Washington (CNN) - A handful of Republican senators have proposed a Constitutional amendment to limit the amount of time a person may serve in Congress.
Currently, there are no term limits for federal lawmakers, but Sen. Jim DeMint, R-South Carolina, and several of his colleagues are advocating that service in the Senate be limited to 12 years, while lawmakers would only be allowed to serve 6 years in the House.
"Americans know real change in Washington will never happen until we end the era of permanent politicians," DeMint said in a statement released by his office. "As long as members have the chance to spend their lives in Washington, their interests will always skew toward spending taxpayer dollars to buyoff special interests, covering over corruption in the bureaucracy, fundraising, relationship building among lobbyists, and trading favors for pork – in short, amassing their own power."
Two-thirds of the House and Senate would need to approve the amendment - a stumbling block that short-circuited the idea 14 years ago. The new proposal echoes the Citizen Legislature Act, part of the original Contract with America proposed by Republicans before they won control of Congress in 1994. That measure, which would have allowed both senators and members of the House to serve just 12 years, won a majority in the Republican-controlled House in 1995, but failed because it did not meet the constitutionally-required two-thirds threshold.
"There is no question there are big obstacles in the way," said Philip Blumel, president of U.S. Term Limits, a non-partisan organization that advocates putting time restrictions in place. "It is difficult to pass a Constitutional amendment, however the goal is worthwhile and it is very important to the country. Also, if not now, when?"
This time around, proponents are not calling on lawmakers who believe in the idea to place a self-imposed term limit on themselves.
"If you are asking people to self limit, what might happen and what did happen, is that honorable politicians who made the pledge left office," while others did not, Blumel said. "The answer to the term limit supporter is not self limiting. It is the body as a whole."
DeMint, who is currently serving his first six-year term in the Senate, echoed Blumel's rational for dismissing self-imposed term limits.
"I want to be clear: demanding that reformers adopt self-imposed term limits is a recipe for self-defeat on this issue," DeMint said in Tuesday's statement. "We lost the battle for term limits after the 1994 Republican Contract with America because we forced our best advocates for reform to go home, while the big-spending career politicians waited them out. We must have term limits for all or term limits will never succeed. Only when we apply the same rules to all will we be able to enact vital bipartisan reforms."
One of the original co-sponsors of the amendment is Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, who is serving her third term in the Senate, but is expected to resign her seat to focus attention on a gubernatorial bid.
A spokesman for Hutchison said it is easy to square the fact that the Texas Republican is advocating for a cap of two terms even though she is currently in the middle of her third term.
"Throughout her career she has fought for term limits and continues to do so and that is why she is cosponsoring this bill," said Hutchison spokesman Jeff Sadosky. "But until it is passed, it would do a disservice to Texas and the people of Texas to do away with the seniority she has gained unless all the states and all of the senators hold themselves to the same standard."
The two other original cosponsors of the amendment are Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, and Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas. Coburn, a first-term senator, is up for re-election to his second term in 2010, while Brownback is retiring next year after pledging to only serve two full terms in the Senate. As congressmen, both voted in favor of the GOP's Contract with America term limit proposal in 1995. Coburn, a longtime term limits supporter, retired from the House in 2000 after serving three terms based on that pledge.
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Wow, a Republican idea I totally agree with. No more career politicians.
About time!
Well, if anyone knows about corruption in Congress, ie..."As long as members have the chance to spend their lives in Washington, their interests will always skew toward spending taxpayer dollars to buyoff special interests, covering over corruption in the bureaucracy, fundraising, relationship building among lobbyists, and trading favors for pork – in short, amassing their own power."...it is most assuredly the GOP! Their specialties have always been all of the above. And by the way, I agree with term limits. But it will never, never happen. Not in our lifetime, anyway! Period.
Three terms in the House and two terms in the Senate is enough for anyone to serve and should be the law. Put it on the ballot, I'll vote for it.
"Term Limits" a bad idea who's time has come.
If you think lobbtist have too much power now just wait until they are the only ones with experience. This is a Trojan Hoosre of stupididty
I just don't understand the hypocrisy that is the Republican party. They are all for freedom and states rights until they are against it. The federal government and more importantly, the senators who are supporting this initiative, have no power to do so as term limits are the responsibility of the states.
This is just another move to deflect the media from the real issues; and CNN you played the pawn again. The Repub's have no plan for healthcare, they have no plan for the economy and they have no plan to end our war involvement. This is just more smoke and mirrors!
I actually agree with him.
wow, actually a good idea from the GOP for once
This is Absolutely the only thing that will save this country.
I disagree with the need for term limits. Congressmen/women are most vulnerable when they FIRST arrive in Washington, and don't yet know all the rules/ procedures. It is a very complicated job, and until on understands all of the ins and outs, on e is likely to get taken advantage of. Term limits would only serve to increase the number of people who are new to the system.
I do understand the desire to bring "new blood" to the capitol, but when and where this happens is for the voters to decide, NOT some politician
I think this is a good idea, but am surprised that it is coming from Republicans. Republicans proposed term limits with the Contract of Amereica in 1994 and many of them are still in Congress 15 years later. Also, aren't Republicans all for small government unless it relates to taking away people's personal rights?
Obviously he didn't listen to Palin talking about what terrible things elected officials do when they are lame ducks. Republicans just can't get their act together.
Finally, something I can agree on with republicans
I like my Nanny state but it is time to kick the bums out and bring in new bums.
No, Mr. DeMint. Nothing will change until we stop the way Washington and career politicians are funded by corporate "donations" (read: bribes).
The error in judgment handed down by the Supreme Court back in the Nixon era that granted "Personhood" to corporations - thereby granting a non-living company the same Constitutional protections as living, breathing person - needs to be overturned. It's the only way to govern the affect money has on Congress.
Sure the GOP wants term limits... until they regain control of the House and Senate again from the Democrats...
There are already term limits in place. It is called an election.
This is an excellent idea and it may help us get real folks in there that have actually worked for a living, paid a few bills and balanced a few home budgets and served in the military, REGULAR FOLKS.
No more lifetime memberships because you have a (D) or an (R) next to your name or simple name recognition.
I may make it 18 years for Senators and 10 for Congress as that sems reasonable.
Regardless of the party, this is a GREAT IDEA that is long overdue.
Republicans with more salient ideas, like their Healthcare bill that is a GOOD START.
I like it.
Obviously (but not surprisingly) Republicans don't believe that the American people can be trusted to elect their leaders.
Back in the 1990s Republicans also pushed term limits because they thought that was the only way to gain control of Congress. Then Republicans took over in 1994...and quickly abandoned term limits.
Experience isn't a bad thing.
If someone is bad for office then the people should vote them out. Congress shouldn't be limiting the people's options.
Term limits have been a disaster for California. Funny how the GOP hates America so much it wants to limit effective long-term politicians.
This idea is long overdue. 'Professional' politicians have long overstayed there usefulness in representing the people. They have become slaves of special interest groups and lobbyists. End this cycle of corruption.
This is way overdue. I am an Independent and usually vote Democrat but I WHOLEHEARTEDLY support Republcans in this measure. We need to take politicians out of politics. I completely agree with the article.
BRAVO!
Let's all get behind this!
Well waddaya know? I actually agree with Jim DeMint about something. We need both term limits and campaign spending limits, but I'm not holding my breath.
That's a way to have true bipartisanship! At least for the people!
Hey we are! The best amendaament ever, the biggest change.Why did you need so much time to realize what is going on wtih these Gentelmen on the Congres?
Another Republican excuse on why they fail to govern. If one believes in term-limits, serve your terms and get out. Lead by example. Otherwise, this is just a distraction from practicing governance. Many of the congressman that promised to limit their terms in the 90's (e.g. George Nethercutt of Wash. State) went back on their promise. If one doesn't like the job their congressman in doing, vote them out.
What really needs to happen is to term limit the Refuseniks to one term and the South Carolina red neck pseudo christians except for Lindsay Graham to 0 terms. DeMint should be at the top of the list to leave.
The foxes get to vote on their own hen house? Forget (R) vs. (D). It needs to ve voted from the outside.
It is unconstitutional to take away a citizen's right to choose their representatives.
DeMint suffers from Dementia.
No one can say the GOP is the party of no ideas anymore, this is the single best idea that has come out of Washington DC in a generation. Too bad it won't pass, but this is EXACTLY what America needs.
a better idea would be to limit lobbyist access to legislators. Lobbying is permitted under the constitution, but Corporations did not exist in the days of the Founding Fathers. However, the concept of equal representatiion did. Corporations' interests are disproportionately represented in Washington, and having new legislators every 12 years will give even more advantage to the seasoned lobbyists. thus, if you want to limit terms, you must also limit lobbyits access.
We have term limits – it's called voting!
A better way to improve the lot of Congresspeople and Senators is to institute real campaign finance reform, so you don't have to be a millionaire – or beholden to special interests – to afford to serve your country.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes there SHOULD be term limits. What I find is funny is that there are Republicans calling for it. Now, if they would also call for the draft to be reinstated then I might take a second look.
Real change will only happen in Washington when we get rid of the Republicans and the Democrats. Each one is only focused on winning and hopefully tearing down the other in the process. Term limits won't help.
He is crazy. We need new poeple all the time that knows nothing about how Washington works. Let's get rid of him. His fifteen minutes are really up.
If Americans don't like the representation they are getting from their elected officials, they have the option of making that change at the ballot box. Why is it that the "conservatives" keep trying to pass Constitutional amendmends whenever they don't like something or someone?
The short term limits, as proposed, would only give more influence to the lobbyists who would benefit from their continuity of tenure as they "advise" the relatively inexperienced representatives. I agree however that we need to have "term limits", but they need to be structured differently. Just as there are minimum age requirements for members of Congress, there should also be maximum age limits. I would suggest 70 years of age as the maximum. 70 and out you go. As one who is aging, there is no way anyone can tell me that a 90 year old has the same mental ability and energy level as a younger representative. That way the American people could benefit from the experience gained by their representatives, but also benefit from the rejuvenation that younger representatives would bring.
DeMint is right on track. All Refuseniks (the party of Corruption) should be limited to one term if they keep their zippers up.
Sounds like a great idea. In addition we should reform how running for office is financed and what are the perks and benefits of being in office as well. Congress critters should get average salaries of USA not their 6 figures they are getting right now and their other benefits should reflect average benefits as well.
What a hoot! If you believe republicans want "term limits" – then I have a bridge to sell you on my ocean front property in Arizona! There are term limits: they are called "elections"
I see absolutely no problem with this. Anyone who sees themselves as a moderate non-wing nut should be for an amendment which discourages career-politicians.
I'd expect the Left to be against a proposal that would give new light to Republicans but we'll see how it turns out.
Hooray! But I would suggest that a member of the House be allowed to serve eight (8) years instead of the six (6) suggested in the proposal. For one, it would allow a political party that just won a presidential election the opportunity to have new Congressmen around for a two-term President, if the people so desire. Secondly, eight years would severely limit those who serve in the House from running for most of the Senate seats that may be coming vacant, thus providing a "second term limit" that would preclude someone serving for twenty (20) consecutive years. Another suggestion, to be added, is that an individual cannot run for another federal office while holding another such office. If you want to be President or Veep then you would have to resign your seat in Congress and bite the bullet if you lost. Likewise, if you want to run for Senator while serving as a member of the House, ditto. We do not need some "fall back security" if one is rejected by the people for the higher office.
It's sad to think that soon liberals and bloggers alike will condemn the Republicans for only wanting to "get rid of their opponents in Washington."
And they'll say this while consciously ignoring the line: "The new proposal echoes the Citizen Legislature Act...proposed by Republicans...[and which] won a majority in the Republican-controlled House in 1995."
*sigh*
Of course. Figures that a head case like DeMint would be the spokespuppet for this old chestnut at this time. Jimmy already feels a cold wind blowing at his back as the Repubs face a long, long exile, and he'll be one of the first out the door.
Guess they figure now their best shot at regaining power by 2020 or so is t limit Democratic seniority. Why didn't we hear anything about this from SC when Strom Thurmond was still kicking?
Honduras Jim is as un American as Fox media.
Here's a better idea: if you don't like who is in office, vote them out. That's what democracy is, the power of the vote, not some knuckle-headed politicians trying to put term limits on representatives.
There should be a way for the American people to vote directly on this issue. I'm guessing it would pass easily.
I think this is a fantastic idea. FYI – I am a Democrat.
This is one of Reagan's three "crown jewels" with the line item veto and balanced budget amendment being the other two. Reagan said fiscally responsibility could never come to Washington without them. I hope this gains traction, because like most people I'm sick and tired of the entrenched ruling elite. This is supposed to be a government for the people and by the people. Something it currently failing to be.
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Good for him. I have been saying this for the past 8 years. Every other political office has term limits and so should they. Hate to admit I agree with the republicans, but they have finally come up with something that should have been done a long time ago. These politicians would not be so worried about re-election and would actually do something right for the country as a whole.
I also meant to add that the resignation requirement would preclude us having numerous members of Congress not fulfilling their jobs 'cause they are permanently campaigning for up to two (2) years, as we have seen recently.
We have term limits – they're called elections.
Just when there's a legitimate chance of overhauling healthcare and insurance companies death grip on our political system, the Republicans are sending out this hail-Mary strategy to change the focus of the debate. This is simply a wedge strategy and nothing else. Go back and look at the historical evidence. When the Republicans are losing influence, they dredge this issue up and anyone against it is labeled as "old establishment" minded and is just protecting themselves. If someone is a great and effective political leader, why on Earth would the public want to kick them out? This is like saying the best doctors and nurses should be fired after 12 or 6 years as they have learned to manipulate the medical system to their advantage. This is a STUPID proposal by STUPID scheming politicians trying to change our (the public's) focus. Not again, sheesh~!
Vast majority of Americans prefer term limits for all elected officials. Two terms should be the limit
That's the first good idea I've heard out of a Republican in a very long time. I'd support it!
term limits are good but we could do away with congress altogether. we dont need them anymore. the american ppl. can speak for themselves.
Please. We have term limits. They're called elections.
wow... a republican proposal i agree with ?? it'll be interesting to see how many politicians from each party he gets to sign on to this bill.. i can't see a single reason for any congressman to oppose this bill.. if it makes sense to limit the president's terms, it makes sense to limit congressional terms..
HALLELUJAH!! Amen and amen!
They have seen the light. I never thought I would see this day come.
I never thought I would see the day where I would embrace wholeheartedly, 100% anything that would come out of the mouth of Republicans currently in office. More power to you brethren and sisters who seek to pass this legislation.
Term limits have more power to change the dynamic in Washington than anything else. No more career politicians would mean that prospective candidates had to run on the merits of their campaign pledges and ideas and that the incentive to serve would be to serve well and secure a place in history, rather than to stay in office and live off the "fat of the land" with all the perks from sponsors and lobbyists. It would actually raise the stature of offices to keep terms short. Just think, if it works so successfully for the presidency, why can't it work for Congresspeople?
I'm glad to see the Republicans can occasionally suggest something I agree with. I've often wish politicians focused more on their jobs...
We hear team limits every time the Republicans are out of the White House and not in control of Congress. Why didn't you do something when you were in the driver's seat.
Any and all bills and laws proposed by Republican members MUST be considered with a great deal of pessimism and scrutiny.
Are the Republican lawmakers fearful of a Democratic dynasty which would repair the decades of damages the Republican lawmakers have done to the American Economy, American infra-structure, American Values and America's Image around the world?
Big Oil and Big Pharma Corporations apparently are frightened by the recent round of laws and pending bills which work to reel in their outrageous grip and control of America's economic spending.
The American Public should be asking, who really owns South Carolina's Republican Senator Jim DeMint.
His puppet master is pulling the strings on this proposed law.
A. Smith
Oregon
Well, at the risk of looking reflexive, if it's something a majority of Republicans want, I am automatically against it.
Given Republicans' penchant for seeing to it that no good deed that benefits the middle class and the poor goes unpunished, I can't help but feel that Republican-style term limits are to be regarded with suspicion.
Of course, they have brought that suspicion onto themselves.
I have a better idea. they have to serve one full term and get elected for a second term BEFORE running for president.
Dems will never go for term limits...they would never be able to get real jobs.
What a load of nonsense.
It makes absolutely no difference whether they have been elected to their first or 10th term, the highest order of business for a politician is to get re-elected.
So, what happens, in come the lobbyists with money for campaigns.
End of story – you have just got a new whore not a new statesman.
I agree with overall sentiment of term limits, but I think an even better solution would be to pass an amendment that forces states to draw up Congressional districts so that they are as competitive as possible. A non-partisan panel could get this done and I won't talk about the exact logistics of how this might worth, but ultimately what would happen is that we would get more moderates in the House. This would create a situation in which bipartisanship would be much more possible–after all there really shouldn't be much of a difference between a moderate democrat and a moderate Republican. Both parties would compromise more and much of the gridlock that we see in a Washington, which is a product of a political atmosphere in which compromise is not possible would disappear.
Obviously this wouldn't effect the Senate but a term limit Amendment for the Senate could coincide with the amendment proposed above.
More like BAN the Republicans from public office because they are in favor of Trickle-Down Economics, De-regulation and War-Profiteering
A smokescreen to score populist points. Of course, it won't go anywhere, but then, it wasn't meant to.
AMEN to that. Just imagine all the crapola we could've prevented if some of these cats had been long gone by now.
I agree as well as many of the people I know that term limits would benefit our system and get rid of the career politcians who only interest seems to be being re-elected. This would counter the lobbying groups and big money being paid in slush funds for special interest groups. It will never happen because congress will not give up their cash flow and benefits. We have the best congress money can buy, just ask the unions, lawyers , Chamber of Commerce and lobbyists. Where else can a congressman or federal offical cheat on his taxes and nothing happens. We slam a working person who is trying raise a family and pays his bills with high fines or jail if they are caught cheating. We need term limits and honest representation.l.
Sounds like a good idea to me. I can't see anything wrong with limiting terms for politicians. It forces new blood into the system.
I'm definitely in favor of term-limiting DeMint, Coburn, Brownback, Hutchinson, and anybody else who thinks that it is the lack of term limits that prevent Congress from doing their job. There are a lot of reasons why Congress is dysfunctional, but term limits doesn't even make the top 50 of those reasons. This idea had no chance in 1994, and it has no chance now of becoming a Constitutional amendment. So why bother?
For once, I agree with the Republicans. I would even go further and limit terms in office to only two for both houses. Our Congress long ago became an elitist organization fueled by lobby and special interest money. The longer members remain in office, the more isolated from the people and entrenched in their positions. We need term limits and campaign finance reform desperately. Congress needs to return to its original purpose as a representative of the people.
I'm glad to see the Republicans can occasionally suggest something I agree with. I've often wished politicians focused more on their jobs...
Funny how the Republicans always propose term limits when there is a Democrat majority
This is exactly the only way real change will EVER come to Washington. When Lawmakers stop working to get re-elected and stop worrying about their campaign treasury, they can focus on their constituents. Kudos to senator DeMint and any other congressman who supports this. Somehow I doubt Pelosi and Reid will even allow it to be discussed.
it is about time. you go jim. maybe if there are term limits, it will be about the people not about getting re-elected....
Rather than term limits, we should focus on the money driving the elections and the mapping / gerymandering of the electoral districts.
The vote, or will, of the people should be the ultimate term limit. If the people want someone in longer than 2 terms, they should be able to keep that person in office. Allowing term limits would be displacing the ultimate will of the people with the political rumblings / landscape of the time such legislation is passed - and future generations will be stuck with it. Why legislate out the flexibility for the people?
Focus on the REAL problem.
The corruption comes into play with gerrymandering and the sourcing of money funding the campaigns.
Term Limits is the only thing that will save this country and give it back to the people. If the Congress will not vite it, each state needs to get it on their ballots and do this state by state
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with republicans but this is what I've been saying for quite some time. It would help get rid of some of the corruption. Do it, please. Maybe they think it will help their chances of geting elected. Probably not.
Excellent idea!!! We need to get the senile fools out of office like Byrd of WV, Reid, and Dodd. People like Rangel in the House also needs to go.
Amazing how these guys do a 180 on the issue of term limits when they are in the minority, huh? This must be the GOP's latest plan to reverse the trend of losing seats in Congress.
Well, they have to do something... they certainly haven't shown America any solutions or ne ideas. But like they say, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
TERM LIMITS......now! Something this country should have had years ago.
This should DEFINITELY be passed. There are dinosaurs on both sides of the aisle that need to vacate their royal seats ASAP.
This absolutely must be considered this time around.
I am in DeMint's constituency. This C-Street, Waterloo, bigoted tool has got to go, and the sooner the better. He has done nothing but set his own state back 50 years.
Beware!!!!! Do not trust anything this racist and bigoted Senator "NO" DeMint from SOUTH CAROLINA proposes. South Carolina voters, again, made the mistake of electing someone who shouldn't be there in the first place. It's time for South Carolina to clean house.....starting with the Governor, and, Senator "NO" DeMint
I had similar thoughts years ago as an undergrad political science student (now I'm a prof). But if one follows Congress at all, it becomes clear that the longer someone serves the more expertise she/he builds up in certain issue areas. Such individuals then become far more capable of shaping and shepherding legislation through the rather convoluted process of getting a bill into law. Term limits essentially means a large and constantly changing pool of people with little experience in government.
Say what you will about politicians but they reflect the best and worst in us as a people.
We have term limits in California and our legislature is a complete mess!! I say stick with the Vote as a way of getting rid of ineffective reps. With term limits we would not of had all the contributions that Ted Kennedy made. We would certainly have missed his ability to cross party lines.
All methods will have pros & cons... I think our current method is the best.
Mr. DeMint, I'm sorry but 12 years is TOO DAM LONG.
Limit should be 8 YEARS and should apply to EVERY politician whether you are a Republican or Democrat just like it is for the President!!
That's the problem, we've go OLD DINOSAURS that need to hit the road and let new, younger minds step in. Minds that are focused on the future NOT clued to the past.
I'm not sure that term limits wouldn't have it's downside. There's something to be said for experience. It's also kind of hard to find good, qualified people as it is, and term limits could make it even harder. Seems that what really ought to come first is campaign finance reform. If all elections were publicly funded, then all of our elected officials could spend a lot less time campaigning and a lot more time governing. Special interests would be neither. And people who don't have millions of dollars to spend on a campaign could still run for office with equal air time and equal opportunity to debate the issues. May the best qualified candidate win.
My god, we finally have a person in the government with some brains. If I was in his area I would vote for him. We have to many idiots in our government that should not be there. Pelosi and Reid. Of course you guys are democrates so I do not believe you will not post it, but I have gone to other areas where they will. I am tired of CNN and shortly I will be out of your democratic system because I believe you are just as bad as our government
We desperately need term limits – too many people just vote for a name they recognize! No one needs 85 – 90 year old people trying to govern them!!
And, oh yes, South Caroline voters who want to clean house.....let us not forget the infamous Joe Wilson, the LIAR.
Finally, some honesty!
Well this is the best idea i've heard of in years. Too bad the guys who will loose their lifetime jobs have to approve it. If you seriously want term limits, put it on the ballot, it's that simple. If the average citizen had the opportunity to kick these paracites out on their keisters it would happen in a heartbeat.
Purely symbolic. This proposal is brought before Congress every single term just for a few people to get on the record for supporting it, but it never gets out of committee because seriously, why would congressmen vote to shorten their own jobs?
However, to the advocates of term limits, respond to these possibilities you've probably never even considered if term limits were to be enacted:
1. What would be the incentive for anybody to run against an incumbent who will eventually be term limited when they can just wait a few years to run for an open seat in which neither guy has the advantage? The result: THERE WOULD ONLY BE COMPETITIVE ELECTIONS IN THE YEARS WHEN ALL THE SEATS ARE OPEN!!!!! In other words, don't expect to see any other candidate on a ballot until the incumbent is term limited.
2. What incentive do legislators who will be term limited have to actually legislate? Under term limits, even less would get done than already gets done. And what would those outgoing incumbents probably be doing in the background?..........YOU GUESSED IT! RUN FOR ANOTHER OFFICE!!!! It would do nothing about career politicians, just shuffle them between different government positions at different levels of government. They'd probably win too because people always cite "experience" as one of the main traits they look for in candidates.
In conclusion, we already have term limits in this country! The voters can end the term of their member of Congress anytime they want every two years and their Senator every 6 years. But as always seems to be the thought process in American politics, "Congress is a bunch of bums, but NOT MY GUY!"
amen...adopt this proposal...put it to a vote of the american public...i know it would pass!!!!
I guess they smell the rage of their constituents...and should. If this isn't offered now, it surely will be election time. We, American Citizens, love this country and are guilty of apathy but the sleeping giant is awake and aware now.. From my view, I think in the next year or so there is going to be some real revelations shown to the public about just how ugly this has become in Washington. Keep praying.
Amazing that the Democrats who are out to help Americans have not proposed this or President Obama. Too bad that this will never happen.
Naturally, the Republicans propose this when they are in danger of losing even more seats in the House and Senate. And of course, they'll have a grandfather clause that allows geniuses like DeMint and Boehner and McCain to run again and again and again...
I'm not much for agreeing with the GOP, but I agree with this. They should also be limited as to what they or their family members can accept as "gifts".
Term Limits, Now that's a good idea. I think a term shorter than 12 years would be better!
It's about time. They are right...there will never be a change in Washington as long as the powers in charge are allowed to stay there for years and years. Power corrupts, as we have seen over and over and over again. It's the same reason we limit a President to two terms.
It is a shame the Dems and a few Repubs will never allow this to happen. It has about a good of chance as no pay raises for Congress. The elderly don't get a raise but don't worry after a $40 increase to prepare for the stimulus bill. Congress worked its first friday all year to give itself yet abother raise. Pelosi is the great American joke and might be the most radical left wing lone Obama surrounds himself with.
It is time for this to happen. He is right. Unless we restrict those who feel they have something personal to protect, we will never get good representation. I am writing my representatives now pushing them to support this.
Another joke from the Contract on America crew. Term limits are absolutely a requirement–until our party is in the majority. Then it's no more important than a perfunctory vote. Sad, pathetic, and amazingly hypocritical.
Bravo; but the demo's will never agree to it. This should happen serving in congress should not be a lifetime job.
The best idea to come out of any politician's mouth....
Do it...
NOW!
Don't wait.
AMERICA NEEDS THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS WORLD!
This Asshat has never done anything good for anyone but himself!
Yes. There definitely needs to be a limit on the number of times they can service us.
Yea, like this is really going to fly.
Sen. Jim DeMint is on the right track, I would like to see eight year terms just like the President has. Thank you Sen. DeMint
amke it one term and no benefits and no lobbyist work.
they can serve pro bono. NO PAY
Robert Byrd has been in the Senate 10 years longer than I've been alive. He has spent the better part of this year at home or in a hospital. How much representation has his state been getting from him? I don't believe the Founding Fathers ever imagined some one running for office over and over again. I believe they thought a person would serve their term and head home and let the next citizen due his duty.
There's another way to amend the Constitution, a way initiated by the states rather than by Congress
"The Congress ... on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which ... shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress..."
This mechanism has never been used, but it's there to guard against the possibility that Congress decides it can ignore the interests of the states–which, come to think of it, is exactly what they're doing.
Finally, someone in Washington with some sence. Its a REpub and not a DEm, because Dems LIE and then act like Osamabama.
About time, but just like Line Item Veto's, this will not go anywhere because too many in Congress have their pockets lined with money and have become professional politicians
BAD IDEA!!! We passed the same term limits in CA years ago (6 yrs Assembly, 12 yrs Senate) and now instead of "career politicians" we have the most incompetent state legislature in the country. I used to work for an Assemblyman and the joke was they spent their first term learning their job, their second term doing their job, and their third term campaigning for their next job. There is more benefit and less harm in having experienced legislators than imposing term limits just to force a change.
These senators are welcome to leave the Senate any time they wish. American voters can limit the terms of their lawmakers at appropriate intervals as determined by the Constitution. The effrontery of such a ragtag group of political hacks to suggest they know better than the American people whom to send to Washington and for how long would be funny if they weren't delusional enough to take themselves seriously.
Can Sen. Tom Coburn Sen. and Jim DeMint and Sen. leed the way and do this voluntarily ? It would be such an attraction rather then a promotion if they did resign with humility and self reserve after Two terms and not become lobbyists for the NRA or Viagra .
The Constitution is fine is this area. It's campaign financing that needs to be reformed. We already have term limits. They're called elections and the voters should be able to elect whomever they choose, whether you or I agree with there choice.
The problem is the huge advantage that incumbents have with financial support. Campaign finance reform is the only way to change this and maintain a democratically elected Congress.
just votem them out.
It is about time this happens there is a term limit for president why not Congress, the Repulicans are exactly right if we want change we need people to not be there forever.
The problems with term limits are that termed out they become entrenched lobbyists and a great productive Senator could be excluded from reelection. Sounds like blather.
Great Idea! But it'll never happen. The power hungry syndrome sets in very quickly. They never want to leave.
Yes! Do it. Then we can have tort reform instead of socialism and public options!
Best idea I have ever heard of...too bad it will never be a reality. Here in Massachusetts where we tend to elect our Senators for life. All that power makes them think they are God-like.
We already have limits to office - it's called ELECTIONS. If you don't do the job your constituents voted you in to do, you're out.
Mr. Demint, that's why your party got your pink slips in 2006 and 2008 (more of your party will join the unemployment line next year).
Despite your party's/MSM trumping of the STATE POLITICS Va and NJ elections (where a majority of exit polls said Obama had nothing to do with the decisions & the fact that Dems won in 2001 and 2005 in those states), you lost 5 special NATIONAL congressional elections in a row. One of them hasn't been blue since the CIVIL WAR. That would be the NY-23 election (conservative district) the MSM (especially Fox Noise) forgot to pontificate on and spin to the nth degree.
Mr. Demint, you were looking in the mirror when you were talking about 2010 being all "Waterloo" like.
best idea out of the GOP in ages. we cannot allow out country to be betrayed by politicians who are perpetually campaigning.
There are approximately three Republicans who are sincere about this.
Where was any of this talk when they held the Presidency and both houses of Congress?
It comes up every time the Republicans are in the minority and then goes away if they get the majority.
Wow all of the sudden these people want to do this. Ironic the timing? I'm all for it but these people suggesting it don't know what being real and honest is all about. It is whatever is best for them. I think we should kick everyone out of office and get rid of the pollsters and the big mouth radio and tv personalities. Than we might get this country back for the people, by the people and of the people. Until then, the sheep will continue to be led to slaughter like there were over the past 8 years.
This is something that I can support. Democrat, Republican or Independents should be jumping at this idea but of course we the people don't get to vote on this issue. Only the people that it will affect so we know that will never happen.
Isn't Jim Demented the idiot who wants to kill healthcare reform for the purpose of "breaking" President Obama?
Yeah...this guy sure has the "best interests" of the country in mind (sarcasm).
BTW-If it wasn't for term limits, Bill Clinton would have easily been elected to a third term as President, and we wouldn't be in the mess that we're are in right now due to the boneheaded policies of Dick Cheney and "W".
I LIKE THE IDEA WITH ONE MINOR CHANGE . . .
Yes, allow the Senators to serve a max of two terms for a total of 12-years; but have the Congressman (lower house) serve a max of six 2-year terms for a total of 12-years.
I would have to agree and say about time. 12 years is plenty of time to learn and do the job right .instead of letting all lobbists rule our congress.congress would work for the people! knowing that it would no longer have to suck up to these people. or it could backfire. and most of the people elected would try and get rich real quick, and really mess up america. It would all depend on how honest our congress wants to be!
This is the best way to make our congress accountable to us the electorate. Most of our congress members have lost touch with the people they are supposed to be representing and are instead pursuing the interests of lobbyst who fund their campaigns that enable them get re-elected.
Senator Kennedy is gone. Are they afraid another of his greatness might appear?
This is the right idea – set reasonable term limits, and implement them twenty years in the future. The vested interests will never agree to endanger themselves in the near future. It seems like a long time, but if this approach had been taken, and succeeded, in 1994, we'd be almost there now. Twenty years is a short span in the history of our country.
ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa yeah like thats going to happen. fire them all. never mind term limits, fire all of these people, every last one of them.
please..................... lets get real. more wasting of our money, this is never going to happen
Amen. I agree wholeheartedly with the Senator. Now that's doing something for the good of the country and not yourself...
Funny thing here is that if this was an idea of the Democrats then every single liberal in this country would be backing the idea but since it comes from Republicans they will hate it.
What a crock.
If Dems want to prove they really want to change Washington then back this plan and get this thing passed.
Only when these crooks are limited in their terms can we actually get real change. Without term limites these politicians will keep lining their pockets with all the money that gets thrown at them.
Democrats and Republicans alike need to be reigned in and shown the door when their time is up. This legislation is way long overdue but the Dems keep promising change but providing "politics as usual"
God Bless America.
All in good faith.... the republicans only want to look good... I hope they choke on it.
The party of lies bought and paid for by business. I would however, come back to the party if they promised term limits and lobby reform.
Very seriously needed. Our Congress lifers just get too comfortable in office. Watch the general productivity of elected officials over time. It plummets. Plus, such legislation would help reduce the chances of fraud and lobbying efforts. Term limits would make Congress much more productive and much more valuable to the folks they represent. It will not happen though.
Oh please–term limits will not stop corruption.
Just because you (Republicans) lost in the last major election cycle, doesn't mean you should mess with the Constitution. Get over it,. Also don't worry about the next major election cycle. The education system has demised so much that alot of people don't understand how government works. They voted for Obama (I voted for Obama) with the expectation of instant change. He never promised that. Many of us are in financial distress. We must have the patience to let the system work. which includes staying involved. and contacting our representatives.
I strongly support the idea of term limits! I think, however, that before dealing with that issue, the most important benefit the Senate and House can give the American people is to include THEMSELVES in whatever Health Care Reform they pass and the President signs. Unless the President, Congress, the Supreme Court, and all other public officials put themselves on the line with the rest of us, health insurance and health care will always be a two-tierd system (or three-tierd system, if Medicaid continues as it is). Why should our "PUBLIC SERVANTS" have a more generous health insurance program than the rest of us? Put your and your families' lives (and health care) on the line, and make us all equal! Then we, the American people, will believe that you truly are working FOR us!
the best news i've herd since the election!!!
It's about time someone came to their senses. Doubt lawmakers would approve as they have a caddilac of a retirement plan and want to stay on the gravy train.
Limit the way campaigns are financed, not the number of terms that may be served. The voters have the ultimate choice–and if the voters are happy with their senator or representative, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them putting that person back into office. This measure is just useless grandstanding.
Republicans are the kings of wasting everybody's time.
I don't see a problem with this. While we are at it, can we amend the constitution so if more then x% of our military is out fighting overseas, we institute the draft and start a war tax? Maybe then the population will pay attention to who we are bombing and why.
With all due respect, it should be the right of citizens to determine how long somebody can serve, not congress.
Does this mean we can get rid of Nancy P. and Harry R. WOW!!
Of course democrats don't want term limits. They just want all the power they can get so they can meet their primary goal of destroying this country. We can all thank them for supporting this "health care" bill which would REQUIRE everyone to buy health insurance. This outrageous assault on our freedom goes over the top and every member of the house who voted for it should have be turned out of the House immediately. Oh, if only America would wake up to the reality of what is going on. How many people have died to protect our freedom? and the liberals are quickly destroying it.
CNN, you haven't posted one of my comments in a long time; how about this one...please.
the first to go should be Demint, he is the worst senator S.C. has had since the civil war. idiots in power what an idea!!
Absolutely......... Term limits would remove a lot of corruption. Amen,,, get it done. It would be good for both parties.
This would be welcome news for all political beliefs. With term limits career politicians would be a thing of the past and perhaps we could get a House & Senate that exists to serve the people....
Why there is no term limits on Congress is beyond me. Term limits would lower corruption.
A "No Brainer"! Get the bums and their seperate health care and pension funds out of MY pockets!
Now all of a sudden, Demint who is poised to enter his 12th year in Congress wants term limits? Lead by example Demint, resign tomorrow. Funny, I don't think he walks the walk he talks........just another GOP Hypocrite!
12 – 24 years sounds like a good limit. And it should be the same for senate and house.
Excellent idea! I have been saying the same thing for a long, long, time. Put term limits on senators and reps and maybe some changes will happen in this country when it is no longer about butt kissing in order to get re-elected.
Term limits are up every 4 – 6 years when the lawmakers are up for reelection.
It is amazing how republicans all the sudden are pushing term limits now that they are not in power.
I say we limit the terms of Republican'ts.
FINALLY THIS IS WHAT AMERICA NEEDS!!!!!! We don't need any more Kennedys in at 40 and out at 80. They stay in washington all week PARTY and take care of the good old boys.! Then go home to thier mansions and yachts. They have no clue what middle class America has to endure. GET RID OF THEM!
The motivation behind this recent push is obvious. They want to get rid of Nancy Pelosi and the popular democrats. They haven't been able to do it by way of the vote, so now they are proposing to do it through a new law. How well do term limits work? Haven't we already enacted term limits in the past? I seem to recall something about term limits several years back. I think it was during the Clinton Administration. What happened to those term limits?
This is a purely political desperate move by the Republicans. Pathetic.
My question is what is the incentive to do something right, something your constituents want or need, or is in the long term interest, if you can't reap the rewards because you are no longer in office. We all know how long congressional action takes, what would truly get passed if members had to to spend their first two years learning the process, the next two years becoming experts in an issue area, and the next two years trying to get maybe one bill passed....is this really the answer? What will this really accomplish?
All politics are local including the right to be able to re-elect who we want in office as often as we want them in office. Usually the party in the minority always comes up with this idea of term limits when it See's a bleak future for itself because they know a popular candidate will be elected over and over again.. When the Dems proposed term limits years ago some of the very Republicans calling for them now were totally against them..
I am glad to see that Senator Jim DeMint is sensitive to the burdens on the middle class taxpayer and hope that term limits of members of congress will become law asap. Congress can not efficiently manage our public assets and similarly operate our country when some of those members behave as if it is their birthright to live and die in Congress.
Philip Maloof
Republican or Democrat we all need to support this.
The motivation behind this recent push is obvious. They want to get rid of Nancy Pelosi and the popular democrats. They haven't been able to do it by way of the vote, so now they are proposing to do it through a yet another law on term limits. I love how these self-righteous people talk about eliminating corruption through term limits, when they are unwilling to limit their own terms. If you truly believe in term limits, why not step down after two terms regardless of what everyone else is doing. I believe some representatives and senators have, in fact, done that. You don't need a law to limit yourself. All you need is a conscience.
It's not very often that I whole-heartedly support a Republican-backed measure; though I question if these same people would support this Amendment proposal when they were in power?
Really?!? We're supposed to be talking about healthcare, but we're focusing on this??? Right...
Bravo! As someone who, if forced, would identify as Democrat I have to applaud the effort by Republicans to create such term limits. I couldn't have made a better quote regarding how endless terms end up making career politicians – on both sides of the political aisle, mind you.
I would love an age to dawn where politicians were more interested in actually serving their constituency than raising funds for their next race, or watering down *any* legislation to be more palpable to an ever centralizing base of people.
We need strong leaders who are ready to make tough decisions – decisions that are *not* popular with the average Joe.
I believe 12 years for House Reps and 18 years for Senators.
Nevertheless, I am impressed that an existing politician is endorsing term limits.
I applaud this effort
Term limits...what a noble idea! I wonder how many democrats are going to vote for this? Probably none because democrats are notorious for unlimited spending of tax payers' money.
Term limits? Yeah right. There is no way at this point in time that members of either party would ever put limits on themselves and put an end the amount of money and power they have made for themselves.
Amen !!
But I think both should be a maximum of 8 years.
Term limits are appealing to people fed up with elected officials. Here in California where the state offices have had term limits for quite a while now, term limits have not delivered the proposed benefits. Our state legislature is, if anything, less responsive to voters than it was before term limits. They are not even able to make a deal to get to a decision on critical issues like the state budget and preserving the state's credit rating. Legislators are now too dependent on the party apparatus and donors for their next election and their next career step after term limits. Term limits have not worked in California. So no thanks to federal term limits.
Many of you out there may not like California, but that doesn't mean you should not learn from our mistakes.
Another option is to repeal the 17th amendment and give the states back the power to send state legislators to the senate and will undoubtedly erase the influence of money in senate campaigns. It would also give more of a balance between the states and the federal government. Senators would have to answer to their respective states instead of the interest of corporations and lobbyists.
We have term limits in Michigan...I even voted for it when the proposal was put before the voters. However, time has shown that what has happened is that we have lost a vast amount of institutional knowledge and there is not enought time under term limits for legislators to learn the ropes to the point that things actually get done in a constructive way. So, while this may sound like a good idea to right-wing extremists/anarchists, in practice it's a bust.
finally, get those criminals out!
Although I'm as far left as they come, I have to completely agree with them. You get guys who've been in there for over 40 years and they've somehow amassed great wealth. If the President of the United States has a term limit, all elected officials should as well.
FINALLY!!! A RATIONAL THOUGHT!
God bless the men and women who sign this legislation. This is the ONLY way we can combat corruption among the filthy Democrats and Republicans in Congress.
The incompetence of our elected officials is exceeded only by the incompetence of the American electorate in foolishly re-hiring them at every election.
We do not need term limits. We already have them. It is called "voting." The only law that needs to be changed is to return the Senate to its constitutional form by restoring the power to elect senators to the state legislatures.
Again, WE ALREADY HAVE TERM LIMITS. It's called the "vote." Unfortunately, an ignorant American electorate refuses to exercise them.
Be careful what you wish for these days. Term limits will give more power to industry and those who lobby. Term limits has been a disaster in California. Industry representatives ( a kind name for what they do) are not bound by term limits. With the constant turnover and inexperience of the newly elected, industry will run rough shod over newly arriving legislators. It does not surprise me that this a republican initiative, after all they are the new corporate slaves and easily interchangeable.
The only way to end the cycle of corruption in our government is to place a limit on how long these people can feed at the trough.
Two terms in the Senate and three terms in the House are too many. If an elected official can't get the job done in one term they need to leave and give someone else a chance.
Many of them are others Baggage.
This idea is long past. Many in congress seem to be out for No. 1. Themselves. Some have gotten sweetheart deals and gotten low mortgage rate. Nothing happens to them.
It is time we kick the crooks out. Unfortunately there are honorable people there to. But that is the price we must pay to clean up congress.
This is something the public should vote on – like 14 years ago it will not pass
It's very easy to be a Republican congressman - you don't have to think. It's quite difficult to be a Democrat congressmen, or even a Democratic party leader. Term limits to will not assist change, but will most certainly hinder it. Simply put, strong leaders are in short supply. Change can take years. When a person is in congress to advance an agenda, they should be allowed to stay for as long as is necessary. (provided the agenda is reasonable).
This is a rare occasion when I find myself agreeing with a GOP politician. Next I will learn how many terms HE has been on the public gravy train. I would add NO more lifetime pensions and free "socialized medical care" for any politician.
What a great idea!
How about backround checks too? Why is the guy who cleans the floor needs one but the people in charge dont?
Term limits is just a way for someone else, not in my voting district, to vote for my representative. If I am perfectly satisfied with the person who represents me in Congress, why should I not have the right to vote for that representative?
I am a democrat and I wholeheartedly support this amendment. I've been talking about this for some time now. My personal idea was to serve 2 terms then not be allowed to run again for another 2 terms. Basically letting some new blood in there and do some good. I can't believe this was a republican idea seeing how there are some REALLY old republicans in there but I guess there are on both sides.
So yeah, I'm all for this change. People get in there as representatives and just loose touch after years and years serving and begin to think they know what is best for everyone.
Easily the most intelligent thing I've heard from Congress in a long time. There was a great article in Newsweek recently that points out why the Supreme Court is so effective at effecting change in the country: no need to run for election or reelection. Imagine how powerful and effective a congressman or senator would be if they didn't feel the need to pander to their base or raise funds for the next election.
This is the best idea I have heard out of Washington in many many years. I fully support this idea.
We already have term limits, they are called elections.
If this effort was proposed by anyone but a Republican, I would find it interesting to know more about the idea,reasoning ,etc. But , in as much as it is a Republican proposal I would dismiss the idea out of hand for obvious reasons.The Repubs are grasping at anything they can,including straws, to attempt a restructuring of their place in the political scene, They thought they were being clever with their "Party of no" but I believe , the title has turned on them and I bet they will find this out to their sorrow during the next election.
The house and senate already have term limits – it's called elections. The real issue here is gerrymandering. Otherwise, the people get their vote. Special interests and big money will always be a factor with lawmakers new and old.
Wow!
Senator DeMint has my support. The lifetime permanent politicians in Washington need to go. We want real change.
If you are really interested in "Term Limits", take time to review the history of term limits in California. Yes, term limits were passed by the voters, but the snakes who refer to themselves as State Representatives and Senators, add a referendum every few years, trying to overturn the Term Limit. If you think for a minute that a group of Republicans, or Democrats, or Independents really want term limits, you need to stop and smell the roses. Everyone of the folks talking-up this concept have received money from Healthcare Insurance and Pharmaceutical Companies. If it passes, all of the members of the House and Senate will just become Lobbyists. Term Limits should mean just that – LEAVE WASHINGTON FOR GOOD!
What a joke! How about addressing the real problem like "K" Street lobbyists? Like real campagin finance reform-no corporate donations and that includes unions too? How about really working for the good paycheck and benefits that they are getting paid for? How about limiting how many days paid vacation they get?
Sounds like a plan. You have my vote but I think it should be even, Senate and House 12 years maximum. While we're at it, lets cut the retirement salary and health care for life crap. It's really insulting.
OMG! The Republicans have come up with a good idea! It's the Apocalypse! They NEVER have good ideas!
I am totally opposed to term limits, even the ones that currently exist. I want the right, with my vote, to limit a representative's term and to reward those doing a good job with another one. Real power rests with the people and their votes. Here in California term limits have been a disaster. No one is in the legislature long enough to make a lasting mark, and by the time they really learn the ropes and can be effective, they're term-limited out. Our legislature is a circus. It's silly and ridiculous. And politicians end up playing musical chairs. Let's face it. Had we not had term limits for Presidents (one maybe 3 terms) both Reagan and Clinton would have been easily re-elected. I know the reasoning for term limits. I just disagree with it.
More specifically, I am from Maine and I am represented by two Republicans in the Senate and a Democrat in the House of Representatives. I believe all three of them to be fine legislators, intelligent and fair. Each of them represents the state of Maine very well. Why should someone from South Carolina, Oklahoma, Kansas, or Texas take away my right as a citizen of Maine to vote for the candidate from Maine whom I think would best represent my state?
Should term limits come to pass – all monies raised for future campaigns should be turned over to the U.S. Treasury to cover the expense of cleaning up the mess these folks will leave. The "Founding Fathers" must be laughing as they watch the circus we call the U.S. House and Senate. Do not let these people leave Washington with millions of money given to them by lobbyists, PAC's, Healthcare Insurance, and Pharmaceutical Companies.
Sounds good at first glance, but remember that members of Congress are elected and the proposed amendment not only would limit a politican from running for office, but it would also limit my ability to vote for that person.
The problem with Congress is not the length of tenure, it is money and the power that money brings. Political campaigns are expensive, so politicans spend an inordinate amount of time raising money. Despite claims to the contrary, only a fool would believe that contributors to political campaigns are better represented than the voters.
If the Congressman is serious about reforming Congress, he would be advised to press for legislation that would limit the amount of money flowing into Congress. It is the money flowing into the political process that has made the capitol the ethical cesspool that it has become.
Second para should have read: Despite claims to the contrary, only a foool would believe that contributors do not have better representation than voters.
As much as I tend to dislike some of the long-serving members of congress, the effect of term limits in state legislatures has been to increase reliance on lobbyists and staff rather than decrease it. A new member of congress is much more likely to turn to a seasoned lobbyist or staff member for advice when they have less of their own legislative experience. While a popular position amongst conservatives, it's really a bad idea for the country.
We have heard this before with the Contract with America. Then as soon as the GOP was the Majority Party we never heard another word about it. How stupid does the GOP think the America public?
They are really trying to replay 1994 all over again. Please GOP get some new thoughts OK.
This is an absolutely stupid idea! Particularly for the house. You cannot do anything in only six years in the house and it takes time to be able to learn processes and gain momentum for anything. With this in place, even less would get done! If people like the job their representatives or senators are doing, let them stay in office. If they don't like what they are doing, that is what the ballot box is for! If these people are truly no longer listening to their constituents, they will be voted out. In the meantime, you have to let people learn the system and have a chance to advocate their policies.
At last !!!!!
Can it be ?
A proposed law in Washington that makes sense !
And make them buy their own health insurance....
This is a long time coming and an excellent idea. I pray this actually gets passed and enacted.
Suggested only when in the minority party in an effort to oust some Dems... way to go GOP... why not come up with ideas to help this country rather than constant attacking/whining? Yes this could help... but it would have been nice to see efforts to directly impact hardships today.
Ironically, the republicans made this same manuever the last time there was a democrat president. Contract with America. Then, of course, when their terms came to a close, they almost all forgot about that term limits thingie.
Senator Jim DeMint, you are a hypocrite. Instead of you and your moron friends concentrating on the issues of the day that will help the average American, you are there talking about 'Term Limits in the congress'. What have you achieved in the congress for the years you have been there? Come to think of it, you have been in Washington since 1998. 6 years as a representative and 4 years as a senator. By the time you are done with let us say 2 terms as a senator, that will be 18 years in Washington. Senator Jim DeMint just focus and do what the people of South Carolina sent you to do and stop beating around the bush.
This is something that is long overdue.
I would be for term limits too if my party was at 20% and still falling. What would you have to lose?
This notion should be voted on and given the swift death that it so richly diserves. First, getting super majorities in the House and Senate are problematic, then ratification by a super majority of states who may change their minds any time prior to certification of the 75% ratification vote.
Lots'a Luck Fools
a great way to get rid of all those regressive liberal loons.
i agree with this guy we need to kick out the old farts
One of the few Republican proposals I can get behind for a good while. Though I find the current lack of any comment on this by the GOP leadership telling.
Democrats: Want something to throw at Steele and his folks? Start making some noise on this amendment!
I agree, but not only Congress....the Senate too...lets be fair about it you Republicans. I would also like right wing lug nuts, to be...if they are ever elected...to be only elected in name only, and never be able to serve in any capacity (tongue in cheek)....but, not a bad thought.
I agree with him, but I doubt the congress will pass such amendment; this should be done thru a third party committee “something similar to the 911 committee” although I do not know how constitutional would that be.
Good. I hope it gets where the people can vote on the issue.
If the President is only limited to two terms due to Congress not being happy over FDR's re-elections, the people should be allowed to vote on if Congress should have a similar rule.
If it is approved as a Constitutional amendment, this may prevent career politicians like Sen Bond (R) or Speaker Pelosi (D). I think that would greatly help our political system.
it's kinda hard tohave lasws changed when the law regarding term limits when the people writing and passing the laws are looking out for their own interest. term limits should apply to judges also. the idea of a supreme court judge sitting on the bench for 30 or 40 years go against the intents of the framers of the constitution. legislators and judges staying in office ad infinitium is a situation that has become institutionalized since the mid 20th century. before that, individuals stepped down in a fairly reasonable time frame. legislators and judges should exercise some resonable judgement in the face of a lace of legislation compelling them to do so.
CORRECTION!! Real change will never happen in America until we end the era of REPUBLICANS!!
Cool. How about limiting GOP senators and representatives to one term only? Most of them like Coburn dont like being lawamakers anyway...it gets in the way of their real agendas.
Finally...I hope it passes. Election to office should not be never ending or for profit, serve and go back to private sector.
Finally a politician in Washington making some sense! Let's set term limits on the career politicians and get some real turnover and possibly open up a chance for a valid third party to thrive. I just hope enough politicians do the right thing and vote this in instead of worrying only about staying in power!
God bless you, Sen. Jim DeMint. Our President is limited to 2 terms, why not the rest of congress?
I ABSOLUTELY support this!
Finally! Some common sense in regards to term limits! We have it for the President, why not for the permanent politicians? They still get their Congressional salary for life, even after they are not in office, so I think that should go as as well...let's do like they do and slip that little gem in at the 11th hour!
The answer to the issue of accountability is not term limits, but rather doing away with the practice of gerrymandering, which makes the vast majority of districts virtually a "lock" for one party or the other. If you make EVERY district competitive, then every election season there will be a fair battle of theories and ideas, and the incumbent will have to defend his/her votes and actions. In such a scenario, term limits become unnecessary, and true accountability to the people becomes the standard, rather than the exception.
This is a terrible idea. Republicans say the Supreme Court should not tinker with the constitution. Why do they now want to change the founding father's now that they are out of office ? Hypocrisy !
BEST IDEA EVER. Once again, Republicans staying true to what real politicians (i.e. the founding fathers) mean't for government. You know a true patriot when they are not as interested in their personal job situation vs. the interest of the country. If they formally propose this, and vote on it, and do not pass it, there will be reprocussions.
WOW! I am a "bleeding heart, left wing commie pinko socialist liberal," and I agree with this REPUBLICAN... Can you imagine that?
In studying the origins of the United States of America, I found that our Founding Fathers never intended to have career politicians running our country... Now they didn't put that in writing, but those sentiments can be found from numerous sources.
Let's end endless careers in politics AND make BIG changes in how campaigns are financed. Make it more profitable to get back into the private sector so that there is less back room dealing.
Oh please. LET IT HAPPEN.
Get the "lifers" out of D.C. ASAP!
If it were to happen what would Jesse and Al do to earn money?
They might have to actually get a job.
No more Frank, Dodd, et al. I LOVE IT!!!
Sounds good but the real problem is the money game in American politics
The candidates spent almost 1bn dollars in campaigns and god knows how much the lobbies and vested interests added to that.
Ban pork barrel amendments attached to bills and force people to vote on the issue and purpose of legislation. = you want 2m dollars for pig smell research put a bill forward and get it voted on house and senate takes afew seconds to read and literally electronic voting wise another 10 secs
A minimum quorum vote of attendees 20 each House Republicans and Democrats and then 10 each in the senate. simple majority OK affected state senators and representatives banned from voting as proposers or seconders.
Those two will clean up a lot more combined with term limits and if the president is limited to two terms keep it simple two terms each for Senate and House.
Regards,
Hodgson.
Term limits, screamed the GOP before 1994, the silence now after 2006 the GOP wants guess what, Term limits again.. at least until they take congress again.
I don't have a problem with term limits, although I do think that the ones proposed here are a bit too short. Perhaps they should be 8 years in the House and 18 years in the Senate. I think that 18 years may be a bit long, but 12 years is too short, and given that Senators are elected for 6 years, there's no middle ground.
The problem with very short term limits is that there is so much turnover that you can have a breakdown in continuity. You end up with people coming and going so quickly that Congressional leaders may not be much more experienced than freshmen. And, since lobbyists have no such term limits, they can exert greater influence, since they'll be more familiar with the way things work in government than many of the members of Congress.
this is probably a good idea because we have too many career politicians in the house and senate. I think 12 years for both the senate and the house would be a great idea.
What if the Census Bureau redraws all the voting districts to be equal and no longer Gerrymandered? Maybe a challenger might not need to be a millionaire to beat an incumbent. The people might have a chance to elect somebody not beholden to special interests...
Nothing but the usual ideological wedge issue. Having more turnover would just mean more candidates needing to suck up to campaign contributors to win their first election. It would accomplish nothing. Term limits play a big role in the structural ineffectiveness of the California Legislature.
They should make it an even 12 for both- 2 terms for Senators & 6 terms for House Members..
Why can't this be put on the ballot? Unfortunately, the people in Congress will never vote themselves out of job security. This should have been done years ago. People in Congress should not have benefits for life either. They should live like every other American.
Hear-hear! Methinks the "DC coterie", so to speak, has had way too many years establishing 'kingdoms", also so to speak. Might be time to get some more "new blood" into the Senate, especially, and really start to look at the problems we have within our own country. DC has certainly been ignoring it's voters for waaaay too long now. I'm still praying for our new, young president. He wants some good change in this country and I think we should give him a chance. DC has been entrenched in its old ways for too long. Oh yeah...I'm a 63 year-old woman who is still hoping that we can come back together as a country and work on this stuff together. Still a pollyanna...sigh...
I totally agree with this.
Term limits would drastically change the dynamic in Washington. We should not have career politicians.
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He must think we the people are really stupid. Term limits, proposed by a republican. This has to be a scam to get votes. No way will these vile corrupt people, ever give up there power. The only way things will change is when all of america's working class rise up and take there power away from them. I'am probably wasting my time here because cnn will probably not post my comment, because they know they have a lot of power, to broadcast their views. Are you listening Wolf.
Nice thought but unless there is massive public pressure it will never happen.
Maybe the Republicans can set an example by all stepping down voluntarily when they reach these benchmarks.
It would show the country they stand on principle but I am sure that few will. The Republicans for the most past are just as hypocritical and play politics just like the sad Democrat party.
America would be better off if conservative Senators like DeMint didn't seek political office ever.
What a great idea. This will prevent the political parties from running loser candidates against the incumbents to keep career politicians in office.
Another advantage will be to reduce the constant fund raising by career politicians to stay in office.
Maybe we can get back to electing the best person to the office rather than the lessor of two evils.
We should limit each body to two terms as we do the president. I love it!
. The american public votes senators in office and we kick them out if we don't like what they are doing. We don't need term limits for congressional office. Why the heck would republicans take away the people's right to elect who they want? what is wrong with these people? God forbid if we want to limit gun control though, because you know that would actually make sense. talk about being out of touch with the "real american people".
great idea! just as our fore fathers envisioned. but dont make it an even number, make it an odd number, like....one.. 11 year term!
I gree send all of them home No incumbent should ever run again.
Create more political parties to give more choice to the voters.
Term limits are an afront to true democracy. Term limits always benefit the Republicans as they have money to run elections. Term limits have taken its toll here in Ohio. One we lose great leglislators due to this stupid. The republicans controlled both houses as they kept playing musical chairs until Obama ran, and we finally have the state senate and something is finally getting done. You cannot get things done with mandated term limits. Again, term limits are the opposite of democracy and always help big business and not the average little guy on the street.
If any congressperson (House or Senate), regardless of party were truly serious about congressional term limits, why wont they pool together their resources to get the states to call for a Constitutional Convention. It is disturbing that the media and Congress want to keep telling US that only THEY can amend the Constitution. Bring it to the states for support, if Congress will not act on their own, enough states calling for a convention (and removing Congress from the reigns of deciding how the Constitution is amended) will. Congress has done it before to keep the rabble rousing states from writing amendments, and with enough of a threat they will do it again...
This is an excellent idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Nobody should be able to make absurd promises they can't keep just to get re-elected
My god finally a great idea from Washington.
This is the Best idea for getting rid of the abused REALITY OF Representative or Senate Member being there far beyong his
time and create a better mix of public servants.
In addition, THE FACT that members' huge retirement package is paid after serving just one term .....is a bunch of Nonsense. This golden group of benefits should be changed also, and the whole of Congress MUST HAVE THE SAME HEALTH INSURANCE AS COMMON CITIZENS. They should no longer receive any Retirement Benefits other than a match of what they put into a Fund while
serving.
There is more graft and corruption among the Members who have served for many, many years. When is Mr. Byrd going to retire?
When is he ever in attendance? He should resign.
The longest serving office Members engage in corruption and favors and think nothing of it. They believe it is their 'right' to
break the law, refuse to pay the IRS, and lie on their Tax Returns,
just like Charlie Wrangle. This man should be kicked right out of the House, because he did not pay his taxes and lied about it. In addition, he's been arrogant about his lies and thinks that he is
above the law.
About time...........! Ole people do not need to be seating down making decisions after 65. It's the 21st century and most of them thinks it's the 1980's all over again. No change will ever come about with wingnuts making decisions for the country.
TIME LIMITS FOR CONGRESS AND SENATORS! These people have money and do not understand how the average american has to live from paycheck to paycheck..... TIME LIMITS PLEASE!
Definitely a good idea.
Fantastic!!!!! Now this would be some REAL CHANGE to our political system. Our founding fathers never intended for our leaders to become career politicians. I have felt for a long time that representatives and senators that have held their seats for decades have become entrenched and no longer have the interest of their constituents in mind. Money has the power to corrupt absolutely and the more time these people spend in Washington, the accustomed they become to the power and money and the more incentive they have to stay. At this point, their primary concern becomes getting re-elected and not governing the country to do what's best for the majority of people.
Yes I realize that we have free and open elections, and it is indeed the constituents that keep voting these people into office. However, as we've seen in recent years, spending on campaigns has become astronomical. These days it takes a ridiculous amount of money for staff and advertising to win an election. In essence, winning an election is BIG BUSINESS. Thus, the more entrenched a congressman becomes, the more money he/she has coming into the coffers, and the more difficult the incumbent becomes to beat. So, yes the people do cast the ballots, but when the incumbent can outspend the opponent with advertising, it becomes nearly impossible to get them out of office.
Term limits will even the field and return us to a congress filled with civilians that truly represent their constituents. This will shift the focus away from getting re-elected and back to the business of doing what's right for the people.
C'mon congress....if you really want to make a change, limit yourselves and put the people back in power.
Amen. It will never happen though because those same crook's, thief's would have to pass it . They will not vote to cut off there gravy train. There addicted to the gravy.AKA the taxpayer dime.
For being Republicans this doesn't seem very conservative. Such a decision should be left up to the states.
Why does this only come up when Republicans are the minority?
Voting is a simple form of term limits. If someone is not performing to their constituents, then they can get voted out. There are a limited number of people who are willing to put up with the disgusting attacks thrown at politicians and to limit that pool through term limits makes no sense. The American public is smart enough to decide wether congressmen should be kept or discrarded.
Yeah, we tried this in California- would you like to see the results replicated at the national level? Politicians with term limits don't focus on their current roles. Their focus turns toward the next step: mayor, Congress, Lt. Gov., etc. America has had many good career politicians, and citizen servants as well. We just need a better media to give a clearer picture of who they are. Do we really want Congress to turn into a bunch of reality TV divas?
Now thats 'CHANGE I CAN BELIVE IN"
best. idea. ever.
Yeah, this and an amendment that makes it illegal to spend more than they take in annually. Too many creeps in both parties
This is the one thing I totally agree with these people on!
A CAPITAL idea! They're free to limit their own terms _immediately_ as far as I'm concerned.
Now this is a bi-partisan look at Change!!!!
Oh so now that the Democrats is the majority they want term limits. Yeah go ahead because that means all the do nothings that just sit and collect taxpayers money time in congress comes sooner. Why not limited it to 2 years that way maybe we can limit the complainers because thats all that they do.
Like most GOPer proposals is stinks! (phew)
LOL @ Republicans proposing this. You know they aren't being truthful.
Is he referring to the republican give-aways to the Insurance industry, the defense contractors, and Wall Streeters. If he wants term limits, he can just step down after his two terms are up.
This would be a great thing for our country. There are of course pro's and con's but it would finally get these stagnant and corrupt lifetime politicians a time limit to be self serving and pass horrible laws. I've been asking for this for years and is just below by desire to rid the country of the 2 party system(we need at least 3 for proper balance) and remove the lifetime appointments of federal judges. I have little to no hope that this will pass...but it is needed.
Honestly its the dumbest thing anyone could suggest.
Does anyone who support this not understand: these people are voted into the branch they serve...it is not a dictatorship. If you don't like them, oust them with your vote, not by law.
I really hate the term limit imposed on the presidency too. It was a dumb law passed after FDR was out of office, after he was ELECTED four times. He did arguably one of the best jobs, any man in that position has ever done. And based on those results (someone doing an outstanding job) it was decided that job should be limited? Why? Because George Washington served two terms? Thats exactly why. And it is retarded.
The only time I've ever been happy of the two term limit: when George 'the village idiot' bush was in power.
This is the best news I've heard all day. I know it doesn't stand a chance of passing, but this is something I've wanted for ages.
Thank you Senator DeMint. Term limits are way overdue.
Let's see we want the professional politications to vote themselves out of a job with term limits? Yeah right. Not only will Congress not go for this I doubt enough states will. There are states that like they have very senior members of both houses. Helps bring home the pork barrel bacon. Also when it takes special interest money to get elected no matter who's there nothing will change. Faces might but the policies will be the same.
Term limits are a completely moronic idea, look where the have taken California. Fact is politicians who have nothing to lose are either complete sell-outs are uncompromising idealist. Terrible idea.
I totally agree! Term limits!
"Americans know real change in Washington will never happen until we end the era of permanent politicians."
Correction Senator...
Real change in Washington will never happen until we end the era of OBSTRUCTIONIST politicians like YOU!
Spare me the term limits. This is the same group of GOP folks who allowed Tom Delay to gerrymander the states so that the GOP would rule forever.
What total hypocrisy!!
Besides who would run for the GOP......it is just a bunch of old farts from the South and a few midwestern states
I see this as a great way to reduce corruption and personal interests. We have a two term limit on our president so why not apply something similar on congress?
I normally don't agree with Mr. Waterloo, but this is worth doing. In addition, the same needs to be done with the Supreme Court. The danger with having career politicians is that an unnatural sense of entitlement that fosters revolving door style corruption can develop. "Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely." We the People are the deciders. That hasn't been the case in Washington. The problem isn't government. It's influence on government. The American government is supposed to exist for the purpose protecting and promoting the general welfare of American Citizens. Folks on the left and the right have forgotten that. We need to do more than just remember.
If we limit terms in congress via an amendment, surely we can also cut the senate's term, say from 6 years to just 4.
6 years is an awfully long time for someone to serve if the voters later decide he's a dud. Besides, we have congressional elections every 2 years elections anyway, so it wont increase the number of elections we have, only the frequency with which senators have to account for themselves with the voters.
But if we limit terms, it should be the same for both houses. It sounds like De Mint wants senators to still be able to acquire more clout than house members.
Congressional term limits should've been enacted decades ago!
A big problem now is that members of Congress have no real sense of what it's like out here in the real world. They get to sit in Washington DC all fat, dumb and happy, all while ignoring their constituents, and knowing that if they stay there long enough, they'll end up with a 6-figure annual pension! Plus, just like other jobs, if you sit there too long, you just end up stagnating.
We need to generate new blood; and my opinion, 10 years is plenty long enough for someone to spend in Congress!