November 13, 2009
Posted: November 13th, 2009 11:53 AM ET

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Inglis said 'hard-right' conservatives have told him that they are willing to let people who don't have health insurance 'die on the steps of the hospital'.
Inglis said 'hard-right' conservatives have told him that they are willing to let people who don't have health insurance 'die on the steps of the hospital'.

(CNN) – A Republican congressman with a reputation for frustrating members of his own party is now saying he's exasperated with the "hard right" element of the GOP.

South Carolina Rep. Bob Inglis, who is facing a primary challenge from four Republicans, told the Greenville News on Thursday that the Reagan coalition of social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and moderate Democrats is "running on fumes." He described the struggle now going on within the Republican party as one between the "religious right" and the "hard right," and said he can't identify with the latter.

"I'm concerned about abortion," Inglis told the paper. "It's very much a concern to me. The hard right really doesn't care about abortion. They just want you, government, out of their pocketbook, by golly."

According to the paper, Inglis said "hard-right" conservatives have told him that they are willing to let people who don't have health insurance "die on the steps of the hospital" to make a point about the problem of "free riders."

"As a religious right guy, I'm thinking there was a guy named Jesus who had some things to say about these kinds of concepts," Inglis added. "And I don't want to live in a society that lets a few test cases die on the steps of the hospital. I can't go there."

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Truth-Bomb Thrower   November 13th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

And CNN, who exactly are these "hard-right conservatives?" You may notice there were no names mentioned. Nice journalism.......nice bias.

To bad you never post stories about the "hard-left liberals"........oh, that's right. You do. You just call them "moderates."

TB   November 13th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

"Republicans have proposed several ideas that would actually reduce health care costs (tort reform, open competition across state lines, et"

The money spent on things you think would be recouped by tort reform is 1/2 of 1% of all $$ spent on health care. It's a decoy. The most waste is in
the tons of paperwork, hospital infections, and fraud. The $$ lost in 1 year would pay for 10 years of the proposed bill. But guess what: even if the Dems put all the Rep ideas in the bill the Reps still wouldn't vote for it. They'd find some trumped up excuse not to. Health insurance is the only business that sets out to get rid of you once you need what you've been paying for. I'm baffled why people worry about the gov't when in insurance employee can pretty much sentence you to death with a pen. Switzerland and Japan have universal coverage and no govt involvement. Why can't we? Try asking that to a douchebagger.....see the look you get.

jj123   November 13th, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Zepat November 13th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

One writer wrote that Republicans are just as concerned with health care reform as are Democrats. That is simply not true, judging by the performance of elected Republicans. They have not come up with their own ideas, they have just said no to reform. They are not helping the dire situation.
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They have actually come up with ideas but Pelosi was behind closed doors "crafting" this impending disaster. If it is going to cost that much money how come about 7% of Americans wont be covered. Also, if the bill was that good there would have been a bigger margin on the vote, they couldnt even get all the Democrats.

jj123   November 13th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

James Michael Roberson November 13th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Mr Inglis is right the republican party is shifting to the far right of the political spectrum and these people only care about power and themselves. God help us if they ever regain control congress.
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Just as Pelosi has pushed the Dems in congress to the far left.

jj123   November 13th, 2009 4:25 pm ET

Why is this a huge story, maybe because he admitted he doesnt like the far right. There are plenty of Democrats that dont like the far left.

TB   November 13th, 2009 4:23 pm ET

"How many abortions did the RNC allowed in the past 18 years that Abortions were available to ALL their employees? Anyone care to answer"

As many as they needed. The sanctimonious prolifer pols only want to stop other people from getting abortions, who in their minds, don't have a proper reason. But when they "need" one, they rush down to the clinic..in another country. That's why they opted in to the coverage.

Zion   November 13th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

Isn't it funny how Republicans knew that our healthcare system needed reforming, but yet they didn't do it. And they'll be darned if anyone else will either.

TCM   November 13th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

Funny, CNN never puts up articles about how the blue dog democrats are frustrated with the liberal loons in their party....

Mark   November 13th, 2009 4:16 pm ET

"Republicans have proposed several ideas that would actually reduce health care costs (tort reform, open competition across state lines, etc.)"

So could someone explain to me how state tort laws work and how much on average it cost a person to sue a doctor, hospital or corporation (each of these please).

Mark   November 13th, 2009 4:11 pm ET

"Republicans have proposed several ideas that would actually reduce health care costs (tort reform, open competition across state lines, etc.)"
So is the type of 'tort reform' you talk about the type that will restrict access to the courts for those at the bottom of the income ladder.

So you have a cap of let's say 250,000 for pain and suffering. The wage earner makes 40,000 a year and is ten years from retirement. The wage earner is killed by a doctor addicted to drugs and because of this kills the wage earner. Now lets say the total amount this wage earner can recover is 750,000 of which the attorney can only recover 225,000. What will is cost the attorney to take this to court to not only recover this cost but the other two previous cases that were lost because of slot machine justice.

Now as a wage earner you are making 125,000 this becomes an easy decision for the attorney. Is this how it all works because if it is not please explain.

Mr. Bob   November 13th, 2009 4:05 pm ET

Sadly, if he cares anything about his political future in the GOP, he'll probably be apologizing to Rush tomorrow.

Allen   November 13th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

"hard-right" conservatives have told him that they are willing to let people who don't have health insurance "die on the steps of the hospital"

Didn't Representative Grayson already tell us this? I guess he was right.

I would just like to know the exact point at which republicans forget to be Christians? I think they have a chemical imbalance in their peabrains.

JonDie   November 13th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

"As a religious right guy, I'm thinking there was a guy named Jesus who had some things to say about these kinds of concepts," Inglis added. "And I don't want to live in a society that lets a few test cases die on the steps of the hospital. I can't go there."

If Inglis want to be continue to serve his party, he needs to abandon his conscience.

You cannot serve GOD and serve the GOP. The two are mutually-exclusive ideals.

Mark S.   November 13th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

a man with a conscience.... he'll be voted out in the primaries by the wingnuts..... its been nice knowing you.....

Reaganomics Leads To Feudalism   November 13th, 2009 3:50 pm ET

Thank you, Rep. Inglis, for coming out and saying what most of us already know about "hard right" conservatives.

It's good to hear a Republican call these scrooges out for the greedy, selfish, self-centered, "I got mine, and I don't give a rat's behind about anybody else" PIGS that they really are.

D. Tree   November 13th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

The GOP is going to keep losing elections, unless it cuts those far-right loonies loose. The bigotry and conspiracy theories are for the fringe, not for any normal voters.

JimZ   November 13th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

Judging from the comments submitted here and elsewhere, it is clear there is nothing Christian involved with being a neocon.

No Suprise   November 13th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

Guess Grayson wasn't that far off from his statement after all. Now even a Republican is saying that his own party told him just that.

In the end what it comes down to is this. Both sides democrats and Republicans as it stands are completely and utterly screwed up because their extreme elements have essentially been running rough shod over any and all moderates in their parties for the last two decades. With each new president these idiots from both sides ramp up the partisan ship even higher then it was before and then depending on whether its the majority or the minority become completely and utterly blind to anything else and simple stir the pot and increase partisanship in the general populace. Its time for the radicals in both parties to stop getting news time and be brought down several pegs.

Brook E. Mantia   November 13th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

Anyone who follows Jesus would not involve themself in anything as worldly and corrupt as government or politics, period. You cannot serve 2 masters. They are ALL hypocrites. They use religion the same way terrorists do: to control and dominate others.

Richard   November 13th, 2009 3:33 pm ET

Hadelaide, you said that each one who has an abortion or sins for that matter will answer for him/herself. So, you want the good congressman to vote for a bill that violates his own sense of ethics. Why not pass a law that doesn't outlaw theft, murder, drugs, etc... and everyone will answer for themselves and their actions when they die and go to heaven...which would be much earlier in a lawless society. Your argument has holes in it because it doesn't hold much water.

Retired Army in San Antonio   November 13th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

Inglis said 'hard-right' conservatives have told him that they -- are willing to let people who don't have health insurance 'die -- on the steps of the hospital'.

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Yep......as long as they die QUICKLY ;-) !

It's the 'Hard Right Republican Way' :-) .

Prodigal   November 13th, 2009 3:18 pm ET

None of the Republican ideas would save as much money as the Democratic plan would. The GOP plans are all about pumping up the profit margin of the insurance industry, with nothing that would actually improve health care.

Tom in Millstadt   November 13th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

"Hard right conservatives" Now there is your real death panel.

evman   November 13th, 2009 3:16 pm ET

The Republicans can learn a thing or two about "sense of decency" from Mr. Inglis. They must think they know better than Jesus how people should be treated. Obviously they don't and are seriously lacking any moral turpitude. I guess the payments these people take from the lobbyists and the insurance industry is enough to buy them off !!! No shame, no conscious, no ideas, PARTY of NO !!!

sonny chapman   November 13th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

Lots of things that "that guy Jesus" said runs contrary to Conservative principles.

panem et circensus   November 13th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Here's a novel idea for you liberals – if you want to provide affordable insurance to everyone who wants it while keeping those ugly capitolist insurance companies out of your health care decisions, then set up your own non-profit and offer it!

You keep claiming that "competition" will drive down the costs and that it will pay for itself. Put George Soros money where your mouth is and do it.

tacuache   November 13th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Did you say South Carolina?!? A reasonable man from S.C. who's also a Republican? Will wonders never cease?

Independent   November 13th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

OMG This is the same guy who voted against the health reform bill....People educate yourself!!!

I know... right!   November 13th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

IT's interesting that many of you have taken what Inglis said at face value and just happily believe him because he's saying something you want to hear. Had this article been about his religious views against abortion you wouldn't believe a word this man says. You would redicule him and spew the all-too-common liberal hate agenda against anything that doesn't coincide with your narrow view of life.

But since he's speaking against Republicans... you just LOVE him!! Did you stop to think he might be a disgruntled Arlen Spectre type who know's he's gonna lose in the primary? Of course he's going to say things like this to save his skin.

Nc   November 13th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

The right wing nuts want their grandma to get medicare to live but to hell with everyone else right. What a bunch of unamerican losers.

duke   November 13th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

the taliban wing of the republican party is showing its hatred of sick people just to make a point.i am so glad my dad had the sense to make me a good democrat.

Independent   November 13th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

I be there to vote for him

jorge   November 13th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

I don't understand commenters like "socialismbad"...how many times do you have to be told that you can keep your healthcare the way it is before you realise that you can keep your healthcare the way it is before you realise that you can keep your healthcare the way it is before you realise that you can keep your healthcare the way it is before you realise that you can keep your healthcare the way it is even with a public option? ...is that enough maybe? Are you getting it yet?

Minnesotan   November 13th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

@SocialismBad----–

"Across State lines" will lead to people with health issues having to migrate to other regions of our country depending on which States have specialized care for their conditions.

"Tort Reform" has been thoroughly debunked as only a fraction of a percent in any cost benefits and, even at that, that the cost benefit would not necessarily go towards reducing health insurance premiums.

So, those are two ideas the GOP have proposed... what else ya got? Cuz it seems to me, they've had an awful long time to fix this broken system... actually they had 6 years of total domination to fix this problem during Bush and the GOP refused to address it.

Now the Dems are in control and they aren't ignoring this huge problem and are addressing it and the "party of no" has not really proposed any new ideas to help. In fact, they have gone on a crusade to stop any real reform. So, they've done the opposite.

And I wonder why the media would completely distort and manipulate a story that came from the right wing of the GOP in order to make the GOP look bad when it came out of one of a GOP rep's mouth?

Go back to your tea-party and Orly Tates where you belong.

C. Farrell, Houston, Tx   November 13th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

I'm tired of people using religion to justify everything and I'll bet you 90% of them have never read the Bible in it's entirety, they are what I call Sunday morning Christians. No wonder we are seeing more and more people leaving the Church because of the conflict and misinterputation of what God truly wants for all of us.

Dennis   November 13th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

Dear Four and the Door,

So Republicans really really want Healthcare Reform? That is why during the past 8 years what they had every opportunity to make it a priority and make it happen what did they do?

They chose to ignore it because it would hurt their corporate buddies.

What did they do instead?

Started wars to help their defense contractor buddies and their oil company buddies.

Do you really think they care about you? No, just your money so they can continue to bail out their Wall Street buddies, so they can keep their HUGE bonuses.

Kevin Collins   November 13th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Bravo to this guy for calling out those hypocritical hard-right wingers who unbibically favor their fellow men and women needlessly die for lack of affordable health-care coverage. Gandhi had it quite right when he said, "I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians; they are so unlike your Christ."

g   November 13th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

he,s right a lot of these republicans pray to jesus on sunday but walk with the devil the rest of the week

ConcernedCitizen   November 13th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

One fact that keeps being omitted when the discussion is the cost of the health care reform bill passed by the Democrats this last week is the point that there will actually be money coming IN to the program. It isn't just an outlay of expenses (like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan), it is funded by coverage premiums paid by all participants. In truth, after the initial cost of setting up the program it will be economically self-sufficient.

fools and their freedoms are soon parted   November 13th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

"RethugliKlans " if you look in your history books, the party running the Klan and running on a Klan platform have been democrats...also the democrats fought in the civil war on the pro slavery side....

Dennis   November 13th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

Dear Me,

You are absolutely right on in your thinking. Ideally society would take care of their own through the various organizations that you mentioned.

Unfortunately, not all of these organizations can cover all the circumstances and many deserving and needy people fall through the crack.

Worse yet, many Christians who rant about it's not the Government's job are the last to lift a finger to help anyone in real need. So if they are not willing to do it, who does it fall to?

Ken   November 13th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

@SocialismBad

Show me where it says that people without insurance will be put in prison. You are a either a liar or willfully ignorant. You would not be put in prison. You would however be fined/taxed for the cost of coverage.

See folks, SocialismBad is just another teabagger who engages in half truths and flat out lies to push their agenda.

usualone   November 13th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

Where are there more thoughtful Repulicans like this guy? He is a brave man. I hope it is contagious.

good things are coming---S Callahan   November 13th, 2009 2:11 pm ET

I am with him on this....I don't like the government running my life...but I certainly know I have a responsiblity to my fellow man....and do believe we all have a moral obligation to give medical care to everyone. The gifts the medical community hold are not their own, they were given to them, and could be removed in an instant (ask any brain injured person)...just with any skill..you have to give back.
There has been a dark curtain on this country for a long time, and it is nearly open now...keep pulling cause it's coming down soon. The only part to really figure out is ..is it public option or coops...and a rate that is afforadable to all, and sustainable.

Bill   November 13th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

Wow – a GOP politician who is decent human being. I'm amazed.

Sam   November 13th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

So glad someone has spoken about the Republican hypocrisy: pro-life and then let the individual die. There are 44,000 who die each year without health care, but apparently this is OK. Get rid of this poison pill.

And on the comment about why not deal with tort reform – CBO says this would reduce cost about 0.4% – and insurance across state lines – the GOP proposal says that all protective state regulations would be removed and freedom given to the insurance companies. Think you can trust the insurance companies to do the right thing?

Ken   November 13th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

I see that the critics can't actually address anything specific to the health care reform bill. All they can do is scream about death panels, government takeover, or that somehow they will loose their freedoms.

Why do you folks on the right alway resort to fear mongering and hyperbole instead of having a civil discussion?

Bob Inglis is First Class Guy   November 13th, 2009 2:02 pm ET

1. I've met Bob Inglis once, talked to him for a few minutes. It was the first time in my entire life as a South Carolinian that I thought wow, this Republican Upstater isn't entirely nuts.

2. South Carolina is one of the leading teabag nutjob states. It is also one of the leading conservative Christian states. If one thinks that the two are compatible go to a bookshelf, find a bible, see the opinion of the rich in the book. Try to pass a camel through the eye of a needle.

3. Jesus was about free-will, but your also loopy if you think that at the end of everything, there isn't this form of sanction. The purpose of free will is to allow someone to choose the righteous path – it is not an end, it is a means.

4. The third point is entirely unrelated to taxes. They are the price one pays to live in society. If you don't like it – there are 200 odd other countries in the world. Assuming you make enough money to actually complain about taxes – go live somewhere else. They are taking your money, not your freedom. If you think the difference is semantic – than neither I, nor God, nor anyone can help you.

B   November 13th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

He is wasting his time, they don’t get it, and never will.

Fred   November 13th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

Sarah Palin: modern day cultist.

speculator   November 13th, 2009 1:57 pm ET

"Liberal4Obama"...what the hell does that have to do with anything? You ever had an abortion?

speculator   November 13th, 2009 1:55 pm ET

Reformed Republican...just stop. You are not a Republican, everyone knows that. You are Dem trying to masquerade as a republican so everybody thinks republicans are crossing over....well, nope. Quit making stupid posts.

MikeH   November 13th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

Four and the Door, you are a revolting coward. You completely avoided what the man said, Hard Right Republicans like yourself would let Americans die on the steps of the hospital.

People like you don't even deserve to live in my America, why don't you go to Iran, I'm sure they'll let you do something useful there since you're so good at spewing hate about America.

hemmmark   November 13th, 2009 1:53 pm ET

I was mistaken.There are no conservatives or republicans here. All thats left is selfish, money minded people who take the cover of a party called GOP.

Jim   November 13th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

I'm happy to see some diversity in the Republican party, though Mr. Inglis is obviously being attacked for disagreeing with everything the nuts in his party believe. I have always felt that Jesus commissioned us to care for our neighbors and I don't recall him saying anything about taxes and big government.

speculator   November 13th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

Hey "Victim", what "wingnuts" are you talking about? Left or right, or both? Looks to me like both sides eat their young.

And katiec...where isd the integrity in the "hard left"? If you wish to compare apples to apples, then compare fringes to fringes.

John, Brooklyn, NY   November 13th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

As if South Carolina couldn't politically marginalize itself even further from the political mainstream of the US. First, they have a missing-in-action governor (who they STILL haven't impeached yet), then a knuckle-dragging redneck calling the president a liar on the floor of Congress....now they have a battle royale among themselves to see just who can demonstrate that they, in fact, are more narrow-minded than the others in the race.

We blew it during the Civil War. We ALL would have been better off had we just let them GO!

Gusto2   November 13th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

Bob Inglis will surely face opposition from his party in this coming election. Many moderate republicans want to tell the truth and support health care reform, but, unfortunately the republican party is just like "Hitler's brown shirts", they are more loyal to the party than to the country and the citizens. These guys just want to get back in power at any cost because it brings lots of money from corporate America into their pocket book. Plain and simple, they never supported the middle class working american, they always supported corporate America and then during the elections they will go out and find sosme "Joe" and use him has their cause. After the election they will drop the "Joe" like a hot tamale. Ask all the Joe six pack, Plumber, Mechanic, Joe the Red Neck, etc.

Absalom   November 13th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

Here's the conservatives worship : Money .
Who's god to you guys? Or are you to busy counting your beans?
Ka Ching Ka Ching, is that the sound your soul makes
as it's burning in hell Mr/Mrs John $ conservative?

By the way I heard El Rushbo lost all that fat on his fat ass
by using crack cocaine, is there any oxy cotton truth to this?

NVa Native   November 13th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

Looks like we have another target for tea-baggers and Fox followers. We'll see what Limpbaugh, Sara, insHanity, and the Beckler have to throw at him, and from the Caka-lackeys too?
I'm sure the Dems hope the tea-baggers take him out before he infects the rest of the Repubs with rational thought. Don't want the Repubs sounding rational!

Jc Ohio   November 13th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

Hey talk about getting facts straight ....
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The liberals will guarantee people have healthcare IN PRISON when they don't buy it and are jailed. After all, it's just fair according to Pelosi. Much better to die in jail right?"

Ummm ... prisoners have had access to health care for decades.

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Republicans have proposed several ideas that would actually reduce health care costs (tort reform, open competition across state lines, etc.)"

Actually they haven't proposed anything solid, just ideas that amount to saying it will reduce cost but with no basis – no plan of action – course or desired results.
They might as well demand chocolate cows so that they have naturally made chocolate milk.

There are no laws which prohibit the sale of health insurance across state lines. And what would that solve actually, an MRI in Indiana cost less than it does in California ... so who do you expect to take the hit for the difference?
Tort reform ... starts with health care, then down the road what else do we loose the right to sue for?
In addition, your answer to less Federal Gov is to have the Federal Gov decide how much a malpractice claim is worth or if its an actual claim at all ... isn't that a power of the States.

Oh yes less Fed ... you want the Fed to make all health care providers accept direct payment from all insurers.
And all insurers must equally treat all health care providers as "In-Network" ... irregardless.

Yes those GOP plans are the answer to less government control ...

They just want all the benefits of Universal Health Care ...

Mary   November 13th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

Since when did Jesus say that government should steal your money and give it to somebody else?

Henry Miller, Libertarian   November 13th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

The "religious right" is certainly entitled to its superstitious nonsense, but they're not entitled to impose it on the rest of us. Abortion isn't a "social" issue, it's a private issue to the woman involved and anyone else whose opinion she values–and it certainly isn't the prerogative of some guy in Washington to stick his nose into what's a private matter.

As a "religious right" guy, Congressman Inglis has every right to allow his own philosophies to be influenced by Christianity, but he has to keep in mind that for many of us, Christianity is just another collection of myths no more to be taken seriously than those of the ancient Greeks, Romans, or Norse. To attempt to base public policy on any of those myths would be laughable except for the social discord such unthinking fanaticism brings.

Jeff   November 13th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

I'm almost with this guy, however, what would Jesus say about a woman who has been raped, a victim of incest, or will die giving birth being FORCED to have the baby?...Being FORCED to relinquish control of HER BODY? I think the answer is perfectly clear...you are forgiven. Here are our demands...we want control of our bodies...decisions will now be ours. You will do what looks good to you on paper...we will do what we must...RECLAMATION !!!

Mary   November 13th, 2009 1:08 pm ET

Since when did Jesus say that government should steal your money in order to give it to somebody else?

Rush has given his marching orders   November 13th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

You fools, quit letting Rush boss you around. No one is going to control your health care decisions. You get to pick your doctor, there are no pre-existing conditions clauses, and more people are covered. And to those of you who think it will "bankrupt" the country, I say go take an economics course. This bill will bring costs down for everyone. Why is it that America, the greatest country on earth, will settle for second rate healthcare. We should have the best, most efficient, and cheapest healthcare in the world. Or maybe most of you would rather let people die on the hospital steps because they don't have coverage? And you call yourselves christians?

Mary   November 13th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

Since when did Jesus say that government should steal some people's money in order to give it to somebody else?

DJ   November 13th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

Yes the GOP will get the national base to get rid of him. It is true that America is the only world economic power to have such an inhumane healthcare system. Not only that but there is extreme corruption among both the medical facilities to upsell and price-gouge consumers along with the insurance industry that intentionally deceives people and hides behind the fine print on coverage terms to jack up their profits.

katiec   November 13th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

The party of NOthings plan was just that, nothing.
It ensured very few, fell back on their old, worn out tax cuts that would not be of benefit for anyone, had no reform, stipulations or oversight for the insurance companies (are we surprised by that?) and wanted insurance across state lines which is irresponsible as a few big insurance companies control health insurance and are most certainly not going to negoiate on our behalf.
Their plan was ridiculous as are their actions in trying to destroy our country. They are an embarressment as to what our politifal system is supposed to be.

Marty, Grand Rapids MI   November 13th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

Wow, I can't handle either (religious right or libertarians). Of the two I would pick libertarians. They are a little less hypocritical and could be a little more pragmatic. As far as I'm concerned, God and politics doesn't mix very well (one taints the other).

Jim Gray   November 13th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

Jesus never advocated for goverment run health care – come on! The bottom line is that we the people care only about ourselves as individuals...this philosophy does not reside in one party alone – until we are willing to work together to solve the problems of today – we continue to punish the generations of tomorrow – we have to get over ourselves and our own anger issues and work together – but when I look at history I doubt that we will be accomplishing that any time soon...

al   November 13th, 2009 12:59 pm ET

We need more people in our government who have some common sense and don't just vote the way they're told. We elect people to represent us as citizens, not a political party. Too many on both sides don't care about the citizens, but the republicans are the worst. They truly just don't care about the people. Look at the conservative people, white, old, and rich.

Liberals are hypocrites   November 13th, 2009 12:59 pm ET

One more note: Studies show that conservatives donate MUCH MORE $ to charity than liberals.

Case in point: Obama donated 1.6% of his income to charity (until election year: 6.4%) and Biden donates $300 worth of used clothes each year. They want everyone to be forced to pay so they don't feel guilty.

danel   November 13th, 2009 12:59 pm ET

The GOP had a chance for 8 years to change healthcare. What did they do? Invade Iraq, wage war in Afghanistan. They complain about the cost of healthcare but not complaining about the cost of wars. Any wonder where their priorities?

Nadia   November 13th, 2009 12:58 pm ET

Put up or shut up!!!

Name names!!! Typical when u r loosing to say something like that!!!

Sounds just like that nut Congressman fr Orlando!!

Monster Zero   November 13th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

The left still doesn't get it, no one is excluded from purchasing healthcare. It is readily available to purchase, any type you wish to purchase with YOUR own money. 45,000 people do not die each year because they don't have health insurance, they die because they are sick. I think all those liberals that want FREE healthcare should donate their own money to provide insurance policies for those 45,000 sick people. It would be cheaper than what these Socialists are pushing down our throats, we are bankrupt, we are in a major recession preparing to enter the second dip and the elitists can do nothing but spend. Obama is taking care of himself for 2012, it will be a crushing defeat for the dumbocraps!

Jack Fl   November 13th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

Saw a show on Frontline about healthcare. Very interesting howother coutriesprovde healthcare for their citizens. Wonder how many of our leaders looked at these working models before writing this latest boondogle bill?

Happy Days Are Here Again   November 13th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

As a Democrat, I wouldn't change a thing. Let the GOPers eat their own–who cares? They have been taken over by a man-eating-tin-foil- wearing, deather-birther-rabid-right–wing-mongrel. All led by an illiterate country bumpkin–Sarah Palin. LOL, I'm lovin' it.

Happy days are here again!

LacrosseDad   November 13th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

Waterloo 'Arlen' Inglis.

Jason   November 13th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

Also, all you people screaming hate about reform and socialism better not take Medicare when you get older. That would be hypocracy.

FL   November 13th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

Half the people commenting here obviously either didn't read the article or didn't comprehend what they read. No surprise there.

He made a distinction between the "religious right" – people who do have compassion along with their fiscal policy beliefs, as opposed to what he called the "hard right" – people who apparently are not religious and vote just on fiscal policy.

I've never heard anyone say to let people die on the hospital steps, so I don't know where he found those people.

Something liberals don't seem to understand is that giving someone a hand up is different than giving someone a hand out. Helping people get back on their feet and take responsibility for themselves saves their dignity and gives them a way to support themselves. Giving hand outs strips people of their self respect and traps them in a system of dependence on the gov't. The current system of social services is broken, abused and costly, but rather than focusing on fixing it, the Democrats want to add more messed up policy and more debt to the country.

Last I checked we have health departments where people can go for free and/or very reduced cost medical care. We have medicaid for low income families, which is a mess, but still a path to health care for those in need. Public hospitals are required by law to treat anyone that comes in to the ER, even if they can't pay or are uninsured. Our tax dollars already pay for that. It's messy and not perfect, so let's focus on fixing that stuff before we go messing up the entire health care system in the US.

Why don't people look at what the gov't has already messed up and flee from wanting the gov't to take over one more thing? Anyone who trusts the politicians to fix healthcare is crazy!

Liberal Astroturf   November 13th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

HEY IDIOTS–people on the right don't want people to die because they don't have insurance. They just have a different idea of how to handle the problem.

If you have commented on "wackos", "hard right", "true Christians", or "rethugucans", "they don't care", "greed", then you are brainless and a main component of the divide in America. (Luckily, I think that most are paid bloggers–seen the pattern over the past years)

The healthcare overhaul is not a real solution, it doesn't solve the problems and it is unsustainable (those that want the government overhaul is only 34% vs 56% against). Fix the problems one at a time. Test them in different areas and if they work, move forward.

Jason   November 13th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

As someone who used to be a moderate republican, he is right. Jesus said, "what you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me." So, that is an invitation to help the homeless, feed the hungry, etc. Don't let them die to set an example. Jesus teaches more about humbling yourself and helping the less fortunate than anything. That is why I am always so amazed that Republicans are anti-reform. Make sure the baby is born, but if Mom and Dad don't have health insurance, then its not our fault the baby won't get proper care and get sick. As a moderate I pray for more moderate politicians on both sides.

Change_Has_Begun   November 13th, 2009 12:47 pm ET

not surprised...the uneducated right wing wackos don't know any better...but sorry OBAMA is president and no one will die at the footsteps of any hospital...

Kate in San Diego   November 13th, 2009 12:46 pm ET

Lovely, just lovely. I thought I had heard everything, but I never thought they would actually admit they do not care who dies because all that matters is what is in one's own wallet. This is especially strange because these people are in a big hurry to tell the rest of us how "Christian" they are. What a joke! Since when does Christianity stand for the proposition your neighbor can go to hell in a handbasket for all you care? Don't we have any responsibility to each other as human beings? These fundamentalists are very mean people who are but one step away from becoming a Christian taliban.

Four and The Door   November 13th, 2009 12:45 pm ET

If Democrats were serious about health care reform they would come up with something that made sense for America. They have not and so they will not do anything except waste our time.

SocialismBad   November 13th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

Republicans have proposed several ideas that would actually reduce health care costs (tort reform, open competition across state lines, etc.) which is what healthcare reform was SUPPOSED to be about. Democrats just want to control EVERYBODYS healthcare and thus their lives and liberty with another massive government program. STAY OUT OF MY HEALTH CARE DECISIONS AND OPTIONS!

Mike in SA   November 13th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

This bill and it's costs will damage our economy. When our economy suffers, so do millions upon millions of people globally...just ask the people in aid groups. People all over the world starve when OUR economy suffers. I honestly would love to see real health care reform, but what is being proposed is bloated and will create massive deficits which will slow the economy in the future. The net effect of the long term economic drag from this will be that our working poor will have insurance but will not be able to put food in their pantry. Great trade, huh? That goes for both here and world wide.

It's not about being mean or being hateful. It's about realistically looking ahead and seeing the consequences of this action...and being truthful about it unlike the ruling elite.

fools and their freedoms are soon parted   November 13th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

Aw Ingilis...you want to be known by the liberals as a maverick don't you? I am always suspicious when a person states Reagan conservatives are running out of fumes or some other derogatory remark.... as countless "mavericks" in the past the liberals will use you until you serve no useful purpose, then they will happily chuck you under the bus.

Bob in Pa   November 13th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

I got news for you pal, it isn't just the far right that wants you out of their pocketbooks. Us middle of the road atheists are right there along side them.

carlos, THAT one   November 13th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Mr. Inglis has my $200.00 to his campaign.....and I am a true blue LIBERAL.......chubby..you are so wrong, you believe all thelies they throw at you, pathetic jerk

Reformed Republican   November 13th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

FINALLY!

A GOP'er from South Carolina that emits a tiny spark of compassion for his fellow Americans.

And his fellow rethuglican politicians on the insurance company payroll want to lynch the guy for telling their "secrets". To bad anybody with even a casual understanding of what the right-wing obstructionists are doing already knew that their health insurance plan is "Don't get sick and if you do, die quickly".

Still, it's good to see someone stand up and admit the cold truth behind the political right in public...

Bob   November 13th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Wow I can't get over some of you who say this isn't true.
How the hell do any of you know that?
There is nothing conservative about the Republican Party
Republicans like Regan, Isenhower, cooledge, Ford.
These are the republicans that I know.
The conservatives that claim they are, are way, way, way out on the fring.
Most of you talk like members of the John Brich society.

Jamie   November 13th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

So did Republicans ever have any other strategy for health care? I don't think so...

JS007   November 13th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

"A few test cases"? Try 45,000 people each year.

SF Values   November 13th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

His quote starts "as a religious right guy" and he should stop there. Religion has no place in politics. It's funny how we criticize the middle east for their theocracies but the christians are trying to do the same thing here in America but to them, it's ok because they're touting christianity and not islam. And Americans wonder why the muslim world hates us...these US politicians are trying to start the crusades all over again!

Liberal4Obama   November 13th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

How many abortions did the RNC allowed in the past 18 years that Abortions were available to ALL their employees? Anyone care to answer

Melissa   November 13th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

Its about time one of the Republicans showed they had a brain that they actually use. Its nice to see.

Marc   November 13th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Good for him, to see the extent of the parallel reality in which some far right wingers lives on just check the blog on President Obama's words about KSM... some of them 'forget' that the Supreme Court ruled that some sections of the United States Military Commissions Act of 2006 were clearly unconstitucional, and want that he is tried by said sections!
They might wish that it happens, but meanwhile in the real world the common guy Republican dude is awakening and realizing that he does not want his party to shrink into oblivion!

Zepat   November 13th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

One writer wrote that Republicans are just as concerned with health care reform as are Democrats. That is simply not true, judging by the performance of elected Republicans. They have not come up with their own ideas, they have just said no to reform. They are not helping the dire situation.

victim of republican greed   November 13th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

Maybe Inglis is trying to rise above the cesspool of the republican culture of corruption.

Michael   November 13th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

Finally, a Christian who talks and acts like a Christian.

Kate   November 13th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

Oh yeah a few years ago here where I live the hospital put a person that was in a wheelchair and couldn't walk out on the street, this person didn't have insurance so they told him he had to go to the hospital that took in people without insurance.......push him out side in the cold and didn't even call a taxi or try to find some one to transport this person to the other hospital.........needless to say the hospital was sued ....... so they do turn people way and leave them there to die on their steps........this peoson was just lucky that someone went by and took the time to ask this person what he was crying about........so this good person called the police and got him the ride he needed to get help

carlos, THAT one   November 13th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

to all the CONServatives and GOPhers, is this who you want to represent and govern you???

According to the paper, Inglis said "hard-right" conservatives have told him that they are willing to let people who don't have health insurance "die on the steps of the hospital" to make a point about the problem of "free riders."

Bunch of rotten criminals, amoral and evil.....

SocialismBad   November 13th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

The liberals will guarantee people have healthcare IN PRISON when they don't buy it and are jailed. After all, it's just fair according to Pelosi. Much better to die in jail right?

rob   November 13th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

abortion is a woman's issue . Why are old white men so worried about it. It's really time to get over it and move on.

Lou - Manchester, CT   November 13th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

Let hope we see more repesentatives like Mr. Inglis – maybe he can be one who will reach over to the Democrats to help out on certain issues.

Unless the hard right-wing Republicans give up their "no compromise" stand, there will be no bipartisanship d the Democrats will run roughshod over them. which is too bad – no one likes to see legislation passed by one one party.

victim of republican greed   November 13th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

A wingnut posted that the republicans want health reform to. What a joke! I am still laughing at the stupidity of the statement.

Jean, Indiana   November 13th, 2009 12:25 pm ET

Some one should explain to Inglis that there are Christians who are able to apply their Christian principles to governing for the betterment of all.

They would be called Democrats.

hadelaide   November 13th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

Inglis says "I can't go there". Yet he voted against the House bill even though the insane Stupak Amendment was included.

I believe I know the same man named Jesus who didn't talk out of both sides of his mouth. Imagine the story of the prostitute who claimed "5 husbands", and Jesus rightly told her that neither was her husband. He then faced the mob and said "ye that is without sin cast the first stone".

Abortion is much more than being portrayed by your fringe Inglis. Denying one health care because of a procedure called abortion is abominable. Leave the judgments to God. Jesus did not commission any man to be judge and advocate. He urged us to plant the seeds, and He will water and bring to fruition. Each one who has an abortion or sins for that matter will answer for him/herself.

Bob of Lompoc   November 13th, 2009 12:21 pm ET

Scary. One of the Republicans has struggled out of the muck, and is starting to make a little sense.

Too little, too late. I see today the RNC canceled insurance coverage for elective abortions. Do ya think this will help them with female voters ? By next Friday the number will be 15% of Americans call themselves Republicans. The Rs remind me of what happens when you drop a bowling ball – it falls to the floor and goes "Boom".

Goodbye Republicans, hello Congressman Paul and The Libertarians !

P. D.   November 13th, 2009 12:21 pm ET

Rep. Inglis and all the other Republicans started this whole 'Tea-Bag' craze. By allowing these wing-nuts control the debate, they shot themselves in the foot. When the Republicans thought they could score political points with these zealots, they let them seize control. Now it is hard to put the Genie in the bottle isn't it?

chelle   November 13th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

And so the implosion begins.....at some point moderate Republicans are going to have to look in the mirror and see if they like the reflection. Is this who you want to be? Is this how you want to be seen?

Four and The Door   November 13th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

Nobody in the Republican party wants to see people 'die on the steps of the hospital". This is as you can see a politician making an inflaming remark to do better in the primary. This is an irresponsible strategy on his part and I think it will work against him.

The fact is, Republicans want health care reform as much or more than Democrats do...they just don't want to make it more expensive in the process. That would just make it just another burden on the next generation and that's not what they need from us. The Republican health care reform reduces obvious inefficiencies in our health care system and in that way increases access for people who currently can't afford it.

BestProfitCompany = WAR   November 13th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

This rethuglican party is too big to... function. They should be split up, crazy right wing cowards on one side and crazy right wing religious zealots on the other. This party is self destructing and believe me... its a beautiful sight to see LOL!

victim of republican greed   November 13th, 2009 12:15 pm ET

Anyone who speaks out with common sense, against the wingnuts will pay for it in the election.

SocialismBad   November 13th, 2009 12:15 pm ET

So just where in America are people "dying on the steps of hospitals"? This story is a farce and another liberal smear tactic. Hospitals are required by law to treat those that go there and need emergency care. Inhteresting this garbage reporting appears on CNN during the health carte debate. Can you please stick to reporting relevant FACTS instead of trying to smear one side? Is that too much to ask for from "the most trusted news source"???

Anne   November 13th, 2009 12:15 pm ET

He's exactly right! Many of the hard right claim to be Christians – what a joke. I can't think of anything less WWJD than letting less fortunate people die so that the rich don't have to pay a little more in taxes.

susanj   November 13th, 2009 12:14 pm ET

The Republican Party whether hard right, religious right – whatever you want to call them – is a total disgrace to this country. Completely out of touch with what REAL Americans are facing every day. They sickened me – every single one of them makes me want to vomit.

Me   November 13th, 2009 12:14 pm ET

To use Jesus as a model, then, I think you should ask yourself a simple question: Would Jesus impose his will on others? The answer is clearly no. UH strips citizens of their liberty and imposes more government will on the people. Jesus was not about coercion, but rather free will. Society is supposed to help it's lowliest through charity work, contributions, and non-profit and spiritual organizations; not through the strong, tyrannical arm of a government with guns.

Francis Marion   November 13th, 2009 12:13 pm ET

Finally someone in South Carolina gets it.

he's exasperated with the "hard right" element of the GOP   November 13th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

oh oh

now you've done it

you will be in the cross hairs of O'Rielly, Rush, Hannity, Coultour et al

your speaking your mind and saying what you think has now cost you

your days are numbered

Amy Biviano   November 13th, 2009 12:11 pm ET

It's about time we saw a few Republicans standing up for moral issues rather than dodging them to score political points. I just hope Rep. Inglis will walk the talk and vote for this historic health care reform rather than allowing his fellow citizens to die to satisfy his party.

Sea.gem   November 13th, 2009 12:09 pm ET

...I don't believe that...because hos[pitals can't 'deny care' in an emergency...that is why many have gone bankrupt...the new reform bill would rather bankrupt hte entire counrty...address immigration then you can address those here wo want the free ride.

shirley-atl   November 13th, 2009 12:08 pm ET

What the Greedy Old Party needs to add to their "big tent" is more, honest commonsense types like Rep. Inglis, and get rid of all these radical leaders like Limbaugh, Beck, Cantor, Boehner, Bachman, Fox, Palin, Wilson, etc. I know that there has to be more rational people among them around, we just rarely hear from them. We need the two party system to survive, but certainly in a more civilized way than it currently is, particularly because of the right and their hate-filled voices. They no longer sound very pro America in my opinion.

victim of republican greed   November 13th, 2009 12:05 pm ET

Since the wingnuts are not much into our constitution, they should relocate in Honduras where not all people are created equal.

Janet   November 13th, 2009 12:04 pm ET

This is why I am a democrat and voted for Barack Obama

Dominican mama 4 Obama   November 13th, 2009 12:04 pm ET

conservatives have told him that they are willing to let people who don't have health insurance "die on the steps of the hospital" to make a point about the problem of "free riders."
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This is coming right out of the mouth of a GOPer, not one of it's critics. It is absolutely shameful, deplorable, how some of these hard-right cons can utter something like this to anyone. Apparently the congressman from Florida was not far off at all when he said that the GOP's answer to healthcare is: IF YOU'RE SICK, HURRY UP AND DIE

Cautionary kudos to Inglis for rebuking such ideology. I say cautionary kudos because RethugliKlans have a habit of retracting public statements when their Party directs them to do so. No matter the fact that the statement was truthful and needed to be made. So we will see how much traction Inglis has.

dALE   November 13th, 2009 12:03 pm ET

Religious Right, Hard Right? They're all wingnuts as far as I'm concearned and I haven't seen any of them actually follow what Jesus said.

Lissa   November 13th, 2009 12:03 pm ET

Of course they would let someone die to make a point about "free riders". That's their only point – that some other people aren't following the "rules" and should be punished. Republicans are fear-based children who rat out anyone who was tardy, turned the wrong way in line or didn't have their chair straight. But on the sly they are pinching people, cheating, stealing, and knocking people down on the playground. Their twisted absolutistic thinking is all about punishing perceived rule breakers, while they break the largest rules of all and hide it or lie about it. The good kids are just trying to learn and have a good day, but everyone in the school is having to spend all their time putting out the fires of the of the dysfunctional bullies and patching the wounds of their victims.

Examples: women, minorities, katrina victims, crime victims, the environment, developing nations, etc, etc.....

Ben in MO   November 13th, 2009 12:02 pm ET

Good for Bob Inglis.

Lee   November 13th, 2009 12:02 pm ET

Why does it not surprise me in the least that hard-right conservatives would gladly watch people die if it earned them a point on their debate? The lunatic fringe of the extreme right stopped even pretending that it cares about people a LONG time ago. The fact that now they will come right out and say it just shows how far their crazy has taken them!

Party Purity will never bring Political Power!   November 13th, 2009 12:02 pm ET

WWJD?

If the con "christians" are "living examples of Christ" then He is wiling to let all those living in poverty and unemployed, die just to make a point about "free loaders", "welfare queens", "wealth redistribution" blah, blah blah.

katiec   November 13th, 2009 12:01 pm ET

The problem is there is not much integrity in the hard right or the religious right. The religious right hide behind their Bibles while ignoring that lying, distorting, inciting hate, anger, division of our country, with a goal out to destroy our president, consequently
iour country are most definiutely not what a true Christian would
support or take part in,.
The hard right, although I see little difference, are out to destroy our
country and are on the verge of becoming our countries most dangerous domestic terrorists.
The party of NOthing has lost all credibility, all sight of what they were elected to do for the sake of big business, greed, party first and trying to win at any cost.

Nick   November 13th, 2009 12:01 pm ET

Thank you. Call them out for the people they are.

Robin   November 13th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Nobody should die on the steps of a hospital. However, we have laws in place that you get treated regardless.

I wish there was a way to do a poll to find out who does not have insurance, yet is able to get it from their employer or is able to afford a private premium. How many of these people who CHOOSE not to have healthcare drive luxury cars, have cell phones, computers, and every other toy in the world?

We need healthcare insurance reform, that is agreed. It should be available and affordable. It should not be for free.

James Michael Roberson   November 13th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Mr Inglis is right the republican party is shifting to the far right of the political spectrum and these people only care about power and themselves. God help us if they ever regain control congress.

chubby   November 13th, 2009 11:59 am ET

Inglis is just another RINO and hopefully he will be shown the road back to SC in 2010. I would be willing to bet any amount of money no hard right conservative ever told him they were willing to let people die on the steps of a hospital. That is the opinion of left wing loons who stand for abortions including partial birth abortions, they are the only ones willing to let people die who do not share their views.

Evan   November 13th, 2009 11:58 am ET

Good for him. He is entitled to his view just like the "hard right", "far left", "mushy middle", etc, etc.

Our country is a representational government which means if there are more "hard right" voters in his district they have a right to vote for whoever they think will best represent them.

Therefore, he should stick to his positions and let the voters decide. If he loses – he loses

George   November 13th, 2009 11:57 am ET

Keep fighting. Don't let the wackos destroy your party. You normal republicans better stand up before it's too late.

victim of republican greed   November 13th, 2009 11:57 am ET

Since the religious right does not care about those who die because they have been excluded from health insurance, it looks like Bob Inglis is toast. Apparently, wingnuts do not follow the teachings of Jesus.

Randy   November 13th, 2009 11:55 am ET

Hope he enjoyed his time, he is done.

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