November 2nd, 2009
05:54 PM ET
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Biden stumps for Owens, takes dig at Palin

Biden stumped for Owens Monday.
Biden stumped for Owens Monday.

(CNN) - Vice President Joe Biden challenged Republican voters in New York's 23rd congressional district to teach conservative "absolutists" a lesson in the special House election Tuesday by voting for the Democratic candidate in the race.

"We aren't asking you to switch your party," Biden said at a rally for Democrat Bill Owens in Watertown, New York Monday morning. "We are just saying join us in teaching a lesson to those absolutists who say no dissent is permitted within your own party."

The comments come a day after Republican Dede Scozzafava, who withdrew from the race Saturday amid heavy pressure from conservatives - endorsed Owens. Many high-profile Republicans, including Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Dick Armey, have already thrown their own support behind third-party conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

Related: Scozzafava campaigns for Owens

In his remarks at the rally for Owens, Biden elicited boos from the crowd when he mentioned Palin, Limbaugh and Armey.

"The idea that Rush Limbaugh would handpick [the] successor is kind of unusual," Biden said of the popular conservative radio host who has heavily backed Hoffman over the national party's choice of Scozzafava.

"I would have thought the last person I would bring up to the North Country is Dick Armey," Biden continued, pointing to the former Texas congressman and current chairman of the conservative group FreedomWorks. "He's a decent guy, but he represents a view so alien it seems to me to the pragmatism to the North Country. Sarah Palin, a former governor - her views are real and consistent with Armey's and Limbaugh's and Dick Cheney's."

"This is a different ideology," Biden continued. "This is different than anything I've known in my 45 years of being familiar with this district. You know, they may not have any room for moderate views in the Republican Party upstate anymore, but let me assure you, we have room, we have room."

Later in his remarks, the vice president couldn't help but return to the subject of the former Alaska governor when the issue of energy came up.

"Sarah Palin thinks the answer to energy is 'Drill, baby, drill,' he said, leaning into the microphone. "It's a lot more complicated, Sarah, than drill baby drill."

A just-released Siena College poll suggests Hoffman holds a 5-point lead over Owens, while 18 percent of likely remain undecided.

Update:
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fired back at Biden Monday. "As the vice president knows, I have always advocated an all-of-the-above approach to American energy independence," Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page. "There's one way to tell Vice President Biden that we're tired of folks in Washington distorting our message and hampering our nation's progress: Hoffman, Baby, Hoffman!."

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  1. odumber, 1 and a half year old maturity level...

    Teach conservatives? Why? They already know everything and are never wrong... Biden you should save your schooling for liberals, who are pianfully wrong about everything, and are obviously social communist atheist aliens who love abortions, hate America and would never support our troops with 15 magnetic ribbons, like real Americans!

    November 2, 2009 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  2. tarheel

    Yes. It should teach Republicans not to put a Nancy Pelosi Clone in as the Republican candidate to start with. Why in the world should a Republican be forced to choose between a Democrat and a Republican who wouldn't even be a decent blue dog Democrat. Republicans can't win by trying to out Democrat a Democrat.

    November 2, 2009 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  3. William

    LOL , Sure vote for the idiot owens who even with this chaos is behind in the polls. Scozzafeva just wasn't the right perosn for this election.
    Of course his hand chosen group of followers present BOOED the mention of those names he paid them to do so.

    November 2, 2009 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  4. LacrosseDad

    Scozzafava is a Republican with Liberal values, worst of the worst.

    November 2, 2009 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  5. donttreadonme

    Yes it can teach us that if we choose conservative candidates we can win!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 2, 2009 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  6. mjm

    I'm sorry, but the people in NY-23 picked Hoffman, not Limbaugh, Palin, or Armey.

    It's a conservative county. They deserve a conservative Republican, not some RINO.

    November 2, 2009 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  7. Lisa

    It comes as no surprise that most of the countries biggest whackadoodles are coming out for Hoffman. He is a conservative loon who attracts those types. All of these busy boies should keep their noses in their own states. Sara Palin should be taking care of her children and maybe she wouldn't find them in trouble.

    November 2, 2009 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  8. Tom in Delaware

    That lead has opened to 17 points guys....now that Biden is there it'll be at 25 by election day...tomorrow.

    I hate to be cruel, but could you guys in NY just keep Biden up there for a while...we've had him for 36 years and we need a break.

    November 2, 2009 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  9. Jane/Seattle

    The misinformation out here is astounding! Lie, Lie, Lie and pretty soon no one will know the difference. Thoise who get so much money are probably the least trutst-worthy! I do not know about NY politics much, BUT we need Dems to support the peoples Agenda for Equality, Equity, and Justice. You don;t offer to fight for these ideas, You are of no use to us at all! I don't like Biden! he is a good old boy and offers only bad old-school Politics! I did vote for Obama as my man, Dennis Kucinich was neutralized early. The agendas of Dennis K, Bernie Sanders et al are always marginalized so we get stuck with ever more Crapitalists and War-Mongers! When we figure out that it in our best interests to refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils, we will get good elected officials who are NOT buyable. Peace

    November 2, 2009 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  10. obummer, 1 and done

    We've seen extreme conservative views before, but we have not seen extreme liberal views running the country.

    From the looks of things now, extreme liberals ruining the country, (sorry I meant running, but same thing), is worse than the extreme conservatives.

    November 2, 2009 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  11. Koa

    "This is a different ideology," Biden continued. "This is different than anything I've known in my 45 years of being familiar with this district.

    Kind of telling on how in touch with the country Biden is if this "ideology" (conservatism) is alien to him.

    November 2, 2009 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  12. Fair is Fair

    The buffoon strikes again.

    Biden, you are SO irrelevant. No one takes you seriously. If you had another brain it would be lonely.

    Buffoon.

    November 2, 2009 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  13. Rob

    Yes, good idea!

    November 2, 2009 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  14. toby hill

    No Biden, Conservatives are about to teach the RINOs a lesson in party principles. If a Party of No means sticking with principles then I'll wear the Party of No Badge with honor but if it means always sacrificing principles just to get along then I'm for not getting along.

    November 2, 2009 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  15. Barry In Las Vegas

    Scozzafava is a Democrat and she should change her party affilication to reflect what she really is.

    She was simply posing as a Republican. Pro abortion, pro gay marrage and pro Obama policies are all Democrat positions.

    Good bye and good ridance.

    November 2, 2009 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  16. mike

    And then we can teach the left wing hate filled fundamentalist progressives a lesson in 2012 by getting rid of uhbumba.

    November 2, 2009 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  17. Steveo

    This is really a dangerous pattern for our country. The ultra-conservatives know that Fox News and their other talk radio heads have a captive audience. They are now purging moderate Republicans from the party and pretty soon, this third party they seem to be trying to create and the Republicans will both be irrelevant. The quality of government will suffer from Republican lack of leadership. Democrats will dominate and the ultra-ultra-conservatives will resort to violence and domestic terrorism when they can't get their way.

    November 2, 2009 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  18. Nancy

    I say vote the third party and send a message to the democrats and the republicans that we are not going to take their crap anymore!!

    November 2, 2009 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  19. TLD

    The Republican Party is a disgrace and an abomination. There is something putrid about these guys and gals. The Republican Parties of past decades did not make me want to shower after I hear or see them speak on issues. I think it may have started with the Newt Gingrich Crew a few years back.

    November 2, 2009 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  20. What have we come to?

    Anyone who needs Biden to campaign for them is either desperate or incredibly stupid.

    November 2, 2009 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  21. Aunt Bea and Opie

    Dick Armey is a Texas low life carpetbagger that is working for the defense contractors.He loves the blood money.

    November 2, 2009 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  22. kg in okiehoma

    GOP swirling in the drain. The Moony Times had an article today bracing the GOP for a loss.

    November 2, 2009 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  23. The Essential Republican

    We have no room for free thinkers in this party. If you can't goosestep with the rest of us...auf veidersain, baby!

    November 2, 2009 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  24. Fitz in Texas

    Old "Average Joe" Biden campaigning again. Yep, old "Average Joe" Biden that lives in a 3 million dollar house. Hey, I'm an "Average Joe" Texan and I sure can't afford a 3 million house.

    When will the Vice President and the President stop campaigning and GET BACK TO WORK AND EARN YOUR MONEY!

    November 2, 2009 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  25. Dixon

    I keep reading where the majority of people support what the Republican party is working for. WHAT MAJORITY? Since when does the consistent 30% or less on any position represent the majority of Americans. As for Liberals being haters as stated below I think both parties have to many of those. I do not want to live in a Far Right, or Far Left country.

    November 2, 2009 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
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