WASHINGTON (CNN) – Surrounded by a group of parents clutching pictures of their special needs children, two Republican members of Congress stood in front of the Capitol on Tuesday and warned that President Obama's proposed health care system will lead to a rationing of care for children with disabilities.
GOP Reps. Trent Franks of Arizona and Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington said at a news conference that government-run health care systems, wherever they exist in the world, inevitably force health providers to refuse care to people with chonically-ill family members in order to reduce costs. Both members of Congress said the issue hits close to home: McMorris-Rodgers has a son with Down Syndrome, and Franks was born with a cleft palate.
"Whenever there is pressure on government to cut costs, and that is ostensibly the purpose here, the reality is a lot of times the doctors take their hands off the situation," Franks said. He also predicted that the president's health care legislation will lead to "the largest expansion of abortion since Roe vs. Wade."
The two Republicans then heard from nearly a dozen parents who claimed that their disabled children would be discriminated against under the Democratic plan. Several pointed out that the President's health care adviser Ezekiel Emanuel - brother of White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and a frequent target of the presidential plan's critics - has written articles in the past in support of rationing care. Emanuel has since said his thinking has changed on the matter.
McMorris-Rodgers could not point to any specific language in the legislation currently before Congress that would deny health care to disabled children, but she said she and the families were worried that a government-run health insurance plan would give power to a government bureaucrat who would be able to decide whether or not "certain procedures or certain devices" would be covered for individuals.
The independent fact-checker PolitiFact wrote last month that there "is no panel in any version of the health care bills in Congress that judges a person's 'level of productivity in society' to determine whether they are 'worthy' of health care."
Asked if she could elaborate specific proposals to help low-income people with disabled family members purchase health insurance, McMorris-Rodgers said she supports tax breaks and savings accounts for affected families. The congresswoman co-sponsored a bill to create such accounts in February.
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Can they stoop any lower? The Republicans voted to deny healthcare coverage for needy children under the Bush administration...Now they are claiming that THEY are the defenders of healthcare for kids? SHAME ON YOU!
when have the republicans cared about the diabled?
my other thought about this is... is rationed care a bad idea? why is it that disabled are treated better than an average citizen?
I am done with these Republicans. Enough of the fear mongering. CNN, stop trying to be Faux News Jr. Please report real news.
The independent fact-checker PolitiFact wrote last month that there "is no panel in any version of the health care bills in Congress that judges a person's 'level of productivity in society' to determine whether they are 'worthy' of health care."
What a twisted lie. The legislation for Obama's "Independent Medicare Advisory Council" (IMAC) was sent to Nancy Pelosi by Peter Orszag on July 27, 2009. The legislation isn't in the bill yet, but its all ready to be inserted at the last minute.
WHAT LIARS!
America's current system kills more children then any other world power and most 3rd world nations. Obama's reform is by FAR better then what we have today.
If you love the children, then vote yes to Obama's reform and stop the current legal genocide that the insurance companies are making a "KILLING' from.
Just more LIES from the GOP idiots. They have no shame and no honor.
Fearmongering at its best. Never thought this could happen in this day and age. How archaic.
Now that's just low....
you lie!
This is the meat of the story..."McMorris-Rogers could not point to any specific language in the legislation currently before Congress that would deny health care to disabled children", but they encouraged parents to worry about it anyway. More scare tactics! How dare you use your children to lie to the American people!
STOP THE LIES REPUBLICANS!!!
first the grandmas, now this. next we'll be hearing that Obama is going to personally kick your puppy if you agree with health care reform. here's a novel idea ... DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE!!! EDUCATE YOURSELVES on the FACTS, then make your OWN decisions.
What we seem to be getting from Washington is more partisan bickering by posers pretending to be legislators. I still can't believe they think they had the time to censure What's-his-name for blurting out the truth at an inconvenient moment! Have they got too much time on their hands? Maybe we should propose a national referendum to cut their pay in half and limit the length of the Congressional sessions. I mean, if all they're going to do is pass resolutions condeming one another, they could just "blog." We'd save millions.
Once again we are hearing more hyperbole in the health care debate. Fear tactics seems to be the only thing people can use to oppose health care reform. What these congressmen have said is utterly ridiculous and they and everybody else should know it. Why can't people be rational in this debate? Just say you don't favor health care reform. That is the bottom line. There are those that think everything is OK and there are those that don't. Pick a side. And why is it that for Republicans every solution to every problem is a tax cut. It makes me want to hit my head on a wall. People need to accept that some type of reform is needed. Instead of making false claims and creating fear, put out ideas. Jeesh.
Then maybe they should get to work and make sure that there is something in the bill that would prevent denying health care to the disabled.
Rather than helping, they are only trying to cause more problems.
This will cause problems for a week or so, then some other Republican will hear Rushs call to action. Just like call out long wolfs.
Here we go again with more GOP lies and fear-mongering. Perhaps Republicans could rub their two collective IQ points together and come up with a viable alternative. Oh, wait, I forgot – they couldn't care less about healthcare for children or anyone else except for themselves.
More scare tactics from the Repugnants. If you want to see rationing of care for disabled children, check out what the private insurance companies are doing to preserve those multimillion dollar salaries for their executives.
Not only that, but they will have a committee set up to go around and depants all elders wearing depends. It's true, even though it's not in any of the bills, there will be a 'depants grandma' committee.
This already has been proven fasle! They need to get a life!
So this is the lie du jour for the GOP...what a disgusting bunch of people.
What is this, Berlin 1938?! How about these republican morons get off the stupid train and realize how good they have it.
OMG! Fear this, fear that, the monster is waiting for you, it's going to be horribler, quick.. do nothing before change gets you!
Abe is rolling as his party slowly dismantles itself and continues to be an opposition party. These politicians should be ashamed of thier childish behavior and words, but like a child, they don't/can't comprehend thier pettiness.
Given the quality of honesty from the GOP, this obviously means rationing won't happen.
Stop this! I suffer a long term illness, my sister is brain injured, my daughter has palsy and my gentics for the rest of my family makes health risks possible (your too I'm sure)......I don't agree with this....
Here we go again! More WMD (Weapons of Mass Distractions) from the GOP. Let's stay with actual facts, PLEASE!!
What a load of garbage! The GOP is a stinking pile of refuse!
Idiots!
The R's have nothing else to fall back on but lies. Worked getting us into Iraq. Maybe it will work keeping us from getting healthcare reform.
Load of crap. Republicans, grow up.
Preying on the fears of families with disabled children is as low as you can go.Have you people lost any sense of decency?
OK, Obama, call them out.
I live in a country that happens to have socialized health care and this:
"GOP Reps. Trent Franks of Arizona and Cathy McMorris Rogers of Washington said at a news conference that government-run health care systems, wherever they exist in the world, inevitably force health providers to refuse care to people with chonically-ill family members in order to reduce costs."
is an outright LIE. I have been disabled since birth and never have I been refused any treatment.
Shame on these people for spreading such vile misinformation on countries the United States are supposedly on good terms with.
isn't there any kind of law in this country that prohibits lawmakers to stand and make false comments to mislead the american people, isn't there any law that prohibits lawmakers to outright lie to the public, where do we live for crying out loud GOP enough is enough.
ok, this is just too much. I just read up on another thing this health care reform will do. It's going to euthanize all elephants because it's the republican mascot. Save the elephants, vote no on this health care reform.
"Emanuel has since said his thinking has changed on the matter."
And when did Ezekiel "Dr. Mengele" Emanuel's mind change? Hmmmm, oh yeah, as soon as people had time to read the democrat bill and realized how awful it is.
What many seem to forget is that the for-profit insurance companies are already "rationing" care far more than a public option would. Does no one out there remember the teenage girl in California who died because her insurance refused to cover her transplant surgery (at least until 1 hour before she died– a bit late to my mind!)?
While the Republicans are out lying to parents of disabled children...Bernanke announces the recession is ending and the stock market is up AGAIN today.
Keep making yourselves irrelevant Republicans. The adults are busy solving real problems.
omg, Republicans... please stop this. It's so embarrassing.
When did this change? When did the cause of supporting the sick, elderly and disabled switch to the Republican Party?
Ted Kennedy is rolling his eyes in heaven...
OMG!! First the Party of NO talked about Grandmas; then illegal aliens; ALIENS (lol); death panels and now handicap children?????? Why in the world would a REFORM health care plan eliminate Handicap children?????? That is so much BULL because NOW, they have HEALTH CARE for ALL children and there is NO stipulation that says "handicap children' are exempt!!!!
Next, the REPUBLI-CAN'Ts would say the bill will EXCLUDE children born by children, tall people over 7 ft, short people under 4 ft, people with 4 fingers, people with 1 foot, black-hair people, red heads, people that disrupt the MTV awards show, JUST PEOPLE!!! lol
MORE LIES from the Party of LIES, hate, fear and division.
Disgusting.
More fear hate and obstructionism from the GOP.
Democrats the GOP will not support any health care reform bill so why not just do it any way you can. Just give us single payer non-profit universal health care now. Then go on to energy and immigration.
What amazes me is the number of people in this country who'll believe this nonsense and join the next Tea Party or March on Washington or whatever protest somebody devises to cause more trouble among our citizenry. The good thing about the internet is that more information is available to everyone. The bad thing about the internet is that more disinformation is available to everyone.
So now they are following their quasi leader, the quitter from Alaska, and they sound even more stupid than she does.
Using special needs kids for your political gain. Can the repugs sink any lower?
Never mind, yes, they can!
The republicans are having a feeding frenzy on the stupidity and fears of these poor people. Sick and wrong.
First it was old people, now it's special needs children. I guess they can queue up Palin now. I'm the mother of a special needs child and I don't have any fear that health care reform is going to result in anything negative for him.
And I love this part – "McMorris-Rogers could not point to any specific language in the legislation currently before Congress..." – but I guess her Ouija board told her or she used the force to conjure up that special needs children will be sacrificed next. It just keeps getting more and more like an SNL skit.
They HAVE no decency. Government run health care – like Medicaid and SCHIP? Really? I think I have seen everything now. Fear mongering, of the worst, lowest caliber.
I just love it when republicans talk out of their behinds.
Do you people ever check facts or just listen to what the fat man on drugs is going to say that day?
Read my lips: there is no government take over of health care in any of the bills moving through congress! Right on @ Christian Values.
Can the Republicans stoop any lower? Now they are using disabled Children as political props? The GOP will never regain power at this rate.
Here we go again. More scare tactics. This is really getting old.
Here we go...
Nothing but FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR...
Americans LOVE to stay afraid of everything and anything. They repeatedly ALLOW the GOP to prey on their common decency. They buy into all the FEAR MONGERING without every doing any homework themselves!!! It's just beyond STUPID.
What's next? Is the GOP going to tell them to jump off the cliff? I guess it's NO wonder Jim Jones could easily convince hundreds of folks to drink cyanide.
Its no wonder the rest of the world view Americans as STUPID and GULLIBLE. You need Healthcare Reform, but you are killing your own chances of based on publicized FEAR and LIE mongering by Republicans!!!
They are using their children with disabilities for political gain. The Medicare and Medicaid social services and health care system does take care of children and adults with disabilities. These Republican politicians are just too much! Are they the same who prefer institutionalization to community and family for people with disabilities? The Republicans are the ones who have consistently voted against any measure to improve the lives and welfare of children and adults with disabilities. They are the rationers – they want to ration benefits of citizenship according to free market principles. Give me a break! Not only do they use their own children for political purposes, but they turn every decent effort upside down for their own political and greedy purposes. Guardian and sister of a person with Down Syndrome and Special Education Teacher
Don't disabled children receive medicare. I'm pretty sure children with disablities get that. If not there is SCHIP which is a government health program for all children including those with disabilities. SCHIP was passed by the Bush administration. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo in other words, disabled children already receive government run health care. Do these people think the rest of us are too stupid to know these things?
all the more reason to move this bill through with reconcilliation. These people are souless.
Unbelievable. Do they really think that the public at large would allow such a thing to evolve into reality? Project much GOP? They have it exactly backward, today's status quo is already rationing care!
This is the result of 9/11. Injecting fears into 'now-fearful' Americans (although they were once brave, but not anymore) until they give in. This is why some people would argue (I don't) that 9/11 was an inside job by Republicans so they could easily use politics of fear to get their ways.
Obama and the rest of the Democrates DONT GET IT, they are all JOKES. If you worked for me I'D FIIRE THE LOT OF YOU. Democrates are jokes with their private government control agendas.
The party of voids. Voids in leadership, voids in idea's, voids in humility, voids in compassion, voids in reality, voids in courage, voids in ability, voids in statesmanship...
It's one tremendous black hole waiting to be filled, ripe for a rebalancing and, dare I say it, "clensing" of religious and financial influence.
She's too late, Palin (who is China speaking with investors, why I don't know) said this when the "death panel/plug-pulling" falsehood came out months ago........she must have been stuck on the tea-brain train to nowhere when it did.
You mean less money for the people that take in the money and dont do anything for these disable folks, in the first place?
The republicans and their outrageous lies!!!
Good Grief.....they are disgusting.
Will the lies and distortions of the GeeOhPee ever cease?! Will some of the fools in this country ever learn how to "read the truth" and not just blindly believe the rethugs?! Some people are beyond hope and just plain stupid! Anyone who actually takes anything out the mouths of the republicans for truth is seriously damaged, anyone who follows fixed news and believes it's real is seriously stupid!
The republicans prey on the ignorant and the poor. The republicans feed them lies because they realize that the ignorant and poor will not education themselves – but instead, follow blindly.
I would love to be a fly on the wall the day that these republicans have to stand in front of the Lord and be judged as to their worthiness on entering into heaven!
This is SICK. These republicans are SICK.
In Kansas my son's caregiving facility is facing a State appointed commission who by December will decide if my son's "home" will be closed forever. Yes, he receives medical care both at a community hospital and at a medical unit on site. What will happen when he has no home or if the threats are real he has no medical care access? There are some Pubs who have said we must take care of our own. They haven't a clue that it takes three shifts of staff to be his caretakers. Country first huh..............they have no idea what world my son lives. I'm just thankful for my son he receives excellent care which he uniquely requires.
Don't these Republicans have any shame, first they try to hide behind school children to criticize the President, now they are hiding behind disabled children. How cowardly can you get Republicans?
GOP Reps. Trent Franks of Arizona and Cathy McMorris Rogers of Washington said at a news conference that government-run health care systems, wherever they exist in the world, inevitably force health providers to refuse care to people with chonically-ill family members in order to reduce costs.
They need to tell this to Stephen Hawking. Apparently the British National Health Service killed him through neglect years ago by their reckoning.
Please everyone write these idiots, addresses on their web sites, and let them know that Americans are not that stupid. What are they thinking, fear over facts. We have got to stop this fear campaign! The republicans are in a fear feeding frenzy – lead by Palin, cheered by Joe Wilson, and now it has come to my home state Washington.
Suprise,surprise, another un-supported Republican assertion about health care. I wish they would show up and work on the plan. If they are worried about under-serving disabled kids, why don't they try to get something in the bill that guarantees it? Because they have no interest in these problems, they just want to stop anything from changing.
WOW, they just love to bow to the fringe loons in their party. Did they not learn from palin, there is not enough of those loons to get the White House back...thank the Gods.
Do you loons REALLY believe once the government has control of your health care that it will NOT do this? Rationing is an integral requirement for all universal health plans - they can't break even without it.
The GOP is the most unqualified representives I have ever seen.....They really have nothting to offer......when will they learn that fear and lies will not work.....what do we have to do?......hit them over the head with fear itself........NO JUST LET THEM CONTINUE TO SELF DESTRUCT
More Republican lies and fearmongering ...
Are there really people stupid enough to believe this garbage? No wonder Republicans hate education, voters who can think for themselves are the biggest threat to their existence.
These GOP hacks will do and say ANYTHING to keep the STATUS-QUO. If this is what they call FREEDOM OF SPEECH, I say give them lie detector tests and end Their RIDICULOUS stance.
Why doesn't the GOP discuss Sarah Palin's trouble deciding whether or not to abort Trigg in secret (or just have an in-flight miscarriage – she sure tried hard enough) or Rep Wilson's belief that "mongrels" should stay hidden? What about GW Bush's opposition to the Americans with Disabilities Act? I guess all the disabled veterans all were getting rich off the VA.
Right, Republicans are worried about disabled people. That's why they voted for all the tax cuts for the wealthy, lied us into a war, de-regulated the financial industry and relaxed regulations on environmental protections, all of which our country – and all the children – will be paying for for many years to come.
The GOP doesn't give a whit about anyone unless they have money. Period.
The Devils are in the details of this bill. Don't trust either side if you really care about these bills. Read them or abstracts of them yourself. If you do, there will be plenty of things the 72% of Americans happy with health care now will find troubling.
Remind your congressmen that you will remember there vote in 2010, 2012, etc... They can take all the money from health care special interests, and send all kinds of junk mail, Tv ads, and telemarketerish calls. You will still hold them accountable!
My brother is autistic. Death panels from several insurance companies decided that he shouldn't live a few years ago when we had to buy insurance. These "Christian" congresspeople have slapped every disabled child and adult in the face.
This is a NEW low, using kids for polical reasons!
Is there no level at all that Republicans won't sink to?
First it was that the government would kill off senior citizens to save money, now they're dragging out kids.
The parents should be just as ashamed to allow their children to be used like this by politicans!
This was inspired by Sarah Palin remarks about her infant son.
And I do not believe the healthcare issue is even what matters to the Republicans. I believe that they just want to inflict political harm to Obama by trying to make the bill that does pass, so weak and comprised, it will fail.
The independent fact-checker PolitiFact wrote last month that there "is no panel in any version of the health care bills in Congress that judges a person's 'level of productivity in society' to determine whether they are 'worthy' of health care."
Exactly.
Regarding items inserted at the last minute: That would be the last minute before Congress reviews and votes on the legislation. Items cannot be inserted between Congressional voting and being signed into law by the President.
Boy, I wish the people who post here would educate themselves before they click "Submit" ...
What is wrong with these people. This is why we need health care reform. People with disabilities and who are uninsured need help because they can't get covered or adequate health care now, why are these idiots trying to stop President Obama from helping people with diablities and uninsured people from getting health care. That's what a public option offers, the ability to not be turned away because of a pre-existing condition or if your "too ill" and considered uninsurable. How dare they twist this when it's the Repbulicans that are in "bed" with the Insurance companies now and are threated that they may lose their gravy train when this bill passes and everyone is able to get the medical coverage that is their god given right.
Regarding the proposed Independent Medical Advisory Council (IMAC): It would be concerned with "Medicare payment rates and other reforms."
There never has been and never will be provisions in health care reform to judge a citizen's productivity.
Anyone saying otherwise is lying.
Insurance companies do that now. Besides, when have the republicans as a whole cared about kids issues period?
Fear, fear, fear....that's all the republicans have ever touted. It got Bush elected again after 9/11 and they're now using it over and over again. Too bad most uneducated people are so afraid. If they'd only use the brains God gave them and check out all these outlandish statements, they might find most of them are outright lies.
This is just the "death panel" falsehood reincarnated. I am ready for a debate on the actual proposals contained in the health care reform bill and the alternatives. I'm also curious how people continue to get all worked up over these stories that have repeatedly been proven to be false. Fool me once...
I wish the GOP had come to the table to work on health care reform: they didn't. The GOP could care less about reform or your health ... just lie, lie and then more (expletive deleted) lies... and the foolish tea-pot people just follow along ...
Insurance companies already ration care; The woman mentioned last Wednesday: her company dropped her in the middle of chemo treatments and now she's dead... that's what the GOP idea of health care.
Too low to step on and too slimy to kick ...
They are pathetic. Republicans are idiots.. Those in Congress who spread this crap, and the rank and file throughout the country who just buy it up...
The only ones who are rationing care to the disabled in this country are insurance companies.
The Republicans are so low they could walk under a snake, why all of the scare tactics. Is this the only plans they can come up with.
Boy....when the conservative wacko talk show hosts get wind of this....we will have another they're killing grandma moment.
Now that is a good plan GOP.....just plain scare and fear....is there some school you go to for this crap?
CNN, I dare you, grow a set and expose these liars and their lies. What have you got to lose? What little credibility you have left.
The republicans want more war and death,and the dems want healthcare and save lives,tough decision.
These people are beginning to make me ill with their lies and fear tactics. Facts: no one is asking for government takeover of health care; we are merely asking for the choice of a public plan to complete with private ones. The President has emphatically stated that the government will NOT fund abortions. And neither special needs kids nor granny are going to be denied care. Actually, considering Republicans voted to deny coverage to needy kids during the Bush Administration (and considering they want to dismantle Medicare and Medicaid altogether) the only fear kids and seniors should have is of Republicans.
And what will they accuse the Democrats of proposing next?
Drowning puppies?
So why are the Repulsicans always using "the children" as their shield? Next up, your pets.
Abraham Lincoln would be embarrassed, ashamed, absolutely appalled at his party's hijacking. This is the most unbelievable behavior from supposed adults I have ever witnessed in my life. And the fact that it's sponsored, indeed fomented by the Republican party is beyond comprehension.
GOP - HAVE YOU NO SHAME ?
More lies from the Republicans. They don't care about anything except money and power.
Republicans – the party of home grown terrorism.
Lowest of the low Republicans.
Next year when I go to vote I plan to wear a tee shirt that says Democrat/Independent, just so I am not mistaken for a Republican.
Are you sure this isn't some Palin-inspired "You've Been Punk'd" episode? Ms. Quitter can come out now...
Stop it already. The GOP is determined to reach depths that would make Jaques Cousteau envious. Same old broken rcord. Since when do republicans give a crap about anything but a war or a corporation?
Will these psychos get off the rationing mantra!
They are obviously oblivious to the fact that health care is currently being rationed. They are determined to totally ignore the facts and continue to toe the insurance and special interests party line to maintain the status quo.
The Republicans have never lifted one finger to help the poor or needy but to hear them talk they are the sole guardian of the downtrodden.
They're policy is you are on your own and let the hungry eat cake.
What do we expect from the old, old, old, party
In socialist medicine the care a citizen gets is in direct proportion to their worth to the great society. Less productivity, less care. Hope we are not headed down this road.But this would be just what the far left wants.
OMG! First it's our elderly and now it's our children...you'd think they'd get tired of making idiots of themselves. Talk about Christian values, since when was lying and making people fearful a Christian value????
Morality...there's none in the GOP if they continue to tolerate this kind of misrepresentation of policy. I'm apalled. And, MOST grateful the GOP is no longer in the Whitehouse...
Shouldn't the headline be 'Republicans again lie about pending health insurance reform'? That's the story here.
I was wondering how deep the bottom of the barrel is the GOP is scraping.
There is nothing they will not use, no matter how untrue and disgusting.
Whatever..., but don't let the BUFFOONS back into the HOUSE!
Code word = Death Panels. Will the Republicans every give up? LOL
Copy from Sarah Palin. Did people forget she started all this. People forget about pulling the plug on grandma, now the disabled children some of this republicans are heartless. Take about taking advantage these group of people. They should be ashamed of themselves.
When you think that these hypocritical Republicans refused for years to allow health care for poor children !! This is SO disgraceful !
Right...because the definition of "pre-existing condition" doesn't include diabilities, born with them or not, in the minds of those who run the private insurance industry to pay for their personal jets and $30K toilets....
"What a twisted lie. The legislation for Obama's "Independent Medicare Advisory Council" (IMAC) was sent to Nancy Pelosi by Peter Orszag on July 27, 2009. The legislation isn't in the bill yet, but its all ready to be inserted at the last minute."
Have you resorted to peeking out from behind the drapes to check if the aliens are in your front yard yet?
Low blow! These republicans are desperate. Using innocent children as pawns of hate.
How many times do we need to get over this?
If Obama gets his way, it will not just be disabled children who will be shafted; it will be our seniors as well. Once access to medical services are universalized (which is Obama's ultimate marxist goal), there will be a lot less money and resources to go around and there will be rationing.
Also, Obama is on the record of supporting amnesty and drivers licenses for illegal aliens. If Obama and the rest of the corrupt democrats get their way, ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THEIR HEALTHCARE NIGHTMARE. Anyone who thinks differently are either dillusional or just plain stupid.
Not only are these comments insanely stupid, but these guys need to know the definition of a "chronic illness". A cleft palate is NOT a chronic condition (especially in Western countries). A simple procedure gets it fixed when you're about 6 months old ... end of story.
Americans aren't stupid enough to believe this nonsense. right? Oh wait, almost half of us bought the death panels lie.
Republicans are shameless.
Have they no shame? As someone who has worked with disabled children most of my professional life, it is ONLY the government health care programs that continues to pay for care for these children throughout their lives.
Remember when Ronald Reagan sign a bill decreasing nutritional standards for school lunch programs? Just thought I would bring that up.
Hey, aren't these the same guys who cut programs for the disabled during the Bush Administration. Are Republicans becoming Democrat lites? LOL
Of coarse there will be rationing. Simple math will tell you that! There is a shortage of Doctors and Nurses in the country right now. And if this debacle is passed, there will be 46 million more patients added. Get real...
What a sad story. Why do they continue to do this? Scare tactics. The Tea Parties use the same stuff. Half call Obama a Socialist the other half call him a Communist and a few call him a Marxist. Well which one? They dont have it together! The leader of the tea party said the crowd was a wide representation of America. Well to me, I didnt see any people of color, asian, latino, chinese etc.. America is a melting pot not just one race dominates this great country. Wake up and look around. Scare tactics is all they got. Shame on you Republicans.
They "warn of" this thing that isn't in the bill? Claiming that someting is in a bill when it is not in the bill, isn't "warn[ing] of" it. That is called LYING. Look it up sometime.
But CNN does not call it "lying," they do not call it "misleading," they do not "fact-check" or "truth squad" it. They report it as if the lie were a reality, rather than, as they themselves admit (way down the page), a LIE. "Fair and balanced" much?
Your massive bias in favor of a major advertiser (the insurance lobby, as well as individual insurance companies) is really obvious and you have no credibility.
This is just more scare tactics, I am a medical provider and this is simply NOT true. Further more, our private for profit Insurance Companies currently ration care in the form of denials. The following is the % of claims denied for cancer health care providers las year.
PacifiCare–39.6%
Cigna –32.7%
Kaiser–28.3%
This is the broken system our president is trying to fix.
This is beyond despicable. These representatives should be drummed out of office. To stand there and say that a sitting president would deny care to a disabled child is beyond the pale. This has really gone far enough. How much longer are the american people going to stand for this type of lies and mistreatment and want to know the real truth? Are we really that stupid that we can only listen to tea party express idiots and these boneheads who traipse out these poor families as a scare tactic on this matter? I just cannot believe that this is happening in America. I bet our neighbors to the north in Canada are thanking there lucky stars that they do not have this type of silly nonsense connected with their health care system.
This was the next logical step. The AMA and the AARP have come out in favor of healthcare reform, the AARP going so far as to spend time debunking Republican lies such as "death panels" and "sinlge payer" systems. Now the defenders of the health insurance criminals have been told by their masters to start spreading the lie that disabled children will be the target of the so-called Obama plan. Shame on them and shame on the people stupid enough to fall for their lies.
Lying, immoral cretins!!!
I am a parent of a special-needs child (a 7-year old recovering from a relapsed brain tumor), and I know EXACTLY the horrors and travails of being in that position, but these cretins are 180 degress WRONG:
The main threat to parents of special-needs children is NOT these paranoic fanatasies that the big bad bureaucrats will make some sort of eugenic decision that special-needs children are not "worthy" of care, but the VERY REAL AND CURRENT problem that our current health care system leaves these children hanging by a thread: the PROFIT-MOTIVATED insurance companies ration care TODAY, and there are countless REAL cases of urgent treatments denied or deferred; PLUS the absurdity that a parent losing a job (guess what, I just lost mine after 18 years!!) could lead to the end of treatment and/or financial ruin is one of the most BARBARIC, IMMORAL and HORRIFYING THING THERE IS!!
Republican Governor Arnold Swartzeneggar has already rationed the care for disabled here in California. The old and the feeble were the first to be cut out under his budget plan.
So Republicans think that a system of health care run by for-profit insurance companies doesn't ration health care to enhance their bottom lines. This despite all the evidence that those companies cancel policies of people who need expensive care as well as not write policies for people with pre-existing conditions.
Do they really think that Democrats are going to ration the health care? Or are they admitting that their own Republican cohorts will ration the health care in the name of budget cutting?
A question for you....have you bloggers read the bill or are you just taking the word of the pres? Get an education, read the proposals and then say the repub are fearmongers. You may be surprised once you become a free, educated thinker.
Franks and Rogers: I didn't think I could see politicians sink much lower, but then you two came along. If there's a hell, you just earned yourself a pair of first-class tickets.
Just a side question – why again is "PolitiFact" or "Fact Check" assumed to be accurate? Can someone explain to me why again these groups are trusted as "neutral"?
Lol who elects these people
Isn't this the same political party that fought tooth and nail against the passage of ADA? Didn't they tell us then that American business would sink under the burden of compliance? And now, suddenly, they care about disabled Americans. I am so touched. If they care, they should shows us by inserting language into the legislation that prohibits an insurance company from denying any coverage to a disabled person. Go ahead GOP. Show us how much you care about the disabled!