September 8th, 2009
01:43 PM ET
4 years ago

Baucus plan draws lukewarm reax from Grassley

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Democratic sources say Baucus will likely make that decision before the president's speech tomorrow night.
Democratic sources say Baucus will likely make that decision before the president's speech tomorrow night.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – A copy of the 18-page health care proposal from Sen. Max Baucus, obtained by CNN from both a Democratic and Republican source, reveals more detail about the Finance Committee chairman's proposal.

Read the plan full here (pdf)

A source close to Republican Sen. Grassley tells CNN that in addition to the problem he has with the fee on insurance companies, a concern he expressed on CNN this morning, he also does not like the overall price tag, which he thinks will be about $880 billion. The Iowa senator had been hoping for something in the $750-$780 billion ballpark.

Democratic sources tell us that Baucus will use today's 2:30 pm ET meeting to gauge whether he can get a deal with the Republicans in the so-called "Gang of Six," especially Grassley and Sen. Mike Enzi, or whether he will have to move on and schedule a Finance Committee markup without a bipartisan agreement.

Democratic sources say Baucus will likely make that decision before the president's speech tomorrow night.


Filed under: Charles Grassley • Max Baucus
soundoff (42 Responses)
  1. carlo

    Let's get real here. No Republican (with the exception of Snowe) is going to vote for ANY healthcare bill written by a Democrat, no matter how good it is. The catch is that the GOP has yet to write one.

    September 8, 2009 01:45 pm at 1:45 pm |
  2. Lynne

    How can Grassley seriously whine about the $880 bilion price tag after the Trillion Dollar fiasco the Republicans got us into because of their blind support of Bush's Iraq War and irresponsible tax cuts? He must be suffering from short-term memory loss! He has somehow forgotten the Repubs were in charge when Bush was running up record deficits. And now he (along with the GOP) has "discovered" fiscal responsibility? What a crock.

    September 8, 2009 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  3. Jim in Florida

    From CNN – "The bill for lobbyists, television ads and political donations has topped $375 million - or enough to pay the entire insurance tab for about 30,000 families a year."

    Obama raised 750 million in buying the White House. Guess that could insure a few thousand more.

    Hardly the 47 million that the Obama administration says has no insurance (that number also includes illegals).

    So, what is the point of the CNN statement above???? Inane at best. Slanted at worst.

    September 8, 2009 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  4. katiec

    Well, let's see.
    Baucus has received over $4 MILLION in campaign funding from health care businesses and Grassley almost $3 MILLION.
    Could it be possible they will support the insurance, drug
    companies benefiting from Health Care Reform??
    (These figures are several months old so hard telling what they
    are now).

    September 8, 2009 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  5. NJ

    YOU'RE KIDDING !!!!

    Grassley doesn't like the bill?!?!?!?!?!?! Boy oh boy if I didn't know better I'd think Senator Grassley is being a little disingenuous and is maybe not acting in complete good faith. But I know that couldn't be because Senator Grassley, and all republicans, put country first and party second.

    Remember "I hope he fails".

    September 8, 2009 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  6. Henry Miller, Libertarian

    If any of those billions involve having working Americans paying the medical bills of total strangers, the plan is unacceptable.

    And to you leeches who want someone to pay your bills for you, Cuba isn't that far away. I hear the medical care is excellent–if you're a member of the "Friends of Fidel" club.

    September 8, 2009 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  7. Dave

    Now can we take president Clinton advice forget the GOP.

    September 8, 2009 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  8. Penney Lansing

    I hope you democrats don't think the country is not watching this game with the price tag ever going up. The country just can't afford it now. I am wondering why if this program is so important to you, why didn't you shove it through before you pointed the country into bankruptcy earlier this year?

    September 8, 2009 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  9. Sharon Northern Virginia

    Out of Control

    September 8, 2009 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  10. Reagan was wrong

    Grassley, whose pockets are lined with $2m+ in Health Industry cash, is not interested in health care reform, he's just there to represent the Health Industry.

    Same for Baucus, whose pockets are also lined with $2m+ in health industry money.

    This Gang of Six was a stupid idea from the very beginning.

    September 8, 2009 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  11. Nea

    It dont matter what the cost may be the Republicans want to waist the Democrats time before you know it will be Christmas and they still will be debating about Health Care Reform. Republicans if you dont want this then move out of our way so we can get H.C. Reform done.Democrats stop playing with the Republicans because they dont want this, they are trying to win the next election.

    September 8, 2009 02:00 pm at 2:00 pm |
  12. nanbar

    Compromise is not in Grassley's vocabulary. The Republicans today are a joke. They always use the "slippery slope" argument. They are only interested in protecting the "status quo" of a select few. They have absolutely no solutions, except "don't change it."

    September 8, 2009 02:00 pm at 2:00 pm |
  13. Fair is Fair

    I read it. A lot of it makes sense. Still didn't see anything on tort reform though. Not bad for a first draft.

    September 8, 2009 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  14. RJ- GA.

    What a hypercrit ! The entire Republican party stood up and saluted President Bush when he started the Iraq War ! They allowed the true costs of the war to be off the books and now that they lost the presidency claim they are acting as fiscal conservatives, yet once again ! These are the same architects of the now forgotten savings and loan scandals! These idiots are mocking the American people as they pull off the greatest rope-a-dope in modern history !!! The insurance executives are laughing themselves silly !!!

    September 8, 2009 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  15. RJ- GA.

    P.S. Baucus has been against the public option from word one ! He is really a Republican masking his true beliefs! Where do these guys come from ? Health care has doubled in the last 10 years and they blame the American public for using too much health care ! Sounds like both parties are off the books insurance employees !!!

    September 8, 2009 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  16. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA

    The only republican it looks like we can count on is Sen. Snowe and she's for a "trigger" plan. I say to hell with the rest of the republicans, let's get's Snowe's vote and get this done.

    September 8, 2009 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  17. Florida Joe

    Of course Senator Grassley has a problem with a fee for his insurance company buddies............But he has NO problem with the American people being driven into poverty by 25 to 30% yearly increases along with decreases in coverage.............The Repubs will never go along with anything the President or Democrates propose.......They are the party of NO and hopefully our country can become the party of NO REPUBS!!
    Forget them

    September 8, 2009 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  18. Florida Joe

    Of course Senator Grassley has a problem with a fee for his insurance company buddies............But he has NO problem with the American people being driven into poverty by 25 to 30% yearly increases along with decreases in coverage.............The Repubs will never go along with anything the President or Democrats propose.......They are the party of NO and hopefully our country can become the party of NO REPUBS!!
    Forget them

    September 8, 2009 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
  19. Voted4HealthCare

    Grassley and Enzi have No intention on voting for any health care by their ridiculous rhetoric and immoral lies. Their nonsense in the misguided "Gang of 6" should NOT be allowed to obstruct the process any longer. Enough.

    The majority in America supports moral reforms with a compassionate public option. Health Care Now, as we elected Congress to do.

    September 8, 2009 02:25 pm at 2:25 pm |
  20. Sniffit

    Who cares? Grassley LIED to his constituents about death panels and a whole host of other things. Why anyone would entertain anything the old fart has to say or would give him the slightest opportunity to engage in a bait-and-switch like this thing with Baucus no doubt was...promising he'd behave reasonably in response to Baucus' proposal when he obviously intended to pooh-pooh it from the get-go...is beyond me. IGNORE THE GOP. LISTEN TO WHAT AMERICA TOLD YOU ON NOVEMBER 4, 2008. WE WANT HEALTH CARE REFORM NOW!!! SH-T OR GET OFF THE POT!

    September 8, 2009 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |
  21. Grassley want reform...

    the reform Grassley is
    Premiums go up 10% every year (in 5 years we'll have to choose between health insurance and food).
    Insurance companies continue to dictate what services our doctors can provide (not interfering into doctor patient relationship)
    Ins. companies dinying coverage for pre-existing conditions (your great grandmother died of cancer. Therefore you are predisposed to it)

    September 8, 2009 02:41 pm at 2:41 pm |
  22. GI Joe

    If Snake in the Grassley is going to be the dictator in this country, at least let the people for ALL states vote next year whether or not we want him back in DC.

    He's a liar and a fear-monger. Right-wing fringe leader, not wanted by most of us.

    September 8, 2009 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  23. Emma

    I have one question........................

    WHERE IS YOUR PLAN?

    September 8, 2009 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  24. Kevin in Ohio

    Wow....taxes and penalties abound in this. And NO tort reform mentioned whatsoever! Forget it. I ain't playin'....and I ain't payin', either.

    September 8, 2009 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  25. MonRob

    My reply to Baucus: stick it!

    September 8, 2009 02:53 pm at 2:53 pm |
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