!

Have you no shame in seeing their hard-earned benefits decimated - either through cuts in the Medicare Advantage programs - or in age-related rationing?

What will you say to your mother or father? Will YOU pay for their care and take them in when they’re infirm?

And what would you like to happen to you when YOU become elderly?

annie s   September 4th, 2009 7:30 pm ET

No public option – no reform. Just another bill that allows the corporate money grabbers to fatten their coffers at the expense of the American taxpayer. What a sad, sad day for those of us who actually care about our fellow man.

Deuce   September 4th, 2009 7:29 pm ET

Hitler saw a purpose in destroying "the weak" in order to provide the proper space and purity for the strong.. Could this be Obama?

'RUB' THE CLOWN   September 4th, 2009 7:26 pm ET

Democrats need to be flexible and not copy the "my way or the highway" approach that Republicans notoriously champion. We, as Americans, are all in this together. Our greatest threat, especially, given the condition we're in after Bush, is DIVISION. Pitting Americans against each other is the classic Republican ploy. Don't play into their hands.

Lisa P   September 4th, 2009 7:20 pm ET

Jon in CA, you need to learn the difference between health care reform and an insurance industry lobbyist's wet dream. One significantly lowers costs and provides people real choices, the other just makes even more obscene profits for the usual suspects without any added responsibilities or expenses - we'll mandate coverage, support whatever arbitrary premiums the companies decide to charge with tax dollars (everybody's money!), dump the "uninsurables" on Medicare and then complain about how expensive government-run health care is. Oh, but we'll have tort reform so quacks aren't punished and their victims aren't compensated and we'll circumvent the current state-based regulatory system in favor of... no regulation at all! Reform or bald-faced money grab: guess which one your "plan" is?

Liz T, Tucson   September 4th, 2009 7:12 pm ET

Single payer should be back on the table and should always have been there. Anything short of that is caving to right wing pressure from the start.

Ed   September 4th, 2009 7:11 pm ET

Representatives Woolsey and Lee are correct there needs to be some low cost alternative in the health care exchanges that will be set-up by most of the proposed legislation. In their view this needs to be a public option, but I am not convinced. One alternative would be a government subsidized co-op that would be run by a nonprofit public board (not government). This would require that any legislation place these co-ops at an even playing field with private insurance companies in negotiations with health care providers. This combined with other reforms limiting the excesses of health care insures, drug companies and hospitals will not only make health care costs go down, government will continue only to play an regulatory and advisory role for the health care that most people receive. This combined with cutting waste in Medicare and Medicaid (estimated at $200 to 300B) would further reduce tax payer costs maintaining the health care delivered by these essential government programs.

I seems to me that there maybe some viable options to the "public option". If I am wrong then the Congressional Progressive Caucus has done a terrible job of getting the message out. This being said I hope members of these progressive caucuses realize that this maybe their opportunity to start reform going in the right direction and that unlike their conservative counterparts know the value of compromise in governance.

Ram   September 4th, 2009 7:10 pm ET

Why are people blaming Republicans for the bill not getting through. Democrats have 59 out of 99 senators and 58.5% of house of representatives. Blame yourselves democrats for whatever is not included in the bill.

Neal Kaye   September 4th, 2009 7:00 pm ET

Public Option? BS! It should, correctly, be called the "Government Option". Because that's what it's going to lead to, complete government takeover of Healthcare. And then we can wait for months (or years) for a cancer operation, just like our friends in Canada and the U.K. Won't that be fun?

mike   September 4th, 2009 6:59 pm ET

You want it? You pay for it. Not me.

ail in Riverside, CA   September 4th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

Public Option = Choice. A public option is essential to the health reform bill. For those of you who don't want it, continue to send your hard earned money to the insurance companies.

Huh   September 4th, 2009 6:55 pm ET

Boy, california has some weird poiliticians,especially the female ones who are infatuated with the communist dictator from cuba.Birds of a feather????

Turnabout is Fair Play   September 4th, 2009 6:53 pm ET

Ernie in LA September 4th, 2009 6:32 pm ET

Obama needs two testicles and be a man and start leading. He goes on vacation when the US is falling apart. How can he golf or get his mind on anything else if he really cared about us? He is a joke and so is the company he keeps.
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Dude, get off it, former president idiot went on a month long vacation TWO WEEKS after getting elected and I didn't hear fools like you spouting off about that. Give it a rest.

ran   September 4th, 2009 6:50 pm ET

Yes. President Obama with the Democrats go it alone now. The GOP have no intention of voting for any bill.

I say give us single payer non-profit universal health care.

Then go on to energy and immigration again with out the GOP because they will not support or vote on any of these issues either.

Reagan was wrong   September 4th, 2009 6:50 pm ET

Allright, it's official. Reading the comments on this and other blogs it's clear that the GOP has congealed into a small group that, no matter what's being discussed, they will talk about

Socialism
Death Panels
Van Jones

The GOP is now The American Stupid Party. I am as interested in their opinions as I am in those of the crazy guy who's always yelling at cars down by freeway.

dan   September 4th, 2009 6:46 pm ET

I agree that a public option is a very good way of regulating the minimum coverage prices that insures offer. Without the public op. these insures could just come together again and agree on a much higher minimum coverage cost than is fair. I always worried why the new fed agency that this bill creates couldn't just set regulations that say minimum coverage must be non-profit and require that they offer them in order to be able to offer expanded coverage.

abc123   September 4th, 2009 6:45 pm ET

There are many reforms that could increase competition in the insurance market short of a "public option".

Wade   September 4th, 2009 6:44 pm ET

NO PUBLIC OPTION.

The feds waste enough of my tax dollars.
I will not have them waste even more of it on another poorly run government program.
It's bad enough I'm forced to pay into SS and Medicare, which I know will be completely bankrupt by the time I'm old enough to even use it.

Reform means fixing the current system.
Fix it.
Allow me to shop for insurance across state lines.
Stop the insane lawsuits that force doctors into having outrageous malpractice insurance costs and forces them to run every test on the planet even if they are not needed.
Stop hospitals from charging $10 for an aspirin.
Stop insurance companies from dropping you without cause or denying you coverage for pre-existing conditions.

A government option will not make any of these situations go away.
It will only cost the tax payers even more money.

REGULATE.

CRob   September 4th, 2009 6:40 pm ET

Im all for a public option under 1 condition. Those that vote for it are the ONLY ONES that pay for hit. Im sick and tired of the middle class getting stuck paying for all these entitlement programs.

Clay   September 4th, 2009 6:38 pm ET

You're darn right a public option is essential. Anyting less will simply mean that the insurance lobbies and the GOP have spread enough money and lies to buy enough senators and congressmen to defeat what every thinking and caring individual in this country knows we need. All arguments to the contrary are based wholely on misinformation, prejudice and ignorance.

Jon in CA   September 4th, 2009 6:36 pm ET

"House Liberals tell Obama Public Option is essential"

American Citizens tell Obama NO MORE Government Takeovers!!

You decide Obama.... appease your socialist liberal cohorts and LOSE the Presidency....

Or listen to the American People and offer "reform" NOT a Government Takeover – and possibly have a shot at re-election.

REFORM is:
- Interstate Competition
- Tax-credits for non-employer paid premiums
- Tort Reform
- Extension of Medicaid for those deemed "uninsurable"

Mike in MN   September 4th, 2009 6:34 pm ET

I've even been hearing that some on the far left are saying if Obama does not push a bill with a public option and does not pull out of Afganistan, they will find a someone who will and challange him in the 2012 primary.
Of course is he does that he might not get re-elected in 2012 anyway.
Did not take long for the Democrats to turn on themselves.
Fun to watch.
Obama the uniter, that's funny. Well he has united the conservatives anyway, I'll have to give him some credit.

Ernie in LA   September 4th, 2009 6:32 pm ET

Obama needs two testicles and be a man and start leading. He goes on vacation when the US is falling apart. How can he golf or get his mind on anything else if he really cared about us? He is a joke and so is the company he keeps.

Moe, NY   September 4th, 2009 6:23 pm ET

CNN what did you have to entitle this article "House liberals tell Obama public option is essential"???? Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows if there is no public option, then it will be a total failure...a win for republicans/conservatives, insurance lobbyists....a win for lies, hate and corporate america. A total loss for the uninsured in this country.

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