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How about the story where stimulus went to a company that saved 250 jobs...because the owner had to give them raises or they would find new jobs. Don't we want NEW jobs? How does help the economy. Obama is a fraud. You lefites just lap lap it up.

"Stimulus created or saved 650,000 jobs"
That from an administration at the White House that, if they are talking or writing they are lying.

Yes... What a lot of people don't understand is that the Stimulus was like a $787 billion dollar credit limit.. nothing different than some1 having a credit card with a 1,000 limit... and only used 250 of it to take care of things ... we have not even used half that money yet and things are turning around .. and then with the banks paying back there money we are just re-allocating that money to other things, but so many people don't understand that.... the way things are going we may not even have to use most of that money that was approved...

When we get INDEPENDENT numbers that I will care. Until then this is nothing more than politics.

I prefer a fairy tale with a happy ending like Snow White or Cinderella.

Yea right, where i live we are losing jobs left and right.

The people who live in my area all laugh whenever he speaks.

They call him the Joker.

Well, wonder how the republicans will spin this.
With their politics based on lies, fear mongering, hate, anger and hpocrasy, they will respond with their usual distortions, throwing
all integrity and honor to the wind.

Saved 600k jobs (possibly temporary) ,created 50k jobs Big Deal...
How many more lies do we have to endure.

Even using their own data this says each job only cost $230,770.00
What a sweet deal! Can we do this again?

The more jobs "saved or created" by this ponzi scheme, the higher unemployment goes, the greater our unmanagable spending driven debt goes, and the worse future prospects are for our children. Welcome to the third world.

Are those numbers from the same report that AP found to be full of mistakes/lies?

So, even if one uses the administration's numbers, that comes to $150,000 per job?

How do I get one of those? Or do you have to be a democrat ? After all, seeing who is getting those jobs, it seems to be a fair inference.

Show me written proof that this many jobs were created or that this many jobs were saved. But wait. how does someone prove that a person was going to be fired or laid off but the stimulus money saved their job. Its very easy for an employer to say that someone WAS going to be fired and we wouldnt know if that were true or not cause it cant be proven. we have to trust the employer when he says that someone WAS going to be fired? No, Im not biting. Show me written proof, swear on the Bible if need be but dont just TELL me and expect me to believe it especially when I can not see it.

I hope Americans realize that these numbers are complete fiction. When a company receives stimulus money for work performed, they are required to fill out forms that list the number of jobs created and the number of jobs saved with the money. Obviously, companies can only guess at the number of jobs, and they write a large number so the government gives them more business moving forward.

The forms are a gimmick that the government put in place to sell the stimulus package to the American people, with the hope that the people wouldn't learn how ridiculous the numbers actually are.

Where are all of those jobs again? I can't find them. I'm in Michigan.

Congratulations to the other 49 states. YOUR recession is over according to the GDP.

If there are so many jobs, how come the Army had no problem meeting recruiting goals with 2 wars going on?

Figures don't lie, but liars figure

For all the GOP handwringing about the stimulus, you sure didn't see too many GOP Governors turning it down, did you?

That many CZAR in Obummer's cabinet?

Oh yeah! Where? Sorry dont believe it. Everyone except the kool-aid drinkers dont believe it. Try again .

You have GOT to be kidding. Is this April Fool's day?

The most amusing thing is going to be reading the comments from the O-blah-blah lemmings. You know... the ones who really don't care about jobs because they're perpetually unemployed?

"YES!!! There's 650,000 more people paying taxes!!! Does that mean I get a raise in my welfare check?"

Goebbels would be proud of this kind of propoganda.

Name one.

Bogus.

Define 'saved' because Obama promised 4 million jobs for passing a trillion dollar stimulus. That has not worked and with no NEW jobs, Obama resorts to more word play.

Really, but we know this administration will say anything dont we.

I just wonder how many of these jobs will stay after all these stimulus dollars have stopped flowing. I hope that other things will come along to keep people employeed.

a major concern about the numbers that the administration reports on this matter is that it is supposedly a measure of 'jobs created or saved'. it is easy to measure jobs created, but it is a little more slippery to be certain about the numbers of jobs saved. i seems to be nothing more than a matter os symantics to make the claim of 'jobs created or saved'. it is unfortunate since the president and administration gave critics a 'gift' by setting this criteria.

Only progressive morons still believe what comes out of this liberal White House teleprompter..

Both USA Today and Fox had articles saying that there were MANY problems/mistakes in regard to this claim that 650,000 jobs were created.

In other words, there were NOT really 650,000 jobs created-–and that the mistakes were pointed out-–and a new report was supposed to be released with the "correct" number of jobs created.

Suuurrree it did. Thank goodness nobody in the Obumbles administration isn't a magical wooden puppet, or else we'd have to get some bull explanation of why their nose keeps growing. The truth will come out, and the "jobs" created by this will be far below what they are now claiming.

Would all thise whose job was saved by Obama please raise your hands?

Thought so.

More political spin from the Oblamo Administration

Yeah....Right. And I'm living in the land of Utopia in absolute luxury.

Wow this bunch is delusional, just yesterday they were caught counting people from twice to a many as four times to inflate their numbers, they must still be using acorn to poll for them.

Where is the article about all of the lies that were discovered, regarding these so called "jobs" that were created??

For example--bathrooms being remodeled with this money, jobs that only lasted 1-2 days, etc.---and people giving this information saying--"I'm sorry we made a mistake, and reported this informaiton incorrectly".

The bottom line..........There was NOT 650,000 jobs created--and these "mistakes" were supposed to be cleared up and a new report released.

It's false...but even if it's true, that's 230,000 per job! How is that a productive way to spend money?
The premise is false anyway...but the results they are bragging about stink as well!

they can all go clean my toilet

Ya just have to love the way the Democrats make or create their own facts out of thin air! "Created or saved 650,000 jobs???" I say PROVE IT! The unemployment figures disagree!

So... they are telling us it cost the tax payers $230,769 ($1.5B divided by their 650K of jobs) to create EACH job????!!!!! Even if you believed their bunk...what the heck kind of jobs were we creating at that kind of cost?????? It would have been cheaper to just hand the dough out to small businesses and said – hey – go hire yourselves about 3 – 4 people – here is enough money to pay them for a year!

It is bunk though – have you seen how they come up with these numbers of jobs created (or "saved")... It is a complete swag count provided by the group that gets the bucks... No validation that it actually is accurate, and all projects tracked MUST show jobs "created" to get the money, so the contractors will show on the books that jobs were new hires, even if they are just day labor, etc.

I'm looking forward to hearing the real numbers, the ones Obama's people haven't spun, inflated, and/or simply invented. My guess is that the real number is actually fairly close to zero.

We added 650,000 jobs, but how many did we lose? The stimulus package was supposed to create and / or save 3MM plus jobs. The bottom line is – what is the NET job growth? No spin. The only job increases apparently are in Washington with the growth of bureaucracy and their staff. The CZARS are included in the 650,000 number, I presume.

thats bogus and they know it....

SO why do we still have almost the highest unemployment in decades!

Please, this admin has done nothing but SPEND, SPEND and yet SPEND more, why don't they talk about that???????

Every Recovery Act job I;ve ever seen is for those with Masters and PHd's, or upper level management. All seem to be at the GS 12 level and up. How are those of us with Bachelor degrees, diplomas, etc, supposed to find these jobs. Are we doomed to shovel asphalt on the highway and not work elsewhere?

That comes to $230,769.23 per job.

Obamanomics is truely twisted.

What a joke!! Like the report of 129 new jobs created at a day care center, when in reality the money was used to "enhance" the compensation of the 129 current employees...............yeah, that's stimulus. No new jobs, just bonuses compliments our tax dollars! Great job Obama. We cannot expect the truth out of him, he has lied from day one and will continue to do so.

I believe that it is already too late to believe....

There is no way to prove you 'saved' a job. The only statistic that counts is the unemployment stats. The fact is that we LOST 3 million jobs since Obozo took office. Sionce he promised to create 3.5 million jobs he's now 6.5 million short of what he promised. Way to go Obamatrons; you've elected an empty suit.

Assuming that this bogus number is correct (very unlikely, but let's play the Obama fudge and nudge game).

Jobs created by stimulus: 650,000
Jobs lost by Obama: 2,500,000

Net job loss due to Obama's Death to Capitalism Policy: 2 million.

By the time Obama is through, there won't even be change to hope for.

The Obama admin cannot see the bigger picture. They are costing jobs!

This is absolute bull!!! There is no way in 'ell they can justify that claim. How could anyone know whether or not a job was "saved"? The stimulus (that our great grandchildren will be paying for) has admittedly help somewhat. BUT, as the bulk of the stimulus money has not even entered the "system" yet, how on earth can the administration claim such bunk? Another lie crammed down our throats!

Wow....really? 650,000! Maybe even a MILLION! Created OR saved!

I hear it's actually closer to a gazillion. I mean as long as we're making up numbers, let's say it created or saved a million bazillion.

They couldn't even create 30000 jobs. They had to lie about that pathetic number. Now they want us to believe they "saved" 1 million?

Well, if they are counting government jobs and teacher jobs then we have a HUGE problem. Those jobs will have to be "saved" next year as well.
The government DOES NOT CREATE JOBS.

Well, I don't think that adding Government jobs count...
What about the millions of jobs that were SUPPOSED to be saved by the Trillions spent?

Prove it!

Anyone who believes this is an IDIOT!

What a crock of BULL. The stimulus plan was the greatest theft of all times and Obama was the ring leader of the crooks. Where have the jobs been created? 16,000 were suppose to be here in NH but that never happened. The only one hiring that I know of is the Government as they prepare for the even bigger ponzi scheme they are trying to call HEALTHCARE REFORM. They should all be in jail with Madoff. Open your eyes America and look at history. The Federal Government cannot competently run anything without an overcost of trillions due to waste and fraud and just down right ignorance. "Oh but they meant well" just does not cut it as a response with the taxes we are going to end up paying.

First off, has anyone looked into how the government calculates how many jobs they've generated. Its pretty funny. Its all based on how many jobs 'should have been' calculated per dollar spent, but in no way connects to actual jobs that are as a result of government spend. Its purely hypothetical (fact).
Second off, wasn't it supposed to be 4 million jobs in year 1?
Third – private sector jobs are the only jobs that are truly healthy for our long term economy. Shouldn't the government be just asking private business what they need and getting out of their way. That would seem logical.

How can you even think you can really come up with a number on this. So to say the stimulus "saved" a job? Which ones would that be exactly? There is no way you can look at a huge economy with millions of jobs and now a record high unemployment rate hitting around 10% and say you are saving jobs when you can't prove any of it. Really you can't. I supported the stimulus...but quit the lies, please we are not idiots, and we know when we have been had.

have you been near an unemployment line lately?!!!

it doesn't matter how you spin this..... unemployment is rising and is now nearing the 10% mark..... the largest in 26 some years...

nice try..... but next time 'think' before you spin news that we can all see through......

Who cares? Where's the investigation about Obama plotting with Van Jones and Reverend Wright in Indonesia to ruin America with a radical socialist agenda after starting a war in Afghanistan with no troops and allowing Russia to invade Poland and raise taxes to form death panels?

remember the time Obama was in Columbus, Ohio at the graduation ceremony of the Columbus Police Department with the 25 new officers that were not cut because of Stimulus money? They got cut soon after because the city still did not have enough money. Guarantee they are within that count. Wonder how many other situations like this are counted....

The brilliance of Obama was in adding the term "saved" which is impossible to determine and is left up to the politicians to manufacture.

The calculation of 150 billion for 650,000 jobs is misleading because of the likely knock-on effects. Better to look at e.g. Maryland where further details are available – in this case 14,000 jobs are claimed from $225,000, or $16 per job.

And who were being these statistical numbers out...Keith Olbermann? Chris Matthews? Rachel Madcow?

It amazes me that there're actually people buying into this crap. Obama Been Lying can say anything to these idiots, he's a new "Julius Ceasar" you see, and they would bow. Poor America, what has become of her.

Ya right. I just picked up coffee...PROVE I didn't save or create 10 jobs.
How is america so gullible to believe this fraud of a president.

I think by now NO ONE really believes these dreamed up numbers. As reported by CNN, non partisan, independent view is that it has not created these jobs. Of course the white house is desperate to play with numbers to say they did something. Nobody is buying it.

How do I get one of these jobs and more importantly, what is the salary for these jobs?

Really? with folks loosing their jobs left and right around me and unemployment above 10%.....this news is hard to believe. I suppose the next thing we'll hear from the WH is that we're all millinaires but we just don't know it!!!

...and I've either lost or not gained ten pounds this past year.

If that's the case, then why did new jobless claims just jump 3.1%? Lies, all lies I tell you, all lies.

wonder what the net job gain or loss was during this stimulus?

Let's see, unemployment up close to 3%, (about 2.3 million jobs lost), and he saved 650,000 tax supported jobs that will require another stimulus to keep.

I don't see this as very positive. A net loss of jobs of 1.7 million.

I guess you can spin things any way you want to and some people will enthusiastically drink the koolaid.

Oh yeah, it's Bush's fault. He did promise unemployment would not go above 8% if the porkulus package got passed. (Sorry, that was obummer)

I don't think people realize that we were headed for a second GREAT DEPRESSION. Pres. Obama has really started to turn things around, but, of course, some will never give him credit for anything. It's expected.

This number is way too low. Our savior Barrack Obama saved the jobs of everyone that is still working. WIthout the Almighty, the US would have fully collapsed and everyone would have lost their jobs (except the government jobs).

Some how I just don't beleive, I wonder why? Oh we will have enough swine flu vaccine eeeeh maybe not, Our healthcare bill will be under a trillion dollars eeeh maybe not.

Haaaaaaaaaaaa are they seroius we have lost 7 million. The AP ran the correct number yesterday 30k. So 1.5trillion spent and we get 30k new jobs. Great job Owhiner now go play golf or take you 4th vacation you have deserved it. the 30 days you have worked in a year is hard.

yeah....it created 650,0000 jobs....maybe in CHINA!

This is one of the biggest political pro-Obama propaganda articles that you've ever posted, CNN, congratulations on stepping down to a new, lower level of credibility.

I imagine there will be more and more of these fictional articles, especially in states where the liberals who supported the stimupork plan have their butts in the wringer for re-election....however, your efforts are for naught...why? Well, how many of your readers, both liberal and conservative, are reading this article right now...and cannot assign or credit ONE job to the stimulus package...nevermind 650k.

Obama and his band of cronies are one and done...

Will somebody please tell me what a saves job is? This report is a joke. Amazing unemployment goes up drastically past 8% by the way Mr. President yet all these jobs are saved and some jobs are created at approximately 100k per job. Were the people that made up this report former Enron employees? What a farce!!!

I'm surprised they didn't come up with a figure of say 6,500,000. But, then they couldn't prove that figure either. Either way, it isn't relative, it is just a figure someone pulled out of their hat.

Yes, but what about all those jobs that have been lost and not recovered since the stimulus was enacted? Within the last week, one small town in Virginia has lost its major employer, International Paper Company. About 1,100 people lost their jobs and basically the town of Franklin will fold. Everyone in that small town depend on the tax revenue and other economic contributions that were generated by IP. Give us a break, prez.....it is only getting worse for us regular folks!

and pigs can fly

The numbers don't look that great, but i'm optimistic about 2010.

Why can't we just quit pretending and start calling the stimulus what it is. A complete and total failure.

I, and I believe I am not a lone here, am intellectually from Missouri.

You have to show me. I can no longer take any politician's word for anything.

Show us the data; show us how your used the data; let the citizens evaluate this claim.

How many were lost since the stimulus was passed? Spin, Spin, Spin. Obama doing what he does best.

Created or saved? This is the biggest line of crap ever.

I can't believe the administration will get away with this. After being promised that we would not go above 8% if the stimulus passed, why should I believe this.

Besides, I would like to see the research that is involved in determining a "saved" job, but i bet that won't be made available.

I think that WH is underestimating the numbers. It should be 36 million jobs HA HA. Seriously though, the way the unemployment rate is going, it does not look like that they saved 10% of the number they claim...

If the stimulus created 650,000 jobs where are they besides making the government (Fed and State) larger? Will this information be
provided or is this another gaffe by this administration. It is time
to stop both parties from providing false information to US Citizens.

Bad news ofr the Limbaughs,the Becks and people of their breed!

Lying figures by a bunch of liars. No earmarks (8,000) No new taxes on middle class (SCHIP) No lobbyists in my administration (37). Health take over will not cost over $900 billion or add a dime to the deficit (take out the doctor fee portion ($250 billion) and put it in another bill. Lying, Lying Lying.

Your story title says created but the story says created or saved. More CNN spin for the liberals. Still havent ever heard anyone explain how you can define if a job was saved!! Lets face it, the stimulus was a disaster and unemployment continues to rise!!

But we really can't tell how many. Can you say "voodoo econometrics"

Just exactly what sort of yardstick does one use to measure jobs 'created or saved'...if Obama can answer that one then he deserves the Nobel Prize for Economics.

This administration is nothing more than a bunch of Flim-Flam artists.

Great work...that $230,769.23 spent per job.

We're on our way back to prosperity now!

650K jobs for $150B = $230,769 per job saved. Very effiicent...

More Obama LIES and Garbage. Where did Obama pull that number from, out of his?

Even 1 job is a plus, Its better than the party of NO who want to see America fail. Those poeple are greedy sick hogs, We just have to do what is needed on our own because the GOP will do zero,

Some how the Republicans will turn this into a negative........wait and see!!