November 12, 2009
Posted: November 12th, 2009 12:40 PM ET

KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) – Afghan President Hamid Karzai's office contacted the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan about reports the envoy warned against sending more U.S. troops to the country, a Karzai spokesman told CNN Thursday.

Ambassador Karl Eikenberry's office would not confirm the reports to Karzai's office, Karzai spokesman Seyemic Herawi said.

Karzai will not comment on the reports without more information from the U.S. embassy, Herawi said.

Eikenberry's reservations were reportedly spelled out in cables sent to U.S. President Barack Obama last week. Eikenberry has previously expressed worry about corruption in Karzai's government and its ability to partner with the United States to fight the Taliban.

A senior State Department official told CNN that the Obama administration has questions about Karzai's behavior, suggesting that it has been inconsistent.


Asked for an official response on reports of the cables, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul said it does not comment on private messages, but did confirm that there had been correspondence between Eikenberry and the president.

Earlier, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said, "We won't discuss classified documents publicly, but, as we have said for months, success in Afghanistan depends on having a true partner in the Afghan government."

Initial reports of cables sent by Eikenberry appeared in the New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times. All three attributed the reports to senior U.S. officials, without identifying them.

The developments came as Obama told his war council Wednesday that the U.S. troop commitment to Afghanistan is not open-ended, and then asked for revisions to options he previously received for sending more troops, a senior administration official told CNN.

The war council - comprising top Cabinet, Pentagon and administration officials - met with Obama for the eighth time to discuss a request by the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan for up to 40,000 more troops. The meeting lasted more than two hours, according to the senior administration official.

"The president and his team discussed the length of time that it would take to implement the options he's been presented," the senior official said. "The president believes that we need to make clear to the Afghan government that our commitment is not open-ended. After years of substantial investments by the American people, governance in Afghanistan must improve in a reasonable period of time to ensure a successful transition to our Afghan partner."

In particular, Obama pushed for revisions in proposed plans for troop increases to clarify how and when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government, the official said.

The president's questions at the meeting could determine how many troops eventually are sent to Afghanistan, as well as how long they would be there, according to the senior administration official.

Earlier, a senior administration official and a U.S. military official independently told CNN that one option presented to Obama calls for sending about 34,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan, in addition to the 68,000 already committed to the country.

The military official said the plan would send three U.S. Army brigades, totaling about 15,000 troops; a Marine brigade of about 8,000 troops; a headquarters element of about 7,000 troops; and 4,000 to 5,000 support troops. The combat brigades would be brought in gradually, in three-month intervals, according to the military official.

The troops would be spread across the country, mainly focusing in the south and southeast, where much of the fighting is, according to the military official. The option has been a favorite at the Pentagon in recent weeks, the official added.

That is only one option, the senior administration official emphasized. Three other options, the official said, would be "different mixes," or "different components of it."

Despite reports to the contrary, Obama has not decided the number of U.S. troops he will send to Afghanistan, White House officials said.

Such reports are "absolutely false," Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said. And anyone who suggests otherwise, "doesn't have, in all honesty, the slightest idea what they're talking about."

Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee urged Obama in a letter sent Wednesday - Veterans Day - to agree to the request for additional troops by U.S. military leaders in Afghanistan.

The letter, signed by 10 Republican committee members, said success in Afghanistan will require local leaders and citizens being able to govern and secure their country without substantial international assistance.

– CNN 's Suzanne Malveaux, Mike Mount, Chris Lawrence and Tom Cohen
contributed to this report.

Filed under: Afghanistan • Obama administration


Stan   November 12th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

Typical Republican response – one hand says "Agree to send more troops NOW!" while the other says "We'll never be able to win unless they can do the work themselves." The two options seem mutually exclusive to me.

Abhishek   November 12th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

Hmm...well maybe after 8 years, what the Afghan people want will finally be heard. Instead of America telling what the Afghan people want.

Gary of El Centro, Ca   November 12th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

Karzai was Bush's guy........that alone would make me very suspiciuos of him. Time to cut bait and come back home.

silvertop   November 12th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

Why did this news leak out? That one of the president's concerns in not sending troops is the corruption of the Afgan government (though may be a fact.).

I worried immediately, that of all the conciliatory speeches he gave with political correctness to appease the muslim nations, this question has got to rile up the Afgan people, especially if we decide to move out. That sounds like an insult (even if the concern is merited) which would undo any bond between our countries for good.

Who leaked to the media? Of course the media will not think twice about the effect of reporting such sensational news for sensational news value.

Irresponsible, regardless of decision to send or not send.

Informed Voter   November 12th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

Thank goodness he is making a deliberate, well thought out decision, instead of going with his "gut" like his ill equipped predecessor would do. We are so blessed to finally have an intelegent leader!

Drew   November 12th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

I am glad President Obama is thinking about how and when he send troops to a country that would not welcome their present. People if we send the troops like the Repubs wants, we will be killing our young people for nothing. Why are we there in the first place? You Republicans started this mess so why can't you guys clean it up and get our troops out. Republicans like war, but if it was your child what would you say?

Bummed out by the Bozos   November 12th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

Jack Nicholson was right:

"We can't handle the truth'.

The spin is ridiculous.
The facts non-existent.
The photo-ops are limitless.

Does ANYONE know what is going on with these fellas?

Laura in KS   November 12th, 2009 2:20 pm ET

I'm glad our President is seriously weighing all options before making this decision. It's easy for us civilians to sit on our butts and criticize him for not immediately sending more troops, but what some seem to forget is that many of our troops are already serving their 3rd, 4th, even 5th tours in Iraq & Afghanistan. Think about how you'd feel if it was your son, daughter, husband, wife, father, mother that was going to be sent back as a result–quite possibly never to return. Yes, that is their job, and it is a noble one, but let's make sure it's worth it before sending them to possible death.

Traj   November 12th, 2009 2:17 pm ET

Thank you Mr. President, for having the calm and cool temper that is needed in these times. When everything is up in arms, there has to be a sensible person around to keep peace. No need to go rushing into the burning building when someone yells fire. Reason: You'll get burned... Duh!!!!

JonDie   November 12th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

The ambassador knows what he is talking about. We should cut Karzai loose...NOW!

Our soldiers shouldn't give their lives to protect this corrupt and incompetent dictator.

Pam from Tn.   November 12th, 2009 2:14 pm ET

There is No mission, No reason and No purpose!

stephen Pagnozzi   November 12th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

If Bush wasn't so preocupied with IRAQ, this conversation would have been academic! Either we would have concrete results by now, or we would have simply been forced to leave. Cannot fight 2 wars simultanously!!! I wish all our stupid Politicians would read a little history. We had no choice in WW11 but now we have. Iraq was a problem but not one where we had to go to war. Bush really screwed our country for a long time, And its going to take a long time to get back to a bit of normalcy.

Debbie   November 12th, 2009 2:04 pm ET

Glad Obama is being cautious.

Afghanistan is a non-win war. History shows that this cannot be a ground troops war either.

Bush did not get Osama as promised. Bush chose to focus on Iraq under false premises.

Now the issue has evolved and threats to us have grown.

Afghanistan must be fought smarter not just throwing more troops there. More troops will equal more bloodshed but not a win. Winning wars is a very WWII idea.

Today is very different because of the atomic bomb and its destruction. To use the A-bomb would be to not only start WWIII but the end to the world. So we look at war (evidence in Korean War) as to success/win to mean something very different than in the 1940's. It might be a DMZ zone, slow withdrawal, etc.

Our troops are beyond brave and should be appreciated. And we show our thanks to them by saying thank you as we meet them, and we do not send them into harms way without a mission and a withdrawl plan.

Jim in Florida   November 12th, 2009 2:02 pm ET

This is what happens when campaign donors are given ambassadorships. Kind of like Saddam playing the female ambassador like a fiddle before he invaded Kuwait.

Idiots

Mississippi Miss   November 12th, 2009 2:02 pm ET

This administration might as well hold their high level talks on the set of Saturday Night Live. Their 'strategy' sessions are a strategy unto themselves. Lights... camera... inaction...

Peace   November 12th, 2009 1:57 pm ET

War never give the anticipated results. Lives of those needed got lost and can not be replaced again. Better other solutions than using a gun. History has shown this!

CalDem   November 12th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

Careful, these guys are all about playing both ends against the middle to get what's best for them, not the US, not the West, or any other person on this planet.

Tom in Delaware   November 12th, 2009 1:52 pm ET

Barry votes present again....Happy Veterans Day.

C. Farrell, Houston, Tx   November 12th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

Karzai needs to take leadership in his own government which he hasn't done before questioning whether our President is going to send more troops. It's important that President Obama is taking his time which lets Karzai know this is a different administration with a different direction.

Sharon Northern Virginia   November 12th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

Bring our Troops home, PLEASE!!!!!!! Glad The President is thinking before acting.

Thi, California   November 12th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

We should remember why we have been in Afghanistan and why we were attacked on 9/11. Short memory is danger and results as ignorance.

Do not try to show tough on our friends to please our enemies, which will result in having more enemies and less true friend.

Do not under estimate the terrorists, they are intelligent and are able to create good causes to justify their actions. Obama's supporters seem to look down on people around the world, thinking that with nice words and promisses will make people to fall in love with Obama. Maybe American will but not foreigners

mary mtl can   November 12th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

A good call from the president,,

Thomas   November 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

This issue is too important for "cowboy" politics.

It is a complex issue and I am glad the POTUS is taking his time to make sure it is the RIGHT decision, not just and emotionally fast one.

La Chatte   November 12th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

We've more than worn out our welcome– if there ever was one– in Afghanistan. So did the Russians and the Brits. It's time to stop trying to oppose puppet governments in countries that clearly view us as an occupying force and don't want us there.

More troops? No! Get out now, Mr. Obama, before you really have your very own Vietnam.

Nea   November 12th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

People need to think any President ,Thats Good President thats considerate will not rush to send any toops in to harms way; people talking about he need to stop stalling and go ahead and send more of our troops to a country where we are not even sure that the enemy is present there maybe if we would have Dithered in the first place before the war began we wouldnt be talking about this now.My heart goes out to our troops and their family and just throwing them into harms way without any stratergy is irresponsible for any Presidnet so with that said Thank GOD for President Obama, Yes he have to make a decision but im glad he is not rushing to make it.

Allen   November 12th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

The best course of action is for us to leave Afghanistan ASAP. However, the President will not do it and the Right Wing will not allow it, because that will be too damaging to their imperialistic world view. What the President should do is work with the Pakistanis to squeeze both the Taliban and Al Qaeda form both sides until they have nowhere to go. This will require more troops, which will be escalating the war and besides, we can't trust the Pakistanis, especially their military, because they are in bed with the Taliban. There are no easy answers here. If there are, George Bush, as dumb and as incompetent as he was would have found it. The best we can hope for is to disrupt, dismantle, and destroy Al Qaeda as much as possible.

Hat Trick   November 12th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

I don't understand. Why would you send more troops to fight for and die to protect a corrupt government from brutal extremists.

It's a lose lose situation. Bringing everyone back makes more sense to me.

George   November 12th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

It is another Vietnam. So many die, and there is no end in sight. Bring them home. Too many have died. The money saved can be used to secure our borders and protect our country.
If Karzai were normal, and not a corrupt leader, some gains could be made, but he can not be trusted. Look at his election. Was all fraud, then his opponent backed out because I'm sure he was threatened or his family was.

Fools and their freedoms are soon parted   November 12th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

We still need to send in more troops to effect a safe withdrawal of those we have there...after we get our people out safely...then we can just bomb the crap out of them and be done with it.

Jean 2   November 12th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

I agree No more troops. THE MEDIA NEEDS TO STOP LEAKING!! THESE TALKS SHOULD BE DONE WITHOUT PUNDITS AND HIDEN AGENDAS.

WE TALK TOO TOO MUCH!!!

Robert Colorado   November 12th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

If we send more troops, it will only benefit the "War Machine" and the drug Czars. We need to start thinking about bringing our men and women back. This would be a moral value that their familys need to cling to, and not to the "moral values" of those that would not want this to proceed. It would be nice to see our men start marching home, instead of them returning in a "Coffin". "Forgive them Lord, for they do not know what they are doing".....

Bob Ramos   November 12th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

How does a soldier answer his family when they ask why he is going to Afgan? To help its people? They do not want us there. To fight AQ who attacked us 9/11? At this time, there are about 68K US troops there with about 10K other NATO troops to fight about 100 AQ troops. To keep the country from being take over by the Taliban thereby giving AQ a base to operate from? According to a Newsweek article, the Taliban feel betrayed by AQ because AQ never informed the Taliban they were planning 9/11. It is very doubtful they would trust them again. To support the Karzai government? Two senior officials – one UN and the other, the US Ambassador to Afgan – have proclaimed that the Karzai government is ineffective and corrupt and will not change.

Again, why are we in Afgan?

hongli   November 12th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

Hamid Karzai is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Karzai and his brother are the biggest drug lords and must be replaced by a decent human being that America can work with. I say ,NO MORE TROOPS until Karzai is TOASTED.

Chris ~ Albany, NY   November 12th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

I'd rather the President take his time and get it right the 1st time instead of being decisive and screw it up (BUSH) even more that it already is!

KMAN   November 12th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

Apparently, Obama has come to see the stupidity of sending more troops to die in the worthless armpit of the world! Afghansitan is hopelessly lost and steeped in a rotting culture. Bring our troops home, there was never anything to win over there.

tommygunn   November 12th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

If the numbers I heard last night are true....we are putting alot of resources in an area for no clear reasons.....

100 Taliban in Afganistan and 300 Taliban in Pakistan......

Our presents alone will start a stir, recruitment and alot of anti sentiments albeit western or religous....

A clear mission with budget accountability is what the PARTY OF NO (REPUBLICANs) should be calling for. Isn't it funny I haven't heard anyone make that statement in regards to this WAR topic.

What really does the Afganistan people want and does it makes sense to us?

Fiscal responsibility as well as National Security must be TOP PRIORITY for us.

terry,va   November 12th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

More delaying tactics by Obummie the spineless one. Karzai was president when he was running for office, was president when he made his strategy known in March. He knew what type of leader he is all along. He is looking for any excuse to cut and run to keep his voting base.

A. Smith   November 12th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

President Karzi knows the moment American troops pull out of Afghanistan, his Presidential role and residency in Afghanistan is over.

Its likely that President Karzi is working in the background to insure that American taxpayers pay for his luxurious exile for the rest of his life.

Some booking agency's should run on where Karzi is going to relocate at.

Paris, Bora-Bora, Hawaii, or the American mainland?

You helped the CIA flood Russia with cheap heroin President Karzi, the CIA will see to it that you are handsomely paid by American taxpayers for the rest of your life.

A. Smith
Oregon

Marie Laveaux   November 12th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Good to see the President is carefully evualuating every aspect of the war and how to proceed. This is the mark of a true leader. His methodical and metciculous review of every detail may frustate some, but in the long haul, it will have been time well spent.

Vets4Obama   November 12th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

It is paramount that Obama take all information and suggestions into consideration before making this decision. He is doing the right thing by hearing both sides. For those that complain and cite the current general in charge wanting more troops, the guy in their previously that had been there longer suggests NOT sending more troops.

It's convenient to be ignorant, and only prop up the guy that supports your desire to send more of our sons and daughters to die. But our President is in the business of being extremely cautious with the lives of our american fighting men and women. Unlike the repubilcan critics, he actually CARES whether our soldiers are killed senselessly and with out proper thought.

Beyond Absurd   November 12th, 2009 1:06 pm ET

- One million dollars per year for each US soldier sent to Afghanistan.
- An inhospitable terrain that is impossible to control.
- A nation in disarray fraught with corruption and almost completely lacking in infrastructure and stable government (them, not us).
- A population unwilling to fight for its own freedom from religious fanatics.
- Incalculable human cost to our military and their families from getting involved in another Vietnam type,unwinnable war.
Other than an opportunity to quench the blood lust of chicken hawks and keep some cash flowing to defense contractors, what is in this for America?

BobR   November 12th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

Obama seems to be putting his community-organizer skills to good use. By having meeting after meeting, he gets to put off actually doing anything.

Death Assurance Companies   November 12th, 2009 12:58 pm ET

The sword makers will lose money,wa wa wa.

good things are coming---S Callahan   November 12th, 2009 12:47 pm ET

I'm glad he is being sensible and seeking wisdom before acting..this has to be done right, for the benifit of our citizens, and for the benifit of the honest citizens of Afghanistan.

Good Good   November 12th, 2009 12:45 pm ET

Good Good Afghan doesn't want any more US Troops.

Why die in Afghanistan?

Why burn out America for a War with no purpose?

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