Washington (CNN) - Americans are split over the health care bill which narrowly passed the House of Representatives earlier this month, according to a new national poll - and the survey suggests the opposition to the legislation isn't coming only from the right.
But despite the controversy surrounding the health care bill, the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Tuesday suggests there has been no change in the Democratic Party's chances of keeping control of Congress in next year's midterm elections, or in President Barack Obama's standing with the public.
The survey suggests that 46 percent of Americans favor the bill, which passed in the House on November 7 by a 220 to 215 margin, with 49 percent of the public opposed to the legislation.
"Roughly one in three Americans opposes the House bill because it is too liberal, but one in 10 oppose the bill because it is not liberal enough," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "That may indicate that a majority opposes the details in the bill, but also that a majority may approve of the overall approach taken by House Democrats and President Obama."
As a result, despite the division over the House bill, a majority of Americans would like to see the Senate take up the legislation. Three in 10 people questioned in the survey want the Senate to pass the House bill with only minor changes, with another 22 percent wanting the Senate to pass the bill only if major changes are made. Another 28 percent feel the Senate should start from scratch and start working on a completely new bill, and 17 percent want Congress to stop working on health care reform altogether.
The poll indicates that Americans are split over whether it's likely the health care bill passed by the House will become law by the end of this year - but nearly six out of 10 feel it's likely that will happen by the end of 2010. "The public expects that a Democratically-controlled Congress and a Democratic president can get their act together on health care and pass something by next year," Holland says. "That puts pressure on the party to showcase some sort of accomplishment on health care by the time next year's midterm elections roll around."
Next November, all 435 seats in the House and more than a third in the Senate are up for grabs. Democrats currently hold a 258-177 advantage in the House, and a 20-seat advantage in the Senate.
According to the poll, 49 percent of those questioned would vote for the Democratic candidate in their congressional district, with 43 percent supporting the Republican. The generic ballot question asked respondents if they would vote for a Democrat or Republican in their congressional district, without naming any specific candidates.
"That 6-point margin is unchanged from an early November poll taken just before the dramatic health care vote on November 7," notes Holland. "The Democrats would certainly like their number to be higher, but the lack of movement suggests no blowback yet from the health care vote on the party's electoral chances next year."
The survey also indicates that the president's standing with the public has remained steady: His approval rating was 54 percent in early November, and stands at 55 percent now.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted November 13-15, with 1,014 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
–CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser contributed to this report
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I am an Independent and I say pass it. It won't be perfect but doing nothing again and again expecting different results is insanity.
Good grief! Controtions of this sort (to try and twist the facts into "support") are usually only seen at Circ...
want another sign on why government run healthcare is a bad idea? have you heard of the recent gov panel suggesting women should not get a mamogram until age 50????? HEALTHCARE RATIONING IS STARTING FOLKS!!! apparently, the 15% of women saved from breast cancer between 40 yrs and 50 yrs are not worth saving. When are we going to wake up......................the death panel have already started. For the love of god....do not let Obama and Pelosi spend over a trillion dollars to overhaul the healthcare system so that decisions like this are made.
Amazing, isn't it? The Republicans refuse to acknowledge private enterprise's pricing ripoffs of the American public and the Democrats refuse to acknowledge the HUGE fraud involved in our health care system.
If just both of these parties acknowledged that the other side has a case, imagine how easy and inexpensive health care for Americans would be. But that will never happen because the two party system that made America great no longer works and that is what really needs reforming!.
the insurance company death panels must be ok for palin who thinks corporations (not regular folks) should dictate who lives or dies. tic toc tic toc tic toc...thank GOD her 15 minutes are almost over!
Man they are twisting facts with "could be"...btw...virtually all Americans are for reform altough you pretened repubs are against it...repubs are against a plan that will not work , is financially unsound and that subsidises and encourages illegal immigration. I thought CNN was trying ot portray itself has "objective'..running drivel like this and posting 1-3 anti-Palin rants a day is far from 'unbiased and objective'.
WE NEED HEALTH CARE REFORM. What I don't need is the GOP saying NO to every idea or solution.
As usual those without health insurance want the rest of us to pay for them. Democrats want everything for free, courtesy of the working people. Everyone needs to be responsible for themselves and pay for their own health coverage. Governments only job is to make sure health care is affordable and available for all to purchase. NOTHING is Obama care will reduce health insurance premiums..........that's NOT their goal, their goal is to be a one payer system. Watch out, this from the government that can't even run a vaccine program for all Americans...............just the tip of the iceberg. Careful what you wish for, we are on the brink of destroying quality health care in America.
It is interesting to note that the health care coverage that congress gets already contains attributes that the Republicans do not want included in the health care bill for the rest of us.
Take about Hypocrites....
We are NOT split... we all agree in principal that some reform is needed. But this monstrosity of a bill put forth by Pelosi and Reid is simply one we cannot afford. It will bankrupt us all, and it fails to look at practical soultions such as tort reform.
If you got the right disagreeing with it because it's too liberal, and the left disagreeing with it because it's not liberal enough, then the fact is that the creators did a STELLAR job of creating a good piece of legislation that meets the middle ground.
PASS IT!
Any legislation that requires 1900+ pages isn't legislation at all. It's a trojan horse full of special interest payoffs, vote buying and political paybacks. this bill isn't good for americans, it's only good for the politicians and their cronies.
Repub, Dem, I don't care! I wish we could throw them all out and start fresh!
and to those that think we should pass it vs. doing nothing....I couldn't disagree more. If it ever passes, we, our children and their chirldren will be living with the aftermath. I say scrap it, start again and address each healthcare problem individually. no amendments and no "one-size-fits-all" solutions!
I'd say it's the verbiage not the picture that bothers her. Sexist- so what was it when Obama was plastered topless on the beach?? Stop whinning Sarah. Everyone is just so mean to you...booo hooo.
We do need something in the way of reform. Unfortunately as a provider I will probably get out of the health care business. Unless, someone pays my loans!
The fact that a CNN Poll shows more opposition than support should tell you Liberals (not to mention the Liberals in power right now) that this legislation is massively opposed.
CNN and it's Liberal-leaning audience generally misrepresent the general public substantially with support for the left. If this poll was conducted in a neutral environment, you'd see the opposition as high as 60%.
The title is misleading. In a 2 to 1 ratio that means one side favors health care reform. And in a democracy that is the way the cookie crumbles. Who is split are politicians who have insurance companies, drug companies, etc put money into their re-election campaigns.
Only morons think TORT reform is any kind of reform. There is no way you can place the word "reform' after TORT. It will do NOTHING to help reform health care in this nation. It attacks a problem that only represent ONE HALF OF ONE PERCENT, and its supporters are ignorant enough to think that the insurance companies are actually going to pass that savings on to the consumer, which has NEVER happened, but some how it will magically happen now.
Well they tried and passed TORT "IDIOCY" in Texas. Result: Health Care cost continue to rise. The only thing it does is place a cap on how much human life is worth. If a doctor kills you "oh well, you aren't worth that much, go to hell with that beloved dead person we killed".
And shut up about competing across state lines, last time I checked: AETNA, Blue Cross, Blue Shield and a score of other insurance companies are in EVERY STATE OF THE UNION. Result, a health care system that ranks right near the bottom in the free world.
The RNC had a provision for abortions in their insurance policies until last week. They still have end of life consultations that Sarah and Grassley call "Death Panels." They just do not want any other Americans to have the same opportunities.
I absolutely do not agree that Americans are split on health care reform, no way at all. If the huge costs, restrictions, and limitations of health care needs haven't hit you personally they have hit a family loved one or friend. We "ALL" know of horrible appalling stories of people who can't get insurance and even die of terrible diseases and injuries, and we don't even need to have the media to tell us about these things. We have to get the Republicans to wake up and help get the reform passed. Health care reform isn't just for Democrats it's for ALL Americans. We have to fight for it.
Healthcare Insurance reform is a must. But the bill that Pelosi and Reid have penned is terrible for our country and for the people. It won't pass and 2010 will be a rude awakening for the dems.
By the way, Glenn Beck is not a nut. We just have to keep him locked in a coat locker once in a while to keep him from hurting himself.
Most people are for a health care rules re-work. Democrats love to decry that Republicans "have no health plan". Well, they do. They just can't get it out of committee to the floor of the house – due to Democrats blocking it. Do not pass this piece of garbage. It's loaded with non-health related power grabs. Read something besides CNN and Drudge and you find out.
Wank wank wank. I think the cover is pretty well done. I'm not a fan of Palin or have even a glimmer of confidence in her as a politician – but the concept of the image is pretty well thought through and I'm surprised she didn't see this as a boon.
Ironing out the wrinkles in america. I suppose she'd rather use it as toilet paper?
Count me as thinking it's not liberal enough. What we really need is some sort of single payer system like every other industrialized nation on the planet. Funny, though, the proposed healthcare reform costs about as much over 10 years as we spend on the military in one year. Cut out 10% of the military budget and that sucker's paid for. Have a nice day!
Thats because MOST Americans want "Single Payer",not watered down versions that only help profit the companies and crooks that run them.
Hold on!! I agree that there is cost that needs to be taken out of health care. But why should I take from my family and pay more medical benefits for those that made their lifes choices and refuse to work in any economic environment?
No way...you made your bed..sleep in it!!
This bill will be the DOWNFALL OF AMERICA
This administration and congress are off their rockers. It doesn't take a great stretch of the imagination to see that there will be a tremendous ripple affect from the passage of this bill. In a very bad kinda way.
The only ones against health care reform are the rich and feel comfortable and secure and do not realize the effect on our society and economy if peoples health care needs are not met. It drags everything down and costs all of us even more. I also might add that, my husband and I were not rich but we certainly were in the above average income bracket (over $100,000) and we ended up bankrupt and struggling until his death. We thought we had the best insurance. So don't think it can't happen to you. It can happen to any of us.
this administrastion has already been caught in its lies about the Stimulus package and job creation (where is your coverage on this CNn?...even ABC is on it)...and we are to expect them to cntrol spending and fraud in a multi-trillion dollar endeavor?...what a sad joke.
Americans are not split about health care reform. Americans want health care reform. Americans do not want Obama's version of health care reform.
Here again who gets to take these polls. I AGAINST OBAMA'S HEALTH PLAN. However I know we need something done. But this man's plan will be the ruination of most middle class and below. The benefits are going to drop out of sight. He needs to start with The Doctors who charge way too much, then the medical institutions whose rates are preposterous. Then to the insurance companies who raises rates at the whim of the wind. I'm talking, automobile, home, and health. Grab them make them pay what is presented or get out of the business. Disasters hit they should be in the area the next day taking claims. OBUMMIES PLAN HAS NOTHING TO COVER THIS ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS TAKE MEDICARE AND PUT IT INTO A COOP.
Roll on 2012! The totally unqualified, arrogant, narcissistic and ignorant AC Obama is destroying America.
If it takes 1990 pages to present the bill AND if Congress and the President have not read the bill AND if the verbage of the bill is so convoluted that even lawyers would have difficulty interpreting the bill, AND if Congress itself will not abandon their current health care paid for by the taxpayers and sign onto the bill, then the bill is NO GOOD.
This Bill is dead on arrival. The Senate won't pass it with the public option and the house blue dogs won't pass it if it contains abortion funding. The longer it takes, the less likely there will be any health care reform at all. Besides, this bill costs way too much and will tax those who can least afford it, while giving a pass to those that have no income, which is now 17 percent (unemployed) of the population. Scrap the bill and start over next year, although I doubt the democrats will have the political will to pass anything this massive in an election year.
Why dont the Dims just go all the way and offer FREE health care for everyone. Surely a nation as prosperous as ours can provide this simple little service for us. Why would they try to pass a health care bill that leaves up to thirty million of our citizens without health insurance? Why even bother if your'e just going to half do the job? What a cowardly bunch the Dims must be to control the House, the Senate, and the White House, and still not be able to pass Free Universal Health Care. Don't try the blame Repubs on this one. The Dims don't need a single vote from them.
THIS HEALTHCARE PACKAGE IS NO LONGER ABOUT HELPING THE MANY BUT A FIERCE BATTLE OF IDEALOGY. In the end there will be a blood bath in 2010 and we'll have another GOVERNMENT MONSTROSITY to feed.
This is a good, not great, bill and it will pass. The legislation will be improved in time, when there are fewer obstructionist Republicans in Congress.
No one asked me, and I am American. I resent headline as such. Polls don’t represent us. You want to know what Americans want, put it to vote.
Forgive me if I say I am ashamed of my fellow Americans. Access to affordable health care should be a right for all citizens of this country. The House bill, while certainly not perfect, will move us in the right direction. How sad that we are a nation of people who are selfish (I have mine so screw the rest of them!) and so unintelligent that they believe sound bites from the radical right rather than facts.
wow where did this person get the idea most americans want single payer system? from Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman? that is the opposite of what americans want, we want choices and not socialism
"HEALTHCARE RATIONING IS STARTING FOLKS!!!"
You're about 6-7 decades late on that score pal.
"have you heard of the recent gov panel suggesting women should not get a mamogram until age 50?????"
Have you heard of citing your sources? I can make things up too: Have you heard of the gov't panel suggesting children born in Kenya automatically get a Hawaiian birth certificate just on the off chance they grow up to be extremely intelligent and charismatic Harvard Law School grads and then state and federal Senators and eventually run for POTUS?
Reforms starts with 2 pages, not 1900:
1. Pre-existing conditions cannot be an exclusion
2. National Tort Reform. For all those that have not gone to medical school and not practiced medicine today, ask your doctor why he or she is ordering tests. It is to cover themselves from the phone book lawyers. All the European countries have strict medical liability, that is why their care is partly less.
3. Open up insurance accorss state lines. It costs the tax payer nothing and at this point is worth a try. For all those that complain it won't work, how can you be so sure.
4. Prove that the Government can truely weed out fraud an abuse in 2 already government run plans, Medicare and Medicaid. Until then, there should not be any consideration of any government option.
Imagine if the government wasn't spending tens of millions of our own taxpayer dollars to convince us its a good idea! It would be more like 10% for and 90% against.
Will there be any other goods and services I will be forced to buy? Hopefully I won't have to pay for cars for everyone out of my taxes next! You laugh but its amazing what people think are a "right" now a days. Cars and big screen TV ownership are among them!
"I am an Independent and I say pass it" says the guy with the name "Obama 2.0".
Yes to Healthcare Reform!
NO to government run Healthcare!!!
The left likes to claim that because the right does not want government provided health care, they are somehow against reform. That is balatently untrue, they simply dont want Social Medicine which is more than reform. Further more... why should my son or I who are diabetic, pay what will one day become 16% of our income to take care of left wing government option advocates while we get pushed back to the end of the health care line do to QALY statistical studies? I bet most advocates dont even know what a QALY is. National Health care is "health care for the healthy" not health cre for the sick. It's Eugenics at its finest! Can you say. Welcome to the USSA I mean "R".
The Republican strategy is working. They wanted to drag this debate out as long as possible. They knew that the voters in the soft middle, the folks who call themselves independents, are very volatile. They are for the hero of the moment and the latest flashy thing.
After the steady pounding of Republican politicians criticizing every move Obama makes – from his choice of breakfast cereals to the color of his pajamas – the soft middle starts to crumble. They are these naive folks who think that significant changes can be made that all Americans will approve of. The don't like controversy.
What a circus,and the ring master is a liar,as we have seen,from all the broken promises. The stimulis is even a lie,now it comes out that there has been more reported jobs created in places where there are no congressional districts... when the lies stop and they have a bill that the Tax Payer has a chance to read and comment on,then there may be a reason to consider Health care reform.
Regarding Beck......he actually did a show a year ago saying we needed socialized medicine period. He just changed his tune to 'we have the best system' when a democrat got elected (typical).
Reality is, the BEST health care systems in the world are socialized. To many right wingers just think that word means 'soviet union, and communism' which they obviously just are uneducated and do not understand. Our system is based on pure profit, where every transaction gets a markup, result YOU pay for it. Be for reform, or against it, doesn't matter, rate the increases are going within 10 years it will collapse (if not sooner by current projections). Then at that point, you get socialized medicine, or none at all. The GOP version just allows more greedy hands in the pot to bankrupt the system faster. So choice is simple, either take a public option, or roll the dice and have nothing.
Dean in Florida wrote: "Americans are not split about health care reform. Americans want health care reform. Americans do not want Obama's version of health care reform."
1. Half of us support Obama's version, half of us do not. Americans are split.
2. What kind of health care "reform" is it that Conservatives always refer to but can never describe?
They're split because they are uneducated. If they weren't, they'd be all for it.
It turns out that in eight states, plus the District of Columbia, getting beaten up by your spouse is a pre-existing condition.
Under the cold logic of the insurance industry, it makes perfect sense: If you are in a marriage with someone who has beaten you in the past, you're more likely to get beaten again than the average person and are therefore more expensive to insure.
In human terms, it's a second punishment for a victim of domestic violence.
In 2006, Democrats tried to end the practice. An amendment introduced by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), now a member of leadership, split the Health Education Labor & Pensions Committee 10-10. The tie meant that the measure failed.
All ten no votes were Republicans, including Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming), a member of the "Gang of Six" on the Finance Committee who are hashing out a bipartisan bill.
After Al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 Americans, on Sept 11, we went to war and spent hundreds of billions of dollars ensuring that this would not happen again. Yet every two months, that many people die because of our failure to provide universal insurance — and yet many members of the GOP want us to do nothing
CNN did you get this survey from the insurance industry? Don't tell me they are sending you huge checks too?
Except for the part which says "nothing" changed related to acceptance of the President OR the Congress, I agree.
We DO hate this President and HOPE he fails and Pelosi and her cohorts Fail.... don't worry about the country... we will do better and recover after the failure
Our government has already admitted to paying $47 Billion in fraud Medicare claims. Why dont they focus on fixing that first before thinking they can create another system that wont have this exact same problem.
Obama, Pelosi, Ried are an absolute disaster. They must have been neglected as children and are looking for some attention. Thier plan will send America into a downward spiral that will difficult to recover from. They strive for mediocrity and will not even be able to achieve that. COME ON 2012.....
CNN is SPLIT!!! on how to take polls.
EVERY poll CNN conducts have BAD news and GOOD news. If this is the case, then they are wording the polls in a way where ALL of the results will be SPLIT!!!! Jeez!!
No kidding, opposition to the Bill is not just coming from the right. As much as the liberal media has tried to spin all opposition to this Bill as just a few right wing nuts, the fact remains that moderate Democrats and Independents are also against some of what is in this Bill. Many people are against just some of the Bill, not all of it, but the Democrat Leadership will not budge (much). Now the Senate Dem Leadership wants to remove all compromises which allowed the Bill to pass the House in the first place.
Amazing all you people who want Obama healthcare are so uneducated to realized this will Kill America, READ THE BILL!!! Stop basing your opinion on CNN, NBC, ABC and all the other news people that have reverted to printing lies and misinformation or not the whole information to make a profit. How about that!!! How about the media is also out there to make profits not just Insurance Companies. Don't forget about the Unions, they make huge profit by bulling. SMARTEN UP AMERICA AND GO TO THE LIBRARY AND READ SOME HISTORY BOOKS.
is a 2000 page bill that pelosi wants , that is full of a bunch of crap going to solve health care
Everybody wants reform. Just not this junk. It is pretty bad if 43% of the population believe the government can replace a private company and reduce the cost. Government provided healthcare costs twice as much when compared to nongovernment healthcare costs according to the W.H.O. website. The government pays about half (46%) the bills and only covers a third of the people; while private money pays about half (54%) and covers two thirds of the population.
Somehow everyone thinks they are going to get something for nothing. It will be interesting to see what happens when the people that cannot afford insurance now get fined for not buying it when the government is selling it. Remember the CBO’s budget neutral conclusion was based on having 168 billion dollars in fines.
...Split between the ignorant & the informed. Let's make this clear CNN
We pay for %100 of the Senate's healthcare, why not for the rest of us ..?
The 46% that are in favor of it the current health care bill,if that number is that high, are the people that don't pay taxes anyway. When Obummie gives the illegal aliens citizenship next year, we will be a true welfare state. Health care rationing has already started with the bogus study on mammography being delayed from age 40 to 50 year old women. I guarantee that the public option if there is one, will not cover mammography until age 50. The private insurance companies will follow and benefit cuts and rationing is in effect. You people better wake up!!!!!!
Depends how you ask the question. I am completely supportive of healthcare reform, but I don't like the legislation currently being considered. The Stup(id?)ak amendment is an insult to all women, and the Public Option needs to be stronger, not weaker.
If they asked me the question, I would say No to the current legislation, but I absolutely believe that Health Care Reform is imeprative.
You really want the same government stooges who gave 15 million stimulous checks out, and now say "oops, we made a mistake, give it back", to run health care? I like how they gave millions of dollars to congressional districts that don't exist. Hows that hope and change treating you?
Bottom Line. This health-care reform is intended to cut medical costs and save money. Nearly every study that has come out says it will RAISE health care costs. Why are we going through all of this goat-roping if the bill will not even work? I'll tell you why....because the Democrats said they would pass something. They are hell-bent and determined to pass anything regardless if it costs a trillion dollars and regardless if it will work or not. They just want "I VOTED FOR HEALTH CARE REFORM" on their report cards come re-election time.
Let's see. Too liberal and not liberal enough? Sounds like the problem Obama has had with everything he's touched so far: trying to play both ends against the middle. Worked like gangbusters during the campaign, but in the real world you gotta take a position.
What a bunch of fools........you really think the government can take over health care and provide you with quality care? They can't even run the H1N1 vaccine program......there still isn't enough vaccine for everyone. This is nothing compared to the disaster ahead if this bill passes. We all agree there should reform, but not this. Everyone should be responsible for purchasing their own coverage. It isn't up to me to go to work to pay for you. Time to take care of you and your own and live with the choices you make.
Let's go to a one payer system and put all the insurance businesses out of business. Unemployment can then be 13-15% instead of the 10.2% we have now. Mission accomplished for Obummie and his followers. They will have more people dependent and therefore more votes. Obummie knows when he gives 10-12 illegal aliens citizenship next year, he will pick up 80-90% of those votes. America is fast being a socialist/welfare state.
Meanwhile in the real world... How many Americans are uninsured? How many Americans–including American children–go to bed hungry?
Not that this matters to Republicans, who make profits off of the sufferings of others.
I can not believe the people opposing heath care reform are so insensitive, selfish and un-compassionate... 40 millions of Americans DON"T have heath insurance. Why opposing reform? I come from Europe where everybody has health insurance – from the advanced countries to the former communist block ones. Why not trying to look at other democracies and LEARN from them? Nobody in the world makes such big profits from sickness. NOBODY in the world has such a high level of privatization in health care.... It's immoral, can't you see it?
The quicker it passes, the quicker people just what it's like living in a country where you *aren't* scared to be sick, the quick Democratic Majorities are shored up in the House and Senate, the quicker Republicans realize they are completely out of touch with the American People, the quicker *maybe*, just maybe a Republican like Richard Nixon (moderate, *REALIST*) comes along and shows them "a path out of the wilderness". Baring these things, Democrats and Republicans will continue to fight over the most stupid of things and Americans will continue to suffer.
I don't claim to be an expert on the American healthcare system but I do know this: When your car gets a flat tire, you don't get rid of the
car–which is basically what the democrats want to do. And why is it you never hear the democrats mention TORT REFORM when our legal system and the ambulance-chasing lawyers that feed off of it are the main reason healthcare cost to much in this country? (Just in case you haven't figured this one out, it's because those ambulance-chasing lawyers are one of the democrats most generous and reliable contributors.) The democrats are more interested in grabbing more power and funneling money to their lawyer contributors than they are in actually making healthcare more accessible and inexpensive for the American people.
Federal funding of abortion, end-of-life counseling, reduced care for seniors, increased taxes, reduced quality of care, limits on exams and procedures, government decions on patient qualifications, etc.
What's not to like? It's every 3rd World Technocrat's dream.
This is why CNN is failing (or shrinking). Misleading headline touting misleading information. Months og negativity, falsehoods (unchallenged and encouraged at CNN) paint an inaccurate picture, the basis for an uninformed opinion, plus add the clods who think tort reform will do the trick . . .
With all the time, talent, and money, it would be nice if all networks spent more than 5 minutes and two people shouting at each other to explain an issue . . .
Anyone else find it ironic that the insurance industry has spent hundreds of millions in advertising and lobbying against this bill, meanwhile, our premiums have gone up 89% since 2001?
I haven't met a single person who doesn't want something to happen with health care. It costs too much and we're being ripped off and we know it. This bill may not be perfect, but I doubt that any bill would be. The Republican suggestions for opening insurance for purchase across state lines is a joke. Its a race to the bottom just like credit card regulation was when it happened across state lines.
Jeez ... all this talk on health care is making me sick.
Yes... healthcare does need to be reformed, I think we all can agree on that BUT WE DO NOT WANT OBAMACARE!!! Why is it if we say we're against his plan, we're against healthcare reform as a whole? WE ARE NOT!! Again ~ we don't want Obamacare!! If the entire country is in an uproar about this, you would think the idiots in Washington would stop and go back to the drawing board...
I spent five days in intensive care this year with a leaking heart valve and my wife had two cataract operations. Our cost? Nothing. We're Canadian. Try it and you won't go back.
Why don't people realize that a single payor system, which would remove the burden of paying for healthcare from the employers, is actually the most pro-business and pro-employment option there is?
Right now US businesses are at an economic disadvantage because the cost of healthcare is factored into most production costs.
Most industrialized nations have their businesses in effect subsidized by the government because the government covers the health insurance costs. Their businesses can compete more on actual production costs.
Small businesses are at more of a disadvantage in two ways – first because if they supply healthcare the cost to them per employee is generally higher, and second because the pool of potential employees are generally stripped of the "cream" because the benefits at large companies are generally better.
Going to a single payor system would increase the competitiveness of US businesses significantly. Which would translate into businesses being in a better postion to hire more workers.
Do people here really think that the poor will benefit from this? Do you think it will be free??? Obamacare is nothing more than the GOVT telling you, that you have to have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you not understand this?? Either pay for it or be fined!! Everyone that thinks Obamacare is good for our Country... Please explain why that is!!! and how it will benefit the poor and the ones that just plain dont want insurance....
Any takers??
We have other thing to work out then heathcare .we need jobs and our Troops so why are we spending more money on heathcare
Do any of you supporting this bill see the irony in the fact that in order to pay for this program they say they will clamp down on Medicare fraud? This accounts for billions of dollars a year.
A. They don't know how or they would have been more successful already and,
B. Medicare fraud will be peanuts compared to Obamacare fraud. We know that. How will they address fraud in this program? It will be significant, just like it is in Medicare. Can we afford that?
i'm amazed by the number pf people who believe they are the only ones in america that work. You do not have to be lazy or stupid to noth have coverage. pass the bill
People just don't get it. We already pay for people who don't pay their hospital bills. You really think it costs $10 dollars for an aspirin at the emergency room. Or $60 bucks for a bandage. No! We already subsidize people who don't pay with higher rates.
Health Car Reform is a joke and if you believe this 1900 pages of lies think again....never pass and with elections comming the Dem's will hide
The fortunate select that have good insuarnce now won't in the future. It's just a matter of time. I once had great insurance, but lost it when I was laid off. If we don't unite with reform, we better not gripe later. It's time to wise up for heavens's sake!!!!!
FACT: Democrats want healthcare for everyone. Republicans don't.
Americans who read and unerstand the US Constitution know that this bill is illegal. It is also immoral as it will enslave our future generations. It is unethical as those who would vote to pass it are going against their promise to uphold the constitution.
Once they pass their bill we should all go on government run Health Care, break the bank and start over. Start over with real reform not another government run entitlement program.
this reform must pass. It may not be perfect but it's a good start.
It seems that people are bitter because Obama wants everybody insured. I don't think all the people that are without insurance are lazy and don't want to pay for it. Perhaps they lost their job with benefits and have a large family and just can't afford it. Has anybody had to buy insurance outright.
You would be very surprised how expensive it is and not good coverage.
What happens when hospitals go bankrupt because people can't afford to pay their bills.
People quit complaining and just be happy you have insurance for now.
What position would you be in if you lost you job?
To Funny... When peoplle proclaim to be "independants" while they decry "pass health care". Yet they have user names like "Obama 2.0". Just goes to show the lack of intellegence out there coming from the left.
The important point to take from this story is that the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT REFORM. The only reason it appears likeit's a close debate is because a significant number of people believe the bill doesn't go far enough.
I'm convinced that those on the Right who oppose the bill, actually oppose the rumors and myths of the bill they have been spoon fed by De facto opposition sources. There is also a movement among some of the intellectually lazy to simply oppose EVERYTHING Obama does because it's easier than thinking of solutions themselves.
You ran a poll to find out if Americans support a health care reform bill. The answer was clearly "yes," since you report that:
"...one in 10 oppose the bill because it is not liberal enough..."
Yes it is true that some of us wish the bill went further than the current versions do. But that is very different from saying that we oppose "health care reform."
Given the results that you've reported, I think it is very misleading to write a headline suggesting that even a slight majority of Americans oppose health care reform.
That's not what the poll says.
There's nothing in the house bill that really reduces costs. Medicare payments to doctors will be reduced but that will just make it harder for those on medicare to find a health care provider. Many people complain about the insurors getting rich, but in reality there's about 5% prifit level. something must be done to reduce costs at the point of delivery.
If any of you who so vehemently oppose health care reform bothered to watch Frontline on PBS last Friday, you would have seen why a public option can and does work for many industrialized countries, including Japan.The pros and cons were equally shown for each type of system that offered universal healthcare. If we adopted the best ideas from each of these nation's programs, and did away with the rest, we could do it very effectively here in the U.S. The bottom line is that if you offer a basic plan, like the one most of us have, we can cut costs and insure everyone. The conervatives in Swizerland said the world would end of they passed their universal plan, they passed it, and even the most vocal opponent says it's great. Every argument
against universal healthcare being the end of America is a lie.
It is true Americans are not split and want health care reform. However, it is not true that Americans do not want Obama's version of health care reform. They are split on Obama's version of health care reform. It is also not true that the administration lied about the Stimulus and job creation. The truth is they made a mistake is estimating the ability of the stimulus package to keep the unemployment below 10%. It doesn't help to use inflammatory language and lie about the facts.
Your story says 67% want the House bill either majorly changed or thrown out all together (22% + 28% + 17% = 67%).
Then you claim "Americans are split over the health care bill which narrowly passed the House of Representatives earlier this month."
I suppose you must have meant to say Americans are "split" 2 to 1 against this scam.
Healthcare reform, only if abortion is completely ,100%, out of it. Abortion is not a healthcare matter.
Only if abortion is completely, 100%, out of healthcare. Abortion has never been a healthcare matter
"The Healing of America" by T.R. Reid is worth reading.
Kaiser Family Foundation is another source of information for our decision-making on health care reform.
I only ask that President Obama stay true to his promise/ his word.
No financing of abortions with taxpayer dollars, that would be inclusive of any plan private or public that utilizes tax dollars. This is a moral issue, no different than botox injections, and should be treated as that..let those who want it pay for it on their own, and respect those who don't by not forcing them to pay out of their own tax dollars. Keep health in the debate, provide care for the poor and disfrancished. Get this passed...we ARE our sister and brother's keeper...and in view of many other countries we are a little delayed in responding to that calling when it comes to health care.
The CNN poll is the only nation poll that has it that close. Most other polls show the public is more against than for reform....especially Pelosi and Obama's type of reform.
Since the Health Insurance Companies are so vigorously opposed to the Health Care Reform Bill, doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about it?
I'm all for health care reform, but I also believe in a single payer plan. Those who don't believe in reform are comprised of ...
1. People who already have coverage and have secure employment.
2. People who chose not to have coverage and use hospital ERs as their medical providers thinking "it's free". Not truly understanding that those who have insurance coverage are picking up their tabs.
I'm certain the "nay-sayers" would be all for health care reform if [for some reason] they were to lose their existing coverage.
Just what we need, another CNN poll! And you wonder why your ratings are tanking!
If the Democrats try to push through ANYTHING helping Illegals, the Democrats will lose 2010 and beyond, believe it.
Just think it only took a little over 4500 words to start this country (the Consitution.) This bill is over 2000 pages long, wow! Here is a novel idea to have both sides be quiet and get back to dealing with real world issues (unemployment, the "scarity" of food for people, etc.) Let the Democrats write a bill up the put in up for an American vote. If the bill gets 60%, then it passes and we also know that it was meant to be. Let us not have lobbyist and Congress make our decision for us.
The story claims "The survey suggests that 46 percent of Americans favor the bill."
LOOK FOR YOURSELF.
The story then explains 67% of Americans want the House bill either majorly changed or thrown out all together (22% + 28% + 17% = 67%).
LOOK FOR YOURSELF.
Unless you meant to say Americans are "split" 2 to 1 against this scam, this story is a lie.
Healthcare Reform...I am still waiting for my H1N1 shot.