November 15th, 2009
03:54 PM ET
4 years ago

Giuliani weighs on GOP unity, NY-23 race

(CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani strayed from the facts in discussing the discord within the Republican Party caused by the insurgent candidacy of Doug Hoffman, a Republican who chose to run on the Conservative Party ticket in the recent special election for New York’s 23rd congressional district.

Talking about the Bill Owens, the Democrat who won the special election, Giuliani erroneously said Owens had voted against the Democratically sponsored health care reform bill that recently passed in the House of Representatives.

Prior to Owens' win, Doug Hoffman’s candidacy, which was supported by prominent conservatives including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, exposed a growing rift in the Republican party between conservatives represented by Hoffman and moderates represented by New York Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava. After lagging in polls and fund raising and being the target of attacks from both conservatives and Democrats, Scozzafava abruptly decided to drop out of the race just days before Election Day. After receiving Scozzafava’s last minute endorsement, Bill Owens, a Democrat, won a seat occupied by Republicans for more than a century.

Giuliani told CNN Chief National Correspondent John King that the nascent GOP civil war sparked by the NY-23 race was “not a good precedent for the party.”

“That’s the way you can allow Democrats to win even if the public has turned against them on certain things. I think in that particular case, I know that district. That’s a district that is very concerned about Obama’s health care [plan].”

“You see the Democrat has voted against the Obama health care program. That’s a district where we could elect a Republican if we get our act together and let’s hope don’t repeat that too often because then we surely won’t be a majority party.”

Giuliani’s comment about Bill Owens’ vote on the House health care reform bill was in error. Owens voted in favor of the bill.


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  1. HJA

    Cue the singer........REAL MEN OF GENIUS....Heres to you Mister Don't Know What You're Talking About.......GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT RUUUUUDY!
    I need a beer.

    November 15, 2009 07:06 pm at 7:06 pm |
  2. Mickey

    Rudy should just shut his pie hole...he's just another GOP piece of crap.

    November 15, 2009 07:08 pm at 7:08 pm |
  3. Doc in Virginia

    This is the same nitwit, who against the better judgement of others and after the 1993 bombing attempts on the WTC, put the city's emergency control center INSIDE the WTC!
    He has no credibility when issuing his call on the trials of the 9-11 scum in NYC. If Bush had had the balls to bring these scum to trial and put them to death on his watch, perhaps he wouldnt be viewed as such a weakling when it came to believing in our Constitution and laws. If Bush had oredered trials in NYC, Giuliani would have sung his praises and sadi what a great idea to let the people of NYC have its justice and send these turds to the hell they deserve. But since Obama's AG wants to do this, it is irresponsible.
    He is a two faced loser that cant handle his own life dramas let alone commenting on others. No wonder he garnished less than 1% of votes in the 2008 primaries. No credibility. Party Hack. No values. But, he does look okay in drag. Not many guys can pull that off.

    November 15, 2009 07:13 pm at 7:13 pm |
  4. Paul

    Rudy Giuliani is smoking dope. Palin is a liar, cheat and quitter. If he thinks that is "great for the GOP", he confirms that the GOP is a dead party.

    November 15, 2009 07:25 pm at 7:25 pm |
  5. Danny

    Rudys a real genius folks – heed his words...he's the brain surgeon that put the communications center back into the WTC after the first bombing. A real genius. And a liar to boot – you honestly believe he "erroneously" stated that Owens voted against health care reform – yeah, it was about as "erroneous" as Hannity showing old video to inflate ths size of the crowds at bachmanns hatefest part II. These folks are hacks, and they think you're stupid. Unfortunately, too many still fall for it.

    November 15, 2009 07:25 pm at 7:25 pm |
  6. Frank Tine

    This is the guy who thought the best place to put an emergency response center in Manhattan was around the World Trade Center – even though the spot had already been hit by terrorists before. Real genius when it comes to security.

    Rudy needs to stick to dressing up like women.

    November 15, 2009 07:36 pm at 7:36 pm |
  7. kimberly

    rudy always lies, normally he does it on FAUX and never gets called out on it. You need to watch John Stewart to get the facts anymore, just like with FAUX news showing old tape of tea parties and saying it was health care protest, or orielly calling it disgusting to pick on palin because her daughter was pregnant, but then called britney spears parents scum for allowing thier teenage daughter to get pregnant (as I recall she actually MARRIED her baby daddy) ANY WAY the fact is these right wing loons are used to making up stories and having Faux entertainment letting them get away with it...CASE IN POINT all they showed were families against the trials being held in NY, however there were MANY MANY MANY for it, not ONE was on faux, I watched it! I love to watch them lie, it makes me sick!

    November 15, 2009 07:38 pm at 7:38 pm |
  8. proczach

    This district was not held by Republicans for a century. First, boundaries change every ten years as the number of seats New York has changes. Looking back at the bulk center of this disrict the last fifty years, it has switched parties several times.

    November 15, 2009 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  9. Tyler

    They WILL eat their own.. . they always do.

    November 15, 2009 08:00 pm at 8:00 pm |
  10. They call me "tater salad"

    Whats the common factor in everything Rudy Greedyani say's?.............A noun, A verb, and 9/11, and thats about the jist of it!!!

    November 15, 2009 08:19 pm at 8:19 pm |
  11. Wanda

    oh Rudy, yawn

    November 15, 2009 08:40 pm at 8:40 pm |
  12. T'SAH from Virginia

    IT STATES: "...Giuliani erroneously said Owens had voted against the Democratically sponsored health care reform..."

    GOOGLIANI – YOU LIE!!! Every time a REPUBLI-CAN'T opens their mouth, they LIE!!

    November 15, 2009 08:41 pm at 8:41 pm |
  13. good things are coming---S Callahan

    My understanding is the 23rd race isn't certified yet, and possibly the outcome is going to change...should be the news of this coming week. Well know when we hear the fat lady sing (pun intended).

    November 15, 2009 08:55 pm at 8:55 pm |
  14. VS, Florida

    Palin's soaring "book" sales, promoted by bulk purchases by the right wing deep pockets,is getting the nuts in a frenzy of orgasmic ecstacy. Guliani, who has always played fast and loose with facts, is again speaking to the rabble to burnish his conservative support, knowing full well that the rabble care little about pesky facts.

    November 16, 2009 05:37 am at 5:37 am |
  15. Keith in Austin

    Rudy is right! So does anyone know when Barry will be coming home from his Far-East charade? Meanwhile, no decision on Afghanistan and Healthcare Reform in big trouble! I guess he'd rather eat sushi and apologize for WWII.
    4 and the door!

    November 16, 2009 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
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