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So a "former" general has a better grasp of the situation than CURRENT commanders in the field? Yeah, sure!

OBAMA ————— vs. ————— BUSH.

To all those who Criticize Obama for the Chicago Copenhagen Effort:

Obama flew to Copenhagen to Canvass for Chicago.

Obama did Nothing Wrong in doing so.

Obama tried, just like all athletes participate in Olympics, not everyone wins.

Obama is Criticized by GOP for Canvassing for Chicago.

Obama tried sincerely, but did not lie to the Nation that Iraq has WMDs.

Obama did not cause 4300 US Troops to die in the Unjustified War.

Obama's effort to bring Olympics to Chicago is NOT A CRIME.

Bush Lied to the Nation causing 4300 US Troops to die IS A CRIME.

Bush should be in Jail. ———————————————————–

The only failure I have seen the current President fail at was getting bipartisanship from repulicans. Of course, teamwork from them was asking too much. If the repubs could fix this, why didn't they in the 8 Bush years?

All you anti-american bloggers probably weren't so "anti" whan Bush was in office. What happened to your support?

It is totally clear, Obama intends to abandon Afghanistan. Obama spoke to McChrystal one time since he became President, and you could see in the picture Obama released yesterday of their meeting, the body language of Obama, counting his fingers, and McChrystal on the edge of his seat with a frawn on his face Obama was telling him:
Don't embarass me in the press by telling the truth that he'd be blown off by Obama, Don't beg for troops, none are coming, Don't count on the Democrats for support, they've worked eight years to turn the public opinion against the war, and weren't about to stop tearing down our military now, and Don't complain over the next 10 – 12 months while we pull everyone out, just lick your wounds the best you can, and shut up about it. See you later, dude, I only had 25 minutes to flip you off.

It won't matter how many troops we send. The U.S. hasn't fought a war to win a war since WWII. We are too busy trying to play politcal-correctness, foolishly expect zero casualties, foolishly expect zero "collateral" casualties, and we stop short of doing what we could do to simply eliminate the enemy in one fell swoop. Britain lost in the Revolutionary War because they refused to give up their "gentleman's war" tactics and adapt to the unconventional tactics of our fledgling military.

The smartest thing we can do is to do whatever it takes to completely eliminate our need for oil. If that means HOA's have to tolerate solar panels so be it. If that means we build 100s of nuclear power plants, so be it. Once oil no longer makes the world go around, we can ignore those idiots in the middle east and let them kill each other off if they want to. Arm Israel to the teeth with every and all weapons, and unleash them if any nation dare attack. We've been holding them back too long.

As for a Palestinian state, they already exist. It's called Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

“This is a strategic moment,” National Security Adviser James Jones said on CNN’s State of the Union.

Something, John Grandpa McCain and the Bushies know nothing about.

As I recall during one of the debates during the presidential debate, John McCain said he knew where Bin Laden was and how to get him. Why don't McCain share this so we can end this war or all we are hearing is the sound of crickets I though so McCain.

Every war is an expression of failure.

"This is a strategic moment" – just like "a major speech" "an important announcement" can you get any higher in the grandstand? These superlative statements seem to be endemic to the Obama White House and mean nothing.

@B October 4th, 2009 1:02 pm ET
We find ourselves in this huge mess strictly because we spent the last eight years in the- wrong place-, and because of TOTAL lack of ANY leadership from Cheney and his puppet Moron Bush!
You Are SOOOOOO Right!!!!

"the president announced a plan to send additional troops "

Obama is a WAR president – you were lied to by his zombies.

All of you that criticize this President and this Administration will criticize him if he do or dont so i just PRAY that he makes the right decision thats best for the country. You can always change a stratergy when its not working so you can say he is going back on his promise or whatever but if thats going to help save Americans troops and win the war so be it.Whether he sends in more troops or not its about what works. This President have a hard job as it is and i believe he is the right man for the job. Im just glad that he is taking time to think things over instead of just pressing the button.

Condolences to the families of the eight soldiers who lost their lives, and families of all who have lost relatives in the past....May God comfort and keep you in these trying times.....May He bring a quick resolution to Bush's wars........Amen.

Personally, I think that we need a more strategic mission myself. We need to focus only on the Taliban, which is responsible for what has gone on for the past 8 or so years. I was not even quite 10 years old when that happened, but as I got older, I understood that the Taliban needed to be gotten rid of for good. We need to thank our soldiers for risking their lives for our freedom. God bless them and their families. God has a very special place for them, I think personally.

It was "they" who started this war and now it is "they" who think "they" have the only advice on how to fix it. John McCain and the rest of his cronies need to shut up.

And to think! . . All this starting happening since 1-20-09. . .8 yrs before that It was just BLANK. THANK GOD! we have a YOUNGER
generation. . . JETSON/IN, FLINTSTONES/OUT.

Obama/Biden

It is always easiers to break than to remake: The understanding of war
is that two opposing armies meet in battle; so what army is the USA
with its NATO allies fighting ? Afghanistan being a collection of Tribes,
including the Taliban, unless all Tribes in Afghanistan are brought to
the table to unify the country then there will NEVER be the emergence
of a Afghanistan Nation...and Peace...!

WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP, WHERE IS LOGIC...???????????????

Obama's naivity is evidenced roiutinely in his inability to make important decisions and ACT upon them. He waffles based on partisanship. He's like a deer in headlights and unfortunately, is taking the lead from Pelosi, Reid and now Jones along with other liberal bleeding hearts rooted in weakness! The results have materialized in his ill-gotten Stimulous Bill, a Healthcare Reform debacle, weakened National security, deficits 4-times greater in the history of the US and a jobless rate highest in 30 years!

This President is an empty suit and severely lacking in everything but reading teleprompters! Grow a pair and make a decision that is RIGHT for America, Barry! You can do it!

When the going gets tough, then we see who walks the talk.

This guy now affected by the radical philosophy our Barack Obama and is being blinded by the liberals. Get a life...

We should have finished the job the first time. Guess that proved Bush couldn't multi-task!!

We find ourselves in this huge mess strictly because we spent the last eight years in the- wrong place-, and because of TOTAL lack of ANY leadership from Cheney and his puppet Moron Bush!

Why do smart men and women insist that success in Afghanistan can only be determined if there is a WalMart in Kabul ?

Someone find and kill Osama bin Laden, and then get our brave young soldiers out of there. If he is not in Aghanistan, then get us out of there.

What ever Afghanistan is, including the Taliban, it is no real threat to the USA. The Sept 11, 2001 attack on the US was done by 20 guys.
It was not done by some turbaned army of barefoot AK-47 toting soldiers coming ashore in reed boats. The 20 guys could have planned their attack in any country on earth. They could have planned it in any city or town in the USA. They executed their attack from right here IN THE USA ! 20 guys !

Why do we have 70,000 + brave soldiers and gobs of equipment in Afghanistan blowing things up ? The tribes in the socalled country of Afghanistan, have been blowing each other up for hundreds of years. Long before the Ruskies blew the region up. Long before the Brits blew the region up. No, they are inclined to blow each other up. Let them, it is not our business. Their God(s) can sort it out.

If we reason that Afghanistan needs to be a stable democracy in order to prevent another 9/11 type attack, then we better invade and occupy every other "stan" in the region. Hey, don't forget the Baltic States, and Iceland either. Osama bin Laden could be there too you know. Let's not neglect Antartica ! He could be hiding there too. You know Lichtenstein may not have our best interest at heart either.

Someone get Osama bin Laden, and if he is not in Afghanistan, get us out of there. There, that is our 8 year old "strategic moment" !

Stop Russia from Supplying Weapons to Al Quida in Iraq and Taliban in Afghanistan.

Only then it will be possible to win the wars.

I did not think you wingnuts wanted America to get the Olympics. Fox, Beck, Limbaugh, and the conservatives cheered when they heard Chicago was eliminated.

On June 15, 2004, in the Rose Garden, President Bush claimed 'victory' in the war on terrorism in Afghanistan.

He said, "Afghanistan is no longer a terrorist factory sending thousands of killers into the world."

It's a simple as 5 words. GET OUT OF VIET NAMISTAN!!! Eight more young people lost their lives yesterday....and for what? Stupid, Stupid people conducting a stupid, stupid war. SO WHAT if the Taliban are defeated?? Just how is that gonna stop terrorists if they want to strike somewhere, News Flash.......TERRORISM IS NOT IN ANY ONE PLACE!!!!! Hello???????Hello????? Is anybody with half a brain there? We desperately need the money being spent on this insane war right here in our own country. Talking about cutting Medicare by almost a trillion dollars over the next decade and Still conducting this insane war. Our Government is disgusting!!!!!!!!

Gone is any mention of the US fighting a war of necessity, and of the need to defeat Al Qaeda. Now retired General Jones knows more about the potential fall of Afghanistan than General McChrystal. This Administration keeps throwing out there one flunky after another.

What do you say that we let the UN take over the MAJOR part of the war effort. Let some other country place 40 or50 thousand men in and the U.S. give the token 2or 3 thousand. Bar that or bring home EVERY sincle U.S. serviceman.
Screw the Taliban,Iraq,Israel and the rest of the middle east. If they don't want to live in peace, then let them kill off each other.
Sick of that part of the world

Jones doesn't see the Taliban returning? Perhaps he is not aware that just yesterday hundreds of Taliban soliders attacked US and Afghan troops. The attack was highly organized and lead, they had rockets, mortars and heavy-caliber maching guns. At least 8 US tropps were killed, 2 Afgan troops were killed and 13 Afghan police were taken prisoner, certain to be executed shortly. This was the largest number of US troops killed in an attack in over a year. Jones doesn't foresee the return of the Taliban? Maybe he needs to re-think that statement.

How many more failures from Obama must we suffer before people (Dems and the Media) begin to hold him accountable. While his failure with Chicago hosting the Olympics is a little more than an embarrassment – Obama's failures with the economy (unemployment near 10%) and with foreign policy (Iran and Afghanistan) threaten our prosperity and our very lives.

Obama is fast becomming outed as nothing more than an intellectual elitist with no true grasp of how to handle the job of leader of the free world.

It's a shame that so many have been fooled by him – only because he can give a good speech.

Let's look at some facts:
#1 The current Afghanistan strategy was decided on by Obama in March 2009.
#2 In May 2009 he picked McChrystal as the new commander.
#3 After taking command and assessing the situation McChrystal submitted a 66 page report that said the Obama's strategy would fail without more troops.
#4 The White House sat on the report for weeks, and staffers asked McCrystal not to ask for more troops because they didn't want to put Obama in a position to say yes or no. Meanwhile Obama went 70 days without talking to his commander in the field until they met in Europe this week.
#5 After the report leaked it became known that McChrystal requested up to 40,000 more troops.
Conclusion: Obama is now waffling on his strategy because he knows 40,000 more troops will piss off his leftist base, who would rather lose. Meanwhile every day of voting 'present' costs more lives. Obama is a national disgrace.