We need a public option. Otherwise, nothing will change. All the time spent on reforming health care will be wasted as the changes will not be dramatic enough to make a difference to all the people who require health care. I do hope Nancy Pelosi doesn't back down and insists on a public option. It's the only thing that will bring down costs for people across the board. The Democrats had more votes in Congress that the Obstructionist Party. They ought to use them. These blue dog Dems. are getting on my nerves. I hope they get voted out by their constituents for a more progressive candidate. The Rethugs are on the ropes for 2010. They should all be thrown out since they don't want America's standard of living to improve one iota. Evidently, they are all too well off to care about the middle or working class.
What is all this I keep hearing about no healthcare for ill eagles???? The eagle is the symbol of our country and when one gets sick we should try to help it. I watch those nature shows with my grandbabies and every time an eagle comes on, I feel proud to be a real American and not a narcisstic obamabot or Oprah watching union thug!!!! Have a nice day!
The RUSH/PALIN/BECK/FOX/PUBLICANS, the lobbyists, the insurance and drug cartels won... the people lost!
It is almost funny that so many, apparently uneducated lefties, are blaming the Republicans for this MASSIVE FAILURE of a bill. The Dems have 60 votes in the Senate. Luckily for the country they are not marching in lockstep with the wicked witch Pelosi. You do realize the bill just barely passed the House, right? The Dems said it would bend the cost curve down. WRONG. It would not raise taxes. WRONG. It would provide health insurance to all Americas. WRONG (Missed 23 million out of the 35 million). If this wasn't so tragic and embarrassing to my country it would actually be funny. Ask yourself this, would you go out and buy a car, pay for it for FOUR YEARS and then get it drive it after the 4 years? No? That's what these scammers on the left are pushing on Americans.
"Doing nothing would be a better option then anything the Libs have put on the table"
Doing nothing means that about 45,000 more people will die next year because they aren't working so they can't afford health insurance or they get kicked out of their health insurance because of pre-existing conditions or because they work for a small employer who doesn't provide a health insurance plan with their job. So it's ok with you that Americans die for these reasons? The "libs" as you call us are really just Americans who CARE about other Americans dying! Obviously you can't relate.
Excuse my poor typing, but get the point! Competition must create further markets! Cooperation offers what we desperately need. This is the fundamental flaw of UNREGULATED Capitalism. Thanks and they threw America Out with the bathwater!
By the time our spineless congressmen get done with health care reform we'll be no better off than we are now.
But I bet they all get real nice christmas gifts from insurance lobbyists.
Most Americans want public option. Reprepsentatives bringing in their rich kids to the House is just a ploy. Most Americans need help paying bills. They better make sure that cancer patients' monies are not taken away after a certain amount of money is spent either!
I am sure they have plenty of money for wars though. That's what the republikans are all about.
"When the 1300 insurance companies are all legally colluding with each other to fix prices, then yeah, adding a government run program will provide competition"
Oh...THAT'S HOW IT WORKS? All the insurance companies are in it together. I had no idea....I thought BCBS and UHC were trying to compete with one another for business. You know, sell their premiums to customers before the other?
Hey Ben in Texas.........Go sell crazy somewhere else. Medicare doesn’t compete but it is broke.
Now let me get this straight– people opposing this as socialism don't mind paying higher premium whenever the insurance company can figure out another way to raise profits. You same people probalby have not paid attention to how "all of sudden" the insurance industry can come up with a plan to lower health care cost ONLY after this reform effort came to the floor.
No wonder their are TV shows like "are you smarter than a fifth grader" It stinks when big insurance execs can laugh about feeding the american public anything and knowing they will take it.
This was all done by Democrats. Not enough Republicans in the Senate to make a differnce. Don't blame this on Republicans.
mjm – If you'll check, you'll find that health insurance companies are exempt from anti-trust laws, so they can legally fix rates for premiums.
Do you think they don't? Do you maybe work for one, or why do you think they're so great? Most of us know that they are the major reason for high costs in the American health care system.
I think this is a sneaky way to get this bill passed. You know, one way or another, they're going to sneak in a public option, either thru expansion of medicare or a trigger. Don't trust them to do the right thing. They never do.
"....I thought BCBS and UHC were trying to compete with one another for business."
They don't have to: the antitrust laws like the Clayton Act are inapplicable to them. Sorry for pointing out that your ideological rant was baseless, but that's the rub.
The democrats have 58 votes in the senate. However, in a democracy, it should only take 50 votes with the vice president breaking the tie. Too bad that the senate is dysfunctional and does not represent a body of our democracy.
I think we can all agree with Ben in Texas.
Truly sad, the one and only chance and probably the last chance to regain some control over your health Care and the nation folds to the privite health insurance providers. They say there is one born every minute but in this case it looks like there is a whole nation of fools. Without the pubic option you have nothing.
I don't understand why no one wants competition for the insurance companies. Are we all brain dead? And for all those posters saying national health care is socialist, tell me that again when you get to be 62 and start receiving social security and medicare.
Marie MD: "Most Americans want public option."
Would love to see a link to that poll you are looking at. Since you couldn't be more WRONG, I am guessing you are just repeating the lies from the loony left. But I am here to help you.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 51% oppose the plan. And as has been the case for months, the emotion’s on the sign of the naysayers: 40% Strongly Oppose the plan, while just 23% Strongly favor it.
WSJ: Opponents of ObamaCare will be aided by polls showing that it is even less popular than HillaryCare was a year into the Clinton presidency. Back in December 1993, Gallup found that 47% of voters backed HillaryCare, with 32% opposed. Today, an average of health-care surveys at Pollster.com shows support for ObamaCare at 38.8%, with 51.4% against.
@ sea.gem – 4:06
You knock some of the posters for not having an education. Obviously, you are not educated, as evidenced by your grammer and spelling. Please think before you write.
They are desperate to pass something, anything, so they can stand on the podium and pat themselves on the back and smile for the cameras. They could care less about you libs and your the goverment owes me something agenda.
Socialism, Communism, Marxism, call it what you want but it beats the hell out of bankruptcy, homelessness and hunger caused by unpaid hospital and Doctor bills. The police force, firefighters and your famous military are all public funded (socialistic) institutions using the definition in some comments. Free enterprise sure isn't free and money paid to the private health insurance companies is like playing Russian roulette, the out come might just kill you.
Pelosi....what good are you?
and to whom?
you are a leftover from a failed admin. a failed time in American history by an inept Congress.
Please Reign, lets get someone in their whose for the Peope, not just someone who speaks to them.
(PS. will be happy to see you indicted along with the rest when the time comes. Its in the whirlwind Pelosi, what you've sewn too, its in there)
Yesterday, Speaker Pelosi signaled at a press conference that she was prepared to accept the stunning defeat of Democrats – who have failed the American people – in next November’s midterm elections.
Hopefully, she's reconsidered and will fight the latest bs being proposed in the Senate. It's immoral and really bad for Democrats politically.
Speaker Pelosi, do what's right!
When with the dems get it through their tiny brains that the American public doesn't want government-run health care??? Just say "no" to AMSOC!
At least we can take solace in the knowledge that Harry Reid will be out of office and Pelosi will no longer be speaker come 2010.