(CNN) - Three-quarters of American women between the ages of 35 and 75 disagree with the relaxed medical recommendations for mammograms announced by a government panel last week, according to a new Gallup/USA Today poll.
The survey released Tuesday finds 47 percent of women "strongly disagree" and another 29 percent "disagree" with the recommendation from the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force last week that women in their 40s should no longer get routine breast cancer exams, and that the interval for women getting a mammogram in their 50s should be every two years, rather than every year.
Only 22 percent of those surveyed expressed support for the proposals.
In what could be bad news for the White House and congressional Democrats as they attempt to calm fears an overhaul of the nation's health care system would result in rationing, 76 percent of those polled believe the panel's recommendations were motivated by cost savings rather than an actual assessment of the true risks involved.
The White House has distanced itself from the panel's recommendation amid the uproar it sparked last week.
The report "shouldn't be dismissed," Sebelius said told CNN last week." But, she added, "There are other groups who have disagreed with this information." The task force is "making recommendations, not coverage decisions, not payment decisions."
The poll surveyed 1,136 women, aged 35-75, between November 20-22 and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
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Early health rationing.....you that voted for Obama how you liking that change now.
Get used to it people.....this is the way government runs health care. Rationing of services and the government deciding who will get what treatments and when which results in........that's right...death panels.
The Obama "final solution".
My 41 year old niece just lost her 3-year long battle with breast cancer.
It was stage 4 before it was diagosed. Had she had mammograms the cancer could have been diagnosed earlier and she may be alive today to take care of her three children, the youngest being 5. I'm for given mammograms earlier not later.
Just testing the waters to see how we really feel about rationing.
This is just the beginning of Obamacare and the "death panels" that will follow. Be careful what you wish for....
It was a recommendation that should be discussed and then dismissed. Once again, before the wingnuts spew their hate and fear, it was a recommendation.
So,76% of those polled feel that the Panel's recommendations were motivated by cost savings rather than true risks? Why would this be bad news for the White House? Have you forgotton that a health care bill has not been passed and very well may not be passed. So we are still operating under the current system which is driven by corporate insurance companies.If this was motivated by cost savings then it is benefitting the insurance companies, not government bureaucrats. This is a panel that puts a corporate bureaucrat between you and your doctor not a government bureaucrat. This is why the Obama administration wanted to address health care to begin with--to get out from under the current system and provide care based on need, not cost. I think this is good news for the White House, not bad news.
This report is ammunition for republicans to say that the Healthcare Refform bill is going ot lead to rationing. Wake up people!! You get rationed care NOW, you just don't know about it or aren't reading your medical EOB correctly. If you look at an EOB(Explanation of Benefits), look at procedures that were performed on you, and then look at which procedures the insurance company covered. I guarantee you in majority of cases, there are some procedures that are not covered.
Obama was quick to point out that the government panel was appointed by Bush... but this just more clearly demonstrates the problems with government panels, committees, advisors, etc creating rules for health care. These groups are in-fact becoming the "death" panels the pro socialized medicine backers claim do not exist.
someone needs to clarify to the women in this country if what CNN talked about last night is true or not – is this "recommendation" by the "task force" included in the new health care bill???? is this the same task force mentioned in the new health care bill?????
women will NOT be the scape goats in this reform!!!!
Welcome to Obamacare and the farce that is "preventative medicine." These groups that make these recommendations are the people who are going to determine what types of tests will and won't be covered in Government run health care.
Here is my question for you people who want this to pass, the US Postal Service is billions in debt, Medicare is bankrupt, Social Security is bankrupt, and our government is in record debt.
With this track record, how could you possibly want this incredible failure determining what health care should look like?
The Secretary's remarks ring hollow. We ration care now between the covered and uncovered. We will continue to ration it in the future, but differently, and anyone who thinks the total number of mammorgrams will increase to cover the previously uncovered is being unrealistic. The money won't be there. The current "health reform" efforts do almost nothing to bring down demand–in fact, they increase it. But supply is not ony not increasing, it will decrease. The truth is coming out slowly and sooner or later, the 80-85% of Americans who are already covered will figure out that their costs are going to increase and that availability of care will decrease in order to extend more care to the uncovered. When that happens, they will turn against the current legislative "reform" efforts–and the people who promoted this "reform.".
Don't these women get it? What they think doesn't matter! The Government has spoken!
Welcome to Obamacare.
Is there a similar recommendation for prostate tests?
I bet not!
That's for men..."real" people!
There again...it's always the women who get the short end!
"76 percent of those polled believe the panel's recommendations were motivated by cost savings rather than an actual assessment of the true risks involved."
Bingo!
It's going to get worse. When the government is flipping the bill and there is no money behind the "public option", this is what happens.
And YES, private insurance will use this to deny payment for these tests. That's why you can't have some panel of bean counters sitting around making these decisions.
The panel is doing what it is suppose to do, and has always done, which is to review raw data and make recomendations based on that data.
The significants of these findings are being distorted for political purposes. Also, another point to consider is that maybe getting a mammogram every year can also contribute to some one getting canser as well. But in this politicaly toxic environment, rational discussion is not an option.
Medical cost can best be contaioned, not by reducing screenings but by making the affordable. An MRI that cost $160 in Japan cost around $1600 in the US.
People should not be afraid of the Government getting involved in our heath care as the long term implications are imporved, more affordable health care for all.
At this time, the focus is on who these provate interpirses can squeeze $ out of the populus, rather the quality care and effecient cost structure.
Yeah, right, only recommendations – except this is the same panel that is in the health care bill that is tasked with setting what procedures insurance companies do / do not have to cover.
Obamacare – it appears it's not all it's cracked up to be.
As a two time breast cancer survivor, I would like to weigh in on this. First of all, this fear-mongering about "rationing" has to stop! I had pre-menapausal breast cancer . . . twice. Both lumps I found myself through self exams. Both times there was confusion AFTER I had a mamogram because the lumps were too small and my breast were too dense for the mamogram results to be reliable. Women, PLEASE use common sense and talk to your individual health provider . . . should you be lucky enough to have health insurance, that is! Again . . . . the politicians who are trying to use this to gin up fear in women are despicable!
Another reason why gov't anything with your health is bad. Gov't is not a performance based operation.
being a 57 year old maLE I STRONGLY AGREE WITH THE WOMEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY TOLD MEN YOU SHOULD WAIT TILL AGE 70 TO CHWCK FOR PROSTRATE CANCER
as a dad, husband and father I think you need to step up and vote a woman as president
this garbage is obviously NOT in your best interests and you as a collective group need to do something
I will support you, but get off your collective butts and vote someone in
I also think, on a crazier note, Africa needs an all female army, we could arm them with machine guns etc
Unfortunately, polls like these simply tap the primal fear of government. I haven't read the group's written recommendation, nor any of the papers and studies they cite as evidence for their recommendation... and I seriously doubt many of the people who disagree with their recommendation have either. Without examining the evidenciary support it's impossible to make an informed decision of their motives. Which is not to say I agree with them or not – I can't form an educated opinion until I educate myself.
A government funded study and the WH distances itself? Excuse me but aren't we in the midst of discussing health care reform? If this becomes part of his coverage policy....and we won't know it til all is said and done...I do hope the government will make the decision NOT to use my tax dollars anymore for Viagra, Cialis and any other ED drug. These do not treat a lifethreatening disease.
My best friend died of breast cancer at the age of 31.Her first mamogram was at 28. If it had not been detected then she would have probably died at 29.
With a family history of breast cancer myself I think it important to continue annual mamograms' in the forties. What are these people thinking? Two years could be a death sentence for some.
Get ready people if the gov. controlled health care plan these will no longer be recommendations they will become law under rationing of health care which is what the new plan is all about in my humble opinion.
i'm sure some1 will say this is Obama fault.. lol
I had mine this year at age 56 and it came back NEGATIVE. I could imagine if I started doing this at age 40 – the worrying each time most likely would have caused different results. BUT – my friend had one done at age 40 and already had STAGE 2 Cancer!!!
NO ONE should tell women what they should do or NOT do with their bodies!!! CASE and POINT!!!
CNN creates controversy where none exists.
Way to deceive, CNN
How about another poll?
Are we bored yet?
This is what you Obama supporters voted for...the marginalization of women on par with China and India. You are getting what you deserve!
May I suggest women that in the future you vote with your brain and not your heart?
This allows insurance companies to pay for fewer mamograms and biopsies. Bottom line. They will probably lose whatever profit or savings they make on courses of chemotherapy for the cases that were not caught earlier, and more women will die during their tax paying years. But what do we care, right?
Don't they mean...obama's Death Panel?
This is exactly what will happen with a government controlled public option. It is an oxymoron to think you can cover more people and reduce costs. The only way to reduce costs is to ration care. That's the path of least resistance the government will say. If these proposals are adopted this WILL happen. The debt will increase, premiums will increase, current coverage will cease, and care will degrade. What change that is.
I understood that 1 in 1900 women is found to have cancer with the mammogram. The study is just asking a question: is it ok to put in stress with false positives or test after test 1899 women just to reach that 1 woman with cancer? While the self-examination test is still there for everybody to use, and which is better because each woman knows her own body and a change will be noticed faster than a mammogram since the self-examination can be done once a month.
If you are at risk, you will still get then every year. If not, why go to the expense? I have had one every year for 16 years, even though there is NO breast cancer in my family, thank God. I would have no qualms about waiting two years between tests. it takes an average of 10 years for a tumor to be big enough to be spotted.
That panel was put together by the Bush administration.
This is only the beginining of Obamacare and more to come soon. Even people pay for their health insurance, the Obama's panels will say that you should not have annual mammogram, should not have annual pap smare test, should not have anuual physical check-up, should not check for prostate cancer etc etc....... Remember that prevention does save life and healthcare costs!
Interesting how these reports come out as they are debating health care.........kind of like trying to test the waters and get our reaction to the new Obama care............limit testing to save $$. Don't think it is a coincidence, just an inidication of things to come. Wake up people, do you really think you are going to get quality health care from the government? You really want Medicare for all? Now the government plans to cut Medicare even more. Careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
CNN again. Please say you are similar to Fox by constantly trying to pin every bad news on the Democrats. Where were you when Bush did all that wrong.
and a year a go it was bad news for republicans
when will we learn to vote these stupids out
all of them
im dumb but i will admit it
What does this panel's ridiculous recommendations have to do with the Democrats? A panel that was staffed in 2007 by the Bush Administration! Oh, maybe it's using this worthless recommendation as a smokescreen to dismiss health care reform. The timing of all of this stinks to high heaven.
I don't know what the government is trying to pull with the ridiculousness of a new recommendation. It sure smells like a rationing to me and with rationing comes unwanted/undeserving deaths. The White House keeps digging a hole for itself.
I was told by the VA a month ago that because I got a colon screening done at 47 years old that they were going to ever 10 years vice 5 years. They said this was due to Obama's reduction in uncessary screenings. It's just now starting with the Dem's health care - be prepared to pay more for less in health care. Less screenings equal more deaths and a savings to the government...
If the monstrosity of the "health" bill passes, this is EXACTLY the panel which will be dictating what tests are allowed and paid for.
READ THE BILL, there is no free lunch.
A poll is only a poll. Just because a person has breasts does not mean they know anything about radiation. 'How much is too much' is a decision for those who do research. Of course, those who sell mammogram services wish the recommendation was 'monthly'.
I have an idea for woman, just keep doing what you have been doing..this agruement has been going on for a week, enought already. If you want one, get one, it is your body. YOu have rights and a brain for pete sake use them..
The Obama administration has started its conditioning of the public towards nationalized healthcare rationing. Costs and taxes will increase substantially; quality will decrease substatially; substantial numbers of people will DIE and you will be poorer for it. But the Dems will laugh and dance at having more power.
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The recommendation of the Task Force is based on evidence from well conducted studies of thousands of women. These studies compared the survival of women who received mammogram screening with that of women who were not screened. The mortality from breast cancer was essentially the same. Those of us who are familiar with the medical literature on this issue have known this for years. The Task Force finally had the courage to publicize it. People want to believe that mammography makes a big difference, but the reality is that it doesn't. Well conducted reseach should trump anecdotal, personal testimonies. A lot of the "cancers' detected by mammograpy would never have caused any problems to the women. But when they know they have "cancer" they then require treatment that can cause many side effects and long-term problems.
When you think about this large group of women not
happy with the GOV panel decision and then you try
to think of how you and your family, alone, will try to
combat the GOV panel - the Govt. knows you have
no clout alone and will ignore you and go with a panel.
This will be "rationing."
Got Hope, still?
I wonder how many of those people actually are getting annual mammograms? Most of the women I know at that age aren't. I suspect most of them are gonna turn out all right, what's for a few who are probably taking risks with their health anyhow?
Okay, fair enough, now how many of that 76% actually go get a mammogram done? Being a healthcare professional for the better part of 20 years, in most cases, unless a woman devolops a problem i.e. lump or pain in the breast area and/or have a strong family history of breast cancer, a lot of women under the age of 50 do not get a mammogram, even when they are instructed to do so. I actually agree with the panels recommendation but of course only a piece of the recommendation is stated in this article. Actually, the recommendation say if you have no family history and/or no evidence of possible breast cancer, thne it is not necessary to have a yearly routine breast mammography. It does not say that you cannot have one. Now I know there are some cases where some women who were asymptomatic and went in for a routine mammogram and after further testing, were diagnosed with breast cancer, but the percentage of that happening is low.
If this had come up after Obamacare passed do you think DHHS would have come out against it. You have really just seen the future under Obamacare and it isn't pretty.
This is step 1 of many.
Call it fear-mongering, call it obstruction, call it fantasy. Call it whatever you like.
Health Care rationing won't just explode overnight. It will reveal its ugly face slowly, through events just like this. That's why more than 65% of America doesn't want this Health Care bill rammed down our throats.
Whoops! Round 1 in the socialist's attempts to ration health care looks to have misfired.
This is a big bruhaha over nothing! If a woman wants to get mammograms at 40 that is fine. If not then she can listen to the recommendations.
Yes "some" cancer might be caught if baseline at 40 but some might not. More logical would be that if cancer runs in your family you should have a base mammogram at 16! If your family has no cancer then waiting till 50 is reasonable. In addition, women are not exclusive to breast cancer. Yes men can have breast cancer!
You can't tell me that the timing of this panel's report was coincidental. From what I understand, more women than men are in favor of health care reform and this report/recommendation is designed to scare them into opposing the legislation.
Someone needs to look into the makeup of this panel and how many members have ties to the health insurance industry or the Republican right wing.
Argueably the FIRST step in the gov't take over of your health care. Some would also call this the first step roward Death Panels. The quoted 1 in 1900 women who would die as a result of following this "recommendation" are obviously not needed in the obamanation.
Who's next?
The uproar you hear concerning this panel's findings and recommendations stems from successful conservative attempts to link this august advisory body to the health care debate. After all, it was the previous administration who appointed these folk, and now it is their neo-con guardians who are happy to saddle the Obama government with the mantra of rationed health care( i.e. mammograms and pap smears). Let the word go forth, "death panels" are the domain of the GOP not the DNC.
Democrap and Obummer care is not what we want !
These panel members were appointed by George W. Bush. Why doesn't CNN report that fact?!
Who is the task force working for. The insurance companies using these recommendations as a scare tactic about changes if the government gets into health care coverage or the government practicing? Either way we lose. There can be death panels on both sides.
Just the begining folks, CHANGE I don't want.
Yet another reason everyone needs access to health care!
I found a lump in my breast after feeling pain for several weeks. I am without insurance so I called Livaware (liv.com) and was referred to a local clinic. After almost a dozen phone calls and being given 2 other internal numbers to call, leaving countless messages and waiting for a call back or an appointment I continue to hope and pray for some consideration. It's been 3 weeks...
I have spent the last 2 years working as a temp in the same position for a government office...
You people who say Bush...blah blah blah have Bush derangement syndrome and have likely never had a high level job in your life. The government led by all parties establish commissions like this one all the time. The fact the commission was established under Bush is irrelevant. it is the recommendations that are at issue and they were clearly influenced by the current administration. If Bush were in office you would have a point but you don't. And to those who say "it was leaked to hep defeat health care," why on earth would the Obama administration leak or publish a recommendation that hurt it's own cause? it wouldn't, and you are just stupid. This is what Obamacare will lead to. There will be thousands of recommendations you will never hear of that will ration and limit care and ultimately cost lives. You voted for change, and you will get the Statist world.
Do people not realize that THIS PANEL WAS STAFFED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION!
Before you start all your whining about how this is the first step to "rationing" of healthcare – which, by the way, you're in idiot if you don't realize that this is already the main profit strategy of health insurance – please realize that this "task force" are a bunch of Bushees. The Obama Administration has said repeatedly they don't agree with it, just like they don't agree with a lot of Bush's failed Anti-American policies.
Everyone better get ready because this is just The Start of things to come !!
Health care workers know better than any of you all how often you need to get a breast exam. Stop acting like any of you know what you're talking about. Chances are none of you are getting them every year anyway.
Once again the people opposed to health care reform are using fear and smear to make points.
First, it was a Bush-appointed panel that came up with these recommendations. Second, the Obama Administration rejected them almost immediately. Finally, the government is always going to support broader health-care practices than private insurers because the government does not have to make a profit.
The fact that health care reform opponents can't come up with any legitimate reasons to oppose the health care bill tell us how fatuous their arguments really are.
Hopefully this will be the last report from the Bush administration.
This task force should have heard expert testimony from my friends, Barbara (age 30), Mary (age 30), Joanne (age 40), Aunt Edith (age 60), but they all died from breast cancer. Friend Marti (age 50) and Aunt Phyllis (age 60) are now breastless, but are survivors thanks to mammagrams.
I want to know the following:
WHO empaneled the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force?
WHO is on the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force and how were they selected? What are their names, occupations, etc?
WHO pays/paid the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force members, and/or whom (what companies) do they represent?
WHAT were their EXACT instructions and intentions of/for the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force?
WHEN was this U.S. Preventive Services Task Force empaneled?
Was it During the current or a previous administration?
WHY has the media failed so utterly in providing this information?
Without knowing who started this ball rolling, why they did, who they REALLY represent (OBVIOUSLY not American WOMEN), who they are, Etc., Etc., ETC... It is impossible to get anything but hysteria, resentment, fear and panic from women and those of us who love and care for them.
Is that all you really want from us?
I believe the timing on this report was intentional but not by the Obama Administration. This panel sounds like it is trying to make it harder for healthcare reform. Who appointed this panel? I bet they are a bunch of Bush groupies appointed in the last days of the Bush administration. Bush certainly did his best to undermine the Environmental Protection Agency and I bet he did the same with this group.
This panel was appointed by President Bush. It's an ongoing panel – nothing new. But two of it's members work for insurance companies. Why isn't anyone asking why this information was released now and why it was slanted to hurt health care reform?
My grandmother died in 2005 of breast cancer. I was only 41 that year and discovered four lumps in each breast by a mammogram. I had to have a lumpecotomy since they were against the chest wall. You could not feel these lumps since they were so deep. I would have died if these recommendations were followed. Women all ready get poor health care as it is compaired to men. What about the two teenagers this year 15 and 16 that was diagnosed with breast cancer? Most people I have met that have had breast cancer have been in their early 40's. My sister in law was in her 40's when diagnosed with breast cancer. Where in the study is the average age of a person who has breast cancer?
Just the beginning. When freed of the necessity to answer to the people by passage of this bill, you can bet on more and more rationing and government control of our lives.
Maybe all the tests aren't completely necessary, but they are ordered to protect doctors from lawsuits. Now, with rationing, doctors will still be subject to suits while unable to order protective screenings because they won't be covered by insurance. And despite St. Barack's promise in his address to Congress on September 19th, there is nothing in these bills that protects doctors, hospitals and the like from those who would use the tort procedures as a potential 2nd chance lottery ticket.
I wonder what the gender makeup of this committee is, how many women were on it or is it the " good old boys " newwork in action again. Wonder if any of the people on this committee has had a wife, daughter, mother with brest cancer. If they did maybe they would have a different view of the situation. How about asking the women in their
20's, 30's and 40's that have had brest cancer – how did they find it?
Instead of being proactive against brest cancer they folks just said it's something that doesn't happen to younger women because no one will get it until they are in their 50's.
Obama care will give us more of this!
Anyone who would advocate the killing of inconvenient babies will not hesitate to refuse costly tests which will result in cancer deaths!
Two weeks after my 38th birthday I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I had a mastectomy 23 years ago November 12.. Since then both my aunt and cousin on my father's side have had breast cancer. My cousin battled off and on for 8 years and was in her 40's when she died. My 43 year old sister was just diagnosed with a pre-cancerous condition. I fear for her 9 year old daughter and my grand-daughter. The family history started with me. Until then no one had ever had a breast cancer in our family. I have a friend who had a double mastectomy when she was 23 – again no family history. She is also a survivor. My son has a friend whose mother died from breast cancer when they were in high school – she wasn't 40.
We have come so far in diagnosing and treating breast cancer and now women are being told when to and when not to have mammograms. I guess the idiots making the recommendtions feel we don't have to worry about it – unfortunately we are the ones who are going to be doing the dying – not them. obviously they haven't had to endure a breast cancer diagnosis in their family. If they think their wives, sisters, mothers and daughters are immune – they are sadly mistaken.
I don't regret voting for Obama, but he should know that Michelle and his daughters are just as suseptable to this as any ones else.
This is just the first step in rationaling of medical care. The reality is that there aren't enough health care professionals to take care of everyone. Does the bill address that?
Health care reform is an imperative if we are to contain costs and expand services to poor and lower middle class Americans. For those of you worried that the government will ration care more than the insurance companies now do, here is a simple suggestion: do not vote for Republicans because it is they who will shortchange the country on health care, as the Bush-appointed panel tried to do here before being stopped by the Obama Administration.
There is no Obama care and there probably won't be. So what is your next step Republicans? How are you going to solve this problem? The panels will be here with or without a government run option. Is it going to be more of the same due to your obstructionism? Watch out Republicans. The American people will not be happy with you!!!
I don't want to bring breast cancer to a political debate, but it has to be brought here. This is a Democratic agenda. One that Jon Corzine tried to pin on Chris Christie but wasn't the case. Democrats were in an uproar when they though Christie was against Mammogram coverage but that was not the case at all. Now that dems are being relaxed about it, it is OK?
Youhave a Democratic panel telling you Mammograms can be checked at 50. That is disgustingly wrong. How could anyone let Democrats control a new health bill? There bill will enable crap like this to take place.
Did you guys (gals) read the recomendations? It's over 40 IF you have no family history of cancer. Breat cancer is largely genetic. As I recall, they revised the recomendations because the decreased screenings only increased the chance of death for an average woman by 1/2000, or .05%.
This is precisely why our healthcare system is off the rails, everyone is so terrified and wants constant testing, which doesn't come cheap. If this recomendation infuriates you, I reccomend you stop driving, as your chance of dying in a car accident are 20 times higher than the chances of dying due to reducing yearly mammograms.
I am disappointed with American women if indeed this poll is correct.
What amazes me is their inability to understand that these statistics are dealing with populations not individuals, These are guidelines for health professionals and women still can discuss their individual situation with their doctors. Most women are not qualified to determine the behavior of various cancers and lack basic information about physiology. IJean McLain
Again, all you Lib/Statist Bush haters who say the commission was established under Bush are just plain ignorant.
All US governments led by both parties establish commissions like this one all the time. The fact the commission was established under Bush is irrelevant. It is the recommendations that are at issue and they were clearly influenced by the current administration. If Bush were in office you would have a point but you don't.
And to those who say "it was leaked to help defeat health care," ask yourselves why on earth would the Obama administration leak or publish a recommendation that hurt it's own cause? It wouldn't.
Finally, those of you who refuse to see this is what Obama/Statist care will lead to are frankly blind and unfortunately ruining my country.
So let's go ahead an throw LOGIC out the window and just focus on Republican HYPOCRISY:
* there is no such thing as gov't healthcare even with HCR the public option is just an option and won't be available for 5 years
* Tighty Righties don't want "freeloaders" to get health care coverage but now they want to pay for unnecessary procedures?
* Isn't carving abortions out of HCR the gov't deciding what procedures women can get?
* Yeah right the rich, white, racist, male party is real supportive of women's health issues.
Yes, and the pap recommendation too. These idiotic recommendations are from private businesses. People please use your brain. Obviously they are trying to make you convinced that getting proper health care is bad, and failing to stop the federal gvt, they are now spreading lies. Don't listen to it, and don't support it. We ALL know that these recommendations are completely idiotic.
Oh PLEASE – The Obama crowd wants to blame THIS on Bush too? GIVE ME a break!! Get ready ladies – OUR health options will decline under Obamacare and these types of recommendations. I lived with socialized medicine in France for a number of years. When my mother-in-law needed serious medical care – she quickly left Paris and headed to the US for her care. Down with this recommendation and down with Obamacare!!!!!
Well of course they disagree!! Woman are very afraid of not catching breast or cervical cancer and like the comfort of having a test done every year even if it's not necessary to catch cancer. I can't think of a good analogy but with most other things I'm sure we could be more lax about, like changing the oil less often in our car for example wouldn't create a stir. However, it's not up to the patient to dictate what policies they have, it's up to their doctors and if doctors say they don't need it every year they should listen since after all they are not their own doctor.
Both the House and Senate bills create a number of health care committees and panels to make recommendations just like this one. And the recommendations of a new committee in the House can actually be made into law that is even enforced on private insurance plans if the Secretary of Health and Human resources approves them. That would be Sebelius who says this report on mammograms chould not be dismissed. All you fools who support the House and Senate versions of health care reform, is this what you want? This is just a taste of what will happen if these liberal progressive versions of health care reform are passed. Rationing and the lose of the freedom of personal decision making regarding our own health care is what will result from these bills.
Five year survival rates for breast cancer for early detection is 98%. Five year survival rates for late detection of breast cancer is 26%. Women are justifiably angry. The government funded a study that takes away or will take way their choice to have yearly mammograms. It's easy to say that statistically it is acceptable to have these people die, but not so easy when it could be you.
QUOTE: "In what could be bad news for the White House and congressional Democrats as they attempt to calm fears an overhaul of the nation's health care system would result in rationing,"
WHO SAID??? Who wrote this article? All of a sudden all of this STUFF is coming out and the current Health Care Reform bill is being BLAMED for it!!!
Could all of the HATERSstop and think why NONE of this came out the past eight years while BUSHwack and his sidekick inCHENey was in office???? MAYBE it's because it's an attempt by the insurance companies to "secretly" disrupt the BILL because they want to KEEP their high prices and fat bonuses while PEOPLE ARE DYING!! The insurance companies already DOI NOT cover pre-existing ailments.... Have we forgotten about that!!!
Here's the beauty of our country
Disagree? Rec's make you feel uncomfortable?
Go more often.
We are adults. Keep informed about your health and be proactive about it.
Simple
The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF), first convened by the U.S. Public Health Service in 1984, and since 1998 sponsored by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ).
I believe a guy by the name of Reagan was President then.
Can someone answer this question? Will the Senators and Congressman have the same health care as the rest of the country?
Those of you talking about "early rationing" are just plain IGNORANT or worse OPPORTUNISTIC. Independent bodies have been giving recommendations for this very kind of things for decades and under every adniministration. Why CNN is asking woman who likely are not medical experts or statisticians what they think about a recommendation from people who know what they are talking about is beyond me. If people could get a free mamogramm every month, they would...just because they think it sounds good. C'mon people, Just like with anything else, CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN....its a recommendation, NOTHING MORE.
The disagreement with the recommendations is by no means surprising. But people need to realize that there are negative aspects with performing mammograms that earily. Many produce false positives which lead to unnecessary anxiety for the patient and additional use of already limitted medical resources. There is even the possiblity that the additional tests lead to actually developing cancer due to the radiation.
Do these mammograms for this age group help detect cancers early? Absolutely. And in a perfect world we wouldn't have to worry about the added costs. But this world is far from perfect. And the panel's recommendation, and I stress recommendation, is that the overall benefit of all the cancers caught early does not out weigh the overall negatives of doing the tests on this age group.
And I stress recommendation because that is all it is. All this will do is force the conversation between the patient and physician that the negatives of screening at this age could out weigh the benefits. But it will still be the patient's choice.
Personally, I blame Bush. Oh, and Cheney.
Excuse me........but did the first line of this
article use the word "government panel" ????
Maybe...just maybe...Sarah Palin isn't near
as ignorant as the media would have you all
believe. Government panel recommends less
screening for women in at risk age ????????
His whole Presidency has been a trial balloon......
Yawn, lets do the check for the rightwingers who will probably have to be the recipients of the public option.
Rationing Healthcare (Even though the private sector already does this, oh, no, we are fearful of what the government will do).
Communism (Rightwingers don't know what this word means but you betcha they'll use it).
Socialism (Another word rightwingers don't know what this word means but you betcha they'll use it).
Random references to the Holocaust (Hey, another event that America claims to care about until you read their hate crime statistics, and Jews are the most victimized by hate crimes in America).
Okay. I'm done.
Obama just wants to take, sorry spread the wealth, from the old whites and give to the young minorities. What will happen when there aren't enough whites to pay? Will the asians take over that role? Well, we'll find out in California.
Rationing is part of it. However the other part is doing what science supports not what patients think they need. DOing what patients think they need from medications, to tests, to treatments is part of what got us into the mess we are in now. Take care of yourself, tell your healthcare professional what you think you need and have an open conversation about the issue. We in the USA can do better with less. Sad that many in the public do not understand the science behind how medications and treatments really work, or in many cases do not work.
Remember, most people in this country voted for change and you are now getting in. You asked for it and now you got it so blame yourself if you do not like it.
This is a great example of why healtcare costs are rising. Women are getting screened when the chances of finding something real are very remote. Plus false positives lead to unnecessary treatment. If you want to get a mamogram more often than the recommendation, then fine. But that cost shouldn't be passed along to the rest of us via higher insurance premiums. The same type of recommendations were suggested for men regarding prostate cancer.
All of these recommendations are insane and designed to make females mistrustful of health care reform. Plus, it has taken so much to make women aware of breast cancer prevention and screening why would you want to reverse that? Plus, you want mammograms to be negative, that is part of preventative diagnoses. Seems to me like those advocates against health care prevention only want people to get screening when results are positive and the disease has taken over the body . Then they want you to 'die quickly'. That is the plain and ugly truth.
This is health care rationing. No wonder so many women are unhappy with it. If you want to cut healthcare costs use tort reform and allow competition across state lines, don't ration healthcare and pretend that you aren't.
Looks like we made a BIG mistake last year when we elected Obama.
welcome to state run healthcare
How can people think that a gov't run health plan will run any more smoothly than recovery.gov, cash for clunkers, the housing refinance assitance programs put in place by this administration? Even so, in those cases money and property are at stake. In this case the stakes are much greater.
My 41 year old niece just lost her 3-year long battle with breast cancer.
It was stage 4 before it was diagosed. Had she had mammograms the cancer could have been diagnosed earlier and she may be alive today to take care of her three children, the youngest being 5. I'm for given mammograms earlier not later
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u lie
This is a warning............and people should wake up and understand what government run health care REALLY means.
Welcome to the world of Obamacare "U.S. Preventive Services Task Force" soon to be re-named the U.S COST Reduction Task Force" mamogram testing is just the first to go, soon, no more annual dental checkups, annual physicals, etc The cost of healthcare will go down by order of the government whether it kills us or not.
for those who asked – half of the doctors on the task force that made this statement are women.
the team was started in 1984.
They make recommendations and do case studies – that's all.
you people need to stop with the fear and political craziness.
– from the study it says:
"So, what does this mean if you are a woman in your 40s? You should talk to your doctor and make an informed decision about whether a mammography is right for you based on your family history, general health, and personal values."
The issue isn't a Democrat Panel or a Republican Panel...the problem is that it's a GOVERNMENT Panel...and this is the kind of shoddy work that we have seen with every other Government Entity, from the Post Office to Amtrack.
Why does everyone have this deep seeded faith that we won't continue to see more and more of these types of problems and we continue to hand over Healthcare to a bunch of a politicians?
The commission report is exactly what I want from my government: recommendations. They recommend, I decide. What I don't want is my government telling me that I have to do something or that I can't do something. The mandate that everyone get health insurance is a great example. It is my decision as to whether or not I spend my money on health insurance. If you think you should have two mammograms a year from the age of 25, then you should decide that (but don't expect me to pay for it). If you don't want to ever have a mammogram then that is your choice also. Let the government recommend away. Then you decide what's best for you and I'll decide what's best for me.
I will say this, the recommendation to not do self exams is stupid. People should always be empowered to look after their own best interests. I would imagine the reason is that it is highly unlikely that you will ever find anything. However, no one is more responsible for you than you are, so you should always take matters into your own hands, so to speak.
Under a public option, opinions like this become part of practice. The public option will have to use a board like this to determine which procedures it covers or not. When one organization controls the majority of the health care market they need such a basis to make such decisions and they don't have to worry about competitive pressures. While there may be some logic in their reasoning, that logic is lost on the women who have been saved by such tests.
It is funny how people who are worried about banks being too big to fail are rushing to create a health insurance program that will be too big to fail. In either case, guess who gets to bail it out?
I do not understand how and why everything that happens in this world is blamed on Obama. This task force is not a white house recommendation. The Obama administrationhas stated again and again that women should keep doing what they are doing. Obama is trying to get Americans covered. His mother died of cancer, thus, I think he understands the need for mammograms and their usefulness. Stop blaming the man for everything wrong in our lives. This section should be called, leave your "whining complaints," Not comments!!!
Did Sarah Palin say something about death
panels. Oh....sorry.....she said "government
death panels" How far fetched does that seem
now, boys and girls ????????
this is what america is all about now socialism get used to this nazi government telling you what you can and can not have,,,they will tell you when to die,,,and when to put your children to death this boy is not my president
Get used to it ladies. Seniors bend over and grab your ankles. Tax payers empty your wallet. That is Obummie care. Message to Dems, fix the small amount of people that don't have coverage and can't afford it and leave the 85-90% of the rest of us alone.
If the government takeover of health care goes through, expect more of the same.
Their solution:
Do nothing to cut costs until there is tragedy then complain how they need more money.
the panel is making very serious health recommendations for women that could lead to insurance coverage payments. Both my sister and I have had breast cancer. Both of us were diagnosed early and treated early because of the current recommendations. Neither one of us fall into a high risk category. Neither my mother or grandmother have had breast cancer. What's more important, early detection or cost savings?
These recommendations came from Bush appointees (total 16, all are from previous administration ) did some thing smell bad like death penalty yes
"I am disappointed with American women if indeed this poll is correct.
What amazes me is their inability to understand that these statistics are dealing with populations not individuals."
Sorry... I don't want to be a statistic.
Hateful selfish fear rules America. If this continues, the country will be bankrupt within 5 years. Blame "fear" for this, not the President. The mantra of America today is "I WANT"
I really doubt the intentions and the timing of this recommendations from this so called goverment panel. Sounds to me like someone in that group is trying to undermine the success of the Health Care bill by the Democrats and give the Republicans something to talk about.
"I don't regret voting for Obama, but he should know that Michelle and his daughters are just as suseptable to this as any ones else."
Right – but Michelle and HIS daughters will never have to worry about not getting a mammogram, now will they? Believe me, he doesn't care about Jane Q. Citizen.
Well, all of you mindless, gullible Obama voters wanted change. Well YOU GOT IT! You wanted so-called "free healthcare." Well YOU GOT IT! This is only the beginning. Once this SOCIALIST NIGHTMARE makes it through the democrat congress and gets signed into law, they'll probably bump the insured mammogram age up to 55, or maybe even 60. Forget about knee and hip replacements. (Here's your cane.) You say you need a heart by-pass? Well get in line. It'll be three years or so. Looks like the FEEL-GOOD-DON'T-SWEAT-THE-DETAILS ELECTION of 2008 is having some pretty dire consequences.
Here's how I see this. I find it very suspicious that the findings for mammograms and pap exams comes out right in the middle of the health care debate. I'd follow the money to see who these people really are. These recommendations seem to be made to scare women into thinking this is what a public option would be like. Last week in another news source there was a headline that said something like insurance companies will continue to pay for screenings - making them out to be some sort of hero. This is all very suspicious considering it is usually the woman in the family that makes the decison on what insurance to pick, etc. So scare the woman into thinking the public option is bad. Shame on whoever is behind this. Don't fall for these schemes.
This is awesome. I can't wait to see all the liberal posters here lambaste women as being dumb and out of touch because they don't agree with what the administration and Congress is telling them. I wonder how that will come off. I can see it now..."You women are just plain stupid. You are fear monger and haters. From now on you will be known as the gender of NO. If you can't see that this administration is trying to look out for you and your health, then you must be racist. Go back to you cooking and cleaning stupid Barbie wannabes."...lol.
How do you save money in Obamacare....fail to provide services and drive the cost out of the program to the individual. Mandatory to have health insurance which does not pay for squat. Great plan...I think not.
It seems as if this was done in order to ease the pay and financial burden on the insurance and Pharma liability for NEW HEALTHCARE. Funny how when it ws profitable it was recommended every year, now all of a sudden its not??? The chickens are coming hime to roost. NO HEALTHCARE, POOR HEALTHCARE REFORM will unleashed a wave of REVOLUTION ON AMERICA and that might be a Good thing for the DEMOCRATS people need to GET ANGRY, GET PUMPED UP so OBAMA and the Democrats have Political coverage to PUSH THROUGH REAL CHANGE!
We will see both, the Dems and Repubs slump in the polls and no matter what the issue. It is plain to see that the people of America are becoming more and more disgusted with all those in government. It seems that government just can't get anything right, even when the subject is a no brainer.
This mammagraphy story is scaring people because people are too ignorant to understand it.
This report says that you should go talk to your doctor and decide together whether you should have a mammogram at age 40 to 50. If you decide not to do that, you are not being stupid. If you decide to do it, you are not being stupid. But they report, you decide.
I don't know why Americans are so lazy and ignorant. Politicians always tell the truth don't they? They always say how smart the American people are.
Welcome to your future under Obama care........ration and eliminate life saving tests.
I will have mammogram every year no matter what Obama Health Care recommendations are. I've been a Democratic party supporter for many years. Now I wake up. I have been very disappointed at those so called 'changes' that will increase bureaucracies, corruption, and cost. Big government will be a failure.
When the controversy several years ago was the risk of causing breast cancer from repeated radiation exposure there was no economic issue. Now this panel has more data and the statistics say what many physicans said before to many to early is not worth the risk to the patient. We face the same delima with MRI. They are over used and ordered many times before the physican ever sees the patient. As one wise physican said "would you have the engine in your car rebuilt before a mechanic looks at it?" Patients can die from the contrast used for MRIs.
First comes the stated intent/purpose, then the action. The rationing is already happening. Now that he shock is over, they can begin to filter it into the system(s).
This is exactly how the Dems intend to gain "cost reductions". It is simply a matter of denying services, where services are needed.
Any idiot can get cost savings, that way, at the expense of people, of course.
Here is a case of the media taking one set of polling data and carrying forward a story about a supposed controversy related to the health care plan. How was that leap made? Bad journalism if you ask me.
This is significant but only one part of the democrats' demise. Sarah Palin is on tour and setting the record straight. While we were once Hillary democrats, we voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. We will definitely support Sarah as we did Bob McConnel, new Governor of Virginia. Beyond this, the economy is in free fall. FDIC is reporting that "problem banks" are at the highest rate in 16 years; this comes after many bank failures already and bailing out the big banks. Many, many Americans have mortgages that are higher than the value of their homes. And, jobs continue to be lost as seen in significantly growing unemployment claims. Yes, the democrats blew it big time.
It's kind of sad my aunt who is 36 had some tenderness in her breast and had mamogram, guess what cancer. There is no history of breast cancer in my family. So I guess she should have waited about 14 more years oh wait she probably would have been dead.
Welcome to the liberal Democratic death squads.
This is the change you voted for.
When healthcare passes, procedures that go against the regulations of the death panels will not be covered by insurance.
So if you are happy with your current insurance, too bad.
Kathleen Sibelius either lied about the task force's connection to Health Care Reform legislation or she was honestly unaware of it. Either way this doesn't inspire confidence. Be very afraid.
As usual, much ado about nothing. If you want a mammogram, get one. If you want to wait until you're 50, then wait. Life is a crap shoot and the only thing you can do is get on with it. Nobody knows what the correct decision is on the matter and it depends on the individual's health, the genes they inherit and innumerable factors affecting their ability to deal with cancers as they arise. Sort of reminds me of the H1N1 hysteria. What does this story have to do with the Democrats anyway? However, I'm sure that if S. Palin comes out in favor of early testing for mammograms, her ratings will increase. I regret saying this, but most of us should try to understand why we're such idiots, and quit worrying about such nonsense.
Welcome to a glimpse of what will happen if this health care bill passes. Cmon people, spell it with me....R-A-T-I-O-N-I-N-G.
Comments by liberals on the health care issue clearly demonstrate that out public school systems have pitifully failed. Of course Obama separated himself from the recommendations as soon as he saw the public's reaction. But, of course, he and the liberal media can still try to fall back on the tried and true 'blame it on Bush'.
When the "Science Czar" believes in genocide...John Holdren.....why is anyone surprised??
I don't have a lot of faith in mammograms as I have had 9 false readings all of which turned out to be false for which I am grateful. Biopsies were recommended and instead I went for a different look through ultra sound and it was determined to be false. Surely they can come up with better technology to solve everyones concern and still save on addl tests, biopsies and or surgery. I hope so anyway....
It seems as though everyone foprgets this is a panel appointed by Busgh and NOT Obama. its amazing how that gets swept under the carpet is'nt it???
This illustrates the problem of letting Government expand more into Health Care. 70% of the women will want something so it will be added. 65% of women will push for abortion and it will be added. The COST will never be contained as soon as Government and politics get involved in a process. The Government does not even have the guts now to stop the 20% fraud in the current system and the treatment of illegals w/o checking their citizenship.
Yes Bush was a horrible President. But Obama (whom I voted for) is turning out to be just as bad, but in very different ways. Obama is spending this country into further debt, with no positive benefits to show for any of his careless spendings. You can't have an economical recovery if we don't create jobs. Jobs is what stimulates the economy, not Cash for Clunkers, bailouts for Wall-street, and Cap & Trade proposals. Government run healthcare is exactly that, the government will determine what is best for patients and not the doctors. The government is trying to ration healthcare. There is nothing harmful about having too many mammograms. There can be something deadly by not having one frequent enough. Bottom line, is the insurance and government is trying to reign in costs by reducing the benefits. Same thing with the article about the man in the coma for 23 years while he was consious and awake. Government run healthcare is not good for any of us.
This panel was formed in 1984 during Ronald Reagan's term. Don't expect these guidelines to stand.
As for those who are concerned about rationing of health care, insurance companies already do plenty of that. They dictate which doctors we can use, which facilities they will allow us to use, which medications they will allow and what procedures will be covered. If that isn't rationing, what is?
They've gone up on the cost of this rationed care so much that many small businesses can no longer afford to offer health coverage.
And lawmakers want to protected their exemption from antitrust laws! What's the point of antitrust laws if the worst violators are given exemptions?
When will Obama apologist realize that 'blame Bush' has run out of steam? Even if Bush appointed this panel, the recommendations have been written into the DEMOCRATIC health care bill as the basis for what does and does not get covered. The Dems could have disavowed the study, but instead they wrote it into law. Time to BLAME OBAMA. Health care rationing is real, and this is the tip of the iceberg.
While promoting health care insurance via the government (essentially, a tax increase), the government promotes "less health care" that kills people (women, whose health has been traditionally neglected). Women are smart consumers of health care (much smarter than us, men) and they will not fall for such recommendations. When they learn about other aspects of health care by the government, their traditional bias towards (seemingly compassionate) democrats will evaporate!!!!
Democrats believe they are the only one supporting the right of women to take care of their body when it comes to abortion, well the right is true for early deadly cancer detection as well, and even more so! Join the pro-women-life group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ration mamograms and pay for abortions...both have the end result of people dying. Sounds like Palin was right about those death panels after all.
this is the start of Obama's death panels....denying mammograms.....
There will be more denials of coverage coming......time to stop Obamacare NOW.
Get used to it people. This is a government-appointed panel. Can you spell "rationing"? It is truly hard to fathom how you Liberal idiots still defend the Democratic leadership supporting a government takeover of Healthcare! Blind sheep caught up in false promises and ideology. Pitiful.
You people need to understand the facts. First start with reading the health care legislation. What this panel did was make a recommendation? It is only a recommendation now. The house healthcare bill gives this panel the authority to go being making
recommendation to enacting policy. Since the bill gives the authority to dictate the language of private insurance company policies, this will affect everyone and not just government plans.
CNN headline news today reported a "bombshell" on this topic. They stated that the Task force panel that came up with reducing ammograms and pap smears is funded by Obama's health and human services and the senate health care bill states specifically that the task force recommendations for preventative health care measures would be included in the new health care....Obamacare is going to be paid for with the lives of women they feel are worth tossing away. FBO.
The people here posting that this is from the Bush Administration, wake up. None of these results would be published without the blessing of the WH. What is so disgusting is instead of taking this news neutrally, it turns into a bash session against Bush and Obama. Can we just focus on the report and how to move forward from there? It would be nice if folks here with blood-lust on each side would just take a step back and help focus on solving the problem instead of constantly pointing fingers. Too much knee-jerk political hatred here.
Only problem is that the recommendations WILL become the "standard". Especially with this administration trying to get rid of sick people. How about those "death panels"? You wanted him, you got him. Now deal with it!
And how many of these women were health care workers and actually UNDERSTAND why these recommendations from the USPSTF was instituted? 0%?
This study and the comments provided simply go to show that we deserve to go down the toilet as a nation. We elect complete idiots and expect results? Yes, I am referencing both Bush and Obama.
Ladies and Gentlemen......it seems that for most a "brick wall has to fall on you" to ever get it!....Obama and his Liberal cronies WILL control your health care decisions.....this is only a flash from what is to come when they take over health care!
Vote them all out in 2010 and 2012!
I'm over 50, have a history of cancer in my family, and have smoked in the past. There are things like Afghanistan where the gov't has a final say, and then there's my health where I HAVE THE FINAL SAY. Here's a thought: do the research and do what's right for YOU. For all the talk about unwanted gov't involvement, we sure like to sit back and blame the gov't for not making the "right" decision for us. We're individuals, with individual circumstances, take responsibility for your health maintenance for crike's sakes, AND STOP FALLING FOR THE FEAR AND SMEAR!!!!
Wow, I guess that trial balloon for rationing fell to earth pretty hard, didn't it?
For those of you that think this is a good recommendation, let me tell you a short story. This past September 2009 something made me demand my 31 year old daughter get a mammogram. Her primary doctor refused to give a referal as he stated 31year old women do not get a mammogram. I had even agreed to pay whatever the clinic charged. After several visits with the primiary physican, he finally gave in. Now my 31 year old daughter had NO symptoms, no lump in her breast, in fact she had absolutely no reason to have a mammogram. End result, she had cancer in her right breast. She had a double mastectomy on October 9, 2009. Her cancer specialist told us had she waited a year she would have been in big trouble. Don't let anyone tell you NO when you want a mammogram.
Public health care should be rationed, and it should take the form that the GOP fears. It won't work otherwise.
In fairness, the Feds should also repeal ERISA coverage of health plans. That alone will bring down the cost of private health insurance dramatically (and improve its quality) as insurers and employers won't be required to force the healthy to subsidize the porkers.
This is the way medical guidelines are set. The goverment committess recommend. CMS creates the guidelines for reimbursement, whether to cover or be noncovered. Then PRIVATE insurance follows CMS guidelines. So, it usually starts with the goverment since they manage to "save money" with their policies. People must understand, insurance companies just follow CMS guidelines most of the time.
the start of rationing.
it starts with the females.
Obama care is already starting? Yikes.
(My sister caught her cancer at 25. After chemo, radiation and hormone treatments, she is cancer-free)
An independent panel publishes a recommendation that 3/4 of American women oppose, and some of you posters blame GEORGE BUSH? How long has it taken you all to create this strange universe you inhabit?
Seioulsy, do you guys at CNN even listen to what John Sterwart and Lou Dobbs talked about last week?
the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force was started in 1984, according to thier website. The issues of when or when not to get exams have nothing to do with the Obama Admin, and you know that yet your word the article in such a fashion.
Sebelius is not being honest when she says they are just guidelines and aren't coverage or payment decisions. National recommendations and guidelines are what insurance companies use to form their rules for what they will cover and what they will not cover.
It is very possible and, dare I say probable, that these guidelines will be used to shut women out of having mammograms under Obama's heathcare. Even though the administration may be distancing themselves from the guidelines now, they could use them as rationale in the future to "ration" care for women. They will have no other choice than to deny care to one group or another because there simply will not be enough money to give people the level of care we have now in America.
Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill. This was a scientific study that makes recommendations based on statistics.There are other factors that are considered before making policy. I think Secretary Sebelius handled this report well in her comments a few days ago.
I'm sure there are interests that will try to politicize this issue for their own political purposes. However, one should consider the source and take it from there.
I'll feel comforted when they decide not to pay for penile implants and give Viagra scripts to men (it affects their health and well being). What a bunch of crap.
Yep, let's blame Bush who is no longer president. The bottom line is this is the first taste of what we can expect from government run health care no matter who is in charge. Everything the government touches gets more expensive, more inconvenient, and less efficient.
By the way, not to mention dangerous for all of us.
No question about it, if obama can save money by eliminating these sorts of tests then the gov can insure more illegals with the money they will save once they take over healthcare.
Next up, babies don't need innoculations until they are 21.
It's amazing how many stupid people voice their opinions on these posts without having any facts. Also amazing is that many of these stupid people are associated with the Republican party, talk radio hosts, Fox news, Palin, tea partiers, birthers, Klansmen and other deranged groups.
The recommendation is idiotic - every American woman knows someone who has died of breast cancer before age 50. There is an equally idiotic recommendation against regular PSAs for men. My father's doctor followed it and now dad has stage 4 prostate cancer. Any decent health plan should pay for mammograms and PSAs - both slow-growing cancers that are curabe if detected early.
FYI folks,
Bush is no longer President. Time to stop blaming him.
Obama is the acting president. start blaming him.
If Obama didn't like the panel, he should have signed an executive order disbanning it. But that probably would not have looked good on the Oprah show.
It is time for you Obamadrones to start holding him accountable.
The Obama Adminstration did not write this recommendation. And it is just that: a recommendation, not policy.
To everyone here who's posting otherwise, stop LYING!
In the current bill before the Senate, if passed, this task force will be making recommendations that will determine policy for diagnostic and treatment procedures. This is a preview of health policy under a government controlled system.
What about all those health insurance companies who deny treatment because it's going to cost them too much?
What do you call that, all you right wingnuts out there trying to make this recommendation into some kind of example of the health care reform currently under consideration?
The right wingnuts of America need to start pulling their heads out and think for themselves instead of listening to Limbaugh and all the other health insurance company lackeys who want to maintain the status quo of paying insurance company CEOs on average $14 million a year and who continually put profit before anyone's health!!!
This is what a group of scientist come up w/ from looking at the data at large. The question is would insurance people use this to exclude people? W. the new bill, they can't, so this is a non issue. However, if the bill isn't passed, insurance companies might use this new data to exclude coverage, since they will find all kinds of reasons to exclude.
The study was probably done by men!
This whole report has just been promoted completely out of proportion! It was just a "recommendation", but was never deemed mandatory!! This is what happens these days in the news media outlet. A simple story turns into a COMPLICATED STORY, and EVERYONE ends up being confused! Any woman with common sense will KNOW she MUST talk to her Doctor about her OWN medical needs at ANY GIVEN TIME!! This report certainly wasn't put through Congress and made law (Thank God)!! The way things move in Congress these days, it would a zillion months before the debate could even begin on this subject.
I'm a 2nd year med student in phoenix and one of the USPSTF panelists is a professor of mine. What this poll shows is that the general public does not have a complete understanding of what this recommendation actually means, or how the decision was made to issue it. The panel issues recommendations based on the best available data. This study was a collaboration by teams from top institutions, Harvard, Yale, & Stanford included. It showed that mammograms aren't as a reliable for screening breast cancer for women in their 40s as they are for older women. Their recommendation was that women in their 40s don't have to be routinely screened but can consult with their doctor to decide what screening regimen would be best for them.
It's clear that this misunderstanding has been cynically seized upon by those who would prefer to scare the public to score political points. This study was initiated well before President Obama came into office, a fact which the people shouting "Rationing!" are conveniently ignoring.
Obama care is starting
I believe like a lot of you, this is the beginning of our soon to be Healthcare Reform. Do you really think they (the Gov.) cares about you? Don't be so naive, They just want total control.
less care at more cost = Obamacare
are you working for the GOP, the recommendations were from an independent panel appointed by Bush. This is bad for the Dems because ? you also mislead on who is to balme for the recession 52% blame the GOP and that is also bad for Dems, huh
If Obamacare had already been passed this panel's recommendation would mean that these exams would not be covered. This is exactly what will happen with Obamacare. We all know the cost will sprial out of control 3 to 5 times current estimates at which point the Government will be desperate and life saving healthcare, especially for the very sick and elderly, will be rationed an denied. Call your Congressman and Senator if they are a Democrat to ask them to stop the madness, or plan on the Government deciding whether you live or die!!!!
This is the same government panel that the Democratic Healthcare reform bill gives the power to make medical decisions for us. This panel is a mess. We want reform, but no government panels, no government healthcare, no government/public option. We need to stop the Democrats before they destroy our healthcare system.
don't be foolish............this is a strong indication of what Obama care means for all of us. How's that change working for ya?
I can solve this for all concerned women. Free exams at my house, no insurance necessary. The 'free' market at work.
Anyone who doesn't believe that the only way a government run health care program will reduce costs is by rationing is kidding themselves. It's already happpening in the other countries that are using this socialist model. People need to start paying attention to what's going on. Fortunately, they are beining to do just that.
The anger is getting tiresome people.
It is irresponsible of CNN to draw potential election conclusions from women's opinions about mammograms and to generalize the disagreement to fears about creating health insurance limits. This type of journalism is exactly the kind of news we heard under the Bush administration; reporting designed to blur the issues and create fear and unrest. Please be as good as you can be CNN and leave the fear mongering to FOX. They do it better than you do.
This Is how they want to lower the cost of health care. By cutting the advanced screening they can lower cost. They can also cause many women to die young because it was cheaper to turn a blind eye. This panel is not making rules just suggestions but i bet that the reason they are making this suggestion Is because they are under pressure form the obama admin to find ways to cut the cost of health care.
we have said it over and over again Obama has mad etoo many promises to get the election that he cant keep and the DEM are not lookin gto work with the american people but instead dictate to us.. ho wmany times do they have to show their incompitence before we stop this madness. how can this country provide health plans when spouses have a hard time chosing the few options thier work provides.. they cant or at least they cant rush it like they are.. Why are they rushing it, why arent they taking th ebusiness approach and rolling it out slowly.. cover the poor, elderly, kids and single parents first and see how it goes.. otehrwise get ready for the government to tell you how and when you need treatment.
Cancer takes everything away, your dignity, your independence, your optimism, your smile, and your life. Men who are in favor of this, beware, prostate screening will be next, and that is a killer for you as well. Until and unless anyone of you have watched a love one die from cancer, and in particular watched your daughter die from cancer, you have no idea what you are talking about. Cancer is like being run over by a Mack truck; you do not know how it feels until you have experienced it. Even though you appear to be getting on with your life, the fear is always there, that fear is when it will come back. Yes, we need healthcare reform, but not on the backs of our young women, our daughters, our friends.
Women we don't see anything about men and the PSA test for the prostate of course not. Too many women in this country so lets get rid a few of them by death. But the men will be protected. Women wake up and quit being led by stupid men. I don't understand how some women think only men know the answers to anything.
"Did you ever notice that men invented mammogram machines that smash women's breasts and blast them with radiation? But then, did you ever wonder why there are no machines that smash men's testicles (and other junk) and blast the whole package with radiation while calling it "early detection?" Why do male surgeons recommend "preventive mastectomies" but never "preventive castration?" Seriously. Think about it..." ~ Mike Adams
All one can say, is that the women who agree with the recommendations have either never had cancer nor had a friend or relative who found their own lump only to have it ultimately diagnosed as malignant. If you haven't been there, then keep your complaints to yourself.
"...unfortunately ruining my country."
Keep it. If we have to go by your way of life you can have your incredibly dull country where everyone's the same and we all think alike on every issue.
You see, that's where you lose most Americans, when you say you've lost "your" country. What about the rest of America? Country first or yet another cry-baby from the "me first" generation of Reagan politics?
Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi just plain SUCK!
Maybe we should just HOPE we don't get cancer
Would it not be more terrible if women diagnosed with this cancer does not have health insurance...think about it....where can they
turn to...the Republicans...the Catholic Church or just wait and die...
Statistical datafor those of you who think this is a good idea.
1.3 Million women worldwide will be diagnosed with breast cancer this year. 465,000 will Die of this disease.
While the US rates have risen in the last decade, deaths have declined due to Early Detection. Countries such as Japan, England, Singapore, etc share our survival rates. 3rd world countries report the highest rate of deaths...due to lack of detection and/or care.
In their Lifetime 1 in 8 women will contract breast cancer....but I guess that 1 in 8 will not be you or your loved one. 40,910 women died in the US of Breast Cancer in 2007...without early detection that number could double or triple matching the standards of 3rd world countries.....Russian Roulette with women's health...and so many are so quick to line up....Educate yourself!
It is really amazing to me that because of these recommendations which are made all the time are being blamed on the new president. Women by now should be able to figure out for themselves if they should have mammograms or not. I mean does the president have to tell you to go to the doctor if you are sick. Get a grip people. It is only a recommendation. Gheez!!!
This panel was empanelled by the Bush Administration (not by the Obama Administration) and is/was comprised of ignorant, calloused, cold-hearted conservatives and members of the GOP who live in the Dark Ages who are against citizens of the United States of America's 14th Amendment Rights and who do not want national health care. Representative Alan Grayson (D-FL) was correct, stating that Republicans want Americans to die of neglect.
My question is..why did this report come out at this time particular time? What was the impetus for that..Could it have someting to do with shedding a bad light on Health Insurnace Reform..I hope not, because that would be diservice to the people, and just adding more fuel to the already mis-conceptions that have been put forth by others who apparently have only one motive which is to kill health reform
If CNN were a real news organization, one of their reporters and/or columnists would...I don't know...live on the wild side and ask a question like, "So, Secretary Selibus, in what percentage of cases do current Medicaid and Medicare benefits align with the task force's recommendations versus the percentage that diverges from their recommendations?" A question any amateur would think to ask. Like I said, go crazy and do what you spent 4/6/8 years in college learning to do, because I guarantee that it is almost 100% aligned to what the task force recommends. Of course, that assumes that what you learned in college was not, "Above all else, don't make a liberal look bad.".
CNN when you printed this why did you omit telling the American Public (woman) the complete story?
Who submitted this ?
Who put this panel togather?
Date panel was started ?
Who is on this panel and gender?
How long each person has been on this panel?
It doesn't matter what you women want.............The Government has the final say in what you do with your body and how you do it.......At least according to the right-wing wacko's, that's how it should be! NOW SHUT UP AND GET BACK IN LINE!!!!!!!
How come mamograms are out and viagra is in? Dirty old men. Oh, I mean politicians.