November 2nd, 2009
05:54 PM ET
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Biden stumps for Owens, takes dig at Palin

Biden stumped for Owens Monday.
Biden stumped for Owens Monday.

(CNN) - Vice President Joe Biden challenged Republican voters in New York's 23rd congressional district to teach conservative "absolutists" a lesson in the special House election Tuesday by voting for the Democratic candidate in the race.

"We aren't asking you to switch your party," Biden said at a rally for Democrat Bill Owens in Watertown, New York Monday morning. "We are just saying join us in teaching a lesson to those absolutists who say no dissent is permitted within your own party."

The comments come a day after Republican Dede Scozzafava, who withdrew from the race Saturday amid heavy pressure from conservatives - endorsed Owens. Many high-profile Republicans, including Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Dick Armey, have already thrown their own support behind third-party conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

Related: Scozzafava campaigns for Owens

In his remarks at the rally for Owens, Biden elicited boos from the crowd when he mentioned Palin, Limbaugh and Armey.

"The idea that Rush Limbaugh would handpick [the] successor is kind of unusual," Biden said of the popular conservative radio host who has heavily backed Hoffman over the national party's choice of Scozzafava.

"I would have thought the last person I would bring up to the North Country is Dick Armey," Biden continued, pointing to the former Texas congressman and current chairman of the conservative group FreedomWorks. "He's a decent guy, but he represents a view so alien it seems to me to the pragmatism to the North Country. Sarah Palin, a former governor - her views are real and consistent with Armey's and Limbaugh's and Dick Cheney's."

"This is a different ideology," Biden continued. "This is different than anything I've known in my 45 years of being familiar with this district. You know, they may not have any room for moderate views in the Republican Party upstate anymore, but let me assure you, we have room, we have room."

Later in his remarks, the vice president couldn't help but return to the subject of the former Alaska governor when the issue of energy came up.

"Sarah Palin thinks the answer to energy is 'Drill, baby, drill,' he said, leaning into the microphone. "It's a lot more complicated, Sarah, than drill baby drill."

A just-released Siena College poll suggests Hoffman holds a 5-point lead over Owens, while 18 percent of likely remain undecided.

Update:
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fired back at Biden Monday. "As the vice president knows, I have always advocated an all-of-the-above approach to American energy independence," Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page. "There's one way to tell Vice President Biden that we're tired of folks in Washington distorting our message and hampering our nation's progress: Hoffman, Baby, Hoffman!."

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soundoff (274 Responses)
  1. Shekar

    Who send this guy there! OMG democrats don't want a win? Even I am know better than this 'absense minded professor'. Common Joe keep going...

    November 2, 2009 04:07 pm at 4:07 pm |
  2. seebofubar

    Biden is the Democrat hammer. The one that seals the coffins of democrat candidates. And by the way Joe, I'm no Palin fan, and she is no genious, but she forgot more this morning than you have learned in your lifetime.

    November 2, 2009 04:08 pm at 4:08 pm |
  3. Mike Mundy, Houston, TX

    Joe Biden only wishes he looked as good as Sarah Palin. If there was ever a term to describe Biden, it would be "Dork".

    November 2, 2009 04:08 pm at 4:08 pm |
  4. odumber, 1 and a half year old maturity level...

    What do you mean Biden? We have to pick one of two parties and stick with it no matter what! We can't be expected to think for ourselves, the good people at Fox News do it for us. Now after I got my anxiety medication I can listen to Rush again without worry of another heart attack.

    Let's get one thing straight: America is an extreme right country with no room for any liberal ideas, like socialized police or firemen. Those stalinists may be heroes to the libertards, but not us true americans who see through their socialistic communist adgendas.

    Wake up America, we're all christians and we allare against Obama! Even though more than half our country voted for him, they weren't real Americans they don't count...

    November 2, 2009 04:08 pm at 4:08 pm |
  5. cg

    He's dead on. However much I may disagree with them on the issues, the republican party used to be about business and cutting taxes. Now it's allowing its own party to be hijacked by people trying to dictate social policies for everyone, claiming their god is the only god, women should stay barefoot and pregnant, gay people should be beaten up, etc., and if you disagree, you'd better change party.

    November 2, 2009 04:08 pm at 4:08 pm |
  6. Dumb Republicans

    Why do you constantly believe in your Lord and Savior Rush Limbaugh? Only a dumb republican or conservative would put so much faith in Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Glen Beck, all college dropouts!!! Then again most conservative aren't that sharp, so why am high when you can look up to people who are such Human Trash!!

    November 2, 2009 04:08 pm at 4:08 pm |
  7. Scott

    Will all the conservatives please move into existing republican states and just hatemonger to the choir? I think its offensive that this poor lady was in the lead but since she wasn't socially right enough they nuked her. If you're a TX hatemonger than stay in TX and hatemonger there. There are plently of lousy immigrants, gays and welfare people to lynch down there without having to come up and tie Dede from the nearest tall tree branch. What a lousy country we live in. I'm newly embarassed every day to be an American.

    November 2, 2009 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  8. Robin

    Dirty politics as usual. You can't win them with brillance so start the mud slinging? So far all the Obama administration has done since it began is worry about the next election. Why don't they start focusing on fixing the economy and start creating new jobs.

    November 2, 2009 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  9. You betcha

    Doesn't Joe have a job to do? He was elected VP. But instead he and Obama are out stumping for Democrats. Is this what we have become? While the country falls apart ( Oh Yea, Blame Bush again ) our President and VP are out campaigning??????

    This is bull, Joe, get your arse back to Washington and do your job, and take the community organizer with you.

    You can hate Sarah, Rush and anyone else you want. But at least they do not take away from the job they have. Sarah at least had the balls to step down, take up her cause, whether you believe it or not, and do her thing. Biden and Obama instead fly around campaigning because all they can see is POWER.
    The Afghan election is over, when is Obama goign to make a decision on troops. Instead of worrying about party politics?

    November 2, 2009 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  10. Obama Victim

    I wonder how it feels to be so stupid you support Joe Biden??

    I can't imagine

    November 2, 2009 04:10 pm at 4:10 pm |
  11. Mike

    This election was being talked about by Limbaugh today. He tried to make us believe that these current neo fascists running the GOP were representative of Reaganism. What a load of dung. This fifty year old Republican remembers Reagan well. Ronald Reagan was inclusive and positive. He was never a liar and intolerant like the GOP has degenerated down to.

    November 2, 2009 04:10 pm at 4:10 pm |
  12. Cathy Reid

    Why waste you breath on people who are not capable of learning anything. Just like Palin once and idiot always an idiot.
    Republicans only know one word "NO" and are just a bit, more moral.
    What a joke, the whole bunch of them.

    November 2, 2009 04:11 pm at 4:11 pm |
  13. Hymie

    The HMIC* has spoken

    *head moron in charge

    November 2, 2009 04:12 pm at 4:12 pm |
  14. demsrulz

    Sounds like republicans are turning into fascist nazis... Disgusting!

    November 2, 2009 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  15. Jack

    Joe Biden is a good partner for Obama and a bright and independent voice as Vice-President. History will show his many contributions to this nations well being. We need more straight talking politicians like Joe.

    November 2, 2009 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  16. Debby

    Biden needs to keep his comments about the other party to himself.

    November 2, 2009 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  17. Catty

    That's rich. Aparently dissension is ok, as long as you are not disenting from the liberal agenda...thank it's OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

    November 2, 2009 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  18. Beverly in NC

    Republicans have betrayed Americans. They have voted NO on every piece of legislation to restore our country or help struggling Americans. They have told endless lies, spread fear and hate, and refused to denounce racism and violence from their fanatical followers.

    Why would any American believe or trust any Republican? They serve the rich and the corporations – not the People who were misled into voting for them.

    When are they going to realize that every time Palin, Cheney, DeMint, Boehner, McConnell, Pawlenty, and Romney open their mouths against America and disrespectfully against President Obama they have turned even more of the country against them?

    November 2, 2009 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  19. Malik

    A large undecided vote right now usually means low turn out so what does it really mean if a conservative wins a Republican district that has been the same for 100 years, Nothing.

    If New Jersey goes to a Republican that says something

    Virginia well that says something too but not as much. If the Republicans
    want to even approach a Majority in the house they will need an alternative.

    they have already blown it on Healthcare

    they could have gotten medical malpractice, Insurance over state lines, coops

    but they won't come to the table

    November 2, 2009 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  20. Amanda

    republicans = rich, arrogant ; not your friend and got us into this stupid mess in the first place... No, "drill baby drill" is not the answer to our problems. Geesh, American people have become so addicted to oil it is disgusting and just like an addict we think a quick fix is all need to feel a little bit better. The truth of the matter is we as a society have become lazy (hence why we are one of the fastest countries) and have forgotten everything we stood for and what set us apart. Now we are becoming a poor, fat, lazy country and this is one reason our economy collapsed. It was no ones fault but our own. We will never fix our world if we can not come together as a society.

    November 2, 2009 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  21. John L.

    The media has finally picked up on the inevitable civil war brewing in my own Republican Party. Us moderate Republicans have been waiting for this moment, and we will purge our party of the crazy radical anti-government forces which poisons its ideology. We must not even concern ourselves with federal elections until we rid our party of these evils. NO more Palin, NO more Rush, No more Beck, save conservatism from these idiots who destroy it.

    November 2, 2009 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  22. al

    Let's see. We have Palin, dumb as a bag of manure. Limbaugh, a worthless drug addict, Pelosi, no smarter than Palin, Reed, a worthless no nothing who would sell his own mother, Armey, another crook in the same vein as Cheney, exPresident Bush, a liar, and Obama, a guy with socialist tendencies.

    Is this why I distrust politicians so much and why I refuse to ally myself with the Democrats or the Republicans?

    November 2, 2009 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  23. www.firedoglake.com

    Vice President Biden's calling on Republicans to teach their party a lesson by switching parties, is he?

    Well, how should we, the true base of the Democratic Party, teach the weak leaders of the Democratic Party a lesson?

    I mean, will having another Democrat in the House really change the fact that, as of now, Speaker Pelosi is bringing a weak health care reform bill to the House floor and that Majority Leader Reid is bringing an even weaker one to the Senate floor.

    Seriously, what more can we do than give you ineffective and failed leaders control over the White House and large majorities in the House and Senate?

    Start acting like Democrats, or we'll be teaching you a lesson.

    November 2, 2009 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  24. John Starnes Tampa Florida

    Palin/OctoMom 2012!

    November 2, 2009 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
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