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Another thing Joe Wilson was right about. Amazing. Where are the Liberal loons on this blog? Nowhere to be found, because they know they're not on the right side of this argument.

Politics over people.
This is all about self preservation in Office at all levels. Illegals are illegals. My Fellow Soldiers are dying everyday to preserve what? Our Constitution means nothing to a Lawless Foreign nations. It is not the Fault of the Illegals, It is the so call Representatives (Government Officials) who were elected to ensure the Security and Defense of our Nation. In the Meanwhile, we are weaken by a Mild Depression, Unemployment, and Economic depletion of Tax Payer monies that are misused by our officials. 25% of the money earned by Illegals is being sent to stimulate the Mexican Economy not Ours. Health care reform already destroyed California, We should have learn from CA SNAFU. No to Illegals on all areas especially this.

Hey, wait a minute. Didn't all you lib kooks jump all over Joe Wilson when he accused Obumbles of lying about illegals and the healthcare bill? Y'all got a weird definition of the truth then, this healthcare sham is full of lies.

Four and the door Obumbles, four and the door.

Amazing what people on the far-right do not know! There ARE LAWS IN PLACE that prevent undocumented immigrants from having access to our Healthcare System.

This issue is ridiculous, its just one more block by the GOP!

(excuse the yelling) THERE ARE LAWS THAT PROHIBIT UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS FROM HAVING ACCESS TO MEDICARE, MEDICAID ETC. ALREADY!

The GOP just want to continue to fear monger, as usual!

However, IF an undocumented immigrant goes to the ER of ANY hospital in the U.S. by LAW the Hospital MUST TREAT them! This law has been around for over a decade. It is humane to treat a human being...... who is a CHILD OF GOD is they are hurt or sick.

It is so disturbing to read the comments of the GOPers, and see that HATE that you folks have towards immigrants! Are YOU going to pick lettuce?

President Obama has not LIED, the LIES come from the GOP who like to incite hate!

READ THE BILL AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!

I believe if they can pay for food and taxes then let them pay for their own health insurance, so it won't be a burden on us. We need to stop this abuse we can't afford it anymore.

What part of "Illegal" does this government not understand?????
Have we, as a country, elected a group of people who should be deported? There is not one of our Representatives or Senators giving away Tax Payer funds who should not be in JAIL!!! Including the entire Hispanic Caucus. This is still the United States and the English Language needs to be locked down as tight as our already voted for and paid for FENCE ....oh yeah, Napolitano wants to adopt them all as well. Joe Arpaio is the only one enforcing the law and she is shutting him down, too.

President Obama, there is no sympathy for people who break our laws and then make demands that Citizens don't get. NO AMNESTY! NO TAXPAYER MONEY TO SUPPORT ILLEGALS OR THEIR BIRTHRIGHT BABIES.

ok it says illegal immigrants not Latinos. There's a differences last i checked.

if they are buying it, who cares. we need to move on. Quit dwelling on hate.

It seems to me that the GOP will not be happy unless emergency rooms start putting bouncers at the door to check for documentation.

What they fail to realize is that doctors take an oath to heal the sick – not the legal sick.

got 'permalinked' on the story about Democrats passing the Climate Bill without the cantankerous and obstinate Republicans.

I am so happy that at long last, and within constitutional boundaries, the Democrats got something as important as this accomplished!! It is the only way that the spoiled GOP brats will come to realize that their obstruction and delay tactics WILL NOT WORK.

Kudos to the Democrats for doing the job they were hired to do upon being elected to represent their constituents. Shame on the Republicans for continuing to draw a paycheck in spite of shirking their duties and not doing ONE day of honest work.

Someone should check the citizenship status of the members of the Hispanic caucus.

stop giving illigals what they did not work for..how hard is that

The health care bill should not be used as a pretext for subtle racist politics. The Bill already requires verification of citizenship, all this change does is pander to bigots.

My friend cut his finger in some machinery at his business. Medical Cost: $350. Paid by Insurance

He sold the business years later but still works there. Illegal worker at the plant had the exact, same injury on the same machinery.
Medical Cost: $12,000 Paid by insurance.
Plus: $23,000 in workmans comp.

Huh?

If I walk into an insurance company and buy insurance with my own money, they will not ask me to prove my citizenship. That doesn't happen for car insurance, that doesn't happen for buying a home, that doesn't happen for buying a burger.

People seem to be assuming that illegals walk around with a sign indicating such. If you are all so worried about illegal aliens purchases anything (which will be giving money back to citizens by the way) and you have no problem with giving up freedoms and being forced to prove your citizenship constantly, that's your right to feel that way.

Personnaly I don't want to have to do that continually. Am I for illegal aliens, of course not. Do I have a problem with them spending money on something before they are determined to be illegal, no. Do I have a problem with them spending money on something after they are determined to illegal and they are not deported, yes.

"bar illegal immigrants from buying health insurance using their own funds."

Seriously? Who in their right mind would tell them not to spend their money here? That's just complete and utter nonsense? So what if they're illegal? Last I checked, money is money, and it being handed to you by an illegal immigrant doesn't change that. Nor does it change the FACT that the insurance industry on the theory that the more people paying in and spreading risk the better.

That being said, they obviously should not be handed federal funds to subsidize their insurance. That's a no brainer. But this "your money is no good here" nonsense is just chest puffery...what's next, telling supermarkets not to sell them food? Idiotic. Get pragmatic or get lost.

Ok CNN, what isn't a stumbling block to this health care bill? One day it is this, next is that, then its people. The press is so bored that any point of discussion is a stumbling block because U.S. journalists have no way how to discuss something if it isn't sensationalized or doesn't bleed.

One or two people break the law we can fix it

But 10 millions broke the law mean system is broke

First we have to fix the system before blame any one

Health care is a bottle of asprin or a band-aid. Yet you wasted billions just so Obama could play God...

How many more time do you need to be punched in the nose before you realize the Progressive's care more about the illegal immigrant’s rights then they do about the taxpayer?

KILL THE BILL ! ! !

Joe Wilson was right? Can't be.

Not all illegal immigrants are hispanic, there are many from Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and even Europe. None should reap the benefits including health care on the American taxpayers back. They have no reguard for our laws or they would not be here. We have enough Americans who have no reguard for our laws including members of Congress and the White House from both parties who will not uphold the laws of this country. ID theft is rampant with illegal immigration which is not equivalent to a speeding ticket like Pro Amnesty Groups would have you think! 24 million dollars of the first time home buyers tax credit went to illegal immigrants. Who in Congress will guarantee that fraud will not happen in health care. No One!

Nothing in this world would make Democrats like Obama, Pelosi, and Frank happier than to see a hard working American in the middle of the country who has always paid his or her taxes, never has ever done anything illegal, and has always supported themselves and their families be on a long government waiting list for treatment they could get before the government take over, and they end up dying before the government grants them this treatment. While an illegal alien gets his or her healthcare for free immediately.

Sure takes a sick person to support Democrats, doesn't it speak volumes about the ticker libs and their own morals and values when this above dream is their sole reasoning for supporting Obama care?

We give the illegals food stamps, HUD housing, welfare checks. What makes you think they won't be in on the public option also? Why do the dems block any attempt any attempt to keep the illegals from getting free health care? What part of illegal don't they understand?

I am dumbfounded. How is this even possible? If you want to support illegals before you help Americans then you do not belong in this country let alone in this government.

What part of “illegal” do they not understand? Don’t get me wrong I don’t like the public option and want to see them fight about it, but if illegal immigrants are not blocked from this legislation something is very wrong. This is a USA tax payer funded program not a help the world not for profit organization. These people need to find somewhere else to live.

The Hispanic Caucus is not a constitutional office. It hasn't even
a single Republican member in it! It thinks it can get its way by
blackmailing the Speaker and bullying her into doing what it wants
by threatening to withhold votes on healthcare. It should be declared
un-American and disbanded.

The Hispanic caucus needs to remember: they represent Americans, legal American citizens, not foreigners!

here's the problem with this. This ruls is kinda backwards, but I can understand where it's coming from. Why should illegal aliens have insurance, driver's licenses, etc? You would think that these people being this visible would be easy to spot and arrest.

"Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen."

Wake up people....take our country back. Vote out everyone who doesn't want to shut down illegal immigration.

Typical Democrats. Illegals aren't supposed to be here at all, so why should they be allowed to buy health care? They should be depoerted, as fast as possible.

Instead of one big overhaul (that based on Medicare and Medicaid WON'T WORK), healthcare and insurance reform should be done in small DOABLE steps.

Start with electronic medical records (hospitals, not the government, should pay for this... it's been available for 10-15 years), TORT reform, allow insurance companies to compete across state lines, list procedure prices at hospitals, so people can shop around,

Allow individuals to be responsible for their own actions/health. Keep Pelosi, Obama and others out of healthcare.

Absolutely no healthcare insurance or benefits for illegal immigrants! If the President revisits this measure, a lot of Americans will revisit our vote next time. This is a "line in the sand" & our congressman or women will receive e-mails noting our displeasure & the loss of our vote for them.

illegal immigrants are just that – illegal. Health car reform should not address the issue – other than to preclude it. Members of the Hispanic Caucus should concern themselves with the health care issues of the legal Hispanic immigrant. Should they do so, they would find a much more supportive non-Hispanic voter.

This is why Democrats can't get this legislation passed. There are so many competing groups that want this or that included that no one is going to like the final bill. they need to drop the most contraversial parts and get this passed now.

Uh, I don't get it...

Why would the idiot Dems want to prevent anyone from buying their own health insurance with their own money? Unless they're trying to guarantee that at least one group of people will always be dependant on them and therefore always vote Democratic?

For heaven's sake just put in the no illegals and anti-abortion language. Let's get this done. If people can't afford abortions they can just do it themselves. Also, if people are here illegally, I'm very sorry, but they are here illegally and should leave. Would we let people from Afghanistan, North Korea, or Iran sneak into the country and then let them buy health insurance? No, they should be rounded up and deported. No health insurance for North Korean, Iranian and Afghanistan spies and terrorists.

We have to take care of our citizen's first. If someone comes in without proper ID, I'm not saying we should turn them away, but the case should be turned over to the ICE.

Good golly . . . this place is out of control.

The only "Change We Can Believe In" will be the conservative shift in 2010.

I'm donating my entire life sacings to Joe Wilson, because once again Obumbles is just a pandering liar!

Let them sign up, then as Mr.Favor used to say:
"head 'em up
move 'em out
move 'em on
head 'em out"

If Illegals are included in this bill the Democrats will lose big time in the next election. Let the Doctors and Hospitals send there Bills to the Mexican Government . If they are treated and found to be jn thjs country Illegally then send them home and send the Bills to the Home Government from which they came here from. Or just send them home with-out treatment other than too stabilize for there travel home.

I don't want my hard earned money taxed to provide all sorts of benefits for people who broke the law and take advantage of everything they can get their hands on once they sneak into this country. I am fed with their attitude of entitlements and their self-centered "me,me,me" "it's all about me" state of being while hard working Americans lose their jobs and homes.

thats so bogus ,,, why are americans having to pay for these people who are here illegal... these polictians are insane,,,,

Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus are pushing back against the addition of a provision to the bill that would bar illegal immigrants...

Standing up for their constituents I see.

How long before the Fed does what they've done in California and increase withholding by 10%? And then, they'll keep it.

California is the model for liberalism, now that we've nationalized it, watch out.

What don't illegal immigrants not understand about the word "illegal?"

First they break into our country and, because of unenforced and toothless immigration laws, they set up housekeeping and then want to dine at our table via education, medical care, etc. etc. paid for by American citizens.

Sometimes the illegals remind me of cow birds and cuckoos, both of which are birds that lay their eggs in the nests of other birds in order to have them raise their young for them.

NO Illegal Immigrants!!! Only Citizens!!

o.k. you liberal loons, JOE WILSON was and is right...OBAMA LIES.

Mr. President please do not make the stronger language in the bill this is not right.