November 18, 2009
Posted: November 18th, 2009 03:11 PM ET

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(CNN) – Democratic Sens. Blanche Lincoln, Mary Landrieu and Ben Nelson, who have all expressed skepticism about the party's health care reform plan, were summoned to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office Wednesday to get a sneak peak at his health care bill.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said Wednesday the senator invited these three moderate Democrats into his office to give them the "particulars on the bill."

All have been withholding support on voting to start debate - and the fact that Reid is giving the three their own special briefing, before the broader Democratic meeting at 5 pm Wednesday, is a signal of their power.

Assuming no Republican senator joins Democrats in voting to end debate, Reid needs all 60 senators in his party's caucus to vote in favor of a so-called "motion to proceed."

If any Democrat votes no on proceeding to debate, Reid's health care bill will go down before it starts.


A source familiar with Nelson's thinking reminded CNN Wednesday that has historically supported beginning debate, and does not believe that has anything to do with whether he will support a final bill. Landrieu told CNN she is leaning toward a "no" vote on the motion to proceed.

Manley says Reid still believes the Senate will vote on the motion to proceed this Saturday.

Filed under: Health care • Senate Democrats


Fred   November 18th, 2009 7:55 pm ET

His health care bill will go down before it starts. Well ,lets see how many smart Dems we have

ib   November 18th, 2009 7:16 pm ET

The demo's are determined to ram this thing down people's throats. We will remember; we will vote you out in 2010. So much for trying to work together. With the demo's it's our way or the highway. They will be given the highway in 2010.

LacrosseSon   November 18th, 2009 7:14 pm ET

Let's see...$850,000,000,000 over 10 years...figure only half of Americans work and pay taxes, figure anything the government does winds up costing twice as much as estimated...yep–this is going to cost us hard-working Americans more than $1,000 a year for 10 years!

Here comes the "double-dip" recession Obama was afraid of!

Oh, then the cost goes up, as they assume we wouldn't notice additional costs kick in after 10 years. Frankly, I'd rather save that $1000 each year in my own catastrophic medical account.

What it boils down to is this: I shouldn't have to pay for my neighbor's health care!!!

Albo58   November 18th, 2009 6:48 pm ET

Public Option does NOT mean competition. Public Option means a complete government take over of health care in this country! It leads to health care rationing, premium increases to people that actually pay for health care insurance, and it will add an enorous and continual amount to the national debt! The actual value of either the House/Senate bill can be witnessed by the amendments that were voted down to force these Congressional thieves to subject themselves to the same system that they are trying to force upon us!

Henry Miller, Libertarian, Cary, NC   November 18th, 2009 6:32 pm ET

Even the CBO admits this turkey is going to cost almost a trillion bucks–and they're famous for hugely underestimating the cost of things.

The country just can't afford this.

If Congress can come up with true health care reform–something that doesn't turn health care into another insanely expensive welfare entitlement–great. But the Dems just don't get it that a majority of us really aren't interested in being stuck with the medical bills of people too irresponsible, indolent, or improvident to take responsibility for themselves.

joe mett   November 18th, 2009 6:13 pm ET

It is about time these fake democrats and pretentious aristocrats lose their seats. It would not matter much because there would always be realignment of seats in the senate or the house. Losing their seats would be good for the democratic process!!!!

Greg, MN   November 18th, 2009 6:06 pm ET

Knock, knock idiots who is getting campaign contributions from insurance companies? Start with Barry Obama. He received more in two years that some in 20 years. Who has been bought?

Greg, MN   November 18th, 2009 6:04 pm ET

I think China just told Baracko that they are not buying more of the government's debt, and actually want payments to start on the trillions we owe them already.

I think the urgency for Health Care Reform is faltering because anyone with a brain knows it will pile on to the national debt .

DJ   November 18th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

no wimpy Democrats, quit putting your finger to the wind to test which way the wind blows...grow a spine please and stand-up for a strong public option

Greg, MN   November 18th, 2009 6:00 pm ET

He needs Lieberman as well, doesn't he?

TD   November 18th, 2009 5:46 pm ET

enough "Hear the MAJORITY of Americans loud and clear"
It amazes me when people start claiming that the minority is the majority. Do you have the numbers to support your claim that the majority of Americans do not support the public option? This is a democracy, and therefore the majority should rule.

voter   November 18th, 2009 5:39 pm ET

What is the excuse for the blue dogs to not support the bill? Quite frankly the blue dogs aka republicans are not aganist the bill because of the price tag it is because they receive funds from the insurance companies. The insurance companies are paying for their re-election bids.

Laura in KS   November 18th, 2009 5:25 pm ET

All right, I see we're back to comparing the USPS with Healthcare. If you think about it, they're aren't really comparable. While some blame may lie w/ the gov't as to why the USPS is failing, doesn't it make more sense that perhaps it's failing b/c communication by ground mail is mostly obsolete now due to modern technology such as telephone/internet/etc.

demsrulz   November 18th, 2009 5:22 pm ET

Strong public option! We need competition... Vote yes!

I just dont get it?   November 18th, 2009 5:15 pm ET

I just don't understand that if you realize the need for some kind of reform that you would vote no and not give yourself the chance to amend the bill. This vote is not to pass the bill or not. Its only for bringing it to the floor to debate and amend it. Isn't that exactly what our senators are there to do?

Laura in KS   November 18th, 2009 5:14 pm ET

Actually, "Enough," the AP just released a poll that showed the Majority DO WANT a public option. They even asked the question different ways, and the Majority STILL supported it. Isn't it considered insanity when you keep repeating something time and again, even after it's been proven false?

frank   November 18th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

I wonder what these moderates are getting paid by the repugs to help people die quicker.

Cindy   November 18th, 2009 5:09 pm ET

Regarding Congress investigating the Fort Hood shootings.. while I support the investigation, I think Joe Lieberman needs to stay out of it. He's already declared that the US needs to have a "Zero Tollerance" policy on these issues, like Israel has. Look at where that's gotten Israel? They're leading themselves down the path of destruction, cause they have no idea how to get along with their neighbors.

We need understanding what causes these problems, not escalation, not witch hunts. Lieberman has already shown his cards... he wants a witch hunt.

books   November 18th, 2009 5:05 pm ET

Landrieu does get it, the choice is...she gets voted out of Congress with a yes vote, because her state does not want it OR she votes no and stays in Congress. The choice is hers...keep her job or be voted out!

Kat   November 18th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

BHO, worse president EVER!!! Landrieu needs to listen to the people. WE DO NOT WANT THEIR PLAN. Scrap it and come up with real reform. I have emailed her several times about this issue. Now I will step back and see if she listens.

Alex   November 18th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

This ridiculous idea that bills need 60 votes to pass should come to an end! If Republicans and conservative Democrats (they're NOT moderates) like Nelson, Lincoln and Landrieu want to filibuster this bill, make them get up there and read from the dictionary or their favorite recipe book for hours on end. Show the obstructionism for what it is!

Urgh   November 18th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

Anything worth doing is worth doing right....this isn't right. Can't paint it any other way. All anyone can do is distract with personal attacks and arm bending behind closed doors. Disgusting!

Al in Chesapeake   November 18th, 2009 4:59 pm ET

I hope these three senators as well as others see the light and realize this monstrosity of a health care reform bill will bankrupt the U.S. It is
hard to believe they can't see ways to get both parties together and
come up with a bill that is agreeable to all parties as well as the
U.S. citizens. Now that another government agency (USPS) is in
trouble we sure don't need another one that is bigger. I still would
like to know where they are going to get the facilties as well as
doctors to handle the influx of the 45 million new patients if the
current bill does pass, which I hope doesn't.

Ken Leone   November 18th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

I hope this meeting with Reid isn't so much due to their "power" but more of a calling them into the woodshed for a spanking. If they don't know what side of the aisle they belong on, these "Blue Dogs" run the risk of becoming out of office "Stray Dogs."

Mickey   November 18th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

That's it Reid, cram this down the GOP's pie hole...you have the votes.

GOP: Evolve or die.

Scott   November 18th, 2009 4:57 pm ET

Wow, there are so many blatantly untrue assumptions and lies being thrown around by the opponents of health care reform that it takes a person's breath away.

I know facts don't seem to be the strong suit of the Republican base, but you guys (the working poor) really appear to be pretty clueless. Why do you people continuously choose to spew the nonsense coming out of the Rush and Bohner repeating brainwashing machine – rather than simply looking at what is in your everyday personal best interest.

I really do want the best things for all Americans (including these guys) – maybe they deserve to go down on the boat they insist on sabotaging – but we are better than that. Forgive them for they know not what they do . . .

Grrr-awful-o   November 18th, 2009 4:57 pm ET

Ha! Bet he gave them more than just the "particulars of the bill". A lot more!

leon   November 18th, 2009 4:43 pm ET

Will be interesteing to see what can Reid do or say to try convincing these blue dogs on supporting the bill

Stortz   November 18th, 2009 4:42 pm ET

Just remember, WE THE PEOPLE…!

Thanks to all the politicians that have been bought off over the years the above statement feels more like We the Corporations! The greatest resource this country has is it’s people, and they ALL need affordable health insurance!

C. Farrell, Houston, Tx   November 18th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

Senator Landrieu of Louisiana is about as useless as they come and should have been removed after Katrina along with the former governor. Louisiana needs healthcare more than any other state with all the dead bodies they haven't recovered and the stinch of death and germs in the air and water.

mjm   November 18th, 2009 4:39 pm ET

Got to love the transparency!

Thank GOD they said this was going to be the most open, transparent administration ever. Hard to think how they would be acting if they hadn’t made that pledge.

Hide the bill until the last minute....then RAM IT!

Any bill that has to be hidden from the public, and needs 60 votes to pass, IS NOT WORTH PASSING.

Here's an idea, write a bill that everyone can support for a change....and doesn't take over health care and cost billions.

Enough   November 18th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

Hear the MAJORITY of Americans loud and clear............we DON't want this disaster. Work on real reform and throw this mess out.

NO Public option..........we don't want it.

Kevin in Ohio   November 18th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

Let the strongarm Chicago-style politics begin. These three democrats need to hold firm, or the entire economy will collapse.

Felonious Monk   November 18th, 2009 4:35 pm ET

Jesus on the cross was a retroactive abortion. LOL

Gary   November 18th, 2009 4:34 pm ET

Don't let the motion to proceed go forward unless the public option, new taxes and abortion funding are completely OFF THE TABLE!!! Stay strong!

D.   November 18th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

They will be told what was decided behind closed doors, since they said they will not vote for a public option, so they need a "trick" to have it without saying it (Not with a positive tone)!.

Whhhoooo, in general, it is an amazing thing in this country, everyone is telling us what they will not do. The president NOT watching election results, NOT reading Palin book.... Whooo... we know so well what some people will NOT do. When will we know what they will do (or when will they start doing)?

Liberal in Nebraska   November 18th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Come on Nelson, do the right thing. Vote for reform.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   November 18th, 2009 4:24 pm ET

I hope that some Republicans join with all the Democrats to pass their version of reform so that it can go to conference and get to the president's desk. We shouldn't have to wait so long for this.

RCasson   November 18th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

PASS this already!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Duck Fallas   November 18th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

He should throw them out the window.

Then follow them.

Four and The Door   November 18th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

I wonder how many hundreds of millions of dollars his "convincing" will cost us. These last three votes don't come cheap.

WIlly Brown   November 18th, 2009 4:09 pm ET

Hippie Harry strong arming his peeps.

Dar   November 18th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

You think Reid is a little worried? I bet the witch is too. This is a pig of a bill from what I have heard and we only know a little bit about it. How much of this bill is pork? What are they hiding in this 2000 pound pig? It would take month's to go over this pig page by page and I bet Reid hope's that know one has the time to go through the whole thing. He's a dirty little pig to want to push this down the Americans thoat.

File under "Sarcasm"   November 18th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

OK, Harry, do your arm twisting. You know that once the debate is open you can pull some tricks and push it through with a 51 vote majority. Want to bet Rahm is there to break a few kneecaps, if necessary?

LacrosseDad   November 18th, 2009 3:57 pm ET

let the waterboarding begin...socialized healthcare at any costs. Harry reid's motto

Vietnam Combat Veteran, Ohio   November 18th, 2009 3:56 pm ET

The three of them are in the ins. pockets a little further than most. Back stabbers, all three!

Proud Member..Party of No   November 18th, 2009 3:54 pm ET

And if any of the three of them go along with Reid they might as well start packing up their office because their political career will be over.

Dennis   November 18th, 2009 3:53 pm ET

I would say take names and kick behind in the next election for anybody who chooses to go against the will of the American people. It is called "for the people" not the big money hungry executives of the insurance industry. Just how quick were these same people to vote for the bail out of Goldman Sachs who is now getting ready to pay BILLIONS of dollars in bonuses to the very same people who helped sink this ecomony in toilet. We do not forget that quickly.

Sea.gem   November 18th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

You mean a sneak peek at his "God help me, I am about to lose my seat in the next election you gottsa save me plan"....sell-out.

RTB   November 18th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

Are these three really Democrats? They certainly are not keeping to the traditions of the Democratic Party. They appear to be big business Republicans in the pockets of the insurance industry. Why would any public servant not want to do what is best for the public.

Paul from Phoenix   November 18th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

Everyone see how women now don't need mamograms until 50? THis was decided by a panel of non-medical "professionals," the same "professionals" who will be in charge of our new health care program.

WELCOME TO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE!

This is exactly what will happen. The government will decide what is more "cost effective" and run with it. Nevermind that the numbers of breast cancer patients have been rising steadily over the last couple of decades.

Pee Wee   November 18th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

If any Democrat votes no on proceeding to debate, Reid's health care bill will go down before it starts.

No, it won't. It just means they'll keep coming back again and again. Like a bad dream.

I say bring it to the floor, then kill it!

A big reason the economy is stuttering is because entrepreneurs are timid with all of the looming doomsday legislation. Health Care, not conducive to expansion of business because of the inherent costs. Cap and trade, another one that adds to the operational cost of running businesses.

AJ   November 18th, 2009 3:44 pm ET

These three are not MODERATE Democrats. They are CONSERVATIVE Democrats. CNN does not seem to be able to differentiate. Going over the healthcare bill with these three will do no good. They will not vote for anything that changes the status quo. They come from conservative states and by all rights should be republicans. None of them are right wing but they are hardly moderate regardless of what they would like to call themselves.

a health economist   November 18th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

One thing I've never understood with the Democrats' strategy for trying to get the public option, or at the very least just get everyone insured period, is that they have never properly explained to the public how the system currently works.

The uninsured still get care. Some care they can and do pay for out of their pocket. Other times they can't pay for it and it becomes a loss to the health care provider. If they go to the ER (which no one can be turned away from) the care is very expensive. Any loss a health care provider has due to an uninsured individual not paying for care gets shifted to those that do have insurance. This in turn raises premiums.

We are already paying for the uninsured. We have been for decades. That's capitalism for you. One health care provider's loss is another person's increased premium.

Pee Wee   November 18th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

The wheeling and dealing starts. If you don't vote for this, forget about your district getting ....

It's sickening the way they work up there. We all know it's been going on for years and years, but enough is enough. Perhaps all of that transparency we were promised is finally working out? Or, are Americans finally getting interested now that the stakes are getting so high?

calvin   November 18th, 2009 3:38 pm ET

reid and the democrats should stop trying to write a new bill and go with obama bill.

Too True For You   November 18th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

See, republicans, how it's supposed to be done?

If you have members of your party, you try to include them, you have discussions with them, try to gain their support.

You don't ostracize them for not being pure enough to pander to your whacko fringe and send them packing in favor of extremist lapdogs.

Thisis how adults do it. Well, democratic adults.

Joseph-Ohio   November 18th, 2009 3:35 pm ET

Attention Dem (wit) Senators! Will you for once in your life stand together on an issue!!!!!! Republicans stick together for the good of their party even when they disagree and this bond has kept them in power more often than Dems. This is one thing the Dems can learn from conservatives. Democrats need to learn to stick together as a part. Come on "60" show your stuff and pass this reform. Trust me if the shoe were on the other foot 60 Republicans would have settle this by now, and moved on to other pressing issues. Stand together guys and get the job done. Your Democratic President will thank you!

Ed Tallahassee   November 18th, 2009 3:35 pm ET

I don't see the long-term advantage of having Uninsured Americans, the sooner we get all Americans covered and make it so that people get better care earlier not having to use the Emergancy Room as Primary Care, and Everyone having insurance so that every bill gets paid you'll see the hospital charges go down because they won't have to make the currently insured subsidise the uninsured.

Carnell From The Motor City!   November 18th, 2009 3:35 pm ET

Don't Forget That Other Democratic Sellout Senator David Conrad Of North Dakota. If Senator Landrieu Does Take The Action She Claims To Take, There Will Be Hell To Pay.

voter   November 18th, 2009 3:33 pm ET

It is time to forget the blue dogs aka republicans and pass hcr with reconciliation. What is infuriating to me is that Landeu has over 875,000 consitutiants without healthcare. 550,000 of the 875,000 are people who work and have no healthcare. over 1000 people attended the free clinic at new orleans yet she is uncertain about hcr. Maybe she should talk to the 875,000 constituants who have no healthcare in order to understand the severity of her inaction.

Whiners And Wackos   November 18th, 2009 3:32 pm ET

Who cares what these turncoats are doing? Landrieu should be ashamed of herself after what she and her cronnies put the country through with their mishandling of Katrina. And now she wants to stop the most important legislation in a lifetime? I don't think so.

The Bluedogs better shape up or ship out–America is on the move and we will not be stopped by the dead weight of rabid right wingers and dillusional Democrats.

Move On, Step Over These Deadbeats, Move On Without Them–Let's Go.

Pepou   November 18th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

These three should be ashamed! They are democrats from states where millions have no health insurance and they should support the President. If not, move over to the GOP and face the consequences.

demsrulz   November 18th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

Blue dog dems are nothing more than republicans in donkey's clothing because they know the republican party is no more...

Ken from missouri   November 18th, 2009 3:25 pm ET

If they offered a choice to everyone maybe this wouldn't be that hard
maybe these senators can get the congress to do this it would be real nice.

gt   November 18th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

love to be a fly on the wall.....

Vigla   November 18th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

Let's just pass this in reconciliation and be done with it. We're giving these wishy washy senators too much power. People need heath reform...not giveaways to big insurance companies. We NEED a robust public option!

proud conservative   November 18th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

It looks like these three senators have been called to the wood shed by Harry Reid. Let's hope that they don't cave in and support this monstrosity.

George W Bush = Worst President Ever   November 18th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

It is time to bring this to the floor of the senate. Landrieu just doesn't get it.

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